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Okay Walter White was actually pretty funny as a character bc he was so toxic that seasoned drug lords were like I cannot work w this man I have to put my mental health first
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mikuyuuss · 4 months
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I found a way to merge my two hyperfixations
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based on this tweet.
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redr1vers · 1 year
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walter doesn’t become a worse man over the course of brba. he just gets better at lying to himself about it. he always has that streak of cruelty in him - that part of him that keeps itself afloat by putting others down. we see it in season one in how he blackmails and verbally abuses jesse, how he treats that failing student, when he explodes the rich man’s car, when he beats up walt jr’s bullies. some of these things may have been justified - but through all of them we see walt being driven, energized, by those rushes of power, of cruelty. they may be justified, but that’s not why he did it. that’s just why he tells himself he did it, once it’s done. he was always driven by that rush of power, of cruelty, since day one.
and as time goes on we see how he gets better at these little excuses. he indulges himself more and more, bit by bit. he excuses his behavior towards his wife, his son, to jesse, to hank. walt uses jesse as a kind of life-raft, to keep his excuses and his yearning for power afloat. jesse is malleable, manipulatable, controllable. as the show’s body count rises walt tells jesse it’s alright, tells jesse it was all necessary, that they did what they had to do. he berates jesse to boost his own ego, uses jesse to keep himself in control, keeps jesse in an agonizing subordinate position all through the show, so he always has someone to keep him on top. to give him the power, the ego, the reassurance, the forgiveness that he needs. he isolates jesse, guilts jesse, shames jesse, and then when jesse breaks and does what walt wants - such as killing gale - he showers jesse with assurances, reminders that it’s okay. they did what they had to. there was no other choice.
and even as jesse forgives walt, over and over, buying walt’s excuses and manipulation, jesse can’t quite forgive himself. part of him understands it’s all bullshit. we see jesse try to fight it, without realizing who he’s fighting - screaming at the narcotics anonymous meeting, asking why? why does he, who killed a man, get to move on, say it means nothing, claim it was justified? by season 4, he’s accepted that it’s bullshit. he knows he’s a bad guy. he doesn’t do what walt does - chase himself in circles excusing, explaining, what he’s done. and so the rift between them - despite walt’s best efforts - starts to grow.
by the end of the show, walt doesn’t even need an excuse: walt is the excuse. he believes he’s the exception; the one who’s so smart, so exceptional, so special that whatever it takes to get his way is simply necessary. walter and heisenberg aren’t separate people, not really - it was all walter, right from the start - but walter likes to believe that they are; because heisenberg is special. heisenberg deserves better, so he should get better, no matter whose lives are at stake. it’s the classic case of a white man born and bred to believe he’s above all consequences.
so “heisenberg” isn’t a different person, not really. walt doesn’t turn into someone different over the course of the show. he is the same man, from the start to the end - an angry, bitter old man with an extraordinary capacity for cruelty.
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miasmultifandomdump · 8 months
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I'm thinking about Jesse Pinkman and honestly, I hate Walter. Did Jesse do some incredibly stupid stuff? Yes! Was he a kid who didn't deserve to be dragged into the mess that an older man he was said by his parents to have looked up created? ALSO YES. And the way Walter blames everything on Jesse. It's like it doesn't even occur to him that he's a grown ass man who needs to take responsibility. I hate him so much.
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I’ve Never Watched Breaking Bad Before, Here Are My Thoughts (2x01-2x04)
I know that this fandom is split into team “Walt was always like that” and team “the circumstances of the show made Walt like that” and I’m not even halfway through Season 2 yet but I fall firmly into the former category. There’s just something about the way he interacts with the main cast now that tells you he’s been itching to act like this for years, and being Heisenberg has finally given him the excuse to drop the pathetic act
That scene in 2x01 between Skyler and Walt was very difficult to watch, I knew it wasn’t going to get worse thanks to spoilers but I was tense all the same. And yeah, he’s a great character, but that turned me against Walt as a person for what I’m led to believe will be the rest of the show.
I’m still going back and forth on how I feel about Hank
Flynn is very quickly rising in the list of my favorites. He’s a smart, sweet kid who deserved a lot better than what he’s got so far.
Is Skyler just going to be pregnant like…the whole show or something
Also I feel worse and worse for Jesse every time he pops up on screen. I was rooting for him to hit Walt when he finally did.
Hector Salamanca is a supportive uncle who won’t tell on Jesse? I have no choice but to stan
I honestly thought Tuco was going to last a lot longer than he did. But if he was what TV Tropes would call the “Disc-One Final Boss” then I’m a little scared to see what’s in store for Walt and Jesse…
Again, Skyler can do practically no wrong
This show just keeps getting better and better and more addictive. I can’t wait to see more!
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... What if Walter became a vampire?
Actually, now that I think about it, that would be very bad for everyone involved. Like Mike said, the man is a time bomb and you don't want to be around for the boom.
Somehow, I can imagine Walter ends up destroying the Volturi and dooming humanity after a full season of thinking Aro is going to kill him any second.
The thing is, Walter White probably wouldn't run into the Volturi and he wouldn't really be able to conceptualize them as powerful people or people he wants to be (e.g. Gus). To him they'd be nutjobs who go around killing vampires and insist on them all being secret.
Walter agrees he shouldn't be near people as he ah tends to eat them but... well...
But to back up a bit, let's turn Walt into a vampire.
Walter White's Problems Go Sideways
We'll say that Walt has already started. He's learned he has lung cancer, he's found Jesse, he's killed Crazy Eight in his basement and had to do the cleanup, and things are not going great but meth is being made.
Then he gets eaten by a vampire.
Only, the vampire doesn't get very far because Walter and his radiated lung cancer tastes like shit (canonically, illnesses, substance abuse, etc. can seriously fuck with your taste). They scamper off, not having intended on turning cancer ridden Walter White, and Walter is left... very confused.
His skin is some strange carbon substance that under a microscope looks eeriely close to diamond. He's breaking everything he touches and uh... he ate a guy in a Walmart parking lot.
Walt desperately runs out into the desert and is terrified of going home a) looking like this b) having eaten someone. Something has gone very very very wrong with him and he doesn't think it's the cancer.
Then Walter realizes it doesn't matter.
He's dying anyway and he must provide for his family.
Walt puts on a hazmat suit he stole from a lab (as he now has no fingerprints), which helps with the um people smell that keeps driving him mad, and spends an episode bullying Jesse into helping him fake his death.
(Walter ends up eating another poor person and, not knowing what else to do, they shove the man in Walter's car then light it on fire. Walter White has now died in an awful awful car explosion.)
There's a very sad funeral that Walter attends from the shadows. Gretchen and Elliott show up, Hank gives a eulogy on how Walt was kind of a nerd, Walt hates it so much.
Jesse's asking what the fuck is going on, he's seen lung cancer and that ain't no stage he's ever heard of bitch, and Walter (who doesn't know the answer either) blows him off and tells Jesse he's stupid. They also have a lot of meth to make. Find a new Crazy Eight.
"You killed Crazy Eight," Jesse points out.
Yeah, well, let's get a new one.
So, Jesse regretfully goes to talk to Tuco. This goes poorly. Walt then has to go confront Tuco himself (which is um... bad news...) and ends up eating both Tuco and all of his people.
Walter decides not to tell Jesse this.
"I took care of Tuco" he says instead, having rescued their meth (and cash from Tuco's safe).
Jesse's impressed and a little disturbed, he has no idea how to answer this.
(Hank, meanwhile, thinks drug lords have reached a new low. Someone set their pet dog/bear/something on Tuco Salamanca and ate his entire face. Just. Wow. What a way to go. Hank is celebratory but even he's grossed out by this one.)
Well, Jesse and Walt (now always in a hazmat suit, by the way) are back to square one. They have a whole lotta meth and no one to sell it to.
Walt, slowly getting over his existential horror of being a cannibal, suggests that they sell it on the street. Jesse points out that's mad, the gangs control distribution, if they try to get in on that, massively, they are fucked.
"I can take care of it," Walter promises, having at this point tested out his new, invulnerable, ridiculously strong body.
Walter is easily able to steal them more and better supplies (moving faster than cameras can trace, leaving no prints, etc. And takes out anyone who even thinks at looking at Badger or whoever funny.
(Hank, meanwhile, is seeing a pattern of someone setting their bear loose on every one of Salamanca's men. They've got a gang war going on. Fuck.)
Gus is also noticing and keeps Gale well off the street and asks Mike to look into this.
Mike finds himself very confused. These are low level punks, local kids who dropped out of school and destroyed their lives with meth, but they're not gangsters. They clearly have no idea what they're doing and no muscle.
So who keeps killing everybody?
Unfortunately for Walter, the Volturi are also starting to take notice, as this is a lot of people dead in Albuquerque from rogue cocaine bears. Oddly focused on the human drug trade, but the signs are unmistakable. Aro sends Demetri and Felix off to deal with it.
Sure enough, they catch Walter's scent and ah...
The show's suddenly over when two cosplayers take Walter (in his hazmat suit) out in an alley.
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spaceagerabbit · 1 year
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i would beat walter white up with my own two hands if he wasn’t already dead and it wasn’t generally frowned upon to beat the living shit out of people
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chickenmolelover · 4 months
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sorry if this upsets y’all but do you guys think jesse pinkman self harms he def does bro personal headcanon
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kirboner · 1 year
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I can’t get over how reasonable Skylar is in season 4 like. She’s a trained bookkeeper and urges Walter all season to stick to a planned story both for consistency in their personal life but because she knows how easy it is to pick up accounting errors/fraud. Not only are the accountants that work for the IRS trained specifically to hone in on that kind of thing already, but she recognizes how dangerous it would be if they had a reason to look though their records. Not only this but as she’s working to craft a believable and legitimate story her husband in his best Scarface impression is pulling the worst attention attracting stunts possible while he’s meant to be “unemployed.” expensive champagne. buying a sports car upfront. considering laundering money through a laser tag all while continuing to keep secrets from her, which obviously leads her to imagine the worst for her meth dealing husband like. Walter could have valued her professional input along with the perspective she could provide as a party not directly involved in cooking instead of acting petulant and condescending and “oh she just doesn’t get the things that I do for our family” BRO TELL HER 
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amagicalduck47 · 2 years
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The "anti Walter White" tag is so funny to me because that's just understanding the point of the show. If you're not anti Walter White then you weren't paying attention
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“But Skyler fucked Ted!” I wish she’d fucked Walter’s mom actually. I wish she’d told Walt to kill himself every day for breakfast lunch and dinner. I wish she had taught Holly to say “dad sucks” as her first words. So no she wasn’t perfect.
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mikuyuuss · 7 months
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As much as I love to hate on Walt, there's also a part of me that can understand his frustrations of not being able to share his """"achievements""" with his family. Walt always felt like an underachiever. He is an overqualified highschool chemistry teacher. His students don't even respect him. He struggles trying to make ends meet just to provide for his family, and not to mention his regrets surrounding gray matter.. (which is kinda his fault, like Eliott offered to work with him again but he refused 🤷‍♀️) but the thing thing is, all of it served to make him feel humiliated and emasculated.
And then he got into the Meth Business and he is finally excelling at something that he is good at. He finally sees himself becoming the capable breadwinner of his family. Ofc he would be proud of it, I mean who wouldn't want to share your achievements with your loved ones and be recognized for it?
Except he can't, because his family would hate him if they knew he's a drug dealer. Rather than being the capable provider that he wished to be seen, Walt thinks that he is still very much the poor and helpless dad in the eyes of his family. I remember when Jr opened a website to help fund Walt's cancer treatment even though the latter is more than capable of paying for it. Then Jr gets featured on the tv for it and the whole time the focus was on him even if Walt was the one who secretly paid it. It was kinda funny ngl, but the point is Walt WANTS to be recognized but he couldn't and that frustrates him.(Except he is. Poor Flynn, he genuinely loved and looked up to his dad as A PERSON only Walt doesn’t see that.)
This is where Jesse Pinkman comes in. Jesse knew the side of Walt that his family doesn't, someone who he can share his criminal achievements and be recognized for it. They are partners after all, except Walt is the one in control.
I think its interesting how they put so much emphasis on Jesse being Walt's former highschool student. It already establishes the imbalance between them. Walt sees his job as a highschool teacher to be humiliating already and Jesse happens to be one of his inattentive students. So the fact that Jesse grew to admire and respect him is probably something that Walt views as an accomplishment. Jesse addressing Walt as "Mister White" is very telling. It's definitely the first step to fueling his ego, and it validates his want for power.
and I feel like as Walt became more and more estranged from his family. He starts projecting those frustrations to Jesse. His students don't take his classes seriously? well at least his former student Jesse does. His own son still thinks he is "helpless"? well at least Jesse doesn't. His wife hates him? At least he still got Jesse-
Walt wants to keep Jesse around him at all times to fuel his ego. He projects not just a teacher-student relationship with him, but also a pseudo son in him, and when its convenient for him, a pseudo mistress. (Like let's be real for a second, the Skyler and Jesse parallels are too obvious. One of the creators purposely mirrored some of their scenes, the actors even joke about it) Walt is just messed up like that.
and thus poor Jesse was dumped with fulfilling all of these different roles for Walt all at once (bc most of the important people in his life couldn't give that to him) It so happens that Jesse is a lonely and impressionable young man, who also seeks for validation, but in a mentor figure. This makes him susceptible to Walt's manipulations. All of these is what led to their relationship becoming as codependent and as toxic is we know in the show. By keeping Jesse around, Walt gets to have the sense of recognition that he always wanted.
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redr1vers · 1 year
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i don’t blame jesse for changing his name in el camino if i had to hear that slimy ass bald bastard screeching JESSE!!!!! every episode for 6 seasons i’d change my name too
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bigbazoxngas · 1 year
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"Vamonos" "I wish..."
"[...] we've seen both Skyler and Jesse dissolve into semi-fugue states: They're trapped, and worse, they've been stripped of the will to fight. They're tarantulas in glass jars with holes poked in the top so they can breathe, alive but paralyzed, with no way out. [...] There's nothing stopping them, really, except that the idea of leaving has become impossible" - Walter White is An Abuser, Wired
Love in The Morning - Ennio Morricone
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bloodmoneys · 1 year
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if breaking bad took place in 2022 walter white would watch sigma male grindset videos
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Assuming he was interested and took the case, do you think L could catch Heisenberg? Would it be difficult for him to do so?
Easily.
Jimmy does this pathetically easily in canon. He's able to very quickly track down Mr. Walter White as being Heisenberg, walks into the school where he works, and immediately knows it's him.
What made it so hard to catch Walter is that he was not at all what people were picturing and he was too close to Hank who never thought it'd be someone he has such a personal connection with.
Walter had motive if you were willing to acknowledge it (the need to make money fast, a death sentence which loosens restrictions he'd otherwise impose on himself), he goes through weird personal crises including losing his memories, presumably having an affair given Skylar's reactions, supposedly experimenting with drugs, then suddenly winning a ton of money at "gambling" through a super secret card counting trick that the casino's haven't caught onto, and oh yes buying a car wash out of nowhere. Buying the two race cars out of nowhere as well and then setting one on fire.
And of course, the ongoing mystery of the RV, the connection to Jesse Pinkman which keeps coming up but makes no sense to outsiders, the gas masks from the school that were stolen and they just assumed the janitor was involved given prior history.
Walt screamed dirty to anyone who looked directly at him. He was really bad at hiding it if you thought to suspect him. He got away with it because no one ever did because he looks like this mild-mannered middle-aged man dying of cancer and because it was Hank's case and Hank's his brother-in-law.
As it is, I'm not sure L would be interested in gang/drug type activities, as it's not really the international super detective scene, you know? I imagine he'd find the case quite dull.
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