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shall-we-die · 5 months

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Would they be easy to forgive their s/o? How are they fighting?

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↬|Dazai|

Dazai would be pretty easy to forgive his s/o. The only thing he really hates is being lied to. He would be pretty calm in a fight, but when he's really angry he can be quite scary. Usually he doesn't hold grudges against the one he loves since he's really good at reading people's emotions but if the other one betrays his trust, he might not show it immediately but when the opportunity arises... It won't be pretty.

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↬|Chuuya|

Chuuya is actually a very forgiving person, when his s/o has made a mistake or has hurt him, he can get hurt or annoyed but after a while he forgives them because he knows they had no bad intentions. His discussions with s/o usually start when he is annoyed by something, but he will always listen and try to solve the problem in a peaceful way, as he's not fond of fighting or arguments.

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↬|Atsushi|

Atsushi would generally be easy to forgive his significant other if they have done something wrong but they would still have work to gain back his trust. The way they argue will vary, sometimes they will have constructive and calm arguments and other times, they will have loud and passionate arguments. Regardless of whichever arguing style they choose to use, they will work hard to settle their differences with their significant other whether it be through talking it out or going out to get their favorite food.

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↬|Akutagawa|

Akutagawa is the type of person who tends to keep to himself and hold on to things. So, he may not be the easiest person to forgive and might need some time to cool off before he can move past whatever the argument was. Akutagawa tends to be more of the silent, passive-aggressive type during arguments. He's likely to bottle up his emotions and retreat rather than express them openly. When he and his partner do argue, they may end up talking past each other and not really listening to what the other person is saying. This can lead to a lot of miscommunication and frustration.

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↬|Tetchou|

Tetchou is generally quite easy to forgive. He is quite understanding of the feelings and actions of his significant other, and tends to see their side of the argument. If they had a fight, it often doesn't take long for him to forgive them, or even apologize himself. He doesn't like staying mad for long, and will do whatever it takes to reconcile with his significant other. However, if the argument is serious, and a line has been crossed that cannot be forgiven, he can be quite strict and harsh in his judgment.

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↬|Jouno|

Saigiku Jouno is always easy to forgive. When his beloved messes up, he will give his significant other another chance, but only after they have apologized and made it up to him. He will let the other person speak at first before he finally speaks. He will explain with facts why he is disappointed or angry, but always with respect and consideration, making sure to not hurt their feelings. If it is something small, Jouno just laughs, forgives, and gives a sweet kiss. In some instances, he himself can be the first to make a mistake and admit his own shortcomings.

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↬|Fyodor|

Fyodor is quite a patient person with a lot of understanding towards his s/o. Although he is not someone who forgives sins easily, he might become merciful depending on the situation. He doesn't like arguing with s/o, as he doesn't want to upset them, but if he needs to, he won't back out. If the conflict is about something important to them he won't stay quiet and will try to prove his point as much as he can.

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Nikolai would be relatively easy to forgive his S/O. While he may feel resentful towards their actions, he would likely eventually make amends with them and move on. When he and his S/O get into an argument, Nikolai would try to express his feelings and opinions in a respectful and tactful manner. If he feels strongly about something, he may become agitated and speak more harshly, but he will always try to resolve their dispute peacefully and avoid hurting their feelings.

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Sigma believes in the idea that everyone deserves a second chance. However, he is not a pushover and won't let his s/o get away with hurting his feelings or taking him for granted. When they fight, Sigma is the type to confront the issue head-on and speak his mind, while also hearing out the other person. They may not always agree and sometimes their fights can get heated, but he values open communication and doesn't try to bury things under the rug. He is always glad to make up when the fight is over and the relationship can move forward with a greater understanding between the two of them.

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zippitty · 1 year

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mp100 finale spoilers

It really got me how “Shigeo” was all “Reigen has never given a fuck about me so I don’t give a fuck about him” but it’s the fact that Reigen proves that he cares and is willing to kill himself trying to own up to his lies and tell the truth that finally gets the halves of Mob to reconcile because that last piece of emotional dissonance (believing in his master being a good person and giving him good advice and confidence vs doubting his motives and if he’s ever told the truth or is going to) surrounding one of the biggest pillars of his life was finally resolved. This normal ass man owning up to his normal ass mistakes is what gets the boy with the power of a god to accept the part of himself he’s scared of. (And for Reigen, the god-boy who he’s been abusing the trust of accepts HIM for all his good and bad parts.)

Shigeo was really so sure that going full throttle in the other direction (leaning into his powers and doing whatever he wants with them, rejecting Reigen’s core advice) was the right way forward for “them” but it’s Reigen who gets him to realize he was wrong. Because even that part of Mob wanted Reigen to truly believe in him and care for him and accept him for all he is. And when Reigen is fully honest, he can finally believe him. To Shigeo, Reigen has only ever been telling Mob to ignore that part of himself unless it was for Reigen’s own gain. But then Reigen does something truly selfless and tells him “it’s okay, you’re ready, you can do this, you don’t need me anymore, you’re your own person and always have been” and that’s what brings Mob back and gets Shigeo to let go.

Reigen’s last bit of selfishness is that although he’s ashamed of his lies he’s thankful they brought Mob into his life, not for the financial gain but for all the good and all the other people he’s brought into Reigen’s life. That he values Mob for who he is and not just what he can do, and that Mob should value that too.

We joke about this grown man being besties with a middle schooler but the whole show has been centered around their friendship that’s sometimes difficult, always weird, and incredibly important to both of them.

Back at the end of the separation arc, Mob gave Reigen an out when he tried to confess. Mob recognized that Reigen was already beaten and bruised and forced to his lowest and that wasn’t the right time to acknowledge it, it wouldn’t have done anything for either of them. But Shigeo forced Reigen’s hand, made him confront everything he’s done wrong or overlooked when it came to Mob - and Reigen didn’t turn tail and run (“It’s okay to run away when things go south” anyone?), didn’t try to blow it off, didn’t back down from his earnest desire to help Mob even when there’s nothing in it for him but danger and pain. He loves that kid and he needs Mob to know it.

Then at the end of it, Mob was able to safely let out his emotions for the first time in a long, long while - and he trusted that with Reigen. Because he finally felt safe and whole and fully his own person - someone that all the people in his life would accept, starting with the first person that gave him hope after that traumatizing incident.

As Mob said in the fan book - Shishou will always be Shishou.

#mp100 #mp100 spoilers #mp100 season 3 #welcome to emotional rambling hours #talk tag #idk how coherent this is #I really want to rewatch the episode

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kess-in-the-perthchimzone · 7 months

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Kang’s gradual and complete breakdown

On rewatch, we were given a significant number of clues as to how bad Kang’s mental state is going into his conversation with Grandma Ging:

First, he stops and looks in on his dad. It’s easy to imagine that Kang is remembering how excited he’d been at the newfound hope that they might be able to repair their relationship, but that now seeing him on life support, Kang’s wondering if he’ll ever get to talk to him again.

Then, Grandma Ging tells us two pieces of what I think are critical information — Kang was supposed to stay in the house but he left in the middle of the night.

The last time this happened, when she was in the hospital and the dad stayed, we know it was only Kang and Sailom in the house. So now, we can infer Kang would have been all alone with all those big, dark, empty rooms. He would have had nothing to think about but his dad is possibly dying and how he pushed Sailom away. He would have been helpless but to remember how Sailom was with him the last time — how back then they were on the cusp of becoming boyfriends.

Then, Kang asks this. He outright tells us he couldn’t sleep and he needed comfort.

We know Kang has trouble sleeping when he’s anxious.

It’s not hard to imagine that he’s been like this every night since Sailom packed his things.

@criticallyobs speculates in their reaction episode that “hug you to sleep” might have been something Kang did with his mom.

He’s also asked that of Sailom, on a night before important exams. (I’m not crying at the idea that Sailom has taken on a role Kang’s mom used to play!! My screen just suddenly got blurry!!)

So before she ever brings up Saifah, we know (1) Kang probably hasn’t slept in days, (2) Kang is anxious, (3) Kang has been drowning in worry for his dad and thoughts of Sailom.

Well, then immediately after he came to her for comfort, she asks him about the subject that’s been torturing him. And look at him — he looks sick at the idea.

He is a relatively simple thinker so he asks this. In his mind, why would Saifah confess if he were innocent? This is a great example of a situation where he would normally lean on Sailom to help tease out a complex topic but can’t anymore.

And then, it gets even worse. Because if he didn’t want to talk about Saifah when he walked into the room, do you know who he really didn’t want to talk about? Saifah’s brother.

Grandma Ging is telling him here, Saifah would not have done this because not being in our home badly hurts Sailom. Someone who loves Sailom would not want to see him hurt.

I feel like any time I defend Kang I need to put these screenshots in, because not doing so would seem like trying to hide these words. Which again, are terrible.

But I said before, in ‘In Defense of Kang’ that what Kang is actually doing here is (obnoxiously) trying to justify his own actions to himself. He’s leaning on words he’s probably heard from his dad. He CANNOT have been wrong about Saifah. That is impossible to think about, because then it means that he threw the person he loved into a “difficult situation” for absolutely no reason (leaving aside the fact that he handled the situation badly even if Saifah were guilty). Grandma Ging has just point blank told him, if you love someone you wouldn’t do something like this.

This is Kang’s face immediately after he gives that little speech. He doesn’t believe his own words. He very clearly feels worse than he did before he walked into the room.

He already knew on some level that he made a mistake in sending Sailom away the night Sailom first left.

But this is when the full magnitude of his actions start to hit him.

Kang had already been grappling with the knowledge that he’d badly wronged Sailom when Sailom called him. He got to experience exactly one second of hope that Sailom wanted to reconcile, only for it to turn into a waking nightmare. This initial anger is his fear and self loathing bursting out.

((I do want to caveat before I continue that I do not believe it is entirely Kang’s fault that Sailom turned to escorting. Sailom turned down a genuine offer of help from his friends.

But Kang’s actions indisputably played a role. And he was forced to see in horrifying detail the consequences of him depriving Sailom of his support.))

Seeing Sailom scared and groggy and confused, shirt still hanging open from his near assault showed Kang in painful detail exactly how badly he failed to take care of the person he loves. In the face of this, anger so so quickly gives way to overwhelming regret.

Kang’s breakdown here is the final escalation of how he’s already been feeling since the moment Sailom walked out of his house. The escort scene gave the final blow necessary for Kang to shatter. It ensured Kang will never ever forget the importance of his role as a protector.

However, Kang had already been well on his way here for days.

(Find Sailom’s version here)

#dangerous romance #dangerous romance the series #kanghansailom #kess babbles about dangerous romance #kanghan kirttin sukprasert

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blakeswritingimagines · 6 months

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Lovefool

A/N: Part 2 of Only Love Can Hurt Like This

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The next few months after Trevor's confession was a blur to you. You did your best to cope and accept the fact that he had fallen for another girl, but it was not easy for you to move on. You kept asking yourself what went wrong and where did your love go. The feeling of betrayal was always with you, lingering in your mind constantly. But despite everything that happened, you still had to continue your life, having to maintain appearances in front of the people who cared or knew what happened. Eventually, you had to learn to live with the pain of losing Trevor to another woman. As time went on, you did your best to move on and accept the new reality. You put on a brave face in front of everyone, but inside, your heart was still broken. You missed him dearly, Trevor, and you normally would have done anything to have your love back. But those were wishes that you figured would never come true. Your life continued forward, and you eventually found peace and happiness again. But a part of you will always wonder what could have been if things had turned out differently between you two. Even though the passage of time has made the pain easier to digest, there was a constant hole in Trevor's heart as his thoughts often wandered back to the time he spent with you. The memories together often filled his mind, the fun times and the happy moments together always seeming so vivid and alive. He often found himself missing your touch and the way you both used to laugh together, the sweet way you kissed his cheeks, and the love in your eyes. He often thought about how different life could have been had you decided to give him another chance, to forgive him for his ignorance, his mistake.

No longer able to help himself from wanting to call or see you and finally just started making his way to your place. The thought of trying to reconcile with you after everything that had happened felt daunting, but he couldn't help but wonder if there was a chance to fix the relationship. Would you be willing to talk to him and give him a second chance? So, he decided to take the initiative and went to talk to you. When he got to the front door and knocked, he nervously waited for a response. Whether it would be your voice or someone else's, it was hard to tell, but deep down he hoped it was you. You slowly open the door and see Trevor standing right there in front of you, all anxious and nervous. The sight of him immediately made your heart beat faster, your mind filled with a million thoughts, all of them conflicting with each other. The thought of forgiving him and giving him a second chance filled your heart with hope and doubt at the same time. You still loved him even when he hurt you the most, and you hated that part of you. All the conflicting thoughts in your head slowly cleared as you finally decided to do what your heart had been telling you to. Your expression is of surprise as you see him in front of you. "Trevor? What are you doing here?" For a moment, you couldn't believe your eyes, wondering if this was just a dream. Did he really come back to you to talk?

His heart skips a beat when he sees you open the door. He knew that this moment would come with a variety of emotions, and as he saw the look on your face, he could only hope that you still felt the same. He was relieved that you were willing to see him and talk things out with him hopefully, even if he didn't know what the outcome would be. "Can we talk for a second? I need to tell you something. It's important." His voice was shaky, but he needed to say what he needed to say and hope for the best. His heart pounded quickly as he noticed the way you looked at him, a mixture of surprise and relief washed over his face. "It's really me. I'm here to talk to you. Please… Can we talk?" He nervously stepped forward into your space, taking in his surroundings and looking at you expectantly. "Please… Can you give me a chance… Can we try again? I know I've made some mistakes, but it's been eating me up inside and I had to come to talk to you." Your surprise and relief quickly turned into anger when you realized that he was there to ask for a second chance. How could you forgive a traitor like him? But there is still a part of you that loves him even if he has hurt you. “You think talking will solve everything? The word “mistake” is not enough. If you still care about me and our love for each other, why did you hurt me and choose Melissa over me??? You knew that this would hurt me, but you still did it anyway. I was a fool to fall for your sweet talk and empty promise to me.”

He looked at you with sadness and regret as you spoke, and he realized that it would not be easy to fix everything between you two. He understood your anger, and he was ready to face any consequences as a result of his actions. "You're right. Words are not enough, and I knew that hurting you would cause irreparable damage to our relationship. But I'm here now not to make excuses, but to do something about it. I want to fix things between us. Can I please ask for a second chance?" He asked tentatively, hoping that you would give him a chance. He looked at you meeting your eyes with sadness and regret as he saw your emotions play across your face. He knew that it would be a difficult process to rebuild your relationship, but he refused to give up on you two just yet. "Please hear me out. I never meant to hurt you, and I certainly did not choose Melissa over you. My feelings for you are real, just like my love. Please understand that my feelings for Melissa did not invalidate the love that I have for you in any way. I am so sorry that this hurt you, but I have to be honest with you." As his words pierce your heart, you realize how much he has changed from the guy that you have spent most of your life with. Your voice was trembling wildly each time you tried to speak, trying to control your calm in front of him. But it hurts so much to see the person that you loved having feelings for another girl and he did not even care about your feelings at the moment. You looked at him, the face with sadness and anger as he spoke to you, wanting you to listen and give him a chance to fix everything.

"You never meant to hurt me?" Your eyes widened from shock as you heard those words from Trevor, but realized that this must be a joke, right? He really did have the nerve to ask you for a second chance… but there is a part of you that really does care and love him. You slowly stepped towards him, but your face was full of anger and distrust toward him, especially with what seemed to be Melissa in the picture. "Fine… But only this once. Now, tell me. What do you want to say?" You look at him expectantly, waiting for his words and his explanation. He watched you as you slowly stepped towards him, your anger, distrust, and doubts about him still lingering in your mind. But a small part of you, your heart, still wanted to give him a second chance to make this work. "You have no idea how much I want to fix all this mess. I know that my words mean nothing right now, after what I did to you, but please give me another chance. I will prove to you that I still care and love you and that I want to make this work. I will do everything in my power to make it up to you." As he looked at you standing in front of him with all those emotions and anger boiling inside you, he realized that he had an opportunity to fix the relationship, but he knew that he would have to do what he could to convince you that his love for you was true and that his mistake was real as well. "Everything I told you is true. I love you, and I only wanted to be with you. I also wanted to be with Melissa, that is not gonna lie to you, but that does not change the fact that I am deeply in love with you."

"But what if you change your mind again? What if you leave me for Melissa next time?" You said, as more tears rolled down your cheeks, but deep down you wished to believe Trevor. You wanted to believe in his love. Please. Please let this chance you have can be the last one to fix everything between you both as you thought to yourself. "But how can you love two people at the same time? It doesn't make sense. And please don't tell me you have a crush on her… Did you have a crush on her? Why am I even asking these stupid questions…" You close your eyes and take a deep breath, listening intently to his explanation. You believe that this conversation has gotten this far because you still love him… "So if I decided to give you another chance to redeem yourself. It will not be easy, but the fact that you want me to give us another chance shows me you love me. Just to be clear before I give you another chance… You still love me more than Melissa though, right?" You looked at him with a serious look, wanting him to answer honestly.

"Baby, even if you gave me a hundred chances, I would still choose you over Melissa every single time. Melissa was just a crush, that is all. The idea of being with her never compares to being with you. When I am with you, there is no one who can ever replace you in my heart. It was a mistake of mine to confess my feelings to Melissa, one I will not make again, but in order for you to fully trust me, I need to be honest about how I feel. And how I feel is that my heart only and fully belongs to you." He gently cupped your face enjoying being so close to you again "If I had to choose between Melissa or you, there is no question in my mind that I would choose you right away. You are my world, and there is no one else that could ever surpass my love for you. We have been through so much together, and I want to make things work between us." He looked at you and slowly took one step closer to you. "Please give me another chance. I don't want to lose you to my mistake."

You were torn apart when you felt him holding you and talking sweet words. You were afraid that this would hurt you more than before, but there was a small part of you that wanted to trust Trevor again. You hated this feeling, but now you were stuck in this never-ending confusion and conflict. Your heart wanted to be with Trevor again, while your head told you to stay away as far as possible or else it would lead to more pain and suffering. After a brief pause, you gently removed his hand that cupped your face and looked at him with a frown. "Oh, really!? How do you even know you won't have another crush on any other girl… What if in the future, you suddenly confessed your feelings to another woman? How do you know for certain that your heart will always belong to me?" You slowly closed your eyes, remembering the time when you were happily together. But, with everything with Melissa, your heart feels uneasy right now if you should fully trust him or not. Yet, you can't deny that you love him dearly. All these things are too much for you to bear.

"Baby, I promise you that I am not going to fall in love with anyone else but you. You are the love of my life, and I am not willing to throw that away for some crush that will pass and fade with time. It is you that my heart belongs to, my love. So please, give me a second chance." He took your hand, hoping that with one more chance, you would be able to reconcile and find happiness together again. He could see the pain and doubt in your eyes, as he tried to hold back his tears in this moment. He knew that you were trying your best to believe what he was saying, but your heart was fighting hard to resist the urge to trust him. He slowly took one more step closer to you to reach up and hold your face with both of his hands, trying desperately to prove to you that he meant every word he said. "Please believe me when I say that I will never have another crush on anyone else but you. There's only you that I want right now." You felt his warmth as he cupped your face with his hands. It was comforting. You can feel your heart softening toward him, but the fear and doubt still linger in the back of your mind. You felt his words hit your heart and you find yourself struggling to fight your true feelings toward him. But deep inside, a part of you wanted him to keep those words and mean them. You finally found yourself to open your eyes and look directly at him. Maybe you can give him this chance. Maybe this time, you don't have to hold any resentment toward him.

"I-" The touch of his hand against your skin slowly melted away all your anger and doubt. You looked at him with tearful eyes, nodding slowly at this chance to start fresh with him once again. "I… I will try again with you, Trevor. I want to believe that I am the one you love, and there is no one else. Let's leave the past behind and look forward to the future." You smiled softly. "Please kiss me," you said, as you closed your eyes to feel the first kiss of a renewed relationship. He felt a rush of relief in his heart as he saw you open yourself up to him again. He knew that it would take time to rebuild the relationship and trust, but he was glad that he was given that chance once again. He leaned forward and kissed you slowly and passionately as if making up all of the time that you had been apart. At this moment, all his love for you returned to him, and the pain and heartache started to fade away slowly as he enjoyed the embrace of your touch. He saw the smile play across your face as you nodded slowly, and he let out a sigh of relief. He couldn't believe that he was able to salvage your relationship, and he felt a tinge of joy as you had the chance to move forward. And without hesitation, he brought his lips to yours again. As you both kissed, you lost yourself in the moment, feeling the butterflies in your stomach as you reconnected after so many months apart. It was a moment that he never thought would come, but he was grateful to have you back.

#trevor zegras x reader #trevor zegras blurb #trevor zegras #trevor zegras imagine #trevor zegras x y/n #anaheim ducks

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eliza1911o1 · 7 months

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So interesting that, when we have gotten communication between Ed and Stede this season (particularly in ep 4), Stede has never once brought up Chauncey. The dude not only stole Stede away from eloping with the love his life, but also died right in front of him in the same way as his brother moments after verbally abusing him

S1 was heavy with Stede’s internal thoughts and feelings, from the Badminton ghost to full childhood flashbacks; in s2, we’ve seen this shift over to Ed, such as with Hornigold and memories of his past. Since the emphasis has been on Ed’s, we have rarely been shown obvious cues to Stede’s anxieties and insecurities, though we’re well aware of them. Then, just as Stede has finally achieved everything he thought he needed to be, it all falls apart and, for the first time in quite a while, scenes of Stede as a child come back

This post reminded me that Stede has actually become more and more unhappy with himself and never reconciled with his emotions of inadequacy, no matter how happy he seemed. This is what makes Chauncey important, or, at least, his lack of mention

The Badmintons represented everything Stede was born into (particularly the insecurities his father imprinted onto him) that persuaded him into piracy. They aligned with norms, they bullied him for acting differently, and they even succeeded due to/within the limitations of norms as officers. Stede has always been told that being kind, liking nice things, enjoying intellectual activities, being adverse to violence — all that made him, him — were the wrong things for a man to be. This doesn’t change when he becomes a pirate; others still continue to point out his failings (Izzy in ep 5, Ned in ep 6, Zheng in ep 7). Stede has long internalized his strengths as his shortcomings, so while his personal methods and, truly, some luck are the real reasons things always manage to work out, he attributes his growing skill in piracy to be the true answer

Both Badminton’s die right at his feet and though Stede still takes on the responsibility and guilt, they really die due to their own carelessness. Killing Ned is done to cement his position, paralleling Nigel’s death in s1, but different in that it is an active choice. When Stede becomes a “real pirate” after killing Ned, for the first time this season (someone can correct me on this but it’s 3AM and I’m not double-checking rn) we see flashbacks, a moments of doubt and anxiety, quickly squandered because everyone likes him now, right?

Just when Stede finally manages to prove himself notorious as a worthy pirate, everything else begins to fall apart; Ed leaves, his crew almost leaves, he almost dies, yet again, and he’s back to feeling as weak as he always has. Everything, literally, blows up

Stede knows he isn’t a capable man (people always keep reminding, so it’s hard to forget), he knows he’s a failure and a mistake, he knows trying hard just brings misfortune to those around him, but he so badly wants to prove everyone otherwise and the only way he knows how to do that is by becoming something in their eyes. however, in doing so, Stede keeps surviving, untouched, while everyone continues to be put in harms way or, when it becomes too much, leaves him. Nigel and Ned dying bought respect, but Chauncey’s death reminded Stede of what he always felt like; a failure who ruins nice things. Now, at the end of the season and at his lowest, Ed has also left, so there’s no one to tell him otherwise

#ofmd #blackbonnet #blackbeard #stede bonnet #edward teach #ofmd s2 #ofmd spoilers #ofmd meta #ofmd season 2

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scattered-winter · 1 year

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Yeah, we all know why Bobby's "canonical biological" children are surely not in his firehouse lol Dad of the year.

I genuinely can't tell if you're serious or not but I've been itching to reblog a reply to the other ask so I'll just do it here (thanks for the convenience 😘)

never have I said that bobby is perfect. never have I said that he hasn't made mistakes. and yes, accidentally starting a fire that results in hundreds of deaths (including his family) is a pretty fucking huge mistake. owen certainly doesn't have that much blood on his hands. but the difference between them, the thing that makes bobby a more interesting and likeable character, is that every minute of bobby's screentime since the very first episode has been showing him trying to make amends for his mistake. he had his notebook in season 1, that he explicitly stated was the "ledger" to balance out the scales: he took 148 lives in that fire. he dedicated his life to save 148 by being a better firefighter and a better man (he started battling his addiction as well, if you remember).

owen on the other hand, has never once shown any ounce of this. he's made mistakes, both as a parent to tk and as a person. normally this wouldn't be grounds for me to hate him so much, since mistakes are what make the characters human, but the thing about owen is that there's no follow-up. there's no trying to fix his mistake or make amends. there isn't even a fucking apology. every single one of owen's mistakes are swept under the rug and treated like some Big Heroic Thing (tm) because owen can't do anything wrong and thus can't be shown apologizing for anything because he Was Never Wrong In The First Place.*

*admittedly this is more a result of the writing itself than owen's actual character, since all of lone star has this narrative of owen being The Coolest Perfectest Guy Ever. but in my eyes that makes it even worse, because there's nothing more frustrating than seeing this guy who has canonically done Some Shit receive zero accountability for it, even from characters who are the most prone to point things out/be blunt (such as judd, marjan, or paul). not only is the writing affecting owen, but it's affecting everyone else by literally making them act ooc when it comes to owen.

bobby, on the other hand. his whole arc in season 1 involves him coming to terms with his past and slowly opening up to new opportunities for love (both with the 118 family and with athena). he's struggled and fought and reconciled every step of the way to get to where he is now, and it hasn't been easy. and even now that he has the 118 and a family with athena and her kids, he's still doing everything he can to make amends for what he did to his family years ago.

the episode "may day" comes immediately to mind as one of the biggest examples of this. may is trapped inside the burning call center, and bobby is finding himself reliving the worst night of his life. (this seems to be the theme of the episode, as chim and albert went topside to vent the roof---exactly how kevin died years ago.) but bobby straps on his gear and runs in after may. he even goes so far as to shield her with his body as the roof collapses, but they both make it out safe and relatively unharmed.

in my opinion, may day was the episode where bobby finally made amends and found peace. yes, he lost his family to fire. yes, it was partially his fault. but for 5 seasons he's been scraping and fighting to make amends and "balance out the ledgers," and now he finally had, by saving may.

even more than that, the reason why I love bobby as the Firehouse Dad so much is that he's been shown to be the firehouse dad. he comforts and supports them when they need it. he teaches them how to cook (which is how he shows love imo but that's a topic for another post). he clearly cares so deeply about every single firefighter in the 118, and it's hard not to love that.

and back to owen. he has his moments (such as supporting marjan in "human resources"), but for the most part it's hard to see him really filling that role (especially when the narrative is TELLING us that he is, but not really SHOWING us). he's so self-centered and egocentric that he overlooks and sometimes even downright ignores things inside his own house, and yet the narrative still paints him as a perfect fire captain who has never made a single mistake his entire life. despite the entire show glaringly pointing to the contrary.

tldr: the reason I love bobby so much more than owen is because, while they've both made mistakes, bobby is the only one who has fought for redemption for those mistakes throughout 5 entire seasons of the show's runtime, whereas owen's mistakes are overwritten and ignored by both him and the overall writing and there's no effort from owen to apologize or try harder to fix things.

#ik anon isnt gonna care abt this because they cant read if theyre trying to defend owen in MY inbox #but i wanted to type out this rant and they gave me a perfect opportunity to do that <3 #ty for ur service o7 #i officially dub thee #rob lowe anon #also pspspspsps here's a piece of that owen rant that people were wanting #anti owen strand #bobby nash #911 abc #911 lone star #911 meta #<- i guess

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sheepydraws · 1 year

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No you don't understand what the "Are you courting me?" scene does to me. As funny as it is, as soon as Thara thinks that he thinks "If he said no, I would have embarrassed myself beyond bearing. If he said yes, I would be trapped into having to insist that he had made a terrible mistake and having to leave."

In his mind THERE IS NO RIGHT ANSWER. Of course Iana saying he's not into Thara would suck, but Thara insists that the other possible outcome is even worse because it would force Thara to straight up take himself from the building.

Even in his own head there is no safety, there is no good outcome to interacting with other people. He can't even think about a man being attracted to him without immediately moving on to the part where he has to insist that he isn't gay, he isn't into this guy, and he thinks he might have left the oven on.

And like. I get it. Obviously. You grow up knowing something is Wrong with you, but you think maybe you can make that not matter, or at least matter less when compared with all the other stuff you've done with your life and then you fall in love and it is amazing and beautiful and actively destroying your carefully built life from the word 'go' and you're thinking maybe that's not so bad until your minor affair has an actual body count.

I don't know how you recover from that. The Thara we see in Witness for the Dead certainly hasn't. He's not okay with what has happened. Until like the last thirty pages he can't even reconcile his love for a man who became a murderer. He is so deep in his hole of self-loathing and fear of his own choices and desires that he can't even think about perusing reciprocated interest.

And he says this perfectly matter of factly, as if the obvious response to an attractive man taking you to dinner for possible getting-into-your-pants reasons is that you have no idea what he's talking about and you have to go.

I'm sorry, I just have something in my eye and a brick on my heart

#witness for the dead #meta #the cemeteries of amalo #the goblin emperor #thara celehar #tge #text #mine #personal #it's the casualness of it that eats at me #thara doesn't melodramatically wail about how he doesn't deserve love #he just thinks ''I can never allow myself to get involved with another man ever again'' and ''Could you pass the breadsticks?''#in the same PARAGRAPH

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ok but the 3 heart trio + zam conversation is actually REALLY INTERESTING.

narratively, they're both in very similar positions - they've cut ties with team awesome (aka mapicc and ro) and as a result, they're now poor. but they're foils, you see! because zam is alone; he used to think everyone hated him, now he just thinks hes friendless. his friends were ro and mapicc, and hes realized they're evil and that being with them made himself evil and that he doesnt like that. so he took a stand, got his ass kicked, and left.

but 3 heart trio, on the other hand, are - as zam pointed out - the longest-lasting team of the entire season. when 3 heart trio had to chose between TA or APO, they chose team awesome partially because the APO only wanted planet. no matter what theyve done, 3HT has always prioritized keeping all three of them together. not only is it just... not in their nature to want to turn on each other, from a more cynical standpoint, it would make zero strategic sense. planet, bacon, and jaron are three of the more... uh... down bad? Broke?? players on the server and tend to be chronically low on hearts. when you're in such a difficult position, it is much easier to escape and grind for materials if you have people helping you! and that's how 3HT has always operated - it's simply a given that they'll share with one another.

when they approach zam, hes wary! when they discuss trust, hes shocked at how comfortable they are talking to him - he says they shouldnt have trusted him (but they did), he says hes killed them over and over and personally wronged them (which he did). but they still offer an allyship: more substantial than a truce, but not an acceptance into the 3HT fold, either.

zam refuses because ultimately he cannot reconcile the wrongs hes done to them & the server with the simple and honest trust they offer him freely. "I'm evil," he insists, over and over, as he's reconstructing the ground at spawn and building new earth below their feet. "I haven't changed." "We can fix him But you admit that you're evil," Planet says in turn. "That's the first step to being better." Jaron makes a quip about a 12 step program. Bacon asks for advice, and encourages Planet to write down the scraps of offhanded wisdom Zam gives by mistake. They're genuinely interested in his story; when Zam explains how he's actually doing better than he looks, Planet likens it to a breakup with a shitty partner. Yeah, Zam might look like hell right now, but he's free.

They come to Zam immediately after all having died in "space" with no hope of regearing, each down from 3 hearts to 2 (and one of Bacon's is borrowed from Spepticle). Zam is at twelve. His sword has smite on it, but even that would have easily killed any of them. And yet, and yet, and yet, they climbed the mountain anyway, and went to speak to him.

3 Heart Trio are, like Mapicc and Roshambo, a tight-knit group, one that's so deeply intertwined with each members' identity on the server this season that it'd be near impossible to break them up. Like Mapicc and Roshambo, Zam will continue to be an outsider to that. But, even in just once conversation, 3HT were able to do something for Zam that TA couldn't do: Be Normal

or maybe, in the words of planetlord, it's just that "bro is using reverse psycologhy 💀". the world may never know

#bearvocalizations #lifesteal smp #meta #im frothing at the mouth u dont understand #that conversation was so goofy but once it hit its stride it was soooo good

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jenyifer · 7 months

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Atom in the Soup.

It’s the night before only friends again and I haven’t properly talked about Atom. Yes I did talk about him in relation to Cheum and Boston’s masking but!! He is important to the BostonNickverse so I can’t ignore him. Hell I even did some soup on Daddy Dan before Atom.

Atom’s name is not a mistake he’s viewed as small and insignificant to the rest of the cast. Boston pays the most attention to him because he cares for Cheum and Atom is an extension of her. So he readily treats him like a little brother too. He must have seen hung out with Atom before. But Atom is important for telling a queer narrative and we can’t over look him because so often Bisexual eraser is a thing in media and our conversations about queer people. I personally have a love hate feeling towards him based on my own experiences.

Let me tell you a story… a lesbian story actually. I was friends with several girls who were dating men (who were terrible by the way) and one of them let’s call her Eve was always talking obsessively to me. She introduced me to my future ex gf let’s call her Lili. We started dating and immediately Eve told me “oh it’s so funny I didn’t know you liked women… I don’t like women but I’ve had a lot of dreams about Lili and you Crazy? Right?” Eve was definitely dating a man but she would tell me about how much she liked Lili all the time. I made the mistake of keeping this info to myself because I didn’t want to ruin their friendship didn’t think it was my place. When Lili and I broke up Eve immediately tried and failed hooking up with Lili. Eve told me she was still straight she just wanted to try. She always dreamed of being with her but in the moment it was too real according to her. Lili’s panicked story to me was that she rejected Eve then the girl got very drunk and she dropped her off and was going to never talk to her again. Eve told me she was 100% str8 and this helped her cement this… supposedly.

So was Atom or Eve at fault for wanting to try? No. Did they obsess for a long time about how things would go? Yes. Reality is you trying something out like that is harmful to yourself and the other person when boundaries aren’t clearly understood ahead of time. Boston made it clear so many times that this was a one and done thing that Atom could leave that Boston didn’t judge him. But reality is Atom fucked about and found out. It’s not easy discovering who you are I don’t blame Eve or Atom for trying to go to someone who they know and admire. Seems like the easy option. But it’s a story people like Lili and Boston see all the time pretty out and proud lesbian gays used for experimentation making them feel less than. It’s not flattering to find out someone you thought was a friend only thinks about your body. So push them away before they can make you feel inferior insignificant. A single Atom.

I sympathize with Atom. He has no one to talk to. He believed Boston would still be there even if things went wrong because sex is no big deal to Boston. But that wasn’t reality. Now Atom is alone and hurt. Questioning who he is and if he has done the right thing. If I have to predict what I think will happen is.

1. Atom tells Cheum after seeing Boston with her maybe trying to reconcile? Then everything blows up.

2. Atom sees Boston happy with Nick and this causes Atom to go Nuclear getting revenge. Maybe he knows Nick and thinks he’s such a loser so why can Boston accept Nick but not Atom

whatever happens I feel like we are going to get a nuclear explosion that effects Nick and Boston going to ep 12. This is likely not to be my last soup pot on this boy.

#only friends #only friends the series #ofts #only friends meta #ofts meta #only friends atom #ofts atom #only friends Boston #BostonAtom #ofts Boston #Jenny’s rambling #only friends episode 9 #ofts ep9

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c0rpseductor · 6 months

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i think the thing that really gets me about depicting emetwol as straight up abusive is that on top of often being done offensively it works against the intended message, where his death is supposed to be tragic and the end of the relationship is also a painful tragedy and the takeaway is, more or less, that it’s very sad that Circumstances prevent the couple from ever being together and that they were doomed from the start.

to me it’s like, why would i want wol to be with emet if he’s a domestic abuser? i end up actively rooting against the relationship as i read a lot of these fics because his behavior is just so egregiously repellant. im like, NO!! WOL I HOPE YOU ESCAPE THIS MAN THAT HITS YOU AND CALLS YOU STUPID!!! and then the author’s note is like “It’s really sad im so sad they can’t have 15 babies” and i have to go lay down

i think part of it has to be that they’re correctly perceiving that emet wouldn’t necessarily be a good boyfriend, but there’s a VAST GULF between flawed partner and domestic abuser. he’s closed-off and condescending and hard to talk to and sometimes outright manipulative, yes — so portray those flaws, instead of the made up one where he just strikes and attacks people that don’t behave as he’d like. that’s not true to the character and doesn’t create a believably complicated romance that we might actually root for even if it’s destructive to the characters involved. there needs to be some redeeming quality to the relationship to get people to care about it; in my opinion such egregious abuse, ESPECIALLY physical or sexual, instantly cancels all that out.

and that’s not even to say reformed abusers are an impossible narrative to touch! thancred is a really good example of this. but it’s very particular. it works for me because his abuse is emotional and comes from a lack of skill at parenting and lack of self-regulation; he doesn’t initially understand what he’s doing or have any negative intentions, but the moment he realizes where he’s gone wrong he resolves to change his behavior, make amends, and be a good parent. i liked this portrayal, i think the fact that he genuinely loves ryne and wants her to be well and simply doesn’t know how to achieve that is a really good source of friction AND makes the redemption believable. his love for ryne is a redeeming quality in and of itself because of how it transforms his behavior. it’s not a perfect portrayal of reconciliation but it’s great.

it’s just like, those all apply to that one narrative for very specific reasons. like for example it’s not that i think emotional abuse is “lesser” so much as i think that at the point where you’re striking or choking someone there’s so much intentionality behind that act that there’s no real possibility for the “i didn’t realize what i was doing was so hurtful” part of thancred’s arc to actually ring true. you can be cold by mistake, but you hit people on purpose. so in these emetwol fics there’s really nothing that i think can make up for this and there’s no way to redeem that relationship or make it worthwhile. i’m also just less inclined to want lovers to reconcile than family members. it’s not that i don’t think family cutting one another off is reasonable (i’ve cut off my own father irl and that was a good choice), but i do think having a loving family is more important than having a romantic partner, and so a healed and reconciled family is more satisfying narratively as a result. like there’s plenty of fish in the sea, girl, just go date the exarch. he makes you sammies. he would kill emet for hitting you.

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Me, having to listen to someone speak about Cinder's "unparalleled talent" in combat and how she's the best villain on the show and she deserved all of her victories and her loses were all not her fault or plot mandated: "uh huh, sure. Say, what are you smoking again?"

Me, having to listen to the same person extole Ozpin as having done nothing wrong, Pyrrha is responsible for her own death and Qrow, Ozpin, Goodwitch, and Ironwood shouldnt give it another thought, and there was no problem with how she was given her information and any knowledge gaps in what was told to her were irrelevant, she knew enough: ".........oh, you're one of those"

Me, listening to how someone describes beating Ozpin that one time is supposed to be a sign that Cinder should always be invincible, Salem gettig beat up by Hazel doesnt count because she sucks, all of the other Maidens not having Plot Armor is totally valid, saying Jaune, Ren, and Nora should have died: "whelp, time to drop this discord server"

Hoo boy, I don’t normally do deep essays about my favorite shows, but here goes…

The first and third points you make speak for themselves, anon, and I’m assuming you’re responding to people who like Cinder too much and think she’s more badass than she really is.

The second point is one that I wrestle with. After growing up and realizing how much about the world was kept from me and my peers as kids (either to protect us or to influence us), I have a pretty negative reaction towards authorities that insist on keeping major secrets from people doing the work/fighting. If I were in Jaune’s position, finding out that Pyrrha had been set up for a major risk without being given all the information, I’d probably want to beat Ozpin senseless, too.

However, I think it’s actually good writing that things go the way they did! Sure, Arkos is easily my favorite ship and my shipper brain instantly tries to find ways for things to turn out better for Pyrrha! But in service of the whole plot, it’s great drama to have a secret leader fighting for humanity who has been betrayed before and now can’t bring himself to trust anyone, creating tension after it leads to people dying. Ozpin himself has said that he made more mistakes than anyone alive, and we didn’t understand what he meant at the time, but by god we get to learn and it’s not pretty. You also see something similar with Ironwood and the Atlas military, where the authority figure decides that only they know what needs to be done, even if it leads to people being hurt, and it ultimately costs Ironwood everything (if it’s not clear, I’m not a member of the “Ironwood did nothing wrong” crowd)

It’s difficult for me to reconcile what the “correct” course of action is regarding secrets (which also makes for a much better dramatic story). Ozpin has some justification in not revealing everything to everyone because there were obviously betrayals or people who went rogue and made things worse (Lionheart and Ironwood). However, people like Jaune, Raven, and Hazel are also justified in feeling betrayed or lied to while their loved ones are being killed in a fight that they were kept from understanding.

The closest thing to a big moral statement that I can find in RWBY is that when people decide not to trust and push people away, it ends in tragedy (See: Pyrrha, Summer, Ironwood, etc). Even when it’s for the best reasons, the strongest heroes fail when they fight alone, and they succeed when they trust each other and fight together. (Plugging another of my favorite shows: “Mandalorians are stronger together.”) I’ve seen comparisons between Jaune and Hazel, where one chose to burn the world down and the other got up and kept fighting for the world to be safe, and I like the conclusion they made: the difference is that Jaune remained with his friends and trusted them while Hazel turned away from everything. I wouldn’t want to guess if there’s a planned resolution for the show, but if there is then I would think that Ozpin/Raven/other characters learning to trust again would play a big part.

Tl;dr It’s good dramatic writing for there to be a struggle between keeping things secret and trusting others, even though it led to two of my favorite ships being sunk (Arkos/Fairgame). Hopefully we see more people learning to trust each other and it saves the world.

#rwby #sturgeon asks #wall of text

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Iroh’s and Azula’s post war reconciliation.

(I newly got Photoshop and I was bored lol) First of all I have to say why I write this post, I write it because after reading some fics with a Azula and Iroh reconciliation I was deeply dissatisfied. Why was I dissatisfied ? I can tell you that, its because everything was made Azula’s fault and it was claimed that Iroh always believed she was good and she just needed to be beaten to appreciate him, and that is just false IMO. Iroh was never shown to speak positively about Azula or that he extended kindness to her, wait before you comment with “what about the doll” Iroh gifted the doll to Azula when she was 8 and it looked more to be as an offhand polite gesture to an relative he doesn’t know.

Also, Im not going to say how their relationship was during the war, there are enough blogs with excellent metas on this topic, but I want to say one thing, Iroh doesn’t know Azula, he saw her when she was 6 before the siege, then with 11 and after that with 14 and boy the reunion wasn’t good at all.

Anyways, I really can understand the appeal that Azula working at Iroh’s teashop has, also Iroh and Azula playing Pai Sho is also a cool idea and them talking about topics like the military, but if the foundation isn’t right you cant build on it. Let’s start with Iroh, what would need to happen to let them have the beginning of a good bond and have Iroh being involved in Azula’s healing. Iroh would firstly need to admit some stuff for himself, there is that Azula is a victim too, that she is a 14 year old child, that he misjudged her and that she isn’t just some obstacle that needs to be overcome.

Then he would need to make the first step towards Azula because he is the adult in this situation and he would need to make sure to Azula that he doesn’t just care now because she was beaten and “put in her place” no, he would need to probably tell her that he was wrong about her, that he made a mistake in writing her off and no saying Azula couldn’t be helped at that time is not valid, this is more from the viewer view but not Iroh’s reasoning for not reaching out. Hopefully I haven’t forgotten anything I wanted to mention.

Now too Azula, Azula would need to recognize that Iroh’s attempts at helping and atonement are sincere and are coming from compassion rather then ulterior motives and an attempt to make he a docile shell of herself. Azula would also need to recognize that maybe most of the stuff her dad told her about her uncle aren’t true or really what they seem to be on the surface. Then she would need to start to open up, what I mean is that she shouldn’t shut him down directly. They both probably would need to have a deep talk in which Azula vents off her feelings, e.g the favoritism her uncle expressed towards Zuko. You see I can only see them reconciling or dare I say become even a family if Iroh does the heavy lifting in this one. Otherwise I couldn’t see them ever reconcile, maybe become apathetic or indifferent but not close or on a regularly talking base. I also present a suggestion by the wonderful @juniperhillpatient had:

“I think post war It could start with them both wanting what’s best for the fire nation. Perhaps Azula and Zuko reconcile first. they both (Iroh and Azula) want to help Zuko improve the FN. They also both care about Zuko. That could be a start but for them to ever be close on a familial and emotional level? I think Iroh would need to acknowledge that he could’ve done more for Azula in her childhood. This is also again under the assumption we’re talking about a more mature and healed / redeemed Azula who recognizes the flaws in her upbringing. Perhaps under those circumstances they could improve their relationship.”I could see this happening some years later after the wars end. My post addresses more immediately or short time after the war has ended their possible reconciliation or rather how it could come to one. Azula and Iroh are actually rather similar IMO and I could see them connect over that. Anyway I needed to make this post and get this off my chest, because I read to many reconcile arc’s about Iroh and Azula and it always was all Azula’s fault. Anyways I would like to hear your feedback 😊. Also I would be interested in recommendations for good reconciliation fic’s between them, I personally only read one good one.

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r001100 · 1 year

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Silly little Dottolone fic ideas

(Dottore/Pantalone) idk I was really sick and am finally getting brain function back pls enjoy

Feel free to write them, please let me know if you do!!! I don't have a lot of time to write full fics atm so this is all you get! Some of them are sad, it is what it is. (This is my therapy)

Little!Pantalone (Fluff or die, de-aged pantalone, platonic!caretaker!Dottore, he might hate it but that's not for me to decide)

Pantalone goes looking for Dottore in his lab for a vial of medicine. He's colorblind and drinks the wrong color medicine. He finds himself his younger self and is going through it TM while trying to hide from his coworker, unwilling to be vulnerable. When Dottore finally finds him, he sees it as an opportunity to give him a piece of the childhood Lone never had. Bonus points if there is a time limit to stabilize his emotions or he won't be able to return to normal. Someone please write this, I need this more than I need oxygen.

And they were parents

Established relationship, they are secretly dating, nobody else knows. Dottore creates a Pantalone segment to (F the canon I just want them to raise a kid), surprises the banker with it. It doesn't go as well as Dottore expected. Pantalone has a whole breakdown about the way Dottore could perceive him knowing his segment is an exact snapshot of him earlier in his life. Dottore thinks he made a mistake and almost eliminates the segment, but they reconcile last minute.

Undercover/Under covers

Mutual pining, but they are idiots, going undercover on a mission in Liyue. Lone shows Dottore around places pretending he had fond memories of them. The mask eventually comes off when someone recognizes him as the boy he once was. Dottore secretly takes care of it. Even better if they share a bed, pretending they are bothered by it, but end up sleeping together (winkwink) instead of sleeping together.

Broken glasses

Regrator drops his glasses and instead of fixing them, Dottore uses it as a chance to give his love interest a forced break from work. He really cares, I promise!!! He even intercepts deliveries to make sure he can dote over Lone, feed him, pretend he doesn't understand how to balance a ledger, so they won't be done for now, help him get dressed and guide him around with an arm around him. (Lone is touch starved so this is a great experience, even if he would never admit it)

#dottolone #doing my part #pantalone #dottore #pantalone/dottore #genshin #genshin fanfic #pls be kind I'm still brain foggy #might add onto this later #fanfic prompts #dottolone hcs #dottolone headcannons #dottolone fanfic #pls someone write these I want to read but I don't even have time to bathe #capitalism took my writing time but the capitalist hot guy provides the serotonin #i love them

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As much as I enjoyed Owen's comedic bits in 4x4 I'm thoroughly annoyed that it's given the fandom writers more of an excuse to write Owen as a bad parent.

It's interesting to me how the fandom views the Reyes parents (particularly Andrea) as being perfect and loving when they barely even knew their son for about a decade.

So, I get questions about the way the fandom treats/regards Owen vs. the Reyes’ really often. Honestly probably once a week. And I always just delete them, because when I tried to answer this question a few month or so ago I did it in a way that didn’t explain what I meant well and was reductive and overstepped the bounds of points that are okay for me to make and ended up hurting people that I cared about. And the most important thing to me is to not do that again, which means I've thought a lot about it and still don't have a definitive answer, because there is nuance in it and because everyone thinks and feels differently about these things and it's not for me to tell anyone how to feel.

I think that Owen is The main character of the show, and the Reyes’ are occasional guest stars, and it makes more sense to have issues with a main character because we know them more. We know one thing the Reyes' did wrong, but we know multiple things Owen has done wrong. I think that Owen-hating has sort of become what the cool kids are doing, especially on twitter. I had let fandom convince me he sucked until I started rewatching recently and realized I actually like him (none of us are immune to the hive mind, especially when we're trying to fit in with people we think are popular in fandom). I think that while the Reyes’ made a pretty big mistake and caused Carlos a lot of hurt, they have been shown to be actively trying to make it better and make up for it, while Owen (in some people's minds) seems to just mess up over and over again and isn't always very apologetic about it. I think a lot of people are, rightfully, mindful in the way that they talk about characters of colour. I think fandoms that are primarily dominated by women tend to deify mother characters, this happens with Gwyn too. I think that since season 2 it’s obvious that Carlos loves them so much so lots of people are just so happy for him that he has a better relationship with them now, and are willing to infer that they did a lot of healing and reconciling off-screen. I think honestly that there are a lot of people who just like Andrea and don't like Owen just because that's how they feel, and it's not any deeper than that. Tldr, it's not really a question I can answer because I can't speak for anyone else. I think it’s a complex thing that is different for everyone so I don’t have a magic answer that will explain it fandom-wide.

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shikai-the-storyteller · 1 year

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KARMALAND LIVEBLOG (from earlier today because I was at work)

I’m sure absolutely nothing will go wrong and I’m sure Luzu and Quackity will have a nice conversation and everything will be ok! :’) [lying to myself]

Can’t believe I typed this all up at work.

AAAAAA IM AT WORK RN BUT IM STILL LISTENING its snowing so much and I’m the ONLY person who came to the office today so frick it, I'm listening and working.

Alex Quackity please share the name of the music you use for your intros ITS SO GOOD

Aww cute art on the Karmaland page

Ah yes. The daughter he "kidnapped"

Their first meeting since the elections… I'm hoping they can somehow reconcile but, because of the way the story is going, I don't think they can. Not right now

Worse case scenario, Luzu finds out Quackity was responsible for his daughter's death and kills Beni and/or Cochi, thus making it impossible for him and Quackity to ever repair the bond they once shared

Luzu: Maybe we can talk. Maybe Quackity will listen, and he'll be able to see I'm no monster :(((( Luzu…. King you've done some Real Fricked Up stuff recently but I still love you

Luzu: This will be the moment everything changes IT SURE FRICKIN WILL BE

Something about Luzu talking about Karmaland blooming is so….hmm. I'll revisit that line at a later time

U know it's bad when frickin Rubegetta Updates tweets this, BRUH 😭

Pft Luzu's men coming to pick up Quackity, SURELY THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS BOYS

Oh man Luzu got a message from Quackity asking him to reflect on everything he's done before they speak. It sounds like they're both willing to talk, but their different ideals and views of what's "just" will ultimately make it impossible for them to end up on the same page

Quackity: Luzu has several options today, and the peaceful option is not among them.

Chat: kiss Luzu Quackity: No, it's too late for that. Look at all the memories we made here together, but, well… it is what it is o(-(

WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY

Uh oh did Luzu's assistant just snitch. Does Luzu know the truth about his daughter

Dono: I just wanted to say these lore streams have me go to the psycologist :'( Quackity: No way, it's not that bad. If I told a psychologist minecraft pixel cubes were making me cry, they’d probably charge me triple because of it PFTTTT

Oh man Luzu found out about Juan yikes

Luzu: Oh no…what will I tell his wife? Can't believe Juan was the only straight man in Karmaland /j

Luzu's so deeply in character meanwhile Quackity is like “HURRY THE FRICK UP OLD MAN”

Luzu: I made a mistake trying to pressure him. Every time I try to make him talk to me, it's like I'm pushing his crazyness further. He never reacts the way I want to, I don't know what to do. Maybe everything is truly lost and there's nothing to do. YES GOOD. CONTINUE THAT

agh but what if Luzu apologizes and then Quackity has to admit he doesn't have the kids and that's the final breaking point for Luzu's sanity

Luzu: This isn't the time to step back or say sorry. It's time to move forward. I'm not weak. I'm able to do what's needed. I'm ready to. NOOOO

Luzu: No time for nerves. If he touches my kids, I'll kill him And if you touch his cousins, he'll kill you

Agh this is so sad because they were THEIR kids

Luzu: He thinks he can do whatever with no consequences. He thinks I won't retaliate because he's Quackity. He thinks I won't use the power I have. We'll see how further you'll push me, we'll see. FRICK!!!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE POWER OF LOVE

Wait Quackity only has 5 minutes left on Karmaland? Is he gonna get yeeted in the middle of lore?? LMFAO

Oh no. They're together.

Quackity: This wouldn't have happened if you hadn't arranged the elections. He’s absolutely right!

Quackity: You never took the time to talk to me, you don’t know the true me. The truth is, I am a very vengeful person. OHHHHH SNAP HERE IT COMES

Luzu: No no, this wouldn't have happened if you had talk to me from the very start. AghhhhHHH

FRICK

NOO DONT PULL GUNS OUT

Did they just frickin shoot at each other??? oh my gosh

this is so tense but the fanart is gonna be frickin sick I just know it

Agh they threw Quackity a photo of Cochi and Beni noooo

Luzu: Realease my kids and I will release your cousins, but the way things are going, only one of us is getting out of this alive. There won’t be a happy ending. Quackity: You think I don't know that?

EVEN THEY KNOW…CHARACTERS WHO KNOW THEY’RE DOOMED BY THE NARRATIVE… IM IN FRICKIN AGONY

Quackity: Your problem is you don't know me. I'm vengeful, and those who wrong me I’ll repay tenfold. Oh man I don’t know if it was intentional, but that’s a total callback to Techno’s quote. Man... I like to think in some universe, c!Quackity and c!Techno were able to make amends. But even so, that’s a sick line, I want to draw something for that.

Luzu: Quackity, you think you’re fighting an equal, but in actuality, you’re fighting the biggest mountain you'll ever encounter Quackity: *snorts* They’re both such bastard

I've thought it before but “Who Wants To Live Forever?” by Queen really is the perfect song for Karmaland

He's only giving Quackity 5 minutes what the FRICK is Quackity gonna do

Luzu: He forced my hand. If he did something to my kids... talking ends here. No more dialogue. Now's the waiting game.

LMFAO QUACKITY DIED

LUZU'S ROASTING HIM IN CHARACTER FOR IT

Quackity said he'd leave the kids at Sapo Peta's house nooooo

Quackity: I want to see blood

Beanieduo updates tweeting "well at least they haven't killed each other yet" PFTTT

Oh my gosh Luzu actually released his cousins

Oh frick is Quackity threatening Luzu by saying he can only get one kid back QUACKITY… NOT A GOOD TIME

Luzu: you talk too much. F**k off and talk to someone over discord, zorra WTF LUZU That caught me so off-guard I gasped at it

Quackity: Watch how you talk to me. YEAH YOU TELL HIM QUACKITY!!!!

I genuinely thought someone was gonna shoot one of the cousins while they were on the bridge

AWH…COCHI'S CRYING

I imagine Cochi's the type of guy who tries to act so tough but the moment he's out of danger he's in tears. Big mood. Eldest sibling vibe

Quackity: Sooner or later, Luzu will realize his kids are never coming back. I need you both to be safe because I might not make it out alive. Put on the hat, and take your guns. Tomorrow there is a sport event, if you don't see me go talk to Rubius and Alex and make outrage and kill him if I can't today. Now go, into the tunnels... I love you both. Oh I am INSTANTLY in tears. Both as a Quackity fan and as someone who’s ride or die for my cousins, this hit close to home

Beni hesitating to leave :(((((

Luzu knows somethings up oh noooo

HE KNOWSSSS

THEYRE GONNA HURT EACH OTHER NO!!!!!

Luzu: I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS. I- I MADE A HUGE ATTEMPT TO TRY AND FIX THINGS WITH YOU, BUT THAT'S HOW YOU WANT IT? GOOD, LET'S HAVE IT. Gosh I can’t wait to watch Luzu’s POV of this, I only saw the updates about his perspective but I saw the screenshots and they are SCARY

Quackity: THEN LET'S HAVE IT, GO ON WITH THE BEST YOU CAN, PENDEJO

Karmaland Updates: Tomorrow is the Karmaland Olympics! :D NOWS NOT THE TIME KARMALAND UPDATES

AAAA QUACKITY NO

Is Quackity going to die??? He's alone and Luzu has his men with him D:

And Quackity told his cousins to tell Alexby and Rubius to launch an attack on Luzu tomorrow AND he told them he loved them IS HE REALLY GONNA DIE???

oh man did he actually get away?

Quackity: Either kill yourself or I'll do it for you

THAT STUPID MOB SCARED ME WHAT WAS THAT

Luzu: The next time we see each other will be the last time And he's probably right… :(

QUACKITY A HOUSE IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS

Oh I forgot Rubius gave him that horn, can he call him for help, or at least let Rubius will know he's in danger??

Quackity: This was given to me by Rubius. If I use it, he'll know I'm in danger 😭😭😭

I love the mutual respect and friendship they've developed, I love Luzu but I also wanna see Rubius go feral protecting someone he cares about because they got hurt. Big brother bear vibes. It's just a shame he WONT FRICKIN DO IT FOR VEGETTA

OH FRICK THATS RIGHT IN THE UPSIDE DOWN QUACKITY SAW HIS HOUSE WAS DESTROYED was that a vision of the future????

HE JUST ENDED THERE AAAAA

That was so good but STRESSFUL

Wait Luzu is still going

Luzu: My daughter is dead because of me At least he recognizes that it's his fault they're in this situation, though tbf it IS Quackity's fault in this instance

OK but WILL VEGETTA SUPPORT LUZU??? Is anyone gonna support Luzu, or is he alone?

Luzu: Any revolutionary in the village will have their heads hung up

😰

FOR KARMALAND!!!!

Luzu's always underestimated Quackity, but Quackity just crossed a line and now Luzu will never see him the same way. Man. MANNNNNNNNN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE POWER OF LOVE HUH

AGH!!!!!!!!!

Oh gosh I just saw the update from Maxo’s (Sapo Peta’s) stream -- he still wants to shove Quackity and Luzu in a box so they can talk things out. SAPO PETA IF YOU DO THAT, THAT HORRIFYINGLY GRIM COMIC THAT PERSON SHARED YESTERDAY WILL COME TRUE

SERIOUSLY, MY MAN MISSED HIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT LIKE, WEEKS AGO

Imagine poor Sapo Peta and Illojuan still trying to do the beach bar date idea. Lord

WELP. That was an intense stream, can’t wait to see what the Karmaland Olympics are and how Rubius / Alexby will react to today’s news. I’m also curious to see whether Vegetta will continue to stand by Luzu, or if Rubius will somehow convince him to, at the very least, stay away for his own safety.

In conclusion:

Luzu and Quackity I’ll be sending you my therapy bill

#i talk #karmaland talk #[SKULL EMOJI]

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