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#the only thing he figured out was that Ahsoka was the Jedi who was coming but he only gets partial credit bc the Nightmothers tipped him of
slyandthefamilybook · 9 months
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me this whole episode
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nateofgreat · 1 month
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The Jedi were completely justified in in the Wrong Jedi Arc (Part 1)
You know what, let's take a look at the Jedi interrogation of Ahsoka. Which was so bad that it both justifies Ahsoka's belief that the Order deserved what they got and so traumatic that we (according to Ahsoka fans) shouldn't be surprised that it wiped out her personality for around 30 years.
Let's start with "The Jedi who knew too much" since that's where Ahsoka was first suspected. Now let's look at the case against Ahsoka so far...
-She was seen angrily ranting about wanting Leeta to "pay" for bombing the Temple and was outraged that the military took custody of her because she wanted the Jedi to punish her. She's so angry she even starts questioning the Chancellor straight to the face of an Admiral.
-She's invited to speak to Leeta on her request only for Leeta to end up dead by a Force choke.
-Ahsoka was later found outside her cell, armed with her confiscated weapons. When the guard (quite logically) sounds the alarm, Ahsoka flees right into the path of three dead clones. Fox assumes (again, logically) that she killed them.
-She shouts that she was being set up to Anakin who says he believes her and asks her to come down so they can figure things out, but Ahsoka flees and resists arrest instead.
In response to this, the Jedi Council are understandably suspicious. However, their response was to deploy two teams to capture her alive.
Led by Anakin Skywalker and Plo Koon. AKA the two who most believed in her innocence.
That is an insanely compassionate act on their part. To entrust the mission to the very people who believe in her innocence and who'd do everything they could to bring her in safely.
Also everyone blames Fox for assuming she killed the three dead clones she was standing over but forget that Rex called an alert saying "She killed three clones" causing security to freak out and try to blow her away with a cannon.
If at any point Ahsoka had just stopped or stayed in her cell the frame job would've likely been discovered but she picked the worst possible combination of choices. Great job Ahsoka!
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david-talks-sw · 11 months
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The series Ahsoka is coming out soon, and in light of the recent comments by Ashley Eckstein...
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... I figured I'd also point out that people hated Ahsoka.
Every complaint you've heard about Rey? It had been hurled at Ahsoka about 7 years prior.
“Oh, she’s fighting Grievous and she’s only, like 13?! That’s so OP!”
“She feels like a Mary Sue written for a prequel based fan fiction.”
“Oh, she disobeyed an order from Yularen on Ryloth?! She’s so snippy!”
“Ugh, I hate her and her stupid voice!”
“She’s always pointing out stuff other characters have missed, like she’s so perfect! She's a Mary Sue with an annoying voice and personality.”
And honestly? I remember that period. People despised Ahsoka (and sometimes voiced anger towards Ashley Eckstein too), just like they hated Hayden Christensen, and most Prequel-related content.
But guess what? They weren't the target audience. Said Eckstein in her 2018 book It's Your Universe:
“Ahsoka’s arrival on the scene was met with mixed reactions. She had a big personality and was very snippy. [...] She talked back to Anakin, and some even called her bratty. Critics didn’t quite know what to think, but kids loved her. Finally, girls had another character besides Leia and Padmé to play on the playground — and now there was a lightsaber in their hands.”
They didn't "fix" Ahsoka, as you'll see on some click-baity YouTube thumbnails.
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She had a fucking character arc. There was nothing to fix.
The whole point of her character is that she starts out as immature and petulant as Anakin is in Episode II. This forces Anakin himself to grow up, so he can better take care of her.
Eventually, they both mature together... and at some point, Ahsoka surpasses Anakin by learning and implementing the Jedi teachings, while Anakin remains stuck on that first part (no thanks to Palpatine).
Same thing goes for Reva. The character has a goddamn arc.
I'm all for putting a "save the cat" moment to make these characters more likeable (and even when they do, like they did with Rey, then somehow the problem becomes that they're too likeable), but at the same time, I think parts of the fandom should wait and see before prematurely hating on a character (who almost always "just happens" to be female, weird!) to see what story is being told.
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sailforvalinor · 9 months
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A quick analysis of why Ezra and Thrawn are each other’s perfect nemesis (especially for those who aren’t as familiar with Rebels):
The reason that Thrawn is so dangerous is, of course, not just because of his analytical mind or brilliant battle tactics, but because he takes the time to know his enemy. He understands what all art historians or anyone in the liberal arts can tell you: that art is one of the clearest windows into a society, and studying a society’s art can tell you just as much, if not more than a history book can. Thrawn always takes the time to throughly understand his enemy before he fights them, and that includes the Jedi Ezra Bridger.
The problem is, however, that Ezra is not a typical Jedi. It stands to reason that what Thrawn knows about the Jedi comes from the Jedi Generals in the Clone Wars, who abided by very standard military tactics—and to a point, having fought in the Clone Wars, Kanan Jarrus, Ezra’s master, often used those tactics, and passed some of them on to Ezra. However, since he primarily fought in a small rebel cell, Ezra was primarily a guerrilla fighter. Even when they went on to join the larger Rebellion, Kanan and Ezra often avoided their larger full-scale battles in favor of smaller ops that catered to their talents, only joining large battles when it was absolutely necessary to turn the tables. And though he was a commander, it was actually fairly rare that he led troops into battle like the Jedi generals in the Clone Wars.
Additionally, while early on in his arc he shares some similarities with Anakin and Luke (especially in his struggle to figure out how to protects those he loves without falling to the Dark Side), it becomes apparent by the end of Rebels that he is on the path to becoming a Jedi like Qui-Gon Jinn or Yoda—that is, a Jedi very in-tune with the Living Force. Though he possesses many of the more physical talents we associate with the Jedi—heightened senses, strengthened physical abilities, skill with a lightsaber, etc—his talents have always tended towards the more cerebral (e.g., he was receiving extremely vivid visions of the future while struggling just to levitate an object). One really interesting thing about Rebels is that it often chooses to represent the presence of the Force with a high-pitched whistling sound, one that Ezra quite often seems to hear and let guide his decisions. He is also very prone to receiving extremely vivid Force visions. But the ability he is most known for, especially in Ahsoka, is his ability to connect to living beings. If you were wondering why such a deal is made over the Loth-Cat in episode one, it’s because Loth-Cats have become somewhat of a motif for Ezra, just like the purrgil—they seem to be always around him in Rebels, and serve as a sort of barometer to the audience as to how strong Ezra’s Force abilities are. In season one, they would just pop out and hiss at him every once in awhile, but by season four, they’re all over him—if he stood out in a field and held still for too long he’d just be buried in cats. The same goes for other creatures—he befriends the purrgil early on in the show, and is able to enlist their help in the finale. He’s also so in-tune with the Living Force on his home planet of Lothal that he is approached by Loth-Wolves, mysterious, spiritual beings who weren’t thought to exist outside the realm of myth, and shown a way to use a hyperspace corridor to travel to the other side of the planet.
However, this ability doesn’t just extend to animals—it extends to people, too. It’s like someone poured everything into his charisma stat. He makes friends everywhere he goes, so easily it’s like breathing, and people naturally gravitate towards him and want to help him. (It’s probably why he has made such good friends with those adorable rock people—he just can’t help being forcibly adopted wherever he goes.) The reason he is able to beat Thrawn in the end of Rebels is that he calls in every single favor from all the people he recruited to his side throughout the past four seasons, and when you see everyone on screen—former Imperial cadets, smugglers, deposed military leaders, space wolves, space whales, Clones, etc—it’s then that you realize just what an inspiring leader he is. If Ezra can get Hondo Onaka of all people to join Rebellion, you know he’s got something special.
Not to mention, since Ezra has spoken to and been indirectly trained by a Force being (the Bendu) and was the first on-screen Jedi to discover the World Between Worlds, it’s quite possible that he understands the Living Force better, or at least in a very different way, than most Jedi within the Order did.
To sum it all up, Ezra is just so different, so unconventional, both as a military leader and as a Jedi, that Thrawn, for all his military prowess, doesn’t know what to do with him. He is absolutely unpredictable, because he always abides by the will of the Force, something Thrawn is completely unable to get access to or understand. I always think of them when I see this meme:
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because it’s almost quite literally what happens in the Rebels finale. Thrawn has pulled off a seemingly infallible maneuver, the Rebels are completely pinned-down, their resources are maxed-out, and he knows they will not risk the deaths of civilians. Ezra gives himself up, and he thinks he’s won. But then what does Ezra do? He summons a flock of purrgil who drag him, along with his entire Star Destroyer, into hyperspace and jump to another galaxy. How on earth could Thrawn have even predicted that? And even if he had known Ezra’s plan, what could he have even done?
That’s why Thrawn is so eager to kill Ezra in Ahsoka. Something tells me that he’s been hunting him in these ten years we haven’t seen them—because he knows that this one man is far more dangerous than anything waiting for him in the galaxy he is preparing to invade.
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fanfic-obsessed · 1 year
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Well Technically...
It is not often that I get an idea that includes Vader (with the genocide and horror that is implied) that makes me giggle.  This however made me giggle. 
So Vader returns to the light right before he dies and comes back as Anakin the Force ghost.  Now despite what it appears this is not a kindness.  Anakin spends decades following his kids and the galaxy at large watching how little his existence mattered (galactically Anakin Skywalker was barely more than a recognizable name, and even that was diminishing as the people who knew of the ‘hero without fear’ died off; Vader would be forgotten even more quickly because no one wanted to remember him) even as he saw the long term consequences of his life (Luke’s struggle with his own identity-both as a man and a Jedi-, Leia’s struggle with her ancestry-finding out that your blood father killed all your other available parents was not a good feeling, Reva healing from the trauma he directly caused, all the ways that Ahsoka had to reshape her own soul to patch the holes Anakin put there, the echoes of the clones that died at his hand and command and the horror of the ones that survived). He has to watch his grandson not only make his mistakes but somehow make them worse, which was something that he did not know was possible. We get all the way through the the sequels, with a heavy emphasis on Anakin watching how the consequences of his actions (particularly the slaughter of the Jedi but many of the the things he did both during the empire and during the war) while acknowledging that he is not even remembered enough to be cursed, how the galaxy has spun on, not just without him but in spite of him and he is not even a footnote. 
After Palpatine’s final, for now, death, Anakin is approached (for lack of a better term) by something shaped like Obi Wan Kenobi, circa the beginning of the clone wars. When this being speaks, it speaks with two voices at once, the Daughter and the Son. It asks if he could go back to before his Fall and change things, would he.
Anakin is sure he would, there are so many things he would do differently. 
The being says that it can send him back to just before his tipping point, where his Fall and all the evil he did became inevitable, but cannot send him back further than that.  Anakin agrees. Just before he sent back the being tells him that should his Fall become inevitable again, they would shred his mind and soul and it would be more excruciating than any pain he had ever experienced. 
Anakin, who had spent 20 years in agony, now had one(1) fear. 
Anakin “closed” his eyes in the Force, wondering when he would be sent back to (Killing Padme, Marching on the Temple, Believing Palpatine over Fives) only to open his eyes as his mother took her last breath. He was back on Tatooine, in the Tusken camp. 
Anakin was confused, this was the point of no return? He had not even thought about the Tusken camp in decades, had not truly considered them at all since Padme absolved him of their slaughter.
But this was also an Anakin that had spent decades in pain, and then decades observing. He was much more patient, by necessity if  not choice, less likely to act on violent impulse then the last time. Also the majority of his rage died in a cloud of lightning with the Emperor.  Instead of killing the Tuskens in a rage, he wept over his mother’s body in the grief he denied himself the first time. The reaction surprises the Tuskens so much (due both to the nature of Tatooine and the animosity between them and the moisture farmers they had not seen human tears of grief before) that they let Anakin take the body and leave. 
They still bury Shmi and go to rescue Obi Wan (though it does not end in a marriage this time). The War still starts but Anakin is also running around trying to fix things, including himself (and actually doing all the actual emotional work on figuring out and fixing his own issues), meditating (Frankly Obi Wan is starting to be concerned that anakin is possessed), trying to not kill anyone (because he really isn't sure what the tipping point about the Tuskens was and does not want to risk it), get the chips discovered in such a way that they do not tip off the Sith (He brings a few clones, including Fives to the temple to Spar and 'accidentally' hits Fives hard enough to knock him out and pracitcally forces Master Che do a deep enough scan), make a list of the people he killed to try and do something nice for them. At some point he decides his ‘penance’ for his life as Vader was that he would somehow bring all the currently known Sith back to the Light (including Palpatine).
In the Force, the Daughter is watching all this, her head in her hand repeating over and over ‘The point of no return was murdering children, you moron. All you have to do is not murder children’. And everything he is doing works towards that goal, but she doesn’t expect him to fix the universe (in my head it is a bit akin to asking someone to tell you an equation that use 2 and equals 4, expecting 2+2 or 2*2 but instead them confidently saying((2xSqRt(100))-40+36)/4)
The Son is watching this all with Force popcorn, this is the most entertaining thing to happen in ages. 
It is important to note that the Dark in this does not mean Evil. It means selfish, which is not the same thing.  You can be a selfish dick and still not be evil.  Mostly in this case it means that for those that inhabit the dark their priority is 1)Their own wants and needs; 2)The needs of the people they like, as long as it doesn’t inconvenience them; 3) The wants or needs of others if it benefits them in some way.  The Son was bored by what the Empire did to the Force, and he found having the Light there (and everything Anakin was doing) entertaining. 
I just keep picturing the Daughter, in the Force, exasperated with Anakin because, yes everything he is doing is good for him and the galaxy but his ONLY job is ‘don’t murder children’ and it never even occurs to Anakin that that was the only act he needed to avoid. 
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antianakin · 2 months
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This is a random thought I just had, but for the people that say Anakin’s special training is how Ahsoka survived order 66, couldn’t you also argue that the same training taught his soldiers ( the same ones that would storm the temple with him ) how to kill Jedi more effectively?
I think that, in part, that's supposed to be the ironic tragedy of that entire episode. Anakin's special training helps Ahsoka survive, but it's also (theoretically) giving those specific clones a lot of training on how to take down a Jedi. Anakin's training helps Ahsoka as much as it puts her in danger. Anakin is by nature sort-of contradictory in a lot of his relationships because these people love him and he betrays them all, and their feelings about him in the aftermath all have to sort-of deal with that contradiction. How do you love someone who betrayed you like that, and what does it say about you if you do?
That being said, it doesn't take a hell of a lot to take out a Jedi when the Jedi in question is unable to try to escape or take them out in return somehow. Ahsoka in reality does a lot of running and jumping into vents and knocking some of the clones out and closing doors with the Force to keep some of the clones from surrounding her. She's RESOURCEFUL. She's never just standing still while surrounding and only able to block for longer than like 5 seconds. MAYBE 10. And even then, she's still closing the doors and ultimately jumps away into a vent. So the whole thing where she can withstand a barrage of stun bolts for 5 minutes is just ludicrous, it's not actually USEFUL and we know this because she DOESN'T FUCKING USE IT.
So while the training MIGHT help the clones figure out how to overwhelm a Jedi better, it's also only useful to them when the Jedi can't really do anything to really defend themselves and get away from the situation, which is what MOST Jedi in that situation WOULD do.
We also know via Order 66 that what actually takes out the Jedi isn't an inability to block for five minutes straight, but being suddenly and unexpectedly surrounded by people you trust who suddenly want you dead. It takes the Jedi a few seconds to even REACT to that revelation and in those few seconds, they die. Ahsoka is COMPLETELY prepared in this training, she's not dealing with any kind of emotional turmoil while doing it, so her ability to do well in this isn't actually indicative of how well she'd do in a situation like Order 66. The ONLY real thing that saves her is that Rex hesitates, so she GETS those few seconds to comprehend what's happening and come up with a course of action to protect herself that NO ONE ELSE GETS. If Rex hadn't hesitated, Ahsoka would be dead. The sudden betrayal of people she trusted who overwhelm and surround her would've killed her without question. Anakin's training would've been useless for her. And the clones would not have NEEDED any special training to overwhelm and surround her, they already DID by just being there with her.
So while I think the POINT of the episode is that yes, there's an inherent tragedy in this training being what helps her survive AND something that probably makes it HARDER for her survive Anakin's eventual betrayal, I don't think the training is useful for anybody quite honestly. It's just stupid and pointless all around and Ahsoka and the clones all had better things to do with their time than this.
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echo-lover · 10 months
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Hello there!
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A few of my favorite Star Wars headcanons about clones
• Parental instinct
I've noticed that some clones have a highly developed paternal instinct.
I think Cut with his little family is not only one.
Hunter showed concern for childrens safety from the very beginning, like Kaleb and Gungi (surviving Wookie Jedi). He looks after Omega like his own daughter, as do the rest of the Bad Batch. Hunter definitely plays the role od father in his team as a responsible and a little overprotective leader.
Echo is the most mature in my opinion and in my eyes he will always be a mommy.
Waxer immediately felt the need to care for the newly met child and had no problem with hugging or comforting little Numa when she started crying. I just know that he loved children and secretly dreamed of starting a family, but he put himself entirely at being a soldier and protecting those who can not protect themselves.
Even Boil had grown strong bond owith Numa after some time and wanted to protect her at all costs.
I think Rex would also make a great father figure. He felt a strong need to take care of others. He acted as a mentor or an older brother for Ahsoka, and when he met Omega, he immediately got in touch with her. It's worth mentioning how he immediately stood between her and Bad Batch when he found out that the boys hadn't removed their chips yet. He remembered perfectly well what happened during Order 66. I'm sure he felt guilty that he had almost executed his longtime friend who trusted him with all her heart. He also felt responsible for his brothers who died in this tragic event.
I think this paternal instinct comes straight from Jango Fett's genes, who cared for Boba and loved him, and adopt him as his son. Jango asked specifily for him and knew from the very beggining that he want to adopt this kid. The Mandalorian culture is known for being easily attached to children, and they often decided to adopt kids, as fathers and mothers, and raise them like their own.
• Overprotective Hunter
Hunter is, in my opinion, the most sensitive and emotionally mature of the Bad Batch. He can read the feelings of others, especially those closest to him, so he always knew when something was wrong. Perhaps his enhanced senses have something to do with this.
He also has a tendency to be overprotective.
As a leader, he put the good of the squad before his own. I'm sure that running and hiding from the Empire, the constant pressure on his shoulders, was very tiring for him.
Hunter tried to protect Omega and his brothers the best way he could. That's why, the loss of any member of his family was a hard shoot in the heart for him. He sees it as a personal failure, as he failed his loved ones. He may start to think that Crosshair's words as true, that maybe he shouldn't be the leader, but he hasn't told anyone about his feelings and his own doubts.
But I think Echo knew... Echo knew that Hunter was worried and tired of the constant responsibility.
• Hunter and his senses
Hunter is a synesthete. This means that what he feels with one of his senses also affects the others. For example: he sees sounds, he can taste colors or numbers have colors for him. His synesthesia is a side effect of his enhanced senses.
Due to his heightened senses, Hunter also felt pain more intense than the other clones.
I still remember the moment Omega snuggled up to him after rescuing her when she was kidnapped by Cad Bane. Hunter winced in pain for a moment as his chest wound still was fresh. He had been shot with a blaster and almost get himself k!lled, and yet the most important thing to him was Omega. He ignored his own discomfort and focused fully on Omega, making sure nothing happened to his little girl. The expression of pain quickly turned into relief.
• Family
Some time after Omega joined the Bad Batch, they agreed on the role of family members:
Omega is their little sister, of course Hunter play the role of a father, while Echo is hailed as a mother. Our grumpy little bean muttered something about this being stupid idea at first, but in the end he liked being called mommy Echo.
Echo is a great addition to this crazy squad. He is the most experienced and can keep his family in line. It will never stop to amaze me how much good and love is hidden in the heart of a man who has never known a moment of comfort in his life and to whom no one has ever shown love. His physical and mental health were very bad after the events at Skako Minor. There was almost nothing left of the inexperienced Reg from the 501st Legion. Despite this, he will always remain my favorite character in all of Star Wars universe.
Wrecker is basically a second baby and needs to be looked after more than Omega, because if you let him out of your sight for a moment, he'll probably make a big mess.
Wrecker had the mind of a child trapped in the body of a large man. He is strong and could cause fear, but he have a soft heart. He cared for those closest to him, especially Omega. When his little sister was having a bad day and was sad, Wrecker was the first to make her laugh and even shared Lula, his beloved doll, with her.
I like to think that Tech and Crosshair are sort of twins (like Echo and Fives) they're a great duo and I miss their interaction so much. Tech, as the wise one, did not get in the way of the others, offering his advice when needed. Crosshair, on the other hand, although he seems cold and very distant, I think he would quickly like Omega and become a supportive, slightly sarcastic brother to her.
• Crosshair is not as cold as he looks
Crosshair hated being different, and called a freak from the very beggining. All his life he tried to blend in, to do his job well as a soldier, and as a member of the team. He didn't show it, but he was touched by other people's words about their group, different look, and specific abilities. That's why he hated Regs so much, he wanted to prove his worth to them. And also to himself.
When I saw Crosshair for the first time, I thought that he must have quite low self-esteem and become nervous in stressful situations. Whenever he took off his helmet, we saw him immediately reach for a toothpick. He felt the need to have something in his mouth to relieve the stress and tension in his body. He always seemed to me to be the type of perfectionist who pays great attention to detail and will practice until he achieves perfection in a specific field.
Despite his specific style, Crosshair wasn't as cold as he seemed. He really cared about Omega, and I'm sure that if they had the chance to spend more time together, Crosshair would like the girl and treat her like his little sister. He will destroy anyone who tries to harm Omega.
I also think that Crosshair secretly loves animals, especially cats. I imagined that it started with Wrecker once bring a white, homeless kitten to the Marauder. The animal started fawning at Crosshair's legs and refused to leave him even for a second. In the end, Cross liked it, petted him and cuddled with him, and even let him sleep in bed with him. Having a pet was a stress reliever for him. He named his kitten Alpine.
• The past still hurts, just as much as before
Echo often had terrible nightmares. We can see in the Bad Batch, that his PTSD was still very strong. Every contact with medical equipment could trigger a severe panic attack and anxiety. Fortunately, Omega was there to support him at the time. I'm always touched that even though Echo didn't know Omega back then, he trusted her enough that her presence really helped him come back to reality and understand that he was safe.
I'm sure that he had nightmares about being tortured and locked at Skako Minor, and also dreamed of Fives. I think because of this he may have even been afraid to fall asleep, and as a result he slept very little.
He missed his brother so much and blamed himself for not being there when he died. Echo was afraid of being locked up and deprived of help, so he tried to get involved as much as possible in the fight against the Empire. I think that was one of the main reasons he went back to Rex.
I also think that Echo and Tech had long conversations and spent a lot of time together while repairing or piloting the ship. They got along the best of the whole team and only with Tech, Echo felt relaxed enough to be able to talk about his feelings and problems he was struggling with. Tech never asked, like the overprotective Hunter, he just listened, and that was enough for Echo to discover a soul mate similar to his fallen brother, Fives.
I imagine one night Tech found out that Echo couldn't sleep and asked him what happened. Echo was so surprised that someone actually asked him how he felt that he didn't know what to say at first. He finally decided to open up and confess what was on his mind. Tech understood him and they became very close from then on. That's why Echo suffered so much after losing Tech. He felt as if he had lost half of his soul again.
I imagine that, Echo was the only one from the Bad Batch to still use Mando'a. He and Fives used to speak this language among themselves. Fives nicknamed him Ech'ika (little Echo). Now, Echo used to call Omega ad'ika. After Fives death, Echo sang an old anthem - Vode an (Brothers all) to honor the memory of his fallen brother. They had learned it when they were still cadets and used to sing it together before going into battle and all 501st knew the lyrics. This is one of my favorite headcanons.
I'm sure that Echo got a tattoo of a five in honor of Fives' death. In this way he always carried his brother with him and wanted to honor his memory.
• Nightmares
Omega took a while to get used to her new home after leaving Kamino. I imagine she often had nightmares that made her afraid to go to sleep alone. Hunter saw that and let the little girl sleep with him. He told her some stories about the planets they had visited on missions, and the bond between them grew stronger. He didn't admit it, but he had fond memories of those times together.
• Fives and his twin
If Fives survived, he would be the first to side with Rex to save Echo. Seeing his beloved brother alive, but connected to computer and badly hurt, he would be both happy and devastated at the same time. Fives would do absolutely anything to be reunited with his beloved twin, even if the whole Galaxy was against him and thought he's crazy.
After being rescued, Fives would make sure Echo was fewling comfortable and help him overcome his PTSD episodes. Then he would join the Bad Batch with Echo, because he didn't wanted him to feel different. Despite some problems, the Bad Batch accepted them as their own and they became very close, like family. I pictured them sitting around fire and how they shared stories from various missions together.
Then Fives saw that Echo was trully happy. He hugged him close, and when Echo asked what happened, Fives simply replied, "I'm just happy you're here, vod'ika. That's all."
• Astronomy lesson
Tech taught Omega astronomy. How to read sky maps and name constellations. They often sat together at night, watching the sky. Hunter would get a little angry when they stay up too late, fearing that both his brother and little sister would be sick, but his anger faded quickly when he saw the smile on Omega's face. Papa Hunter would do anything to make his little girl happy.
• Two captains
Howzer is Rex's twin, like Fives and Echo. They are giving the same vibe. They trained together from an early age, still as cadets, and then the war separated them. They are also very similar in character. Courageous and great leaders, they do not abandon their people until the very end. I feel they would get along pretty well.
• Brothers for life
Cody was like an older brother to Rex. His ore'vod. He trusted him the most of all the clones.They were inseparable from the beginning of the war and became very close after the Umbara ARC. I imagine Cody was comforting a devastated Rex. He knew perfectly well that under the mask of captain's determination there was a lot of pain and suffering after loss of many brothers. They were both good people who saw a lot of evil and death in their lives. They carried mourning in their hearts and finaly were able tolet go all their emotions. It was the first time Rex had let tears flow in his brother's arms. He felt loved and safe, and Cody didn't let him go for a long time. From this moment, they looked at each other a bit differently, carefully analyzing the other's emotions and making sure that everything was okay. Besides being strong and serious leaders, they were caring and loving brothers on the inside.
Also, I just know that they were having small competition. The 501st and 212th were competing against each other as to which legion/batalion was more effective in combat. General Kenobi and Anakin secretly supported this fun game.
• Suffering medic
Kix put a lot of pressure on himself as a medic. He wanted to save as many lives as possible and not let a single soldier die. He always fought to the very end, refusing to rest until the last man was healed. Each death of his brother was equally painful for him and he treated it as a personal failure.
Umbara left a huge mark on him. He failed. So many of his brothers had fallen, and he worked until he was breathless. Only when he was so exhausted, that he could no longer stand on his own, he agreed to take a break.
Kix sat alone against the wall, looking at his hands, and cried quietly. His hands and armor were covered with the blood of his brothers. Some of them were badly hurt, others didn't make it. Kix wished he were in their place right now and felt guilty. It was hard for him to be the one that survived.
He didn't know how long he sat like that, but at one moment he felt a gentle hand on his shoulder and a calm voice that he recognized immediately. It was Jesse. His best friend, his brother... Jesse told him that he did everything he could, that it wasn't his fault, but Kix wasn't convinced.
Then Jesse, seeing how bad his brother's condition was, that he started shaking, without thinking much, he wrapped his arms around Kix, pulling him into a tight hug. The medic did not protest and gave vent to his emotions and helplessness. It was the first time anyone was interested in his health. He had always been responsible for others and now someone was taking care of him. It felt nice, warm... Kix hugged back his brother and they both know that they feel the same way.
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jedi-enthusiast · 10 months
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Did you ever see that trailer for that SWTOR expansion Legacy of the Sith? It was one of the most anti-Jedi things I have ever seen in my life and painted them as being no better than then Sith, and that made me so mad!
No, I haven't seen it and---at this point---I'm going with the "canon is what I decide, fuck you Disney" way of consuming any new Star Wars media.
George Lucas created Star Wars and the Jedi, and he was very fucking clear that the Jedi were the good guys---so I know that, above all else, I'm right when I say that the Jedi were good. I know that, whatever anyone else says, the Jedi were moral and good and they were doing their best in a shitty situation where they just could not win.
Which means that all of the other stuff that's coming out where people are leaning into the edgy "everyone's actually evil, and there's no good in the world, and good guys can never actually be good because who would actually ever be selfless and kind????" narrative that's, for some reason, gotten so popular nowadays---I'm either ignoring it or taking it with copious amounts of salt.
That Legacy of the Sith expansion? Ignoring it.
Acolyte? I might just watch it so I can hate on it, but honestly I'll probably just ignore it.
The Ahsoka show? I'll watch it, but my expectations are very low.
Etc. Etc.
People can say whatever they want about my doing this, but honestly---thanks to Disney handing over a vast amount of creative control to people who don't actually give a fuck about Star Wars and people like Filoni, who's now just pulling shit out of his ass to lift up his OCs--- with the newer stories and timelines and shit, you almost have to make up your own reasons for why things are happening/why certain characters are doing/saying things.
Take Bo-Katan for example and how the writers are portraying her in the Mandalorian.
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They're completely ignoring the fact that she was a member of Death Watch (a violent terrorist organization), that she had a hand in her sister's death (since she did help Maul alongside Visla, even though she was vocal about not wanting to/thinking it was a bad idea), or that she even fucking had a sister.
So now, since all of that is happening, you have to figure out for yourself why, in-universe, Bo-Katan is ignoring all of that---and that's obviously going to be colored by whether you like her or not.
Is she ignoring that she was a member of Death Watch because she thinks it doesn't matter/wasn't a big deal/wasn't bad? Or is she doing it because she can't face the guilt she feels over having been apart of it?
Is she ignoring that she had a hand in her sister's death because she doesn't really think she was responsible, since she vocally didn't support helping Maul? Or, again, is it out of guilt?
Is she not mentioning Satine because she wants to erase the fact that Mandalore was successfully peaceful for decades under Satine's rule until she [Bo-Katan] fucked it up and basically kicked off the whole "Mandalore basically dying/hanging on by a thread" thing, so she doesn't want anyone to know that? Or is it because she's still filled with so much grief and guilt that mentioning Satine is literally painful for her?
You have to make those assumptions and those decisions, because the writers just don't give a fuck anymore.
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So, with that in mind, everything that George Lucas didn't have a hand in, especially regarding the Jedi? I'm taking it as a suggestion, and a suggestion only.
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gffa · 1 year
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Everyone has my absolute sympathy for trying to sort this stuff out, because there is so much source material to sort through and so much of a game of Telephone being played (ie, one person says something they believe to be true, the next person picks it up as hard fact and repeats it as such, then the next person also believes it but adding a bit of their own assumptions to what the previous posts said, on and on until we get to where we are now in fandom) that it can be hard to sort it all out. My best advice is to just start paying attention to sources on things--like when someone posts a quote from Wild Space, I automatically think, okay, that's in the Legends continuity, because I've looked up which books are in which continuity enough to know that.  Once you start doing that often enough, you start naturally understanding what comes from what continuity. Like, for a specific example--the idea of Jedi aging out at 13, when someone posts about that, where does that come from?  It's always sourced back to the Jedi Apprentice books, so, okay, that's a Legends thing!  Can you think of any time that came up in the movies or in TCW?  If not, then it's not Lucas' continuity and it never happened there.  In fact, The Clone Wars (Ahsoka's 14 in the movie and said to be on the young side for being a Padawan) + Disney (the Dooku: Jedi Lost audiodrama has a 16 year old Initiate who will have to wait another year before trying to be a Padawan again) both show that's not part of those continuities. That's pretty much it, I just constantly go after the source, figure out where something is from, and if I can't find a source, it's probably Legends or fanon.  (Which is no shade!  People should do what they want!  But I do like knowing what's fanon and what's not.) For the Jedi stuff, I can definitely help you out--I have a Jedi reference project, which is a collection of citations from Lucas continuity + Disney continuity (if it's quoted from Lucas, the movies, or TCW s1-s6, then it's Lucas continuity, everything else is Disney on that list) and Part II has an intro section that lists the different continuities as I see them. But I would say the primary differences between Lucas/Disney and Legends Jedi are: (None of these are value judgements!  I have read so many good fics that mix and match all of these things and I hope people continue to do what makes them happy, re: what goes in which continuity!) - Aging out does not seem to exist, the AgriCorps do not exist in the same fashion if they exist in Disney canon. - While Bant and Siri have been recanonized, Garen and Reeft do not exist in Disney canon, nor does Feemor or Komari.  Rael Averross is Dooku's other Padawan in Disney continuity, he does not exist in Legends. - Male Cereans are not endangered, Ki-Adi-Mundi is not married in Lucas or Disney canon. - The post-ROTJ world is massively, massively different, like Luke married Mara Jade and they had a son, Ben Skywalker, Han and Leia had three children (Jacen & Jaina the twins, Anakin their youngest son), Luke trains more Jedi as adults, while in Lucas' views and in Disney, he trains younger students. - The clones are not Mandalorian, in Lucas canon and Disney canon, they consider Kamino their home and they've never spoken any Mando'a.  Honestly,  I'm not sure any Mando'a has ever been spoken in any of Disney's stuff?  (Also, Mando'a was heavily linked with Karen Traviss' writing and, given that she's a Trump supporter and anti-BLM irl, some people really don't want to touch her stuff.) - The Jedi meditation mantra of "there is no emotion, there is peace" is purely a supplementary canon thing, it started in an '80s roleplaying book for the OT, then made its way to PT Legends stuff, and is referenced in Disney's continuity, but it does not exist in Lucas' continuity at all.  Also the "emotion yet peace" version is a prequels era thing, a lot of people will say it's an "older version" of the Jedi Code, but the only time we see it is during the Clone Wars (from the Kanan comics' flashbacks). - Grey Jedi do not exist in Lucas Canon or Disney canon.  I’m not sure if they’re around in some form in Legends (a lot of wild stuff happened in Legends), but they seem to be actively impossible to have in these canons, given the story group’s commentary about how you cannot use the dark side without consequences.  You can’t be a Jedi and use the dark side, pretty much. Oh, no, I'm kind of stuttering to a stop on trying to think of more major differences between the continuities, because honestly I'm better at answering direct questions than trying to come up with something.  (And even then, if I can't write a 25k essay, I feel bad, like, "Is this enough??  Or am I FAILING  here??" because sometimes Star Wars just Does Not Give Us Answers.  orz)
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ahsoka still calling anakin a 'good master' after everything he fucking did to her oh my god, ENOUGH!
cowboy hat man won't give it a rest. he wants to throw ahsoka in everything and have her ascend to glorified creator's pet status, but he still can't figure out how to feature her without making her whole worth and existence about anakin. a two year relationship that ended with the master nearly murdering his padawan gets to be highlighted repeatedly, as if it was the most emotionally resonant thing to ever happen to ahsoka and anakin. instead of literally any other relationship that could be explored more.
screw ahsoka's other relationships from the jedi temple or the clones. she can hang out with rebels characters who are reduced to hollow husks of themselves while she has the charisma of a plank. but let's remind everyone how special and awesome she is because anakin was assigned to her for a short time. ahsoka is almost fifty years old now, were the options really that limited? screw respecting anakin's kids who achieved their own legacies and played important roles in the rebellion, defying what he chose to become. luke and leia are barely present in these galactic events and it's rare for their names to be mentioned at all. and who the hell is padme at this point?
ahsoka's writing has been unimpressive for a while now and i haven't cared about her story beyond fandom osmosis. but her show probably isn't even servicing people who actually liked her from tcw anymore, it's about whatever caters to filoni's warped perception of these characters.
Not only is it egregious because we know Anakin is a child murderer, Ahsoka NEVER moves on or comes to terms with it! She just keeps wallowing in it so Filoni can wank off to Anakin licking Ahsoka's butthole. Also: two years. There's no way she's near as speshul to him as Padme (the woman he was in love with for 10+ years and his wife) or Obi-Wan (his Master who was like a brother to him, again for over a decade) or Shmi (his freakin' mother and likely his one point of stability in a chaotic childhood as a slave). Don't even tell me that if Anakin was dropped in the World Between Contrived Time Travel he would save Ahsoka over any of them lmao. Or drop her like a hot potato if he had to choose between Ahsoka and Luke, his son and the last remnant he has of Padme (her son), Obi-Wan (guarded and trained by), Shmi (her grandson) and pretty much the one person he was able to commit an act of true, unselfish love for (killing Palps).
I do feel bad for the fans since I've seen plenty of comments that it's "not her" and that RD's portrayal is just so flat and devoid of smirky smugness/cheekiness/whatever. I personally may hate it but it is part of her character. And you're right, why is it only people she isn't connected to? She barely knew the Rebels crew and mostly as Fulcrum, so a professional relationship, not a friendship. Not to mention Sabine being forced into a Jedi Padawan role despite NEVER showing Force sensitivity or any interest in being a Jedi, and she lived with two of them for years. She had plenty of opportunity to ask Kanan if she wanted to be trained! But nah, we gotta give Ahsoka a Padawan and throw in some forced girl power stuff on the side. (As a former little girl who deeply craved female representation in the male-dominated stories I loved, I can tell you, little girls can tell when it's forced.) (Also Sabine choosing to force herself into a Jedi role out of grief for missing Kanan and Ezra instead of actually being into it or confronting her feelings of loss could've been a really interesting character moment. But nah.)
Side note but I also find it interesting that Rex is barely in this show. Wasn't Rex Ahsoka's clone counterpart? They're very close friends? He's still alive and kicking and could help her out? That would be a really cool relationship to explore? Or did Filoni realize he can't whitewash a real Māori man the way he can animated clones?
(Also I saw this ask before bed and woke up thinking about Mara Jade and Jaina Solo, a female teacher-student relationship that was so badass, and now I want Mara Jade being Rey's teacher and helping her confront her relationship to Palpatine and Rey having the guidance of someone who Gets It, can you imagine. We could've had it alllllllll)
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Miss Owl. Miss Owl do you have some more headcanons for Din being especially rough, almost mean with Luke, before realising he's a great person and having to grovel back into his life ?
Anon, you know what I like! Just ugh, even before I fell into the pit of manhwas, I've enjoyed the "oh i hate them" to "oh no, I love them" and need to get things figured out and made up for and the groveling and if the one they did wrong was hurt and they lose their mind *chef's kiss* just golden
So, Din can be a bit of an unfriendly and very guarded guy. He tries to be cold but professionally polite and stand-off-ish most of the time until someone wins him over--sometimes this is instant, sometimes it's just unusual circumstances, or sometimes it takes a while...the issue comes when he has a pre-disposed notion of dislike. He can be downright mean. And if he feels you have done him or, especially, those he cares for wrong then he is nasty.
In this, maybe he misunderstood that Ahsoka was speaking for Luke to get lost and not get close to Grogu (which we all know he wouldn't have--why she did that is just BS) or maybe thinks that Luke abandoned him across the galaxy in a ship alone (which made no sense so there has to be an actual reason happening; either danger was coming or he couldn't take Grogu and the feral gremlin stole the x-wing with the feral Artoo or tricked Luke) or just something else...either way, he thinks Luke is not a good person who has done him and Grogu wrong and is in no way interested in being friends.
Well, too bad. Now they have to be in close contact with each other and do like some mission or something similar and Din is not happy. He makes it clear, being pretty honest, he doesn't want to know about Luke. he doesn't care about him or his past or anything. He's just a Jedi who is closer to an enemy than a friend.
Of course, shenanigans happen; they get stuck or captured or whatnot and Luke just slowly shows his kindness and warmth but Din won't be fooled.
But it just continues and Din is growing frustrated and hates how he is feeling over someone he should hate and Luke is respectful but friendly and likes to chat and well...he probably snaps at him. So Luke pulls away and is all sad because he really likes Din.
Then more shenanigans and what do you know? There were misunderstandings and quick judgement and harsh tempers and now Din realizes he was wrong and is trying to apologize and Luke is all fine but just not like he was with Din before and Din is really upset because he liked that attention.
Him realizing not only he messed up but that he's head over heels in love with Luke (and who wouldn't be?) and now needs to figure out how to win Luke back...it's so good.
Even better if someone else tries to come in and is attempting to win Luke's heart.
Din wouldn't have dealt with jealousy like this in some time and not over a person. He is just left twitching and furious as Luke has a wall up between them (as Din originally wanted) and this other bastard is getting closer.
He's not about to let this go, though. He is not someone who gives up and Luke was hurt and doing this because of him. He needed to try and make up with him and heal their relationship and try and be together.
He'll woo, he'll plead, he'll be sad (which is true) he's ready to do whatever it takes to win Luke back over and make up for his attitude before.
It's just so good.
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nateofgreat · 1 year
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One weird thing I’ve seen the Jedi criticized for is them not “trusting” various people, only for the person in question to turn out not to be worthy of trust.
Like they don’t trust Anakin and he goes on to slaughter their order down to the last child. Should they have trusted him more? Do they somehow deserve to die for not trusting the person who massacres them?
Or they’re accused of not “trusting” Ahsoka when she’s framed for bombing their own temple. I mean they do still trust her and say that they’ll figure it out but have to turn her over to the authorities in the meantime. It’s only after Ahsoka escapes and goes on the run that they start to wonder about her.
But what were they supposed to do in that situation? Should they have instinctively known it was Bariss, the woman who even Ahsoka trusted? Yet Ahsoka leaving is portrayed as the nasty Jedi’s fault for not blindly trusting someone who kept making herself look suspicious.
Or when Ahsoka comes back with a terrorist in tow demanding an army, she nags them for not instantly handing one over as though she’s entitled to military resources and permission to invade another planet, when she’s not even a Jedi anymore. Still, they give it to her, they’re so trusting and considerate they give a civilian an army and let her lead a military operation despite her not rejoining the Order.
An army that all died half as a result of Ahsoka’s bad decisions btw.
And again, the Jedi are looked upon as arrogant or shady for discussing removing Palpatine from power (basically saying they should’ve trusted him too?) when of course, Palpatine turned out to be the Dark Lord of the Sith.
What I’m trying to say is, the Jedi were pretty right to not trust any of these people? I don’t see how this is a flaw with the Jedi Order, would you trust any of them in their position?
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david-talks-sw · 2 years
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These are the only three flaws I will concede, when it comes to the Jedi during the Prequels.
“They got lax/complacent.”
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Yeah*. If you listen to the director’s commentary, George Lucas states the scene in AOTC with Jocasta Nu is there to indicate how unprepared the Jedi were before the Sith’s plan. They thought they were secure and ready but they were not and it turns out humble restaurant owners like Dex know things they don't.
*HOWEVER: Who wouldn’t be complacent, in times of peace?
The Sith were thought to be extinct and Dooku was once a Jedi, a revered one at that. Nobody could have suspected he’d betray the Order that raised him and loved him.
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Nobody could've suspected that he'd abuse of their trust and delete a system from the Archives using the credentials of his best friend who he'd had assassinated. That's a verrrry specific scenario, and expecting them to be prepared for that is unreasonable.
"They should've sensed something!" Well, by this point in time, everything surrounding the Jedi was tainted by the Dark Side, which clouded everything. So on the one hand, this situation granted Sidious the gift of foresight and allowed them to always be one step ahead, and on the other, it caused the Jedi to be stuck trekking ahead in a fog, unsure of what the next move would be.
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“They were politically-inept.”
Yes**. That’s how the Sith ran circles around the Jedi. They figured “there’s only two of us, if we march into the Temple we’ll get slaughtered, but wait, the Jedi serve the Senate and the Senate is run by politicians… what if we become the politicians? Then we can destroy the Jedi and the principles from the inside!”
**HOWEVER: The Jedi were politically-inept by choice.
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After all, their function isn’t setting policy but carrying it out. They’re not politicians, they’re diplomats and as such they're not allowed to get involved in the political process.
But if they were... they still wouldn't. Because power corrupts, and if you let the space monks (who already have magical powers) have political power too, then that will lead to a very dark place.
The Jedi knew that if they tried to play politics, they’ll lose because they have neither the ruthlessness nor the status to do it well, so they make it a point of never going anywhere near it.
Unfortunately, that leaves them open to situations where the Senate or Palpatine corner them into doing something they really don’t wanna do.
It's how they were forced to expel Ahsoka, how they lost the favor of the citizens and it's how Dooku, then the Emperor, framed them as power-hungry sorcerers with his propaganda.
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“The war made them hypocrites.”
Sure***. The Jedi were meant to be diplomats, not soldiers. By waging war instead of keeping the peace, they’ve compromised on their values.
***HOWEVER: The Jedi know this and they’re not happy about it at all.
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Firstly, because they were forced into this situation by the Senate and Palpatine, who drafted them into service.
Secondly, because they know they’re essentially moving ahead blindly and playing right into the Sith Lord’s hand by fighting this war he orchestrated.
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But finally, it’s that they know that not joining would’ve been worse. Sticking by their principles would’ve resulted in the enslavement and genocide of many populations. Sometimes, the spirit of the rules must be prioritized over the letter. Either do nothing and be true to your principles, or go against them but save lives.
It’s a bad choice to make, but not as bad as not making one.
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It's a bad choice, but it's motivated by a desire to do some good and it did. They saved countless lives (sometimes at the cost of their own) and inspired countless more to form the Rebellion, later on.
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So... three flaws.
But they all come with asterisks. There’s a reasonable (sometimes, even admirable) justification for each of them.
I’m pointing these out because a lot of people seem to conflate “the Jedi were flawed” with “the Jedi were at fault” when talking about their own demise. And the answer to that is:
No.
The Jedi were not at fault. Everybody else was.
The Senate was at fault for growing corrupt and self-serving.
Big Corp for their never ending greed.
The Separatists for being so blind and naive as to think Big Corp would tooootally value their principles and absolutely not commit war crimes every chance they get.
The Sith for being the mass-murdering egotistical assholes who started this whole mess.
And the citizens of the galaxy for not taking up arms in the face of blatant injustice.
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Sometimes bad people win.
That doesn't always mean the good guys are at fault. Sometimes, the bad guys are just… better at the game. Mostly because they see it as a game, and the good guys don't.
Luckily, 20 years later, most of the above faults were rectified by the Rebellion, which was led by the best of the Senate, and composed of Separatist remnants and brave citizens of the galaxy.
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Bo Katan x The Armorer (The Foundling)
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Summary: When a child and her mother are brought to the covert following a routine patrol, the lives of the Armorer and Bo Katan Kryze are forever altered.
It was Paz Vizsla who had found the girl half starved, the mother ill and unresponsive when he was patrolling Navarro. He had almost missed her, but something had made him turn his head, and he saw this small child pleading near his feet. Her mother was lying nearby on a dirty blanket.
His parental instincts had kicked in when the child asked if he had food or medicine and had quickly ordered his squad to take the mother back to the Covert.
"Come with me, child." Paz said softly. "We will help you and your mother."
"T...thank you sir."
"What is your name?"
"Satine." Satine answered quietly, and Paz picked her up like he would Ragnar, his son. Holding the child close and trying not to think about how light she was.
When they made it back to the covert, he had one of their female coverts get Satine a bath, new clothes and some food. The clothes were a little big, and she asked for her mother a few times; only to be told she was sick and needed rest as Paz contacted the Armorer and Bo. He knew they had a Jedi visiting, and wondered if she could help figure out what happened.
When Ahsoka met him outside the common area, Paz looked grim.
"The child was starving Jedi. And her mother is very sick."
Ahsoka flickers her gaze to the child and frowns. "How did you come across her?"
"She approached us." Paz answers. "I couldn't turn her away. She's so small. She needed our help."
"You did the right thing, Paz." Ahsoka answers. "I came here to pass along information, but I'll do what I can for the girl."
"Thank you." Paz answers. "I will go and check on the mother." He leaves, and Ahsoka takes a deep breath before she enters the room.
The girl couldn't be more than ten or eleven. With dark reddish hair and blue eyes that were fixated on the untouched food in front of her.
She was nervous, Ahsoka realised. Looking around like she was afraid someone would take it away at any moment. She curled her arm around the plate and looked up at Ahsoka like she sensed she was there.
"You can have seconds if you want." Ahsoka says gently as she sits across from her, tilting her head. "The covert takes care of all its foundlings." She adds, and the girl relaxes a bit, starting to eat her food. "My name is Ahsoka. You and your mother were brought in by Paz?"
The girl nods and pauses. "Mother is very sick." She looks at Ahsoka, hesitating. "You have a very pretty name. It's a lot better than mine anyway." She hesitates again as Ahsoka nods at her to continue
"My name is Satine."
Ahsoka smiled warmly. "You were named after the Duchess?" She asks, and Satine nods. "Your parents must have high hopes for you."
"I guess so." Satine shrugs. She looks at the doorway to see Paz and swallows nervously. Was something wrong?
"Young one? I need you to come with me." Paz says from the doorway, and Ahsoka is already on her feet.
"Am I in trouble?" Satine asks. She stands up and moves next to Ahsoka.
"No. It's..." Paz straightens up. "Please come with me Satine."
Ahsoka puts a hand on her shoulder. "I will come with you." She offers. Satine looks at her and nods before they follow Paz into the medical wing.
"She must go in by herself." Paz says suddenly. Ahsoka looks down at Satine and squeezes her hand. Trying to bring her comfort. She knows it's about her mother now.
He pauses at the door, and Ahsoka moves to lean against the wall as Satine lets go of her hand. She goes inside to her mother, who's been lying there for three days, and reaches out to hold her hand as Paz comes into the room.
It's cold.
"She's gone." Satine says suddenly. Her face feels hot, and she grips her mother's hand tightly. It takes a moment for Satine to realise that she's crying.
"She is with your Buir now and your ancestors." Paz replies and kneels down next to her. "But do not feel as though you are forgotten small one." He stands up. "I will be back in a moment."
Paz stands up and leaves the room, meeting Ahsoka outside; leaning against the wall. She looks at him, but death hangs in the air through the force, and she knows what Paz is about to say.
"The child's mother has died." Paz says. He looks at Ahsoka. "I will help prepare the rites, but the child must be accepted as a foundling of the tribe. You must speak to the Armorer." He looks back inside the room to Satine, who is crying quietly.
Ahsoka nods and thanks him before moving past Paz to Satine. She kneels down next to her and places a hand in her back. "Paz needs to prepare your mother for her funeral. I need you to come with me Satine."
Satine sobs, but nods; letting Ahsoka help her up. Ahsoka holds her close as they walk back to Paz, and the giant of a man places a gentle hand on Satine's head.
"It will be hard, young one, but you are not alone." Paz offers before moving away. Satine sniffs and wraps both her arms around Ahsoka tightly.
"It's going to be okay, Satine." Ahsoka tells her. She lets Satine hold onto her for as long as she needs until her tears are quiet and take her by the hand. "Come. The Armorer wishes to speak with us."
"Is she the leader around here?" Satine asks, trying to focus on anything else but her mother for a moment.
"She is." Ahsoka says, "But she has a soft spot for foundlings."
Satine nodded and didn't say anything else as they approached the forge. She kept close to Ahsoka when they approached the Armorer and a red-haired woman who had her helmet off. She didn't know Mandalorians could do that.
"This is the foundling?" The Armorer says as she puts down her hammer. She tilts her head as she looks at her, realizing she has been crying. "What has upset you adi'ka?"
"My mother..." Satine shakes her head and rubs tears from her eyes.
"...is gone." Ahsoka says. She looks at Bo, who is staring at Satine sympathetically. "Paz requested she be taken in as a foundling."
"A noble request." The Armorer answers. "You have no one else, child?" The Armorer asks softly.
Satine nodded and looked at the floor. She didn't want to look at anyone. She didn't want them to tell her it was going to be okay. Her mother was dead.
She really did have no one.
"Child, you must look me in the eyes when speaking. When you answer questions. " The Armorer explained. Satine looked at her, eyes unsure and cautious. "Good."
She turned to Bo, who had turned pale; frowning. Trying to figure out where she knew this child from. Why did she look so familiar?
"What is your name child? You're parents names?" The Armorer asked. "I must write it down so you don't forget your history."
Satine swallowed, nervous. "My name is Satine." She looked at Ahsoka, who nodded at her to continue. "My mother was Adalia, and my father was Koregan. But everyone called my buir Korkie. He died in the purge."
"He was Mandalorian?"
Satine nods. "I don't remember him though."
"You were young. It is understandable." The Armorer turned to Bo, who startled badly. She placed a hand on her arm and drew her attention. The Armorer tilted her helmet, so it touched Bo's and squeezed her arm as she pulled away.
"Are you wives?" Satine asked suddenly.
"We are." The Armorer replied, amused.
Satine brightened up. "Oh! That's so wonderful!"
Bo nodded in thanks but still didn't say anything. How could she? Not when the eyes of her late sister stared at them.
"I have to go." Bo says suddenly, ignoring the look Ahsoka sends her way. The room is suddenly too hot, too suffocating. How could no one have told her that she had a niece? That she wasn't the last Kryze.
How could they lie to her?
Satine watches as Bo leaves with a furrowed brow, her heart seizing in pain. Was she angry with her? Satine frowned. "Have I done something wrong?"
"No adi'ka. Bo is just having a rough day." The Armorer puts a hand on Satine's shoulder and draws her attention towards her. "Come. I will teach you about our funeral rights and help you through the ceremony tomorrow."
The Armorer looks at Ahsoka as she leaves with Satine, and Ahsoka nods at her. She will go and check on Bo in the meantime.
"Bye, Ahsoka." Satine waves over her shoulder and turns her attention back to the Armorer.
"I'll see you in a bit little one." Ahsoka replies gently. She watches them disapear and then reaches out with the force. Bo is outside? Upset. Angry.
Ahsoka hurries.
By the time Ahsoka finds Bo, she's thrown her helmet to the ground and is pacing. Ahsoka approaches carefully, not wanting to startle Bo but understanding that the anger she feels is coming from a place of hurt.
"Bo?" Ahsoka says, and Bo turns to her, furious.
"Nothing you say can make this better." Bo snaps at her.
"Look. You can be as mad as you want in private. But not in front of Satine." Ahsoka argues back. "She's force sensitive Bo. She knew you were upset."
Bo swallows hard and breathes hard. But the anger still lingers. "Just like Kenobi."
"He never knew about Korkie. Why would your sister tell him he had a son? She wanted him to stay with the Jedi Order." Ahsoka answers. She steps closer to Bo and holds her arm.
"That child..."
"Satine." Ahsoka corrects gently. "Has just lost her mother."
Bo turns away from Ahsoka, trying to calm down. "I won't tell the child yet."
Ahsoka sighs. "Okay."
"I need some time, Ahsoka. Please." Bo pleads with her, red hair falling in her eyes. She clenched her fist and Ahsoka turned away.
"Come inside before it gets too dark, at least." Ahsoka says. "I'll go check on Satine." She walks away, leaving Bo alone with her thoughts.
And with her regrets.
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justagalwhowrites · 11 months
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Beskar Doll - Ch. 36: Unexpected Meetings
Conflict in Calodan may put you, the Mandalorian and Grogu in greater danger than you realized. A continuation of Beskar Doll Ch. 1-35 found on Tumblr here.
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Pairing: The Mandalorian/Din Djarin x Female Reader
Warnings: Canon-typical violence. No use of Y/N. Minors DNI 18+ only.
Length: 3.7K
“I’m not just staying with Grogu on the ship.” 
Din sighed. 
“Cyare.” 
“Din.” 
“Patu.”
You looked down to the child in your arms, his little mouth drawn into a concerned line. You smiled a little. 
“He agrees,” you said, looking to the Mandalorian. “Too worried about leaving his dad to fight on his own, he thinks we should come.” 
Din sighed. 
“You can’t just claim he said what you want him to say, Doll,” he said. “Doesn’t work that way.” 
You glared at him. 
The Mandalorian had made a deal with the Jedi: in exchange for some guidance on how to help guide the child through his growing skills in the force, he would help her rid Calodan of Imperial forces. 
It was a stupid deal on Ahsoka’s part in your opinion - not that you were about to say anything to that end. Din probably would have paid her for the opportunity to kill Imperials. Maker knew you would. But you desperately wanted as much help with the child as you could get. 
The urge to help him and understand him was strong. You were having a hard time remembering the last time you felt quite this desperate for anything that wasn’t life or death - or Din. But the child - Grogu, still an adjustment knowing his name - had quickly become the center of your universe. You wanted to give him everything he could want or need, including an understanding of himself and the power that flowed through him. And, apparently, you. 
Not knowing made you strangely uncomfortable. 
When it came to big things, you always knew. You knew how to survive. You knew how to kill. You knew how to pull vital information from bodies you’d broken and minds you’d warped to suit your needs. You knew how to accept death. There was safety in knowing. 
But lately, there had been an almost monumental amount of not knowing. You did not know how to be loved, not really, not in the way that Din and the child loved you. You did not know how to live with the depth of feeling you had for them, the way it sometimes consumed you, the way it made you afraid to die. And you did not know how to give the child what he needed. 
No, you didn’t like not knowing and if Ahsoka was willing to trade something that you’d have given freely in exchange for the comfort of knowledge you weren’t about to argue with her. 
You were, however, going to argue with the paranoid Mandalorian who was trying to sequester you in the ship away from any potential danger. 
“Are you going to treat me like glass from here on out?” You asked, trailing behind him as he gathered supplies around the Crest. 
“I’m going to protect what’s mine from the Empire,” he said, adding cartridges to his belt. “Call it what you want.” 
“So I just don’t get a say?” You asked. 
“My hunt,” he replied, moving to another panel. “You get a say when it’s yours.” 
“What if I want to protect what’s mine?” You demanded, the child still on your hip. 
“You can do that by staying on the ship with him.” 
“Din.” 
“Cyare.” 
You ground your teeth. 
“I want to protect you, too,” you said. “You said you were mine. I want to keep you safe.”
He shrugged. 
“Don’t need it.” 
He started down the ramp of the Crest and you stalked after him. 
“Either we can make a plan for this together or you can deal with me figuring out how to contribute all on my own,” you said. “I’m not going to just hide away while you take care of problems…” 
He stopped in the middle of the ramp and turned around slowly. You were far enough behind him that you were the same height. You thrust your chin out defiantly, jaw set firm. 
“You would really put him at risk to get your way,” he said cooly. 
“No,” you said. “And I think we both know this has nothing to do with your concern about my ability to keep Grogu safe.” 
“Patu.” 
“Thank you,” you looked down at the baby, who smiled, even though you had no idea what he said. 
The Mandalorian came back up the ramp, close enough that he was taller than you again. His beskar glinted in the sun. He raised one gloved hand and cupped your cheek and you pressed your face into his palm like you always did. You couldn’t resist it. 
“Not losing you again,” he said softly. 
“I’m not losing you, either,” you said. “So let me help. It’s a whole city of Imps, it’s too much for you and one Jedi. I know how to handle myself, Din. I know how to kill Imperials, it’s one of the things I’m best at. If it will really make you feel better, I’ll do something out of the way, but don’t lock me away because you’re paranoid.” 
He held your face a moment longer before taking his hand back. 
“Fine,” he said eventually. “But you have to do what I say and if it looks bad, get back to the ship and lock yourselves in. Imperials are after you and him, it’s not safe.” 
“Safe is relative,” you smiled a little.  
The Mandalorian settled on you perching on a roof with Grogu so you could pick off incoming Imperials from where they were trying to move civilians. Simple enough, though you could tell Din wasn’t happy about it. 
He stood at the corner of the building you were about to scale, the child and your rifle strapped to your back. 
“Still don’t like this,” he muttered. “Last time…” 
“Last time we didn’t have coms,” you said. “And last time we didn’t know if we could even expect a fight. Now we do.” 
“If it looks like things are turning…” he began, but you cut him off. 
“Mando,” you reached up and held his helmet, your thumb slipping into the contour of it. “It’ll be fine.” 
“Promise you’ll go for the ship, Doll,” he said, his voice hard. You sighed. “I mean it.” 
“I promise.” 
He touched his cool metal forehead to your own. 
“See you soon,” you smiled a little before pulling away from him and climbing the building. 
You got set easily on the roof, setting the child beside you. You gave him the toy from Nevarro and he cooed. 
“See, he really should be happy you don’t want to just play with blasters,” you muttered, setting your sights. “Talk about dangerous…” 
“Patu.” 
“Exactly,” you said even though you didn’t know what he’d actually tried to say. 
The fight below reminded you just how much you hated not knowing. You could see signs of the Mandalorian and the Jedi’s progress through the city, ripples of noise and smoke, waves of people rushing to escape. 
When an Imperial slipped through, you sighted them and - when you were certain of the shot - fired. 
It was just a trickle at first, but then more and more arrived, trying to stem the flow of fleeing citizens. Smoke and the sound of blasters were spreading through the city and you were taking out troopers and officers one by one. You tried to watch for those who posed the biggest threat - anyone ready to fire on someone became a priority. Then there were those who seemed like they were figuring out that the shots dropping their comrades were coming from on high and not from the flood of people pushing back against them. You weren’t eager to give up your position or have to deal with stormtroopers trying to get to you. But before too long, it was too obvious that there was a sniper taking down their troops.
One of the officers grabbed a woman with a baby in her arms and pressed a blaster to her head, looking around at the roofline until he spotted the flash of your rifle. You ground your teeth. 
They were too far away to hear, especially over the chaos of the conflict, but you could see the terror on her face, the cruel snarl on the face of the officer. You glanced down at the child who looked up at you, his eyes wide and ears down low. He wasn’t fully afraid but he was stressed. 
“Think you can help me with something?” You asked. He just looked back at you. “We’re going to be a team, you and me. It’s OK if it doesn’t work but…” 
You put the bag with him back on your back and raised the rifle, hands up in surrender as you peered over the ledge of the roof. The officer was pointing your way, moving closer to you. 
You relaxed your mind and reached out for the child, trying to communicate what you were going to do as best you could. You could feel him tapping into your thoughts but could only feel a sense of assurance coming back. You’d take that as a yes. 
You got to your feet, staying ducked behind the ledge as much as you could, keeping your rifle visible. You couldn’t see shit this way, you could really only hope that the officer hadn’t killed the woman or her child yet. If he was smart he wouldn’t have. 
When you were positioned, you took a deep breath and glanced over your shoulder, even though Grogu was completely concealed inside his bag. 
“Here we go, kiddo,” you said. 
In one movement, you dropped the rifle and jumped up, landing on the ledge of the roof. You stayed there only for a moment, a fraction of a second, just long enough to take your blaster from your thigh before you jumped over the side of the building. 
It was only 2 stories up, about 25 feet. The landing would be rough but wouldn’t do much damage - it would just be a hell of a lot better if the kid could catch you first. 
“Soft landing soft landing soft landing!” You chanted, hoping that he knew what you meant. You got off a few shots on the way down, the two troopers nearest to your landing spot both down. 
Grogu had understood your request, your fall suddenly stopping about a foot before you hit the ground - there was nothing sharp about it, almost like you’d fallen into gelatin and all your kinetic energy had been dispersed. You hung in the air for a fraction of a second before you dropped the rest of the way. 
“Great job, kiddo!” You called over your shoulder as you ran for the officer. 
He’d been stupid enough to move closer to your position as you’d faked surrender and hadn’t seemed to have caught up with what you were doing quite yet, still looking around frantically for where you’d gone, blaster still against the woman’s skull. You shot him from the side before he’d realized you were coming. 
Except now you were on the ground in the press of people without a good vantage point, people fleeing and fighting around you. 
When you spotted a stormtrooper, you shot them as you worked your way to the edge of the street, trying to find something you could climb up even just a few feet to see over the crowd. 
You settled for a clothing stand, climbing quickly onto the table that put you head and shoulders above everyone around you. You angled your body so that the backpack with the child was out of the line of fire and started picking off troopers again, out of the way enough that you hadn’t drawn much attention. 
It only took a few moments for you to be absorbed by it, by the act of shooting and killing. It was something you knew so well, something you’d been trained for. You’d been built and shaped to do exactly this, defend others from those who wished to do them harm. Trained to levy as much damage as possible in as little time as you could manage. The faster you could kill an enemy, the better chance you had of wiping out enough to get your charge to safety. 
The people and the troopers kept coming and you kept shooting. You were so lost in it that, when you had a sudden twinge of anticipatory fear, it shocked you out of it. The twinge came half a second before a blaster bolt caught your hip, sending you flying. 
You twisted in the air so you landed on your front, only jostling the precious cargo on your back. Another blaster bolt whizzed over your head and you rolled onto your side, quickly aiming past your feet and firing, dropping the trooper who’d dropped you. 
Your hand went to your hip, the fabric of your pants scorched and bloody. It must have been a glancing shot, otherwise you’d probably have been a lot worse off. 
Getting back up hurt but it wasn’t more than you could handle, more concerned about what Din was going to do when he saw that you were injured. 
“Fucking Imps,” you muttered, shooting another one as he came around a corner. 
The flow of them slowed quickly then, and soon the press of people just innocents instead of armored thugs. You leaned against a wall on your uninjured side, watching for more just in case, waiting for the Mandalorian to finish his hunt. 
***
You weren’t where Din had left you. 
Ahsoka had made quick work of the Magistrate while he - and you, from what he could see of the Imperial bodies that littered the street - took down troopers to give civilians a chance at survival. The moment things had settled - the second the Jedi emerged victorious - he went for you. 
He’d been away from you for too long already. He could feel the distance in his chest, its grip violent and harsh. He couldn’t see you, he couldn’t touch you, couldn’t be sure that you were alive and well. 
The last time you’d been out of his sight like this you’d been taken, tortured, nearly killed. He should have held his ground with you, insisted that you stay on the ship - lock it down without giving you the information on how to get out of the damn thing. Sure, you’d have raged at him but you would have been in one piece. He’d have known that. 
But you weren’t on the roof. The only sign that you’d ever been on the roof was your rifle - left abandoned behind the ledge. He picked it up, slung it on his back before he looked around quickly, scanning the street below, looking for some sign of you. He didn’t see it. 
His chest got tighter. 
“Cyare!” He yelled it, stepping onto the ledge of the roof and dropping onto the street below, looking to see if he could catch some signature of you that he could track. He was about to go for the com link when he spotted you, limping slightly as you made your way toward him. He scowled. Of course you’d left your post. Of course you’d dropped into the fight. Of course you’d gotten hurt. 
He stalked over to you, looking you over, quickly spotting the shot at your hip. 
“I thought you understood what happens when you disobey an order on a hunt,” he growled. You glared up at him. 
“They were going to kill a woman with a baby and I couldn’t get a clean shot off from the roof,” you snapped. “I made the right call.” 
He grabbed you and pulled you against him, holding you tightly to his chest. Your arms slowly went around his waist. 
“I’m OK,” you said into his armor. The ache in him finally eased. “We’re both OK.” 
He held onto you as the four of you made your way out of city, Ahsoka giving him the beskar spear the Magistrate had offered him in exchange for killing the Jedi. It was more than a fair deal. 
Din was ready to get off this planet. Between the feeling he’d come with, the dread of leaving here with out the child and the grip of fear at being away from you, he wanted to be back on his ship with you and Grogu. Somewhere he knew was safe. Somewhere he had control. 
“Our people may have had their disagreements,” Ahsoka said, looking between the Mandalorian and you. “But I believe we work far better together as allies than we ever did as enemies.” 
“Thank you, for your help with Grogu,” he nodded once. 
“I trust…” she began and frowned, looking up to the sky. A fraction of a second later, you did too, half a moment before there was the distinctive howl of an Imperial ship overhead. But it wasn’t just a troop transport. Someone else, someone more than just more muscle for the magistrate, was aboard that craft. 
“Din,” you looked at him. Your eyes were wide.  
“Go,” Ahsoka ordered, igniting her sabers. “Get Grogu out of here, I’ll hold them off…” 
The Mandalorian took you by the wrist and started running, not sure if it would be faster to pick you up in your injured state. He didn’t have time to figure it out, the ship setting down directly in front of him, Ahsoka running along side you. 
He started to pull you to the side when a bolt fired from the ship, forcing him back the way he came as the ramp lowered. Din positioned himself in front of you, blaster drawn, waiting for what felt like the inevitable. 
His mind ran through options. What could he do to get you and Grogu out of here alive? Nothing else mattered. The entire fucking planet could go up in smoke so long as the two of you left in one piece. He would make that happen. He’d get you out of here if it was the last thing he did. 
“Din Djarin!” 
The Mandalorian’s blood ran cold. 
“Isn’t this a pleasant surprise,” Moff Gideon strode down the ramp of the ship, smiling pleasantly. As though he’d arrived for tea. “When I was told the Magistrate needed assistance handling the locals, I can’t say I expected to find you here. Especially not with a Jedi.” 
His eyes ranged over Ahsoka. 
“Of course, you never became a true Jedi master, did you, Ahsoka?” He said, looking mildly amused. “Were your skills just not up to par? Or was the timing just… not right?” 
She snarled but stayed near Din, sabers ready. 
Gideon’s eyes traveled to you, going a little wide. He was silent for a moment. 
“Now you truly are someone I didn’t expect to see here,” he said. “Or ever again. It seems the rumors of your death are indeed exaggerated, Handmaid.” 
“Not my fault Imps are bad at their jobs,” you snapped. “Your information gathering was always lacking.” 
“But yours wasn’t, was it?” He asked, prowling closer, stormtroopers pouring off the craft at his back, all armed to the teeth. Din stepped back, closer to you. “No, you were the only interrogator to ever break one of my men. We may have even lost the war because of you, all because you were able to evacuate the rebel fleet when we were almost positioned to destroy it. Oh I’ve been looking for you for a very long time.” 
“Get ready to start over,” you said. 
“I’ll make you three a deal,” he said. “Give me the child - who I know must be here somewhere even if he’s just out of sight - and the rest of you can go.” 
You moved closer to Din, your hand slipping into his. You squeezed his fingers twice, like you were trying to signal him, but he wasn’t sure of what. 
“No takers?” He asked. “Fine, another offer. Handmaid, hand yourself over to me. I’m sure you have enough information to keep us busy for a while. Give yourself to me and I’ll let them go, for now. Your sacrifice will give them a decent head start.” 
Din could almost feel you considering it. He tightened his hold on your fingers. You started to pull away from him, he felt you moving. 
His chest clenched tight again. He moved without thinking, grabbing his blaster and firing. 
Gideon expected it. 
Ahsoka did, too. 
The Jedi moved so quickly he could barely see it, sabers flying, deflecting blaster bolts. 
“GO!” She screamed it. 
Din kept one hand firmly in yours, shooting as he ran, Ahsoka like a shield, deflecting almost everything and his beskar handling the rest. 
He wasn’t worried about killing troopers or Gideon or taking out the Imperial craft. He was outgunned, outmanned. His best hope was running. The only way you would survive was running. 
So he ran with you. 
At the line of troopers, Ahsoka broke away, the sabers a blur. The moment blaster bolts were no longer ringing off his armor, he grabbed you, swinging you into his arms and taking off with his jetpack, flying straight for the Crest. 
“We have to go back!” You yelled it, twisting in his grip. “We can’t just leave her!” 
He ignored you, flying into the hold and depositing you and the child on the floor of the hold, closing the ramp and running to the cockpit. You followed close behind, hissing as you climbed the ladder with your injured hip. 
“You have to go back!” 
“Buckle in,” he ordered, starting the ship, grinding his teeth. 
“Din!” 
“I know, Cyare!” 
It took everything he had to not just take off and jump. He liked the Jedi. He was thankful for what she’d done for Grogu. But if he had to choose between her and you or her and the child, it was never going to be her. 
Ahsoka was still alive as the Crest made it to Gideon’s ship. She was fighting Gideon himself, deflecting blaster bolts with one saber, defending from his attacks with the dark saber with the other. She was too close to the ship for him to hit that, but he took aim at the surrounding troopers and fired, wiping out several dozen in just a few shots. 
The ship redirected its weapons. 
“That’s all we can do,” he said as he took the ship up as fast as he could push it, slipping out of the atmosphere and jumping away. 
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Tbh I really wish they had Ahsoka address that her idealized version of Anakin isn't reality and never was. And that's a common abuse survivor thing! Literally wouldn't be difficult to put in her character. Iirc Force Vision Anakin basically said something like "you never learn" because she still is just running instead of facing the fact Anakin's fall was never about her and never her fault. There were signs certainly but scattered across a long period of time and with different people.
I wish we could get Huyang pointing out that holding onto the past and her child version of Anakin isn't healthy and honestly an ancient Jedi droid would be literally the perfect character. Not to mention her habit of running instead of facing it head on. There's this great opportunity here for the character and while I'm losing hope, if not Huyang than someone like Ezra, a character who's learned to let go. Ahsoka's biggest flaw at this point is her inability to move forward and that needs to be addressed before giving her more powers.
I was actually JUST thinking last night that it would've been SO COOL to have Huyang sort-of step in as a surrogate Master for Ahsoka to help point out the fallacies in her unhealthy coping mechanisms and way of looking at things. Like when Ahsoka says "the Jedi failed", Huyang points out that actually they didn't, or at least, if they failed then it's not their fault and CERTAINLY not because they didn't allow in enough people who weren't Force sensitive. When she pushes about Sabine, he can point out that not only would the Order not have accepted her, there's a REASON she wouldn't necessarily be happy as a Jedi and it's not healthy for either of them for Ahsoka to try to push Sabine to acquire skills she quite simply does not and cannot ever have.
And of course, with Anakin, he can be even more explicit.
One of the things they've given Huyang as a characterization in this show is the ability to be very bluntly honest sometimes. What's frustrating is that one of the few places he ISN'T is when the topic of Anakin comes up. He tells Sabine that she's a terrible Padawan, worst he's ever seen. He tells Hera that people like her because she disobeys orders when she cares about things. But when asked about Anakin, the most he says is that Anakin was "intense." That's it. It might've been interesting for Huyang to be a little less vague about Anakin and perhaps one of the ONLY people Ahsoka's ever actually told about Anakin having been Vader and so he can speak to that more candidly and honestly. He wasn't just "intense," he was a traitor. He broke his vows, he disrespected everything the Jedi stood for, he was a murderer. You could explain away his vagueness about Anakin by having Ahsoka say that she wants this to remain a secret, that she never told the Ghost crew about her master's true identity and she doesn't want them to know because of how she thinks it might change the way they look at her. So maybe he's more candid with Ahsoka herself, but when Hera asks, the best he can say is "intense."
Have Ahsoka tell Huyang that Anakin was a good Master, and Huyang can point out that, while that may have been true at one point, it wasn't ALWAYS true. It didn't REMAIN true. He betrayed her. He tried to kill her. He refused to come back for her. Because one of the things Ahsoka was struggling with in Rebels was figuring out how to connect the Anakin she knew as a child with what she knew of Darth Vader and what caused Anakin to change so much. It might've been interesting to have Ahsoka recognize that there were pieces of Vader in the Anakin she knew, too, even if she didn't recognize it at the time. There were secrets he kept from her, moments where he could get SO ANGRY. It might've been interesting for her to discuss that terrible awful training from TOTJ and have Huyang point out just how fuck awful that kind of training truly was. Even if it was done out of a desire to protect her, that didn't actually make it okay or a valid method of training. No true Jedi would have asked that of her or done that to her, not because they were weak, but because all she would've learned from it was FEAR. And every true Jedi knows that strength doesn't only come from pain.
Ahsoka can still ultimately choose to forgive him and choose to focus on the good memories she still has of him, but she can ALSO choose to accept that he betrayed her and that he was a bad master. Anakin was both. He was someone who cared about her, and she DID learn some good lessons from him, but he also impacted her in ways that were decidedly negative. Forgiving him should require accepting BOTH. It's not even just "He did his best" although that gets us a LOT closer to the desired goal here, it's more like "He wasn't all bad."
I don't know, I think there could've been a LOT more complexity given to Anakin and Ahsoka and their relationship in this show and what we got was just... so so shallow. And to be honest, that's this show's biggest sin, just how SHALLOW all of it is. I'm not at all shocked that Filoni, who called Anakin the "greatest Jedi of all time", is choosing to portray Anakin in this way and sort-of... erase and gloss over his sins to just declare him a "good master." But it's still disappointing because there's so many really interesting ways this show could've explored Ahsoka and it chose none of them.
I think about that line from Rebels when Maul tells Obi-Wan "Look how far you've fallen" and Obi-Wan retorts, "Look what I have risen above." Because that's the core of Obi-Wan, right, he RISES ABOVE Anakin. He rises above Anakin's mistakes and failures, he rises above Anakin's betrayal, he rises above his losses and grief to become better than Anakin ever could. He doesn't let Anakin's failures become his own, he doesn't let Anakin's darkness drag him down alongside. And I feel like they're trying to go for something similar with Ahsoka here, but they just aren't reaching it. Because in order to have Ahsoka rise above, they first need to acknowledge that there's something there TO rise above.
I don't have any hope left in this show, it's made its stance clear and there's only a single episode left in this season. It's not going to suddenly decide to criticize Anakin NOW, and Ahsoka's already had her glow-up emotional climax like 2-3 episodes too early. This show is what it is at this point.
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