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urgentkettle · 9 months

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The fact that TikTok is trying to make Zepotha happen like it’s the “new Goncharov” is so offensive because like, there’s already a new Goncharov. And it’s an 80s slasher film. It’s called Goncharov’s Return (or Goncharov’s Revenge in the European release). Just the height of hubris. Learn your history.

#goncharov #Goncharov’s return #Goncharov’s revenge #zepotha #educate yourself TikTok #the fact that the whole thing is a misguided marketing ploy is just bleh #gonchy 2 is the movie tumblr deserves right now

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duskandherembracex · 2 years

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My favourite genre of media is unhinged homosexuals

#be gay do crimes is the best new trope #interview with the vampire #kinporsche #Do Revenge #the picture of dorian gray #Hannibal #young royals #yr s2 #goncharov #more wlw shows like this pls #text #my p0$t #gothic lit #iwtv #vampire chronicles #the vampire lestat

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xovera-toz · 8 months

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Okay but like, what's up with the running gag of confusing french and italian in Goncharov's return?

It's not that type of movie. Who even thought of that.

I admit it was funny, and I really, really needed it at certain points, but still.

#I wouldn't have been surprised had it been a marvel movie or smth #but a slasher?#yeah no #kudos for being brave and including it tho #wait this could be my problem #does it bother anyone else or just me?#goncharov #unreality #goncharov's return #goncharov's revenge #or wtf it is #I can't keep up with the names people #tumblr #and yes this is just made in spite of:#zepotha #you guessed it

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too-cool-for-facebook · 8 months

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I'm just gonna come out and say it -

GONCHAROV'S RETURN SUCKED

It shouldn't even qualify as a sequel. With the exception of Abe Vigoda, it has none of the original cast; Zemeckis had no business trying to make a slasher film; Ice Pick Joe shouting like he's the fucking Hulk just ripped me out of a movie I was already falling asleep through; the scene with the goat was TOTALLY FUCKING UNNECESSARY; and they put the only cute character in the whole thing IN A DAMN OLIVE PRESS! 🤬

#i know I'm biased #i hate slashers to begin with #and the fact that they took an art film like Goncharov and turned it into a piece of shit cheap ass horror film just burns my biscuits!#gonchposting #goncharov #Goncharov's Revenge #Goncharov's Return #gr/r #unreality #unreality tw #commit to the bit #gaslight gatekeep goncharov #tiktok #zepotha #zapotha

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7-crows-in-a-trench-coat · 1 year

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my favorite part of goncharov (1973) is after the big fight scene inside the san marco square clock tower when goncharov and andrey stand face-to-face both splattered with blood, as this was mcr’s inspiration for their “three cheers for sweet revenge” album cover

#goncharov #goncharov 1973 #unreality #cw unreality #mcr #my chemical romance #my chem #three cheers for sweet revenge #demolition lovers

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charismaquark · 1 year

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Finally watched Goncharov (1973) and while I’m not generally into mafia movies... the Fruit Stand Scene???!!!

THIS LIVES RENT-FREE IN MY MIND NOW.

Katya gives Sofia the apple. Sofia hands Katya the pomegranate. The Eve-Persephone parallels (women whose destinies changed irrevocably after being tricked into eating a piece of fruit) are SPECIFICALLY invoked. But the real question is, which one is which?

The framing of the scene suggests that Sofia is Eve (about to lose her sense of innocence and be inducted into the knowledge of evil), and that Katya is Persephone (trapped by a marriage that binds her forever to the (criminal) underworld). Except, that also makes no sense because we don't see them eat the fruit. How could they reap the consequences for an action they didn't actually take?

I would argue that it's not about the fruits they RECEIVE... it's about the ones they OFFER. The fruits they have already eaten, and been doomed by.

Sofia doesn't need to learn about evil. She lost her whole family. She knows enough about evil already. And Katya doesn't need to be bound to anything, when her own choices have left her so deeply entrenched.

"That’s the first lesson. Always blame the Devil for your crimes." (0:15:24)

Katya is Eve. Katya got roped into this mess a long time ago and has so many regrets now that she understands what it all means. Katya plays her piano in the room next to a murder, not because she doesn't know what's going on, but because she DOES. Katya wishes more than anything that she could turn back the clock to some idyllic time before her daughter died, before she joined the mafia, before she ever had to steal a purse or put a gun to a man's head. She tries so hard to end that cycle of violence... and it doesn't work. It was never going to work. The Apple of Eden isn't part of a cycle; it's just the beginning of the story.

"Don’t you dare speak to me about Cosenza." (1:20:41)

Sofia is Persephone. Sofia is constantly arguing that murder isn't necessary- but she also nearly drowns Katya, and shows a bizarre fascination with death when Katya threatens her with the knife. Sofia is linked to nature (the green dress, the sunset motif, the vase of flowers in her first scene) but in paltry, disconnected ways (her dress has metal buttons, the sunsets are over the city, the flowers are halfway to wilting). Sofia is part of a cycle; moments of happiness and joy, interspersed and defined by recurring instances of death and violence. Her childhood in WW2. The incident where she lost her leg. Whatever happened that made her learn how to use a gun. Her whole bloodied dynamic with Katya now. But Sofia CAN escape... for a time. She can walk away from the violence and have her summer in the sunlight. At least until tragedy strikes again.

Which makes the ending of the movie really bittersweet. Sofia sails away on the boat (Charon's Ferry, making a reverse trip across the River Styx). And the scene closes as the first snowflakes start to fall. Winter comes to Naples, because spring follows Persephone when she leaves.

How long until she comes back?

#goncharov #haven't seen any other scorsese films so idk if he's into deep mythology takes or if i'm reading too much into this #i think a whole other essay could be written on the symbolism that happens when you start shipping them #and wondering why they were trying to SHARE the fruits #but i am not qualified to write that #katya may understand evil but i don't think she comprehends good #like girl really. shooting paolo and then yourself isn't going to break the cycle #classic revenge plot mistake #did anyone else think it was a little unclear whether she actually died or not???#i think it's more thematic if she survives but i can see the counterpoints #so maybe it was meant to be ambiguous idk #this feels like a stretch but... could her iconic scarf represent a serpent whispering into her ear?#i think there's also a lot to be read into the 'trusting your husband' sermon and why katya's really off-balance but sofia isn't #if you contrast eve-adam and persephone-hades relationships #and that's not even getting INTO the second fruit stand scene oh my is that a lot to unpack #have not reached any solid conclusions on that meta #sofia is the best character change my mind

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vaguelyaperson · 1 year

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dare I say it, but Icepick Joe's revenge arc was splendidly crafted and deserves the same recognition as Inigo Montoya

#goncharov 1973 #goncharov #icepick joe #the princess bride #inigo montoya #revenge arc #unreality

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existential-cringe · 2 years

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My brother in christ are the girls gays and theys having a good year in media

#our flag means death #do revenge #the owl house #first kill #young royals #heartstopper #interview with a vampire #what we do in the shadows #velma dinkley #good omens #the sandman #warrior nun #goncharov #2022

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spideygal · 1 year

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! SPOILERS FOR GONCHAROV !

Drew a screenshot from one of my favourite scenes from the movie!

I know Goncharov was traumatised and manipulated by a lot of people in the past, but he had no right to treat him like he did in this backstory scene.

#goncharov #goncharov (1973)#honestly i'm so happy that the guy tried and took revenge on him #good for him #martin scorsese #spidey's art for your silly sills!!#cw unreality

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motocorsas · 1 year

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i love goncharov for its exploration of circular narratives/destiny/doomed protagonists just like everyone else. but what might be the most poignant aspect of the film thematically is that the cycle isn't impervious; as in, it continues because the characters allow it. katya fully has the opportunity to stop the tragedy in its tracks and refuse to marry, but she doesn't. not because she can't stop the cycle of revenge that has overtaken the mob for generations, but because she doesn't want to. she has agency in that moment but actively chooses to let the story run its course.

#goncharov #it is feminist!! god forbid a woman make one wrong decision and doom her entire city to another of revenge and bloodshed!!

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tfisathoughtfulnickelbakeryfire · 1 year

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"No matter how many hands stop turning, no matter how many gears you break, there is always another one, somewhere, sometime. And by the time you've dealt with that one, the first one has been fixed. It never ends, Goncharov, not even in the bloodiest wars. Not even with you."

"Darling Sofia, you make the mistake of going after the clock and ignoring the clock maker. It's disappointing how enormously you underestimate a pretty face when it enchants you. You are truly no better than a man."

#ew this so cringe what have I done 🚶‍♀️#just Sofia getting pissed and calling Katya by her married name #Then Katya gets pissed #but in a hot way #katya is a lot more subtle than Goncharov when it comes to revenge #gonchorav 1973 #goncharav #katya x sofia #katya michailov #martin scorsese #matteo jwhj 0715

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urgentkettle · 8 months

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Goncharov's Return/Revenge discourse is like

#I've only seen a bootleg rip of Goncharov's Return (1983) dir. Alan Smithee.#but there is also #Goncharov's Revenge #Goncharov's Revenge (1983) dir Robert Zemeckis #Goncharov's Return (1983) dir Alan Smithee #Goncharov's Return TV edit #GR/R #Goncharov's Return #Alan Smithee #robert zemeckis #Goncharov #unreality #unreality cinema

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honeylover · 1 year

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broke down and watched goncharov 1973- best part was 100% cybill shepherd's performance. The RANGE ugh the vulnerability Katya had when she was alone with Sofia .... the fierce love she had for goncharov and the subtle way it soured into resentment, but the audience could see that the love was never /really/ gone. Katya come here baby I would never treat you like that, never ever

#if it were up to me the final kill would've been her call. she's the one dealing with the fallout and shes the one who deserves revenge.#but of course gonchy doesnt see it like that. frustrating as all hell #goncharov #gravel

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palior · 1 year

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Awards 2022 : Movies

Second category: Movies that I saw this year.

Best Animated Movie Award - Turning Red

Period.

'Actually This Is Monsanto And You Should be Very Scared' Award - Goliath

Cyberpunk 2022.

Best Soap Commercial Placement Award - Belfast

I'm like Caitriona Balfe character, I like when things are where they are supposed to be.

Goodbye Award - Downton Abbey II : A New Era

Goodbye to the Downton Abbey upstairs/downstairs family, you have been a pleasant, albeit very uneven, plethora of characters to follow.

Misfire (and Character Assassination) Award - Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

Excited to have Wanda on my screen again, I could only be gutted as to how she's been treated in this movie. Making her evil because a Necronomicon-lite book corrupted her to the point that her actions are not even from her own will. What a wasted opportunity.

Scared of Actually Being Queer Award - Thor : Love & Thunder

I don't understand how can Taika Waititi be in one of the best queer piece of media of this year (Our Flag Means Death) and then turn around and do...this. While claiming that the movie is "so gay". No, two rock dudes grabbing hands does not count as representation. And Valkyrie and Jane should have kissed. And the Gods Butcher arc and the Mighty Thor arc should have been two seperate movies.

Actually Queer Award - Fire Island

Pleasently surprised by what is essentialy 'Pride & Prejudice - The Gay Version'. Not only are the characters are as great as in the Jane Austen novel, it also doesn't shy away from doing social commentary about class and the gay community fuck ups.

Best High School Experience for the 1% - Do Revenge

SMG IS BACK ON MY SCREEN AGAIN§§§ OMG!!!!

Best Marvel New Format Award - Werewolf by Night

I really dig the new 'special' format that Marvel has been trying out this year. This one in particular was really enjoyable as a Halloween must watch.

Best Monster Design Award - Hellraiser

Sashay Away!

Best Mafia Movie (That Never Was) Award - Goncharov (1973)

"You will have to tell them I am sorry, for I have no sorrow left."

Best Movie Award - Everything Everywhere All at Once

The movie that puts to shame all the others that try to do multiverses. Full of earnestness, sorrow, fun, humor, love and with a Michelle Yeoh at the top of her game, this is THE movie to watch this year. Nothing matters :( Nothing matters o:)

#My awards 2022 #movies #Turning Red #Goliath #Belfast #Downton Abbey #Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness #Thor: Love and Thunder #Fire Island #Do Revenge #Werewolf by Night #Hellraiser #Goncharov #Everything Everywhere All At Once

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too-cool-for-facebook · 7 months

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You know you're in too deep when you get mad about a non-existent sequel to a non-existent movie 😆🤣

#Goncharov's Return #goncharov's revenge #gr/r #goncharov #gonchposting

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ettadunham · 1 year

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you wanted them to kiss, i wanted them to absolutely decimate each other, to scratch and gnaw until there's nothing left but bones, to laugh maniacally in the face of mutually assured destruction, to go down in flames burning everything and everyone around them, hand in unlovable hand --- we are not the same

#this is about do revenge but maybe it's also about goncharov #feel free to project

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