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erigold13261 · 1 year

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As much as I like ships involving Mama… do you think she’s capable of moving on to being with people other than Papa? After all, she is still wearing black and a wedding ring after approx 3-4 years after his death…

Yes, I do. Realistically though it would not be anytime soon. I see her as truly "moving on" only when Yinu is either a teen or adult (or if Yinu stop playing music professionally because I think being in that environment that is so heavily connected to Papa is not allowing Mama to properly grieve and "move on," which is different for Yinu as that environment has helped her to grieve).

Also like, the term "moving on" is something I have a problem with (personally, not because of you), because so many people seem to think moving on means forgetting the person you loved. At least the people who I surround myself with.

I can see Mama being able to move on in the sense that she will always love Papa as her first and true love, but will be able to love someone (hopefully) just as much as she did Papa.

Idk, it just feels like so many people have this conception that they can only love one way and that you can't love someone more without like invalidating that old love. It's why I see her and Neon as never truly getting together because both of them are afraid that if they love someone new, then that love they had for their old SOs was "fake," a "waste of time," or "not true love" when it did feel like true love at the time.

This I play up a lot in Neon J as more he can't even get over Martha since he still loves her, is afraid to love again, and doesn't think he can love someone else like he did her.

For Mama, she is less afraid of loving again, with her totally being okay with one day finding someone new, but is more afraid she might love someone more and end up forgetting about the love she had with Papa. She doesn't want to muddle the memories she has and so not dating and continuing to grieve is what are keeping those memories alive but they are also making those happy memories bitter and painful.

It also doesn't help that she does not want Yinu to forget her father, so dating someone when Yinu is young feels wrong to her. Mama feels like the second she starts seeing someone new, Yinu will either push the memories of Papa away or get mad at Mama for "trying to erase Papa."

Though Yinu would not act like this. She wants Mama to be happy and if that means getting someone new to love, then Yinu would be okay with that. She knows no one will ever replace Papa and wants Mama to realize that as well.

This is why I really like Mama and Neon together (either as friends or as lovers, doesn't matter to me), because both of them help each other realize their worth and that love is not a single monolith that has to be done one way. You can love more than one person without invalidating the love of another. The two help each other accept that the loves they had are never coming back, and that it's okay to still hold those loves close but to go out and try to find new love.

The only reason I can see Mama and Neon getting together before Yinu turns into a teen is mainly because of how adamant Neon is that he is not a replacement for Papa. Other people Mama might potentially date come with the risk of those people feeling inferior to her love for Papa, or that they think they can be better than Papa (both as a father or as a lover).

Neon on the other hand feels like he will never be good enough and is okay with that, as he doesn't think anyone could be better than Martha (which... honestly so many people can be better than her). So he wants to make it clear that he is not some replacement or trying to force away memories that Yinu and Mama might have. He is very careful around past loves and never wants to step on any toes, but still wants to make everyone as happy as he can.

So yeah. I can see Mama moving on when Yinu gets older, if Mama gets out of the environment she is in, or if she finds someone willing to let her keep her love for Papa without feeling inferior or trying to erase that past love.

Also, the fact she still wears her wedding ring was something I forget is a grieving mechanism and a reminder of her love for Papa. I just never saw it as that for some stupid reason. To me it was more of her always wearing the ring and just deciding to not take it off for comfort and familiarity, but now that I think of the REASON behind that comfort and familiarity, of course it would have to do with grieving and keeping Papa's memory alive (also I personally have it as Papa dying 5 years before the events of the game take place. So it has been quite a while since his death. I mainly think Mama not trying to find love is also her having to work a lot and raise Yinu basically alone).

#nsr #eritalks #noart #asks #i feel like i rambled a lot #hope i actually answered the question #her and n/eon are the ones i see finally allowing each other to move on #even if they aren't being romantic #them just talking and being friends with each other #is something that will help them learn to move on #but not forget their loves #so like #if i want n/eonnova #n/eon and m/ama have to be friends first #to allow that healing journey to start #lol #:3

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erigold13261 · 1 year

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Papa/DJSS should be Golden Record! Reference to the Voyager Spacecraft and Papa/Mama ship Heart of Gold!

Omfg that Papa/DJ one is really flipping good! Love that!

Also I didn't even think of Mama and Papa having a ship name since they are canon, but Heart of Gold really does work for them!

Now all we need is Neon/Papa and Mama/DJSS.

I can see something like Gold Medal or something for Papa/Neon as that keeps the gold theme but also was a reward for military/navy service at some point (though no longer used).

And for Mama/DJSS I don't really have an idea. Something plant and space related. I looked up space flower and apparently a Zinnia was the first flower grown in space! It could be Treespace which just means: a space whose components are trees.

If you or anyone else has better ones, or ones already established then let me know! :3

#nsr #no straight roads #eritalks #noart #asks #only reason i want to have names for all #is because if i do end up making art #i'd like specific ship names to make it easier #while a group ship name would be for all the art i might make #just tagging wise i guess #i should draw some n/eonnova #:3

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