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fanfic-lover-girl · 29 days

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Snape != Harry

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry was sorted into the good house.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry had two best friends who always came back or never left him even when he treated them like dirt and lashed out at them.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry had adults who loved and cared about him. Even Snape who disliked him, was his personal dark guardian angel.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry almost always put Draco in his place. You can count on one hand the number of times Draco overpowered him. Harry nearly killed him once.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry's fights with Draco were usually even 3vs3. Arguably, Draco was the one outnumbered in the book 4 and 5 group assaults on the train.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry came from a wealthy family and his godfather left him even more dough. Harry was set for life.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry got to live his adult life in peace and have a wonderful family with the girl he loved.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Hermione/Ron would have hexed Draco to smithereens if Draco sexually assaulted Harry the way James did Snape. Hermione/Ron would not smile either.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry did not have to witness Hermione or Ginny get with Draco.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry always saw Hogwarts as his home and his happy place. Hogwarts is where Snape had his worst memory.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry and Draco ended the series being civil. Unlike Remus and Sirius who still had hate boners for Snape in their thirties.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Snape had to do a profession he was not suited for nor he liked for his mission. Harry was a renowned Auror respected by the wizarding world.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Harry had a surrogate family who loved him dearly and readily accepted him.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Snape was surrounded by pureblood supremacists in school as a disadvantaged mudblood half-blood.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse -

Snape never truly had a safe place where he felt loved. School and home were hell.

Snape and Harry both had bad childhoods. Snape has no excuse!

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darklinaforever · 4 months

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I will never get over the fact that Lily didn't even ask Severus for his side of the story for Sirius' prank / attempted murder through a uncontrollable Lupin transformed into a wolf. Lily doesn't even worry about Severus, telling him outright that he should be grateful for James' intervention, trusting people more than a version of her friend she's known since she was little. Then having the nerve to say that at least the Marauders don't use black magic... Tell me Lily, magic that isn't black magic is free from any danger ? Hanging someone upside down while smothering them with soap and pulling down their underwear in front of everyone, is that less serious just because it's not black magic ? No, but seriously... I have nothing against the fact that Lily wasn't a fountain of virtue, but in reality, she was just downright an asshole. We're talking about a girl who smiled at Severus' humiliation and took the opportunity when he insulted her, clearly without meaning it, after a horrible moment, to verbally humiliate him and give up their friendship.

#harry potter #hp #harry potter fandom #hp fandom #severus snape #pro severus snape #snape #pro snape #professor snape #anti snaters #anti marauders #anti james potter #anti lily potter #anti jily #severus snape fandom #snape fandom

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souryam · 2 months

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there's like virtually nothing you can say to me or quotes u can throw in my face to convince me that 20 year old Lily was fine and ok with her husband (a.k.a basically the only person she has around) sneaking out at night to. what. annoy muggle police officers? So many people say "oh no she was talking fondly" and I never got it bc I've always read it as her coming across as annoyed. annoyed but trying to tone it down giving that it was a letter to Sirius. Like imagine you're 20 year old with a newly born baby having to live in almost complete isolation in the middle of a war and a half of the parental unit just decides to dip every Wednesday for #boysnight like what

#lily evans #i joke saying she was clawing the walls of that cottage and would be divorced the second voldemort fell to the ground but.#it might not be a joke anymore #anti james potter #anti jily #also i say that as a 19 yo whos turning 20 in june #i cant even conceive the idea of having a child #its scary to think that she was the same age as i am when she was pregnant/had harry bc now i see she was SO YOUNG #also im not even mentioning lily saying he was GRUMPY over not being able to leave at night anymore #my brave girl suffered more than jesus being stuck at home w a annoying white man omfg

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marielaanything · 6 months

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I'm tired of all the defense that James matured is because he married Lily. "He changes because otherwise lily wouldn't have married him blablabla" like stop. Poor Lily they give her all the moral responsibility of that guy. Idk I thought we'd gotten over treating women as rehabilitation for men (in fiction)

Just admit that Jily ship has little development, and it looks like it was taken from wattpad and that's it. But pls stop saying James change and the proof is he got the girl. As if she were an award or acknowledgment of that change. Shes just a girl not a Moral Guide. Women are not moral compasses.

But then I think... How can they defend James' change? Head boy? Stop hex random people just for fun.. Yeah great thing, At least he apologized?

Plus there's that Pottermore prequel of him and Sirius playing pranks on Muggle cops.

Giving the burden to lily is the only way they can defend that James changed. 'Cause Lily wouldn't have married him if he hadn't changed blablabla... But he kept hexing Snape, only not on their dates, What other things could he have done away from Lily's sight? Did Lily know about the prank of him and Sirius on the Muggle cops?... So pls Stop using the poor woman as proof, It's not romantic

#anti james potter #anti lily evans #anti sirius black #anti jily #anti snaters #severus snape #anti marauders #pro snape #pro severus snape #snape fandom #snape community #severus snape fandom #snape defense #snapedefender #snapedom

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cubeapples · 26 days

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my chronically annoyed ass comes across one of those "canon characters react to fanon ships" and one of them was tomarry and in the post, harry's like, "UM EW WTF.. blah blah" and i just got So pissed, like, just because the ship that you like is canon doesn't make you morally superior! obviously canon harry wouldn't want to get fucked by voldemort! but you do realise that talented people who make this pairing plausible with their amazing writing skills and headcanons exist, right?

and another post that was like, "i can't believe millenials get these amazing ships like jily, remadora, hinny, (continues stating het canon pairings) but gen z decided these were trash because they were fxm... and decided drarry, tomarry.. (continues stating gay pairings) etc. were better," and, like,

NO???? you just stated the most bland, boring pairings in the whole series?? it's not our fault your reading comprehension is so abysmal that you think jily, a white heterosexual couple that got married straight out of highschool is more interesting than the hot mess that is drarry/tomarry???

like, i'm not bashing you for liking canon pairings, but it is factually untrue that fanon pairings are automatically less interesting than canon pairings! that's a you problem! your statement reads like you think heterosexual pairings are better than homosexual pairings and i hope you realise that just sounds homophobic.

and also! grindeldore doesn't count! there is no canon evidence for it. jkr did say it was canon, but it... it literally wasn't in the books.

#Not grindeldore bashing i love grindeldore #but saying you also like canon gay pairings and stating the one (and only) gay pairing that is never explored in canon is... a choice #do i have to tag anti canon ships? i don't hate most of them i just got annoyed sorry #THIS EXCLUDES FANON WOLFSTAR AND JEGULUS #tomarry #harrymort #tomarrymort #drarry #anti jily #anti hinny #anti remadora #fandom critical #fandom criticism

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moonlightdancer26 · 6 months

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Can you give your take on this? Because for the life of me I can’t comprehend why lily started dating James right after the worst memory.

Like yeah you’re upset and rightfully fair too, but I feel like she sorta had a liking for James way before the whole thing with sev, like she must’ve thought he’s amusing or something, and I kinda feel like severus might have seen it too, but of course that’s just my thinking.

Correction: She didn’t actually date James right after SWM, she began dating him in 7th year, which was around 2 years after SWM occurred. I don’t think she could be that cruel to date James right after he did something that awful to Snape lol.

I do think she was at least attracted to James during SWM, JKR herself has even confirmed that Lils somewhat fancied James during that period (“You’re a woman, you know what I mean!” no.. no I don’t, JKR 🤨). Her behaviour with James in SWM was concerning as hell, her best friend was legitimately on the ground after just having been choked with soapsuds and her first reaction was to not even glance at him and automatically start bickering with James and talking about his broomstick and his “stupid hair.” 💀 like Lily ily but.. wtf are you doing??

But to be fair to Lils, when she dated James, she genuinely thought he had changed and became a better person. She wouldn’t have dated him if he was still bullying Snape and other people, she would’ve still been attracted to him like she was in SWM, but she wouldn’t have actually gone out with him. However, my issue with that is the fact that she was willing to go out with him AFTER she saw that he SA’d and bullied her (at the time) best friend for YEARS. Lames shippers like to say “oh but she and Snape weren’t friends anymore!! She didn’t ‘owe him anything!’” but like.. at the time, Snape was her best friend of 7 years, and James (knowing that they were friends) had no issue blatantly torturing him and publicly exposing him and then blackmailed Lily (not Snape, but Lily herself) into going out with him. This isn’t an issue about Snape or them not being friends anymore or whatever, it’s the fact that James—at least at one point of his life—had literally zero issue hurting the person Lily cared about and blackmailing her and threatening to hex her. The fact that he was even capable of SA, choking someone with soapsuds, immobilising them, relentlessly bullying them for years, all while knowing that they were someone Lily cared about, should have sent her running for the HILLS. All of that is putting aside that he also had no problem blackmailing Lily and then threatening to hex her when she wanted to defend her friend (“?? wtf girl? How dare you try to help out your friend after I just SA’d them and blackmailed you?? You better not make me hex you too 😠”).

And to make things worse…… what did James even do to change?? Stop bullying people?? Wow so incredible of him! That’s definitely going to reverse the damage of the people he did all that shit to! We should all applaud him for doing the absolute bare minimum!! I should definitely look past him assaulting my now-ex-best-friend-but-who-was-still-someone-I-cared-about-and-respected-at-one-point-in-my-life for 6 whole years, even though he never actually apologised to my now-ex-best-friend… which… would’ve been the proof that he actually changed… Oh who cares? I’m definitely going to date him anyway!

Like, I don’t even care if I wasn’t friends with that person anymore, the fact that YOU had no problem assaulting that person and making their life miserable for YEARS even though you know how much I care about them and then trying to force me into going out with you would be enough for me to not want to go out with you. Simply knowing that you were capable of doing such atrocious things to ANY human being is horrifying. That isn’t even regarding that he showed no hard evidence of changing, merely stopping the bullying does nothing to heal the victim of what you put them through. Like, if I went out and killed a bunch of people, and I suddenly decide to stop killing people, does that mean I’m not guilty of murder?

So, I don’t hate Lily, but I’m definitely not fond of her character. All her scenes show her being pretty unpleasant and she ended up marrying JAMES of all people, so yeah I’m definitely not going to think very highly of her intelligence level…

Anyway, that’s my take. I’m sorry for how long this got, but your ask really triggered something in me that’s been waiting to rant about this 💀

#anti lily evans #sure #anti jily #ughhh it’s been too long since i’ve used these tags #low-key miss it ngl #anti lily potter #tw: mention of sa #anti james potter #anti lily evans potter #severus snape #pro snape #pro severus snape #harry potter #hp #ask #asks

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haileylovesskz · 10 months

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alright, unpopular opinion time, even though no one asked for it. this is defenitely getting me a lot of hate.

jily sucks. i generally do not understand why the hell did lily randomly date james in their 7th year when her and severus split apart. she did it to annoy severus or what, i don't know. she calls james an arrogant toerag, then she randomly goes and date that toerag for what? did she just... like him right after the mudblood incident?

snily made more sense. ok, that's going to get me a lot of hate, but i don't care. to me, snily had more chemistry than jily. severus and lily were childhood friends, and defenitely made more sense and had more chemistry than jily, which is just very random romance.

wolfstar sucks. that's gonna get me even more hate from the wolfstar stans ngl. remus does not find sirius attractive, nor does sirius find remus attractive. sirius was closer to james, and is most likely to develope a crush for james instead. not to mention sirius almost made his best friend, who's in his werewolf form, commit murder.

#snily #anti wolfstar #anti jily #this is going to get me hate #unpopular opinion

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knight-already · 7 months

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Why do we think Severus had no friends other than Lily?

Please tell me... before anyone says he was friends with Mulciber and Avery. That was a recent affair which we learn because lily tells Severus, "I don't like the people you've been hanging out with."

It's recent.

We know, also that the werewolf attack also happens before SWM -- and we learn this particularly in the same conversation.

Did Severus join their friend group out of fear?

I know this has nothing to do with my og point, that being : is any Slytherin a good enough friend, for Severus and is Severus a Slytherin good enough to be friends with any other house?

But wait a second;

Severus has always been an out cast, he's at the bottom of school's social ladder; he's poor, not mainstream attractive, he has poor socialization.

He hardly managed to make friends with Lily only succeeding because he had something she wanted; Knowledge about the wizarding world.

Therefore when he joined Mulciber's group; he would have had to been at the bottom of the friend group, as a : go for/ yes man/ nerd that does their homework ect....in exchange for being in the group and possibly getting protection; IF they bothered too, which I doubt they did seeing as no one in that group came guns a blazing to help him in SWM.

That friend group's power wasn't balanced, and if you've never been in a friend group that wasn't balanced then bless you.

When we talk about balance for the peoples that may not understand:

We have our leader: who may or may not be the glue of the group ei, the one who gathered the friends, or they could also just be the loudest, pushiest or just idk has more swag.

Example: James.

Then we have the second in command, the best friends of the leader, these people are the closest -- best friends, possibly has the ability to kind of influence the leader:

Example: Sirius

Then we have the third, close to the outside eye, best friends with the first two but everyone inside knows they aren't as close, if they were walking and one had to fall behind it would be this friend, if they ever stopped talking for a little, this friend would be first to go.

Example: Remus

And lastly we have the bottom of their social ladder, this friend is a follower, not a lot of say in the group, is lucky to be there and to be considered a friend, usually a yes man, a go for, or someone they exploit for their own personal gain, ie studying or help with assignments, or they could have poor social skills but have a rich background and is easy to manipulate. They are in this group for more protection or power of numbers. They need the group more than the group needs them.

Example: Peter & Severus

Originally I made this post to ponder any friends Severus might have had -- but in a environment that already is hostile to Slytherins, would any Slytherin on the same social standing had been his friend?

I mean he already pissed off the biggest bullies in their year so anyone on a similar social standing might not want to be friends with him out of fear of being more on James and co. raider than they already are, plus this is especially true for maybe another Slytherin -- (Slytherins stick together because of their bad rep. Professor's are no help usually.)

Any other Slytherin would be above him, and most likely not spare him the time of day.

Why would other houses help the weird kid with a huge target on his back?

And if magically he made friends, perfectly find friends who don't let Potter's bullying fly or any house's bulling fly and fight back. If they did manage to be Severus' friends, would Lily approve?

I mean, how do we know someone is a threat?

Don't we either learn through the grape vine or our own eyes?

Well, other houses are side eyeing Slytherin, for being death eaters -- so the muggleborns are sticking close together. Maybe even the houses are protecting their muggleborn friends in whatever way:

"Hey this one's family is a death eater..."

"That one's relative is a supporter..."

"Stay away from them."

I mean we know James and co are on the lights side, so obviously, their actions and pranks are cool because they would never stoop to such a disgusting level.

Does that translate to :

If James and co. Don't approve of this person and are acting out against them ----

They are fight the good fight?

I mean, we do know Mulciber and Avery do become deatheaters.

But -- we don't hear anything about James and co fighting them. We hear Lily being weary of them.

is any Slytherin a good enough friend, for Severus and is Severus a Slytherin good enough to be friends with any other house?

Unimportant to the post:

Looking at Harry 's own friend group with Ron and Hermione. I meant to talk about a balance in friend groups, but I just realized you might think Harry is the leader, which is was at a point since Ron and Hermione didn't get along at the start.

But in truth Ron is the glue, while Harry has the leader status.

That's all, this post is long enough.

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ashboilol · 7 months

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Why do so many people use James maturing to defend him?

Alright, I get that he matured. But just because a bully stops bullying others, does not mean they suddenly become a nice person. Maturing is the minimum a bully can do. It is enough to say they are self-aware, but not enough to call them nice.

Did James apologize to his victims? As a former Marauders stan, I actually used to think that James bullying Snape was justified, and the height of cool. I too became like him for one absolutely cringeworthy year. And like James, I matured. But the thing is, I actually made an effort to mend things with my victims. James never did that, not with Severus, not with Bertram Aubrey, not with ANY of the thousands of kids he hexed for fun. Hell, I know he could not have apologized to all the kids he bullied, but he could have made a speech in apology.

Another thing people use to defend James is that he joined the Order of the Phoenix. That is because he was raised in a cult that worshipped the Light, which also gave a damn about him. He is basically Draco Malfoy but raised in the Light, while Snape is a Harry Potter who was indoctrinated towards the Dark. Both ultimately did the right thing, but like Draco and Harry, Snape was braver than James.

#anti snaters #pro snape #anti marauderfen #i stand by what i said #snape fandom #Snape supremacy #Ima tag this pro marauders and pro james just to upset marauderfen lol #pro james potter #pro marauders #anti snape #jily #anti snily #pro snily #anti jily #I also tagged this in the jily tag just to piss james's fanfemales and fanmales off lmao #I am gonna enjoy this war

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expectopatronum81 · 7 months

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Let me just say it, jkr is brilliant at writing friendships and individual characters but absolute shit at writing romance. None of the main ships were well written, the side ones were much better, though probably because we don't have enough info for them to be ruined

Ships I like :

Bill and Fleur - 💯💯💯 second best ship in the books imo

Molly and Arthur - for some reason the fandom hates this ship. U need to be a solid team to pull off a family of 7 kids ( especially with 6 boys). They also clearly love each other, they even call each other cute nicknames. What's not to like?

Dumbledore and Grindelwald - this is going to bring me hate, but they're my fav couple in the whole series. I don't need a couple to be morally good to appreciate the pairing. Probably the only well written one because they're both fleshed out as characters. Their relationship only makes them more complex and interesting than they already are.

Ships I dislike :

Harry and Ginny - The protagonist's love story was a disappointment. Ginny could have been such an interesting character, instead she was made into the boring 'perfect girl tm' just to become Harry's 'ideal partner'. She's basically made into a female version of james without his flaws being called out. Harry's 'chest monster' was cringe asf, sounded like something tht could hv been picked out of Twilight 😂😂

Ron and Hermione - i like the idea of them, but i don't think it was executed well. That bird attack practically made its appeal non existent for me ( i love Hermione but wtf)

James and Lily - we know a lot about James's character but very little about lily despite the fact that they're both dead before the series starts. James hexing Snape behind Lily's back doesn't set a good precedent, seeing as they get married the very next yr. Lily almost smiling at Snape's underpants being exposed is never addressed when Harry's being critical about james. To me it honestly feels lyk shipping james with a ghost as we know nothing substantial about lily.

PS: I also really appreciate the fact that Sirius was never paired up with anyone. He was far too broken and rebellious and traumatized. He had different priorities and I m so glad his character wasn't forced into one. Single characters for the win, they're such a rarity in fiction

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seleneprince · 1 month

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Scorpius and Rose's dynamic would be like James and Lily's, except Scorpius isn't an arrogant bully and would try his best to get along with Rose's friends because he knows how important they are to her and he really wishes to be part of her life in any way possible.

Oh, and he'll respect her boundaries. If she asks him to leave, he will. If she rejects him, he'll accept it. But until that rejection comes, he'll keep asking her out and trying to win her heart (and gladly welcoming any hexes and curses she throws his way)

Rose wouldn't ever date someone that her friends and family don't aprove of. If he doesn't get along with her loved ones, he's done for.

#he feels jealousy often of course but he deals with it in a much mature way #he acknowledges that rose doesn't belong to him therefore he has no bussiness dictating who she hangs out with #plus he trusts her judgment so he's sure all her friends are nice #and if she didn't want him she would have told him so explicitidly already #he's not going around hexing and pranking people simply for looking at rose #rose's happiness is much more important to him #scorose #scorpius hyperion malfoy #rose granger weasley #the cursed child #harry potter next generation #anti jily #anti james potter #harry potter

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fanfic-lover-girl · 6 days

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Dear canon shippers

Just because you can't appreciate subtext and beautiful narrative themes, it does not make fanon shippers delusional. It just makes you blind. And probably boring too if you think shipping should be solely based on canon. Some of us don't kiss the creator's backside and want better than the terrible canon ships shoved in our faces.

#lol #crackpost #drarry #zutara #pro zutara #zutara supremacy #anti hinny #anti romione #anti jily #anti kataang #anti bryke #anti jkr #most romances in atla and hp suck #anti maiko

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darklinaforever · 4 months

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So...

I saw someone say that Severus was creepy and possessive towards Lily... We're talking about the guy who always let Lily have her own friends and left her alone as soon as she asked him to, just for information.

Oh, and also that apparently he was bullying Petunia thus probably destroying any chance of the bond between her and Lily returning. WTF ?! He accidentally dropped a branch on her when he was, what ? 10 / 11 years old ? I do not know anymore. Also, I remember that it was actually James who completely ruined Petunia and Lily's slim chances of coexisting.

Also, quite simply, Petunia was basically horrible to Lily because she was jealous. Severus has nothing fucking to do with it.

Then obviously say he linked up with bigoted racists. You know... during a period where he was experiencing misery at home, his friendship with Lily deteriorating and him essentially being a reject at school ? Like... It's pretty obvious that the guy is influenced. Are people aware that we can also join this type of dangerous stupidity through manipulation and not just by choice ? No ? All right. Because I feel like people forget that Severus is actually a half blood.

The person went so far as to say that Severus loving Lily, was like a member of the Klu Klux Klan falling in love with a black woman...

Also, to say that apparently he hoped Lily would come back to him by saving her from Voldemort and leaving James and Harry to die, which... is false ? He just wanted to save her because he loves her ? He didn't expect her to fall into his arms ? Where the fuck does this shit come from !?

Oh, and also, the funniest thing, complaining that he betrayed the Death Eaters... because then that would prove that this guy has no loyalty.

Or maybe that just goes to show that he didn't really know what he was doing in this big mess ? Just an idea like that.

And so obviously complaining that he's only faithful to Lily which is apparently very unhealthy.

Also, apparently, nothing makes him gray, his redemption is bogus. Harry naming his son after him is stupid and Lily would probably hate Severus in the afterlife.

And this all came from someone hating James & Lily as a character and romance.

Like... how can you misunderstand a character so much ? The HP Saga has many flaws for me, but the character of Snape is clearly in the top tier and an excellent gray character.

And I don't understand why a lot of people find it disgusting, twisted and sick that he did good things in honor of Lily's memory, still loves her and has the same patronus as her. Like... I really don't understand. Why do people try to blacken and pervert everything ? Oh I know. They are allergic to complexity.

Yes, Snape wasn't the best teacher in the world. Favored his house and let the Slytherin students annoy the Gryffindors but frankly with his past, we can understand why he became the way he is. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to mentally move on from the horrible things that have happened to us. Especially since adolescence has a big impact on our future life.

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lostwriter--xx3 · 2 months

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Havent you heard? James Potter is straight. He is absolutely straight and desperately in love with Lily. He is totally straight. That's why he never had a girlfriend in all through his (what would be) high school and middle school. He spent all his time with his 3 best friends. He made up secret codes with his 3 best friends. He risked his life and trusted his life to his 3 best friends. Male best friends, obviously, because he is straight! In fact, he is so straight and was so in love with Lily that he literally lifted a single finger to change himself for her comfort and happiness. Literally! A whole finger! Well, atleast, that's what Lily thought. In fact, James was so straight he lived with his male best friend in his parents house? Unrelated, but I wonder how much time he spent with Lily, compared with his male best friend. In conclusion. James Potter is straight and was desperately in love with Lily all his life. He was as straight as the S in Sirius and as in love with Lily as the L in Sirius. Good evening.

#prongsfoot #james potter #anti jily #queer coding #still repping my james potter is queer coded agenda lmao deal with it #lily evans #sirius black #marauders

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cubeapples · 27 days

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tell me i did NOT just see a post calling jily "more complex than tomarry," 💀 like wow... what a wild comparison and objectively untrue statement.

#anti jily #harry potter #tomarry #harrymort #tomarrymort

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admjralbenbow · 9 months

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fremione is what jily always wanted to be

#fremione #anti jily #harry potter #rare pair #well kind of #fred x hermione

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