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#and i dont think author intent is The One True Interpretation
jacksprostate · 5 months
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how did you like The Shining?
It was enjoyable, I liked the set design and I do like when a movie has a pretty fluid original soundtrack rather than prescripted beats. Hard not to remember that Kubrick abused the shit out of Duvall. I can see how people get very obsessive over interpreting this movie. I don't think it sparked that in me but it was like, worth the watch. Tbh I think if I didn't know about the immense hype around it I would be even more meh on it. I was sort of always a bit out of place watching it because, purposefully as far as I could tell, it felt as if everyone was acting around each other, without being an interacting whole, which was an effect that just didn't really play out well for me. If I even rewatch it maybe I'll like it more then but for now I'll put it in "It's always fun to watch a movie with my friends but this was solidly mid to me."
#asks#it files into the type of media where an overall simple story is made purposefully vague and more ambiguous and then lots of#specific details are peppered around#as to inspire people to think way harder about it even though#it kind of obviously seems purposefully lacking#which like. i guess some people enjoy that#but I personally prefer movies and books that just unilaterally commit to what they're doing#like it's not complexity that i shy away from at all#but nothing feels more limpdick to me than something that kneecaps its own message to provide a larger avenue for artiste interpretation#all the supposed interpretations of the shining are limited imo by the fact that none of them seem to be baked in as the dedicated thought#i'm all for niche interpretations#and i dont think author intent is The One True Interpretation#but I think a story should be consistent enough that interpretations can be very strong even if they werent the authors intent#or the inconsistencies should be part of the interpretation#which does seem to happen with the shining dgmw#idk#it feels like a very 'why are the curtains blue' movie. and i actually really love symbol interpretation and whatnot like that!!#i just like. when it is more cohesive. i hate when it feels like its being purposefully waylaid#im sure some shining fans may find this take highly degenerate but thats their problem#if youre going to do an abstract interprative piece#the main meat should still stand strongly on its own#and it just didnt feel like the shining's did for me
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quietwingsinthesky · 2 months
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sometimes interpreting media through a shipping lens enhances it, on occasion even beyond the author’s original intent, but sometimes, you do have to accept that your ship was not in the heads of anyone making the source material and trying to force it to fit into evidence of your ship will severely hinder your ability to discuss the actual text.
#and also ill hit you on the head with a brick#posts that. im not going to say theyre about destiel. im not going to say that.#and im not gojng to say it because. i dont need to. you already know <3#and to be clear: its not the interpretation thats a problem here. thats the fun of shipping. its then taking what youve interpreted and then#trying to backread that onto the media itself as intentional. as intended.#dismissing the actual themes and story for evidence of a ship is the problem. u get me?#shipping brainrot is not ‘oh i think these characters would kiss for this reason’.#its ‘this show is and has always been about these characters kissing no matter how much i have to ignore about the show to make that true or#pretend is completely different than its actually presented or straight up make things up to make my ship be a part of the intended reading’#thats the brainrot. the brainrot is when u step off the train of reality.#this is not true about the best piece of art ever made Captain America and the Winter Soldier. btw. that movie IS about bucky and steve#kissing alsjfdjskdjg#(<- okay im being silly here but id like to make a real point here too. the thing about TWS is that. it is genuinely enhanced by a romantic#reading. its not *better* than a platonic one. its just different. being able to see it through that lens does make a lot of the original#movie’s ideas even more complex. case in point like: steve struggling with his dating life. because what shared life experience does he have#with other people who look his age. and the movie is. about. someone who has his shared life experiences. and his mission to get bucky back.#you can see how that lens would be beneficial to the original movie rather than fighting it to prove the ship works in opposition to the#author’s original intent.)
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batmanshole · 11 months
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from what i understand some of the main showrunners for it are jewish but yeah it is really weird that people don’t really talk about the antisemitism of those types of conspiracy theories when it comes to the show
i mean yeah but i just dont think that excuses everything you know. like antisemitism is one of the main things wrong with it, but there's also just... a ton more.
and i think that people should consider that like, regardless of intent of the media, the way people in the general public will consume the media is an important factor. Barthes' thoughts on death of the author pretty much sum up mine here. when an artist publishes something into the world, sure they are a 'scriptor' of their work, they collect the stuff together and decide it, but regardless of intent, the meaning which the readers gather from it is also incredibly important. <- heavily abridged and messy version of the actual concept
basically, this guy argues that we cannot know the original, true intent of the author, and thus literary criticism must take into account multiple perspectives and interpretations, and not just strictly what the author wants.
i have a lot of thoughts on things like DOTA, barthes, and literary criticism in general, and i don't always fully agree with barthes on this, but in this case i think it fits.
like, regardless of the author's intent, putting something into the world with this much antisemitism at a time like this is not productive. the way the show treats it, and ESPECIALLY the way the fans treat it, is not conducive to a proper discussion on the impact of conspiracy theories on the general public.
this is NOT to say that the author's jewish heritage is not important. I have always considered that in literary analysis it is important to take into consideration what life experiences + identities an author has, but I don't see it as the end all be all. once a work is out, it becomes somewhat divorced from the original meaning. of course, the original meaning is still important and something we have to consider, but the way something like this is perceived is important, arguably as much so.
basically, I think that the way a text interacts with society, politics, and the general public is important to consider when talking about its meaning, intent, and impact.
of course I am not jewish, so if someone who is wants to talk about this feel free i'd love to listen.
(also, i don't mean death of the author in the traditional internet sense here. I mean it in its original context.)
also also, in this post by 'author' i really mean anyone involved in major creative decisions, and by 'text' i mean any piece of media. 'literary criticism' also refers to what most people on here call 'media analysis'. i figure most people know this but i thought id point it out just in case.
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the-light-of-stars · 2 years
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idk i'll just write it down, no read more this time cause i don't want this to get deleted like the other one because i dont wanna type it out multiple times. like mentioned for the other post - take this with a grain of salt, as you should everyone's personal opinion, cause erring is human etc etc (kind of wanna make a post about that too):
so the thing about "death of the author" is that it seems like it sometimes gets misinterpreted as meaning "the author sucks and we should treat their work as a separate entity unrelated to them so that we can enjoy it in peace without having to think about the author's bigotry or shortcomings" - an argument i've seen especially often in regards to the Harry Potter books on here but applies to other works and authors as well - and also a dangerous sentiment imo because treating the work as separate from the author isnt suddenly gonna get rid of the bigotry that has already seeped into every line and every fibre of their work, in some obvious and some less obvious ways, but rather what this mindset will achieve is allowing teh reader to ignore these influences of bigotry because 'its ok if i see it as separate from the author and without their influence'. An authors influence is woven through all of their work, even of authors that are trying not to let their own personhood influence their creation (like for example some surrealists claimed to do) , so completelyseparating a work from its authors opinions, experiences and socio-economic circumstances is - imo - impossible.
that said, separating a work from its author in this way is not what "death of the author" is actually about. I am sure others on here have already put it more succinctly but basically "death of the author" means that as a reader you have to rely on your own analysis for interpretation of a work since you (usually) can't just go and ask the author what their intentions for their work were, a circumstance that essentially makes it irrelevant to a reader wether the author is still alive or not, because either way they will not be there to explain their every thought and intention behind each symbolism and metaphor in their work to you.
It means that as soon as it becomes distributed a work becomes separated from its author in the way that it is now open for interpretation for anyone that looks at it, that the author's intent is not the end all be all anymore since individual readers won't be able to always correctly gauge what the intent was anyways (unless an author includes a guide listing every intention and thought behind every single ever so small part of their work with it), that the reader's individual interpretation is subjectively valid and just as valid as the interpretation of every other reader. (although while all readers interpretations are subjectively valid , as they are the only interpretation the reader comes up with in the moment at least and that is something that holds merit, i would argue that there are interpetations that are more objectively true or succinct than others. its the same as with paintings - e.g. one person that doesnt know about the circumstances of the painting's creation might interpret Picasso's Guernica as a representation of depression or inner struggle, which is subjectively a valid interpretation for them as a viewer since it is what they felt when seeing the image and there is intrinsic truth to that connection as far as this individual viewer goes, but objectively this is a painting with a specific historical context intended to portray a specific historical event so the interpretation of it as such is the more "objectively true" one. But still each individual interpretation still is true and valid at the very least as a direct result of the individual viewer or reader's experience)
A book is an orphan in this way - it bears the name of its parent and creator but does not and can not explain the reasoning behind every one of their actions. An author may include a scene or description that may or may not be intended as something carrying symbolism, but wether or not it holds an intention like that is something the reader will never be able to tell with absolute certainty unless they somehow have the opportunity to ask the author about it, which most readers will not have.
Take the infamous "the curtains are blue" for an example: when you as a reader see this description of blue curtains you will not without a doubt know wether this description was meant to hold any symbolic meaning or wether the author added it for as simple a reason as enjoying the color blue and, if it does hold a symbic meaning, you will not without doubt know what the exact meaning the author intended was. You can guess and make logical conclusions based on context of the story, based on its historical and socio-economic background and based on the author's biographical data and their known opinions on things - all of this being part of literary analysis (although ofc you dont necessarily have to know all the context to analyse a work, there's even academic schools that insist you dont need that kind of context at all) - but even the writer of the best most detailed analysis of a work can never be completely certain that their interpretation lines up perfectly with the author's original intent, because in most cases said original intent can't be referenced exactly anymore.
so in conclusion: "death of the author" has to do with literary analysis and isn't a free pass for 'reclaiming' a work by a shitty creator, in fact the creators shittyness cannot be fully separated from their work cause it will have influenced their writing and should be kept in mind while reading and analyzing.
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n0phis · 2 years
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(this is copied from a thread i posted on twitter, hence the vernacular LMAO - a take on fandom discourse from someone who is probably an idiot for posting so be warned)
i try not to speak up about this because of how volatile all the threads involved in c! discourse seems to be but man
everyone likes characters in a narrative they created. there is so much content and so much going on in each viewer’s head that a unanimous interpretation or ‘true’ narrative just doesn’t exist. whether people watch animatics, the original streams, interact with fanart/writing or simply read the events- regardless of what ccs they watch- there is ALWAYS going to be a difference in interpretation that can vary from minute to massive! nobody can constantly consider everything a character has done. the info will fall out of your head, and you won’t realize it! you’ll fill it in with your own perspective! it happens to everyone and it is not a bad thing!
i genuinely worry about getting myself into pqrt territory saying this because this exact thing is my reason to just be and let be, but sometimes it’s ok to let people live with their narratives that contradict your own, regardless of whether one adheres more to ‘canon’ or cc stated information. i am biased towards c!wilbur, probably because i like the cc’s content so much, and i am content to think of dream as a true villain without much interest to look at his full story, and fill in the gaps with stuff that fits my view. that doesn’t mean i think c!dream apologists are bad people or that they condone the behaviour i see c!dream as having! they do the exact same thing i do, and if they want to consume dsmp content thru that lens i dont have any right to come up to them and tell them otherwise.
i’ve been posting for a week but lurking for a year, and ive seen a saddening amount of threads where people share takes and analysis that is meant to stay within their narrative circle (i.e c!wilbur/c!quackity/c!dream apologists or fans) and are attacked with ‘objective’ or subjective fact (objectivity barely exists here, it’s ok to reject canon) from people who are not the target of that analysis. let people talk about their narratives and how they perceive the story, it takes more energy to fight rather than let others be. block people, it’s easy! but coming into someone’s thread angry because their analysis doesn’t fit ‘canon’ is more a show of your character than a productive way of ‘guiding’ others, which is inherently unnecessary within a fandom as broad as this. bias is fine. ignoring parts of canon to create a narrative you prefer for the cc you like is fine!
i know that me saying this inherently contradicts with the belief that nobody should be a fandom authority, why listen to some random person .etc .etc, and i’m genuinely sorry if this upsets you or feels targeted because that was not my intent!
i haven’t even been on twt for a few days aha, honestly that was the catalyst for thinking about this. ive been censoring my own takes on characters because i *know* i have extreme bias and like to twist canon to fit narratives i like, but i am incredibly worried people will take that as me insinuating that is ‘fact’ rather than my personal experience and takeaway if i speak publicly about it. so hopefully having this up will give me something easy to qrt when and if i get into arguments?
peace to all of u, controversial character lovers and haters and everyone in between, go love ur funny block people, the only thing anyone should care about is whether you enjoy it :)
thanks for reading!
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pingintech · 22 days
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Protecting children is the responsibility of everybody in a community. Literally no one in this conversation thinks it should be solely internet strangers protecting children, what's being argued against is that you dont get to choose to not participate in protecting children without being an asshole.
If that is the case here I do not feel the post sans any other context does not clearly convey this but I am also at fault for assuming the intention of the post was exactly as extreme as the post implied on its own i think it can often be difficult to give benefit of the doubt to posts that appear to present outlandish and very polarizing opinions especially on a site where such posts are common
I think "saying that parents are responsible for monitoring the behavior of kids online is actively dangerous and bad" with the context being someone saying simply that parents are responsible for monitoring what kids do online really seems to imply that the belief of the author is that internet safety shouldnt be the responsibility of the parents at all the alternative is leaving it up to lawmakers website developers or internet strangers
i think when you use very eye catching and worrying statistics to support a claim you should be aware of the nuance of your side of the argument and the responsibility is on you to make sure your stance is clear and purposeful otherwise it may seem like youre weaponizing horrible realities in order to bolster an argument that is otherwise potentially problematic
that said i think everyone on the internet ever has in a heated moment made (true) claims without nuance not realizing how others will interpret it (myself VERY included) and i dont blame anyone for it i think it is a very human error
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shina913 · 2 years
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Hey ! thank you for your very long answer ! i really appreciate you taking your time ! ♥️ I actually have to say that i STILL find it hard to believe. Bc there was this point in the series ( which you also mentioned, the one where oc and tae talk and oc roots for them both bc she knows he loves her ), in that part i thought oc was somehow taking the blame. Bc i remember her saying smth like: who am i to hold you back to go to her ? like ? why is she taking the blame ? and to think tae only ( MOSTLY ) felt terrible of going back with jennie bc of oc and NOT bc of the ACTUAL things jennie did irk me. I understand his love for her- i really do ! but how can you be with someone who slept with your best friend knowing its your sisters boyfriend ? who kept it a secret for so long ? who watched your sister being miserable ? who is half the reason on why your sister literally moved away ? how can you go back to her ? and the fact that he punched haru is still so unnecessary to me. You punch him bc he slept with the girl you loved ? but jennie didnt even get a pep talk on how disgusting she is for doing what she did ? all she got was ignoring on his side. and smth that also really irks me is how MAD she got when she thought jk told oc. she literally wanted to take that to her grave lmao. So, i know everyone thinks differently. So i‘ll ofc have to accept your ending ! for me tho, i didnt like that they married and the fact that he didnt even contact his childhood best friend was also not understandable. You can marry the girl who fucked your sisters boyfriend but not befriend said boyfriend who was your best friend since childhood again ? anyway, i dont think us discussing this will lead to smth bc as i said, we all have diff opinions on these kind of things ♥️ i would still really love for your reply tho 🤗
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Hi! You’re welcome. I said that I was open to feedback so I’m glad that this story is garnering varied reactions and points of view. I welcome a healthy discussion on it.
Let me start by saying that my intentions as an author can only go so far. If the story that I wrote didn’t come through or it’s something that a reader disagrees with or questions, that’s perfectly valid! Everybody interprets things differently or has different beliefs and I’m only here to clarify my thought process and rationale in relation to what I’ve published since that’s the only variable that I can control.
That said, here are some answers to the points that you raised:
OC taking the blame; ‘who am i to hold you back to go to her?’
The direct quote here was: 
“Okay so…talk to her,” You urged him. “Answer her texts and her calls. Because trust me,” you clutched your chest, “It would absolutely rip me apart if I took your happiness away from you. What kind of a sister would I be?”
When I wrote this, my intention was not for OC to take the blame and I didn’t think it came off that way? I wrote this line to show that OC is letting go of the past and leaving Taehyung to  make this decision about Jennie for himself. While it’s true that OC could have gotten into Taehyung’s ear and said, ‘Screw Jennie–she’s a shitty person,’ I think that he would have taken that into consideration so he wouldn’t hurt his sister. But again, as I mentioned in my initial response to you–what ever for? What benefit would OC get out of this? Revenge? Okay. That feels good. But for how long?
but how can you be with someone who slept with your best friend knowing its your sisters boyfriend ? who kept it a secret for so long ? who watched your sister being miserable ? 
Have you ever kept a secret from someone you love because you knew that it would hurt or anger them? You wanted to spare them and yourself from that experience? At some point, we’ve all gone through it–no matter how big or small that secret is. If your answer is ‘no,’ then consider yourself extremely lucky!
And Taehyung being willing to look past Jennie’s discretions because he loves her–this is a huge gray area. If you’re an outsider to this experience or situation, obviously, you would think logically and tell Taehyung, That’s not right! She fucked up, she doesn’t deserve a second chance! But love clouds your decisions–if you’ve never been faced with a conflicting decision like that and always see everything in black and white with no in-betweens, consider yourself extremely lucky!
and the fact that he punched haru is still so unnecessary to me. You punch him bc he slept with the girl you loved ? but jennie didnt even get a pep talk on how disgusting she is for doing what she did ?
So Haru being the physical recipient of Tae’s rage is unwarranted but you want Jennie to hang out to dry? They are BOTH at fault here, let’s not forget that! And Taehyung canceling the wedding and shunning her is torture! She was looking forward to marrying him and now that’s not happening. He was her whole life and now she thinks that he doesn’t want her anymore! How is that not punishment enough for her? However, demonizing Jennie is not the point of my story. She and Haru made a mistake–they both recognized that. 
I often notice that whenever there’s a story about infidelity, many people are quick to castigate the woman. It’s her fault. But there were two people who made a mistake here–her and Haru. The difference between the two of them was that Jennie immediately regretted that mistake while Haru decided to take it a step further and break it off with OC.
Of course, it was wrong for Jennie to keep that secret! But rooting it in reality, taking into account all of the factors here: OC being one of her oldest friends, Haru being engaged to her friend, seeing her friend suffer–obviously, that is a terrible thing for Jennie to do. And it was selfish!
Fast-forward to over a year later, with everything out in the open, OC is understandably emotional about all of it. BUT I wanted my OC to think–all this stuff already happened. Was there anything else that OC could have done to change the past? No. Was there anything that Jennie could have done for things to not escalate? Maybe. And sure, Jennie could have told the truth and risked losing her friend anyway. But again, there was nothing that any of them could do to change the past! In the end, I wrote my OC to actively choose to move forward from it. I said as much in OC’s convo with Taehyung:
“…Whatever happened to Haru and I–that’s all done. We were over when I arrived at the beginning of the week and it has remained that way even after the truth came out.”
“But Jennie–”
“Jennie did what she thought was right at the time.” You cleared your throat and decided to tell Taehyung that you spoke to her. “She…sought me out, you know…last night. And we talked. She apologized and…I’ve made peace with it.”
And although I haven't written it out, who's to say that Haru never reached out to Taehyung and accepted his apology? He could have done that (in an alternate universe) and perhaps they might even be back on speaking terms--at least, that's how I have it playing in my head! And you'll see that OC is perfectly happy with JK in the end. Why wouldn't she want the same happiness for her brother, despite the fact that it was Jennie? And really, what purpose would it serve OC to hang onto that grudge when she has her new man who is absolutely committed to her?
I was operating in the mindset where Jennie showed remorse, she worked her way back into Taehyung and OC's family's good graces. She managed to rebuild that trust--which was not an easy feat. It didn't happen overnight, it definitely took some time to get there but they did! The point here is 'forgiven, not forgotten.'
All this to say, I get that there are stories out there that are more clear-cut and perhaps that’s all part of the escapist aspect of it? However, my writing style is often rooted in reality. They may not be logical all the time but I’d like to think that they’re relatable on some human level. I like to read and write stories about characters who live their lives, including making mistakes and figuring out how they can grow and learn from those.
In real life, everybody deserves to be given some room for error. As I’ve gotten older (and even as I raise my own children), I give them room to make mistakes at least once. With adults, I take a different approach. I think that we’re so quick to write off people when we haven’t given them the chance to redeem themselves. Personally, I want to see if that person will show remorse. Then after that, what do they do about it? Are they actively trying to better themselves or do they repeat the same mistake over and over?
And I know that you've made your mind up about it already--you said as much at the end of your ask. You are entitled to that opinion! Your point of view is one of many ways of interpreting this story.
For my part, I can only speak about my intentions, my process, my writing style, and how I generally approach my stories and develop my characters. I put a lot of thought into my fics and when I ask for feedback, I mean it! I'm happy to respond to them! 💜
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gothamcityneedsme · 2 years
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i was too tired to do anything last night so i read some umineko ep1 since i didnt have spoons to do anything unfamiliar (and the beginning of umineko is practically rote memorization for me). so. Ive been Thinking.
ep1 and ep2, Legend and Turn, as authored by [redacted] form our understanding of the setup for all of the following episodes--of which the gameboards are authored by Tohya of course. I interpret the authorship and the works existing as fiction as being non-magical tellings of the board, ie like traditional mystery novels. I do not think fantasy scenes or tea parties (exception of ep7 tea party which is the representation of what lies within the Book of the Single Truth) were written in the novels/forgeries.
Anyways with that established. The point i have here is that i loveee that [redacted] wrote in a way that properly introduces the mechanics and characters, and even hid their own identity within. And that they wrote claiming they were Maria for both of their forgeries....and the implicit implication that other forgeries written by them were lost to sea.... I wonder if all of their forgeries had these set up elements--they wanted their writings to be found, they wanted to give enough context for a story to be plausible, for a beloved mystery, for an answer to the tragedy that hides their own self.
Meanwhile ep3, 4, 5, and 6 were all both online and published novels by Tohya....who approaches with a very different intent than [redacted]. Tohya approaches with a fascination for the event, with the assumption that you have read or know of eps1 and 2. The exposition is cut away to various mysteries, living in the mythology set up by our original author (and inspired by the real life true crime lol).
Side note (again. I am terrible lmao) but I wonder if Tohya at first thought his obsession (which was HESITANT and UNCOMFORTABLE to start) was due to just...fascination with the true crime? Like. Thats where Ikuko is, though i believe her feelings for the event deepen and shift as she encourages Tohya to help him, and as she faces for him to the public, even taking his name, which is ironic considering she gave him her name and that the surname is hers. Ep4 and ep8 sort of skirt around the true crime thing but its presented more as people being interested in devouring a story destructively--"rip out the guts".
Anyways ultimately im just interested in authorship and what that means, and the fact that Tohya, as one of many forgerists (but the only one permitted to do so imo which is part of why we are only really shown his forgeries--again im cutting out metaworld things here, as like, ep7 lion as someone bern discovered *could* be a 'forgery' but im going with the literal sense--not what exists in fantasy but what was published in reality--which cuts out all of the metaworld), works on what [redacted] built. Its like how they used to write together, make stories for each other.... Except its unknowing, and quite complex on Tohya's angle because acceptance is something hes strangling himself with. His identity and memories all jumbled and terrifying.
Ep3 as his first work is interesting--that is why ep3 is the first episode we see with a survivor--the "canon" survivor. Ep1 and ep2 were written as concepts, revenge fantasy and wishful thinking by [redacted], before any actual events. The catbox, before it was shut. Ep3 is obviously written post-catbox, using what little initial info that exists and that is known at the time...... Its just.... Interesting.
As more of Tohya's memories return, his writing becomes more directed. Ep5 is striking here especially with the appearance of "the man from 19 years ago". He's written so terrifyingly, its actually sort of chilling that Tohya writes this figure, someone [redacted] doesn't appear to have conceptualized. This is both Tohya's self-fear to me, but also truth-learning--I dont recall how Tohya and Ikuko would have learned of this truth, but I don't believe they could invent this character without knowing.
It makes ep6, the "game" a much more...gentle and wish fulfilling thing. Tohya, underneath including everyone's (witch hunters') favorite plausible OC, wrote a story where no one had to die, where things happened differently, and in that, imo, shows truly that his terror has started to shift. He has started to be less afraid of these stories, and more motivated by love.
This isnt organized or anything, just a lot of thoughts I've been having....
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first-only · 2 years
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You got any tips on how to analyse media properly?
I don't think I'm too bad at media analyse, but it is always something that I've wanted to better at (and a good skill to have imo! Even if it's just a basic understanding)
See, this is not aimed at you per se, but i really dont like the way people use 'media' now. "Media" could easily also (and sometimes primarily) mean, like, the news. Which is indeed something you very much need to learn to analyze and think (actually) critically about. What are the sources cited? What are the sources' backgrounds, and groundwork, and motivation? Who pays? Who owns the media? Did you look at different sources reporting the same thing? And if you have access only to shitty sources, try to separate the cold facts from emotional manipulation and twisting words and stories (eg our prime minister is talking about unity while actively bribing other parties' representatives. 'unity' takes a different meaning here, yeah?). Think of consequences, not ideals. Even if the ideal is protecting children, will banning drag queens from schools achieve that? What will the actual result be? Are they even trying to protect children or is the goal elsewhere? Media, as in reporting and news work, is genuinely the best to learn to understand tbh.
As for fiction and non-fiction prose and poetry, which is what im assuming you're actually talking about, there's no real set in stone 'real' and 'true' analysis take that can hallmark doing it 'properly'. Of course, some people will tell you it's 'obvious' and then oscillate vastly between approaches themselves. Let me make this more clear - when talking about interpretation and analysis im always reminded of a work of poetry i studied in high school. It was a poem called "you will be wearing white" (in my native tongue), and everyone in class was convinced that, yes, obviously the author is talking about marriage. He's talking to a woman about the future, about /their/ future. Marrying is never mentioned, but love is hinted, she has to be in white. Simple, right? Except our teacher was extremely adamant that no, the poem is definitely not about marriage. She listened to our arguments, called the interpretation shallow and then explained that the work is about the relief of the future, freedom, and happiness. Why? When it was written, brides did not wear white. Marrying for love was.. well, not impossible but definitely not how you would mention marriage one-sidedly in a work of art. White was a color not for a bride, but for a woman free from having to work hard to feed herself and her family, a woman with enough money to afford it. The intent of the author wasnt "i will see you married to me" (or "i will own you", as the teacher would say); but "i will see you happy [and i will be happy too]".
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Which interpretation is more valid? A bunch of high schoolers saw a love poem with a white dress, and thought of a happy marriage, that signifies future happiness. A lit teacher, used to interpreting marriage as the other side of Death, in symbolic meaning of course, and aware of the cultural and period background of the writer, tells them the original way it was meant to be interpreted. A 'modern' outlook versus authorial intent. Now, with all of the blatant wrong info floating around, let me tell you, /this/ is what death of the author means. Interpreting the text for itself, without the background or intent woven into it, even if you know it.
Now, to do Actually Proper, or /academic/ analysis you will have to either follow the author's works, life, intentions, and gimmicks closely, or you will have to catch and learn references to known classics. Especially biblical symbolism and references are an integral part of the classic analysis of (western) Classic Works, and catching how they're interwoven and reference each other is exactly what they teach you in school. Another huge part of this is learning how symbolism works (both in the particular text and outside of it - local symbols and widely used ones). Big archetypes are commonly referred to and used as a base of analysis, and i mean the actual meaning of this word by Jung (and by extension Freud), interwoven into literature on a bigger scale by Joseph Campbell. Im saying this because Star Wars is a good example of what im talking about - Campbell and Lucas are good friends, and the original trilogy is ripe with archetypical symbolism, it's effectively based on it. A simple example - Luke breaking Vader's mask in a vision is usually interpreted as a hint that vader is his father, but thats not the symbolic meaning. The Mask is an archetype - it covers the self in what it wants to see. In breaking the mask, Luke is discovering his fear that if he keeps on this path, if he lets the dark side guide his instincts, he will turn into what vader represents himself. It's a warning, not a foreshadowing. (now, the giant tree, that is the archetype for family, is very much foreshadowing and warning that his roots are in the Dark).
Obviously this approach has many critiques, and not every story will follow or acknowledge it. That doesn't stop you from analyzing it this way anyway. There is a reason when people write analyses theyre calling them "an analysis". There is place for interpretation, a lot of strings to pull, a lot of variables to take into account and a lot of approaches to consider.
Let's look at the infamous blue curtains. Were the curtains always there, and always blue, or are they mentioned specifically for this scene? Does the writer use the color blue in the work before to establish a particular meaning within the confines of this specific work? Are the protagonist's SO's eyes blue for example? Were the curtains in his childhood home blue? Does the writer use common symbolism often? Is blue the color of sadness to them as it usually is? Is the writer so inept as to not know that every word written on a page of a book has to have a meaning? (ie the "the curtains were fucking blue" approach). Or are the curtains a symbol, the cover hiding the outside world from the eyes of the protagonist, and painting his view in blue? Are the curtains the archetype of the Veil, the walkway into the underworld? Thus is the protagonist thinking of death? Does he feel dead? Is the protagonist dying? Or being reborn? (for in symbolic language death itself often just means Change).
None of these readings are Correct. Some would be based on the entire work's properties (looking for other symbolic language for example), some might be supported by the author themself (outside of the text), some might be rooted in cross-references to Classics or religious or culturally significant texts. Others might be a projection of the reader themself, what does blue mean to you? But no matter which approach to analysis you take, finding ways to support it can dip in different wells.
Let's go back to SW to have more clear examples. The dominant social media approach seems to be that The Empire is the nazi regime and everything is intentionally made to look and feel this way. Is this supported by authorial intent? Or is it more of a modern interpretation by people who want to find their morality everywhere. There was a post flying around mocking someone for saying Anakin is a Jesus figure, but, regardless of that person's other views, that /is/ a valid interpretation. Be it that Vader is actually the antichrist who fooled people into thinking he was a saviour, or be it that the story can be read as an attempt at construing what it would be like if their lord was in fact a mortal and fallible man. And Lucas? Lucas has given enough interviews to show that he was just writing about his special blorbos and their epic story about the magic of the universe.
When it comes to modern storytelling, be it shows or movies, etc, the approach to analysis is often Doylist first. Who is the target audience? Who paid for its production? Was there censors and content policies? Who are the actual writers, what conditions did they write under (did they know the whole story? were they allowed freedom of creativity? were they paid enough? how did they get that position?)? Was the story influenced by fans/social media's reaction? I feel like this is where the modern meaning of 'trope' comes from - it's more of a cliche, a setting of "the good guy" "the bad guy" and so on. Easily digestible and reproducible. That doesnt mean there isnt merit to deeper analysis however. Even if its unintentional (and thats not always the case) sometimes the best stories come from disjointed and confused narratives. A game sequel forgot about an entire essential part of the lore? Maybe something happened behind the scenes that explains it, and furthers the current narrative. Practicing suspension of disbelief and being charitable to the narrative is never wasted imo, you practice creative thinking and watsonian explanations, thus an 'internal' interpretation of the narrative.
I honestly think the most immediately helpful thing when approaching a story is your own, personal, what used to be called 'emotional intelligence', now emotional differentiation. Yes, knowing your own feelings, but also ability to decipher and interpret characters' feelings, emotions, goals, driving forces. The general theme of the narrative, and yes the narrative itself - what is the story about? Why did Luke refuse to kill Vader? Did he betray the republic for his family? Does he sympathize with a murderer? Did he Choose the Light and realize that walking into the dark side will make him worse? Or did he showcase his own character and personality, defend his own principles? Or all at once?
You know, i genuinely think that doing some analysis of fics can help with the basics of interpretation. Even bad fic. It's easier to see what the author is trying to tell you, and how they're doing it. Are they telegraphing simple movements just to make you understand the physicality of the situation? Are they trying to make it poetic and how? When reading a more advanced versus a more inexperienced writer, where are the differences between their ways of showing intent, and achieving it? The strings of symbolism and metaphor are also usually better visible in fic for an inexperienced analysis, because you can both juxtaposition the original text, and get an interpretation of it. And then, beyound authorial intent - how does your headcanon and interpretation of the canon differ from the fic author's? Why? Does the original text support their reading? How? Do the intent and the result in the reader match? What words do they use so their fic can be interpreted differently than intended? (the amount of 'fluff' ive read that was actually an unintentional horror lol).
I do want to say that if you're trying to get better at analyzing in order to participate "better" in fandom, that's your choice and all that, but it's not necessary. It's a buzzword nowadays how "critical thinking" and "actual analysis" in media are rotten and forgotten, but the fact is - this is fandom. Yes overanalysis and essays exist, but they were never lit crit or academic essays. They serve the purpose of fandom. And the purpose of fandom is very often, very expectedly, and very normally, "the curtains are blue, because his lover's tie is blue". There's nothing wrong with that. This is a hobby. We're here for fun. And way overanalyzing something in a completely haywire direction is tons of fun. Like hell, my personal take on a shallow ass FPS game with a base mechanic of healing orbs and vampiric attacks? Souls exist in this universe, thus soulmates too, thus my headcanons are toootaly canon-compliant. Was this the intent of the shallow FPS? Hell no. Is it supported by the source? Sure.
Worth saying however that like actual academic lit crit and analysis is a whole ass science and a huge field with many resources, theory and /a lot/ of work. If you want to get into it seriously, classes or at least reading theory is kind of a low bar, to be honest. And reading /a lot/ of classics - cant catch those references and universal symbols and common lit knowledge if you havent experienced them. It's genuinely not just making some shit up on the basis of five lines. And honestly? A lot of the theory is biased, and subjective, and western-centric so you gotta analyze the analysis theory. Yeeah.
Now the actual advice i will give you when it comes to existing in a social media world that's viscerally discoursing over every story is don't get gaslighted. Just because everyone is shouting loudly about a particular interpretation doesn't mean it's the only valid real one (or that it's valid at all). Listen to yourself too, read the source for yourself, if you care check on the author/s (and disregard as needed). If we went on tumblr one day and the dash was covered with new hot takes over how Luke is supporting fascism by not mercilessly killing his father will that mean he is the villain of the story? We've seen the Steven Universe/Aang is the real villain takes. Were they the villains? Is the claim supported by the text? Was Kylo Ren a one-dimensional villain with zero nuance? Did the text support that, regardless if it's his fans or haters that claim it? The Only Rule to make an objectively Valid take is take the entire source into account. Cherrypicking will get you an incomplete idea of the narrative and character. Support your claim with canon examples, references to outside sources, authorial intent, doesn't matter - but if you take a single scene, or a partial context, you're achieving a headcanon and personal fun (which is great!) but not an analysis that will hold to scrutiny and outside inspection.
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kirishimaswife2819 · 3 years
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hi, sorry, I've been kind of having problems. i dont think people are capable of loving me, and I think everyone its going to leave me alone at the end of the day. so, can I request a scenario for izuku, kirishima and denki meeting the reader that happens to feel like this? it's okay if you don't want to do it
have a nice day ♡
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Them Finding Out Their S/o/Crush Thinks People Are Incapable of Loving Them || Midoriya, Kirishima, and Kaminari
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Masterlist 1 || Masterlist 2
↠Author’s Note: I’m struggling with this as well so I sort of based it a little bit off of my own feelings/habits since they’re probably fairly similar to yours but apologies if they’re not. Also ik you requested scenarios but I felt that headcanons would be a bit easier for me to write, and also I did it more them finding out their s/o/crush feels that way than them just meeting them, so I hope that’s fine! If not I can redo these. But I hope you like these! I’m sorry you feel that way :( But people do care about you and love you! -Danielle <3
↠Characters: Izuku Midoriya, Eijiro Kirishima, and Denki Kaminari x Reader
↠Summary: Them finding out that their s/o/crush thinks that people are incapable of loving them and that everybody is going to leave them eventually
↠Genre: Comfort/fluff
↠Word Count: 1.2k
↠Warnings: Reader thinks that nobody loves them and that everybody’s going to leave them
↠Notes: None
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Izuku Midoriya:
When you two first started hanging out and becoming friends, he took notice to how you always were kind of distant, like you were trying not to get attached to him or anything, and that kind of hurt his feelings
Why were you so distant? Did you not want to be his friend? He thought that for a while and he was venting to Uraraka about it and she was like “if they didn’t want to be your friend they would make excuses not to hang out with you, and ignore your texts, but they don’t, right?” and then he realized that it might be something deeper than just you not wanting to be his friend
Eventually, he worked up the courage to confess his feelings for you, and he wasn’t sure what to expect, but it definitely wasn’t what happened
He expected maybe a “oh, sorry I see you as a brother” or “I don’t really like you that way, sorry” or something just as heartbreaking as a response to his, “I think I love you!” that he blurted out after stuttering
But what he didn’t expect was a plain and simple, “No you don’t”
Like, what? How are you going to go around saying what he feels? Plus, did you just accuse him of lying? He wasn’t a liar!
“Y/n, what do you mean, ‘no you don’t’? Because, yes, I do. Why do you think I’m lying?”
And after you explained your reasoning, that people were incapable of loving you and that everybody would just end up leaving you at the end of the day, Izuku was very shocked and he didn’t bother hiding it
How could you feel that way about yourself? You were so amazing and fun and you were such a good friend! Why wouldn’t somebody be able to love you? Because Izuku sure did and he definitely had no intentions of leaving, not now, and he wasn’t sure that he ever would
He wasn’t sure where it came from, but when you said that, he got this sudden burst of confidence, he put away his shy, stuttering self to reassure you that he loved you very much, and that he was never going to leave you
“That’s not true, Y/n! You’re so amazing, and so pretty/handsome, and you’re literally one of my best friends! It’s definitely not impossible to love you, because I do! And if I ever even think about abandoning you then go ahead and take away my quirk because I don’t deserve it if I would do something like that to someone as perfect as you!”
If you’re anything like me, then you’re definitely not going to believe him the first time he says this, or the second, or even the third, but he’s going to continue to say it and do actions to prove it until you believe that he loves you and is never going to leave you
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Eijiro Kirishima:
He didn’t really interpret you being a little distant as you not wanting to be friends with him, at least not at first, he just figured you were a little nervous or shy (and maybe you are) but after you didn’t really begin to warm up to him, he did get a little insecure, and start to think that maybe you just didn’t like him
But he didn’t want to stop talking to you if that wasn’t the truth and if you actually wanted to keep being his friend, so he confronted you about it one day
You two ended up in the kitchen together at like 12 am, you had both been getting a snack and he decided to confront you while you were waiting for your food to cook in the microwave
“Hey, Y/n, I don’t want to make you uncomfortable or anything, but is there a reason you’re distant with me? If you don’t want to be my friend or I’m making you uncomfortable then just let me know! I’ll leave you alone or whatever.”
And then after you replied that you knew he didn’t really like you (as a friend or romantically) and that you knew he was just going to end up leaving you, and that you didn’t want to get your feelings hurt again, his first response was simply, “What?”
He meant as in like, he didn’t feel that way at all, why would you think that? But you took it as, you were right and everything you said was true, so then you went on a whole rant about how it was fine and you weren’t mad at him or anything and you didn’t hate him for it
Mans had to force himself not to run over to you and give you the biggest hug he could possibly give because he didn’t want to make you uncomfy, but at the same time he just wanted to hug you and cuddle you for hours
So, he settled for interrupting you halfway through
“No, no, no! Shut up! I don’t think that, I love you! Why do you think nobody loves you or that they can’t? And I’m definitely not going to leave you! Who told you that? Because I have a few things to say to them.” And when you didn’t reply, he spoke again, “Can I give you a hug?”
And after a small nod, you were immediately in the red head’s arms, your body being squished between his arms, as he hugged you as tight as he possibly could without squishing your insides and accidentally killing you
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Denki Kaminari:
Also took you being kinda distant as you being shy, but eventually he came to the conclusion that he was making you uncomfy or you just didn’t like him
So, he apologized to you one day after class, “Hey! I realized I was making you uncomfortable and I’m really sorry about that! Or maybe you just don’t want to be my friend, and that’s fine too! I’ll just be on my way, thanks for putting up with me!”
But after you replied with that you did like him, and think he was cool, you just knew that he was faking it, and that he was going to end up leaving, he was like “Huh?”
Did you really think he was that much of a jerk? Like sure, he flirts with a lot of people, but you were different! He paid way more attention to you than anybody else, and you were his first choice out of everybody, did he really give off that vibe that he didn’t really like you?
“What!? No! That’s not true. I mean, I know I flirt with a lot of people, but I really like you, I’m sorry if I came off as if I didn’t.”
And then when you continued to insist that he didn’t like you, he was starting to get a little more pissed off. Why didn’t you believe him!? He really liked you, why couldn’t you see that!
Anyway, then he went on a whole rant about how great you were and how much he liked you and all of that, and how he was going to work super hard to make sure that you knew what he was saying was the truth
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animalinvestigator · 2 years
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hi coda sorry for sending an ask abt this but i like talking its like a socratic seminar i think if someone really really resonates with your art and respects it and enjoys it they will not take your character to be a cruel person. basically if someone does have that reading the objective truth is theyre not picking up what youre putting down and while its good to tune into these things in the sense that you can adjust accordingly i think more often than not if a character gets misinterpreted its not a result of poor writing/communication but rather a lack of experience or resonance with the person viewing them. which the author has basically no control over. the best you can do is be earnest and place beacons and people who get it will see it and people who dont wont. its a scary reflection of how real life functions but i think that makes it a little more special doesnt it . anyway i keep thinking abt flowey and chara
hello clyde its ok hi : ) yea its true that there will always be someone who doesnt really connect with what you're trying to say... i really wish i had the confidence to be like , Ok what i'm trying to say isn't even really the point here though. my biggest wish is to be confident enough in what i'm making to let my own intentions coexist separate from how they're recieved, and allow the discrepancy to exist and find beauty in that... but that's a hard thing, because you obviously want them to be as close to eachother as you can possibly get them...but like you said, so much of that relies on the life that the person who is recieving the art has lived and the way they choose to interface with the thing...its hard to accept that it's mostly out of your control. the artist realyl honeslty does so little of the legwork in the relationship i think.... i said this earlier but i try to have an attitude of like, no matter how they take it, if this can mean something to somebody then that's all i could ever ask for, if the emotional weight it has to me lands with someone else, that's all i could ask for, even if its a completley different kind of emotional weight. even if 5 other people look at it and it doesnt land, if it lands even once, then you won.
i think about flowey and chara a lot too toby fox reads as an example of a kind of person who is really confident about this type of thing....For a guy who has made a game so widely played that its inevitably going to be one of the most misinterpreted things in the world just by nature of how many people are trying to interpret it , he seems pretty at peace with that...that kind of earnesty and acceptance is where i'd like to get. thank sfor the socratic seminar ask hope youre well today
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katribou · 4 years
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Maybe its not supposed to be a racism allegory. It still works for the story and worldbuilding. Just like Beastars, where attempts to compare it to real life won't work since the problems the characters face are really specific to their own society and their own nature, so the story wouldn't make sense if you replaced them with humans. But if the allegory really was the author's intent, then you're right and it was poorly done.
alright. i want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but there is a bit of ignorance to what you say. so i’ll be as thorough as possible about my thoughts.
authorial intent is really powerless when it comes to what a piece of media says or does. if a piece of media harms, but the author did not mean it to harm, does that make the harm any more less? 
content creators and content consumers alike are likely familiar (and if not, should be) with the notion of ‘death of the author.’ from tvtropes’ summary of the concept:
Death of the Author is a concept from mid-20th Century literary criticism; it holds that an author's intentions and biographical facts (the author's politics, religion, etc) should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of their writing. This is usually understood as meaning that a writer's views about their own work are no more or less valid than the interpretations of any given reader. Intentions are one thing. What was actually accomplished might be something very different. The logic behind the concept is fairly simple: Books are meant to be read, not written, so the ways readers interpret them are as important and "real" as the author's intention. [...]
Bottom line: A) when discussing a fictional work with others, don't expect "Author intended this to be X; therefore, it is X" to be the end of or your entire argument; it's universally expected that interpretations of fiction must at least be backed up with evidence from within the work itself and B) don't try to get out of analyzing a work by treating "ask the author what X means" as the only or even best way to find out what X means — you must search for an answer yourself, young seeker. Writing is the author's job; analyzing the work and drawing conclusions based on it is your job — if the author just gave away the answers every time, where would the fun be in that?
>interpretations of fiction must at least be backed up with evidence from within the work itself. okay, fine. so i argue brand new animal is a racism allegory. let’s look within the show to find evidence of this.
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from episode 9: “But Nazuna wants to give a glimmer of hope and dreams to the beastmen who’ve been persecuted and suffered for so long.”
'the beastmen who have been persecuted.’ what exactly does that mean? persecution as defined in mac’s dictionary function (which cites new oxfords english dictionary): hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs. 
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the beastmen are not oppressed because of who they believe in, so not of religious beliefs or political beliefs, with the exception of believing they deserve rights, which plays into... that they are persecuted for race.
i dont really think i need to back up that statement, but for the sake of a sound argument, this is from episode 1.
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it’s clear that this human dude has a distaste for michiru here because of what she is, a beastman, which is essentially what she is, her race. hence racial persecution, or, racism.
in your own words, “attempts to compare it to real life won't work since the problems the characters face are really specific to their own society and their own nature, so the story wouldn't make sense if you replaced them with humans.”
is the above exchange really so displaced from real life? this kind of thing really does happen; being targeted and even beat up simply for existing as you are is not something that is so specific to only the world of bna. 
sure you may argue that replacing humans into the whole story would not make sense and well sure, yes. it is indeed a work of fiction so it won’t be a perfect replication of the human experience. but there is enough situations like the above to argue it mirrors racial prejudice in real life.
the evidence is there, so with the philosophy of “death of the author,” it is arguable this piece of media exists as a racial allegory, whether or not trigger wrote it to be that way. if they somehow did not have real race/minority relations in mind when writing this, which i would find very hard to believe, than it has still become bigger than them. because people who face racism will relate to scenarios such as beastmen being the target of hate crimes like the above, and nothing the authors meant to do really changes that feeling.
when such a scenario as above is set up in the very first episode to give you a picture of what this persecuted group experiences, while simultaneously likening itself to what minorities in real life experience, the treatment in following episodes of said group will reflect back as commentary on real life groups whether or not the authors intended that.
in bna’s case it’s rather damaging with implying this minority group is prone to rage and destruction because of their nature or dna:
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episode 9: “Beastmen are easily influenced by their emotions. When their frustration builds up, the slightest thing sends them into a fury, causing confusion.”
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episode 10: “The stress from multiple species invading your habitat accumulates subconsciously. In that situation if there is a powerful mental shock, the enrage switch in beast [dna] is set off, and their fight instincts take over.”
this is where you may argue in your own words “the story wouldn't make sense if you replaced them with humans.” which, yes that is true, but again this is fiction. the dynamic they establish in that first episode with beastmen being persecuted by humans is one founded in real race relations so the show at large becomes a vehicle to which it addresses race relations.
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ep 10: “They’re [the drug vaccine that cures beastmen of being animals] made to subdue beastmen who have turned savage.”
goodness this almost becomes about eugenics! which is another movement founded on racism and other -isms!
the word “savage” generally refers to wild, violent unconfined animals, which, fine, i suppose, after all these ARE animal people in the show. but the show has established this animal people group as a targeted victim minority. historically in real life, the word “savage” has been a label used to describe many persecuted groups, like indigenous peoples or african americans, in a way to dehumanize them by comparing them to animals and force the idea that they are uncivilized while making the people in power feel more justified about their rough treatment of the targeted group.
i suppose arguably they are using the word “savage” to describe animals as the word originally was intended, but after establishing the framework of these animals as being persecuted peoples, do you understand the implications? are they basically saying yes, targeted minorites, are savage? admittedly i will say that that idea is a big jump, but even if you stick to the world of the show, basically this establishes that everyone is at the mercy of their genes turning them bad... not a great message.
i kind of went beyond the scope of what you addressed in your message, but wanted to show an example of how i think it is very important to consider how a piece of media can very easily become bigger than its creators, and that you cannot hide behind authorial intent saying otherwise when media expresses potentially damaging ideas. 
to reiterate the line from tvtropes: Intentions are one thing. What was actually accomplished might be something very different.
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char-lotteral · 3 years
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I agree with Kishimoto never trying to use the girls. The hate they get is not fair. I used to defend Sakura back in the days because I hoped kishi would do her justice. When shippuden started I WAS SO HAPPY because I thought this was the start of something great for Sakura and the girls but NOOOOO. Every time, Sasuke showed kishi turned her brainless. If you compare Naruto's actions and Sakura's actions to sasuke, you'd see they're completely different. What's up with that weird fake love confession scene 😭? It makes her look like she was manipulating Naru. JEEZ.
Also he literally had badass Tenten and Temari with cool useful abilities and he didn't use them ?! TF ?! Thank god for modern authors who treat their characters with respect :)
okay2 you know how i am with these longass rants so click readmore and brace yourselves
The way I see it, Sakura's character development in shippuden was always one step forward, two steps back. She gets this really badass scene (like her fight with Sasori and those cool ass medical skills) but is then regressed back into a pining girl in love every time Sauce is on screen or Kishi just throws her in the background YET AGAIN.
I love Sakura's abilities actually. Her brute strength, intelligence, vast knowledge and skill as a medic nin. But what I dislike about her character is how kishi handled her feelings for Sasuke. Naruto and Sakura's obsession with Sasuke was so???? huh??? it was so damn toxic and i never once understood why both Nardo and Sak were so obsessed with him. They were a team for one year???? I mean its great that they care about him alot but Sauce's feelings were kinda valid. His freakin clan died. Id go batshit crazy against my own village too. BUT BESIDES THAT. Both Nart and Sakura's Sasuke obsession was so annoying. 80% of shippuden was literally Keeping up with the Uchihas or Naruto yelling SASUKEH. BUT what irks me so much is the fandom's double standards with both Naruto and Sakura. "Oh Sakura shouldve gotten over her Sasuke obsession" but then turn around and call Naruto's obsession cute and gush about how he's so in love with him!!
Hot take but the only reason why sasunaru is "the most developed ship with the most chemistry" is because theyre both male characters.
I guarantee you if Naruto was a girl and SHE would be the one to have this unhealthy obsession who was chasing around Sasuke, the fandom would shit on Naruto just as much. And if Sasuke were a girl, Sauce would be sidelined like the rest of the female cast and Naruto would have another male character to have a "brotherly bond" with, because thats the only bond Kishimoto is actually good at developing. Yey for male characters having all the screentime and cool assets <333
And about that confession scene, I get her intentions. I really do. I understand that she did that in order to bring him home and that she cares about him but honey, w-why?? Why lie to him about your feelings?? Supposed he DID believe her, then what? then what kishi???? huh??? Some of her fans point the blame on Sai or whatever but I personally dont see why that scene was at all necessary. Maybe to establish Naruto's feelings for her wasnt all that serious? or his maturity? idk man. That scene was such a clusterfuck.
In the end her development in The Last and in Boruto was immaculate. She had one of the best glow ups in the old gen and ironically enough, her character wasn't butchered in Boruto. She got badass scenes she was cheated from in shippuden. I also love how she's finally getting the spotlight she deserves. Unlike the other konoha 12 :,)))
Okay onto the next female character that Kishi completely wasted. My baby. My light. 🙈 AAAHHH HINATAA.
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN OKAY2 DEEP BREATHS.
Let me just establish this real quick. Hinata's goal was to get stronger because of Naruto, her goal was never to be with Naruto. She wanted to become someone who is worthy enough to stand beside him, someone whom he can consider as an equal, as a partner. She NEVER once said "marrying Naruto-kun is my all time goal UwU" (if youre one of those weirdos who interpret her character that way, youre immediately invalid, go take a hike)
I personally dont have anything against their crushes but to the point of making their personalities revolve around these guys every time theyre onscreen is so fucking frustrating. And with the way he writes their dialogues is so.damn.cringey. Like that one scene in the war arc with Tsunade and Madara
"I mAy bE a WomAn but I aM nOt WeAAKKKK"
BAAHAHAAHHA WHAT?? Everyone else gets coolass monologues and one liners but thats the best you can come up with Kishi?????? Hilarious.
If im being honest. Hinata's character is actually kinda well written. Not well executed. Dear God no. But with the way he set her story, her personality, her chracterization. She's honestly one of the best written female characters on the show. IMO. By Kishi's standards of writing women ofc. She's hands down one of the most complex characters. Her shy personality wasnt out of the blue, it wasnt a cutesy waifu trait. Her abusive upbringing made her that way. Her trauma turned her that way. So yeah, sue her if she looked up to Naruto as an inspiration when everyone else in her family treated her like dust. Shit on her for having Naruto's love light in her dark when her own damn father wouldnt even look her in the eye and her entire clan shunned her because she was "weak." She doesnt owe her family shit so idgaf what they do with the Hyuga clan. Neji and Hanabi aren't included btw
Im not gonna deny that her role in the show was only as the love interest but tbh for a love interest, Im glad her character wasnt so one dimensional. It just pains me SO MUCHHH how fucking wasted she is. Every time she's with Naruto, they always make her into a damsel in distress. They always feel the need to turn Naruto into the heroic prince. How cute.
LIKE THAT ONE SCENE IN THE LAST WHERE SHE'S THROWN IN THE CAGE?? WHY??? LET NARUTO AND HINA FIGHT THAT FREAKING ALIEN GOD TOGETHER. QUIT WITH THE TOXIC MASCULINITY. WE GET IT. NARUTO'S STRONG. GOOD FOR HIM. NOW LETS SEE HINATA THROW HANDS AND PUT NARUTO IN THE CAGE GODAMMIT
Hnggggg dont get me started with her role in Boruto. She's as relevant as a damn houseplant in the manga. They made her into an invisible trophy wife and "the mc's mother" and we all KNOW what happens to the shounen mc's mother once mc is in need of character development :) Quit putting her in the background. Give us that scene where she won against Hanabi DESPITE being retired for years. Give us that scene where she trains Boruto. GIVE US ANY FIGHT SCENE OF HER WHERE HER POTENTIAL ISNT WASTED WTF?¿
Now if you say that Hinata didnt have development. YOURE INVALID. She came from an abusive household, the shyest girl in her class, her insecurities got in the way of her own confidence, had difficulty of standing up for herself now became a loving mother of two, has the guts to kick her husband out of the house(with whom she couldnt even keep eye contact with when she was a kid) became the strongest hyuga, most supportive wife and mother, and has given her kids the comforting childhood she never had as a kid.
She has one of the most beautiful stories in the show and if you think her personality is only Naruto-kun and big boobs, then im sorry that you cant appreciate such a heartwarming story.
And I agree, killing her would honestly make me feel more at ease than continue to see her suffer because of godawful misogynistic writers. But at least let her die in an epic fight. Please. PLEASEE. She got nerfed so bad, i feel a physical pain every time i think about it
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Okay what else. I think Ino got pretty good development. Another wasted potential in shippuden but she's doing good for herself in Boruto. I dont know what Temari is up to. They basically made her into another classic angry mom who beats up her husband for comedy trope. Haha very funny and original! Im not sure with her career, im not that invested in the anime.
Tenten??
oh G O D Tenten. The dirtiest of all. Her jokes about her screentime is so mean and i hate that its true ahsjhs. She was the only female character in OG who's goal wanted to be as strong as Tsunade but what did Kishi do to her?? Sidelined. Forgotten. Irrelevant. Like every damn female on the show :D
Konan shouldnt have died. I blame plot armor. I know in my heart that Konan wouldve kicked Obito's ass if it weren't for Kishi's boomer mindset.
Tsunade had so much hype when she was introduced but died down in the war arc. Madara wiped the floor with the kages. Holy shit. Not only that, but yipee! Naruto is there to save the day AGAIN!!!!
AND UGHHHH If the female characters were given proper treatment then maybe MAYBE all the endgame couples wouldve made fucking sense????¿¿¿
I think that ends my rant. Im not sure how the female characters in Boruto are handled. Except maybe Sarada (she's pretty well executed in the manga imo). But arguably they are sooo much better handled in Boruto than how the old gen girls were. And thats because Kishi isnt anywhere near the new gen female cast. I cant formulate a solid opinion with the other new gen female cast since im not entirely invested in the anime. Not ashamed to admit that I only watch it for the sunshine moments and for Hinata :DD
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angel-deux-writes · 4 years
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Hi Angel! I've been a big fan of yours since HCM, and so I wanted to express my concern for your wellbeing. There was that big break when you took a month or so to finish HCM before posting it in quick succession, in order to not have to deal with the comments. Now, from what you've been writing in the notes to Dorne Rights, it looks like you are experiencing something similar. The selfish fan in me wants you to keep writing and keep posting, but the basic human in me is more worried that (1/2)
you are unhappy. Nothing is worth making yourself unhappy over, particularly not something that’s meant to give you pleasure. A favourite author of mine back in the days of my Spike/Angel obsession had a disclaimer on her stories telling readers to please not leave feedback of any kind, not even constructive criticism, on her fics because she finds them unhelpful. Her comment section was full of chats about various topics in that fandom, rather than her own fiction. Might help. (2/2)
Hello! I really appreciate this message, because you’re right: fanfic writing isn’t good for me.
(lol putting this beneath the cut because it’s way too long)
It’s actually my experience in this fandom that has made me realize that writing in general probably isn’t good for me, but unfortunately I feel a drive to it and can’t seem to stop myself from thinking I’ll one day get published, so that’s a bit of a downer. The truth is that I’m naturally disposed toward thinking that I’m shit, my words are shit, and every thought I’ve ever had is unoriginal and poorly written. It’s always been like that, from the time I wrote my first attempt at fiction at 7 years old to now at 31. It takes a lot for me to share my writing with people. I started writing fic at 14, basically as soon as I discovered that I wasn’t the only person composing stories about Han and Leia in their free time. I’m sure that my fics were horrendous. I give myself a hard time now, but 14 year old me probably deserved it even more. But there were sweet people on the internet who encouraged me (and lied to me) and told me that my stories were good, and that made a huge difference. 
(that and my freshman year english teacher, who was very very cute and earnest and young and made me feel like I could actually be a writer.)
I’ve never been a part of a fandom before. Discourse and meta and long discussions about canon events have never interested me. I’ve said that before, and it remains true! I consume what canon there is, and sometimes I like it, and sometimes I hate it. Sometimes I’m so dissatisfied with it that I need to write something, and so I do. I don’t think I’ve ever written fic for something that I found entirely satisfactory. The extension of my being part of an actual fandom in the past was probably reblogging a few gifsets and recommending it to friends. I’ve just never had that sort of communal experience. This, the J/B fandom, was my first time really getting into it. It’s the first time I’ve ever made friends online that weren’t just frequent commenters on long multichapter fics! It has been exciting and I’m grateful for it! It’s just also probably not good for me. 
It’s just, like, every time I post something, I’m fighting a very loud and very desperate voice in my head that’s saying “you’re shit and you shouldn’t bother”. It’s why I’m so good at writing first drafts of novels but so, so bad at getting past the second. It’s why I usually post fics only until I’ve worked out my frustrations: one or two fics per fandom and then ghosting away forever. It’s very hard to defy that voice and post something anyway, and this fandom experience has taught me that no matter HOW many stories I post, I’m ALWAYS going to have to fight that voice. And it’s gotten actively stronger. “You’re not what this fandom wants” “You’re not good at this” “Everyone’s just being nice” “You’ve overstayed your welcome”. Paying attention, often by accident, to the discourse and the metas only makes it worse, because my brain automatically turns to “well YOU don’t write them like that. That means you’re wrong”. I can tell myself as many times as I want that I myself like many different interpretations of J/B! My brain goes “yeah, but you’re just an idiot who doesn’t know any better. There’s a right way, and you’re not doing it”. 
THIS IS ALL SO DRAMATIC! But it’s just the truth! Every time I post something, it’s against my nature. NO ONE outside of fandom reads my writing! I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve allowed my close friends and family to read things. So while it may seem like, idk, like I should just be able to get over it, negative comments, or even SLIGHTLY critical comments, really hit me hard. For all the positive feedback I get (and I really AM super grateful for it, and it means the world to me), those few critical voices seem louder because they’re agreeing with what I have already known about myself. And so it feels almost like a victory, but a shitty one. “Ha! I was right this whole time! I AM a shit writer, and I’ve for some reason tricked those other people into thinking I’m good!” 
For a long time (much longer than I’ve ever written for any other fandom, obviously), I was able to shove it to the side. The J/B fandom HAS been super good to me, and they HAVE been wonderful about giving me feedback and making me feel welcome and included. But those negative voices are just SO LOUD to me, even though I know logically that they shouldn’t be. 
It would be easy to point to a specific problem and say that my issues will be fixed if only I can address that. I do it CONSTANTLY. Maybe if I stopped tagging other relationships. Maybe if I stopped tagging other characters. Maybe if I tagged my works super specifically. Maybe if I made author’s notes about how I’m a shit writer and people shouldn’t expect things from me. Maybe if I just wrote “THIS STORY IS WRITTEN ALREADY AND IM JUST EDITING AS I GO! PLEASE DONT SUGGEST THINGS!” I just feel like, increasingly, I want fewer and fewer eyes on my fics. It’s the opposite of the problem I thought I would have. But my confidence took a huge hit with HCM, and then I was finally feeling good enough to post Dorne Rights. It was probably a mistake! 
idk, maybe it’s just all the shit that’s going on in the world + in my personal life. Maybe it’s just time. Maybe I’m just running out of inspiration. But the positive voices aren’t loud enough to drown out my own negative self-voice this time, and so I’ve been trying to figure out how to handle it. Part of me wants to delete Dorne Rights with the intention of reworking it and maybe posting it again down the line with fewer tags and a lot more reminders that people can write their own stories if they don’t like mine. Part of me wants to just do a HCM and post it all at once so that I can leave the finished product up (even if I now think the entire thing is garbage). Part of me wants to stop writing fic entirely, at least until the next time I watch something with an ending so bad it fucks me up. I think my solution will probably be a massive step back from fandom for a little while. I’ve been feeling a drive to work on my original stuff, and I should probably lean into that. I would like to still write and post J/B, once I find the inspiration, but I’m tired of feeling like this is a job. I think I got so deeply sunk into this attitude of “I NEED to write and post constantly because these people want me to, and they actually like what I write!!” that I stopped writing things because I wanted to write them and started writing them because I wanted to write things for other people, to make other people happy, and so that they could tell me that I’m not a shit writer at all.
I should make it clear that I do intend to write my JB fic swap thing FOR SURE. I will drag that story out of myself no matter what. But in general it’s probably just healthier for me to not spend so much time On Here especially, and on fic in general.
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lorelaigilmo · 4 years
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Hi. Do you think Taylor has a complete idea of the stories on Folklore like she said in the prologue when making the album or do you think some of it is a way to keep things private? Basically do you think she actually created stories and characters? Like with the song Mad Woman and My Tears Ricochet she explained the stories..a woman seeking revenge on a town she cast out or someone at the funeral of their dead lover. However we know it is actually mainly about being angry and heartbroken over her masters. So she made up that story to avoid speculation? I guess it works metaphorically though. I know TLGAD is actually a true story and I think Exile is pretty complete. My problem is mainly with the love triangle. There is a theory it's about Tom and Joe in 2016 so I wonder if she told us about it to avoid speculating about her private life. Idk if I believe that. However we know that she changed the Cardigan lyrics to fit the triangle after. I kinda prefer the songs on their own and the Cardigan line seems thrown in Betty just to make it connect. August is directly related to Betty but in my opinion Cardigan isnt. It seems like Taylor just gave us the main idea, but she also threw in specific lines like about the car. Does Taylor actually have a complete story for all the characters..like who August actually is to James and how things happened? It seems like she threw in lines and it's incomplete but the lines are specific like the mall and garden so does she have a complete story? I know we are meant to fill in the blanks and interpretations but the songs stand on their own and tell a different story on their own. Together they tell a story but it changes the meaning of the song.I just dont know why she bothered to tell about the love triangle at all. I hope this makes sense. I'd rather it be a full story then just bits and pieces but idk what her intention is.
Okay there is a LOT to unpack here.
In my own personal opinion, these songs started from a very personal place and she decided to evolve them and give them more meaning and layers with the characters and metaphors. I don’t think it was necessarily from a place of concealing the songs’ true meaning to her, but maybe to challenge her songwriting, make the songs something more, use the metaphors to tell more than one story, kind of like in literature you have the plain layer of simple meaning and there’s the message the author is truly trying to send underneath the surface. I think it’s a fascinating form of songwriting and truly takes her to the next level with how complex and layered it is. You can see this in Cardigan actually - she had the birdcage metaphor in the original draft, showing us that the song originated about something more personal to her, but she decided to evolve it and give it meaning bigger than herself, kind of like in actual folklore stories. When I first listened to the album I thought the feelings she described in Illicit Affairs related to when she first started dating Joe - the secrecy, the hiding of the relationship that we heard about in Rep and in Cruel Summer. So I have this theory that she wrote Illicit Affairs as kind of a scenario in her head of how things could’ve gone differently between them if they had kept up the secrecy and not fought for their relationship or whatever. So a seed of truth and true personal feeling with a spin of fiction to it, and I think that’s what the album is.
I do think Taylor has a complete story for the characters, but I think she left it a little vague to let the listeners have their own interpretation of it. I think that a lot of original folklore stories start out as one thing and get changed to fit the narrative of the person telling it at that moment, and so the story changes a little every time a different person is telling it, and I think that’s what Taylor was trying to do. We have all of these songs that seem incredibly specific on first glance, but look at how many fandoms are being related to the songs from folklore. How many different directions the exact same words can go. And it’s all a matter of perspective, and I think that’s the real greatness in this album.
So to sum up, I think all of these interpretations can and should coexist. You can interpret the songs as individuals and you can interpret them as connected stories, you can look for Taylor’s personal input in them or you can take them as far away from her personal life as possible. They’re all just interpretations and opinions, there’s no one real truth here. And I think that’s what Taylor intended for it.
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gg-astrology · 5 years
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If you have the time, could you do a quick overview for Xiumin (exo) for his ideal type/romance or just his chart in general? No rush of course. Thanks in advance, you're crazy talented at this. ❤❤❤
Hey there!! 💞💞💞 I can do his overview no probs!! 💞💞 This probably won’t be talking about his ideal type/romance but I hope you like it! 💞
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[EXO Xiumin/Kim Minseok Overview]
🚫long post 🚫
I wrote SO MUCH for this but then I lost it all because my computer decides to shut off so im sorry if this is :((( shorter than expected.
Aries Sun | Pisces Moon | Aries Mercury | Aquarius Venus and Mars
God ok so I hope I make it in time for his birthday still and I’ll give a quick… overview of the main points I’ve talked about before it shuts off
The first thing to talk about are those Aquarius Venus/Mars he has because damn that’s an incredible thing to have?? I’m going to talk about the placement first before we dive into the aspects
A lot of incredible dancers in the idol industry tends to have aspects to Aquarius– particularly Aquarius Mars/Sun (Chungha, Hoseok, Seulgi oh and Jongin also has?? Aquarius stuff as well??) 
With Minseok, this Aquarius is probably an understated but really really powerful side to him thats– amazing to see honestly!!
Part of why Aquarius placements are incredible is because they have a lot of persevering power. Not just as a fixed/air sign, but also because of his Aries (Sun/Mars sextile) and how it’s working together in his manifestation
Bodily, physically. There’s a lot of tangibility (physicality) to Aquarius even if most interpretation talks about the mind/energy that they embody. It’s the translation of those energy (external/stimuli/noises/source) into something that’s grounded (fixed) onto the physical body– movement, dancing, interpretation of immaterial things into the physicality of the situation/reality is something that Aquarians have an incredible ability to do intuitively as well. 
See the thing about Aquarius is that they embody both the ‘learning/conditioning’ aspect of a craft (certain aspects of the topic, like say ‘teaching’ themselves to do something, incredible perseverance/discipline in this regards) as well as the intuitive/analysis quality of it that comes from the ‘self/self-expression’ 
It’s a combination of Saturnian energy and Uranian energy. That Uranian energy in particular– taking something that’s been learnt and progressing/leading into something that’s ‘moving forward’ with (’yes we know that but then what now/what next’). Having the space/freedom in order to do so. 
These people embody a lot of discipline/control that comes from their own mindset/values (not what socially regarded) and without the ‘title/responsibility’ set on them ‘officially’ by other people (authority giving them titles of ‘leaders’ in something) – they can excel in so many different areas they set their mind to. And that has to do with the ‘freedom’ they are given and their ability to work well on their own terms/set themselves up for it.
You can see your local Aquarius excelling well at something that doesn’t burden them with titles– often times, Aquarius are said to be rebellious and free-spirited but it has more to do with the mind-set or restrictions (lack thereof) that is set upon them by others/themselves. 
Aquarius ARE discipline, but more like SELF-discipline in what THEY want to do. Aquarius works so well when they have a purpose, a space, an area where they can just push their energy into and do their work/show their skill-sets and adjust others as they see needed. 
The dominance/control over their own skills and being respected/admired on the subject helps the Aquarius placements a lot– there’s no pressure of anything ‘official’ but the work speaks for itself, and the respect/admiration/people coming to them for advice truly helps them take on the lead/flourish in what they do.
There’s integrity here, in the way that they demonstrate rather than speak. They are people who really do ‘fix’ alot of their energy into driving power/force of what their skills are/what they do. Aquarius energy (Saturn/Uranus) often let people notice a couple of things about them:
1) They are naturally disciplined, capable achievers and leaders, able to work on their own and with a team. They can handle shit and often times, their Saturnian energy really do enhance their critical eye and they are able to give constructive/creative advice without offending too many people (maybe not in regards to emotions/others insecurities) because it comes from a place of understanding/truly wanting to see manifestation in something and not undermining anyone’s ability as they do ‘the best that they can’ 
2)  They don’t notice that they stand out, even when they’re doing nothing. Its the way they carry themselves, with grace and capabilities. True power of these Aquarians comes from within and their ability to detect and ‘filter’ the bad/good intentions from people. 
Aquarius Venus in particular, can be good at helping others problems out more so than themselves sometimes. In a way, they ARE invested in helping out others but most might not notice this/take offense to it because they can be focused on analyzing/thinking about the problems (and can come off as quite blunt) instead of highlighting/knowing how to word things right (cushion it) to show how understanding/compassionate they truly are (misunderstanding). 
At the same time there’s a strong driving force in focusing on themselves. No messy, no non-sense. Often times they’re fun-loving people but within the square they’ve drawn up for themselves. Discipline remember? If they deem something as ‘tasteless’ then that’s that on that. 
Aquarius ‘fixed/air’ nature is more about the driving force– the movement of getting yourself into this motion/gear of constant movement (air) and the repeated pattern of it. Most Aquarius placements may have to find a way to ‘break’ out of the mold they made for themselves– they are quite self-aware as well so I’m sure most would always notice when they ‘lack’ something and tries to work on it consciously by themselves (through social interaction– often times when people complain that they ‘lack’ compassion or ‘hurt’ others intentionally) 
Most people who give constructive criticism to Aquarius would often mention begrudgingly that they ARE honest/truthful but at the same time, they may often disregard certain emotionality level to it (and thats the main problem for them). 
The Aquarius driving motion– is thinking over the latter part and finding ‘steps’ to overcome it, once they have step one in mind they start implementing it. They work on a trial and error, most of the time as they go (in order to remedy the problem/deal with things as they come). 
Aquarius Venus often has people thinking they’re: ‘freedom loving!!!’ and ‘friendly’ even when it’s?? the ‘result’ of what they’re prompted to do (reaction) not the ‘reasoning’ (like say there’s more to it beneath the layer than that and you can’t take things on a surface level if you want to understand them/have to actually ask/get to know them to not cause misunderstanding) 
What you see isn’t exactly how it is. They’re friendly because they believe in universality, it’s politeness in a way– decency and respect for others/that should be given back to them. If you cross that line, they have no obligation to be ‘friendly’ towards you – they’re not gonna lie there and take it. You have to learn how to understand how they work as well.
‘Freedom loving’ in another way is a case of privacy/personal space, it’s being grounded in oneself (like an earth sign) and a self-expression. It’s for them, not for you. Don’t get it twisted thinking you can’t ground them, ‘freedom-loving’ is a way they ground themselves. This isn’t your call to make, it’s theirs. So respect that too!  
Most people don’t think they’re polite because they’re blunt– but they are polite. They’re thoughtful, just need to develop consideration more sometimes. 
There’s a lot of dichotomy/things we can go through with them because y know– they symbolize two things. The water carrier/vase thing and the the water flowing out. Much like how the other air signs have duality in them, Aquarius has this too but may be more concerned/stressed about how other people ‘dont fully understand them’ but yeah. We’ll get to that soon (in other posts maybe) 
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So that’s part of how he comes across to others, probably at the beginning. There’s a respectful distance with strangers/new people sometimes– observing, can sometimes be a little distance/detached but he has enough nervous energy and friendliness (personability) to not like– come across as someone who’s unreasonable/you can’t get along with sometimes 
(If you’re not much of an overly teasing/dramatic person because that can throw them off a bit bc ‘tf bitch?? we’re not that close yet you can’t do that’ – Saturnian Aquarius respectable energy)
His true core however– Sun/Moon (and Mercury) combination IS someone who’s quite playful. Often quirky, has a sense of humour that’s quite quirky even if he doesn’t SAY say things but rather SHOW it instead (emotionality and compassion flows out more than is said/translated through communication sometimes) 
The main beef here is with that Pisces Moon which really really shines a lot. Minseok essentially — is such a compassionate, sensitive, sentimental (sensual) person at his core. In terms of subconscious, the internal and his emotions, it translates to how he cares about others, his dream/goals and how he expresses himself so much. 
This is the driving force– the Aries acts as the outlets and the way he goes about getting things/doing things. Pisces is the prompter. It’s the part of him that feels, fears, deals and settles things internally. It’s the part of him that creates dimensionality and layers sometimes. Strong need for self-expression and connectivity with others. 
Those with Pisces Moon often tends to be someone who finds themselves using creative media/outlets in order to manifest themselves, because it’s a way they can push all that scattered nervous/anxious/worrier energy out into something that they enjoy and can connect to others as well. They may ‘depend’ on something (music, writing, art, creating something) and often when they’re alone– they may tend to day-dream or let their mind get some ‘rest’ and can come off as someone who has a lot of internal energy they can utilize into the external (if you’re friends with them) 
Amazingly receptive to other people’s emotionality as well, they’re one the fastest people to be fond of others and may often let others cling/hold on/take care of them (or be taken care of but that may happen less often) – most pisces moon people are incredible actors, because they are able to put themselves in other people’s shoes and can ‘feel’ emotions as if they’re going through the same thing (highly imaginative) 
The more they suffer/think of scenarios that makes them suffer the more they get emotional, there’s an element to them that’s self-suffering sometimes (not always)– as in, they may somethings be the kind of worrier that over-stress something/has a habit of doing that (over-think/analyze something) that they may self-doubt or push themselves into the ground (hesitance) 
Because they’re rather fearful of being ‘overly optimistic/hopeful’ and not have that handed to them in a plate (which is why achievements are kinda met with a confused, happy, scared kinda approach sometimes) – they’d rather think ‘realistically’ and self-sabotage themselves from their ‘dream/first choice’ if they let this element of worrying overwhelm them. 
On the other hand, he does have a lot of Aries placements that may be the ‘dependency’ crutch. As in, if his Pisces dreams gets too overwhelming/scary because it’s so hopeful– the Aries is bumped up to help provide support. 
Anything he doesn’t earn with his own two hands (bare hands) and hasn’t climbed/rightfully felt he achieved he doesn’t take. It has to feel like he ‘earned’ it somehow — a sense of principality, if he’s put in effort/worked hard for it then it comes with a price that’s he’s paid. The Aries aims for a perfectionist state (much like it’s sister Libra) but the process is more through proving themselves, rather than tactic/prepped-work/strategy sometimes. 
Pisces can also be— scared of criticism, or worry a lot about perspectives. Other people’s perspective, consideration for things. The overall sensitivity and sentimentality to certain things can often make them pace back and forth by themselves figuring out what to do and how to do things without acting much on it. 
Whilst Aries (polarizing force) can be the absence of that – going back to the basics (full circle) instinct, what they want, the main ‘core’ of the thing tightly wrapped and concentrated/focused on. The sheer belief in something that pushes native through the achieving their goals/dreams without ‘thinking too much’ about things uselessly (efficiency)
The thing about this is, you have one side of him that does think things through. Is sensitive, considerate. Vulnerable and learn a lot from others (want to share it with others) – but he doesn’t speak/say. He doesn’t pull attention to it because maybe who knows who’s going to judge him (criticism) and Aries is against vulnerabilities/exposure of that or rather– talking about it in a way that leaves them defenseless and cuts down on their credibility (it’s like opening the self up bare and the other person looking down on them/stomping on/not understanding them) 
Aries/Pisces combination is more SHOWING through his self-expression, how it’s received. Learning it’s OKAY to be vulnerable in a way– because he has plenty of strengths (Aries/Aquarius) that carrying personal things by himself can become burdensome on his psyche if he doesn’t ‘share’ it with others sometimes as well (Jupiterian influence) 
This Pisces Moon gets stronger, more developed as it expresses itself. There’s moments where he’s intuitive, soft and sensitive and can’t hold back his tears/compassion for others. And there’s time where he’d rather support, encourage, motivate or direct/guide others instead. 
There’s a duality to this nature here. Where on one hand— you get Aries who’s confident, self-assured, may be blunt/crass and decisive. And then there’s Pisces who’s hesitant, sensitive, compassionate/willing to listen but also needs time to itself as well (both do, Aries in order to manifest/do things for the ‘self’ and Pisces to cover emotionally from taking in so many stimuli from the environment)
If you don’t know him that well— there are moments where his Aries may discredit his Pisces side. Sometimes he’s someone who is blunt, straight-forward. Someone who is decisive, based on fair play and honesty– focused on principality. If you want something this is something that is earned/worked for it. Can be quite stubborn, may limit his vision because he can see things from his experience. And sometimes his Pisces takes over, someone who worries, over-stress, hesitant and indecisive. 
You have a duality here of someone who can be pretty vulnerable (or weak-minded) and someone who is also strong, resilience and sure of themselves (confident, strong-minded) you get a mixture of a person who have to balance the two together— because they make full circle right? 
How to not get stuck in either Aries or Pisces but rather balance them both – develop both essentially. 
It’s like on certain topics his Aries takes control– this is how it is, that’s how to get there. This is a sure-fire decision. Talking more about the things they need to tick off. And then on certain topics, there’s a deliberate consideration of emotionality on topics. The goal for Aries/Pisces ultimately is to work from one energy to the other – if you’re a Pisces thinking phrase right now, instead of discrediting your work it’s using that Aries energy to not suppress it (but encourage it/speed it up) it order for it to reach something the Aries can take the banton from and run with (manifest)
If you’re an Aries thinking phase, it’s adding that heavier element (expansive/wider) of Pisces to your thinking and not dismissing it. It’s working with what you have, because essentially – you don’t want to suppress/cut one side off but see it work/develop nicely to do a relay run with both doing it’s equal parts. 
Pisces Moon can also make for someone who needs time to retreat back into themselves– for their emotional state, like being at home/sleeping in order to ground themselves/recharge from their environment. Because they can expend so much of their energy on mundane/external task, being at home and being able to enjoy the simplicity/joys of life really brings them a lot of joy. 
Another thing to touch on is that Aries Sun/Mercury – combine with Aquarius in his placements, he can be someone who is essentially very strong. The trouble with the overly worrying Pisces is one of the main vulnerabilities that should be addressed, because it ultimately balances this ‘strength’ with sensitivity and emotional receptivity but also enhances a fear (Pisces) of being misunderstood (Aries/Aquarius) as well.  
Anyways… Aries Sun/Mercury and it’s strength. A lot of people think ‘oh Aries they HAVE to be loud and crass’ – that’s not necessarily true. Most prominent is their laid-back nature, they’re concentrated on themselves and their experience. An Aries is less judge-y on you than earth signs sometimes, because they don’t ‘measure’ things like others tend to do. 
An Aries respect their personal individuality/freedom, celebrates their own strength/individuality (when it’s healthy) and thus– they celebrate yours/give you the space to do that for yourself. You rarely meet an Aries who doesn’t take personal offense to someone calling them ‘dishonest’ because it’s an attack on their personal integrity (prompt -> reactor) 
None of the messy shit, Aries is more of a defensive sign than an offensive one (compared to Scorpio it’s counterpart)
‘A baby doesn’t cry out of nowhere, it’s prompted by something and that crying (complaining) is a reaction to it’ – Aries level of expression is more concentrated about reacting to the stimuli, rather than explaining the stimuli/reasoning behind it’s stressors.  
It’s more of an action-y type because it shows through demonstration, and in a way a stability in themselves that they are principled and trustworthy. They don’t take kindly to others who don’t have this sense of fair-play or don’t ‘walk the way they talk the talk’ for. Bluffers in particular, has to bring their A-game in (no non-sense in a way even though they ARE silly and playful people themselves) 
In a way it’s also self-discipline. In a way they trust/believe in certain things and ‘do’ something about it. Aries ARE persevering, this comes from Aries before it moves onto Taurus.
An Aries may not be patient but they are persevering, the kind where they butt their heads against the wall and if it doesn’t budge– ‘think smarter not harder’ and try something else (that motion of charging/working/finding something that ‘fits the lock’ and is ‘right’ – cardinal/fire – instinctual/decisive) before a taurus (post Aries who found the ‘right lock’ – continues to butt its head there until it gives – fixed/earth) 
Aries can be great at team-work because they DO care about others, they DO show compassion and are kind to others. Most people for some reason disregard this because they don’t understand/appreciate how the Aries work (compared to Libra/Venusian signs). But it’s in the way they observe from a distance– knows when you’re down/struggling and gives you the time/space to work shit out on your own by blocking challenges/possible threats that will hinder you even more by putting themselves in the way of it for you. 
They pull attention AWAY from you when you need the space/time to work through your shit, yes you can struggle but they need you to meet them halfway because they can’t solve your personal problem for you. YOU need to do it, but an Aries is there to protect, guard, shield and encourage/motivate/cheer you up if you need them by your side. 
An Aries cares in the way they initiate things for you, if you’re a rather shy person they start the interaction. If you don’t want attention they pull it away from you. They care when they sit down with you to check in, giving you their concentration/attention and honesty. 
An Aries cares– sometimes, in the way they physically put themselves in front of you if you don’t want to be seen (or doing things/urging you to do things that are good for you) the way they face things heads on for you and handle challenges in order for you to have more time figuring your shit out. 
They care in the way they physically reassure you– a hand around your shoulder, validation, a nod, whatever you need if they can give. They won’t over-do it but they will care and accept you if you give them a chance to do so. 
They’re close-minded when it comes to themselves, more ‘free-minded/open-minded’ when it comes to others. Trust in an Aries, if you need direction or some stability – they’re great people to be around because they exert more of themselves to make up for the lack of yours. 
These sister signs (Libra/Aries) is about balance– an Aries will know when you’re not exerting yourself/need them to do something in order to equalize the interaction and they will do it. They’re great supporters in the team, as well as leaders if you need them to be. 
But more so than that, they just want freedom to be themselves. You can’t place responsibilities on someone but give them restrictions that makes no sense (linearly) established structure or enough room to ‘bounce off the wall/make their own path’ helps a lot too. 
Non-messy, simplistic. In a way that if something works in the way it’s supposed to then it will. Back to the basics, the clear simple solutions is appreciated (no nonsense) don’t play mind games unless both sides are consented/knows the rules and agreed to play. 
They may enjoy stimuli and equal game-play than they realize– essentially what an Aries want is banter in a way that’s naturalized/organic and plays to the advantage of BOTH individual involved (or more if there’s more participants) – similarities to Libra but in a way that’s more observable/manifestive (fair play, fair minded, balanced in an intuitive way but you gotta bring your game/meet them half way because they can’t solve/bend themselves back for you bc thats not?? fair or healthy.)
Libra/Aries perfectionist streak when it comes to Aries is more about that perseverance strength– tenacity. Aries sets its eyes on something and then manifestation is something they do. Sometimes they can be obstinate, doesn’t listen to others because if they want it they will do it (and occasionally out of spite as well) 
Personal freedom comes with a balance of privacy/private space– and this is something that is amplified by Pisces Moon as well (need to ground) – for an Aries, grounding is being active/feeling productive in what they do. It’s stimulation (fire) that feels like it’s going somewhere– moving flame, and some of the fear/frustration comes with fearing the fire will burn out if it doesn’t get enough wind/action going on. Passion is represented in the flames.
Aries may find themselves frustrated if they don’t feel like they’ve manifested/fulfilled something out– often being hard on themselves for ‘starting and not finishing’ or seeing something fulfilled (stubborn, can sometimes try to remedy/finish a goal by persistently doing it anyways even if they don’t want to anymore because they believe in principle of it instead of reasoning/listening to their own emotionality sometimes)
Besides this– Aries/Aquarius makes for someone who enjoys thrills, often times mental/visual stimulation (VR is more of a Pisces thing but the physicality of movement is Aries/Aquarius too) say someone offers an alternative route— Aries loves innovative ideas and Aquarius likes pulling it apart/the concept of it. If something’s done cleverly, within reason, in order to prove something (improve on something) then they absolutely love it.
Another thing is that they are often people who can motivate others up, a lot of vitality to them especially in terms of encouragement/refreshing energy when they are with those who doesn’t get a lot of it/is depleted. 
Yes a part of him will need to be alone/by himself too but socially, he can be a very sensitive and equally reliable/dependable person because of his strength (uniqueness/skill-set – Aquarius/Aries) as well. 
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Likes something that’s new, thats innovative. If he feels like someone is going in a direction that’s progressive/good for them then he can be someone who encourages/support them in their path.  
I think the whole spiel I did above was to highlight how ‘underdog’ traits can be apparent in Aquarius Venus/Mars placements?? Like no they don’t ask for recognition they show it/prove it, if they know what they’re talking about then they won’t hesitate to validate/prove it even more. Understated, but very efficient/dominance energy. 
Also a lot of Aquarius Mars placement have powerful movements, it’s to do with their control and the energy they put into ‘feeling’ and ‘planning’ (not prior but as they go) what the ‘narrative’ is going to be. 
Cohesiveness is more of the goal rather than like– a prep-planned/pre-planned idea. They like control, but it’s a control that’s more to do with themselves/what they do with their energy rather than controlling anyone else (unless they ask for advice from them)  
Sun/Mercury conjunction and his overall placement does point to a lot of an avid learner personality — learning comes from experience as well as discipline/studies. There can be sense of validation for doing something ‘right’ – for being ‘objectively’ successful in terms of studying or choices because essentially that covers up for Pisces insecurity sometimes. 
If you have this placement too – make sure to look that you aren’t seeking validation from others to make up for your confidence in yourself (which can lead to a lot of ‘me’ or attention-needing attitude) Even if you ARE confident in yourself to an extent, an Aries learns best when it’s perfectionist streak is broken and begins to rely more on itself, rather than subconscious dependency on material validation instead (skill-sets, valuability, social popularity, etc.) 
Positive aspects from Sun to Mercury, Mars (I didn’t look at the Sun-Moon conjunct because it’s 9′ at 12.00pm) but this is very promising because it can point to a rather optimistic person publicly. Often popular because they seem to have strength, gain strength and encourage others through their sunshine attitude even when others are tired out.
If Sun/Moon conjunct at a tighter degree, it could point to someone who may be quite disciplined. Old soul but also youthful, lively but also easily settled back into a listener’s role. Self-struggle is still a thing, but there’s a more positive motion for it as well. 
Sun/Jupiter-Uranus square can point to someone who may often over-expend themselves sometimes. Expansion, exaggeration. All with sincerity but they can sometimes bite off more than they can chew/do for others and thus feels the consequence/frustration with themselves later on sometimes (and don’t know why they feel that way). 
Considering how his Jupiter is in Cancer and Uranus is in Capricorn – it’s more about a sense of balance and stability in himself. Sometimes giving too much to others to a point where he comes home feeling unsatisfied or analyze situation at home/his next plan of action but then getting ‘swept off by the flow’ when he goes out again. 
Moon/Saturn is quite strong in his chart— pointing to the above point about being quite disciplined. His Saturn is in Capricorn, domiciled whilst his Moon is in Pisces – it can make for someone who’s quite in tune with his emotionality but can sometimes struggle to say it outwards and thus, focus more on long-term manifestation of it over time (building of bond, trust, loyalty and established connection) before he feels comfortable talking about it in the open. 
It also points to a strong persevering drive to see his visions (Pisces Moon) through into reality. Sticking with it through thick and thin, his emotionality or rather ‘devotions’ aren’t something to be laughed at all because it ‘sticks’ and thus– impressions stays with him forever.  
Mercury/Mars in sextile and Mercury/Uranus-Neptune in square — this points to someone who does genuinely enjoy a good banter. Even more– talking about issues/topics or in a way that makes things accessible for the normal/less elitist people so that it’s approachable. 
Aries/Aquarius draws down the energy of something that COULD be complicated but is put in a way that’s understandable for everyone (can be good at explaining too) – at the same time, he may have moments where things just gets out of hand/act passively and then he’s left to deal with the consequences of things not going the way he wants it to happen/opportunities passed (Neptune aspect) which can be frustrating for the Aries to have to face (often maybe an opportunity to make it into a reality – Capricorn Neptune)  
Venus and Mars square to Pluto (conjunct to each other) can point to a powerful personality, can sometimes exemplifies his Aquarian nature/trait (especially with the earlier Mercury/Uranus aspect) — again, Saturnian/Uranus nature as well. 
Powerful devotion and standing power (disciplined) but at the same time they can be nit-picky, critical, moody/brooding or feels a strong need to get affirmation/confirmation that they are on the same page as the other person. If there’s a lack of movement, they may often feel the effect of this Pluto even strongly– making them doubt, get suspicious or become critical of something/someone or even themselves sometimes. 
Powerful with that Venus/Mars conjunction – but at the same time, when it’s aspecting Pluto in Scorpio (domicile) the Aquarius nature may often overthink/obsess over the value/validity of certain things without getting enough reasoning/affirmation to verify/sustain it’s own over-working mind.
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Alrighty I think that’s it, another thing about Aries is that they often have ‘powerful’ image or like– stand out for their eyes/eyebrows whilst Aquarius also makes them semi-aware of how they look/pose or making them look better when it’s in gif/motions than they realize. 
Anyways, this is xiumin overview! I hope u enjoy it! I added the aspects as well even though I don’t usually do that for overviews but– yeah I hope you like!
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