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aprillikesthings · 1 year

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The Legends of St. James the Greater [citation needed]

Because I'm doing the Camino de Santiago next spring, I've been reading stuff about St. James the Greater, because the stories around him are why the Camino exists in the first place.

And, oh my god, they're Something Else. Because nearly everything I read is either 1. extremely unlikely 2. kinda wince-inducing. at best.

I want to make it clear: I don't think it matters, at this point, how much of his post-Biblical legends are factually true, in regards to walking the Camino. People have been making sincere pilgrimages to Santiago de Compostela for so long that bits of him might as well be there, yeah? It's became a sacred place devoted to one of the first of Jesus' apostles whether his actual bones are there or not. Also, quite frankly, many of the legends aren't any more or less believable than anything in the Gospels themselves. Disclaimer over.

Things that were recorded soon enough after they supposedly happened that they are the likeliest to be true:

He was one of the first apostles of Jesus, along with his brother John. The two brothers (plus Peter) were witnesses to some of the more notable parts of Jesus' life and ministry. He was also the first apostle to be martyred; beheaded by sword on the order of Herod in 44 AD. (His beheading is in Acts 12:2, just one sentence: "He [Herod] had James, the brother of John, killed with the sword.")

After that...things get...weird.

Legend has it that he traveled all the way to what is modern-day Spain to preach the Gospel there, and that after he came back to Jerusalem and was beheaded, his body was miraculously taken by angels and set in a boat that washed up on the coast of Spain. During a wedding. Which spooked a horse and rider. Who fell into the ocean. And then emerged miraculously unharmed and covered in scallop shells...and that's part of why scallop shells are symbols of St. James and pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela. Yeah, okay.

"Oh thank God, I'm not lost." And yes, lots of people get some variation of this as a tattoo. (I know I probably will, ahaha.)

(That all said: there's an Armenian Apostolic Cathedral in Jerusalem that claims to have his head. So maybe the angels only took the rest of him. Who knows? Not me.)

At some point his relics were moved to the location of what is now Santiago de Compostela by some disciples of his (from his earlier visit to Spain? I think?), and the fact that the relics were there was revealed to a hermit by a field of stars in 814. He reported this to a bishop, who told the local king, who built a chapel on that site and is said to be the first pilgrim to Santiago. The chapel became a church in 829, the church was burned down by the Moors in 997, and in 1075 the king started building a cathedral there (it was finished in 1211). In the 900's pilgrims started arriving from all over Europe, and once the cathedral got started their numbers increased dramatically. Both St. Francis of Assisi and Margery Kempe did pilgrimages to Santiago, for instance. Margery did it multiple times, bless her.

But here's the thing: somehow nobody noticed the whole "his body is in Spain" thing until that hermit? And just coincidentally, this was a time when the Catholic church was trying to stamp out the remnants of a particularly popular heresy that had started in Spain. Just saying.

But wait, there's more!

Another thing that was happening in the 800's and for, y'know, a LONG time after (seriously it went on from 711 to 1492); was Christians and Muslim Moors fighting over Spain.

The Christians of Spain named St. James as their patron and protector, in part due his miraculous help in a battle that, uh, never actually happened. The date of the battle is given as 843 or 844, but somehow was never recorded until 300 years later. (Are you sensing a theme here, because I am.)

St. James is therefore sometimes portrayed as Santiago Matamoros, aka St. James the Moor-Slayer. A lot of medieval imagery of him portrays him on horseback, slaughtering people. 😬 Many of the old churches along the Camino include this portrayal--and some of those churches were originally mosques. Oof.

CAN IT GET WORSE? YES.

Look, I'm just going to copy/paste from the wikipedia page on this one: "The iconography of James Matamoros was used in the Spanish colonization of the Americas as a rival force to the indigenous gods, and protector of Spaniards from the indigenous peoples of the Americas. He was depicted as a conquistador."

I mean, thankfully; I won't run into much of that in Spain. But...euggghh.

Anyway.

I kinda feel bad for the actual James, who was just a fisherman working with his dad and brother before becoming one of Jesus' close friends. James was just A Guy! The other apostles apparently found him and his brother kind of annoying! He sometimes had a bad temper! The stories about him in the Gospels just make him sound so human.

There are two common portrayals of our man James all over the Camino: St. James the Moor-Slayer, and St. James as a pilgrim, wearing a floppy hat and robe and holding a walking stick. Much nicer.

Now that's a guy I'd walk across Spain for.

#camino de santiago #PLZ NOTE i am not a historian #this was literally all pulled from wikipedia #though I'd read a lot of in other places as well #st james the greater #st james the apostle #st. james

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illustratus · 1 year

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St James the Greater Conquering the Moors

by Giovanni Battista Tiepolo

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thepastisalreadywritten · 9 months

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SAINT OF THE DAY (July 25)

James, the brother of John the Evangelist, was the first Apostle to be martyred. He was beheaded by order of Herod of Agrippa.

The Gospels tell us that the two brothers left their father Zebedee and followed Jesus as soon as He called out to them.

James was one of the three Apostles who were particularly close to the Lord. He was there with the Lord, his brother John, and Peter at the Transfiguration and in the Garden of Gethsemane.

He is known as "James the Greater" to distinguish him from the other Apostle by the same name.

The title has little to do with his function or the people's regard for him. Rather, it was a term indicating that he was the elder of the two.

He is the patron saint of Spain and of pilgrims.

In northwestern Spain, he is venerated at Santiago de Compostela, a medieval pilgrimage site that is still very popular today.

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Santiago de Compostela or Compostela is the capital of the autonomous community of Galicia in northwestern Spain.

The city has its origin in the shrine of Saint James the Great, now the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela, as the destination of the Way of St. James, a leading Catholic pilgrimage route since the 9th century.

In 1985, the city's Old Town was designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

#Saint of the Day #St. James #St. James the Greater #Santiago de Compostela #St. James the Great #Way of St. James

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lionofchaeronea · 2 years

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St. James the Greater, Guido Reni, ca. 1636-38

#art #art history #Guido Reni #imaginary portrait #religious art #Christian art #Christianity #St. James the Greater #Baroque #Baroque art #Italian Baroque #Italian art #17th century art #Museum of Fine Arts Houston #MFA Houston

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twobrothersatwork · 1 month

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Ubaldo Gandolfi, Decapitation of Saint James the Greater.

#catholicism #catholic martyrs #beheading #St. James the greater #catholic saints

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yeoldenews · 3 months

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A Guide to Historically Accurate Regency-Era Names

I recently received a message from a historical romance writer asking if I knew any good resources for finding historically accurate Regency-era names for their characters.

Not knowing any off the top of my head, I dug around online a bit and found there really isn’t much out there. The vast majority of search results were Buzzfeed-style listicles which range from accurate-adjacent to really, really, really bad.

I did find a few blog posts with fairly decent name lists, but noticed that even these have very little indication as to each name’s relative popularity as those statistical breakdowns really don't exist.

I began writing up a response with this information, but then I (being a research addict who was currently snowed in after a blizzard) thought hey - if there aren’t any good resources out there why not make one myself?

As I lacked any compiled data to work from, I had to do my own data wrangling on this project. Due to this fact, I limited the scope to what I thought would be the most useful for writers who focus on this era, namely - people of a marriageable age living in the wealthiest areas of London.

So with this in mind - I went through period records and compiled the names of 25,000 couples who were married in the City of Westminster (which includes Mayfair, St. James and Hyde Park) between 1804 to 1821.

So let’s see what all that data tells us…

To begin - I think it’s hard for us in the modern world with our wide and varied abundance of first names to conceive of just how POPULAR popular names of the past were.

If you were to take a modern sample of 25-year-old (born in 1998) American women, the most common name would be Emily with 1.35% of the total population. If you were to add the next four most popular names (Hannah, Samantha, Sarah and Ashley) these top five names would bring you to 5.5% of the total population. (source: Social Security Administration)

If you were to do the same survey in Regency London - the most common name would be Mary with 19.2% of the population. Add the next four most popular names (Elizabeth, Ann, Sarah and Jane) and with just 5 names you would have covered 62% of all women.

To hit 62% of the population in the modern survey it would take the top 400 names.

The top five Regency men’s names (John, William, Thomas, James and George) have nearly identical statistics as the women’s names.

I struggled for the better part of a week with how to present my findings, as a big list in alphabetical order really fails to get across the popularity factor and also isn’t the most tumblr-compatible format. And then my YouTube homepage recommended a random video of someone ranking all the books they’d read last year - and so I present…

The Regency Name Popularity Tier List

The Tiers

S+ - 10% of the population or greater. There is no modern equivalent to this level of popularity. 52% of the population had one of these 7 names.

S - 2-10%. There is still no modern equivalent to this level of popularity. Names in this percentage range in the past have included Mary and William in the 1880s and Jennifer in the late 1970s (topped out at 4%).

A - 1-2%. The top five modern names usually fall in this range. Kids with these names would probably include their last initial in class to avoid confusion. (1998 examples: Emily, Sarah, Ashley, Michael, Christopher, Brandon.)

B - .3-1%. Very common names. Would fall in the top 50 modern names. You would most likely know at least 1 person with these names. (1998 examples: Jessica, Megan, Allison, Justin, Ryan, Eric)

C - .17-.3%. Common names. Would fall in the modern top 100. You would probably know someone with these names, or at least know of them. (1998 examples: Chloe, Grace, Vanessa, Sean, Spencer, Seth)

D - .06-.17%. Less common names. In the modern top 250. You may not personally know someone with these names, but you’re aware of them. (1998 examples: Faith, Cassidy, Summer, Griffin, Dustin, Colby)

E - .02-.06%. Uncommon names. You’re aware these are names, but they are not common. Unusual enough they may be remarked upon. (1998 examples: Calista, Skye, Precious, Fabian, Justice, Lorenzo)

F - .01-.02%. Rare names. You may have heard of these names, but you probably don’t know anyone with one. Extremely unusual, and would likely be remarked upon. (1998 examples: Emerald, Lourdes, Serenity, Dario, Tavian, Adonis)

G - Very rare names. There are only a handful of people with these names in the entire country. You’ve never met anyone with this name.

H - Virtually non-existent. Names that theoretically could have existed in the Regency period (their original source pre-dates the early 19th century) but I found fewer than five (and often no) period examples of them being used in Regency England. (Example names taken from romance novels and online Regency name lists.)

Just to once again reinforce how POPULAR popular names were before we get to the tier lists - statistically, in a ballroom of 100 people in Regency London: 80 would have names from tiers S+/S. An additional 15 people would have names from tiers A/B and C. 4 of the remaining 5 would have names from D/E. Only one would have a name from below tier E.

Women's Names

S+ Mary, Elizabeth, Ann, Sarah

S - Jane, Mary Ann+, Hannah, Susannah, Margaret, Catherine, Martha, Charlotte, Maria

A - Frances, Harriet, Sophia, Eleanor, Rebecca

B - Alice, Amelia, Bridget~, Caroline, Eliza, Esther, Isabella, Louisa, Lucy, Lydia, Phoebe, Rachel, Susan

C - Ellen, Fanny*, Grace, Henrietta, Hester, Jemima, Matilda, Priscilla

D - Abigail, Agnes, Amy, Augusta, Barbara, Betsy*, Betty*, Cecilia, Christiana, Clarissa, Deborah, Diana, Dinah, Dorothy, Emily, Emma, Georgiana, Helen, Janet^, Joanna, Johanna, Judith, Julia, Kezia, Kitty*, Letitia, Nancy*, Ruth, Winifred>

E - Arabella, Celia, Charity, Clara, Cordelia, Dorcas, Eve, Georgina, Honor, Honora, Jennet^, Jessie*^, Joan, Joyce, Juliana, Juliet, Lavinia, Leah, Margery, Marian, Marianne, Marie, Mercy, Miriam, Naomi, Patience, Penelope, Philadelphia, Phillis, Prudence, Rhoda, Rosanna, Rose, Rosetta, Rosina, Sabina, Selina, Sylvia, Theodosia, Theresa

F - (selected) Alicia, Bethia, Euphemia, Frederica, Helena, Leonora, Mariana, Millicent, Mirah, Olivia, Philippa, Rosamund, Sybella, Tabitha, Temperance, Theophila, Thomasin, Tryphena, Ursula, Virtue, Wilhelmina

G - (selected) Adelaide, Alethia, Angelina, Cassandra, Cherry, Constance, Delilah, Dorinda, Drusilla, Eva, Happy, Jessica, Josephine, Laura, Minerva, Octavia, Parthenia, Theodora, Violet, Zipporah

H - Alberta, Alexandra, Amber, Ashley, Calliope, Calpurnia, Chloe, Cressida, Cynthia, Daisy, Daphne, Elaine, Eloise, Estella, Lilian, Lilias, Francesca, Gabriella, Genevieve, Gwendoline, Hermione, Hyacinth, Inez, Iris, Kathleen, Madeline, Maude, Melody, Portia, Seabright, Seraphina, Sienna, Verity

Men's Names

S+ John, William, Thomas

S - James, George, Joseph, Richard, Robert, Charles, Henry, Edward, Samuel

A - Benjamin, (Mother’s/Grandmother’s maiden name used as first name)#

B - Alexander^, Andrew, Daniel, David>, Edmund, Francis, Frederick, Isaac, Matthew, Michael, Patrick~, Peter, Philip, Stephen, Timothy

C - Abraham, Anthony, Christopher, Hugh>, Jeremiah, Jonathan, Nathaniel, Walter

D - Adam, Arthur, Bartholomew, Cornelius, Dennis, Evan>, Jacob, Job, Josiah, Joshua, Lawrence, Lewis, Luke, Mark, Martin, Moses, Nicholas, Owen>, Paul, Ralph, Simon

E - Aaron, Alfred, Allen, Ambrose, Amos, Archibald, Augustin, Augustus, Barnard, Barney, Bernard, Bryan, Caleb, Christian, Clement, Colin, Duncan^, Ebenezer, Edwin, Emanuel, Felix, Gabriel, Gerard, Gilbert, Giles, Griffith, Harry*, Herbert, Humphrey, Israel, Jabez, Jesse, Joel, Jonas, Lancelot, Matthias, Maurice, Miles, Oliver, Rees, Reuben, Roger, Rowland, Solomon, Theophilus, Valentine, Zachariah

F - (selected) Abel, Barnabus, Benedict, Connor, Elijah, Ernest, Gideon, Godfrey, Gregory, Hector, Horace, Horatio, Isaiah, Jasper, Levi, Marmaduke, Noah, Percival, Shadrach, Vincent

G - (selected) Albion, Darius, Christmas, Cleophas, Enoch, Ethelbert, Gavin, Griffin, Hercules, Hugo, Innocent, Justin, Maximilian, Methuselah, Peregrine, Phineas, Roland, Sebastian, Sylvester, Theodore, Titus, Zephaniah

H - Albinus, Americus, Cassian, Dominic, Eric, Milo, Rollo, Trevor, Tristan, Waldo, Xavier

# Men were sometimes given a family surname (most often their mother's or grandmother's maiden name) as their first name - the most famous example of this being Fitzwilliam Darcy. If you were to combine all surname-based first names as a single 'name' this is where the practice would rank.

*Rank as a given name, not a nickname

+If you count Mary Ann as a separate name from Mary - Mary would remain in S+ even without the Mary Anns included

~Primarily used by people of Irish descent

^Primarily used by people of Scottish descent

>Primarily used by people of Welsh descent

I was going to continue on and write about why Regency-era first names were so uniform, discuss historically accurate surnames, nicknames, and include a little guide to finding 'unique' names that are still historically accurate - but this post is already very, very long, so that will have to wait for a later date.

If anyone has any questions/comments/clarifications in the meantime feel free to message me.

Methodology notes: All data is from marriage records covering six parishes in the City of Westminster between 1804 and 1821. The total sample size was 50,950 individuals.

I chose marriage records rather than births/baptisms as I wanted to focus on individuals who were adults during the Regency era rather than newborns. I think many people make the mistake when researching historical names by using baby name data for the year their story takes place rather than 20 to 30 years prior, and I wanted to avoid that. If you are writing a story that takes place in 1930 you don’t want to research the top names for 1930, you need to be looking at 1910 or earlier if you are naming adult characters.

I combined (for my own sanity) names that are pronounced identically but have minor spelling differences: i.e. the data for Catherine also includes Catharines and Katherines, Susannah includes Susannas, Phoebe includes Phebes, etc.

The compound 'Mother's/Grandmother's maiden name used as first name' designation is an educated guesstimate based on what I recognized as known surnames, as I do not hate myself enough to go through 25,000+ individuals and confirm their mother's maiden names. So if the tally includes any individuals who just happened to be named Fitzroy/Hastings/Townsend/etc. because their parents liked the sound of it and not due to any familial relations - my bad.

I did a small comparative survey of 5,000 individuals in several rural communities in Rutland and Staffordshire (chosen because they had the cleanest data I could find and I was lazy) to see if there were any significant differences between urban and rural naming practices and found the results to be very similar. The most noticeable difference I observed was that the S+ tier names were even MORE popular in rural areas than in London. In Rutland between 1810 and 1820 Elizabeths comprised 21.4% of all brides vs. 15.3% in the London survey. All other S+ names also saw increases of between 1% and 6%. I also observed that the rural communities I surveyed saw a small, but noticeable and fairly consistent, increase in the use of names with Biblical origins.

Sources of the records I used for my survey:

Ancestry.com. England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988 [database on-line].

Ancestry.com. Westminster, London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935 [database on-line].

#history #regency #1800s #1810s #names #london #writing resources #regency romance #jane austen #bridgerton #bridgerton would be an exponentially better show if daphne's name was dorcas #behold - the reason i haven't posted in three weeks

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world-of-wales · 4 months

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─ •✧ CATHERINE'S YEAR IN REVIEW : FEBRUARY ✧• ─

1 FEBRUARY - Catherine appeared in a video for Shaping Us Campaign.

2 FEBRUARY - Catherine appeared in a video with Roman Kemp as part of the Shaping Us Campaign.

4 FEBRUARY - Kensington Palace released a childhood photo of Catherine with Michael Middleton for the Shaping Us Campaign.

5 FEBRUARY - She visited St. John's Primary School to mark the start of Children's Mental Health Week 2023.

8 FEBRUARY - Catherine was received by His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of Derbyshire (Mrs. Elizabeth Fothergill) as she visited Landau Forte College along with Captain Harpreet Chandi.

9 FEBRUARY - Catherine and William were received by His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of Cornwall (Colonel Edward Bolitho) at the National Maritime Museum Falmouth in Discovery Quay. Afterwards, they visited the Dracaena Centre.

19 FEBRUARY - Catherine and William attended the British Academy Film Awards at the Royal Festival Hall where and were received by His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of Greater London (Sir Kenneth Olisa).

21 FEBRUARY - She was received by His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of the Royal County of Berkshire (Mr. James Puxley) at the Oxford House Nursing Home in Slough.

22 FEBRUARY - Catherine held an Early Years Meeting.

23 FEBRUARY - Catherine received Mr. Ian Hewitt (Chairman, AELTCC ) at Windsor Castle. Subsequently, she received Major General Christopher Ghika and Lieutenant Colonel James Aldridge (Regimental Lieutenant Colonel & Commanding Officer) of the Irish Guards.

25 FEBRUARY - Catherine and William met the volunteers and staff of the Welsh Rugby Charitable Trust and attended the Six Nations Rugby Match between Wales and England at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff. They were received by His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of South Glamorgan (Mrs. Morfudd Meredith).

28 FEBRUARY - Catherine and William were received by His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of West Glamorgan (Mrs. Louise Fleet) at Brynawel House Alcohol and Drug Rehabilitation Centre in Pontyclun. Afterwards, they visited Aberavon Celtic Leisure Centre, where His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of Mid Glamorgan (Mr. Peter Vaughan) received them. Subsequently, they were received by His Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of Dyfed (Miss Sara Edwards) as they opened the new patient room at Wales Air Ambulance in Dafen.

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clandestinegardenias · 2 months

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The first in my installment of 15-Minute fics themed around fitzier first kiss prompts, in which I give myself ~15 minutes to write a mini fic based on prompts folks send me. Depending on my own/others' reactions, I may make one or more of these full length at some point.

This prompt is from @asparklethatisblue (thank you!!)

Prompt: If you’re at all fine with smut, years of fucking while pining and someone breaks and kisses in bed? It’s such a good trope for repressed idiots with complicated emotions

Title: Complicated

James shudders out a breath and leans his head to the side, letting Francis have greater access to his neck. His breath is wet and hot, and he is–licking James, sucking on the place where his neck and shoulder meet, and it is all James can do to throw his head back against the door with a solid thunk and grapple for a hold on Francis’ coat sleeves.

His long legs are all at angles, pressed and wrapped around Francis in a confusion of longing.

No matter how many times they do this, James is always starving for it. He will never be satiated.

It is a terrible prescription for a life, to be constantly aching for something he will only ever be given in half measure. It is untenable, but so is all else life has to offer subsequent to their rescue. At least this is warm, even if Francis will not kiss him.

They’ve been fucking for…Christ, for years now.

Ever since the day of their court martial, the day they knew they were well and truly home free, and Francis had yanked James into an alley by his collar and sunk to his knees.

They’ve been at it like rabbits ever since, but it is, and always has been, a matter of need rather than desire.

Or, at least, it has on Francis’ part.

He didn’t kiss James, that first time, even though James was practically begging for it, mouth hanging open panting and staring at Francis’ lips.

It set a precedent. They do not kiss. They do not caress, or cuddle, or fondle.

They fuck.

They fuck, to disperse the frantic shimmering energy that overcomes them both when memory is stronger than reality. James tries to keep it that way, keep his heart separate.

It was a losing battle from the start.

Back in the present, Francis shocks a gasp out of James when he nips at the delicate skin of his neck, forcing his leg further between James’ own so James can rut down on it.

They don’t talk–never do.

But James–well. Francis’ hand splays over his rib cage, and Francis sucks on his neck like he wishes it was James’ tongue and James makes a mistake.

“Francis,” he groans, just that.

But one word–that’s all it takes.

The feeling of disconnection between them disappears.

Shit, James thinks, shit, as Francis pulls away from his neck, raises his head and looks James straight in the eye.

He’s ruined it, he’s ruined everything–the thin justification that their identities do not matter, that their whole arrangement is just a matter of physical desires any bloke on the street could meet, crushed into dust all at once. All by one little word, one moment of weakness.

A cold frission of fear shivers down James’ spine.

He cannot lose this–he cannot. It will kill him.

“I–,” he stutters, desperate to fix this, and Francis is just starting at him, silent and expression so shuttered, “I am sorry, Fr–, I did not mean, it was–I will not do it again, I swear, I know we don’t–that is not–”

“James,” Francis finally murmurs, and it sends a warm tingling feeling through James’ extremities, and fuck, fuck, he’s still so hard it hurts–

“Would you like it to be?,” he asks, and his eyes flit down to James’ lips, and oh. Oh.

“Yes,” James breathes, and it is the bravest he’s ever been but it sounds like he’s a dockside whore the way he’s wanton with it, fuck.

“Alright,” Francis says, soft and simple, and James is quite sure he is going to pass out. His gaze falls to James’ lips again, and James cannot help the way he is shaking apart in Francis’ arms, every breath and nerve on fire, as Francis leans in, slow and steady–

Kissing Francis is soft.

His lips are smooth, and dry, and he tilts his head so their mouths slot together better, and it is as if a susurration of doves has exploded from somewhere deep in James’ chest. He is bleeding out, and full of feathers.

He makes a destroyed, desperate noise into the kiss and throws himself at Francis–quite the feat given that they were already quite entangled, but he manages, arms around Francis’ shoulders and pressing in, opening his mouth, opening Francis’ mouth with his tongue and they last mere seconds before they are both pulling back, gasping.

“James,” Francis says, and oh, it sounds devoted, and ah–they’re both crying, now. “Are you–do you want–fuck, I have thought, all this time–”

“No, Francis, I have as well, I am so sorry, I did not mean to hurt you, I have wanted it as well, I have been half dying for you–”

Francis kisses him, again. James will never tire of it, never.

“You have me,” Francis says against his lips, “You always have.”

James kisses him, this time, and it tastes like salt and feels like a smile. It feels like the future.

#fitzier #the terror #my fic #15 minute fic #okay so it actually ended up being like 18 minutes

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aemiron-main · 4 months

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True Sight, Doppelgangers, Shapeshifter and Will’s Powers (And Why is Brenner Basically Every DND Monster in ST?)

So, I’m working on a BUNCH more posts about DND Doppelgangers and ST and greater vs lesser Doppelgangers and how that ties into the two different grey “Demogorgons” we see in ST, but right now, I want to talk about Will and Doppelgangers.

And, as we know, I already talked in this post about how the “Demogorgon” in ST is basically nothing like the DND Demogorgon, but is basically IDENTICAL to a DND Doppelganger.

And so, getting into the content of this post, while Doppelgangers CAN choose to drop their disguise/reveal their true form, it’s much harder to reveal them by force/forcibly see their true nature.

But there is one way to do this:

True sight.

In DND, there’s one way to reveal the true form of a doppelganger (specifically a Greater Doppelganger), and that’s true sight. The power that not only allows people to see into the Ethereal Plane (which is a whole other topic on its own that I have a draft on), but also allows them to reveal the true form of Doppelgangers.

So, if that grey-skinned ST “Demogorgon” was shapeshifting into people, like I think it’s been (especially when it comes to Brenner, which we’ll come back to later), then Will is basically the only person who would be able to see its true form.

Also, on the topic of True Sight, something else that’s really interesting to me is that True Sight also allows you to see secret doors.

Which would tie perfectly into what I talked about in this post re: the “secret door”/disappearing door in the Creel house, and Max and Lucas talking about a “door to a secret lair.”

I would love if, in S5, Will ended up in the current-day Creel house (the one without the disappearing door), but was able to see the door/see into the other timeline.

Which, conveniently, the giant rift/crack that went through the Creel house seems to have missed that room entirely- leaving it mostly intact. (it would be on screen left in the following screenshot, the room behind Victor’s study, and the rift seems to have gone right through the hallway/foyer, but not through that room)

Also, when I brought up this whole concept of Will and True Sight and Doppelgangers to James and Stav and Wilbur, James @henrysglock mentioned the scene from the “Papa,” script where Will recognizes Brenner:

And the idea of Will having True Sight and seeing Brenner for what he truly is in the context of all of Brenner’s weird shapeshifter/doppelganger imagery (and staring at the weird massacre “Henward” that looks and acts weirdly like Brenner) & True Sight being able to see doppelgangers for what they really are.

So, maybe that’s a.) why Will has been kept away from Brenner so much by the writers and b.) why Will seeing Brenner and recognizing him was such a big deal- maybe he wasn’t recognizing Brenner’s human face- maybe he was recognizing the “Demogorgon,”/that true “monstrous” form- maybe he was recognizing what he saw on the road that night:

I’m honestly not sure what the answer is, but I AM pretty sure that Will’s true sight abilities and him recognizing Brenner are going to tie into all of the doppelganger stuff in ST somehow.

Also, I know that in this post, I talked about Doppelgangers being more animalistic/creature-like rather than super intelligent and human, and while that’s still the case, there’s also a difference between regular Doppelgangers and Greater Doppelgangers, and True Sight is also mentioned to work on Greater Doppelgangers (that screenshot article snippet about True Sight is from the wiki about Greater Doppelgangers), and Greater Doppelgangers are far more intelligent and human-like.

This would also track with the two different grey “Demogorgons” we see in ST- we see this much more animalistic grey creature that jumps around rapidly, but then we ALSO see a far more human-like grey “Demogorgon” creature that lumbers around on two legs:

Which, you might be thinking that’s a stretch for there to be two different “Demogorgons,” but not only is it super obvious when you watch the differences in how they move, but one of them is CGI.

Whereas the other is literally played by a guy in a practical suit, explaining those more human movements:

I wont be surprised if those two creatures are meant to be paralleled to regular Doppelgangers and Greater Doppelgangers, respectively, and if whatever creature Brenner is (or whatever creature is imitating Brenner), is paralleled to a Greater Doppelganger.

So, Brenner is Demogorgon, and a Greater Doppelganger, and he’s also somehow the Mindflayer and Vecna. Great. Perfect. (im going insane)

Which, I mean, that does make sense, honestly.

Because when it comes to Brenner as Demogorgon, there’s everything I talked about in this post with Brenner and DND Demogorgon’s similarities.

And when it comes to Brenner as a Greater Doppelganger, that’s what this post you’re currently reading is about.

And when it comes to Brenner as a DND Mindflayer/as the Mindflayer, we have:

A.) TFS and scenes like Patty holding the ST Mindflayer drawing up right in front of Brenner’s face:

B.) The way that ST Vecna resembles a DND Mindflayer way WAY more than than the ST Mindflayer does (versus the Brenner-Vecna) stuff, and how Brenner and Vecna (and the weird Brenner-esque 001 during NINA) all have the personality traits of a DND Mindflayer (egomaniac, superiority complex, controlling, etc etc)

(which, I also have this old post expanding on this topic- just take it with a grain of salt every time that post says “henry” and please mentally insert 001/Brenhenryward/Brenner/Vecna/whoeever the hell this is atp)

And when it comes to Brenner as Vecna, there’s everything that James and Stav and I have talked about re: the Brenner-Vecna transformation scene and the idea of Brenner having merged himself with Henry or Edward, and all of the weird Brenner-Vecna parallels.

My point is, the DND stuff in ST is very weirdly, calculatedly, WRONG all of the time. The ST “Mindflayer” looks nothing like a DND Mindflayer but DOES resemble things like the Scalepox Cloud created by DND Demogorgon, and the ST Demogorgon is NOTHING like the DND Demogorgon, but Brenner IS like the DND Demogorgon, and ST Vecna looks WEIRDLY like a DND Mindflayer, but ST Vecna also looks weirdly like Brenner during his transformation scene etc etc, POINT IS, all roads with the “weird DND stuff that’s ‘wrong’ in ST” thing lead back to Brenner.

There’s something super super weird going on here. I wish I had more answers. I just have 10 million questions.

Why is everyone Brenner?

#stranger things #will byers #st vs dnd #martin brenner #st vecna

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tomicscomics · 1 year

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03/03/2023

Get your Son-glasses on.

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JOKE-OGRAPHY: Star Trek. Look it up. Alright, alright, so in the Bible, Jesus takes a few of His disciples to the top of a mountain and transfigures in front of them. His face shines like the sun and some other stuff happens. In this comic, Peter comments that Jesus's face is glowing like the sun, making Him the "Sun of God" as opposed to the "Son of God". "Sun" and "son" are pronounced the same in English, so... yeah... I guess that's it. One more ridiculously simple pun for the ol' Tomics records. Historians will look back upon the majesty of my work and groan.

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brainwormcity · 6 months

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Thinking about how Crowley and Aziraphale spent most of their unfettered time together, post-apocalypse, during the pandemic. Obviously they wouldn't have needed to adhere to lockdown procedures but Aziraphale would have absolutely insisted for the greater good™ and keeping up appearances (all the while complaining about not being able to dine out) and so a lot of their time together would probably have been spent in the bookshop seeing as how Crowley never bothered to get a new place.

Crowley would have totally done small miracles to get takeout crepes from France for Aziraphale and they'd have picnics in St. James's park (socially distanced from the humans, of course.) However, without the perusing people in the bookshop, Aziraphale would grow bored. Often. So he'd call Crowley even though he was always in the same area just to tell him how his day has been with Crowley listening raptly and throwing in an obligatory snarky remark every now and then.

#good omens #ineffable husbands #crowley #aziraphale #aziracrow #good omens 2 #good omens crowley #aziraphale x crowley #crowley good omens #good omens 1.5 #domestic omens #maggie good omens #good omens pandemic

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aprillikesthings · 7 months

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ofmd spoilers ahoy but

AHHHH

so glad they let Ed say that one line back at Stede, I literally had to pause it and roll around yelling

lol their awkwardness as they move so so so so torturously slowly back towards each other is so painfully familiar

oh my god the tension is so painfully well done that I am about to dive into their ao3 tag (and I've had about 0 interest in m/m fic for multiple years at this point) because I have, like, some equivalent to blue balls, fucking CHRIST

really enjoyed the mlm/wlw solidarity of Mary and Ed chatting and smoking weed

BAHAHAHA Anne and Mary's kinky relationship is so great, plus the degree to which they made fun of Ed and Stede

(as a 43-year-old woman thank you, THANK YOU, that they're not in their 20's)

unrelated to all the previous notes but I just want to be pleased that rather than the < .speaking Spanish. > bullshit they CAPTIONED THE GOD DAMNED SPANISH

if Ed and Stede don't bang soon I WILL PERSONALLY LOSE MY SHIT

#I don't even speak much Spanish that's not the point #our flag means death #ofmd spoilers #i've had some wine loolllll #(good lord my tolerance for weed has gotten higher but my tolerance for alcohol has nosedived #what can I say other than I definitely use one substance more than the other pfft)#anyway I met some lovely Spanish priests in Spain but considering the uhhhh time period and area of the world #oof #anyway true story st. james the greater was ALSO the patron saint of conquistadors #there was thankfully little of that on the camino #but it's weird to know that that priest would've ABSOLUTELY had some St James stuff on that ship 😬#poor st. james he didn't ask for any of this

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lonestarflight · 7 months

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Rollout Ceremony for the third operational orbiter, Discovery (OV-103) at Palmdale, California. On the stage is the Don Beall of Rockwell (at lectern), Dr. Rocco A. Petrone, the president of the company and the crew of her first first flight STS-41-D.

She is named for several different ships:

"The name Discovery was chosen to carry on a tradition based on ships of exploration, primarily HMS Discovery, one of the ships commanded by Captain James Cook during his third and final major voyage from 1776 to 1779, and Henry Hudson's Discovery, which was used in 1610–1611 to explore Hudson Bay and search for a Northwest Passage. Other ships bearing the name have included HMS Discovery of the 1875–1876 British Arctic Expedition to the North Pole, and RRS Discovery, which carried the 1901–1904 Discovery Expedition to Antarctica, led by Captain Scott."

-information from Wikipedia: link

At the beginning of her career, Discovery weighed roughly 3,600 kg (7,900 lb) less than Columbia due to lessons learned during the construction and testing of Enterprise, Columbia and Challenger. She weighs 6 pounds (2.7 kg) heavier than Atlantis and 363 pounds (165 kg) heavier than Endeavour. Part of this was due to the greater use of quilted AFRSI blankets rather than the white LRSI tiles on the fuselage, and the use of graphite epoxy instead of aluminum for the payload bay doors and some of the wing spars and beams.

"During her construction, Discovery was fitted with several black tiles near the middle starboard window where there should have been white tiles. It is unknown if this was the result of a harmless manufacturing mishap or done intentionally to give a distinctive look to the shuttle. This feature has been called 'teardrop' and allowed Discovery to be easily identified.

Upon her delivery to the Kennedy Space Center in 1983, Discovery was modified alongside Challenger to accommodate the liquid-fueled Centaur-G booster, which had been planned for use beginning in 1986 but was cancelled in the wake of the Challenger disaster."

She was originally intended to be the dedicated US Air Force shuttle and launch DoD payloads from SLC-6 at Vandenberg AFB but these plans were cancelled in aftermath of the Challenger disaster.

Commemorative stamp from Rockwell International (source)

Construction milestones:

1979 January 29: contract award to Rockwell International's Space Transportation Systems Division in Downey, California

1979 August 1: start long lead fabrication of upper forward-fuselage, Downey

1979 August 27: start long lead fabrication of Crew Module, Downey

1980 March 3: start fabrication aft-fuselage, Downey

1980 June 20: start fabrication lower forward-fuselage, Downey

1980 September 29: start assembly of Crew Module, Downey

1980 October 1: start fabrication/assembly of mid-fuselage, San Diego

1980 November 10: start assembly of aft-fuselage

1980 December 8: start initial system installation aft fuselage

1981 March 2: start fabrication/assembly of payload bay doors, Tulsa

1981 June 1: start fabrication of vertical stabilizer, Fairchild-Republic

1981 October 19: start fabrication/assembly of body flap, Downey

1981 October 26: start initial system installation, crew module, Downey

1982 January 4: start initial system installation upper forward fuselage, Downey

1982 March 16: mid-fuselage on dock, Palmdale

1982 March 30: Elevons on dock, Palmdale

1982 April 30: Wings on dock, Palmdale

1982 April 30: lower forward-fuselage on dock, Palmdale

1982 July 16: upper forward-fuselage on dock, Palmdale

1982 August 5: vertical stabilizer on dock, Palmdale

1982 September 3: start of final assembly

1982 October 15: body flap on dock, Palmdale

1982 December 28: crew module on dock, Palmdale

1983 January 11: aft-fuselage on dock, Palmdale

1983 February 25: forward RCS module on dock, Palmdale

1983 February 25: complete final assembly and closeout installation, Palmdale

1983 February 28: start initial subsystems test, power-on, Palmdale

1983 May 13: complete initial subsystems testing

1983 July 26: complete subsystems testing

1983 August 12: completed final acceptance

1983 October 16: Rollout from Palmdale

1983 October 28: SSME on dock, KSC

1983 November 5: overland delivery to Edwards AFB

1983 November 6: ferry flight to Vandenberg AFB

1983 November 8: ferry flight to Carswell AFB

1983 November 9: ferry flight to KSC

1983 November 15: transport to OPF and start modifications, KSC

1983 December 9: transfer to VAB for storage, KSC

1983 December 22: SSME on dock, KSC

1984 January 3: transfer to OPF, KSC

1984 January 5: SSME on dock, KSC

1984 May 12: transfer to VAB, KSC

1984 June 2: flight readiness firing of SSME, LC-39A

1984 June 25: Conduct STS-41-D, first flight, launch KSC, launch scrubbed at T-9 minutes due to general-purpose computer No. 5 disparity with primary set of general-purpose computers.

1984 June 26: Conduct STS-41-D, first flight, launch KSC, launch postponed indefinitely due to shutdown of SSMEs 3 and 2 at T-4 seconds due to slow opening of SSME 3 main fuel valve, SSME I never received a start command.

1984 July 14: rollback from Launch Complex 39-A to VAB, KSC, for remanifest of payloads

1984 July 17: transfer to OPF for reconfiguration of payload bay and for remanifest of payloads

1984 August 2: transfer to VAB and remate with SRB and ET

1984 August 9: rollout to LC-39A

1984 August 28: remanifest 41 D mission launch for Aug. 29, postponed for 24 hours for software verification

1984 August 30: launch of STS-41-D

Date: October 16, 1983

NASA ID: S84-30898

source, source, source, source, source, source

#Space Shuttle #Space Shuttle Discovery #Discovery #OV-103 #Orbiter #NASA #Space Shuttle Program #rollout ceremony #Rockwell International #Palmdale #California #October #1983 #my post

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