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unfunnystandup · 11 months

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do we think good omens is gonna queerbait? i’m curious about the general consensus.

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musclesandhammering · 4 months

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Reminder that queerbaiting is “characters in this show were intentionally & definitively advertised as being queer in order to increase viewership with queer people, when the show itself doesn’t depict the queerness advertised.”

Queerbaiting is not “these two characters seem to have lots of romantic chemistry to me & even though there has never been any explicit evidence of queerness & the creators have in fact politely denied the romance rumors multiple times, I’m convinced they’re just hiding the secret gay love agenda, and when it turns out that wasn’t the case, I’m going to absolutely crucify the creators/actors/show.”

#bbc Sherlock did not queerbait you you absolute insufferable weirdos #on the other hand #Disney+ loki series 100% absolutely did #and it has nothing to do with loki not kissing his best friend #it has everything to do with them going on press tours emphasising how they planned to incorporate #Loki’s bisexuality & genderfluidity into the story #and then turning around & having 1 vague sentence of bi rep + an absolute butchering of his gf identity #I’m so tired of yall and I’m also so tired of television creators #queerbaiting #anti johnlock #anti johnlockers #anti loki series #anti lokius #lgbt representation

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kazisonline · 1 year

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My theory is that Moffat saw an original, creative, good modern retelling of sherlock holmes and went "how about we don't do that, and instead let's just crank the queerbait meter to 11"

Edit: yes, Sherlock is queerbait. House in my opinion was like, sometimes queerbaiting, but it can be forgiven because it did not build its following on that. But Sherlock? 100% heavy fucking queerbait and you can suck my balls

#house md #greg house #gregory house #james wilson #house m.d.#hilson #johnlock #bbc sherlock #Sherlock #sherlock holmes #john watson #sherlock bbc

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catwouthats · 7 months

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“Why are you getting more and more confident about lokius??”

I was an ineffable bureaucracy shipper before it was canon.

I said “Hey look at the possible meaning behind Gabriel trying to smash a fly with the “commit adultery” Bible” and was fucking right

I am also a byler truther. (There is so much for this I’m not even gonna start)

I took a film class(es) and learned about cinematography, mise em scene, symbols and motifs!!

I used what I learned from film class (and from gender race and film class) to discover the key differences in queer coding and queer baiting. (Usually queer baiting involves more so how it is advertised and joked about. Queerness is not taken seriously and it is teased in queerbait.)

I am unofficially studying queer film rep from a sociological lens as society/viewers have changed (or is it economical since it has to do with money, supply and demand… but it also has to do with the viewers and believes?… what social science am I using-)!!

While it is definitely not 100% possible for lokius to be canon, it gets more and more possible with each episode in my eyes.

With all the symbols, parallel, cinematography, music choices, etc that go in to lokius… well it makes it harder and harder for them to deflect these meanings onto something else. (An example is how in Sherlock BBC they deflect a lot of the meanings in to “they are just partners in crime and that is ONLY reflecting that” and “it was just a joke”)

Not only that, as time goes on, less and less cinematography etc. is needed in order for a queer couple to become canon (or at least that kinda was true…). They don’t need as much build up because it is getting (or was getting) more and more accepted. More normalized, even if people didn’t “accept” it. Media does not have to code it/build up to it as much anymore. (This however is not as true for trans rep. Also, as more anti lgbt laws get/have gotten passed, we will start to see a sort of recession in lgbt rep, specifically trans rep. Very unfortunate imo, as a queer nonbinary individual.)

Considering Loki season 2 was made in 2021 (if I am correct), and written before hand, it probably will have some queerness somewhere as it was probably before many of the anti-lgbt laws.

In the least, I am confident lokius will be queer coded or “left up for interpretation” as there still is a s3 that will be coming way later. (It would suck if they pulled that though, yet it would not be super surprising.)

#loki #lokius #lokius analysis #queer analysis #film analysis #Disney #marvel #loki marvel #queer rep in media #queer media

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blatterpussbunnyfromhell · 7 months

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Did Silver kill Flint?

I keep seeing cold ass takes in the Black Sails side of tumblr that make my blood boil.

Look, I got into Black Sails in 2017, three weeks after the finale aired. Back then, there seemed to be an understanding that the "Silver killed Flint" interpretation was just a fringe theory from straight people made uncomfortable by the queer lead getting a happy ending. Personally, it was my first encounter with the phrase "unbury your gays" (having learnt "bury your gays" a year earlier with The 100). It seemed to be generally accepted that Flint lived, and that this was the whole point.

Now, it would appear that a shift has happened in the fandom, where the idea of Silver killing Flint is no longer treated as a theory by straight weirdos but as a canon, onscreen event, and these posts come from queer fans. It seems to come from younger fans who were about 12 or 13 in 2017. It's so mindboggling to me.

The arguments for this Silver-Killed-Flint thing is usually the same two: birds flying away and Silver's men turning around in the forest, as in reaction to a noise, which is interpreted as a gunshot.

Like, I'm just elaborating on a rant I sent to my friends earlier today here but, if Silver killed Flint, then :

Why would we be shown an entire sequence with one of Silver's henchmen looking for Thomas where he is?

If Thomas and Flint are dead, why aren't we shown their deaths? It's an actual rule in cinema that a character whose death isn't shown on screen isn't dead, a rule that the show does follow (we see Billy's funeral but not his corpse). Besides, Black Sails doesn't shy away from showing death on screen, even for main characters. Then, why not show how Thomas died instead of telling us? Why not show us Silver shooting Flint? The writers trust their viewers to understand the pattern, and understand that the reason we do not see their deaths is because they aren't dead.

Why would Silver bring up Thomas to Flint if he'd planned on killing him? Or if, as I've also seen it said, it was just a lie he made on the spot for Madi ?

And talking about Madi, I've seen A LOT of people saying she would never forgive Silver. And to that I genuinely have to ask, have you seen their last appearence in the show? I dont mean their argument in the cabin, I mean the scene where Silver sits on top of a hill and turns around to find Madi waiting for him on the path. I mean the scene where he walks towards her and she waits for him. So, my question here, if she wasn't gonna forgive Silver, why is she waiting for him on that hill? Nevermind the fact that Treasure Island's Long John Silver is in a relationship with a Black woman (I've seen posts saying that could be Max, and really wtf??), what is the point of showing us this scene if she's not gonna forgive him? Why not stop their arc at the cabin where she sends him away?

At the time when Black Sails' finale aired, Supernatural was still queerbaiting its audience, and Sherlock ended in a fucking shitshow. People were throwing fits over Bill Potts, Doctor Who's first ever onscreen lesbian companion because she was a lesbian with a masculine name. A year before that, The 100, a very popular tv show at the time, had just killed it's only lesbian character and faced so much uproar and backlash for it. (That was my entry into the LGBT+ community, by the way : the first character to make me think I might actually like women getting killed on screen two scenes after having had sex with the female lead). Sense8's two-hour long finale and Love, Simon wouldn't air for another year.

So yeah, if you weren't into queer media back in 2017 (and omg I sound like such an old twat), I don't think you can understand just how important that ending, with Flint being reunited with the love of his life after so much pain and loss, was.

If your interpretation of Black Sails is that the events of Treasure Island happened the way the book tells you, then I'm sorry to tell you this but you completely missed the point of the show.

#black sails #black sails meta #long post #silverflint #long john silver #james flint #thomas hamilton #james mcgraw #captain flint #ok to rb

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will80sbyers · 1 year

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You said you were involved in the Sherlock conspiracy.

Out of everyone, you should know that Bylers basically are doing the same thing as the Johnlock fandom. It is important to recognize that this behavior has its roots in a legitimate concern - lack of representation. However, it is important to realize that both of these fandom places are coming from the same mentality.

It creates myths in terms of analyzing media - such as believing showrunners would use a character's sexuality as a plot twist to catch most of the audience by surprise, and this would be progressive somehow.

we already talked about this a lot in the past in this fandom...

I was only lurking and reading stuff/ watching the videos about it for sherlock but I never 100% believed it would happen, I was still not sure because it wasn't as obvious as byler, it was a bunch of stuff you could explain differently and the writers explicitly were making fun of it

byler is not the same as johnlock or any other queerbaiting ship... the writers are not hiding it at all and there is no conspiracy like for tjlc where the writers TOLD US that it was not happening many times but WE REFUSED TO LISTEN

the situation with byler is very different

it's never taken as a joke, the actors talk about it as a real possibility, the writers have avoided commenting on it even when BYLER SCRIPT was trending on twitter!

the show NEVER makes fun of Will's feelings for Mike

in sherlock there were TONS of awful offensive jokes about it and we thought it was all because it was happening but in reality it was fucking Moffat and Gatiss two idiots assholes making fun of us for hoping it would happen!!!!

this is not the same situation

and most of all Byler makes sense for the narrative!

Mike is shown on screen acting in a way that does not make sense if he doesn't have feelings for Will too

There are parallels that can't be a coincidence, the Vickie and Robin parallel is INTENTIONAL

johnlock was very different under every way and it was on a fucking awful network the BBC when being gay was still heavily censored in TV

now stranger things is on NETFLIX in 2024

byler is happening, prepare yourself.

#byler #will byers #mike wheeler #ask

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castiellesbian · 2 months

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Sherlock was undeniably queerbait. I don’t even give a shit about the show but they 100% committed queerbait

Who's to say

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thebrokengate · 2 years

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Ok. I know we are afraid of queerbaiting regarding Byler but I really do not think it is queerbait, it's not like Destiel, Supercorp, Klance, Sterek etc. There's whole discourse and there's tons of stuff to consider. Aside from Castiel, none of the characters involving those ships were confirmed to be queer. And even Castiel's sexuality was confirmed at the last second when he literally dies right after confessing his love. And that's... it. It's malicious, and it's queerbaiting. What about the other ones? They are also queerbaiting, but the difference is that none of the characters were explicitly confirmed to be in love with one another (be it one sided or not) or were confirmed to be queer. Kara and Lena were never confirmed to be queer on the show. The show was just maliciously queerbaiting fans through implications but it never went far beyond that. With Sterek and Klance it's the same.

Byler isn't like that. We literally have a canon confirmation on the show that Will is gay and in love with Mike. And it's not Destiel style where Will's sexuality is confirmed on screen right before his death or something. The approach is clearly different here. Whereas I think that using Will's feelings to further Melvin was shit, at least they'll have to follow up and fix this mess in S5. Then we can talk about it. Aside from that, Byler isn't exactly a traditional queerbait.

Another thing is that ships like Destiel, Sterek and Supercorp were always mocked by the writers and showrunners themselves... literally. Not joking. The writers and showrunners of those shows made comments about the ships which were really problematic. They acted like fans were delusional for thinking about the possibility of those ships becoming canon. Supercorp was literally mocked by the entire cast of Supergirl. Destiel fans were treated like crazy by the writers, constantly denying the possibility of Castiel or Dean being queer. Sterek was the same as well.

Have we ever seen this sort of treatment of Byler from the writers or the cast of the show (aside from... idk, Millie's rather hilarious comments)?

I'm not saying we should trust the Duffers 100% but I also believe there is a difference between Byler and other queerbaited ships on other shows.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you. We can't necessarily claim queerbait until season 5 if the Duffers don't follow through. I've only been through a couple of queerbaits myself - J*hnlock (BBC Sherlock) and Nygm*bblepot (Gotham), namely - so this was an interesting read having not known what happened with those other ships. Stranger Things has treated Byler with a lot more care than most other shows I've seen, and I do have to commend them for that. The only real concerns I have are the Duffers backing out at the last second out of fear (which would be dumb now that they're getting more general audience rooting for Will's happiness), and Netflix turning Byler down like FOX did with Nygm*bblepot, but considering this is the last season and Netflix also has queer movies and shows, I don't really see them doing that either. Thank you for explaining to me the other queerbait ships that I've seen people mention a lot in this fandom that I knew nothing about, and comparing them to Byler, this is definitely a confidence booster. So.. this, for anyone doubting today. <3

#ask styx #byler

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postmodernmulticoloredcloak · 11 months

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Couple opinions no one asked for. To start: I am positive that Good Omens are doing romantic Aziraphale/Crowley. That said: I don’t think the screenshot is from Thee romantic kiss scene, or is any real kind of resolution to the romance arc.

I get the vibe that the story has a 3 season structure, and that means season 2 is the Empire Strikes Back of the show - act 2, the one where there is no resolution to the emotional narrative but only drama (obviously declined to the tone of the story, but still drama).

Are people going to come out of season 2 screaming and kicking because things did not go the way they expected, i.e. 100% confirmed romantic Aziraphale/Crowley? Probably. Is romantic Aziraphale/Crowley still endgame? I think so. Is the wait between season 2 and 3 be extremely annoying? Most likely.

That said - i.e. I am pretty positive things WILL go the way we wish them to, i.e. confirmed romantic Aziraphale/Crowley - I still disagree with some arguments I’ve seen (and by disagree I mean like... lowkey being eeh, not ready to pick up pitchforks, okay). First, “this is not the CW, this is x, which unlike the CW is not a homophobic trash fire” is something that reminds me of... the BBC. You know. Yeah. I was never that invested in Sherlock, at all, but back then I would have put money on Sherlock doing the think rather than Supernatural, and here we are.

Also, um. I mean this genuinely respectfully. I’m gently recommending people to avoid the kind of “ah, my favorite show is great and queer-friendly and also great, unlike the wretched Supernatural which is bad and queerbaiting and also bad” vibe, because that reminds me of what someone in fandom was doing back then before The Magicians did the thing and then they got really quiet on that front when The Magicians did the thing.

(I’m not saying Good Omens is going to disappoint!! Just that it is not a good look, regardless of how actively good and queer-friendly your favorite show is.)

#good omens #good omens spoiler #blabbering me

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stanger-things · 2 years

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My biggest worry about bylers is that right now there is this super high feeling and I am TERRIFIED for a crash. Like for me, I want to trust in my own instincts. I want to trust in the things that I have seen and the things that I know and the things that I have observed about other narratives. And that should be tantamount to anything. That should be the simplest thing in media-viewing. But in the world of queerbaiting it’s just not true. You cannot trust your instincts. You cannot trust subtext. You cannot even trust text. Because too often it’s flipped right over to cater to straight audiences and they are none the wiser because they don’t pick up on anything that any of us do. Therefore we are basically gaslighted as delusional crazy people. I started out on this website as a huge person in the bbc sherlock fandom. What people would consider a “BNF”. And I was also in TJLC (the johnlock conspiracy, but not like THOSE ones). I was 100% convinced that the very obvious textual and subtextual clues were leading to something with Sherlock and John. The level of baiting in the show was INSANE, not to even mention the stuff outside of it. Only one thing made narrative sense, and that thing was johnlock.

Spoiler alert: they didn’t do johnlock. They bent themselves into pretzels to overly bro them and gaslit all the viewers who saw the OBVIOUS writing on the wall. It was SO hurtful. To see the confidence of so many people certain of how they were reading things- BECAUSE IT MADE SENSE- only to have the narrative then slap them in the face with forced straightness for NO reason. It SUCKED.

And as a byler it worries me. I don’t want to be in the same place I was in 2017. I don’t want to be used for views then made fun of afterward. I don’t want the fandom to talk about how stupid I always was for believing to begin with.

Byler would rectify so much of that from my time in the Sherlock fandom. Or it could end the exact same way.

#stranger things #byler #Sherlock #johnlock

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wyrvel · 1 year

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⛔ Do you have a fic you started, but scrapped?

ummm, hm.

-All of my KHR stuff. Just not interested anymore even though I love the stories themselves. Most of these have been mulched into purely original OCs.

-Eternal SVSSS WIP I can't write as long as I have another project running on account of being unmedicated

-End Roll fanfic I think I finished but I didn't like the DID framing so I thought it wasn't a good idea to post

-mad scientist izuku BnHA fic with the WORSTTTT worldbuilding I was so 100% dedicated to people would not along to shit that didnt make any sense. Still fond at how confident I was with it

Some real old stuff from before 2017:

-Dieselpunk Merlin fic where Arthur comes back during an era of trains and airships

-Assorted Teen Wolf fics I decided to just scrap because I was tired of queerbaiting sterek instead of just writing about stiles and his friends

-00Q fic (sorry) (do you still love me)

-HP fic about harry's emotionless autistic transgender brother being raised by sirius black (anything I could say about this one could be expressed with any autism creature child + adult pair I've ever written since. I was establishing a bit of a brand with this one)

-Naruto isekai litfic

-Using Sherlock to explore my OC species of plant robot clones where they're grown to do manual labour but sometimes have birth defects that make them self-aware. One big allegory for autism I wasn't conscious I was making at the time

-Using Merlin to explore my OC species of plant robots (this one was funnier because they need a 'sire' to be cloned from and he has a homicidal doppleganger inferiority complex resentment towards his. Even though he's dead. lol)

-oldest one in my fanfic folder is a Vocaloid No.6-style scifi dystopia fic where Oliver is a child in a curated colony and comes across Tonio's back-alley surgery outlet in the slums.

#asks

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musclesandhammering · 3 months

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Real queerbaiting almost always has to do with an individual character’s identity rather than any romantic pairings but y’all aren’t ready to have that conversation.

#‘this show is such queerbait!’ *proceeds to talk about how two dudes didn’t kiss each other*#more often than not it’s 2 dudes the creators have said multiple times do not have romantic feelings for eachother #yet the fans always outright ignore that and act like they’ve been tricked & deceived #when like… no.. they straight up told you this gay ship wasn’t happening #& you just refused to believe them lmao #now if you wanna say ‘this was a missed opportunity to have a queer ship in this show’ then 90% of the time I’ll agree w you!#but there’s a massive difference between #‘I think this would’ve been a good chance to have a queer pairing & im bummed they didn’t take it’#and #‘I was intentionally queerbaited & these writers hate gay people’#and most of you guys are just. Unable to understand that #for example:#lokius not being canon was not qb #them butchering Loki’s genderfluidity & not acknowledging his bisexuality after specifically using it in their advertising?#that absolutely was.#destiel wasn’t qb #a missed opportunity to explore angels’ gender & sexuality? yes 100%.#johnlock wasn’t qb.#a missed opportunity to explore Sherlock’s sexuality? Definitely #yall get on my nerves screaming queerbait & crucifying creators as homophobes #just because your shitty no-chemistry-having toxic ass mlm ships didn’t go canon #after you delulu-ed & conspiracy theory-ed yourselves into thinking they would 😒#queerbaiting #fandom wank #anti destiel #anti johnlock #Loki #homophobia in fandom #johnlock #destiel

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teacup-captor · 5 months

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I'm so glad I didn't care abt anything Sherlock related until this year. I mean I think I watched the Gnomeo and Juliet movie with Sherlock Gnomes. Can't remember really. But I'm especilly glad I didn't get into BBC Sherlock until this year bc not only can I look through its bullshit beliefs and various isms and phobias sprinkled about, not only can I like emotionally handle the queerbaiting, but I can identify why I relate to Moriarty and Sherlock. Which is. SO crucial. Sherlock would've been like Sheldon Cooper but objectively worse, Moriarty would've gotten me to burn something down I swear, I would've been like 100 times more of an ass than I was

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sarah-dipitous · 1 year

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Hellsite Nostalgia Tour 2023 Day 6

“A Study in Pink”

Immediately, I like how more drawn out the opening sequence is. John is so much more of a mess than in the unaided pilot, and it looks like he’s actually trying to write in his blog

Mmmmm and the classic opening theme sequence

Man, the amount of things they cut out, like actually seeing the circumstances the victims were in and the Scotland Yard press conference.

I don’t know that I’d just let some stranger text from my phone without good reason…and not having a signal in a basement in a large city just doesn’t cut it for me, I think…

All of John’s concerns about going to look at the flat are valid and YET HE DOES STILL GO ALONG WITH IT

“Yeah, he’s always like that,” and again JOHN STILL WENT. Secret good fourth episode (or season 5) pull throuuuuugh

I’d love to live that close to a little sandwich shop

Oh and there’s the 221b I rememberrrrrrr

Is all of this queerbait-y as hell? Obviously, but am I understanding more now why people shipped it in the first place? Yeaaahhhhhhhh

What IS the cinematography in this sometimes??? It’s so odd

Also why is it night all of a sudden?? It was like early afternoon when they got in the cab

Ok. THE scene with the phone deduction. He calls it a shot in the dark to deduce Harry’s alcohol dependence, but then says that a sober person would never have those particular scratches on their phone, so now…now I think he’s an extension of the Gilmore family in Gilmore Girls or an Aaron Sorkin character: talk quickly and confidently enough and you’ll sound like you know what you’re talking about

Another difference in between the unaired pilot and this is when Sherlock talks to Anderson and Donovan. He may have been brash and blunt in the pilot, but it felt like more of a retort back to them. Here he relishes in his cruelty. Pilot Sherlock is far more human, and I think they should have kept some of that

I take back what I said about keeping the scenes of Sherlock searching for the pink suitcase. Those can fuck right off because now we’re gonna get MYCROFT.

That chat between Sally and John is…like how long do you think Moffat was just FOAMING at the mouth writing that or remembering he wrote that when it came time for The Reichenbach Fall?? Between the “we’ll be standing around a body and Sherlock Holmes will be the one who put it there” and “he’s a psychopath. Psychopaths get bored.” But that second one for Moriarty…god, he must have been insufferable to be around

Legitimately obsessed with the Mycroft and John dynamic immediately. I love that Mycroft is playing this game for his brother’s sake. This level of drama? This is not for Mycroft. It’s 100% for Sherlock, but also John is having none of it. He just got ditched by one Holmes brother, he doesn’t have time for this one’s bullshit, even if he doesn’t realize he’s a Holmes

(How am I less than half way through the episode???)

Sherlock realizing it was Mycroft after hearing archenemy. Pure sibling behavior

The restaurant and restaurant owner in the pilot were better…that restaurant was so cozy and the owner so giddy and warm and lovable. These don’t stack up…

They really do the weirdest, dumbest things with the camera sometimes. And we all thought it was brilliant at the time

I think the worst part is that this episode is actually very good…and it all ends with the travesty that is season four. It’s not above reproach, but this episode IS good

The switch to make the murderer connected to Moriarty was a good one. AND the one to make Sherlock under less duress during the game. It’s a lot more interesting if it’s about his ego

God that got long…

#hellsite nostalgia tour 2023 #it took my whole evening but I did it

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moony-rabbit · 1 year

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Once again consumed by brain rot from my own stories

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People think I use my deduction skill to spy on others and act Sherlock Holmes but it is, in fact, to keep up with my ADHD ass brain.

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Can manhwa authors PLEASE stop queerbaiting I'm very tired of seeing girls blushing around with each other with all the shoujo effect and even the "doki doki" and turns out they're just """friends"""

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I'm in a public extracurricular class in my school and this one girl just started knitting

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Just found out the most hilarious shit today guys

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spookyjarchivist · 1 year

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im so jaded about media now, like the magnus archives has ruined me in that ive tasted what it feels like to be treated as a normal human being and not a prop for woke points or someone’s heavy handed bid for acceptance like we need to parade our similarities or differences around to be seen, and i just cant go back

why would i want rewatch good omens when they did everything BUT the one piece of rep that everyone was asking for and was dangled in front of them?

why would i rewatch supernatural knowing dean and castiel are obviously in love and it will just get smacked down in some of the most hilariously aggressive homophobia ever put to screen?

why should i watch merlin for the first time knowing it will just be queerbaiting me like sherlock and teen wolf did before?

why should i finish hannibal when the creator was too chickenshit to just say he was writing a gay romance and i know it will never be finished?

why should i start watching mcu movies again when time after time they have done nothing but mock me and give false promises only rip the rug out and straight up mutilate character development for the sake of not being any kind of queer?

even in explicitly queer media written by queer people over half the time it feels like some huge performance waving a giant flag that says “we’re here!” instead of geniune representation of our community

like, i take solace in old books when it was illegal to print queer rep because at least then i know they were trying so hard for it to be as obvious as possible without crossing a line for a REASON

i keep seeing all these new shows that seem so good but then people will talk about how the main couple is super forced and you can tell it’s because they dont want to acknowledge the chemistry of the main character with another of the same gender, and dont even think of the token trans person getting anything good for them because it’s not happening

and yes i KNOW there’s good stuff out there, like ive heard about how amazing heartstopper is, but honestly i cant take another coming out story, like yeah im glad it’s there for the people who need it, but what about the people like me who dont HAVE a traditional “coming out” story? once i figured it out i knew who i was and i wasn’t afraid of it and i wasnt scared of telling people but i wasn’t just coming out, it’s just always came up naturally and ive never shied away from it,, and i KNOW that’s weird and i know people get pissed when you dont have coming out trauma but why does every coming of age queer story always gotta be a coming out story? like yeah we need more of those but we should also have the other too

anyway, tldr is that im a very tired queer and half the reason i dont consume much new media or even stick with old media is 100% bc no one writes queer people as people

also listen to the magnus archives and be prepared to find queer people being queer without it feeling like an oscar bait disability movie like love simon or overtly homophobic like supernatural

#*noodlespeaks #im not tagging this with anything bc it’s just me venting and none of these fandoms deserve this in the tags #tbh all of this goes for autistic media too

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