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erigold13261 · 1 year
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As much as I like ships involving Mama… do you think she’s capable of moving on to being with people other than Papa? After all, she is still wearing black and a wedding ring after approx 3-4 years after his death…
Yes, I do. Realistically though it would not be anytime soon. I see her as truly "moving on" only when Yinu is either a teen or adult (or if Yinu stop playing music professionally because I think being in that environment that is so heavily connected to Papa is not allowing Mama to properly grieve and "move on," which is different for Yinu as that environment has helped her to grieve).
Also like, the term "moving on" is something I have a problem with (personally, not because of you), because so many people seem to think moving on means forgetting the person you loved. At least the people who I surround myself with.
I can see Mama being able to move on in the sense that she will always love Papa as her first and true love, but will be able to love someone (hopefully) just as much as she did Papa.
Idk, it just feels like so many people have this conception that they can only love one way and that you can't love someone more without like invalidating that old love. It's why I see her and Neon as never truly getting together because both of them are afraid that if they love someone new, then that love they had for their old SOs was "fake," a "waste of time," or "not true love" when it did feel like true love at the time.
This I play up a lot in Neon J as more he can't even get over Martha since he still loves her, is afraid to love again, and doesn't think he can love someone else like he did her.
For Mama, she is less afraid of loving again, with her totally being okay with one day finding someone new, but is more afraid she might love someone more and end up forgetting about the love she had with Papa. She doesn't want to muddle the memories she has and so not dating and continuing to grieve is what are keeping those memories alive but they are also making those happy memories bitter and painful.
It also doesn't help that she does not want Yinu to forget her father, so dating someone when Yinu is young feels wrong to her. Mama feels like the second she starts seeing someone new, Yinu will either push the memories of Papa away or get mad at Mama for "trying to erase Papa."
Though Yinu would not act like this. She wants Mama to be happy and if that means getting someone new to love, then Yinu would be okay with that. She knows no one will ever replace Papa and wants Mama to realize that as well.
This is why I really like Mama and Neon together (either as friends or as lovers, doesn't matter to me), because both of them help each other realize their worth and that love is not a single monolith that has to be done one way. You can love more than one person without invalidating the love of another. The two help each other accept that the loves they had are never coming back, and that it's okay to still hold those loves close but to go out and try to find new love.
The only reason I can see Mama and Neon getting together before Yinu turns into a teen is mainly because of how adamant Neon is that he is not a replacement for Papa. Other people Mama might potentially date come with the risk of those people feeling inferior to her love for Papa, or that they think they can be better than Papa (both as a father or as a lover).
Neon on the other hand feels like he will never be good enough and is okay with that, as he doesn't think anyone could be better than Martha (which... honestly so many people can be better than her). So he wants to make it clear that he is not some replacement or trying to force away memories that Yinu and Mama might have. He is very careful around past loves and never wants to step on any toes, but still wants to make everyone as happy as he can.
So yeah. I can see Mama moving on when Yinu gets older, if Mama gets out of the environment she is in, or if she finds someone willing to let her keep her love for Papa without feeling inferior or trying to erase that past love.
Also, the fact she still wears her wedding ring was something I forget is a grieving mechanism and a reminder of her love for Papa. I just never saw it as that for some stupid reason. To me it was more of her always wearing the ring and just deciding to not take it off for comfort and familiarity, but now that I think of the REASON behind that comfort and familiarity, of course it would have to do with grieving and keeping Papa's memory alive (also I personally have it as Papa dying 5 years before the events of the game take place. So it has been quite a while since his death. I mainly think Mama not trying to find love is also her having to work a lot and raise Yinu basically alone).
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Do people know there's a difference between:
an aro spec character being "cured" of their aromanticism by their "one true love" by the end of the narrative
And:
An aro spec character who finds one of the few people they happen to click with in an amorous (but not necessarily romantic) way by the end of the narrative
Does anyone understand that aromanticism is a SPECTRUM and that someone writing an aro character finding someone they want to be in a relationship with might be doing so for reasons other than 'curing' them?
And the same thing for ace spec characters! And, you know, actual people.
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coffinmotif · 7 months
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there's this character dynamic i like to call "older tgirl you met at the start of your journey who taught you how to stand on your own feet and also blew your back out so hard it cracked your egg". that's yoo joonghyuk and breaking the sky sword saint to me
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horsemage · 20 days
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I think we should bring back basic etiquette lessons such as shutting the fuck up when you’re watching a movie in a group that is not exclusively your friend group 🙂
#welcome to another Mick Airs Out Their Grievances and by god is it a VERY long one#prob best if u don't expand the tags#am I being maybe a bit meaner about this than I would be for any other movie? maybe but pac rim is one of my favorite movies of all time#so I think I get a pass on this one.#one of the groups on campus is hosting movie nights & I went to this one bc I've only ever watched pac rim on my laptop and wanted to watch#it on a larger screen. yay yippee I love this movie!#there r maybe 10-ish of us in this room and a three person friend group is sitting on the couch one of whom has seen the movie and two who#have not. okay so far so normal.#and then the movie starts and they won't! stop! fucking! commentating! the whole fucking movie!!! I don't have a problem with doing that#when I'm in just my friend group because I know that I can tell my friend to stop talking or pause the movie or whatnot but not when I'm in#a large group w people I'm not good friends with ffs#and the comments aren't even funny or anything they're all oh this is JUST like in iron widow!! oh they're SO gay and autistic!!! and#they're talking so loud about this that it completely drowns out the movie audio which has already been turned up a few times#like. be considerate!! some of us want to yknow actually listen to what's going on and not whatever bullshit you're saying#I nearly walked out three or four times before I actually wound up doing so#I may have been a bit of a bitch at the end but I don't care. I got up to leave because this was not an enjoyable environment and one of#them offered to turn the movie down if it was too loud. this caught me a bit off guard since I expected them to still be so wrapped up in#their convo and. well. I may have said 'it's not the movie that's too loud' before closing the door#this also reminds me a lot about my issues with online shipping culture and it bleeding through into how we interact with media irl#this is probably heavily influenced by my aromanticism but I'm so sick of people constantly reading romantic relationships into everything#AND placing more importance on those relationships than any other form. I don't mind romance in media. I think if done right it has great#emotional impact on a story but when a movie is running and when other people who may not want to hear it are in the room watching it too#is not the time to be loudly saying 'he's autistic!' 'they're in love!' 'she has a crush on him!'#I have my own interpretations of the movie some of which agree with what they said and some of which don't but that's beside the point of#knowing how to coexist politely in public#anyway. I think they were awful and annoying and they ruined my night out.#I think I'm just so incredibly mad about this because I love the movie and I was looking forward to watching it in a group of people who#found it cool as well while still having some modicum of politeness#I almost wish I had been meaner but that's the extreme annoyance talking I think#hater hour over love u guys bye
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bonyassfish · 2 years
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(me bursting into grrm’s house in the middle of the night): I will stop holding this knife to your neck if you promise brienne of tarth will receive the kind of gentle romantic love she yearns for and deserves
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"COsTumE ChoICEs MaTtEr" proceeds to dress eddie for a date in a nearly identical outfit to buck from the poker date
being a little loud there are you bud????
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bumblingbabooshka · 1 year
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[Coping with Loneliness and Cracks in Control]
Ah, it’s happening again. This irritating habit of leaving the body alone But there’s no one here either. It’s youyouyou no matter how much you call. (so cavernous it echoes) so stop doing it Your mind has been cracked open over and over again with every repair the damage worsens how long? “Tuvok, how do you do it?” desperately. The Vulcan mind is a fascinating thing. Mysterious. Resilient. Much like the Vulcan people - it can survive much worse than this. “Give me all you’ve got!” because I’m empty empty empty desperately. Meditate. Sort it out. Hm? Isn’t this too much for less than half a person? I can’t live like this. What other choice do you have? [A Mind Meld - Desperately]
#Tuvok#my writing#bea art tag#-guy who's about to say some wild bullshit-.........so hear me out#Vulcans are born with bonds. They're bonded with their parents who in turn have their own bonds and it reaches back as long as Vulcans have#existed - they're a culture of bonds and telepathy who derive affection and comfort and peace THROUGH this bonds#(evidenced by the 'flame' of pon farr being 'put out' through bonding with another Vulcan)#I'm sure a great amount of control and satisfaction is derived through them. Also as I've stated before Tuvok & T'Pel consider themselves as#part of one another in a more extreme way than human romantic partners (two bodies one mind)#so when Tuvok is thrown into the delta quadrant he loses all of these bonds ('They are a part of me and I feel incomplete without them') <-#to me 'incomplete' here isn't an emotion like a human would experience it but like...literally if someone took half your brain and shot four#holes in what was left of it. If you've operated 60 something years thinking in tandem with another person then losing them would be losing#a great deal of yourself. And it's not like Tuvok has other bonds to fall on like he might on Vulcan if this occured - he's got NO ONE#he has humans and other aliens surrounding him but they aren't Vulcan and he doesn't bond with any of them telepathically but you know what#he does do?? like a notable amount?? mind melds#and also have his brain invaded by forces he didn't consent to#this combination makes me think about Tuvok who is so desperately lonely and also afraid - the first Vulcan without bonds - making it all up#as he goes along bc he has to (everyone has to) and bc he has no one he can confide in that would understand or really be able to help him#in tandem afraid of his mind being out of his control and wanting himself to feel whole again even if only momentarily - even he's#attatching himself to someone who will only worsen his mental strain (bc he has no excuse to mind meld with someone who's healthy - though#it would be beneficial to him as we see that's a treatment to trauma canonically)#Tuvok (suffering from tremendous alien forms of trauma that he keeps exposing himself to voluntarily in a move that is all at once#self-soothing and self harm): I do not require assistance. I am Vulcan.#If the writer's aren't going to explore Tuvok's inner world then listen. LISTEN. /I AM!!!!!!/#I'M GONNA DO IT EVEN IF IT MAKES ME LOOK STUPID#I hope any of this made sense#st voyager#st voyager art#Tuvok art#comix
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widowshill · 27 days
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personal.
#// tbd#// personal#// vent#➤ ooc. ┊ she’s nauseous,she’s hysterical,and exhausted.#man it has been. sort of a rough day. i stumbled on some pictures accidentally and i. really miss the person i was then.#i miss the friendship i had with that person. i miss the excitement i had for the future; the fun i had with mundane things.#the sense of trust and belonging with them. the way i could communicate with them about anything.#in hindsight was it necessarily for the best that I always wanted their approval and to impress them? well. no.#but i was always pushing to be better. dress better. be funnier. be successful. driven. a better artist; a better writer; a better friend.#partly i think university burnt me out; or just. The State of Things. but I've been thinking so much about apathy.#how i struggle now to plan out anything even two weeks in advance; forget to make reservations til the last minute; miss out -#on buying tickets because i forgot. but the trip I had with them I was excited about and planning for *years*#i'm trying to be better at answering messages and keeping up with people it's just so. i don't know. i've been feeling very unmoored. void.#i've never been *great* at interpersonal relationships but that ... did not help.#i wish i would have handled things differently. i feel like these things aren't supposed to affect you 5 years later#and after you've gone through undergrad but it still ... does.#what they did hurt but they only acted that way because i didn't. get it. i didn't understand why i felt the way i did#or what it was i was feeling. and even when i did i didn't handle it well. so. natural consequence#and now i just have a weird reaction to *any* friends having a romantic life which is not. can't be like that. can't be doing that.#that's not realistic or sustainable for friendships.#and now that i don't have grades / faculty attention/approval to strive for and sustain me it's. well. it's something.#whatever. i'm sure my personal life being irreversibly tanked by this will all work out in the end.#[crunchy black and white mr. incredible dot jpeg]
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teamhawkeye · 1 year
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“boohoo, why isn’t LauraxMax more popular than LauraxTravis, Laura and Max are canon after all-”
Max is fucking boring. He exists to be bitten to kickstart the game’s events and propel Laura’s story forward, and then remains unhelpful and moping for the majority of the rest of his screentime, which is only about 20 minutes in total of a 10+ hour game.
you get to play as him for literally a minute and a half, where he can be instantly killed off or just stands on a dock and waits...and that’s the end of his story. you can only get an ending where he and Laura reunite that involves Ryan dying for literally no reason and Laura murdering Travis, when he hasn’t shown her any aggression and was trying to deescalate everything happening in chapter 9. and that also leaves the curse still intact and potentially several counselors infected and doomed with no knowledge how to cure themselves and no one left to actively try and hunt Silas to free them all. such a great, happy ending... 
also, if you want content for a ship, nothing is stopping you from making your own or commissioning someone else to do it for you. that sounds like a You problem if you’re not finding enough content for the “canon couple” that you think should be more recognized and is so much more interesting in your eyes...
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an-absolute-nightmare · 10 months
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i will not be an internet asshole i will not send a random stranger hate for being casually aphobic i will not type five hundred fuck yous in their replies just because they're prey to amatonormativity like the rest of us i will not i will not i will n—
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starlit-mansion · 4 months
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corv reminded me that i literally wrote an anti-valentines day rant into book of red murder lmao. that sure was a thing i did.
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angeltism · 7 months
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out of the shower , feeling slightly less shit about myself (and way less like saying uncalled for immature mean things) however still dealing with the realization that I am possibly the most replaceable person in the world
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mayasaura · 2 years
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Sorry if it's weird to ask this about a post you made so long ago, but could you elaborate on why you put orange instead of green between Camilla and Palamedes? Or instead of both orange and green? Thank you.
Green was a sort of catch-all for “this relationship matters deeply to either the plot or the characters, but there is no other color on the list that applies or I don’t have enough information to make the call”. Camilla and Palamedes have had one career, one set of aspirations, and one best friend shared in common between them since they were children, and Palamedes literally died the first time Camilla lost track of him for twenty minutes. They’re the definition of codependent, so orange it was. Bonded pair, do not separate.
I only used multiple colors if the two aspects of the relationship were in conflict (e.g. friendship and jealousy between Gideon and the Sixth), or if I thought the relationship was particularly funny.
And no worries, it’s not weird at all. I love that people are still looking at and thinking about something I made!
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tvrningout · 6 months
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it's making me a lil sad to listen to my s.potify wrapped bc a good chunk of the songs are from playlists i made for ships, and i don't write any of those ships anymore. and dude, the energy i had for toiling over a playlist until i got it just right!! i remember spending so much time and going over and over the playlist until it flowed just the way i wanted it to. and i think it's a mixture of missing the connections i had and missing the energy i had bc i know i haven't been at my best this year. i feel like i don't do a good job of forming personal connections, not that i was ever the best asdf but i've noticed how i've changed. i have a lot of feelings and a lot of ideas, but the energy or motivation is really hard to find sometimes. remaking has helped tremendously, but listening to this playlist is like looking my problems directly in the eye and can i just say yikes
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sodafrog13 · 1 year
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i think a lot abt biker and jacket's relationship for someone who does not like them together romantically
#and talk abt them a lot for that matter fgdfgfgd#idk!! i just think that there's like. possibilities there y'kno#like there's a reason why i made a playlist for them. bc if you know me then you know me making ship playlists and like#actually sharing them. is a little unusual. bc i have others that aren't hlm related#but this is the first time i've felt strongly abt them (the playlists) enough to actually share#which makes sense for beardjacket and jacketgf since i post abt them a lot#but for biker&jacket (esp consdiering that it's a ship playlist /meant/ to not be romantic) it's like. god idk how to say it properly#like there's tragedy there. if u kno what i mean. just inherently#like there's a reason that of all my jacketshipping playlists the biker&jacket one has the most amount of songs w no words (5/10 of them)#bc to me their relationship isn't built on affection/any sort of real attraction. it's built on understanding.#on needing this person in your life even if it isn't good for either of you because not having them there would just make things even worse#bc the beardjacket playlist also has a genrous amount of songs w no words (4/10) but i have specific reasons for having them there#the main general ones being /comfort/. and longing. bc that's what those songs meant to me personally#w the biker&jacket one i have straight breakcore songs on there (bc to me biker/jacket means breakcore) and a 25 minute ambient/vpw track#as well as release by M|O|O|N and it's ok you're ok by bonjr bc to me all of those songs are like#like regardless of how i personally feel about them they're not meant to be. satisfying? ig?? like they're meant to be unsettling in a way#i'm essentially trying to encapsulate how games like hlm and firewatch make me feel#like. like this is how it's supposed to be. even if it's not what anyone wanted#anyways. i need to keep studying.#the trash speaks
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whenever people talk about having love lives or partners i just sit there like 😐👍
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