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dinitride-art · 2 years
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Some weird things I’ve noticed about one/Vecna/Henry - an incomplete list/analysis (also not excuses for all his shit, I’m just trying to figure him out)
I’d first like to start off by analyzing what we don’t see in Henry’s backstory. First, with Victor Creel, we are shown Vecna’s first attack through a very flawed lense. His father cannot see that his son was the one that killed everyone, not a demon. He doesn’t see Henry as the problem, but we also don’t see any other problems with Henry from his perspective. We don’t actually see much of Henry at all from Victor’s perspective. The thing I find interesting about Victors story is that he says that him and his wife were tormented by memories from their past. We get an explaination for his past, but we never see his wife’s past. Or at least we don’t get an explaination for it.
When we go to Henry’s version of the story, we get a whole lot of stuff that Victor didn’t know or care to mention. Like doctor Brenner, he didn’t come up in Victors story. Whether that be because of the plot reveal of Vecna or whatnot, he wasn’t mentioned. Henry made note of the fact that it was his mother that called in the doctor. Victor described Henry as a ‘sensitive child’ but when Henry said what his parents thought of him he said that they thought there was something wrong with him, that he needed to be fixed. We don’t get any evidence for them saying that, nor do we get them saying anything. Henry’s mother, who is shown more, is still not explained. She called the doctor and Henry described both parents as having dark secrets- but he never gave us his mother’s.
There are many many years we do not see with Henry and doctor Brenner. We can assume that after Henry went into a coma he was taken by Brenner and was with him for all the years until el banished him to the upside down. But we don’t see any of that. When does he get that tattoo in this time line? Is it before he murders his family? After? If it’s after, then what was the final straw that Brenner had that caused him to put that implant in his neck to suppress his powers? We don’t know. We’ve been given a lot, but we’ve also been given nothing. Why does Henry want to destroy everything? If it’s because he’s inherently evil and bad then that’s just boring. It adds nothing to the story or too the plot other than a cardboard antagonist put up for eleven to pour water on.
Henry is the main antagonist. He has been the main antagonist since the first season. The discussion of motivations throughout the series is always the first thing the think about. The why. Characters and trauma and secrets were a major theme in season four. Lies in season three. Deceit in season two. The unknown in season one. If Henry has been the overarching villain this whole time then he’s been connected to those themes this whole time.
Henry Creel isn’t a one dimensional character. His thoughts and motivations haven’t been established yet. Why four as a number, why his mother first, why the library, why not try to manipulate eleven further when she tried to save max, why was he a sensitive kid? Why is he the main antagonist?
A lot of season four was finding out who Vecna was. And they found out that he was Henry. But they didn’t find out shit about his motivations. It’s not Brenner, because Henry didn’t seem to care when el said he was dead. It’s not anyone he’s already killed because they’re dead. His motivations don’t seem to be in line with anything we’ve been shown yet. So, maybe his motivations lie with what we haven’t seen yet, Henry’s secrets.
We’ve only seen the consequences from Henry: His family, the children, the people of Hawkins. He’s manipulative, he’s powerful, he’s a whole super villain. But what is the cause? In everything we know about Henry, we’ve been given what he’s done. But everyone- even Henry- glosses over anything that might have been a cause. ‘I saw what my parents had done’ great, why’d he kill his sister before his father then? ‘He was a sensitive kid’, that’s not enough. Will was a sensitive kid, he didn’t murder anyone. He was different isn’t a strong enough explaination for his actions.
Henry is the way he is because of reasons that haven’t been explained in the story yet. And if his whole thing is absorbing people and their secrets so they can all suffer together, then he’s got secrets too.
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With the way Walt wasted no time to start abusing Jesse as soon as they partnered up, and considering Walt treats Jesse like he's his son AND his wife... Do you think this means Walt had been bursting at the seams to abuse his real son and real wife this whole time, and only with Jesse did he have a chance to do so?
*Pushes glasses up on nose as though I am a respected scholar in a legitimate field of study* Ok so I hate to answer a compelling question with a kind of roundabout, not at all concrete answer but here goes: Walter wants to do whatever Walter wants to do, in the moment, without having to concern himself with that pesky, pedestrian little irritant known as ye olde consequences. He’s your basic old white fart who, because he grew up with the oxymoron of the white man as a vehicle for both exceptionalism and the Everyman, believes that consequences should not apply to him, and feels that he has been hard done by because, shocker, his stagnancy prior to the beginning of the series hasn’t resulted in everything he ever wanted falling into his lap! He does abuse both Skyler and Flynn over the course of the series, the assault on Skyler in season two being the most overtly violent of these instances, though it is heavily implied in season five that this isn’t even a one time occurrence; “I can’t even keep you out of my bed!” It’s also in season two that he peer pressures his teenage son into drinking to excess to gain the upper hand in his one-sided pissing contest with Hank, and this mirrors the ways in which he flexes his control over Jesse in front of Gus and Mike. Walter is dangerous precisely because he doesn’t view himself as an abuser, it’s not like he wistfully daydreams about slouching around the house in a wifebeater, terrorizing his wife and kids until they walk on eggshells around him. In fact, he’s shown throughout the series to act like a little pissbaby throwing a little pissbaby tantrum whenever he’s treated by his family like the monster he is. He wants to be able to act on his anger, to rape his wife and bully his son, without being subject to any of the organic repercussions these actions would inevitably induce. He doesn’t want to play the part of the mild-mannered family man anymore, or put in any of the work required to keep up that front, but he still wants to be seen as the provider and benevolent patriarch. He wants to have his fucking cake and eat it to.
That’s where Jesse comes in.
Walter loves Jesse, he does. The problem was never that he didn’t love Jesse, it was why he loved Jesse. Walter loves Jesse more than Flynn, that much was confirmed by Vince in a quote I can’t find anymore for the fucking life of me so you’ll just have to take my word for it ig. Walter might even love Jesse more than Skyler. But he doesn’t love Jesse as a person so much as a conduit, as an indispensable resource. It’s pretty vital, actually, that the person Walter projects all his shit onto isn’t a part of his immediate family, because then Jesse can be whatever he wants him to be. It’s great for Walter that Jesse’s a junkie, because then, according to societal norms, he doesn’t have to see Jesse as human when he’s taking out all of his anger on him. When Jesse isn’t being malleable enough for his liking, or even if Walt’s mad about something else entirely, then Jesse’s just a junkie, a nobody, an ungrateful, petulant fuck-up. When Walter is being rightfully shut out by his family or needs Jesse for some material task, then Jesse is practically family to him. They’re partners. It’s a terrible burden to put on an impressionable 24-year-old, a pretty fucking shitty thing to do to someone who trusts you, more than they should, and an impossible exception to live up to, to be someone’s everything.
So when Jesse inevitably fails at it, inevitably falls short of this perfectly imperfect idealization of himself, he is punished, horribly.
Walter never would have done the things he did to Jesse to Flynn, or to Skyler.
He doesn’t love them as much.
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no-psi-nan · 1 year
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Haha no worries! It's downplayed a lot in the series because it's supposed to be a comedy, but when you start looking more closely at the stuff Kuniharu does, it paints a picture of a terrible father and a bad husband too.
It's been a topic on the blog several times, so I'm sure people can chime in with more evidence, but here's what's off the top of my head...
Raised Kusuke. Nuff said tbh lol.
Kuniharu calls Kusuo a monster multiple times and is almost certainly the reason why Kusuke and Kusuo himself believe that Kusuo is an inhuman freak. This attitude is certainly not coming from Kurumi, and nobody else knew about Kusuo's power. From the beginning of the series, Kusuo genuinely believes he's unable to connect with other human beings, and it's mostly because of this attitude inherited from his father.
Kuniharu is never seen attempting to prevent Kusuke from constantly picking fights with his brother, and only attempting to discipline Kusuo for behavior that Kuniharu considers disrespectful to him. This is mostly a fact by omission, but we do see him belittling Kusuke when the kid obviously already has an inferiority problem.
Kuniharu is one of the worst performers at his job and the first to be let go in the case of a crisis. When he loses his job, he's unable to find any others because his only real skill is shoe-licking. This was a parody chapter though so questionably canon. He's always running late for his job though and we see him trying to make a manga artist rip off Naruto, so honestly it makes sense that he's that bad at his job. The only time he's shown as slightly competent at his job was during a parody chapter too hsfjdlshfks.
However what's definitely canon is that he either doesn't make much money or mis-spends most of it. In an area where Nendo's mom, a single woman, and Satou's family, the exact average family, can afford to live, Kuniharu had to take out an 80 year mortgage to pay for a similarly sized home. For context, most mortgages are for 30 years, 15 if you git gud. Btw, the house was literally a gift from Kusuke, Kuniharu insisted on paying out of manly pride or something. Sir, Kusuke is a freaking billionaire and this is like the only single no-strings-attached genuinely kind thing he's ever done hsfjdlshfks
Completely irresponsible with money: has a huge Valentine's day budget for his wife's gift ($3,000 iirc?) and then spends it all at the bar paying for his coworkers' drinks (the same guys who abuse him at his job and think he's garbage). He also spends huge amounts of money on his model figure collection, and has a whole room of gym equipment he never uses. As a result, Kusuo has a very small allowance and for some reason, his one favorite food (coffee jelly) is not included in the grocery list. Even though Kusuo canonically gets insane rock bottom prices for literally everything that gets bought in the household. How do you fuck up so badly financially that you can't buy your clinically depressed son the one (inexpensive!) thing that brings him joy??
By the way, Kuniharu started dating Kurumi when he was a college student and she was in high school. Kusuke was born like a year after they met, so you can do the math about how little time he spent before knocking her up 😬 They basically had a shotgun wedding. No wonder Kurumi's dad is NOT a fan of Kuniharu...
Literally one of the first chapters is Kuniharu and Kurumi domestic violence but make it funny. They're throwing furniture, Kuniharu is breaking the windows, Kurumi is yeeting her husband, and all this shit is over a single coffee jelly, which again, should be a normal part of the groceries for their household. They constantly bring their son into this drama too, which I'm sure is fantastic for his mental and emotional development btw.
There's a manga exclusive chapter that's a parody, so questionably canon, but in it Kuniharu physically attacks Kusuo multiple times over differences in opinion.
However, it IS canon that Kuniharu takes any opportunity to try to physically harm Kusuo. Ex. Hitting him in the massage episode and trying to step on him when he turns tiny.
Canon tries to redeem him a bit by showing moments where Kusuo is a baby and Kuniharu is trying really hard to make him smile because he wants his baby boy to be happy. Unfortunately that just makes it seem like he tried to be a good father for a bit when Kusuo was a baby, and then as soon as Kusuo's powers developed enough to make him miserable (the time when he needs the MOST familial support!), Kuniharu just gives up, and starts using Kusuo as his personal genie in a bottle. While also trying to fix his own fragile ego by attempting to establish dominance over his son. ????? Get therapy bro.
Canon also shows that Kuniharu's love points for Kusuo are the same as for his wife, however, not even Kuniharu believes that, as he tries to run away to evade it hsfjdlshfks. And even if he does love his son that much, he certainly doesn't show it in any meaningful way, because his literal MIND-READING SON doesn't know that. There are plenty of parents who truly love their kids and still abuse them like hell because they think that's the right thing to do (see Kaido's mom being overly strict because she wants to see him succeed in life), so the love points don't mean much imo.
Kuniharu does dole out a couple of pieces of wisdom (at Kusuo's wrong date birthday party and in the volcano arc) but that really doesn't make up for anything and even his wife thinks he's childish so... 🇫
Kuniharu is definitely funny as a character, and like I said, most of this requires digging into canon a little more, but once you start looking, it becomes clear that Kuniharu is just not a good person, father, or husband.
Like, I totally get that having a genius and a god as your kids would not be easy for any parent, but Kuniharu really doesn't try to make life better for either of his sons, preferring to get into petty squabbles with his wife and play video games/build models the rest of the time. I'm not saying dads can't have hobbies, but the only times we see him spending time with Kusuo is usually when he's begging for a favor, and he also clearly does zero housework whatsoever, so...
Anyways, I think Kurumi deserves a better husband and Kusuo deserves a better parent (or at least a break from being used as a magical favor vending machine lol) so I often joke on here that Kurumi should get a divorce and run polls about who she should marry instead and such!
Hope this helps! 👍🏾 Thanks for the question!
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talktolwt · 11 months
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I would like to focus on the music chosen for Hob Gadling's 80s sequence.
I'm extremely late to the world of The Sandman (finally binged it two weeks ago after my mother had been begging me to watch it with her and now I'm more obsessed than her) Bottom line: I'm unbelievably glad I finally watched this beautiful piece of television.
I have yet to read the comics but as for the first season, I have to say, without a doubt, my favorite episode is Chapter 6: The Sound of Her Wings. Death's 20-min segment is a beauty unto itself, but I'll be focusing on Hob's segment today. Specifically, his 80s scenes.
Considering I'm so late to this fandom and exploring all of its wondrous details and themes, excuse me if this has already been noted. I've been thinking about these details over and over but I need to get it out there in the Sandman world and hear everyone else's thoughts.
*Also excuse the terrible photos - Netflix doesn't let you screenshot and I was too lazy to get another app to let me bypass it. Please bear with my photos of my laptop screen.*
There are three songs that play throughout this sequence.
#1 - "She Drives Me Crazy" by Fine Young Cannibals
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I accidentally deleted half my post mid-writing this but here I go again.
As we can see, after the breakup scene, we open up on Hob Gadling (he looks amazing in his 80s look, by the way) and this song plays.
Here are the lyrics:
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I mean - where do I even start LMAO.
*Let me just give another note - regardless if you ship Dreamling romantically or not, I will be merely analyzing these lyrics as they are and how they convey Hob's feelings for Dream in general. But, I mean, the songs are THERE, the text is THERE. So do with that what you will.*
This will go for the following two songs as well, but these songs are placed with meaningful intention. Each of these offer a unique lens and dive into Hob's feelings.
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I won't be annoying and over-explain anything, but the lyrics are clear I feel:
"She drives me crazy" - cough
"Things you do don't seem real" - in Hob's view, Dream literally is an enigma. Hob has no idea the capacities, the limits, and even the name of this being he meets every century.
"This waiting 'round's killing me" - well.
"Everything you say is lies" - now I wouldn't say particularly lies, but Dream does keep and omit things from Hob. Understandably, Hob would find himself in a confused limbo with Dream.
Here's the kicker:
"I won't make it on my own/No one likes to be alone." - HELLO. I mean, if this isn't the core message and pinnacle of Dream and Hob's lesson to immortality.
As Death mentions earlier in the episode, around 18:10, "Most of us will be glad for the company of a friend."
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I feel I could go on forever and ever about the beauty of this episode and how well The Sound of Her Wings and Men of Good Fortune intertwine. They beautifully complement each other as stories lamenting the dichotomy of life and death, and the joys of humanity.
But essentially, Death reteaches Dream how beautiful humans can truly be, and in this pivotal moment, she says this zinger of a line. The camera was initially on Death but for THIS line, it cuts to Dream.
BECAUSE - poor Dream is definitely in need a friend.
Which is then shown to the audience by the 30-min long Hob Gadling sequence that ensues, and we see Dream's aversion to needing someone, to needing a friend.
But I digress - back to the song, and that one line about not wanting to be alone.
That is such a poignant line, because as much as Dream felt alone and needed company, so does Hob? An immortal, constantly seeing the death of others around him, his companions and family long gone, he needs someone.
Considering this 80s sequence ruminates so heavily on post-breakup feelings, Hob is missing Dream dearly. His constant in life.
I'm rambling too much, onto the next one!
#2 - "Shattered Dreams" by Johnny Hates Jazz
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Time skip to perhaps a few hours later, who knows. We see Hob still waiting for Dream, alone in the pub.
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Hm.
Literally what else could I say. I'm being slapped in the face with pining and angst and longing.
Here are the lyrics:
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Some noteworthy lyrics:
"So much for your promises/They died the day you let me go" - this breakup man
"Caught up in a web of lies" - another lie motif
"I thought it was you/Who would stand by my side" - the theme of Dream and Hob being constants in each other's lives
"Shattered dreams" - I could scream. The title of the song. SHATTERED. DREAMS. giggling rn.
"Woke up to reality" - I think that's a very interesting line toeing between the constant references of the Waking and the Dreaming
Basically, I've been noting these evident similarities within the songs to align themselves to Dream and Hob's situation, and it's clear that the director/writers chose these songs with intent of it paralleling Dreamling.
So that makes it even more insane when lines like "From this empty heart" are meant to parallel Hob. Like.
Okay, last song.
#3 - "Keep On Moving" by Soul II Soul
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This song plays as the night progresses. It's late, it's clear Dream isn't showing up, and Hob is feeling pretty final about that, and perhaps he's accepted it at this point. Dream isn't coming.
So this is where he speaks to the bartender and that scene ensues.
Here are the lyrics:
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The themes of time and clocks are super prevalent within this song, and again it's once more clear how heavily this reflects and represents Hob.
Noteworthy lyrics:
"Why do people choose to live their lives this way?" - I think this also uniquely touches on the general aspect of humanity and one's reason to live/love life. Dream battles with his confusion/slight disappointment for humanity at the beginning, as he asks Death, "Why would any sensible creature crave an eternity of this?" And then Hob helps Dream realize why there's so much to live for. (24:30)
"I know the time will come today/The time will come one day"
"Walking alone in my own way" - Again this idea of walking alone and needing company.
"You'll be in my life, my life always" - Dream and Hob being constants again.
This all goes to say - Hob cares. He cares for Dream.
And I just think that's very beautiful. The magnitude with which Dream's absence means to him and how much their friendship/companionship both means to each of them. I just think their connection is a beautiful thing that I love seeing and rewatching. Wonderfully, these songs give the audience even more layered insight into this connection.
This was super long, and I apologize if I went on some tangents. But I also just couldn't help it, The Sandman is so incredibly rich in its storytelling and its connections and dynamics that I had to write this all down. I also just very much appreciate the amount of care and detail that goes into every aspect of television, and needle drops such as these three songs are no exception.
Thank you for sticking with me through this! Can't wait for season 2!
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fansids · 1 year
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Alright, I gotta lotta thoughts on s4, but this is the main thing I'm not particularly happy with.
It's not very organized, I'm writing as I'm thinking so I apologize beforehand.
Spoilers obvi.
I really don't appreciate how Sun Wukong's character has been treated up until this point.
Look, I don't mind the "perfect, heroic mentor is actually not always so perfect and heroic and made mistakes that are still effecting the world now" like fine. Fine. But the way the show goes about it makes SWK look like a worse and worse person. It crosses the line of him making mistakes, to just being generally careless and not learning.
I mean: leaving Xiaotian in s2 and inadvertently neglecting him in the process, keeping the 4th ring a secret in s3 until it's too late, being the reason there was a fourth ring to begin with, the whole Macaque thing that the show seems to be leaning more towards SWK being in the wrong for, and his whole deal with his sworn brothers in s4.
It was already irritating in season 3, especially when he's shown to get yelled at by Xiaotian & Zhu Dachu then continues his usual way, often being unhelpful. I get that Xiaotian is the mc, but like c'mon. SWK is depowered, there are like a million ways to sideline him without doing that.
Season 4 is especially egregious as someone who's read jttw because the Lion, Elephant, and Peng are all terrible villains who spent a good amount of their time eating innocent people. I'm not sure why the show especially seems to be insistent on making the Azure Lion sympathetic and one that feels bad for trapping SWK...then again Macaque exists. You know what no, I don't see why they are insistent on doing that when Macaque exists. He may be one too many times, but once was enough.
Jttw aside, if in Azure Lion's point of view SWK willingly betrayed them and all the "good" they stood for, then trapped his other brothers for thousands of years, and before that was happy to join heaven's courts for like 20-30 years, then I don't know why he'd ever show that level of concern for him. If that happened to me, it would be monkey season, straight up.
(also the fact that he said he'd let SWK go when they completed what they wanted to, I call absolute bullshit. Even if he did feel bad, releasing SWK at any point in time would be a god awful idea)
From what s4 has shown, I think what the show writers wanted to do was build a parallel between Xiaotian and SWK, both having made mistakes that endangered the world and their loved ones as well as Xiaotian learning that his hero is just as human (for lack of a better term) as him. But the execution is lacking as a lot of Xiaotian's mistakes are not really his fault.
DBK taking his staff? It's not like he handed it to him.
Spider Queen using his hair? Is he supposed to stop shedding?
Red Son getting the skeleton key? Again, it's not as if he handed it to him. Also, wouldn't that make it the Bull family's fault, since they opened the coffin?
It wasn't him being careless it was him losing 2 fights and a bit of his hair. Whereas with SWK, it's implied these things happened because he didn't think about the consequences of his actions. They don't really seem comparable.
Also, if you've read jttw (and even if you haven't, but I think the context makes it worse), then lmk SWK is a very miserable character right off the bat. As we can see, he never became a Buddha, his friends are heavily implied to be dead, there are no monkey yaoguai on the mountain, or even a nation anymore, implying that his subjects left, died, or both, and in the midst of all of this he has no support system. Nor does he ever seem to obtain one in the show.
And I think some of these issues could be remedied if he was given the opportunity to tell his side of the story. Everything wrong he does is seen told through the perspective of another person. Not to say they shouldn't be upset, but the fact that SWK just absorbs whatever blame is put on him, never really giving any fair defense doesn't sit right with me. It wouldn't change any of the things he's done, but it would make him a lot more understandable as a character, instead of him consistently being some form of a fuck up.
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I don’t absolutely despise klaroline, although I definitely do not like them either, but one of the most stupid things in the entirety of the originals is Klaus flirting with Caroline while Hayley and hope is abducted. Would you consider this to be a writing mistake or just Klaus being Klaus? I’ve always wondered if he focused more on finding them if he’d of been able to save Hayley in time.
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I've made an entire tik tok about this because I despised this episode since the first time I saw it. I laid out all of the dumb decisions Klaus made in the episode in the tik tok as well as a lengthy caption. You can see that here.
Klaus in Season 5 is terribly written. He may not be my favorite character and I don't like klaroline but everything about him and them in Season 5 was wrong.
Starting with Rebekah calling Caroline to go find Klaus. That made no sense. Why wouldn't Freya or Marcel go find him. They are his family. Marcel has known him for 200 years. It's not like Rebekah thought he wouldn't harm her, he had nearly killed Caroline multiple times. Marcel was upgraded, he would have been the best choice to go and talk some sense into Klaus. Or Freya who could have gone and yelled at him for abandoning Hope.
Just the fact that Klaus was ignoring Hope for five years made no sense to me. I get he was terrified that she would hate him after what she saw, but the end of Season 3 and through Season 4, we began to see a version of Klaus that was actually putting Hope's needs first. This abandonment was a complete regression back to his Season 2 narcissism. Also, Hope not continuing to astral project to find him made no sense. She is a powerful witch, if Caroline could track him down, so could Hope.
Now onto the day of the event.
My biggest gripe is that they are literally driving everywhere. Klaus is the fastest being, why is he taking an SUV that can go max 180 mph? Why did they stop at a rest stop to get coffee? Exhaustion doesn't affect them that way. They are literally flirting and joking around as Hope and Hayley are missing. Sure at this point they may not have realized how serious it was, but Klaus would never have allowed himself to be distracted like that. It was bad writing purely for ratings.
Klaus would rip apart the world to save both Hayley and Hope. Showing him doing anything less is a disservice to his character.
Good writing, writing that is true to Klaus' character would have shown him turning into a wolf to track Hope down. Ansel tells Klaus in Season 2 that he was drawn to Klaus as a child and even to Hope because wolves are drawn to their family. It would have been so satisfying to finally watch Klaus at one with his wolf side in order to find Hope.
It also was so out of character to see Klaus walking slowly to the house. Hayley was actively having her wolf side suppressed and fighting Greta. Klaus would have heard this from miles away and sped as fast as possible to the house. Instead we see him walking at a slow human speed. Caroline is also easily snuck up on by Elijah and Klaus doesn't immediately snap his neck? True-to-character Klaus would have ripped out Elijah's heart to save Hope and Hayley. After all, Elijah would have been fine.
Very little of Season 5 was not just poor writing. There were scenes and plot points that directly contradict established canon. The reason the writing was so bad is because the writers were killing Hayley, Elijah, and Klaus off no matter what. Hayley's death was 1000% preventable. Hayley was a hybrid and a member of the strongest family but was somehow killed by a 100 year old vamp? Say what you will about Klaus, but Klaus definitely would have saved her no matter what. She never should have died but Julie wanted Legacies to have an orphaned Hope and didn't care to make the writing good.
Shameless plug: If you want to read how I would rewrite Season 5 to make more sense, check out my story, Don't It Just Break Your Heart, on AO3 and Wattpad.
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aliennazero · 11 months
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If it turns out it was Public Safety and Devil Hunters scope of work that "trains" Yoshida to only use coercive tactics to get what he wants and to basically never ever directly show his desire (thus making him one of their trained dogs), I will never forgive them.
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We talk about how Yoshida's action kind of parallel to Makima. But we never talked about the abusive hell of an institution behind them and how it affect both Makima and Yoshida's pattern of behaviour aren't we?
Why? Is it because it's political? So it should stay on the background forever? Or because we underestimate them as a controlling institution because what we have been shown so far is their failure to keep devils at bay? Are we forget how even Makima is scared to those higher ups and about Kishibe's whole motives to gave Nayuta to Denji so she doesn't turns out like Makima?
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Abuse is a very terrible act, and I understand why not everyone want to discuss it. In Chainsaw Man however, it's a big part of the story. Denji's early life is full of abuse, Asa got "abused" later on after her family and everything was taken from her, and Makima is implied to be abused in the past by the government in order to "tame" her.
So that's why, I don't want to play blind on Hirofumi. I know we laughed over him. We laughed over his jobs he had failed and been done so far. But damn, are we really ever think about it? How he, a new 17yo recruit, is tasked to protect Chainsaw Man + keep an eye on Famine Devil + prevent the doomsday scenario, all in one and being left alone to handle that? Even his co-worker is hinted to dgaf about him and do not take him seriously, although it looks like a gag.
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That's... that's sounds sad, man. It's basically violating child labor law all over again. Yoshida overworked himself and it's very clear. But apparently, because "Devil Hunter" is seen to be "heroic", at the side of humanity, is it suddenly become a good kind of abuse? Of course not!
Yoshida's whole weird and offputting personality makes me wonder about this. His "mature" act actually set my alarms on. He's "wrong", but there's seems to be more motives and more gunpoint behind it. I wonder if this institutional, systematical abuse is going to be very relevant or not to his character in the future.
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I'm afraid of this implications, but I think I need to make myself ready for it, to see more of Chainsaw Man government horror if we get any more glimpses of it (that I'm sure will happen sooner or later).
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la-hannya · 1 year
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Been keeping away from the drama cause I'm mostly tired, want to mostly focus on the original series, and I can't wait for this fanfic to completely die truly from the death drag is doing since it's long overdue; but after reading this— it needed to be addressed. Saw some copium going on about it already.
You can say stuff like "he is a yōkai", "he was always like that", "he is too good to lower himself to the standards and morals of humans", "retcons can happen" "you see? Rumiko is supervising now", "You weren't paying attention to the story" "the translation should say this instead of this" etc etc. Sure. of course, Jan. All that shit is bs as shown in the source material a thousand times already. Ok, moving on.
but AGAIN this Sesshomaru is just not the same one. Not the same to the original anime and not the same og manga either. This is like a completely different character than what we've been shown before. Nope. Ken Narita said it best and knew it.
This one is a completely regressed version and you can die on the hill after punching me in the face "that it's the same one, it's canon" but the original one wouldn't let crap like this slide. Oh yes, I know he's not a fucking prince charming; for sure! WE ALL KNOW. But Sesshomaru had already grown enough that he gave a fuk at least about those around him. Even if he's a person who barely expresses himself. So, much so, that no matter how you view the relationship of him and Rin— you know he was still coming to see and make sure he was okay even when she was in a village that might as well be safe 💯% thanks to his brother along his wife + inugang and others. He took care of Kohaku after Kikyo died! He regretted not leaving Rin in a village earlier when she lost her life again. Here, he's whole family are accessories. You got even Shippo weirdly being his servant all of a sudden. You can measure the regression with a ruler 📐
The vibes Rumiko Takahashi is giving me at this point are: A) she doesn't give a fuk because the og story is FINISHED as she has talked before (tbh this woman didn't give a fuck starting the last half of the series cause you can look up her interviews on Rumic World/Furinkan, and she was half ass winging it by the end cause that's how much she stopped vibin with her "Magnum Opus". Thanks Sunrise) and since she doesn't give a fuk, she doesn't want to even bother looking at her own source material. This is why I've gone mostly "Death of the author" with her at this point.
B) The other thing could be as well that she's fuking this thing on purpose. "But, Gene she's supervi—" no shut up. And stop snorting the copium. You'd think if this was canon she'd be truly wanting to sell the story and this ship, but it's like she wants to make sure he along everything else is the worst possible every chapter. If she truly is supervising, cause honestly she still feels like she quickly looks over sht, goes "whatever, I'm done with this" and goes back to doing Inuyasha revamp *cough* I mean MAO. Though, it's quite understandable why she was so reluctant to allow this in the first place.
And let me tell you, the "Character becomes terrible parental unit when the next generation is born, so their past growth is thrown out the window" trope. It's OVERUSED GARBAGE that fuks up good stories 🗑️🚮 You got characters that are really similar to Sessh that are doing better in other animes for Pete's sake. LIKE "THE VILLAIN" OF YASHAHIME: KIRINMARU 🦄🤡
It's pitiful really. I dunno how anyone can still enjoy this because "uWu it gives me crumbs". Nah, have some standards. Other people can do better stories. Other people can write this better while still respecting the original story. And I'm not saying you can't enjoy some things from it, because you can (like Moroha, Kirin, the Mirsan kids, whatever). But this could've been better done. Peace.
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Tell me everything about Pathologic. I wanna know what its plot is and who the characters are :)
(aka I wanna know if it's worth playing)
fuck yes, converting another prog friend to pathologic, this is like the 4th time it happens
so, pathologic is a game developed by ice pick lodge, a russian studio. the first game (we call it pathologic classic or pathologic 1) was released in 2005. it is the only version of the game that is currently complete so far, so I will focus on that one
it takes place in a time period that has been located as right after the russian revolution (so, let's say the 1920s)
you, the player, find yourself in the role of a healer, tasked to deal with a terrible plague that has afflicted a small, isolated town in the russian steppe
Characters
you can choose between 2 playable characters, with the 3rd being unlocked after you finished one of the other 2 campaigns
- the first one is daniil dankovsky, "the bachelor", he's a bachelor of medicine, whose life goal is to vanquish the most terrible foe of all: death itself. he's an outsider, who has come to the town in the hopes of talking to a mystical and mysterious elder that lives there, simon kain, rumored to be immortal. this is his last chance to prove that his work is going somewhere before the authorities shut his lab down for good.
gameplay wise, he's said to be the easiest. you start with a good amount of money, medicine, and a scalpel, which works as a pretty good weapon. you are also equipped with a "plaguefinder" which spots plague clouds before you run into them
- the second one is artemy burakh, "the haruspex", he was born in the town but his father sent him away in order for him to study medicine and surgery. the burakh family belongs to a special "caste" called the menkhu, who have an exclusive blood right to perform autopsies and surgery, that means opening up human bodies - it is taboo for anyone else to do it. after a worrying note from isidor burakh, artemy's father, he hurriedly comes back to town to find out what happened
his route is said to be "hard mode" and that's because, unlike daniil, you start off with a pretty roughed up artemy, no money, no food, no weapons
- third and final healer is clara, "the changeling" little is known about clara, and development wise her route was the most rushed one. still, clara is a mysterious teenager who was born from a grave, and is shown to have magical abilities. she believes herself to be good, miraculous even, but folks regard her as a liar and a thief
I haven't reached her route yet, so I don't know the exact details regarding her route, but all the mechanics you've grown accustomed to with the first two characters, disappear and are changed completely with clara. that is why you can only play as her after one of the other two
mechanics
if you want to play the game yourself, knowing these is fundemental
the game, at its core, is a survival game. you have to watch out for these stats
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- health, it goes down when you're hit, after consuming pills or some kinds of food, and over time when you're infected. if it's at 0 you die
- immunity, your ability to resist the plague, it goes up and defaults at 50% after some time passes. the higher it is, the less likely it is for you to catch the plague. if it's at 0, you could get infected even by standing next to a plague cloud. you can boost it using specific pills, but mind you this bar is not a complete shield to the plague, you can still get infected regardless
- hunger, that is self explanatory. you need to eat to survive. food can be found in shops!
- exhaustion, you're not a superhero, you still need to sleep when necessary, but you can reduce fatigue with coffee beans or lemons (they reduce your health, though)
- infection, when you get hit by the plague, you get infected. that eats away your health over time, and if it's too high up, some npcs might start attacking you. you can get infected by traversing plague clouds, getting touched by sick people or getting bitten by rats. do not catch the plague.
you've also noticed a top bar called "reputation" reputation plays a big role. it is imperative that you keep it nice and full, otherwise people might start attacking you, and shops could refuse to sell you stuff. you can improve your rep by killing muggers and burglars, and by helping the sick, offering them medicine to ease their pain
the other stats represent clothes you can wear to reduce malus effects, such as being hit or getting in contact with the plague
walking
walking is 95% of the game. it is slow and it's the main thing that drives people away when they try to play, but in my experience, you get used to it quickly - also there are so many trashcans around to keep you entertained!
time
time is another fundamental thing to keep attention to when playing, some quests are time based, and if you fail the main quest for the day you can get locked out of later important events
combat
you can fight other people, but I do not recommend it. you can use melee weapons, from your fists to knives, or arms, a revolver, a shotgun or a rifle. using your weapons eats away their durability, and bullets are rare and expensive. do not fight if not strictly necessary
story
I'm not spoiling the story, play it yourself! my only advice is pay attention to the dialogue trees, they can get tricky and even fail you quests if you pick the wrong option
and those are the main points to look for if you want to play the game, I recommend it 👍 it's not really fun per se but you create your own fun, and it's pretty cheap on steam, so buy it! support indie developers!!
if you think about it, it's really like listening to a prog album, weird at first but then you find the beauty within and get obsessed and never let go
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i’ve seen discussion on here about how logan seems to have declined post-episode 1 stroke. he’s colder with his children after that episode (which also may have to do with having them in his pocket again) and is generally quite reckless.
(discussion of gerri and logan under the cut)
it makes me think of the thanksgiving ep where a lot of people, including gerri, witness him hitting iverson with a can. after that, gerri immediately turns on him and joins kendall's coup. when i first watched this ep i assumed that gerri had reached a moral breaking point and could no longer support a man who would hurt a member of his own family. however, having watched the series a few times now, this obviously doesn’t add up - gerri has stood by logan through countless scandals, including cruises, and watched him hit roman, who she obviously cares about. even if these things upset her, she still remains loyal to logan.
so i’m realizing now how the two are connected (logan’s mental decline in s1 and gerri’s siding with kendall during the vote of no confidence): she didn’t turn on logan because hitting a child is so terrible to her that she’d stop acting in her own self-interest; no, the fact that logan would do something so reckless, semi-publicly, showed gerri this mental decline. she was afraid that he’d do something like that in public and fuck them. she wasn’t so much appalled by child endangerment but was more nervous about her own self-interests being compromised.
i think this is an interesting nuance of gerri's character because she is shown to clearly understand right and wrong even when she does things that are wrong. yeah she commits and enables horrible actions throughout the series, but she's not like logan, who doesn't seem to give a fuck about anyone else. (and we can be pretty certain that logan has been that way for a long time, even before his stroke; he's just gotten worse at hiding it.)
gerri has a moral compass. she's just learned to ignore it because she cares more about money and power than said moral compass. on the other hand, i don't think logan really has a functional moral compass. logan's values in any given moment are the values that will serve his own interests best. on the other hand, gerri will always serve her own interests, even if they go against her values.
i think this makes an interesting dynamic between them: gerri seems well aware that logan is an abusive father (and grandfather), a bigot, and generally just a danger to every human being on earth, and she seems to understand that this is bad. however, so long as her interests are being served, she can shove it down. when logan's health declines in season 1 and he struggles to hide his wrongdoing, gerri flips on him and joins kendall's coup out of self-interest.
compare this with the rest of the series, where logan has regained his mental fortitude and his full, terrifying powers of manipulation (see: his conversation with rhea where she finally realizes she "can't see the bottom of the pool"), and gerri is as loyal to him as ever.
we as the audience don’t get much insight into the non-roy characters' personal thoughts and feelings - for example, does frank genuinely care about kendall as a son or is it 100% manipulation? 50%? 25%? do gerri, frank, karl, karolina, and the others feel like the cruises victims genuinely do not count as ‘real people’ or is it just that they’ve picked money over their loyalty to humanity?
i find logan to be a fascinating character and i don't believe he's truly 'evil' - that is to say, he's not a moustache-twirling disney villain. i think everything logan does, he can justify to himself as the right thing to do. he's so good at denial, lying, and manipulation that he's managed to fool even himself. i think this sets him apart from the other characters, even the senior Waystar execs like gerri who have been committing atrocities by his side for decades.
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I think a better ending for Steve Rogers would have been...
Him living with Sharon at the beginning of Infinity wars like initially planned, with her getting dusted and him reasonably being distraught about losing her and his friends.
He could still go back for just the dance with Peggy, but instead of staying, he sits down with her to have a discussion about their lives and families: his found one and the life he was making with the woman he'd come to love in the future, and her husband and kids that she was happy to have and be with in the past. Maybe even with them subtly teasing about their missed chance and perhaps getting a turn for it to work out in a different universe or lifetime, but not this one, because they were happy with they way their lives turned out.
The discussion could end with him asking for her blessing to be with Sharon, and admitting that the woman he now loves is her niece, and that he never got to talk to her about it but that he really does care for her. Peggy would happily give her blessing, maybe surprised but glad he'd found happiness and was making someone she would come to love just as happy as her own husband made her. Then giving him shovel talk to protect her niece or else.
That way, they would have shown both of them getting definitive closure to move on with their lives, while honoring the development of all three characters and the arcs they had been leading, along with the goals they had.
It seems misplaced and kind of messed up that Steve would forget about the woman he'd been actively pursuing and had a solid chance with, an entire whole human being person, just to jump at being with someone that he had missed his chance with but had also moved on with her life, told him to move on with his, and that she had been happy and only wanted the same for him.
It feels incredibly disrespectful to every character involved that he just disregards everything she discussed with him while she was older, ignores that she had a family of her own, treats her niece terribly by pursuing her and then 'changing his mind' as if women are interchangeable, and that Peggy would be okay with all of this and want to be with him after the fact, assuming he told her. And if he didn't, then that just makes him an even bigger jerk.
This ending wasn't thought out at all, especially with the previous narratives in place and the initial plans that they kept changing just to meet the expectations of extremely toxic fandom misogyny, and the people who hated Sharon Carter just for existing, when she'd done nothing wrong, and neither had Steve in pursuing her romantically.
It gets worse because the way fans treated Emily VanCamp in turn, over fictional characters sex lives no less, was just awful and so messed up and uncalled for.
This ending was based off a fan theory, and meant to be 'fan service', but fan fiction is free and shouldn't be affecting canon, nor should people be made to pay for writing so lazy, ideas are directly stolen from fandom, fan theories, or fan fiction, whether some like it or not.
Steve wouldn't have forgotten Sharon or treated her like that. Peggy wouldn't have wanted him to forget her precious baby niece who she would have loved and cherished far more than a missed chance at romance, especially when she had moved on and lived her life.
The ending we should have gotten for Steve, Peggy, and Sharon would have been best if the above mentioned or something similar were done, finishing off with Steve coming back to the present and getting down on one knee when he finally sees Sharon again. You know why. And he'd still be ready and able to toss the shield over to Sam, still working to help his friends behind the scenes, and Evans could still leave with the door open for new stories that don't focus on Steve but keep his character and message consistent, with a chance for cameos even.
Plus the opportunity for an Agent 13 movie that could have even included her great aunt who would have inspired and encouraged her.
Instead, fans were made to pay for a poor, no thought, cop out fan fiction theory, stolen directly from fan discourse on Reddit. And Steve got turned into Joe Biden, which no one asked for nor deserved to have injected into their brains.
The fans of Peggy, 'Steggy', and even other ships, who collectively bullied Emily for playing Sharon, contemplating getting her to commit suicide, a real life human being, just to get the 'character' written out! The same fans that relentlessly went after the fans of Sharon with the same if not worse attitude, were rewarded for terrible misbehavior that Disney should have worked to shut down before it could begin, not fuel the hate train by encouraging and promoting the actress who started and practically campaigned on it.
After claiming she'd play Sharon, and that if she did, it would be 'true love'. But if she doesn't play Sharon, then and only then is it 'disgusting' and 'disrespectful' and 'incestuous'.
It was never any of those things...
But those were her words, pulled from her interviews. Because apparently, Sharon was only worth something if 'Hayley Atwell' was the one playing her.
It take two seconds to verify what she did, the things she said, how long she did it for (several years following the casting of Emily), and how often (almost every interview).
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
She hurt real people, caused real pain and cyberbullying so bad, Emily did interviews on how much hate she was getting, and it still didn't stop. Human lives were held in the balance and I'm sorry if people find being told the truth 'annoying' but a life should never be worth less than a fictional story, entertainment, or self gratification, to anyone, for any reason.
And it is a very different animal when the actions of fictional characters, or storyline decisions, start to spill into real life and affect real people, as opposed to fictional people.
Maybe I'm in the minority, maybe I always will be. But what I see is something wrong being made out to be something right, and if Captain America taught me anything, it wasn't to bully others or accept them getting bullied.
So I throb with righteousness for Sharon Carter, Emily VanCamp, and the fans who got the short stick for no reason. She deserves nothing but love and justice for everything that happened.
"You move."
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World building and theories of Engage
Veyle's Mother
Veyle's mother is arguably the most important character not shown in Engage. Her love and affection helped to shape Veyle's personality which stayed strong throughout the game despite the persecution and manipulation she suffered at the hands of humanity, Zephia and Sombron. 
The story of Veyle's mother is explained in Veyle's support conversation with Hortensia. Veyle asked Hortensia to listen to a story about the suffering being born a Fell Dragon has cause her:
“It’s about my mother. You see, she was just a regular dragon, but…
She was also the Fell Dragon’s mate. Humans hated her for it and persecuted her. She died.”
“When I didn’t age, the humans knew what I was, and they persecuted me too. It was…terrible. So, being a Fell Dragon has given me nothing, and it has taken everything.”
We learn that Veyle's mother lived a life of persecution. Even though her life was hard she still fulfilled her role as a parent. In Chapter 25: The Final Guardian, Corrupted Lumera offers to be a mother figure, Veyle rejects because she does not need a mother, she had one who loved her very much.
“Thank you for the kind offer. But I don't need a second mother in my life, I had one.“
“She was kind and affectionate. And there was so much love within her. But she died before I could truly appreciate what I had. She always did her best to keep me safe. She told me if Papa ever broke free, if he did, and started doing terrible things. As his family, I had to find a way to stop him.“
Veyle's mother's most important role in the story is the kindness, love and affection she showed her child. When someone is given kindness, love and affection they learn how to be a person/dragon with those qualities. Veyle's mother plays a similar role to Lumera in Alear's life. Without the kindness, love and affection shown by their adopted mother, Alear would have been a cold and frightened being focussed on their survival. Zephia is an example of what happens when the love of a parental figure cannot be remembered. 
 “How did my mother and father regard me? With this… love? If only I could travel to the past.“
Zephia could not remember her parents because she accidentally killed them with her immense power. Without the example of the love of her parents, her idea of family is distorted by Sombron's example. In Chapter 24: Recollections, Sombron explains to Zephia his ideas about the role of children. 
Zephia: “Your children are endlessly impressive. What I wouldn't do for such loyal subordinates. What would that be like? To possess fully such unconditional love?“
 Sombron: “If you require some of those, do what I do; make children.”
To Sombron, his children were not as important as him and his desires. They were his slaves. 
 “Family is function and utility. You put blood in. You get loyalty out. My children owe me their life, their love, their absolute dedication.“
Sombron believed children were tools to be used, a means to an end. He did not owe them love nor his affection, but they owed him everything. Zephia learnt from him that a family is about obedience, punishment and discipline. If a family member disobeyed then they can be disposed of. Zephia considered the Four Hounds her family. She punished Mauvier and Marni with powerful magic when they lost two Emblem Rings in Chapter 19: The Dead Town. She disposed of Marni after she disobeyed and tried to break Veyle's magical helmet in Chapter 21: The Return. In Chapter 19: The Dead Town, she even stated that:
 “The Four Hounds are my family. I will always love Mauvier. Always. As long as he obeys. “
Veyle's mother is not only a role model for her daughter but she also gave her daughter an important responsibility; to stop Sombron. Lumera gave Alear the important responsibility to stop Sombron, this is mirrored by Veyle's mother. Veyle’s inability to stop him killing so many people and stealing the power of the Emblem Rings burdened her with feelings of guilt and worthlessness. She felt that she had failed to fulfil the responsibility given to her by her mother. She believed she was weak because Zephia and Sombron were able to manipulate and control her. It wasn't her fault but a kind person like Veyle would place the blame upon herself and torment herself with her perceived inadequacies. 
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caffeineandkerosene · 1 month
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God so I recently started playing sweet pool which I am like. Not the target demographic for lmao, I honestly just came for the cannibalism/autocannibalism ending because while the other topics in the game aren't like, squicks for me they're also not really my thing but then. Oh my god. I was absolutely NOT fucking expecting to latch on to Zenya so hard, like, fuck. I have not related to/resonated with a character to an extent as far as this since I was a teen playing the first ever VN I got my hands on, like. Oh my god.
Essay under the cut because if I don't get my thoughts out I'm going to Explode:
Zenya is a really interesting contrast to Tetsuo, because while Tetsuo's abuse has in no way left him a normal/healthy human being, he is at least functional. Tetsuo is an exceptional student with "a rotation of girlfriends" and is shown multiple times to behave responsibly (remembering trash duty, not wanting to waste food, feeding the stray cat etc.)
But what Zenya's father did to him left Zenya permanently fucked up physically, mentally, and emotionally. Zenya's behavior is so erratic and unstable, he has no friends in school and everyone talks shit about him lmao. He has such obvious trust issues; while it's clear he does care about Kitani, he is convinced Kitani only puts up with his bullshit due to his loyalty to his father and by extension himself.
The shit with Zenya's family has completely isolated him from the rest of the world. Normal people literally can not understand what Zenya is going through, so why even bother? Zenya hates his father for what he did to him; he lashes out, he's moody, he literally can not control his emotions because of the sickness he's been infected with. And yet he still wants love, he still wants to become the functional Male his father wanted (with Zenya's endings he is either going to produce lots of "babies" with Youji or die cradling his intestines imagining they're the children he was supposed to produce).
We can assume based off the lyrics to Zenya's character song that he is extremely lonely (which is also kind of just. obvious given his situation and isolation) but his situation and circumstances make it impossible for him to reach out on a deep level to anyone with the exception of Youji. And oh my fucking god, VLG ending is what made me go fucking feral so let's talk about that.
Zenya is literally shown to be capable of having Kitani kidnap Youji and Tetsuo. AT ANY POINT IN THE GAME, Zenya could have made Kitani kidnap Youji to keep as his sex slave.
But he doesn't. Ever do that.
Zenya will only take Youji if he is gullible enough to fall for his trick. It's so glaringly obvious that Youji shouldn't trust Zenya that I genuinely could not find anything online of people talking about Zenya's ending being the first ending they got (Makoto's seems to be the most popular for people not using guides) even though Zenya's ending is the first chronologically. Zenya only takes Youji as his if he's gullible enough to follow him like a lamb to the slaughter.
Feeling like the only way someone can love you is through violence and control has been hardwired into Zenya's brain (tbh it was to me too through my abusive family though I'm lucky enough to be away from that and in a stable enough position to be able to work on actively unlearning that). Zenya's ending just fucking hit me like a semi truck because I can see how if I had been genuinely permanently trapped in my terrible situation like he is I could have ended up doing something similar. It's fucking chilling.
Literally everything I've talked about so far is already Real As Fuck for my problems specifically but then even Zenya's relationship with gender is similar to mine like oh my god. Zenya is a defective Male and it's hurt him so fucking deeply. Of course he resents perfect Male Tetsuo who easily gets everything that's been ripped away from him, god Zenya's jealousy is written so well. But the fucking awesome thing about Zenya is how he doesn't try to overcompensate masculinity like one might expect him to with a life like that-- Zenya doesn't use his trauma with masculinity as an excuse to resent all things feminine, but the exact opposite. Zenya leans into his nurturing side-- even in his ending where he literally keeps Youji as his sex/breeding slave he talks about how he wants to take care of him, how he wants to bathe with him and eat with him like. Did Tetsuo do ANYTHING remotely similar in the numerous times he raped Youji?? Literally one of the last parts of VLG is Zenya getting Youji clothes to match his beloved Kristi, Kristi whom he loves and does his best to nurture and take care for throughout the entire game, even making plans for how Kristi will be cared for after his inevitable death in the more "canon" endings. I tend not to headcanon gender and sexuality stuff on characters so I'm not going to theorize about what labels Zenya could be but I just want to say, as a bigender person I've never ever had a character I felt represented how I feel about myself and gender fuckery like with Zenya.
Just. God. I could talk even more about Zenya's reactions to canon events + his feelings about the religion and his chances of being saved but I don't think I have any coherency left at this point lmao. I relate to Zenya so fucking hard it kind of hurts, all of his traits are just so fucking real to me. As someone with such deep-running problems that impair my ability to function and react appropriately to stimuli I just honestly haven't seen a character I could relate to this deeply.
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8 shows to get to know me
I was tagged by @haahka​ to deliver the good news of these self-defining TV shows! Wahoo alright let’s go - in alpabetical order so no one feels shafted
1. Bojack Horseman
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The terrible tale of a washed up actor from the nineties trying and failing to regain their mojo - also he’s a depressed horse. Equal parts comedy and devastatingly morose commentary on the human condition. If you finish it and need more please go check out Tuca and Bertie.
2. Chernobyl
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It’s the story of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster! Woohoo everybody party! I’m sure nothing depressing will happen and we’ll all be feeling extremely normal by the end. (Is the best bit of television I’ve ever seen though)
3. House MD
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Hilson shown for...reasons. Anyway I haven’t watched this show in years, I am comstantly battling a demon on my shoulder telling me to change that BUT I say say with great confidence that it’s a foundational text of my media enjoyment. The terrible tale of a drug addled doctor who gets away with eye watering quantities of malpractice due to him being the only guy who can solve medicine’s toughest riddles. Proceedural television never felt so good
4. Red Dwarf
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The terrible tale of the last human in the universe waking up from stasis more than a million years since the rest of the species died off. Dave Lister is stranded on the space ship that was his place of work for the rest of his life, with nothing but a gobby computer, a creature that evolved from his pet cat, a robot and a hologram of his dead bunkmate. Yes, it’s a British comedy from the early nineties. Yes, there are only six episodes a season. Yes, there’s a laugh track. Wait, come back! Where are you going I thought you wanted to watch Red Dwarf!
5. Steven Universe
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The terrible tale of a boy who lives with a piece of his dead mother so visible on his body that most of the galaxy expects him to fulfil her destiny rather than writing his own. The funny thing about Steven Universe is that people are still so mad about it for so many reasons but it remains one of the best TV shows of all time so who’s really winning? Don’t watch unless you can handle kids shows trusting their audience doesn’t need everything spoonfed to them lmao
6. Succession
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The terrible tale of a family who couldn’t lose everything if they tried, and the kids who failed to keep themselves together. If you’re following me and don’t know this show by now then you need to start putting in more hours on tumblr. Also, that’s Tom!
7. Taskmaster
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A despotic control freak and his extremely pathetic and wet assistant force people to compete in a variety of cruel and unusual tasks. Some for the game show to turn your brain off to, stay for the most insane dynamic between two men that you will ever have seen. Then, once you’ve polished off all 15 seasons of the British version, go and enjoy the international Taskmasters. This ride is never going to stop because they’ve discovered the perfect television formula
8. Twin Peaks
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The terrible tale of Laura Palmer, who washes up on the shore of a lake, already dead, and then we get to learn everything about her. TV nerds the world over are ready to gush about this show at a moment’s notice and it’s with good reason. One of the few pieces of anything that really can more or less be all things to all people. Plus, it’s a David Lynch show so it’s weird as hell without apology
tagging @valoricky​ @crustacean-frustrations​ @hickeywiththegoodhair​ @duelsong​ @holy-yeosang​ @tomshivyuri​ @fuckyeahashes​ @bby-daesung​ and anyone else who feels like sharing. You can do it or not. It’s fun to talk about things you like though!
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not about the character’s specifically, but I love hearing your thoughts on the movie as a whole SO is there anything you would take out or add for 2017’s? or is there anything you wish was expanded on/shown more? anything you wish might’ve happened differently?
ahh yeah!! now of course, generally, i wish it could be even longer. more scenes of them falling in love but even more moments after the curse is lifted. there’s so little time to see adam in human form 😭 i would KILL for just like. one quiet moment, one little conversation. but that’s what my ao3 is for, right?🥲 it also just in general makes it harder for me to picture him when i write. which is why i’m trying to watch all of dan stevens movies. need to memorize that boy’s FACE.
i do really love the canon and content that it gives so so much, but i guess, if i had to say, one tiny little thing i wish i could change was how old belle was when her mother died. like it’s fine if they wanna make it tragic and not have her remember her, but she could’ve been like a baby toddler!! i mostly wish this for two reasons:
so maria could’ve known her baby girl just a little more🥺 could’ve seen her take her first steps, heard her say mama 😭 OUGH. i think belle was only about three months old when maria died and that’s just so not enough :(
logistically (and probably no one is thinking about this but me) it makes maurice raising her alone slightly more complicated because at THAT tiny young age, belle would’ve needed a wet nurse of some kind! it’s the 18th century!! there’s no baby formula!!!
but i work that out in my own way: maurice muddles through with giving her cow’s milk on their journey from paris, but when he gets to the village he does meet a kind woman (named rosemary) who sees how much maurice is struggling and sees how weak the baby has become and OFFERS to feed her until she can eat other things. maurice is terribly grateful but also tells her he has hardly anything to pay her. but rosemary promises she’s just happy she could be there for the child. she had her own children but the eldest could look after the younger ones while rosemary tended to belle. her presence is truly a blessing and despite how much maurice is struggling (mentally and financially), she brings a bit of peace in his present stormy life.
and as for rosemary, i think she lives in the village for the first few years of belle’s life, also sort of being her babysitter when maurice does farming work (rosemary’s children adored getting to know little baby belle)
(and not to get too dark here but i do think, in his sadness, maurice sort of considers letting them take belle and raising her as their own. he never says anything to them, but he just feels so lost without maria, and this is exactly what he wanted for belle: a large, loving family. he’s devastated he can never give her that. and he does confess this to père robert, who in turn convinces him that what belle deserves is to be with her own father. that she’s already lost her mother and doesn’t need to lose any more of her own family. so🥲 she of course stays with her beloved papa.)
when belle is around three, rosemary’s family moves back to lyon. (they were hiding out in villeneuve due to the plague). for a while, maurice writes to her every now and then to tell her how belle is doing, and rosemary replies with her own life events, but eventually the correspondence falls to the wayside and their lives grow in separate directions. i like to think, though, that some day, when belle is queen, her and maurice travel to lyon to find rosemary - so belle can personally thank her for everything she did.
SO. don’t worry, writers of batb 2017, i worked it out myself!!!!!! you wish you had my galaxy brain!!!! but all i’m saying is it would’ve been just a bit simpler (and a bit nicer for maria’s sake) if belle had been just That much older. still young enough to not remember, but old enough that maurice could’ve more successfully cared for her on his own. but! i like my little story with rosemary, so we make it work. and i think maurice would’ve had the same dark thoughts of giving her away, even if rosemary hadn’t been nursing her. he had just already felt so unworthy of his beloved family, maria was his saving grace! so carrying on in life without her just genuinely seemed impossible.
other than that (and that really IS a tiny thing, despite how much i just rambled about it) i really don’t have any complaints. obviously i’d always love more of my little sillies falling in love, (no i do not mean i want a sequel - i just wish the movie was like 5 hours long) but that’s what fic is for babey!!! and i’m eternally grateful for all the added scenes, lore, and content that it gives. here’s to my beloved film that really and truly makes me insane💙💛
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How do you think Horikoshi will go about giving both the heroes and villains what they want? How does Midoriya become the hero who saves everyone if Shigaraki wants to destroy everything? How does does Shouto become a hero at all when Dabi wants to kill him and have Endeavour's attention to himself? How does Uraraka become a hero who saves heroes when Toga wants to kill all of them to live the life that only makes her happy? Unless this isn't what the villains want at all.
How indeed! You're asking the same questions the story is asking, and trying to answer currently. How? Well, it's a narrative challenge for the hero kids to overcome, so it makes sense that we wonder HOW.
**There is one statement in your ask here I disagree with but I'll get to that.
You listed out all the villains wants, and then raised the idea at the end that this isn't what they want at all. Nice job! Because you basically explained:
What the hero kids were led to believe at first, and are only now questioning those beliefs----->The conclusion/end point that the hero kids NEED to reach, and are currently heading toward.
Let's look at what the villains seem to want:
Shigaraki: Currently Midoriya isn't sure what is really going on inside Shigaraki's head, but the end goal is to learn that. But the only solid, outward impression he got of Shigaraki was of someone who wants to destroy/get rid of things he doesn't like. But the question is, is that actually what Shigaraki wants? I mean, Shigaraki tells us yes, but literally everything else in the story tells us no. First, Shigaraki wanted to make a world without All Might. Well, during Kamino he got exactly what he wanted (or thought he wanted). But instead of being elated about it, he further sunk into the idea that he's just bound to be miserable forever. So was that really what he wanted?
Touya: Shouto knows more, but he doesn't understand it. He sees Touya wanting revenge for the abuse Endeavor inflicted. Which on the surface is actually true. But if only that was the case, then why would Touya not be satisfied with completely wrecking his dad's name and playing a part in wrecking the society that worships him? Or actually, why not be satisfied with just killing him? Why die WITH him? Does he actually want revenge?
Toga: The belief Ochacko has is that she just wants to kill and be allowed to do so. But we see from Toga's actions that she keeps chasing after people who continue to reject her. Why do that? It's because she wants to. So is all she really wants, just to kill people?
Now let's look at what the villains really want:
Shigaraki: No, his deep down desire isn't to destroy everything. That's the result of being manipulated and gaslit into believing that that's all he is capable of doing. That's the result of believing that the only purpose he serves as a human being is to destroy and bring mourning unto others. That's the result of believing that there is literally no other option for him. What does he actually want? He's said it and shown us a bunch of times. Someone to show up for him, be there for him. He suffered a tragedy (that he currently believes he caused purposefully/believes it was inevitable) and nobody gave a shit at all. He wants someone to give a shit. What he NEEDS is another issue altogether. He NEEDS someone to help break free from that belief he has of himself so he can be set free, and also start to actually grieve, move forward, and heal--rather than marinate in a bunch of terrible feelings constantly. How does Horikoshi please both sides? It's easy--Midoriya helps him break that mindset (I can only destroy) and from there, Shigaraki acknowledges that what happened to his family was an accident. And as a result he stops hating himself so much, stops believing he's only useful to destroy, and starts seeing some sort of value in himself as a living person--all of which is necessary to break free from AFO. The answer is easy as to HOW both sides get what they want. Shigaraki never had anyone save him, but he wants that. Midoriya is the hero who shows up when nobody else will (a la chapter 1), and is the hero who wants to save everyone within his reach. Both get what they want, because it's like filling in a missing piece of a puzzle.
Touya: Yeah sure he wants revenge, but we also learned that he currently thinks his family just moved on from him no problem. We learned that once Touya was convinced his family was content without him, he became suicidal. So, is revenge all he really wants? Or does he actually want what he never got as a kid--a family who wants him and showed him that? This includes Endeavor. He doesn't just want to kill Endeavor out of vengence. He wants a moment where Endeavor is fully acknowledging their relationship--father and son. Touya can't die until he gets that. So...this tells me that no, Touya doesn't just want to simply kill Endeavor. But Shouto views Touya's ambitions as vengeful, rather than seeking something he wants and never got. He points out to Touya that he himself acknowledges Endeavor was abusive to the family, and Touya still wasn't phased by that acknowledgement. Because....yeah, Touya is Endeavor's victim, and Touya sees himself in that light. But Touya isn't looking for someone to acknowledge that Endeavor was abusive, he's looking for Endeavor to acknowledge him. And Shouto just doesn't understand that. His life was different from Touya's. He wanted his dad's attention OFF of him, Touya wants literally the opposite. Shouto doesn't get that about his brother, and therefore his first attempt missed the mark. But the next step for Shouto is seeing what Touya's real pain is. Touya wants that acknowledgement, and Shouto wants his family restored. Both get what they want.
**The statement I disagree with though....idk, saying that Touya wants Endeavor's attention "all to himself" is just incorrect. He wanted his dad to pay any sort of attention to him at all. His backstory showed us that his dad basically cut him off. In Endeavor's mind, spending time with Touya was pointless because he wasn't going to be able to excel in training, so he stopped. He also avoided all of the early stages of Touya's mental deterioration--widening the gap even further, damaging Touya even further. I think it's just putting way too much of a selfish, self-centered light on what Touya was actually struggling with to say that. Sorry, I just am not a fan of that phrasing.
Toga: We saw from her past that literally just because of the quirk she was born with, she was outcasted from her family--while she still lived there. We saw in chapter 341 something pretty much a metaphor for self-harm, showing Toga's negative view of herself. Which also results in her just wanting to BE other people she loves. Her feelings toward people have escalated to her wanting to disappear into their identity, rather than maintain her own. Her interest in blood started out as genuine curiosity, but over time began getting combined with her emotions. And when her negative emotions from constantly being talked down to and rejected by her family boiled over, that's when she snapped. So does she actually want to just kill people, or does she want people to accept her for who she is? She keeps fixating on Ochacko, Izuku, and Tsuyu. She relates Izuku to her first crush, the boy she stabbed--the beginning of when her life REALLY went downhill and fast. It's like she keeps trying to seek some sort of validation from that moment of weakness in her life where she snapped and couldn't help herself. She sees how Ochacko and Tsuyu were trusting friends of each other, and she sees how Ochacko and Izuku trust each other, a lot. She wants those things, and she wants those things from the part of society that keeps turning her away. Because she wants acceptance from--you guessed it--the part of society that most people are a part of, the part she was outcasted from, the part her family still exists in, the part she used to exist in. How is this resolved? Ochacko learning what really hurts Toga is a good start. Toga already tried explaining why her life sucks, but Ochacko just heard a bunch of excuses for why Toga hurts others. Ocha now has a more open mind, and based on the last time we saw her, it seems like she's ready to truly listen this time, to why Toga hurts. Reaching that understanding is a good way to lead into them working together, and giving both sides what they want.
Assuming the League end up helping the heroes fight against AFO and whoever chooses to remain on his side (which is what I think will happen), then indirectly--Midoriya did save everyone. Saved Shigaraki from AFO's control, and by proxy everyone Shigaraki helps save can be considered something Midoriya contributed to.
To me, the trajectory is easy to see happen. The details of how I obviously don't know, and can only make guesses at. But the necessary events that are needed for both sides to get what they want are pretty clearly laid out for us.
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