You're the fucker who spends all your time insisting queer rep doesn't count if a bunch of straight men are offended by it. Go fuck yourself, asshole.

No, see, what's actually happened was that I pointed out the fact that there is no queer confirmed main character in RWBY currently, which is true since currently Blake and Yang are only coded as queer and not canon confirmed. I'm not 'insisting that queer rep doesn't count if a bunch of straight men are offended by it,' I'm simply pointing out that Blake and Yang do not yet count as officially canon confirmed queer characters and are coded instead, just like Merlin and Arthur and tons of other stuff that people can feel super attached to and relate to and love, but has not been canonized.

And you see, this is what's really the problem. I asked you to explain why you said the things you did about me and the only response to any of the questions I posed - such as 'why are you giving Miles Luna the benefit of the doubt but not me' and 'how am I as a queer person meant to go about asking for more and better queer rep and criticizing a bigoted company without you thinking I secretly hate women and queer people' - and the only thing you can think to say is to say that I'm doing something that I'm not. I have several times defended Blake and Yang as a valid ship (albeit one I don't personally like,) and have made it clear I don't have a problem with people who ship them, but because I dare to point it out that the RWBY writers have gone ten years without doing more than coding with its main characters and said 'I as a queer person want more and better' you have decided to spend your time this past day sending hate anons to a queer person. Do you... Like, do you get that?

Also just as a side note, it's always funny when I take like maybe an hour out of my whole week to make a post and then answer asks about it for maybe three more hours and people like you start screaming that I spend all my time doing this. Like... No, friend. Surprisingly, the small pocket of my life that you see is not the only thing I do, you just don't like thinking of me as a human person behind a screen. XD

The bees

Sooo yyyyyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhh… the bees…

They're terrible. I'm sorry, but they are. In the show.

Angry, possessive girl with massive abandonment issues loves girl whose instinct is to run away because of trauma from her angry, possessive ex? That's not romantic, that's toxic like nerve gas. These two are the living embodiment of each other's triggers.

That said, in fanon I've seen the bees written very well! They can be a good couple, but they need to actually address and work through the ways they hurt each other, and instead of that, in the show CRWBY goes the exact opposite direction, intensifying the toxic traits and calling it sweet and romantic and lovey.

Ask me about a ship!

Any single scene between Louis and Legoshi from Beastars is far gayer than anything Blake and Yang ever do

It's kind of depressing when you realize out of Team RWBY, Weiss is the only one who get's constant development. Ruby doesn't get any character development until maybe Vol 4, and it was still sporadic at best. Yang and Blake got some good development up until Vol 7 where it feels like if it didn't involve Bumblee, then they didn't get anything (And in some cases you could argue going backwards...). So, this might be my bias talking (Weiss is best girl), but Weiss is the only one on that team to me that got anything in a constant enough rate. Only time I think she didn't develop was in Vol 9, but that was Ruby's time to shine so I'm not really upset with that one.

Yeah, when you think about it, there really wasn't much character development for any of the supposed "main characters" of the series, especially since they're also the titular characters.

Ruby's character development was like a David Cage game of Beyond: Two Souls, showing us Ruby's highs, lows, lows, lows, and LOWS of her character development, all before circling back to a HIGH just in time for her series to get canned. It's a sad sight.

Blake's character was centralized on the White Fang. She was in the White Fang until she left, then she finds out the White Fang are up to something in Vale to the point that it exhausts her, then she helps stop the White Fang in Vale and Mountain Glenn, then Yang was framed, and Blake thinks she's becoming Adam again, then the White Fang attack Beacon and Adam cripples Yang so she runs away to Menagerie to protect Yang and everyone she knows and learns the White Fang are up to something in Menagerie until she breaks everything up in Haven. Things go right for Blake overall until Adam shows back up and she and Yang murder him with no consequences. It is from this point that Blake's character arc with the White Fang ends and her entire character now becomes Yang's girlfriend. I've said it before and I'll say it again; Blake is the worst girl of Team RWBY.

Yang's character trait is that she has no character trait. None that's ever properly established. She's Ruby's sister and/or mother figure, but hardly interacts with her. She likes to party and get into fights, but we don't see her do either. Her mom is a bandit, but we don't know if Raven really loves Yang or not. She lost her arm to Adam, but she didn't really learn anything from that whole experience; again, nothing that we can see. And now Yang's character is Blake's girlfriend. I put Yang higher than Blake only because what story COULD be told isn't just the same story over and over.

So, now that I've gone over some issues of the others, let's talk about Weiss' character arc. Weiss is physically scarred by a trial set by her father in order to get into Beacon, and once she arrives, she's an uptight spoiled brat who expects to be handed the position of Team Leader. After she's humbled by Professor Port, she steps up as Ruby's second-in-command. She's pursued romantically by Jaune, whom she rejects outright multiple times until Neptune shows up, whom she romantically pursues until he starts flirting with other girls in front of her, though Jaune helps Neptune ask her to dance, and from there she and Jaune are on better terms as friends (which can be seen in V3 when he calls Weiss after getting out of the locker Pyrrha shoved him in). During V3, she's approached by her sister and financially cut off by her father. After the Fall of Beacon, she's forced to return home and is basically put in a sort of Brittney Spears house arrest, where she's only allowed out by her father to do whatever he wants her to do (I think that's what happened, I'm not really aware of what exactly happened during the whole "conservative house-arrest" thing from a few years back), until she escapes and is then captured by Raven until she's rescued by Yang. They then go to Haven and reunite with Ruby and Team JNR, and once Blake comes back, Team RWBY is back in full swing!

Okay, I think that's enough to make the point, but I do want to bring up something that is going to piss people off, because of course it will. It's about Weiss' likely endgame ship, White Knight. I said before that RWBY doesn't know how to do romance, but... Looking at the character developments of both Jaune and Weiss and they just somehow start leaning closer and closer, contrary to how they started out. Like, I know I'm not the only one seeing two characters with full-developed characters starting to get closer, so how is it that BMBLB sucks so hard with their story if it's the canon flagship?

Don't believe me? Think about what I was talking about with these characters. Do you know what the biggest difference is between the stories of Weiss and Blake and Yang? The answer is that Weiss actually has a story. Blake and Yang just are just... two halves of one whole. Weiss is completely independent of Jaune, and yet they both managed to grow without each other. I'm no relationship expert, but if you're relying on another person to have a character arc, that's not a healthy relationship- That's codependency.

Oh, but what do I know? I'm just an idiot on the internet who makes incorrect quote posts. My opinion is invalid and should be tossed out and disregarded. Tata~!

Tired of seeing RWDE posts on the RWBY tag, I just wanna scroll and enjoy RWBY posts in peace.

And apparently they're hating on Beyond??? Why??? Is it because Jaune has more screentime?

Smh they'll look at RWBY and find the most stupidest reasons to complain and to harass RWBY fans. 🤦

If Yang was a guy then I think that Bumblebee would be the biggest incel wet dream ship out there with how Blake has been treated tbh

A queer woman: listen, I want good queer representation. It’s important to me! But bumblebee isn’t confirmed. They haven’t been confirmed for years, and the writers have been using the potential for this ship to queer bait.

Y’all troglodytes: OMG YOUR A HOMOPHOBE!! How dare you shit on rwby! Even though the company that made it called their employees the F-slur, they’re not homophobic! Your homophobic for wanting good representation! It’s not queer baiting! Bumblebee just has years and years of teasing! That’s not queerbaiting!

while i’m trying to actually draw something please help me to decide

The more interesting option you choose, the better

my personal fav is 5 because…you know

1. Ichigo Adam

2. Nipple zipper emo girl Adam

3. Yang’s fantasy Adam

4. Cersei Lannister Adam

5. BDSM ninja Adam

6. Zuko Adam

7. “I’ve perfected my creepy stalker semblance” Adam

I would add “Tavros Nitram Adam” option, but that would be too easy for you

Sometimes I have to wonder just like… how starving are other queer people that BMBLB is this massive ship with people who harass others for not liking it?

Like I get wanting to see queer ships become canon, and this one is almost… probably going to be canon, but it feels really hollow and not worth getting so mad about people disliking that there’s a special name for shippers of that ship that get really aggressive.

I guess if you’re mad people feel like that it’s bait, shouldn’t you want the creators to… make it feel more fully realized so those people wouldn’t feel like it’s bait? Maybe I’m just a bitter gay man tired of this shit while gay men exist almost exclusively as “this character’s parent” in animation and the ones that aren’t very rarely get to have happy relationships, but like… y’all are gonna get yours, but there’s room for it to be better.

Jaune makes it to yang " they closed the bus routes sorry

Yang " I noticer now get on

Five blocks from the hospital yang bike breaks down

After taking 7 minutes and 23 seconds to clean up his mess (And GREATLY Urged by the very understanding Stall Owner) He finally finished his mad dash to the meeting point, where Yang bobbed on her bike, clearly impatient and waiting for him

Jaune: Sorrythebusroutesareclosed!

Yang: I NOTICED! Get on and Try not to vomit!

Jaune barely held tight to Yang before she rocketed - Or more accurately Jetted - down the lane.

For you see BMBLB-2 wasn't your average Motorcycle. It was a highly advanced, one of a kind anti-gravity cycle, modified to be far more agile and aerodynamic than the ones Pietro built back in Mantle before the whole "Atlas Falling" fiasco.

They tore through Streets, more than once riding along the side of a building to avoid the busiest streets. They made just out of the main downtown area, clearing into more commercial zones when a loud bang sounded and BMBLB-2 slammed into the ground, throwing it's riders into a wall while the bike itself eviscerated a car parked on the side of the road. The Bike was surprisingly still together, just roughed up.

Jaune pushed himself to his feet.

Jaune: YANG! WHAT HAPPENED!

Yang: I Don't know! But We've gotta keep going! I'll pay for it later!

So... As Rose Garden week wraps up and as people are talking about whiterose. I generally have a question for the fan base.

Why do people ship Rose Garden/ Whiterose?

And I'm open for discussion. I'm not one of those anti Bumbleby people who are so firm on it being.. whatever. (Duh cause I love bmblb but that's not the point). All I ask is please be civil.

1. WhiteRose

I don't ship whiterose cause I don't see any chemistry. Blake and Yang have a specific dynamic that I don't see really between Weiss and Ruby. Ruby jokes around but Weiss is either a tsudere (which is possible) or she's just not into Ruby in that way. Even with Ruby in vol 9 guiding Weiss away from the chaos that moment didn't spike any.. romantic. I think Weiss and Ruby are very close but I don't think it goes past anything other than platonic. But I'm open to discussion about it. I could be missing a few things.

2. RoseGarden

I don't hate RoseGarden. I think it's cute and has the ability to become more likely Canon than WhiteRose. The thing that gets me is probably something others don't think about is ethics. The series has pointed out that Oscar and Ozpins souls are going to merge. So if Ruby dates Oscar, then is she slightly dating an old teacher?? Unless Ozpin somehow fades as Salem is killed or something, then I don't see this ship working. I do like their dynamic, and Oscar seems to have a crush on Ruby, but unless the circumstances are right, I don't think it could work. Wouldn't Ozpin be an involuntary 3rd wheel? That's my issue with it. Again I'm open to discussion on it.

Just thinking about how some Bumbleby fans insist their ship is superior to ships like Freezerburn and shouldn't be criticized because their ship is canon, and how they'll be like "Bumbleby is canon, Freezerburn never would've happened and you're delusional for thinking it."

A. It's a little like the "people say Rwby is a bad show, but it's actually popular" thing, where it's like, whether or not the ship is canon has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the ship is good or well written or non-toxic or any of that.

B. I really do think that one reason why people think "mine is canon and yours isn't" is a convincing argument, or like a hurtful thing to say to people who ship a rival ship like Freezerburn or Blacksun is because of the anti-criticism push in the fandom and the villainization of rwde. Saying you want a different ship to be canon is skating really close to saying you think the writers shouldn't have done the thing that they did, after all. And meanwhile, the anti-criticism push in the fandom has resulted in this thing where 'it's canon' is meant to be kind of a last word on things, or 'it's what the writers wanted' or 'here's what the writers want us to think' is used like they're meant to be argument ending and undebatable. Because the fandom at large's anti-rwde expectations means that the writers are always supposed to be right and that the fans are just supposed to accept and like everything that the writers do or say with a smile. Like, the most you're allowed to say without getting labeled 'rwde' and therefore an evil, bad faith horrible person is 'that change wasn't what I personally would've wanted, but it's still great.' People get harassed and sent hate for saying that the writers make mistakes or shouldn't have done something they did. So of course some bees fans think that saying "well Bumbleby is canon and the writers never would've gone with Freezerburn" is going to make people feel badly or is going to make them rethink their own shipping preferences. Of course some bees fans feel better about their ship themselves simply because they can say it's what the writers wanted, so when they see a post about how a different ship had better development they can reassure themselves by sending the person messages telling them "that ship isn't canon and my ship is canon, hahaha."

C. The way the writers talk very much so implies that they're easily swayed by fandom opinion. For example, recently they were talking about Neo and how they essentially killed her off in the end and how they viewed her as irredeemable, but one reason they gave her a more sympathetic end and had her 'bow out' was because a lot of people liked her character a lot. And that isn't a one off occurrence. The writers often talk about how the audience reacts to things and how they've tried to work through audience complaints (badly, but that's a complaint for another post.) So, I'm supposed to believe that bumbleby becoming canon had absolutely nothing at all to do with it being the most popular ship in rwby (and again, popularity doesn't equal quality) and that if Freezerburn hadn't been more popular, they wouldn't have gone with it? I don't believe that. 'Planned from the beginning' or not, the writers carry things out or change things based on the fandom already, so idk why I should exalt bumbleby as the superior ship just because they're canon. Arkos is canon too, that doesn't mean I have to like Arkos or like it more than shipping Jaune with Ren and Nora or shipping Jaune with Neptune. Renora is canon too, that doesn't mean it's inherently superior to Sugar Rush and that there's nothing to complain about in how the writers wrote Ren and Nora's relationship. XD

I ship Han with Leia in Star Wars, I've liked them since I was a kid. Imagine if I went up to perfect strangers who shipped Han with Luke and was talking to people about wishing they'd gone with Han and Luke, and I was like "haha, the ship that I like is canon and yours isn't! Luke and Han was never gonna happen, you delusional idiot!" That'd be not only asshole behavior, but it'd also be totally irrelevant to the conversation and completely meaningless to the person who clearly already knows what ship is canon.

So yeah, tl;dr version of this is: Ships that are canon aren't inherently superior to ships that aren't canon. The writers are swayed by the fandom anyway, so it could've just as easily been freezerburn if it was more popular and popular doesn't mean good. The anti-rwde, anti-criticism stuff in the fandom is one big reason why these shipping wars even continue and why some bees fans feel so superior about their ship. And it's entirely irrelevant to discussions of quality to brag about a ship's canon status.

What's your opinion on the news that CRWBY had Bummblee planed for 10 years, but only got the ok to do more with it on Vol 6. Personally, my mind is split. One hand, they could be lying and trying to cover the fact the ship being cannon is a last minute addition. On the other hand, what they said is true, and someone thought this was a good idea. Which ever way I think on it, it doesn't put bumblee in positive light for me. I don't dislike the ship itself, but the way the writers have been handling it drives me up a wall.

Yall have gotten really cozy asking me stuff that will get someone potentially upset. 💀

You also assume I keep up to date on everything. I had no idea this news existed. Here’s an average take of the top of my head, if this is true then the events given don’t really reflect 10 years worth of planning all things considered.

Second, if it’s true then Rooster Teeth help create unnecessary tension and controversy with the way they chose to make Sun and Blake interact.

Third, if this is true then they should be forthcoming with what exactly they mean. Your wording implies there were limitations placed on what they were allowed to do before V6 and if that’s the case then I would like to know what those were because it could explain certain things about why something did/didn’t happen.

If this is a lie then it’s a pretty miserable one. It’s no secret that this fandom has influenced the writers to make certain choices for better or for worse. The truth might be ugly for some people but it would be best in the grand scheme of things. Me personally, can accept if they said “We didn’t originally have this in mind but after x,y, and z, we chose to lean into it for the story” I would be fine.

Some shippers would be mad if it wasn’t planned originally but honestly they should shut up in that scenario because they won in the end. And for the haters/antis who would rant nonstop who would try using that knowledge as fuel; they should also shut up because it’s not the most uncommon thing for a piece of media to go in a direction fans ask for. Whether it’s done well or not is a different story, but they would need to accept the fact in this instance they didn’t win

I’ve gone on the record saying I don’t mind Bmblb; I mean I freaking write them occasionally and even gave them kids. However, I find so many other parts of RWBY interesting that it’s very easy to say “why is this here?” Whenever a bmblb moment happens because they put out so many crumbs in the middle of more matters. It’s hard not to see a moment and immediately know it’s gonna flood the internet in comparison to whatever else happens in that episode. That’s the “buzz” kill for me.

Do you think Disney/Marvel might help them, or maybe Neflix? Would love to see a RWBY x Marvel crossover. Considering how much Disney pays for a one season Marvel show. Funding RWBY from volume 10 and forward would be a drop of water in a lake.

As MUCH as I love the idea of RWBY in the Marvel Universe, the caveat is that it's DISNEY, who are NOTORIOUSLY anti-LGBT. So BMBLB, Saphron and Terra, Coco? GONE.

If it wasn't for the House of Mouse's policy, I'd be all for RWBY teaming up with Marvel. But there's also the consideration that there would be live-action movies that have been little more than garbage (with a miniscule amount of successes, but it's mostly bad).

So no. No Disney and Marvel x RWBY.

Rwby for the ask meme

Oh boy

Fav female character: Raven or Cinder, leaning more towards the angry clown tho

Fav male character: Jimmy (v8 ironwood isn't canon idc, v7 is what counts) and Tyrian

Fav season: either 1 or 2, 5 used to be my absolute favorite but after a rewatch...yeah no

Fav episode: don't have one in particular but v9 ep9 was the most fun I've had in a while

Fav cast member: v1-3 Yang

Fav ship: Rosebird but I also like Schneekos, Crosshares and Spicecream

Character I'd die defending: Raven. fight me

Character I can't sympathize with: Jaune and Ozpin, like at all

Character I grew to love: Cinder, I used to absolutely hate her and now look where we are. Also Salem, I didn't hate her just didn't care much at first

Anti otp: anything that includes Jaune at this point, bmblb (didn't like it since I saw fanarts back in v2 it's not just because of recent volumes), STR poly or Tai x Raven

Gimme a fandom

You know I thought I’d seen the shittiest of the shitty, the worst of the worst, most disgusting of the bunch. Then I saw a particular vid about RWBY’s LGBT+ rep that involved a deadnaming sack of shit that is UoW doing their usual bitching about FG not being canon and blah blah blah, which was bad on its own. Then it dropped down more because the vid maker dared to “dedicate” the vid to a friend of mine that I’d wager wouldn’t want her name associated with it; yet isn’t around atm to say one way or the other. Yet now because of someone popping a notification on a comment of mine on said vid, I’ve seen the shitfest that is the comment section that is a mix of [entitled LGBT+ bratty asshats that have no damn clue what a slowburn is; nor what a mature, healthy, solid, and long-built relationship looks like when being given as much time as the writers want to build it w/ no restraints; nor that different styles have different pacings bitching that BB is still building to happening] and [LGBT-phobic shitlords, antis, and just disgusting scum incels that spend a good portion of their time bitching cause the show didn’t do as they wanted]. Truly a new level of hellscape.

Not to mention how the vid maker agrees with in my eyes an “LGBT-phobe” that says how RWBY was never intended to have LGBT and essentially would be better off without it. Nvm interviews with Monty stating there was LGBT+ in the mains; nvm that Monty in Haloid had a wlw pairing as its MC’s; nvm Arryn on a hot mic in early volume time period (I think v1 or 2) mentioning Blake having a female love interest (thus her being very much intended as bi); and the show’s progressive lean that would fit with having LGBT+ characters that all say otherwise. Then again the same dumbass vid maker popped out bullshit in the vein of BB happening as a result of bmblb, regardless of the writers stating that they don’t shift their story based on fan reactions.

Some people truly are a new tier of fk’ed in the head.