i hope we continue to see more protests within the US military. i see a lot of leftists and folks who are anti-military who have such an open disdain for the people who are in the military, yet neglect to considering the conditions this country makes to produce ideology, poverty, and the illusion of choice to make all kinds of people choose to enlist in the military. You ever see those videos of ROTC kids recording each other asking why they joined the military and everyone's like, "healthcare", "it helped me go to college", "I was bored" or "free ptsd lol". I hate to remind everyone but folks who are in the military are people, too, and they are the same victims and perpetrators of violence as the rest of you, we have all been shallowly conditioned to view each other as enemies just because one person is wearing army greens and the other is not.
some of the biggest anti-war advocates are those who engaged in war. Veterans who genuinely believed they were protecting the US against "terrorism" come back with blood on their hands, and they choose to realize that it was US imperialism that forced them to carry out violence, instead of doubling down and shielding themselves from the fact that they too are capable of atrocities... This is a class of people who are intentionally conditioned to be as poor and as ideologically aligned to US imperialism so that the military has a never-ending pool to send their youth to destroy other country's youth. The only people I have ever heard say "do not join the military" are those who ARE military.
This is in no way to ever excuse or explain away any of the atrocious war crimes and violence this industry and its people have committed against others. What I am saying is that we absolutely cannot cast aside the individuals who have been victimized within US imperialism, even if they are wearing army greens. I was speaking with my Palestinian classmate last week and another classmate--a member of the US air force-- walked up to me and struck up a conversation. My military classmate showed me her new bird, bid both of us goodbye, and left. My Palestinian classmate asked me if I was close with her, and I said we talked quite often, and she said, "I never met a person who's in the military. I still hate the military, but I never knew that they did, too. I didn't realize that they were also victims."
If my Palestinian classmate--one who is actively watching her own community die--can understand that it is not individuals who are the problem but it is in fact systems, US imperialism, white supremacy, capitalism...why can't we all? And she has EVERY reason to hate any individual military member. A lot of online activism just creates more barriers. if your optics look bad, complicated, or contradictory, you are cast aside. Everyone has got the be the perfect activist, you can never make a mistake or share a half-baked thought, you should always believe every word from a marginalized persons mouth (because being marginalized doesn't mean you're not entrenched in white supremacy too!) and you should never question what you see...Do you know what you sound like? The very imperialists who are convincing poor whites to vote against themselves. Perfectionism is white supremacy. Black & white thinking is white supremacy.
I'd rather have a military member who genuinely believed in the US imperialism machine but was disillusioned after being deployed as my comrade than some leftist who cherishes the performance of "being a good person". I don't want "good people" in our movements. I want humans who care. I want humans who make mistakes and who learn from them. I want humans who accept the messiness of a person. I want humans who hold others accountable and allow themselves to take responsibility for their actions. I want people who change for themselves and others.
fight systems, not individual people. we can change each other, but if we're too preoccupied looking like the World's Perfect Activists, we will only consume each other alive. Connect to your fellow humans, forever and always.
[Context : Y/N’s friends all escaped and left Y/N to die. But instead of Ghost killing them, he took pitied on them so he takes Y/N back to his house on top of his shop]
Y/N, sitting comfortably on the old couch while watching Ghost gathering woods for the fireplace with warm cup of tea in hand :
Y/N : You allow the world to think you’re a heartless monster.
Y/N, is confused by his nice gesture : And you’re not.
Butcher!Ghost, still dripping with blood and all :
Butcher! Ghost, lifts his eyebrow under the mask :
Butcher! Ghost, chuckles : No. I’m afraid I’m just a regular kind of murderer, sweetheart.
Butcher! Ghost, return with clean clothes and handed some to Y/N : I may be a murderer but I’m not that heartless like your shitty friends eh?
Y/N, silently accepts the clothes : (That sounds so wrong yet right at the same time…)
hi, no worries if you have no idea but i was just wondering if you know whether any other idols have done the paired enlistment thing before? or are jikook the first??
IF this has been done before by other idols, it wasn't talked about much because no one has been able to find it. So I'm thinking Jikook are the first???
We gotta remember other Idols enlist individually when its their time and the groups take a break as they wait for their members to get back. BTS were the first to use this strategy of enlisting at the same time, serve together so they can come back together. I have a feeling this is yet another thing thing more and more groups will emulate. Its smart as hell!
Idk if any other idols have done this before but Jikook are the only ones u will find if u try to look this up.
Can we talk about their numbers for a sec?
I mean, of course JK is the one who applied first for them to serve together. Of course he is!
My precious, wonderful satellite Jeon who doesn't handle separation anxiety very well 🥺🥺🥺 I'm not saying he cannot live without Jimin... but that's exactly what I'm saying....
Jikook probably since the beginning of the year (or after FACE and what JK went thru) knew they wanted to do this together. And when it was granted they went about their projects for the rest or the year knowing they were enlisting together. The fandom hated and hated and hated not knowing Jikook were gonna serve up the biggest "fuck u" of them all when the time came. What a wonderful time to be a Joker
The Vlive was far more helpful than I could have ever imagined. It was like good Medicine for the Heart..... you know?
To see Jiminie and Jungkookie, to see their energy, to hear the laughter, and to bear witness to their bond was all that many of us needed today. And, it is a clear message that they are okay, and that everything will be okay while they do their service in the military.
Good Medicine, indeed. 💜
That innate urge to touch will definitely be something that they will probably continue to have to curb. lol... It's like attempting to control the beat of one's Heart. Not easy to do.
Like many ARMYs, I feel much better at this point, after seeing and hearing them (all 4 of them, actually). Yes, it will be hard to move through the months, while we wait for them to return. Somehow it won't be quite so hard knowing that Jimin and Jungkook will navigate the experience together. How perfect is that?
I'm grateful that they all came together to go live, to say goodbye. It was a typical chaotic yet bittersweet time with them. Some how, it was not nearly as sad as I thought it would be.
We have been blessed. Haven't we?
Yeah...... on the other side of 2025, I do believe that the best is yet to come. 💜
So we all know Eddie wasn't in Afghanistan for five years straight, right? And that there's a base in El Paso that he probably worked at between deployments? And that enlisting/reenlisting didn't guarantee that he'd be deployed repeatedly?
Unpopular Opinion: I don’t want to see Jikook Military Pics
It feels wrong. It feels invasive. It feels dehumanizing to refer to them as two numbers. It feels devastating to see them holding rifles knowing what they are being trained for. I miss them both and all the tannies like actual crazy, but I’d rather not get content like this. Legitimate sources or not, it feels icky. This is not a vacation for them. I’ve been quiet about the “romanticizing the military” because at the time, in the Jikook spaces that I’m in, I wasn’t seeing anyone doing anything but supporting Jimin and Jungkook enlisting together when everyone else was bitter about the buddy system. But now there has been a shift. I should not be seeing photos of them this regularly in basic training of all things. I wish nothing more for them to be healthy and safe, but at this point, I wish for the fandom to settle down and be respectful of their privacy and stop glorifying this awful time for them.
Jimin’s letter! That boy knew just what we needed, didn’t he? “…because Jungkook is next to me”. Oh my heart!!!! 💜
People are getting “confused” by Jimin’s post in regards to his comment about where he will be going next. It’s already been confirmed that he and Jungkook will both be in the same division/unit as Jin…. The 5th Infantry Division. Once their training is over, soldiers are deployed to their assigned Unit, so that’s most likely what Jimin is referring to. We just don’t know what jobs they will be doing once they get to their assigned brigade in the 5th. Regardless, in accordance with the Companion Enlistment, they will be on the same base, living in the same living quarters. Love that for them!
These are my thoughts and opinions. Information is out there if you seek it yourself. Nothing has been confirmed by any of the members or the company.
News media says Korean male citizens Kim Namjoon, Kim Taehyung, Park Jimin and Jeon Jungkook will be enlisting soon: Dec. 11 for the first two and Dec. 12 for the latter pair.
And that Jimin and Jungkook seem to have chosen the companion enlistment option. Yes, "option" because they could have chosen to go in separately.
Koreans who are familiar with how this all works, have tried to explain the process. From what I understand, the companion option allows them to serve their entire enlistment together.
They weren't forced and this wasn't their only option for enlistment. They chose this themselves for a reason, for personal reasons, that none of us can know because we aren't them.
Many speculate but NO ONE KNOWS their reasons!
According to various sources, they will be at the same training center as Jin. There are many groups doing ongoing training there. But I don't believe they will be in the same company that Jin serves as assistant trainer. Credible sources say that Jin's unit at the training center is not accepting recruits on Dec. 12 which is the supposed date that Jimin and Jungkook will enter the military but we don't know for sure. But being at the same training center would allow them to see each other when they have time.
This reunion:
We won't know for sure until it actually happens.
Many are throwing around wild speculation regarding the fact Jimin and Jungkook are the only two with tattoos and therefore had fewer options. But they aren't. All the members have tattoos now. The Korean military needs all the manpower they can get, they aren't excluding men with tattoos, they are just limiting the situations they can serve.
The options are limited (and only slightly) for them because very visible tattoos, especially on the arms and hands, would allow them to be identified too easily. This is a consideration and criteria that is regulated in militaries and law enforcement around the world and is not isolated to Korea. Criminals are identified by their tattoos. Military personnel can also be identified by visible tattoos. In a situation where it is imperative that enlisted remain anonymous, hand tattoos would be a dead giveaway for identification. I'm sure there are other reasons for no tattoos allowed in certain assignments.
The application process began months ago and is the same process all Korean male citizens would go through to be approved for the companion program.
No one is really discussing Tae and Namjoon, everyone is going batshit crazy over Jimin and Jungkook. Let them do their service in the manner they wish. None of you have any say-so in it so shut up.
No one is capable of or even wants to step back and consider the big picture which is more telling.
Regarding Tae and Namjoon, I would venture to say that after basic training, its possible Namjoon will serve in some capacity with the Defense Ministry's Agency for KIA Recovery & Identification which he was named ambassador for earlier this year. That office is located in Seoul I believe. The fact he is well-known publicly and he can speak English would enhance his success in an assignment of this sort. This agency recovers those who lost their lives in action during the Korean War in which American soldiers also perished.
Recovering those KIA happens near or in the DMZ.
IF the hearsay about where Jimin and Jungkook might be assigned after training has any truth, they are supposedly headed to this area as they also perform minesweeping when searching for KIA remains. Again, none of this is confirmed, I am just employing critical thinking...
Tae supposedly has chosen the Special Task Force of the Army's Capital Defense Command. That seems like it implies he'll remain within Seoul during his enlistment.
It's all speculation, but I think these men carefully considered their options and the ramifications. None of this was done on a whim, from Namjoon's ambassadorship and the possibilities of it, to Jimin and Jungkook's companion enlistment and why they chose that option, NONE OF IT WAS DONE WITHOUT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION. They had to apply MONTHS ago for the options they were allowed to choose. They are not the only men in Korea enlisting this year, there are tens of thousands of others.
No one is considering, IF Namjoon is in Seoul during his enlistment, he would have something in common with Tae. And Yoongi. And Jin will be discharged in June, Hobi will be discharged in October... the implications, the connections... their target is 2025. Nothing is a coincidence. They can't be working while enlisted, however reuniting briefly with friends over dinner and drinks is allowed... what they talk about during their get togethers is none of our business.
ALL THAT BEING SAID... Hybe did a tremendous job this past summer with the 10th anniversary Festa celebration, involving various municipality governments, procuring large corporate sponsors and communicating to news media in the almost month long series of events. They elevated the general public's awareness of BTS's impact and therefore instilled value and pride for their continued success.
No military commander would want anything to happen to the members while under their watch.
NOTHING IS A COINCIDENCE.
P.S.: The idiots sending in emails to the Defense Ministry are hurting EVERYONE. The level of lunacy knows no bounds with certain people. They suffer from a pathological psychosis. Don't engage, don't acknowledge.