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#Nothing but reading Odyssey
spacedem0n · 7 months
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Odysseus: *Mumble* I will kill them, I will kill them, I swear to gods I want too kill them so badly...
Athena: G O T O S L E E P!
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sephospaganplace · 3 months
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Stop trying to read the Iliad and the Odyssey.
You're struggling to understand them, to focus on them, because you're going about it all wrong.
They're not books . They're epic poems.
They're oraccular tales. They're meant to be told. They're meant to be performed. They always were. Stop trying to read them.
Listen to the audiobooks instead. Find them on your local library app, listen to them while you're walking, find the cds at your local library, listen to them while you're driving, download them, shove them on your phone and listen to them in the night, staring up at the stars.
They're meant to be heard, to be experienced, not read.
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ravenofsilver · 7 months
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Sometimes I see posts wondering if Patroclus and Hyacinthus would be friends in the afterlife.
And I want to assure you that no. They would absolutely not be. Why would Patroclus and Achilles be fond of one of the best-beloved of Apollo, the god who played a most direct hand in both their deaths?
Don’t get me wrong I see the parallels. But still absolutely not.
I do think Hyacinthus chills with Adonis. In some myths, Apollo is listed as one of Adonis’ lovers. I think out of the three, Apollo would have been the one to give that mortal the most freedom, the most room to breathe.
Similarly, in his courtship of Hyacinthus, Apollo took him to new places and taught him new things.
I think if there is anyone who could really appreciate what this means, it would be the two of them. So. Adonis and Hyacinthus are friends in death. But Patroclus and Hyacinthus would absolutely throw hands because they’re both slightly unhinged and very much in love.
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yea-baiyi · 1 year
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i’m sure people smarter than me have said this, but the odyssey is the sequel to the monomyth actually. in the hero’s journey the hero departs from home, from innocence, from safety, to fulfil his destiny. in homer’s the odyssey, the war is over, the destiny fulfilled. next comes the real fight, the unwinnable fight—to return to everything you left home to fight for.
in the first half of the poem, while odysseus fights tooth and nail to return home, his home fights with its last breath to give odysseus a home to return to. and time is running out. his wife penelope is down to her last desperate excuse. suitors have invaded his home, eating through his household and his wealth. his son, telemachus, almost grown, leaves home for the first time to find out if odysseus is still alive, if there is still a reason to keep fighting. having lost everything he had, over and over, odysseus is finally allowed to arrive in his homeland. at first he doesn’t recognise it. and he is cursed to look old and decrepit, so that none of his loved ones would recognise him.
for the second half of the poem, he has returned and miraculously, he has not been displaced or forgotten. but now he has to reclaim what was his. and removing the rot, restoring this place to the home odysseus remembers, is long and painful. instead of walking through the front door, he must sneak in through the back or risk being thrown out. not a single person knows him by sight; odysseus must prove his identity over and over, to every member of his household. he must retell story after story, share secret after secret, reveal every marking or scar upon his body, to finally be recognised by his own family. and then he destroys every last trace of the intruders—kills the men, kills the servants, wipes the slate clean.
by athena’s magic, he is restored to his former youth and glory as he reunites with his wife. the families of the slain suitors try to seek revenge, but zeus, lord of the skies, intervenes. odysseus, filled with his god-given strength, is home, and ready to fight to protect it.
it’s a complete sequel to the heroes journey, but what makes it part of the monomyth is the horrible truth about odysseus’ tale: that it’s impossible. that you will leave, and your home will change in your absence, and someone might fill your place; your family won’t recognise you, your wife met someone else, intruders have destroyed your home, and you will never be as young as you were. you will return and you will fight with every ounce of your strength and it won’t be enough to turn back the clock. it’s the terrible last chapter to every hero’s story that we don’t like to talk about.
and yet, of course, it’s the same story we tell over and over: we’ve won the war, now all we want is to return home, but home is no longer somewhere we can reach.
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tondiable · 1 year
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I picked up some new books the other day. I’ve been dreaming endlessly about classics since I started reading The Secret History by Donna Tartt, which I haven’t yet finished and can already claim it as a favorite.
What are you currently reading? How do you like it so far?
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bladesofkyber · 1 year
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mimir: wait so you actually fought in the trojan war??!
kratos: yea, it didn’t happen like that tho. poem was preferable
mimir: confused silence
me, someone who has read the iliad, the odyssey & the aeneid multiple times for funsies, thinking about all the horrible shit that happens: 😳 it gets WORSE??
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lizzyb880 · 5 months
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the references to it in the PJO tags had me curious and as a first time listener EPIC: The Musical had no business going that hard woah
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blinxbat · 1 year
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Was no one going to tell me that there's a Space Odyssey book series to go along with the movies (and beyond) or is this just something you're supposed to figure out when you faun over Hal 9000?
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sheepiemc · 7 months
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what if i did neither of the two ideas i said i would do and wrote smthg for touch starved diavolo instead 🤔
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odysseys-blood · 8 months
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OH ITS HEAVENS FEEL TIME LETS GO any predictions tell me ur thoughts
honestly? not much yet bc i did stop off on day 4 bc im sleepis (owo; ) which means theres like 9 more to go but i do have a small inkling to whats probably going on
so besides everything else (considering its the same so far as the first few days of fsn) theres the intermission in the creepy worm basement and im already sure it has something to do with the matous bc of this
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bc the einzberns and tohsakas have already been discussed in fsn (and moreso in ubw) so they're the only ones that are left. the einzberns ofc went to desparate measures but all they really needed was illya to be the carrier of the grail also i dont think they'd have all this shit under a castle that's basically just temporary residence while the grail war is going on and rin doesn't even have any other family to even have any connection to a place like this considering whatever is being plotted is between at least 2 people, one of which im pretty sure is that crusty old matou grandpa (im sorry but this old dude has the most angles ive ever seen on a wrinkly old anime guy)
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back to the text from the worm hell:
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and from seeing a post that was a joke of the "mickey its riku, they put bugs in him!" but instead it was like "rin its sakura they put worms in her!" im p sure all this is just about sakura. she's the matou's greatest weapon/tool and it makes sense. shinji would never work as a tool because he's just got a godawful personality for it. a pawn maybe, but he can't really be directly utilized bc hes oh so sucky and is way too confident in himself.
sakura however is easier to use because she's used to it i feel. being seen as nothing but a tool and she can do the hard work to be a exemplary one. she can keep going with the status quo just because she feels she is meant to preserve it (as is shown with how she makes no attempt to get help for the situation with shinji, this isn't me blaming her btw that's tough and if its seen as a family thing by others and not something to meddle in then she is kind of stuck either way). if she's become the only living matou with a magic crest then it automatically becomes her job to win the grail for the matous and she has no choice but to do it. it'd also explain her urgency in trying to get shirou to stay home over the weekend because if she is to play her role then it's the one way (she thinks) that he'll be safe (but he is so bad at staying safe)
all of that though to say something is wrong with her and im so sad that its definitely not getting better any time soon
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breqvendaai · 1 year
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I swear this is like, the most non-issue of non-issues, it’s literally just a personal annoyance to me, and it means literally nothing besides the fact that it just annoys me
translator: so I’m translating this from [ancient/medieval] greek
me: uh-huh
translator: and the meter it was written in in the original greek doesn’t work well in english
me: oh no
translator: I tried a few different ways but I finally settled on a meter that I liked
me: don’t do it I swear to god
translator: so here’s my translation written in iambic pentameter :)
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murray--river · 4 months
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When Achilles replied to Agamemnon stating that if he has to give up a beautiful woman then he wants another prize instead with 'how shall the Achaeans find you another prize? We have no common store to buy one from'
I felt that
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parisbytaylorswift · 4 months
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Should this be the year I finally (re)read the Homerics?
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risestarkiss · 4 months
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Being Baby Blue
Rise Ramblings #313
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Leonardo Hamato is…an interesting individual.
As a middle child, he doesn’t have to shoulder the responsibilities of the oldest, nor is he fawned upon or babied over like the youngest. Therefore, he ends up having more of a lackadaisical approach to life.
In his free time, instead of training like Raph, Leo can normally be found reading comic books.
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And for good reason! Someone has to be up on the latest issues of Jupiter Jim and his space odysseys.
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But, other than being a Jupiter Jim superfan, who is Leonardo Hamato?
If you ask Leo, he's...*takes out a list*: “Primetime,” “First,” “The Best,” “Number One,” “The Champion,” or some other iteration of all of the above.
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...Huh. Anyways...
Of course, the first thing Leo would tell you is that he's the team's "Face Man."
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As the "Face Man," he’s the one that turns up the charm when they need to schmooze their way out of, or into, something.
He's the face of the group! It's a very important title, right?
Well, in this scene with Hueso, we learn what Leo really feels about his place on the team.
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"There's no team with just a face man." "I'm nothing without them."
Hmm. If he thinks that he is nothing without his brothers, then what's the deal with all of this "Number One" and "Champion" talk?
I believe that Leo is exhibiting a form of Reaction Formation.
Reaction Formation is a primitive defense mechanism that involves transforming one's unacceptable feelings or emotions into the opposite.
"Solicitude may be a reaction-formation against cruelty...romantic notions of chastity and purity may mask crude sexual desires, altruism may hide selfishness, and piety may conceal sinfulness."
Leo has been creating these grandiose titles and this larger-than-life persona for himself as a means to cope with his feelings of insecurity, his anxieties, and combat his self-deprecation.
Gee, forming a larger-than-life persona to counteract their suppressed feelings also reminds me of someone else we know…
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But, I digress...
Behind the fabrications, his insecurities, who he pretends to be, and who he wants to be, the real Leo is still on display, starting as early as the first episode.
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He's attentive, he understands the team's strengths and weaknesses, he assesses situations, he comes up with great plans on the fly, and he is a voice of reason.
These are all the characteristics of a great leader.
However, something happens when he’s actually appointed as such.
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There he goes again. He's cocky, arrogant, and act's as if he's unphased even by the prospect of loosing his brothers. If this is Reaction Formation, then what is he trying to mask with these behaviors?
Previously, he was masking his insecurities, his anxieties, and his self-deprecation, but with the faces he pulls when he thinks no one can see them, I want to say the newest emotion is fear.
He is terrified of being the leader and floundering under his new responsibilities. He's scared of the consequences of his actions, and what those consequences may mean for his brothers. However, instead of voicing his insecurities, or communicating with his team, he doubles down and falls back into old habits.
The "Face Man" persona is turned up to an 11, and things get worse and worse until...
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His greatest fears have been realized.
He has failed as a leader. He has failed his brothers. He has failed to stop the invasion, and they are all going to die because of his failures.
Now he's faced with the harsh reality of his own mistakes, thus he finally faces himself.
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"It's scary to be responsible for the lives you protect, your team...your family. But we do it anyway because that's what it means to be a hero."
He may be speaking to Raph, but he's talking about himself.
His words are his true feelings, the same feelings that have been holding him back this entire time. By opening up, he's able to surrender to himself and let it all go.
And it's the breakthrough we all have been waiting for.
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What Leo doesn't know is that through letting go, he's able to become the true face of the group he is destined to be.
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He's the face of hope.
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Previous | Being Big Red
Next | Being Purple ○ Part One • Being Purple ○ Part Two • Orange, Baby!
Finale | Being Hamato Yoshi
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saintkevorkian · 2 years
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Emily Wilson’s Odyssey translation, Book 1, read by E Wilson
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glitteringaglarond · 2 years
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Let me tell you, when I first watched this movie when that first arrow flew through the air and hit Boromir... my heart absolutely STOPPED.
We had just lost Gandalf, so I knew that characters could die. And now Boromir had been hit by an arrow, which meant that Merry and Pippin wouldn't have anybody to protect them anymore.
But then he kept on fighting, and I was relieved because that meant he wasn't going to die.
When that second and then third arrow hit him my heart shattered, and when when he couldn't stop them from carrying off Merry and Pippin I was convinced they were all going to die.
But then Aragorn came, and I thought for sure he would save Boromir.
And when he couldn't my heart shattered again.
So yeah if anybody would like to give Tolkien my therapy bills that would be great
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