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MHA Chapter 405 spoilers translations
This week’s initial tentative super rough/literal translations under the cut.
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tagline 風は吹いた‼︎ かぜはふいた‼︎ kaze wa fuita!! The wind blew!!
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1 "ここ"じゃなかったのか…?ナイトアイ "koko" ja nakatta no ka...? NAITOAI Wasn't it "here"...? Nighteye
2 "ここ"だったよオールマイト "koko" datta yo OORU MAITO It was "here," All Might.
3 "ここ"が夢の終わりだった "ここ"がゆめのおわりだった "koko" ga yume no owari datta "Here" was the end of [your] dream.
tagline No.405 ラスボス‼︎ 堀越耕平 ナンバー405 ラスボス‼︎ ほりこしこうへい NANBAA 405  RASU BOSU!!   Horikoshi Kouhei No. 405 Last Boss!!  Kouhei Horikoshi
4 運命が捻じ曲がったんだよ うんめいがねじまがったんだよ unmei ga nejimagattanda yo Fate was twisted.
5 たしかに君の夢は たしかにきみのゆめは tashika ni kimi no yume wa For certain, your dream
6 彼処で終わった あそこでおわった asoko de owatta ended over there.
7 そして soshite And then...
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1 約束が残った やくそくがのこった yakusoku ga nokotta [your] promise remained.
2 "先達は死して託す"と相場は決まってるのにな "せんだつはししてたくす"とそうばはきまってるのにな "sendatsu wa shi shite takusu" to souba wa kimatteru noni na Even though the price of "die and leave everything to my predecessor" was decided, huh? (Note: I think All Might is poking fun at Nighteye's business lingo here and saying something like "the speculating market price became fixed" by his decision to sacrifice himself.)
3 それは架空の話さ八木俊典 それはコミックのはなしさやぎとしのり sore wa KOMIKKU no hanashi sa Yagi Toshinori That's [something from] a comic book story, Toshinori Yagi.
4 幻覚に何を言わせてんだろうね私は げんかくになにをいわせてんだろうねわたしは genkaku ni nani wo iwasetendarou ne watashi wa Just what am I making these illusions say, I wonder?
5 ヒーローであり人間だもの ヒーローでありにんげんだもの HIIROO de ari ningen da mono [You] are a hero and a human being.
6 楽には死ねないさ らくにはしねないさ raku ni wa shinenai sa [You] can't die that easily.
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1 何だ⁉︎ なんだ⁉︎ nanda!? "What's that!?"
2 爆破の"個性"…⁉︎ ばくはの"こせい"…⁉︎ bakuha no "kosei"...!? "An explosion quirk...!?"
3 あれ…昔 敵連合にら致られた… あれ…むかし ヴィランれんごうにらちられた… are...mukashi VIRAN rengou ni rachirareta... "That's... A while ago, he was kidnapped by the League of Villains..."
4 名前何だっけ…体育祭で拘束されてた… なまえなんだっけ…たいいくさいでこうそくされてた… namae nandakke...taiikusai de kousoku sareteta... "What was his name... He was restrained at the sports festival..."
5 っで dde "Deh!" (Note: These are just funny noises they're making as they skid on the roof.)
6 だっ da "Dah!" (Note: These are just funny noises they're making as they skid on the roof.)
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1 バクゴー‼︎ BAKUGOO!! "Bakugou!!"
2 ハア…! HAA...! "Haah...!" (Note: This is a heavy breathing noise.)
3 ハア…! HAA…! "Haah...!" (Note: This is a heavy breathing noise.)
4 爆豪…少年!大丈夫か…⁉︎ ばくごう…しょうねん!だいじょうぶか…⁉︎ "Young...Bakugou! Are you okay...!?"
5 こっちの台詞じゃ! こっちのせりふじゃ! kocchi no serifu ja! "Ain't that my line?!"
6 ヨボヨボのジイさんがよ YOBOYOBO no JII-san ga yo "You senile old man!"
7 ボッ BO "Ble-"
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1 こっちの…台詞でもあるんだ…が⁉︎ こっちの…せりふでもあるんだ…が⁉︎ kocchi no...serifu demo arunda...ga!? "But...that's also...my line too!?"
2 ヨボボボボボ YOBOBOBOBOBO "Bleghhh!" (Note: I think this is just a funny throwing up sound effect.)
3 エッジショット⁉︎ EJJISHOTTO!? "Edgeshot!?"
4 中に溜まった血を吐かせた…少しは楽になったか…? なかにたまったちをはかせた…すこしはらくになったか…? naka ni tamatta chi wo hakaseta...sukoshi wa raku ni natta ka...? "I made you vomit out the blood that collected inside you...do you feel any better...?"
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1 各臓器折れた骨… かくぞうきおれたほね… kakuzouki oreta hone... "For each of your organs and broken bones..."
2 俺の体で おれのからだで ore no karada de "using my body"
3 秘伝袴田流もやい結びを施した故 ひでんはかまだりゅうもやいむすびをほどこしたゆえ hiden Hakamada-ryuu moyai musubi wo hodokoshita yue "I made the secret Hakamada-style bowline knot, so that"
4 まず綻ぶことはない…! まずほころぶことはない…! mazu hokorobu koto wa nai...! "above all, they won't collapse...!"
5 だが…一息が地獄の痛みの筈だ だが…ひといきがじごくのいたみのはずだ daga...hitoiki ga jigoku no itami no hazu da "But...every breath must be like pain from hell."
6 動いていい身体じゃない…! うごいていいからだじゃない…! ugoite ii karada ja nai...! "It's not a body that's okay to move...!"
7 わーってる waatteru "I get it."
8 生かしてくれて いかしてくれて ikashite kurete "For keeping me alive"
9 ありがとう先輩 ありがとうせんぱい arigatou senpai "thank you, senpai." (Note: If you don't know, "senpai" is how one addresses their senior coworker or upperclassman in Japan.)
10 …俺は… …おれは… ...ore wa... "...I..."
11 繋いだだけだ つないだだけだ tsunaida dake da literal. "merely connected it." context. "merely tied you back together."
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1 心肺を強制的に動かし続けてはいたが しんぱいをきょうせいてきにうごかしつづけてはいたが shinpai wo kyouseiteki ni ugokashi tsudzukete wa ita ga "Although I continued to force your heart and lungs to work,"
2 意識が戻らなかった いしきがもどらなかった ishiki ga modoranakatta "you did not regain consciousness."
3 忍法千枚通し"極"は にんぽうせんまいどおし"きょく"は ninpou senmai dooshi "kyoku" wa "Ninpou Thousand-Sheet Pierce 'Zenith'"
4 自身の生命活動を削る姿 じしんのせいめいかつどうをけずるすがた jishin no seimei katsudou wo kezuru sugata "takes the form of whittling down my own biological activities."
5 限界を迎えーー… げんかいをむかえーー… genkai wo mukae--... "As I reached my limit--..."
6 "自分"か"爆豪"を天秤に掛けざるを得なくなった頃 "じぶん"か"ばくごう"をてんびんにかけざるをえなくなったころ "jibun" ka "Bakugou" wo tenbin ni kakesaru wo enakunatta koro "when I was forced to weigh both me and Bakugou in the balance,"
7 血流に乗り けつりゅうにのり ketsuryuu ni nori "[something] riding in your bloodstream"
8 流れてきた ながれてきた nagarete kita "started to flow through."
9 それは sore wa "That [thing I saw] was"
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1 "死"の直前爆豪の全身から溢れ出ていた "し"のちょくぜんばくごうのぜんしんからあふれでていた "shi" no chokuzen Bakugou no zenshin kara afure dete ita "overflowing from Bakugou's entire body just before his 'death.'"
2 小さな汗の玉 ちいさなあせのたま chiisa na ase no tama "A small bead of sweat."
3 俺は… おれは… ore wa... "I
4 繋いだだけだ つないいだだけだ tsunaida dake da "merely tied you back together."
5 "目覚めさせた"のは "めざめさせた"のは "mezamesaseta" no wa "What awakened you was"
6 お前が磨いてきた"個性"だ おまえがみがいてきた"ちから"だ omae ga migaite kita "chikara (kanji: kosei)" da "the power (read as: quirk) that you've honed."
7 つーか状況的にAFOだと思ったら何だあの光るチビブッとばす つーかじょうきょうてきにオール・フォー・ワンだとおもったらなんだあのひかるチビブッとばす tsuu ka jyoukyouteki ni OORU FOO WAN da to omottara nanda ano hikaru CHIBI BUttobasu "Anyways, because of the situation I thought that was All For One, but what's that glowing runt I bum-rushed*?" (*Note: Literally he says "rushed at/attacked/blew away [his arms]." I tried to add slang and emphasis to the word with "bum-rush" because Katsuki uses the BU- prefix.)
8 AFOだよ少年 オール・フォー・ワンだよしょうねん OORU FOO WAN da yo shounen "It is All For One, young man."
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1 手を てを te wo "[Give me] your hand."
small text "凝血"で動けない "ぎょうけつ"でうごけない "gyouketsu" de ugokenai "I can't move due to Bloodcurdle."
2 もう機能は失っているが… もうきのうはうしなっているが… mou kinou wa ushinatte iru ga... "Although it's already lost its functionality..."
3 添え木くらいにはなる そえぎくらいにはなる soegi kurai ni wa naru "it'll be like a splint."
4 "大・爆・殺・神 "だい・ばく・さっ・しん "dai baku sas shin "Great Explosion Murder God"
5 ダイナマイト" DAINAMAITO" "Dynamight." (Note: The quotation marks denote that this is the name of the gauntlet, not that All Might is merely saying Katsuki's hero name.)
6 こんなものしか…与えてやれないが… こんなものしか…あたえてやれないが… konna mono shika...ataete yarenai ga... "This is the thing...I can give you..."
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1 ……いや…後回しだ!ここまできたらOFAを先に頂く‼︎ ……いや…あとまわしだ!ここまできたらおとうとをさきにいただく‼︎ ......iya...ato mawashi da! koko made kitara otouto (kanji: OFA) wo saki ni itadaku!! ......No...postpone that! If I've gotten to this point, I'll take my little brother (read as: One For All) first!!
2 その為に弔の強すぎる精神を完全に乗っ取らねば! そのためにとむらのつよすぎるせいしんをかんぜんにのっとらねば! sono tame ni Tomura no tsuyo sugiru seishin wo kanzen ni nottoraneba! To do that, I have to completely take over Tomura's overly strong spirit!
3 "本体"自身の"個性"を弔に"与え"なければ…! "ぼく"じしんの"こせい"をとむらに"あたえ"なければ…! "boku (kanji: hontai)" jishin no "kosei" wo Tomura ni "atae" nakereba...! I have to give Tomura the quirk from my main body...!
4-5 そもそも向こうの"精神"が主導権を握れていれば…! そもそもむこうの"ぼく"がしゅどうけんをにぎれていれば…! somosomo mukou no "boku (kanji: seishin)" ga shudouken wo nigirete ireba...! If only the me (read as: spirit) over there had seized control in the first place...!
6 腸が煮えくり返る…! はらわたがにえくりかえる…! harawata ga niekurikaeru...! My insides* are boiling over...! (*Note: Literally, this word means "intestines.")
7 何故こうもーー なぜこうもーー naze kou mo-- Why--
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1 歯車が狂う⁉︎ はぐるまがくるう⁉︎ haguruma ga kuruu!? is everything going so awry like this!? (Note: This idiom literally reads as "Why are the gears going amiss!?")
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1 俺がラスボスだAFO‼︎ おれがラスボスだオール・フォー・ワン‼︎ ore ga RASUBOSU da OORU FOO WAN!! "I'm the final boss, All For One!!"
2-3 風は僕に吹いていた筈だ‼︎ かぜはぼくにふいていたはずだ‼︎ kaze wa boku ni fuite ita hazu da!! Literal. The wind should have been blowing to me!! Context. The wind should have been blowing my way!!
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tagline 繋がれた一撃‼︎ つながれたいちげき‼︎ tsunagareta ichigeki!! One blow lands!!
1 OFAに拭えねーもんは あいつにぬぐえねーもんは aitsu (kanji: OFA) ni nuguenee mon wa "What he (read as: One For All) can't handle..."
2 こっちで拭うってなぁああ!!! こっちでぬぐうってなぁああ!!! kocchi de nuguu tte naaaa!!! "I'll handle right here!!!" (Note: This line is a callback to the words Katsuki spoke in his apology to Izuku in chapter 322.)
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markantonys · 3 months
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season 3 episode 7 is titled "goldeneyes"! (source)
definitely makes me think this episode will focus on the battle of the two rivers and climax of perrin's plotline while 3x08 will focus on the climax of rand & co's plotline, but we shall see!
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percyjacksonfan3 · 7 months
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Honest question, what the fuck is going on with Buttons this season??
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sulatni-flerida11 · 5 months
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Spoilers for Secret Life Session 8
~ Cleo's POV
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Video Transcript
Cleo: *coming from Scott's place* Good things.
Etho: Status report?
Cleo: Scott gave me a stack of bones to use for our wolf spawner.
Etho: *pause* Really? Was he trying to get you into his favorites book again or what?
Cleo: I mean, Scott's always one of my favorite people and I don't think we'd ever attack each other unless it was like... y'know, you guys [Etho & Grian] against him [Scott]. That's it.
Etho: Mhm.
Cleo: Team first; You know me...
Etho: Mhm, mhm...
Cleo: ... and Scott's always on that second tier of people I don't attack.
Etho: Yeah. He's your Bdubs, basically.
Cleo: Yeah, he's my Bdubs, yeah.
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Something about that conversation made me think "Huh... that's a really good way to put their dynamics."
Bonus points for Grian promising his loyalty to Cleo and Etho, followed by all three of them agreeing they'd stay a solid team until the end.
Cleo's sentiments about Scott matches Etho's sentiments about Bdubs, too (the "team first" part). We already know that Etho would defend Cleo & Grian no matter what from Session 7's apocalypse. For Cleo, I'd say the main way they proved it was her unwillingness to kill Etho to get more hearts as a red name this session (which was Scott's suggestion).
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The whole server's on red now. Next session is gonna be the last one, and if it isn't, then I'll be amazed.
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One last thing, but Etho and Cleo's conversation that I put here (check smaller text below) just reminded me of Etho thinking that Gem & The Scotts wanted to take Cleo along in their trade in Session 2 (?), which made Etho immediately defensive of her ?? Then Cleo and Etho go "No I'm not leaving [the other]!" "We're besties! We're besties now!"
(It was the "Really? Was he trying to get you into his favorites book again or what?" part... ngl it made me laugh a bit upon realizing LMAO)
I'm gonna miss their duo when the season is over :') Fingers crossed that they'd still have interactions like this in future seasons (or maybe even Hermitcraft?) because their dynamic is everything to me.
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ezralva · 7 months
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Finally this scene tomorrow 😳
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hanzajesthanza · 9 months
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if i thought the witcher was painfully realistic. i was wrong. it is a very clear fairytale that comforts and soothes. even in its realistic take on the genre, it inspires, even in its tragedy, it comforts.
evil is defeated epically in a final battle in the darkness, the valiant heroes fall together, the lovers die united, and all pass into legend and are remembered for ever and ever. and the spirit of our hero returns now and again to save and deliver us from evil… they become legend and in that legend they are immortal…
#txt#the witcher books#OK HUSSITE TRILOGY SPOILERS IN TAGS:#like i cant say that evil WASNT defeated in the hussite trilogy because he definitely was but not in an epic final battle but#the fact that its like in the very penultimate bit and its not reynevan who does it but his NIECE it is just so…#we came all this way and there was no ultimate showdown#i mean there kind of was but not in a big castle but in some plains with a windmill and#it wasnt really a final battle but a kill-eachothers-girlfriends bit#birkart didnt even get his hands NEAR samson before he died#scharley and reynevan just left… at the end… just like in the beginning of the first book EXCEPT NOT because everything has changed them#well has changed reynevan. kind of dandelion and geralt in that way as the second man remains a constant#reynevan no longer being like a young man but a. man. but this didnt come with grand heroism and valour. it just came with. pain and#the eventual wearing down and tarnishing of his zeal and belief and love#thats … literally so fucking dark but also so realistic and it scares me lmaooooo#and people say the witcher was anticlimatic and sad at the end LMAOOOO OHHHH NOOOOO#lux perpetua like damn that dude really was walking in darkness groping along like a blind man after losing his eternal light#ohhhhh i get it now so god has abandoned us and he also never really existed ohhh okay#his love died as he was helpless to save her and he didnt even avenge his brother and his friend trio crumpled#like like. just trying to put this all into perspective
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Round 3, Match 7: Sting vs. Darksaber
Sting
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From: Lord of the Rings
Wielder: Bilbo and Frodo Baggins
Sting is an elvish dagger that happens to make a perfect sword for a hobbit. Like all elvish weapons, it glows blue when orcs are near. Bilbo used it to fend off giant spiders, and passed it onto Frodo, who also used it to intimidate Gollum.
Darksaber
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From: Star Wars
Wielder: Din Djarin
The Darksaber was created a long time ago by Tarre Vizsla, the first Mandalorian ever inducted into the Jedi Order. It is said that whoever wields it is the true ruler of Mandalore. It is unique for not only being the only black lightsaber, but the only lightsaber to feature a blade shaped like a katana rather than the cylindrical design of other lightsabers. In addition, according to Mandalorian tradition it can only be claimed by besting the current wielder in a duel.
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mamuttuth · 4 months
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He is so tired. He is so exhausted. Physically and emotionally. And panicking vestiges not helping like at all. Like imagine it, you’re trying to think what to do and the voices in your head shouting different choices. Idk how he still sane with so many people in his head. And he’s overthinking everything, EVERYTHING, and he don’t have time to do this right now.
He never in his short life run away from trouble and danger. And what 6th suggests? Run and hide. Without 4th Dancer Sense he’s not so good at dodging. His not like Katsuki who’s reflexes on high level like some wild predator. Yes they training and fighting together but Izuku only repeated moves that he saw from someone (in my opinion and observation). He parodied All Might punch’s, repeated Katsukis movements, kicking like Ida taught him. Use black whip like Asui and Sero. Yes, he combines his quirks now and that’s great! Honestly. But
I think Izuku is struggling now. He still hasn't figured out how to save everyone including Tomura/Tenko.
I just hope, he will not come to the conclusion of sacrificing himself for everyone else.
Like 6th suggested once in the Lady Nagant fight that Izuku relied on his quirks too much. I think he still thought of himself like not worthy like successor. It’s spiraling somewhere on background of his mind and he thinks that he failed again.
And I do believe that somehow Kurogiri/Shirakumo will play a role in convincing Tomura that destroying everything not an option. Maybe we will see Aizawa with his eraser quirk save the day again.
I’m not complaining, never, I’m not an expert, ever. It’s just some random thoughts about last chapter.
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naoiseart · 1 year
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Titans of Kronos Islands
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emsylcatac · 10 months
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One of the things that really annoys me is that at the end absolutely every channel that broadcasts season 5 heavily spoiled the series. I also don't like the season's finale poster
Yeah I've been avoiding trailers for the finale so far because I don't want to be spoiled 😬 channels really be children, like they're not even gonna drop the finale soon but nooo since they weren't first they gotta spoil as much as possible for attention 🙄
And. Um. We don't talk about the poster 🙂 it ruins my excitement for it and really don't need the randos to come, they were fine staying in a parallel universe that isn't too canon in my mind 🤪
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pikahlua · 2 months
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In regards to your post on Izuku’s self sacrificial traits, how do you think the dark hero arc plays into this? I thought the point of it was to sort of pull his self sacrificial nature back a bit with the whole “you can’t do it on your own” and “don’t kill yourself for the cause” thing. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive, i get that “bakugou looks up to Deku’s self sacrificial nature as a positive trait he doesn’t have” and “Deku should rely on others and not hurt himself” can both coexist. But they also give mixed messages narratively. Is one not condemning it while the other puts it on a pedestal?
THANK YOU!!! For taking the bait.
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I've been ranting about this theme a bit because, from what I can tell, it might be the biggest point MHA is trying to make to answer the question "What is a hero?" Because of MHA's length, the points of the argument have been rather spread out. I think people's understanding of the argument has been distorted by the length of time between the points. Overthinking is the enemy here.
But really, why are people coming away from MHA with the message "Heroes shouldn't sacrifice themselves"? The message is coming from somewhere. The problem is it's probably coming from a conflation of concepts. What is self-sacrifice? That's the question that gets at the root of the problem here.
In the west, "sacrifice" has negative connotations. "Something is lost." "Someone suffers for the sake of a goal." "Someone gives up something." The focus is entirely on the pain experienced by the one sacrificing.
But the point MHA is trying to make is that there's a difference between "suffering loss" and the sacrifices a true hero makes. Izuku isn't a remarkable hero because he's willing to destroy himself at the drop of a hat. The focus is not on his drastic behavior but on the recipients of his drastic behavior. The point is, sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice is meaningless, but sacrifice for the sake of others, well, now we're getting somewhere.
It's the "for the sake of others" part that matters here. Izuku is a hero because he cares for others, because he wants to save others, and what he's willing to sacrifice to accomplish that is merely the measure of his conviction, of his heart.
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The quality of self-sacrifice is a core trait measured just to gain enrollment at UA, the most prestigious hero school in the country. Self-sacrifice is fundamental to being a hero. Do you really think the point of the MHA story is to demonstrate how self-sacrifice is a bad thing, that heroes shouldn't sacrifice themselves? Do you think the rest of Class 1-A wouldn't be willing to sacrifice themselves should the need arise so long as it's in order to save someone?
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The difference between Izuku and the rest of the world, at least at the beginning, is that he is sensitive to calls for help. He is able to perceive those in trouble that others cannot perceive. Others get confused by the context or are not in a constant state of listening for cries for help. Others cannot always tell when is the right time to act or if acting is the correct choice. Izuku never wavers in the face of such questions. He always acts, because he cannot help but act. It is who he is. It's his nature to be this way. And this is the spirit that slowly influences his classmates and the rest of society, this is the spirit Katsuki fears and later comes to emulate, this is the ideal Izuku admires in his hero All Might for which he always strives.
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Heroes want to save, but some of them just don't know how--and Izuku teaches them how. Izuku teaches them that, for true heroes, to save others is more important than anything else they could ever want. It is more important than their self-perceived weaknesses, than their egos, than their desires for vengeance, than their small-time dreams, no matter how noble or justified or important any of those things might be. To be called a hero, one must be prepared to risk it all.
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These are the traits Hero Killer Stain wishes to promote in society. These are the qualities he exonerates from assassination. A person who lives for the sake of "service to others" is the sort of person who has more right than anyone to "cling desperately to life." Society needs such people, and for that very reason such people need to stay alive. This is the collectivist ideal. If everyone is concerned for the well-being of others, then everyone is looking out for everyone else. If you're ready to save others and risk yourself to do so, others will risk themselves to make sure you make it out alive too, and thus everyone is protected. If you do end up perishing due to self-sacrifice, it is a tragedy, not self-determination, but then your actions still protected the whole, and the whole will continue to protect everyone in it to the best of their abilities because your self-sacrifice was appreciated and the spirit of your goodness carries on in others.
But that's a whole lot of waxing poetic about self-sacrifice. I did acknowledge that people are picking up a critical message. Where then is the criticism?
It comes from Shouta Aizawa.
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Aizawa is the major proponent of rationality in this case. Self-sacrifice = good is not the end of the philosophy. It is as you say, something must balance it out.
People often think Aizawa's philosophy boils down to "I don't want heroes to be self-sacrificial," but that's not actually what he's saying. Aizawa's philosophy is to make the distinction between self-sacrifice and self-destruction.
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"Being self-sacrificing isn't the same...as being suicidal. Many kids confuse the two. So I'll give them what they want. A 'death,' so to speak."
The hallmark of heroic self-sacrifice is that it's done for the sake of others. Self-destruction is different; it is for the sake of the self. Some people would take the chance to mask their self-destruction as self-sacrifice by looking for a way to die while saving others. That's not the point of heroic self-sacrifice. Self-sacrifice is a last resort. You save a person in trouble because you care about preserving their well-being no matter the cost, but some sacrifices are not in balance. Say someone is trapped in a room and you want to get them out, and you have a battering ram and a bomb. Should you strap a bomb to your body and explode open that door to let the person out? Wouldn't that be a heroic sacrifice to save someone? No! It's certainly a sacrifice, but it's not a heroic one. You should act to preserve ALL well-being, including your own. Use the damn battering ram.
Consider the circumstances at play in the quirk assessment test. Izuku was ready to sacrifice his entire arm, his physical constitution, for the sake of demonstrating his power. What does Izuku incapacitating himself achieve were Aizawa to let him do so? It would merely be to prove his strength to someone. No one is at risk here. No one needs saving. Izuku has no person to receive the good will of his self-sacrifice.
"Whatever you were planning...it would have inconvenienced those around you."
"You're totally useless after saving just a single person."
Self-sacrifice is still a sacrifice, which means it has costs and consequences. Who loses because of self-sacrifice? Many people. The person who sacrifices themself loses their life or well-being, which, if others asking for help are worth saving because you believe all people are equal, then you are also worth saving and in just as much need of help. Additionally, your loved ones are harmed because they care about you. And the rest of society suffers because it was better for having you in it; you can no longer save anyone else. To save the most people possible, a hero should strive to survive. A hero should strive to win.
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Taken all together, you get the philosophy that allows Katsuki's team to triumph during the Joint Training Arc, which was the entire point of this match. Note how all the above logic is summed up quite succinctly by the gremlin himself.
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Katsuki is dedicated to winning the match and leads the charge, but that puts him at risk of being targeted. However, he's willing to be in that vulnerable state because he trusts others to save him. That's what empowers him to put himself on the line. His goal is a complete victory, which means that self-sacrifice is considered a loss. There are costs and consequences, and heroes should do their best to mitigate them. Katsuki is doing everything in his power to reduce the necessity of self-sacrifice, but not because he thinks self-sacrifice is bad. He thinks needless self-sacrifice is bad, and so he strives to eliminate the need for it.
But that means he does acknowledge that there are times self-sacrifice is necessary. He's grown up afraid of Izuku's heart because Izuku demonstrates how easily self-sacrifice comes to him, and that puts Katsuki on the spot. Katsuki doesn't know if he is capable of self-sacrifice. Because he's so competent and strong, he's never noticed a need for sacrifice in his life. He's never had to demonstrate self-sacrifice, and if that's such a fundamental part of being a hero, Katsuki doesn't know if he really is a hero at heart.
But as I mentioned above, the reason he never had a chance to display self-sacrifice as a trait is because he lacked the ability to tell when people need saving. He looks around and sees a bunch of people who are wasting their potential. He thinks some people who seem to ask for help are much more capable than they behave.
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Note how Katsuki failed his hero license exam. If Katsuki had stuck around the triage center and fought Gang Orca when he showed up, Katsuki likely would have passed. But Katsuki decided to forego battle to run around and save people. And hilariously enough, the bystanders who dock Katsuki points point out that Katsuki correctly identified them as low-priority targets to save. He's pretty good at figuring out who DOESN'T need saving. They end up docking him points because of his inappropriate tone, which is possibly the funniest way they could have said "Well you're technically right but also holy crap you're bad at this."
And that's the point. Katsuki knows saving people is important, and he perceives Izuku is the absolute best at it. Katsuki is constantly looking for a way to compete with Izuku in this realm because he has to. Katsuki wants to be the best, and to do so he has to improve in this area. Izuku pisses him off because he is extremely adept at perceiving calls for help from those who truly need it, and Katsuki notices every time Izuku is faster on the uptake. It happens at the sports festival with Shouto, which is why Katsuki considers the sports festival a loss.
Katsuki does get better at this, and that's what allows him to eventually get his hero license. Think of his behavior during the school cultural festival, where he sees his classmates trying to appease their peers out of guilt. That's people pleasing. That's ego. Katsuki won't have any of it. From his perspective, if Class 1-A wants to make sure everyone has a good time, then everyone means everyone. Class 1-A has to enjoy the festival too, and the best way to do that is to throw a badass concert. By enjoying themselves and being proud of their well-earned accomplishments, by thriving, Class 1-A demonstrates to their peers how to best win against all those tragedies that tried to bring them down. Self-deprecation for the sake of appeasing others' ill will when that ill will is unjustified is just self-gratification. It's just a way to stop feeling guilty, but the only purpose that serves is to debase yourself. Class 1-A didn't do anything wrong to the other classes, so Class 1-A does not need to atone to them. Self-sacrifice in this case brings no benefit to anyone. Instead, the classes should all be thriving together.
All of these lessons converge in the Dark Deku arc. Others express worry for Izuku's behavior because they see him as engaging in self-destruction. They want him to rest, but Izuku perceives there are people in need of help, so he can't help but save them. And not everyone condemns Izuku's behavior.
Kudou encourages it.
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The problem at play in this arc is the question of power. Izuku has power, which means he is capable of saving people. And many people are in need of saving. How many people can one finite Izuku save? That is the question he is set to answer. He is facing the same question as All Might, but All Might's example was to save people while he was losing One For All. All Might had a finite amount of power that he was going to lose in time, so he decided to spend that dwindling power on saving as many people as he could. That would be the more virtuous use of his finite power.
But All Might's flaw was in rejecting the help of others when others were capable of helping him. Izuku falls into the same trap. He thinks he has to save people alone because he's the only one capable of it.
This is Kudou's spoken caveat. "Inaction is not an option," so yes Izuku needs to be acting in this moment. "That said...if there's anything that could bolster Izuku Midoriya now, it would be..."
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The answer is not merely "friends." We are given the answer that Izuku needs friends at first, but this is a special type of friend. Izuku needs friends who "share his resolve," who "can match his pace...and keep running alongside him." Izuku needs comrades (nakama)! He needs friends who want to save just as much as he does. He needs friends who are just as capable as he is. That's why Class 1-A has to first demonstrate their capabilities to Izuku so that he can be convinced.
Katsuki doesn't criticize Izuku's ideals either. In fact, he openly praises them.
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All Katsuki is saying here is "You're doing the right thing. Saving people, even at cost to yourself, is the right thing. We want to help. We can help. Don't reject us.
"Don't pay a price when you don't have to."
tl;dr
In a collectivist society, the ideal is that everyone looks out for each other, thus is everyone protected.
Self-sacrifice has costs to the self, to one's loved ones, and to society. The price paid must be worth the good achieved.
The virtue in self-sacrifice is that it is done when necessary for the sake of others. Anything less is self-destruction, which is harmful to society.
Heroes have a duty both to be prepared to self-sacrifice and to mitigate the need for self-sacrifice.
Rejecting the help of others who are capable of helping is to reject the collectivist ideal.
Izuku's self-sacrifice is virtuous BECAUSE IT IS FOR OTHERS' SAKES. Izuku's self-destruction and rejection of help from others are what the story criticizes.
Izuku Midoriya's nature represents the ideal of self-sacrifice because of his innate desire to save others, and Katsuki Bakugou recognizes that trait as core to being a hero and thus admires Izuku for it--but he's also afraid he doesn't have that trait for a large chunk of the story. Izuku's journey to accepting the help of others, Katsuki's journey to discovering his self-sacrificing spirit, and their mutual admiration of each other all provide the perspective for the audience to understand this ideal: heroes are those who live in service of others.
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sparkles-and-trash · 1 year
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mha leak spoilers!!! (not really but kinda)
so, dabihawks friends… how we doing?
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knightsgaydiant · 1 year
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I see Miles’s pants are operating on hulk rules
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orcelito · 1 year
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another thing! (preemptive warning for a kinda gory panel)
as part of the explosion of july, we see right before it goes off,
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he's aiming it right at knives' gut. knives miscalculated for REAL here, and you can see it in his genuine surprise that vash was pointing this right at him. he was pushing vash to blow up, but he didnt expect that explosion to be pointed at HIM
and in legato's discovery of knives' body post-july, we see:
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indeed, he got a hole blown in his gut. intestines falling out, in HORRIBLE shape, but somehow still alive. in contrast, every single other person in that city has completely disappeared, utterly vaporized by the explosion.
it's a testament to the brothers' resilience, vash not visibly harmed at ALL (since it wasnt aimed right at him anyways), & knives very hurt but still somehow still alive despite his guts literally hanging out. the fact that they werent vaporized too is a marvel in and of itself though. did he shield himself with his own feathers? they WERE poking out too in the buildup to the explosion. it'd explain how he wasn't just completely bisected, and instead just got the top layer of his stomach taken off. again, still terribly life-threatening, but not a Mortal blow.
it really is so very hard to kill these brothers.
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thyandrawrites · 2 years
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I think it chapter 206 pony made fun of shouji and said something like I don’t like looking at you and call him an octopus and he responded with he used to people being scared of him and mineta and another classmate call him a sexy octopus he didn’t respond if there more I don’t remember and as for others the civilian lady who told Deku they wouldn’t let her in for shelter but I think hori was going back and forth with this storyline and decided during vh arc to bring it back
Is this in response to my wish that Hori had shown us more anti-heteromorphic discrimination from the pov of heroes? If so, yeah, I kept that in mind. It's why I mentioned that Shouji wears a mask for other people's comfort. He doesn't do it because he likes wearing one, but because he doesn't want people to find him scary. Like I was arguing, I think that's a case of quirked society asking heteromorphs to fit in rather than working towards integrating them properly and giving them rights.
But anyway, if I'm honest I don't find Shouji a particularly groundbreaking character. What he adds to the story is just worldbuilding information, but nothing more. Like, we already knew from other characters that heteromorphs are seen as subhuman, and that mutations that take after animals get called slurs and/or seen as scary. Again, think of Shouto and Dabi using the words "lizard" "chicken skewers" "mutt". Think of Gang Orca being perceived as a villain because of his appearance.
I wrote that post because I was trying to point out something different. What we're missing are not more cases where that prejudice resulted in name calling. What we're missing is a non-villain character reflecting on all the roadblocks they had to face to be on the same starting line as non-mutants, and giving us a first-hand pov of how this prejudice still affects them as they move forward. Past the slurs and the stereotyping them as villains. Aside from Spinner, there is no major character (with a personal arc!) who openly criticizes hero society for the way it treats them. When this discrimination affects heroes, what we see is always much milder. Spinner was chased out of town with rocks. How did Shouji, Kouda, Gang Orca and all the others get into a hero school? Why did they decide to be heroes? How do they feel about being part of a system who considers them subhumans? Did they have to sacrifice something (even some dignity) to get what they wanted? If so, was it worth it? Did being there, under the spotlights, change anything for fellow heteromorphs, or are they still expected to work twice as hard to be on the same starting line as everyone else? How do they feel about needing to "tone down" their mutations to fit in?
Like, Shouji works fine as just a background character. But he's not fleshed out, so I am very skeptical of the major role he's being given currently because he simply lacks the depth to make it impactful. We don't know his motivations, his goals; we don't even know his backstory. And sure, we'll probably get one now that he's apparently the focus of a subplot, but it'll still fall flat because it lacks the set up. When you compare the screentime and depth in Shouji and Spinner's respective cases, it's clear that Spinner is much more fleshed out. That's where our sympathy falls by default. Putting Spinner against a hero kid who barely says 10 lines in all the story and expecting it to have emotional depth is... A debatable choice. It's just a disservice to Spinner and to the whole heteromorph plotline imho. It feels like even now that it's become a major theme in the final battle, Horikoshi still couldn't cook up something to give Spinner a real challenge, and instead sent two (I'm adding Kouda there too) of the blandest of his side characters to face one of the villains he already gives little focus to.
Idk, I'm probably salty here but imho that just makes it unsatisfying and lame when Spinner will eventually lose bc of plot reasons. The least Horikoshi could've done was facing him with a hero who had some internal narration and the bare bones of a character arc.
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ozlices · 9 months
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still not done playing ch 3 but the amount of changes there apparently is between the shin and kanna route is like. actually fucking wild. holy shit.
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