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shippingfangirl013 · 1 year
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Some S4 Soundtrack analysis that led me to some interesting discoveries (Part 1)
I’ve been meaning to post this for a while now, but after digging (and I mean DIGGING through the soundtrack and all of the music played in all 4 seasons, I finally found some interesting inspiration for the show.)
First up, a track called “The Box” that plays when Jonathan and Will have the talk at Surfer Boy Pizza.
This track has legitimately driven me insane because @chirpsythismorning mentioned it to me a few weeks ago while I was on vacation… and I took that time off and ran with it for analyzing. . .
So, what I found was that the track “The Box” actually comes from a very interesting silent Sci-Fi / Fantasy short film written by an incredible team of deaf artists! It’s about 20 minutes long, and it’s a rather powerful film.
Here’s the link if you want to watch it!
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Anyways, I thought it was rather interesting that “The Box” was playing when Jonathan and Will have their talk and Will doesn’t remember having a Lego stuck up his nose…
The shots in Mather that felt very much like it inspired a lot of the ideas surrounding Vecna and where NINA was placed in the show…
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Now, a lot of these shots caught my eye while watching the short film…
But something else that is important to note is the description of the film itself…
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It’s interesting, watching the main character battle within himself and there’s some odd flashbacks, almost, that he has that aren’t able to be explained within the context of the movie, they just occur - it’s one of those things that just is.
And after watching, I looked up the filming location for Mather… and it is Coyote Dry Lake in Barstow, California.
But I noticed that the shots and the blocking in Mather looked familiar to me because of these shots:
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They didn’t film at the same place, but the setting and what they borrowed from the film Mather (2019) was intentional.
Anyways, “The Box” plays when Mather finds the seeds (I believe). It was kind of hard to pinpoint the music.
I’ll add more to this once I get more screenshots, but for now, I’m leaving this as is and I’ll edit it with updates later.
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atopvisenyashill · 3 months
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why do you think jonsa is happening tho? jonerys is different bc they are going to be enemies, but i don’t see what jonsa does for the story
so let me first lay out roughly what i think is going to happen should jonsa become canon. I personally love going down meta and graphic spirals, so I'm including links to other people’s theories/explanations/graphics of events too - also I would like to shout out @istumpysk because half these metas and gifsets were stuff I found on their blog initially, and also was the one who really convinced me that jonsa is less of a crackship and more of a contender for an actual canon theory, and from there i really found my niche in this fandom. specifically this meta about jon being the mummer's dragon is what pulled me out of my "we're never getting twow and if we do it's just gonna be that stupid dany has jon's magical baby while tyrion watches, then they all die theory" slump and lit my brain on fire again. let's goooo:
The Ashford Tourney Theory - Something Shady goes down at the tourney Petyr has planned that requires Sansa to make a quick getaway, and likely causes her to run into Brienne while fleeing. This theory for me is about hinting at Sansa's romantic future, allies, and how she's getting the hell out of the Vale: both the dark haired, Not Targ Looking Targ Prince that is the son of A Great Prince That Never Was being her romantic endgame but also it's about Brienne (/Dunk) getting her the hell out of there and becoming Sansa's number one ally and protector (with Sansa's number two being Bronze Yohn!! But he's not fleeing with her - if he helps her get out of the Vale, it'll be to cause a distraction or a fight so Sansa can slip away unnoticed. Bronze Yohn is coming with the knights of the Vale later to help defend his girl!).
The Girl In Grey - Out of options on where to go, Sansa & Brienne makes a long, fast, and dangerous trek to the only family she knows is still alive: Jon Snow at the Wall. No, I don't think Alys Karstark is the girl in grey on a dying horse; I think she's a red herring, the same as the scene where Sweetrobin destroys the snow castle, and that the real girl in grey (who slays the savage giant) is Sansa. Melisandre says that she sees "Jon's sister" but doesn't specify more than that, or how she knows it's Jon's sister, even - why would she assume Alys is Jon's sister and not some random Northern girl? Why was she so sure that it was his sister? It's because Alys isn't the girl in grey, it's Sansa, her horse dying because she's traveled halfway across the continent with Brienne and Pod, desperately trying to keep ahead of the dozens of people hunting her down.
The Blood of Winterfell - Sansa and Jon will reclaim winterfell together. This one is similar to above; just like Alys was a red herring, the scene where Sansa rebuilds the castle has a lot of foreshadowing (imo) but that isn't the moment in the prophecy Arya hears. The Savage Giant is Littlefinger, the castle of snow is Winterfell, and Sansa is going to liberate her home alongside Jon and what's left of the Northern lords.
Stone and Snow Remains - THIS is where Sansa and Jon will fall in love while fighting for the North. This is also the part where you lose a lot of people, because they think the evidence is real weak sauce but like, I also think the Jonerys "evidence" is weak af too (and no wonder, we have at minimum 2k pages left to get through!!). There's several believed foreshadowing points to this one, bare with me for this weird ass formatting because I can't do sub bullet points on tumblr:
1. Sansa's linking of snow with love and affection - "drifting snowflakes brushed her face as light as lover’s kisses, and melted on her cheeks...She could feel the snow on her lashes, taste it on her lips. It was the taste of Winterfell. The taste of innocence. The taste of dreams." along with her snow maiden and snow knight.
2. Bael the Bard and the Rose of Winterfell - the chapter where Sansa gets her period for the first time, Cersei refers to it as “flowering” a dozen times, linking being a maiden (a young girl, not quite of age or just barely of age) to flowers and several people refer to sex as ~plucking. Also notice the one who stole her from KL is Lord BAELish.
3. Aemon the Dragonknight & Queen Naerys - Sansa compares herself to Naerys, Joffrey to Aegon, and wishes for an Aemon, among the many similarities between her life and Naerys'. Jon not only calls himself Aemon, he has a deep connection with a different Aemon Targaryen. And if you’re thinking “Sansa isn’t Naerys, X is Naerys” I would remind you that Sansa as a character existed first, George purposefully had her compare herself to Naerys, and parallels don't belong to just one character.
4. Jenny of Oldstones and The Prince of Dragonflies - there's honestly a lot of parallels between them but like the Aemon/Naerys parallel, the Jenny/Duncan one stands out to me.
5. Janos Slynt - I mean. Iconic. This was the scene that made me first think about what their relationship could be in the future and there’s a reason Jonsas fixate on it. It’s about Sansa being desperate for a hero and the hero she dreamed about being Jon the whole time. 6. Societal Alienation - There's the bastard parallels here, the "it would be so sweet to see him again", the "Winterfell belongs to my sister, Sansa." It's about how Jon, through circumstances of his birth, finds himself alienated from the rest of society and reconnects with his prim and proper sister Sansa, who finds herself alienated from the rest of society as well but for vastly different reasons.
Robb’s Will - Howland is going to show up in the North, along with Maege and Galbert, with some WILD news about why Jon can’t rule Winterfell. There’s a lot of contention around this. Bran probably shows up around this time too, and Arya gets to the Riverlands to discover Lady Stoneheart and give her the gift of mercy. This is where all the inheritance stuff is going to happen and I have no idea how it's going to go down besides it's going to be messy as all fuck.
The Pact Of Ice And Fire - Jon & Sansa get secret married bc they’re in love, not siblings, & jon is the only man she trusts not to steal her claim. This isn't the only possible foreshadowing instance of a marriage either - some believe the Sandor/Sansa scene during the Battle of the Blackwater is foreshadowing as well (personally I feel that's a bit of a stretch but I wanted to include it anyway).
Jon As An Envoy - I talked about this in my "what's Jon's ending" a little but I believe Jon will act as an envoy for either Sansa or Bran to Aegon VI, essentially playing out a similar story that he does in the show with Daenerys. By which I mean, Jon is not the King because the ruler themselves do not go as an envoy, that’s stupid and dangerous, but he goes as an ambassador for Sansa or Bran, to treat with a new claimant to the Iron Throne that is gaining support - Aegon VI & Jon Connington. They will probably clash, Jon will probably have yet another identity crisis, there had BETTER be gay incest subtext, then Aegon dies, and Jon has his sixth quarter life crisis in a row.
“King” of the Gift - again, something I touched on in my Jon meta is that I think he’s going to have a hand in resettling the Gift. Personally, I think it's likely that Jon leaves to protect the claims of his siblings (see: Duncan and Jenny) and goes to the Gift to help resettle it to keep out of the way. This ending is typically referred to as the "bael the bard" ending but i like to think of it as the "brandon's gift" ending instead - though he is not physically with his family, Jon feels fulfilled having confirmed his family loves him through reclaiming Winterfell and marrying Sansa, being reunited with Arya, and being given the Gift by Bran. Sansa claims her children were fathered by a wolf.
So…what does all this do for the story?
Well, in my opinion, several things.
I think the main barrier here is that most people in the greater fandom describe Sansa's story as ~growing past childish wants~ and Jon's as ~rejecting love~ and I do not agree with either of those takes even a little bit. This is where (imo) the dividing line between Jonsas and the rest of the fandom is. I don’t think the answer to Sansa’s question “will anyone ever marry me for love” is going to be “nah" - that's not just a sad story to me (wanting to be married isn't childish! craving intimacy and understanding isn't childish! it's also not wrong for a child to be childish!), I think the idea that Sansa (or Jon) will not find another love just doesn't line up with how George approaches his story. Who Sansa's husband will be has been such a big question, and her story is so heavy into the more romantic tropes like courtly love and chivalry and the line between politics and love and identity, that the question of Sansa's hand in marriage will be plot relevant. I also think it's kinda naive of people to pretend like George isn't very interested in the sexual dynamics of the characters he writes about (yeah, sure, no woman needs a man but "needing a man" is not what this is about. look at everything this man wrote in F&B and tell me he is going to write a female character that longs for sex and desire and doesn't get it!).
After AGOT, nearly every time Sansa thinks about marriage involves her longing for love but believing she will never get it because a man will only ever love her for her claim. Giving her a man - like Jon - who not only will not steal her claim and in fact has defended it twice over already, who will love her for who she is and not what she can give him, is a really important aspect of her story in my opinion.
As for Jon, I am even more firmly against the opinion that his story is about rejecting love; Jon’s story is about wanting to be a good man, to measure up to his father ~despite~ his bastard blood. When Aemon asks if Ned would choose honor over love and Jon stubbornly says yes, Jon is wrong and it’s important to not forget that. Ned has never once in his entire life chosen honor over love; he chooses his daughter’s life over his honor, he chooses his sister & her son’s life over honor, he chooses Arya & Nymeria over honor, and on and on!!! Ned chooses love at almost turn but none of his children know that just yet - look at Robb choosing Jeyne’s honor over his own and how upset he is at the idea that Ned would be disappointed despite the fact that Ned would have understand Robb’s decision! Jon's whole arc is tied up in realizing that it is not wrong or dirty to feel and choose love, passion, and desire and if he never has another romantic arc again, I think you lose the second part of that lesson which is "you are responsible for how you act when you feel love but that doesn't mean that simply choosing love makes you a bad person."
There's also the fact that George has talked a lot about "who lives, who dies, who gets married" and yet we have not one marriage at the end of the show AND there's not a lot of guesses at what "who gets married" means besides Jon/erys (and even if Jonsa doesn't happen, I simply do not see Jon/erys happening. they are not similar enough, they will not be in the same space for long enough, and they are on wildlly different trajectories for their story, they are not getting married let alone having sex). I think Jonsa fits that bill very well.
These various theories - from Sansa being queen, Jon living in exile, The Ashford Tourney Theory, the secret marriage, every one of them - are ideas and themes that I have really been thinking about for about 12 years now. I think Jon and Sansa's relationship could fit with the themes in their stories, the overarching themes in the books, and my own personal opinions. I think it gives George a great opportunity to delve into the courtly love aspects he enjoys so much, as well as delve into inheritance, legacy, legitimacy, honor, incest (yes, that too), and above all, what George himself has said the whole series is about - love. The human heart in conflict with itself is what I think Jon and Sansa as a romantic couple does for the series.
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kirby-the-gorb · 1 year
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laniemae · 2 months
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What’s up with this table scene in Deep Cover? (And another theory on colour symbolism and that final scene)
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In this one scene where she’s eyeing the chess peices of Kazui, Amane and Mikoto is really confusing to me. This scene (and the one after) depicts only these three. Like I can understand as Kazui was the one who stopped Kotoko from fully beating up Fuuta, and Amane and Mikoto were the guilty prisoners she wasn’t able to fully inflict pain on but it’s interesting how she’s only eyeing these three here.
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And when the camera starts spinning there’s no chess pieces for the other prisoners, only indescribable rubble that doesn’t match up with the pieces (I’ll get to that later). And even Fuuta’s and Mahiru’s pieces aren’t here, but when it keeps spinning it goes back to Kazui, Amane and Mikoto’s pieces still on the table. So what’s up with this? And there’s no sign of Kotoko’s throne which would be right next to Mikoto’s chair. But interestingly enough her chair is back not long later when she’s standing on the table?
This is really interesting but I don’t know exactly what to make of this. All other prisoners that aren’t Kazui, Amane or Mikoto have been completely removed from this scene, and Kotoko’s chair as well. Instead she’s sitting on the other’s chairs instead of her own. Although it seems that may not be the case for Amane, as it looks like she’s sitting on the table there. Or maybe she’s just sitting sideways, it’s hard to tell.
There’s also how in the scene right after this where there’s only one Kotoko, and she’s standing between Amane and Mikoto’s chairs.
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She’s eyeing Mikoto’s broken piece, smiling and laughing, representing her overblown hate for him.(which I still don’t exactly know why she really wants to kill him so badly? Some of the things she’s said makes me think it may be ableism but I don’t think it’s just that.)
And unlike the others who’s chess pieces are in front of their own chairs, his piece is broken in front of her, perhaps even with the likely guilty verdict she may try to attack him again.
There’s also the colours here, where the purple and blue colours often show when she’s breaking the chess pieces or other violent scenes, which is just a little detail I really like. But it also makes the thumbnail scene interesting as that has the more normal grey palette? Thinking about it perhaps this colour scheme represents her desire to take everyone down, as Amane and Mikoto’s pieces are broken here but she only really attacked Fuuta and Mahiru in real life. But that’d make it interesting considering Kazui’s piece is not broken here but at the end it is.
So going back to the rubble thing I mentioned earlier, there appears to be shattered pieces of stone all around the table that do not look like the broken prisoner chess pieces, as this rubble is more broken and doesn’t have any colour.
It’s interesting as this rubble has just appeared out of nowhere, and replaced the other prisoners chess pieces in this scene as well. And it surrounds Kazui’s piece despite it not being broken. And in the scene where she’s on the table, the remains of the guilty prisoners and the other rubble swirl around her in a ring.
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And this is where I want to talk about the layout of the chairs and the rubble more as this shot is incredibly confusing to me.
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So right off the bat there’s something really strange here. Again there’s rubble all over the table but this time it’s in weird clumps. There appears to be 3 maybe 4 clumps on the table, in a position where it looks like it could represent the guilty prisoners perhaps, but if you look closely they do not match up with where the prisoners seats would be, and they’re just everywhere, and it doesn’t seem like the individual chess pieces are here either.
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But in the end, the table has been completely destroyed and the entire mindscape has been engulfed in the bright blues and pinks, which I mentioned could represent her violent desires. The innocent prisoner’s chess pieces have been destroyed with blood all over them and the guilty ones nowhere to be seen. And Kotoko’s piece, the only one intact is the only one that remains, and is covered in blood.
Ok so just going to go off topic here but I just thought about this final scene while writing. If the pink and blue colours represent her desires, perhaps the overly saturated colours represent her desires going out of control and killing everyone. This could explain why Kazui’s chess piece wasn’t broken in the table scene with these colours but it is now.
Perhaps this final scene isn’t exactly what Kotoko wants, but is what she is scared she will become if she doesn’t try to stop herself. She’s struggling at the beginning to hold herself together and gives up, with the shadow of the werewolf emerging from her. The wolves are Kotoko’s representation of her justice, this werewolf is the violent justice that destroys. She’s afraid of what she could become here, that’s why she’s so horrified at the end. She doesn’t exactly want this outcome, she doesn’t want to kill all the prisoners. But she’s scared that how far she’s been going into her extreme ideologies could lead her down this path.
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n. not to sound like a conspiracy theorist. but do we have like.. undeniable confirmation that ruin is a sequel. like.. ANY? at all? any dates? any references directly to sb?
anything?
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thswrtchdthng · 3 months
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right so
spoilers for TMAGP ep 1 (yes I tagged it but just in case)
I'm not thinking much about Lena
I'm not thinking much about Gwen
yknow who I am stuck thinking about?
the mod of that website (couldn't catch the name, the one where they talked about the Institute)
1) they give me the exact same spoopy vibes I got the 1st time I heard Elias's name back in the day (I need to tell tumblr that story one day, I'm still proud of that)
2) the way they...expressed themselves brought back memories
so yeah idk who that mod is and they may never appear again (tho I'm sure they will at some point) but they've given me the most of the vibes I was looking for as of yet.
3) listening to redcanary's part of the convo I kept thinking that they'd found the Panopticon (maybe cause I was still thinking about it from my test lmao). and then I heard the whole "canaries should stay above ground" thingy and my 1st immediate thought about that was how did the mod know that?
this might just be me going insane in the brain (probably) but I think I just found our babygirl
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divinekangaroo · 22 days
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Been reading the Sadeian woman after @normalbrothers mentioned it in relation to Diana Mitford, many thoughts but tumblr (and no computer on holidays) is. Poor format for those thoughts
That said, in a(n unrelated?) tangent, the books framing of the written pornographer’s role in reinforcing sexual dynamics/norms (and that this is why de Sade was at least worthy of analysis because he challenged sexual/gender/power dynamic norms) makes me wonder regarding the propensity (call it the dominance; the dominant minority) of readerfic these days (writ by women for women and using the 'self insert' motif to tackle first person POV) and how it’s recolonised fannish spaces back to a particular model of acceptable pornography through sheer flooding quantity .
“our Chr1s+ian (?) moral duty to reclaim queer pornography to reassert normative sexual dynamics between a man and a woman, or a man and a man, or a woman and a woman*” and clean up all that dirty sexual power gender role dynamic complexity etc etc etc there’s only a very limited range of acceptable incest to fetishise etc etc mumble mumble even gay readerfic back to hole and prod mumble mutter mumble
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pinkeoni · 1 year
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There’s a lot of different ways that time travel could be used/could go. I also don’t like the “go back in time to prevent x from happening” trope either but just because the show is using time travel doesn’t mean that’s the only thing it could use it for. Just because you have a limited imagination doesn’t the show itself does.
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thecruellestmonth · 2 months
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I know that Steph's death was retconned to have been faked and that she only haad a near-death experience—and, yes, I prefer this version of events because while it's extremely doubtful that Leslie would ever pull this stunt, it's at least morally correct for Bruce Wayne's loved ones to lie to his face and mess with his ego—
But I'm not on board with saying that Cass reuniting with Steph in death was just a "hallucination". No, Steph wasn't among the spirits of the dead. But I like the think that rather than Cass having a close encounter with a spirit of the dead, instead Cass as a spirit of the dead visited Steph's dreams.
In dreams and death, the line between the reality where Steph survives and the almost-reality where she died is blurred. But love and comfort and bonds between souls are the only things that are truly real.
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anecdochees · 3 months
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not physicsy enough to physics and not mathy enough to math
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devilishdelights · 8 months
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could u imagine if MC was Solomon’s first apprentice that went rogue. Because they went into the past for Nightbringer. And they chose the brothers instead of humanity + does something more drastic related to that later on which is why they’re called “rogue”. How they’re one of the founders of RAD, they could also later on find the sorcerers society with Solomon. “But that’s past solomon not our solomon” they don’t know that. Solomon is Solomon to the nightbringer timeline. Our Solomon starts it up for the lols and later down the line when past Sol is confronted he’s like well I don’t remember doing that but sure. Maybe I did. “Yeah and u had a rogue apprentice” hmmm. Well, alright I suppose. I am old haha why not. Wouldn’t that be so silly
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bbeelzemon · 3 months
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this cat at petco looks exactly like our cat squid. his name is vlad
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loganslowdown4 · 8 months
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I wrote this a long time ago
After WTIT (can you believe it’s been over 2 yrs already?)😳
Anyway, you know how my brain doesn’t stop?
I think I was in spiral mode back then lol (it’s a bit angsty)
(And this is like worst case, I don’t think it will go down this way anymore) Enjoy!🤪
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death-himself · 2 months
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finally got mentally prepared to watch matpat’s final theory and damn it made me think
as someone who didn’t grow up with any video games other than wii sports and lego games, i have no idea how i became a fan in the early days
all of my knowledge of mario, sonic, and legend of zelda comes from matpat. same probably goes for a lot of classic/popular games honestly. i was watching those videos solely for the math and matpat himself
i think the only way i got into game theory was through minecraft. that really old theory where he figured out how much diamond armor was worth might have been the first video i watched
that was 11 years ago. i was 9 years old when i watched that, i’m 20 now. the fact that ive been watching matpat for over half my life is insane (even more insane is that i haven’t taken any time to learn more about loz or sonic or anything lol)
and for those 11 years i never even subscribed to the channel, i just watched the videos enough to have youtube slap the newest upload onto my recommended page every time to make me feel like i was subscribed
so thank you matpat for shaping part of my childhood. i’m gonna be honest tho, this 11 year streak is too funny to me so i’m not gonna be subscribing now, gonna keep watching almost every video tho and maybe trick myself into thinking i’m subscribed again lol
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laniemae · 18 days
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why am I getting so upset around the idea of favourite characters. Like Amane is my favorite character but recently I’ve been thinking about John a lot and his story and I don’t know why it feels like I’ve betrayed Amane sometimes I think is she really my favorite character? Like I know she definitely is but I don’t know what makes a favourite character and it feels especially weird having two comfort characters and a favourite out of them like picking between two children and sometimes it feels so weird when I think about another character more at times and I just feel really bad about myself
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antirepurp · 2 months
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hey wanna see the kind of shit i need to neutralize to make the fur material behave nicely?
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working theory is that the first one affects the way the second one is laid onto the mesh, therefore if the second is fully transparent the fur effect is eliminated. fingers crossed it's nothing more complex than that bc good lord im gonna be here for a minute otherwise
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