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Jaune: Ugh...
White Fang: He's coming to.
Jaune: What... What do you want?
White Fang: Silence, human! We will ask the questions here!
Jaune: Okay...
White Fang: Where is your team? When is your extraction?
Jaune: ...I'll answer you if you answer one question for me.
White Fang: Fine, human scum. I'll humor you. Ask your question.
Jaune: Do you know what's worse than a captured huntsman?
White Fang: Your team? What the hell kind of question is that?
Jaune: Eh, pretty close. But it's actually a person with a reason to live.
White Fang: (Feels Jaune ship breathing down his neck)
Jaune: And in case you couldn't tell, I'M their reason to live.
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I don't know what this style is anymore, let's call this one a clean sketch?? Here's a (relatively) quick redraw/reimagining of one of my first commissions. It was made for JumpinJammies, and it was her funny idea too! I'll always be grateful to her and my other friends who were willing to start paying me for my drawings... It really boosted my confidence back then <3
So I've been glancing at that drawing for a couple of years now, feeling a strong desire to draw Sienna in this silly sweater again. Which I finally did these winter holidays. And I made her stripes a bit differently, since after this drawing we learned a little more about them.
#rwby#rwby fanart#sienna khan#sienna#rwby faunus#faunus#white fang#new year#holidays#greenlightvolume10
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Do you have any thoughts on how RWBY handled the white fang storyline?
Unpopular opinion: it's decent?
Now, now, before people come at me with pitchforks: yes, it's overly simplified. The entire story is a fairy tale, though, so that's not out of place. It also complements the rest of the story thematically, and manages to incorporate nuance and complexity in despite the simplification of issues.
I think it's a mistake to look at the White Fang as a 1=1 of the real life struggles of marginalized groups. That said, there obviously are parallels, and so people aren't mistaken to note those. I just think it's not meant to be an instructional manual and shouldn't necessarily be viewed as one, but rather a conversation starter in some ways. And yes, those conversations can and should include critiques.
So I'll go over the points that I think it did well and how those ties into real life, but also specifically how they work for RWBY's overall story. This does not negate criticisms, especially those by marginalized groups.
In contrast to some other fictional depictions, RWBY actually is better as well because it avoids the number one pitfall of such issues: the X-Men fallacy. I've talked about this in terms of Attack on Titan before, but essentially it's the idea that the problem with depicting discrimination against superpowered people is that, well, there is a logical reason for people to be concerned about superpowers; hence, it almost justifies that very discrimination it seeks to condemn. This isn't present in the faunus/human divide. They are both capable of superpowers.
It also doesn't fall into another common pitfall: the idea that people have to be perfect to be victims of discrimination. The White Fang... has senselessly and cruelly murdered people; doesn't mean faunus discrimination isn't also cruel and senseless and doesn't justify it. And this is something that we do see in real life too--people trying to either completely whitewash the actions of radical anti-oppression movements, which can do awful things, or trying to use these awful things as evidence that these people deserve discrimination when really it's a result of rage and desperation at a society that refuses to give them anything. That doesn't justify the pain of the victims of the awful things (see, Weiss) but nor does it negate the righteousness of that anger.
It does portray the faunus as a fairly diverse group too, when fiction often portrays marginalized groups as a monolith. That's not true. People from one group have very different ideas about what liberation looks like, and what they want to achieve. People in marginalized groups are people, and they can be motivated by a variety of selfless principles and egotistical validation, and neither negate the other. See, Sienna vs. Ghira vs. Adam.
Now, of course within RWBY Ghira's more nonviolent principles more or less win out. That's because RWBY is again a fairy tale where you have to fight to live, but that also doesn't endorse violence. If you expected otherwise, wrong genre. Of course the real world is far more complex, but it's not as if there is no real world basis for this either. Peacemakers exist, and nonviolence has accomplished a lot before. Whether or not that's the be-all-end-all of the faunus struggle in RWBY isn't even clear, so I don't think it's intended to be the be-all-end-all preached moral as it applies to the real world either.
Story-wise, the White Fang functions as a Jungian shadow of society. If you do not take charge of your own life, you are letting others decide for you. The faunus who disagree with the White Fang take it back, because they have to acknowledge it to move forward in society. They have to integrate with it, and accept their own humanity: capable of good and what they might rather deny.
This faction--the faunus who don't like the White Fang--are represented in Ghira, who becomes passive and steps back from aspects of the movement. However, when Blake arrives in Menagerie, this changes, because Blake's entire arc is about integration. Ghira then becomes active, working for the rights of the faunus and for the White Fang to be better rather than simply disavowing the White Fang in an attempt to be a good person, because doing nothing isn't exactly good.
On a more character level, the White Fang exists for Blake's arc. Her Jungian archetype is the Shadow. Like, it's literally her semblance's name. Hence, the idea of the shadow is gonna be important. If you want more on this, @aspoonofsugar has written a meta on it here and another here.
So, for Blake, on a personal level the White Fang (especially under Adam) represents the parts of herself she doesn't like. The part that ran from her family. The part that is violent. And yet, she cannot abandon it or simply disavow it. No, the answer is instead:
We’re not going to destroy the White Fang. We’re going to take it back.
She has to integrate with it, take the good--the righteous anger, the focus on justice and equality.
The White Fang also comments on the microcosm/macrocosm of alchemy.
For the unaware, RWBY is an alchemical story, and the principles of alchemy are represented in the symbol for the philosopher's stone, as seen above. Microcosm: the smaller circle enclosing two people in the center who come together (hence chemical weddings). The square is the four elements: water, earth, fire, air. The triangle is body, heart, and mind. The larger circle is the macrocosm.
The Shadows for Blake on a personal level--microcosm--is Adam. The Shadow on a worldwide, big picture scale--the macrocosm--is the White Fang. Integrating with the shadow isn't only an individualistic endeavor, but also one that benefits society as a whole and brings life to the entire world. The main point of alchemy's philosopher's stone, which Blake, along with the rest of RWBY, are symbolically being transformed into.
I think the main issue with the White Fang, by the way, is its handling of Adam. Typically you don't kill the shadow, though I do think Blake kinda had no choice. Still, I don't think the show fully explored him.
Yet what does work with what we have is that Yang has to face Adam, Blake's shadow, to be with Blake. Yang losing her arm to Adam parallels her being upset about losing Blake to fear, because symbolically Blake can hurt her deeply in the way only a lover can. Blake has to stop running from her shadow and allow herself ot be known and seen by Yang to be with her.
#ask hamliet#rwby#rwby meta#blake belladonna#yang xiao long#white fang#adam taurus#bumbleby#sienna khan#ghira belladonna
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Jaune: Did you know? The average human is composed of 60% water. And did you know that if someone were to eat a spoonful of Ice dust, it would be enough to turn 87% of that water into ice?
White Fang grunt from the dock: *Crying* I already told you i know nothing! Please! Have mercy!
Jaune: ... Why is everyone reacting like that to my fun fact?
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RWBY MEMES
#rwby#yang xiao long#blake belladonna#bumbleby#rwby bumbleby#ruby rose#yang x blake#weiss schnee#blake x yang#jaune arc#little#white fang
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When in doubt doodle Ethan hawke frames from movies about friendship and freedom
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Real ones remember Perry, the random White Fang thug from Volume 2 who wore glasses on the outside of his mask. 😂👌
#rwby#rwby art#rwby fanart#dr doofenshmirtz#pnf doofenshmirtz#phineas and ferb#perry the platypus#Perry the white fang member#white fang
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Brokeback mountain au？
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Virna Lisi on the set of White Fang (1973). Photographed by Angelo Deligio.
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ok since theres So many pics of goatee ethan, i decided to take it upon myself to find as many clean shaven ethans you u can. put em in ur anderperry anything, a locket, idk what you freaks would do with em! but here ya go!
#dead poets society#dps#neil perry#anderperry#todd anderson#neil x todd#todd x neil#neil perry x todd anderson#todd anderson x neil perry#dead poets#ethan hawke#jack conroy#white fang#gattaca
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I think people don't understand that Adam is literally the worst “freedom fighter” ever made because he was not really a freedom fighter.
Adam hated Humanity. Honestly, he couldn't be blamed for that, after what was done to him; he didn't deserve to be abused, he didn't deserve to be branded, and I really hope the people who did that to him ended up as badly as Cinder's abusers—Jacques at least did—. The problem is that he joined and forcefully took over an organization that one way or another (with Sienna and Ghira, in different ways) seeked to support Faunus and help achieve equality when he didn't care about any of that.
This is the same guy who took part in the Fall of Beacon. There's a difference between attacking Jacques and the SDC and other racist pieces of shit like Sienna did and this. Think about this for a second: according to Velvet in After the Fall, despite not being perfect, Vale is probably the best kingdom for Faunus to live in—along with Vacuo, though not perfect as well—. There are many Faunus in Vale. Regular Faunus who live regular lives with regular jobs and regular families, and who also depend on the protection Beacon and the other academies provide with their Huntsmen and Huntresses, a bunch of them also Faunus. Now you tell me why the fuck would you think destroying Beacon and provoking a Grimm attack in Vale that kills hundreds of people—many of them probably Faunus—will make the situation better for your kind in any way? Because it won't, it will only make everyone in there fucking despise you and your organization, including Faunus themselves.
It's literally what Sienna told him, and he killed her because he wanted to become leader and destroy another goddamn academy and make things even worse. And then, in there, seeing himself cornered, he tried to blow up everyone in Haven—nevermind that the people opposing him were Faunus too. And then when the remaining White Fang members called him out on his bullshit, he didn't think twice about killing them all, either.
Like Blake said, he was consumed by spite. Adam had charisma to make everyone believe he could be a great leader who could get results. And maybe he could have been if he actually cared about making things better for the Faunus, but he didn't. Adam always put his hate against humans before his people's needs. He did everything he did because he wanted to fuck over humans, even if it meant fucking over his own kind and organization, too, and he had no qualms about killing Faunus if they tried to stop him from fucking everyone including them over.
That's actually the reason why I hated him—and I loved to hate him, he was a good villain—, because he claimed to be a freedom fighter when actually he couldn't give less of a fuck about his people, he just wanted his revenge. That and because he was a creep who groomed a preteen girl when he was over 18 and then proceeded to abuse her and then stalk her and try to kill her and her new love interest because he was petty she left him, of course, but that's a different thing.
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white fang
#art#canine art#canine#canines#canids#mammals#dog#dogs#wolf#wolves#wolfdog#wolfdogs#white fang#white fang jack london#jack london#xenofiction
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I saw a post earlier today that really kinda got my goat so to speak so I wanted to re-post my take without starting shit on tumblr dot com.
I categorically disagree with the idea that Adam was ever planned to be the main leader of the White Fang pre coup.
We meet Adam leading what was suppose to be a resource acquisition mission that he turned into an attempted mass murder for shits and giggles because he is a blood thirsty idiot.
Not only is that incredibly wastefully and politically stupid of him, it is also not reflective of what Blake described the White Fang's methodology as during Volumes 1. IE the methods that actually were working and were introduce by said new leader which Adam was blatantly ignoring.
It also makes clear his relationship with Blake is awful given the manipulation, the lies, the dismissal and using her as a shield, and maniacal cackling ETC.
The second time we see Adam its in volume 2 right after its revealed that a ton of Faunus died because of Cinder's plan and Mercury wonders if they will still obey. Adam arrives and promising to continue throwing his people's lives away for Cinder. Making it quite clear where Adam stands on the subject while showing the White Fang itself lacks any loyalty to Cinder.
Before V3 we have two possible mentions, one being the silhouettes in V1, one of which could be argued to represent Adam, but also contained two other people. & the masks reference which, if Adam was the leader, you'd think Blake would just say it was an idea their leader came up with. The fact she didn't should make it clear to any viewer that Adam was just popular, but not in charge.
Going into V3, we already know he's fine throwing Faunus lives away for Cinder, so anything he says when rejecting Cinder needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Yeah Adam wasn't just gonna work with some random human cos he doesn't like humans and his people are watching so his behavior is performative. Cinder leaves, then returns and makes it clear she can kill him if he doesn't obey and he instantly bows because, shock and horror the manipulative abuser is not actually all that brave when its 'his' ass on the line, setting the stage for what we already know happens by V2.
Adam was never meant to be the leader, Adam was never a genuine revolutionary, Adam was always an abusive cowardly liar and manipulator seeking power and appeasement for himself.
Losing Sienna was a tragedy and genuinely a huge mistake on the writers part and Ghira taking over again is in no way ideal, but Adam is not some tragic loss. He's one of a dime a dozen would be revolutionaries who only care about the 'revolution' for their own ends. Any passing glance at historical revolutions and rebel movements will show people like him.
One can criticize the White Fang plotline without needing to big up someone like Adam; just like one can endorse revolutionaries without advocating for war crimes. Discuss Sienna and how she could have been introduced earlier or avoid her demise. Bring up how Ilia's arc could have potentially led her to being the one leading a revitalized White Fang. Or how Blake herself could potentially have taken the reigns more overtly, as challenging as that might be to portray given the overall plot line.
There's plenty of ways to emphasize the new generation, and tackling bigotry head on without raising Adam as a viable candidate and especially without engaging in historical revisionism as to his slated role in the series proper.
#RWBY#Adam Taurus#the white fang#Sienna Khan#Sienna 'The Hero Queen' Khan#Faunus#ilia amitola#blake belladonna#White Fang
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Disney Adventures, January 1991
#Disney Adventures#movies#Bill and Ted#Garfield#Martin SHort#Batman#superhero#home video#Sylvester#Ethan Hawke#Keanu Reeves#Alex Winter#Problem Child#White Fang#cats#1991#1990s#ticket
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THIS IS ALL I EVER WANTED, BUT ROOSTERTEETH BE PLAYING.
SFM made by RaySFM.
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Random thought, but I wonder how much some people's impression of the White Fang arc being about vilifying those fighting for racial equality (rather than disagreeing with terrorism as a means for advancing such causes but sympathizing with the cause) stems from people who regarded Blake's perspective on the group—someone who disagrees with their current methods but fundamentally believes in their faith to the cause that White Fang working with Roman sets off alarms for her—less than they valued the opinion of Sun Wukong, someone who was an outsider to the group and condescendingly referred to them as a "cult" and indirectly insulted Blake for her former membership.
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