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mageofseven · 11 months

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Random OM! Realm Headcannons

This is a list of different headcanons I have on each realm, separated by All, Celestial, Devildom, and Human realm.

I will add to this list as I come up with more, but this is what is currently what's spinning through my head.

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All:

TBA

Celestial:

Gender & Sexuality-

The Celestial realm has specific rules on gender expression and identity. An angel is not obligated to dress in a masculine, feminine, or an androgynous way, but they are expected to keep the name, pronouns, and body their Father gave them.

The act of wanting to change their body, name, or pronouns is seen as an insult to their Father and therefore a punishable offense.

Angels are also raised to believe romantic love and any form of attraction is sinful. It is believed that these two feelings can cause angels to stray from the path given to them by placing someone before them as more dear than their siblings or worse, their Father.

Both romantic love and sex are seen as a major offense punishable by death.

This is one reason that modern angels do not reproduce like the other races; there are no parents or pregnant angels in the Celestial realm; there is only their Father and he makes new angels when needed and keeps a tight hold on the population.

Culture-

Angels follow a strict doctrine and live in accordance to the values they are born with.

Just like demons are born inclined towards various sins and vices, so are angels with virtues; no angel is born without a virtue to embody.

Angels are expected to follow their virtue strictly or are given 'mercy' by being thrown into the Spring of Life, the body of water Father uses to make His children; basically he recycles them to protect Himself from the risk of that angel dropping their virtue and adopting a sin.

Devildom/Abyssal:

Gender and Sexuality-

Gender has always been seen as more or less fluid for the demons. What's between your legs is only treated as a suggestion and used to give their children more or less a template gender.

No demon is officially seen with a solid gender till they are adults, giving the younger demons time to explore their identities and figure out how they feel about their bodies.

Modifying one's body is not only allowed, but encouraged after a certain age. Demons have a plethora of potions to help with this and teenaged demons are often found changing their bodies' forms with these.

However, this is mostly done by the average demon and such changes are rarer for demons of the higher class, whose parents feel the need to have stricter control over their children for the sake of organizing power, arranged marriages, and heir planning.

Sexuality is also very diverse in the Devildom and is seen as something that can keep changing throughout a demon's life.

Most demons have a pretty pansexual mindset, meaning they just expect everyone to have the potential to be attracted to all forms of demons.

It is still common and accepted to have demons who are heterosexual or homosexual; demon's simply don't assume the person next to them is only interested in one gender.

"Human Realm":

Origin facts-

Though it now refered to as such, it is only because the original name has become controversial.

This realm used to only be refered to as the Cradle, since it was created solely to house and protect the Devil and Father's children.

This term is now deemed controversial because it is seen as demeaning to the humans, who have always been treated as children caught in the worse divorce in existence.

Because of this, the bland but true description of 'Human realm' is the polite term for this world

#obey me lore #obey me worldbuilding #obey me #obey me otome #obey me realms

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k0k0-library · 10 months

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Random thoughts at 12 am about Obey Me! Because why not

Continuing with the realms saga, I will now rant about Zori- The second realm, Realm of the Ze Schebrach, created by your boy Zu'an.

So, here we go, the second realm takes, a bit shorter than Celestial Realm, but eh, I'll maybe update it later on.

2. The Zori Realm

Starting with the actual meaning, Zori is sunrise or sunshine time. Or something. This is due to the fact that when Zu'an cut through the fabrics of the first realm, he managed to sneak out his fellow outcasts and himself into a place that did not have light nor space, or existence. It was just pure emptiness. To give a stronger meaning to their beings- celestials who were deemed unworthy of living, too weak and insignificant, but managed to defy The Creator(s)- they named the place Zori- the opposite of what it actually was. They believed that one's darkness could be someone's light bringing. (caugh caugh, not Lucifer being named the light bringer by Zu'an, no sir).

I mentioned in the previous post that Zu'an was viewed by the other Ze Schebrach as the strongest of them all... but why? Well, Zu'an was almost spared, he was almost put in the same class as the rest of the Namoch Extra, but because of his neverending feud with The Great Demon King (he was known as Mox back then), he was not admitted into the Namoch. "As we are weak, the last thing that we need is a dispute of such calamity within us! Do not take this chance away from us, Zu...." He *had* to leave, or else things would have been terrible for the other lower classes.

He was physically strong, wielding the Kesht Klee against the hunters and most importantly, having the wit, power, and courage to go against The Creator(s) directly. With just a few arrows and a couple of wrong swings that they had against him, Zu'an managed to wear down the Lahav sal Neshma and it shattered. This was a great opportunity for the outcasts to escape.

Zu'an first made sure that every single one of his fellow outcasts was safe before he could even think of saving himself. He tried and tried again to bring back the ones that had already fallen to the blade and The Creator(s) cruelty, but sometimes you just have to live with the idea that you can't protect anyone. And this... was going to bring him into tears every single night of his existence.

Ok, ok. They got away.... what happened in the now newly created realm? IT'S NOT A *RELAM*. Not entirely, actually. Yes, I call it that, but it is not considered a realm, and neither is the realm of purity. The reason is that they do not adhere to the rules set by the Creator(s), nor do they keep contact with the three main realms. (very few encounters, 2 at best were between the humans and people of these unconsidered realms, but that is it). To be honest, Ze Schebrach couldn't care less that they are not taken into consideration for the holy creation of new worlds. Everyone is just happy they escaped.

Rapidly, Zu'an concentrated all of his mana and power to create an entire city for his people; it was small and very old-fashioned looking, but warm and welcoming. It was "like a cold bandage on a burnt leg", as someone said early on. He was chosen as the ruler of this realm by the others and he kept everything together with his mana... but it was running low. Very low.

He needed a successor and some time later, Lucifer was born. Observing him from very far away, Zu'an saw in him his younger self (boy did this lead directly to the rebellion-).

As we know now, and as current databases state, Zu'an has long passed away and the entire city is kept alive by using fragments of the shattered Lahav sal Neshma, that Zu'an's lover managed to snatch in the battle by pure coincidence.

One day, this mana power from the blade is going to run out, especially since the blade is broken and what they have is only a few mare pieces. When this happens, the city will fall into an Abbys, the Ze Schebrach becoming what they had always been destined to become- stardust in the galaxy of emptiness, mare memories of a forgotten time.

Maybe someone can save them, but time is running out, and the mana is running out. Soon, not even shambles will remain from what Zu'an tried so desperately to protect.

#obey me #obey me shall we date #swd #celestia #celectial realm #obey me realms #what the fuck do i tagg #ao3 still didnt teach me how taggs work #help im being held hostage by an oreo coockie

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devildomwriter · 1 month

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THIS ENTIRE TIME WE’VE BEEN WONDERING WHY SIMEON WAS DEMOTED

AND IT WAS RIGHT HERE ON HIS ID

He didn’t join the brothers but he covered for them and was demoted from the top position to the second to bottom position. He once got drunk and cried about being a middle-manager-type now, and he did all of that, lost ALL of that progress and hard-work for his brothers.

#obey me shall we date #obey me explanation #obey me simeon #obey me shall we date simeon #omswd #omswd simeon #obey me nightbringer #obey me celestial war #obey me celestial realm #obey me lucifer #obey me mammon #obey me satan #obey me leviathan #obey me asmodeus #obey me beelzebub #obey me belphegor

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rashomonss · 11 months

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The brothers and the Human Realm

a/n: so ik ‘jealous much’ won the poll but it’s still not done yet so have this instead!

context: a part of me still finds lessons 40-43 funny because the brothers have never really been to the human world that much, and they don’t really know how certain things work. Take the slow cooker and ice cream truck for example. So these are little headcanons I have for when all of y’all are together in the beginning of their stay in the human realm.

enjoy <3 , also these are in no specific order

you all are hopeless…

Solomon and MC would so fuck with the brothers while being in the human realm.

For example they’d take Lucifer to the shadiest mexican restaurant possible then after they finished eating they would tell the waiters it was Lucifer’s birthday and watch the Avatar of Pride sit there with a big ass sombrero on his head as they sang happy birthday to him.

MC later took a picture and sent it to Diavolo who then made it his lock screen.

Satan and Belphie tried to electrocute Lucifer by throwing a toaster in the bathroom while he was in the middle of a shower. This happened after the fact you told them not to put water on the toaster because it could electrocute someone.

Beel ate an entire bottle of ibuprofen liquid gels because he thought they were hard gummies.

Beel also ate the food and cake shaped wax candle melts you had bought for Asmo as a gift

Beel lastly ate your whole brand new container of melatonin and it knocked him out for 15 hours straight. Needless to say Lucifer was very concerned for his wellbeing, and Belphie soon questioned if you had anymore.

Belphie and his brothers were never taught stranger danger, because who in their right mind would be a danger to them in the Devildom?

So after you had explained to him what an ice cream truck was he vowed to go to one with you.

However when a creepy old man in a white van offers him candy he believes it to be the same as the ice cream truck so he gets in the van.

When the brothers relay this information to you, you begin to lose your shit explaining how that was not in fact an ice cream truck he got into but instead a kidnapper van.

The brothers don’t know how to eat certain human world foods.

Such as a banana, watermelon, mango, pineapple, kiwi, avocado, cherry, dragon fruit, papaya, onion, etc.

So when you first buy one from the grocery store and leave it out before cutting it they automatically think it’s some weird shaped human food and bite into it eating the skin or seeds and all.

After they tell you about the weird but delicious taste of it you ask if they cut it or spit out the seeds before eating it, and when they reply with a puzzled look and a no your heart drops.

Thank god they’re demons. You then proceed to buy the same thing again this time cutting it up in front of them so they know what parts to eat of certain things.

Expanding on the cherry part, did y’all’s parents ever tell you not to swallow watermelon or cherry seeds because if you did a cherry tree or whole watermelon would then grow in your stomach??

I know mine and some of my friends parents would tell us that when I was younger to make sure we didn’t swallow any seeds.

If they didn’t then oh well, anyway…

Continuing with Solomon being an ass, he would so tell something like that to the brothers. If he happened to see Beel swallow a cherry whole he would then proceeded to tell Lucifer not to let him do that.

And when the oldest asks why Solomon would then go onto explain that if he swallows cherry pit then a cherry tree will then grow inside his stomach.

Of course this freaked out Lucifer so for the next hour he tried getting Beel to spit out all the cherries he ate.

You would have to organize their fridge and pantry in the new house because they don’t know which human world foods need to be refrigerated or not.

After you arrive at the house you spent a good three hours explaining to them not everything can go in the pantry because some of it will spoil after you open it.

Then you proceed to gag when you pulled out an expired chunky milk container from the pantry.

They find the concept of drive thru or fast food places astonishing. The fact that you can just order wait in a line for a few minutes in your car then get your food is crazy. They do however all panic though when you get to the front and they don’t know what to order off the menu.

Car washes are also something they found themselves favoring. You would turn up the music as you slowly pulled in and joked by telling the brothers you were going on a ride of sorts.

Which in turn shocked you when they did believed you as the car wash stared. Each of them were staring out the windows with starry eyes as different colors of soap were thrown on your car.

You laughed to yourself as they all admired the way the soap blended together, Asmo and Mammon found themselves taking pictures of the whole thing. While Belphie was telling Beel how this looked like a starry sky.

And Levi went on to tell Satan how this reminded him of an anime scene. Lucifer also found himself sitting quietly in the passenger seat enjoying it too. (Lucifer is a certified passenger princess, fight me on that)

Each brother questioned you on how this was possible and you replied with smile. After the car wash was over and you drove through the dryers they all asked if you could do that again, to which you replied smiling “maybe some other time”.

Lucifer watered the fake succulents and plants you put around the house for two weeks straight until you said something.

They love watching true crime documentary’s to the point you’d have to physically pull them away from the tv.

It happened one afternoon while a few of them were relaxing in the living room and you were looking for a channel to watch.

Deciding there was nothing interesting on you put on an old true crime documentary and began watching it. As the brothers heard the story of the crime from the tv they each became immersed in it.

Telling you things such as “how could humans do that to each other?” or “wow humans are more brutal than we thought” or even adding in their own comments on how they could have made the crime worse.

It became a guessing game between all of them to figure out who killed who during each episode you watched.

Much to everyone dismayed Satan was the one who won every time.

Meanwhile while they were all immersed in the tv you noticed Lucifer standing behind you, arms crossed also watching tv. You told him to sit down and watch with all of you but he denied, claiming he wasn’t really interested in stuff like this anyway.

Yet he never moved from that same spot each episode.

Each of the brothers have made something explode in the microwave.

Lucifer stained it red when he went to reheat pasta, but he put it in for to long and it exploded. Mammon overfilled his ramen thus causing it to leak then explode.

Satan and Levi also happened to be reheating takeout at the same time, but both of the containers were styrofoam and exploded. Levi got annoyed and Satan threw the microwave at Lucifer.

Asmo put some skincare product in there because he found something online about a certain hack, and it exploded causing the microwave to smell like burnt strawberries.

Beel put too much food in the microwave causing it to all melt together then explode.

Belphie put a coffee in there to reheat and it exploded, but he was too lazy to clean it up so he just left it. Lucifer was then next to use the microwave and got coffee all over him.

You made all seven of them watch the entire twilight series as a joke but ironically they all actually enjoyed it.

Satan even went out and bought the books, and finished all of them in about 2 hours

Bonus

Solomon distracted Diavolo for 3 hours straight by making him watch 5 minute craft videos.

Diavolo then proceeded to break things to try these said crafts which caused Barbatos to have a meltdown.

Barbatos destroyed an entire sidewalk because he saw two rats run across it into the sewer.

#obey me #obey me shall we date #omswd #omswd headcanons #demon brothers #obey me luficer #obey me mammon #obey me leviathan #obey me satan #obey me asmodeus #obey me beelzebub #obey me belphie #obey me solomon #obey me mc #obey me headcanons #obey me human realm

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jabberwockprince · 5 days

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made a gdocs OC sheet for Obey Me, since most of the templates I've seen are for artists and the doc templates are just simple txt files. as usual, it's meant to be for ppl like me who love to add a LOT of text <3

It's here if you'd like to use it! Remember to make your own copy -> File -> Make a copy!

#obey me #obey me shall we date #obey me nightbringer #obey me oc #obey me MC #purinsu sheets #raphael mephisto and thirteen dont have rooms #so i put whatever felt appropiate #i havent. actually met raphael in the game lmfao so no clue what was appropiate #i picked some fuckin pic that was from the celestial realm

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zephyrchama · 1 month

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I wonder if humans and demons in Obey Me! might have different taste receptors and experience taste slightly differently. Not for all things, but for really random stuff, like how some people irl enjoy cilantro and others think it tastes like soap.

Lucifer trying to pridefully power through the dinner MC made for him and failing because he's already gone through five drinks trying to mask its taste, and MC is getting suspicious.

"What is this incredibly sour vegetable? I've never tasted anything so... acrid."

"You mean the sweet potato? Are you saying this sweet potato is what's making your lips pucker?"

"There's absolutely nothing sweet about this potato."

#I think it'd be really sad if things they enjoyed in the celestial realm tasted different once they became demons #WOAH yall are fast! I went to proofread this and maybe change “sharp” to something else (acrid?) but y'all already reblogged it. thank you!#I should sit on my posts and think about them before slamming the post button jgsdjkhg very glad to see it's enjoyed though - many thanks!#its been 4 hours since posting #im gonna do it im gonna change sharp to acrid. please enjoy two versions of this post existing #obey me #obey me!#obey me headcanon #obey me scenarios #obey me ideas #omswd #obey me lucifer #obey me shall we date #om lucifer #obey me hcs #obey me hc

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humbuns · 1 year

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birds of the same feather?

#obey me!#obey me lucifer #obey me luke #perhaps i'm putting a lot of thought onto luke but i was thinking about how conflicting luke must have felt knowing the image portrayed of #lucifer based on the celestial realm to the actual lucifer he meets #i do think it's interesting how softer he is in nightbringer so while he might seem imposing it's just not on the same lvl to what he expec #'he is your kindred but you are suppose to hate him for what he became since it's in your nature' type of deal #anyways weirdest uncle award goes to lucifer #← the only thought running in his head atm is that luke reminds him of his brothers but he doesn't want to admit it (too personal)#anyways this won't make sense w/o these tags so sorry lmao #doodles

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melverie · 2 months

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Listen, if you were to push Lucifer down on his back, then pin his arms above his head and sit down on his stomach as you smirk down at him, he WILL short circuit so hard that his pride will be temporarily deleted from his brain

For the next century or so, his gaze will continue to hold nothing but complete and utter reverence for You and only You. He will look at You like You are beauty and holiness and perfection incarnate, as if the only purpose of the stars decorating the night sky above—and by extension, the only purpose of the morning star himself—was to bear witness to Your allure and charm. To the brilliance of Your existence

Compared to You, his father has been nothing but a false idol all this time

Also if you lie down on his chest & raise your head just high enough that he can't kiss you he will start to vibrate at 900 miles per hour proof: I'm the skeleton in Luci's room

#what i'm trying to say is: he's a switch at best guys #also i would like to remind everyone that luci's brain had to do a factory reset when mc called him cute once #so the above is entirely in the realm of possibility #also hi i hope people do realize that 'you' being capitalized while 'father' is not is a stylistic device & that it carries meaning #obey me #obey me lucifer #mel's starry musings

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lvlcurrent · 11 months

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his 8[ face is so funnycute

#luke #obey me #also why did they send luke to the devildom in nightbringer its like the celestial realm is begging for another war #like hes there @ the most stressful time+ has everything going against him. i think its funny he's in this position tbh

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journey-to-the-attic · 30 days

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the rest of the cast got their new song covers, so i wanted to try putting the others in a band :>

i did want to make it look a bit like an album cover but i have no idea how those are designed so eh?? i also couldn't think of any band or album/song names so. if anyone has any ideas...

#art #obey me #obey me raphael #jtta ik #obey me mephistopheles #obey me thirteen #from left to right they are: lead singer/rhythm guitar - drummer - lead guitar - bass #tbh any of them could've taken any role but bassist girl thirteen spoke to me and raph canonically sings well so that felt like it fit #i did consider ik as lead but she'd absolutely shred on the drums. she has so much pent-up rage to let out...#in context this is for a music festival diavolo's putting on but it'd be a fun au as well #i like to think thirteen is the overwhelming favourite of all the fangirls #also in terms of band name...#i was thinking something based on the fact that there's one of each species (human/demon/angel/reaper) but what word can i use for that #jo has suggested something involving the numbers 3 and 4 for 3 realms and 4 members #3.4HZ Harmony was the best we could come up but it feels like there should be a sorta other-world element to it #then again if it's an au then i guess they'd all be humans anyway #ah whatever #life and work related obligations have been growing so naturally i've been starting a bunch of creative endeavours to try to get away from #is this a long term good thing for future career prospects? probably not. but i'd rather be happy

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luxthestrange · 1 year

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Incorrect quotes#823 Baby Momo

Young!Mam: Alright baby bro it's time for bed *Throws 3 y.o Asmo over his shoulder to the bed but in slow motion while making sounds like a plane is crashing*

Asmo*giggling hugging Mammon*

Young!Mam*stops mid-throw*Wait wait, just to be safe *pulls out a toy grenade from his pocket*incase there are any monsters down there [throws the grenade outside the room*

Mich: AAAAAHH WHAT THE FU- *frantically trying to find out who hit him in the face*

Asmo*Shrieks happiIly*

---Present Time---

Mam: Back then I was taking more of a role to care for the little ones to give Lucifer some free time

Mc*Is holding back tears*Iloveyouguys-

We all know Mammon is indeed the best big brother...

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inhuman-obey-me · 5 months

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The Authoritarianism of "Father's" Celestial Realm (NB Season 2)

OKAY, life got crazy for a while, but we're finally all caught up on Nightbringer's main story, and PHEW we've got some things to talk about. So let's dive right in, starting with one of our favorite topics:

God and the Celestial Realm actually kinda suck in the OM universe!!!

(spoilers up to NB lesson 38!)

Now, this been a consistent pattern for most of OM's story and lore, but we're going to be focusing here mostly on Lessons 37 and 38 in particular this time, because they had a lot to talk about in that regard.

In Lesson 37, we are introduced to the underworld, specifically Cocytus at the very bottom layer of it.

One interesting note, however, is that this region is territory of the Celestial Realm, despite it being geographically in the Devildom, and the Celestial Realm is the one that doles out punishments relating to it -- usually. We'll dive more into that whole conspiracy in another post, but it's certainly an interesting geopolitical fact of the Three Realms.

As for the underworld itself, the idea of multiple layers of hell is a common one which originates from Dante's Inferno, the first section of the Divine Comedy, and we see that Cocytus here is taken pretty directly from that as well. Just like Dante describes in the Divine Comedy, Simeon informs us that there are four regions that make up Cocytus, made up of four concentric circles of growing intensity according to their corresponding offenses. Specifically, each layer of Cocytus is related to a type of betrayal: of family, of homeland, of guests, and finally, as the very worst type of betrayal, of "him".

The design of that is immediately very telling about how the Celestial Realm views these offenses. Other offenses may land a person in the underworld in general, but these specific types of betrayal are the worst. And among those worsts, betraying God is the ultimate offense, absolutely beyond anything else one could ever do.

Now, these levels of Cocytus almost directly match Dante's Inferno take on them -- with one major, interesting distinction. In the Divine Comedy, Judecca is for "traitors to masters and benefactors." In OM, it is traitors to "him." Considering that the rest of the levels are a direct match, this suggests that, in OM, their father is the master who must never be betrayed.

And as Mammon notes, that's exactly what our beloved demon brothers did, with Lucifer in the lead.

That brings us to the present situation, with Lucifer chained and suffering at the very center of the bottom of the underworld. The worst of the worst offenders.

Simeon, Luke, and MC arrive to find Lucifer in a screaming rage, noting that same fact. Lucifer is in such pain and rage that he's creating dangerously massive gusts of wind, and as he worries about MC and then his brothers, it only gets worse. Suddenly, Raphael appears to read Lucifer his charges. And then, we get this conversation:

There's a lot going on there, but to go piece by piece, Luke is obviously distraught upon hearing the brothers' decreed fate. He wants to protest it and argue against it. Simeon stops him because Luke absolutely must not say another word -- as a reminder, arguing against Lilith's punishment was the catalyst for the whole rebellion that ensued, which is the entire reason Lucifer is being punished like this now!

Simeon, however, has recently been demoted. We know he was a seraph at the time of the rebellion; the official Nightbringer website specifies that he was demoted for "covering for" the brothers, though we don't know the specifics of what happened there. Simeon has always been a little daring on speaking truth to power, and considering he's already been demoted, it seems he's willing to take the potential consequence of speaking up again here. So he does, expressing his questions and concerns about the whole situation going on. And, finally, he calls out Raphael on also feeling the same as he and Luke both do.

It is perhaps the most telling moment we've gotten to date of how Raphael has felt about this whole civil war between the angels. In the past, he's been fairly consistently strict about the Celestial Realm's rules, which essentially boil down to always obeying their father, and Michael by extension. And he holds himself to basically the same standards, obediently doing whatever Michael tells him to even as he's disgruntled or frustrated by the myriad requests. But when it comes to seeing Lucifer punished this way, he can't accept it either. It's wrong, and he knows it.

But he can't question decisions that come from on high. Even doubting is considered wrong.

We've heard the same from Lucifer once before -- that he questioned one who was never to be questioned. That is what he has been punished for.

This is the reason Luke must not speak up. This is the reason Raphael is crying. And it's the reason for Lucifer's current punishment. Simeon, Lucifer, and Raphael all know it implicitly -- what comes from on high is absolute. Questioning is unacceptable. Doubts are unacceptable. And rebellion is unacceptable -- the absolute worst thing that someone can do.

Anyway, now throw all that out though, because apparently Lesson 38 wants to attempt to bring us to a completely different conclusion!

Let's be honest here -- OM is a bit jumpy on its writing sometimes, and sometimes makes wild left turns. But we ended Lesson 37 feeling pretty excited because it's revisiting a common theme we've had hinted at throughout both games about what kind of leader their father is and what kind of place the Celestial Realm really is under him. And what we've seen, generally, is this: it is a very strict place, unforgiving of those who step out of line, where their father's word is absolute, and even feeling doubt is a grave offense. We even know that Simeon's greatest fear is their father!

So imagine our shock and disappointment when Lesson 38 suddenly decides that, no, actually, this punishment and everything else is actually God's love for them. What?!

New theory: exactly one person on OM's writing team is actually super religious and keeps trying to make this game about dating demons into a message that God is good. These lessons were not written by the same person.

Lesson 38 starts with a rather chaotic scene -- Lucifer has broken free of his chains and is lashing out in rage and despair, not thinking straight. Diavolo makes his appearance and tries to subdue Lucifer, though the two end up going into an all-out brawl as Lucifer lashes out at Diavolo as well. MC eventually intervenes and the brothers show up to protect MC from both Lucifer's and Diavolo's attacks. Lucifer is taken aback seeing that his brothers are all okay and present in front of him, and as MC approaches him to further calm him down, the Ring of Light glows and Lucifer momentarily transforms into his angel form, inspiring awe from everyone around at the sight of the Morning Star once more.

Earlier, Lucifer was begging to be shown some kind of sign from his father, of what it was that he wanted from him. Simeon comments that this might be Father answering that call for a sign -- a sign of his love. Lucifer seems to accept this, though with some bewilderment. But we have Lucifer straight up tell MC later in the lesson that he "must have forgotten" that Father loved them all along! That all he ever did was give, and never ask for anything in return!

Except for blind, unwavering loyalty. Something that Lucifer has actually forgotten about in this moment.

For that matter, why does Simeon automatically assume it's this grand sign of their father's love?! He himself just stated his own doubts and called Raphael out on his.

It's a huge 180 that gave us some intense whiplash for sure. But this isn't the first time we've seen that more religious trauma view from Simeon; we've seen it before in OG season 4, where he has obviously been deeply affected by being demoted out of being an angel altogether but tries to reassure himself that their father does everything for a reason, "even this."

However, even aside from the very sudden turnaround, this explanation leaves a lot to be desired, because it doesn't actually answer anything!!!

We just got told that Raphael was crying from the cognitive dissonance of obeying orders to read the charges against Lucifer while feeling deep down in his heart of hearts that this is wrong. Luke has been stopped from saying anything that could be construed as going against their father! Even harboring doubts is wrong, but somehow we are supposed to suddenly believe that it's because their father loves them?

If that's God's love, it's sure sounding like God is an abusive helicopter parent, because that's not a healthy loving relationship.

Think about it -- this is a scene of punishment. Lucifer isn't just chilling down here for fun; he is actively in pain when we find him, and it only escalates his torment at the thought that his brothers are being punished similarly. And even as we are told that Little D. No. 1 couldn't take material form because their father "just loved them so much," is it really a healthy form of so-called love to hold on to a piece of Lucifer's soul without his knowledge, even after casting him out?! We wouldn't say that a parent who throws their own child out to be homeless while keeping their old room intact is a good, loving parent; why should we think this is any different?

Plus, this is the case for Lucifer -- but what about the other brothers? Though they all managed to get free, Cocytus itself seemed prepared to punish each of them for their various transgressions, and as Mammon points out, all of them were guilty of treason against their father. Yet, it's only Lucifer whose Little D. was never able to take form. It is Lucifer specifically who is targeted for this Cocytus punishment, and the others would likely have been left alone if not for the fact that they came to save him. Lucifer is the one who, for that one moment, regains his angel form.

And what does this mean, if this is God letting go of the last of his grip on Lucifer? That he still loved his favorite son but is casting him away for real now? We know Lucifer has said that God would never forgive him in particular, and though he's been accused of just being stubborn himself (and make no mistake, Lucifer certainly is also stubborn too), it does seem in line with everything else we've been shown about their father. Does this mean that their father no longer loves Lucifer, from this specific point onwards?

And, if their father loves them so much -- then why did they need to rebel for Lilith's sake? The implication here is truly bizarre: their father was going to obliterate Lilith entirely from all existence so that not even her soul would remain, but he also just loves Lucifer so much, but is also so authoritarian that Lucifer trying to talk it out with him was met with a complete shutdown so that Lucifer felt he had no other choice but to start the war. Of course, conveniently, this lesson also just chooses to completely disregard the whole Lilith thing, both her existence at all alongside the brothers before the war and her punishment, so apparently none of that matters!

It's completely out of line with the rest of everything we've ever really been told about the Celestial Realm, and frankly, we don't like or accept it. This so-called love that's suddenly used as the explanation in Lesson 38 isn't a true or healthy kind of love, and we don't want it.

So in conclusion: God is gaslighting us but he really does totally actually suck. We're just supposed to suddenly believe now, out of nowhere, that he doesn't. But he definitely, really does.

Anyway so, Lesson 37 is 10/10 and 38 is -10/10, would not read again. Merry Crisis!

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