Y'know, I think part of the reason people think the Jedi's downfall was somehow their fault is that 99% of media teaches them to think that way

Most of the time in fiction when a good institution is destroyed/collapses it's depicted as "deserving" it somehow, that the organization was corrupt, decadent, etc etc, and in someway is the cause of it's own destruction

But that's not the case with the Jedi Order

George Lucas is actually very subversive in his writing, as the Jedi order was not corrupt or decaying, or made some choice which causes its own destruction, unlike literally everything else in fiction, the Jedi Order's death was completely divorced from anything they did, instead being entirely down to a conspiracy of a thousand years and the choice of one man

On the note of the last post. I'm just constantly turning over the idea that Dooku KNEW what was in his future.

I think it's very intrinsic to both his and a lot of the Sith's descent that they think they can outsmart Sith ideology. I imagine Dooku thought he could get by learning and not falling into it himself. He was fed up with the Jedi, yes, but that didn't mean he immediately flipped sides. He still respected them and was respected in turn.

But that's not the way the Sith work. It's not possible to just dip a toe in. The Sith know how to get to you, to get into your head, and to draw you in before you even notice it, and by that point you don't even want out.

And I think it adds another layer if Dooku knew. If he was told by Sifo-Dyas for decades to be careful, that he was destined to fall, that he would lose, and yet. He still does.

The thing about the Gray Jedi that doesn’t work is that you can’t be 50/50, that’s not how the Force works.

The Force is an incredibly simple magic system, honestly. Good people (Jedi) gain Good People Powers through working on themselves and helping people, and bad people (Sith) gain Bad People Powers by making themselves miserable and hurting everyone around them.

You cannot be a good person and have Bad People Powers like Force Lightning or whatever because those powers literally come from causing and exploiting people’s suffering. The Gray Jedi just don’t work because the Force is a dichotomy. There is the the Dark Side and the Light Side. You cannot be both, and if you could, well, being 50% evil is not a good thing, actually.

At best, you get something like the Bendu from Rebels where he’s just like, the worst kind of bystander. He has a ton of power and strength and he refuses to use it for anything, he lets everyone else be miserable, he lets the world get worse because he refuses to pick a side in a world that demands he have one. And at worst, you get Anakin Skywalker in RotS who is flip-flopping between light and dark, killing an unarmed prisoner one moment and risking his life and the Chancellor’s to save Obi-Wan the next. You get someone desperately unstable and uncontrollable who lashes out randomly and extremely destructively, pulling himself deeper into the Dark because he refused to choose a damn side.

Being 50% evil is either a step towards being 100% evil or it’s just… nothing. Utter passivity, refusal to do anything because it disrupts the ‘balance’ that never actually existed because good and evil are not equal. There’s no real nuance there, it’s a simple magic system, but that’s because it was made for kids! Look it up, GL has said all this before.

Anyway, yeah, being half evil kind of inherently precludes you from being a good person.

din and paz have such an interesting relationship nd i feel like nobody really talks about that. the theme of brotherhood is a key element in star wars (ie. anakin and obi-wan, however you perceive that) that definitely extends into the mandalorian.

right off the bat we can tell that paz and din have a Weird Dynamic. they’re already beating the shit out of each other and starting fights. but we can see how disappointed paz is in din over the imperial job, the feeling of betrayal. at one point they must have had some sort of mutually respective relationship, built on the foundation of shows of strength

despite their collisions in s1 paz was still there for din when he needed backup. they supported each other bound by creed up until the feud over the darksaber.

idk i just wanna see more about din’s covert in the show

It may have been intended as an honor, but the Armorer sending Bo-Katan out to "unite both worlds" felt extremely cruel to me.

Bo-Katan had found people who accepted her without needing to prove her worth. Her past deeds and mistakes were irrelevant; the only thing that mattered was her current actions.

Her need to liberate and free people saved innocent lives. She led a small group on a mission, but was not forced the responsibility to command the entire clan alone.

Bo-Katan was finally starting to feel like she belonged and was part of a family again.

And then the Armorer tells Bo-Katan she is not like the others. Her history and knowledge of the outside is a tool that can further their goals. She "walks both worlds", but she cannot live in theirs.

Bo-Katan might want to reclaim Mandalore as her birthright, but that should not be a requirement to be loved.

I’m kinda tired of SW stories that focus on “challenging what we know about Jedi/Sith/The Force.”

This isn’t just me being a certified Jedi-Appreciator™️, this is mostly me just being bored with the concept.

Despite coming from a place of wanting to be “different,” we’ve had so many of these kinds of stories that the premise is ironically unoriginal.

I think part of the problem is that it also leads to a weird feeling of… unintentional inconsistency? Like, we’re never given a solid enough foundation on what the fuck the Jedi even are to the wider galaxy anymore because we’re constantly debating if the obvious good guys are really the good guys.

It gets to the point that some of the stories bend the established worldbuilding backwards so that they can continue to keep up these same debates despite having already done this a million times (see: Ahsoka).

Or will retcon each other to tell the exact same narrative over again (see: Tales of the Jedi vs Dooku: Jedi Lost).

Or try to approach the Jedi (space monks literally powered by good vibes) in bad faith while trying to approach the Sith (magical space fascists) in good faith (see: SWTOR).

I just look at the hype for the Acolyte, seeing people argue about it with, “well we already know the Jedi are flawed, so what’s the issue?”

Well *my* issue is that yes, we are already well aware of the Jedi Order’s flaws, we’ve had like 12 different projects that go over that shit in the last 8 years alone.

Excuse me if I’m a little bored and skeptical of what number 13 can add to the conversation at this point.

A story showing the Jedi Order through the lens of someone who genuinely doesn’t have issues with the sacrifices the lifestyle asks of them would feel fresher.

(Plus no one will ever be able to challenge Star Wars as well as the Kotor games did)

good evening here are my bad batch season 3 episode 1 thoughts:

OMEGA MY BABY GIRL MY DAUGHTER OMEGA!!!!!!! she’s been trapped for so long her hair has grown so much i can’t take it. she made her own lula 😭😭😭

i won’t lie when they showed the clones getting blood samples taken i said to my brother “it’s me!” just some phlebotomist humor for ya. though i wish it was actually that easy to draw blood

so the imperial cloning division is trying to raise the M-count of the blood samples they take and nala se doesn’t want to test omega’s blood. maybe because her dna is unaltered from jango fett unlike the other clones it’s more likely to succeed? and nala se doesn’t want that. she has nothing against scientific improvement, so this breakthrough would likely put omega in danger, the only thing she cares about enough to sabotage the experiments

ohhh crosshair my crosshair 😢 he’s just so defeated and he’s convinced he doesn’t deserve to be rescued. and he’s still trying to pretend that he doesn’t care about omega but he so obviously does. he literally tells her not to risk her life to help him. he has a heart under that cold exterior

speaking of the detention level, seeing the clones in so much pain from the experiments broke my heart. i hope that not only omega and crosshair escape, but they’re able to help as many clones get out as possible

omega befriending the lurca hound was so sweet. even in a terrible situation, she expresses kindness to innocents. she definitely has a strong connection with animals (sounds like a certain jedi i know) (i’m not saying omega’s force sensitive but also i am). the way she refused to let batcher be euthanized and chose to heal her and help her escape. she has such a heart of gold that no one else in the facility can understand. crosshair goes as far to say she’s getting distracted from her objective of escape

and then we come to hemlock. what an interesting villain. his opening scene does a good job of establishing just how expendable he views most life forms to be, by letting the stormtroopers die in the jungle without a bit of remorse. the clones aren’t human to him, just a tool used to complete his objective. he has no regard for the pain he puts them through. as soon as a lurca hound is injured or too domesticated, he orders it to be killed. after all, these things can be replaced. what’s fascinating is the way he frames omega’s act of defiance by freeing batcher not as a loss for him, but a mistake for her. he calls omega cruel for subjecting a domesticated creature to a gruesome death in the jungle. according to him, batcher would have died either way. but omega refuses to follow this hopeless mode of thinking. she has faith batcher can survive. she has faith in crosshair. she even has faith in emerie, who so far has aided in holding omega against her will. maybe this faith is futile, but it’s all she has. giving up is not in her nature. for now, batcher is alive and free, and emerie chooses to break the rules by allowing omega to keep her replacement lula doll. crosshair says omega trusts too easily, but she may be right that crosshair doesn’t trust enough. after all, her trust in emerie seems like it could pay off

emerie is intriguing. as the only other female clone we know of, she was transferred off kamino early on for undisclosed reasons and now works for the imperial cloning division. i suspect she may be just as much a prisoner as omega is. after all, hemlock views most clones as expendable, why would emerie be any different? and i think omega’s defiance is starting to inspire her to fight against her shackles. curious to see how this plays out

the best way to discourage omega from her rebellion is to weaponize her kindness against those she loves. hemlock threatening crosshair if omega acts out again is the perfect way to get her to comply. she wants to escape, but i think her love for her brother will outweigh her mission

wow that was long winded but i think i’m done. i’ve only seen episode 1 but i’m planning to watch episodes 2 and 3 tomorrow afternoon. so i still have to filter my dash for spoilers and i can’t see what others are saying about the season so far, but i’m excited to see people’s thoughts! i for one am loving it. also shoutout to kevin kiner’s score as always. the almost old-timey sounding piano was haunting and beautiful, he truly never misses

this might be a tad controversial, but i don’t like what they did with bail in this episode. he’s always been implied to be strictly necessary with the information he shares; i mean, he didn’t tell ben and ahsoka the other one was alive, for heaven’s sake. (and i’m not saying that wasn’t the right choice. it was. i’m just saying it shows he leads with logic over emotion.)

so the fact he just drops the names of tatooine, owen, ‘the boy’… it feels ooc. it feels like a plot device. first of all, why don’t they have code names for all of that? in case of this exact situation? why does bail state this? why would he do this, so suddenly? (he knows more than anyone that that would be suspicious as hell to do. alderaanian senator visiting tatooine? please. he can’t do that on a whim.)

honestly, it actually makes sense for him to send ahsoka into the plot here. 

and bail trusts ben. he wouldn’t be so concerned, he’s worked with obi-wan before, he knows he’s kind of batshit, but he gets the job done. even if he was concerned, he wouldn’t state it like that. he’s a politician, he knows he shouldn’t give that away.

bail’s only really been a supporting character in other media, but i thought it gave a pretty solid and consistent impression of his core traits. somehow, in a few lines, this episode has absolutely killed my previous interpretation. am i insane 

My problem with Kenobi series or how "death of Anakin Skywalker" ruined it for me.

"Then my friend is truly dead."

Oh, that phrase, man. How can Obi-wan accept that lie if he sees (in the show it's heavily implied that Anakin is still somewhere deep down inside Vader with the blue colour of the saber lighting his face up) the obvious glimpses of "good" (at least the "old" Anakin) in him. Isn't his rash behavior, that, as evidenced by the flashback was a prominent trait of his, predating Vader, and how it originated from the past and survived the transition, the obvious in-your-face proof of Anakin "staying alive"? I know it could be read as dramatic irony, but... It fails to present as such because of the "lightheartedness" of the ending.

The sheer irony of Obi-wan's arc.

By gaining hope in himself by the end of the series he somehow manages to lose something far more important: faith in Anakin ever coming back to the light. As if from the prequels Obi-wan has ever believed in him. He starts with being skeptical about teaching the child and ends with him not seeing Anakin returning to the light even as a possibility, even if Luke, who knows him far less than Ben and Yoda, does. (Yes, I admit, there were a couple of moments in ROTS that tell us how much Obi-wan cares for Ani. Though his lack of support on the Jedi council shows otherwise. Trust me, I had that kind of spineless friend. Even at that point the Jedi code, the opinion of the council is far more important than Anakin could ever be.) That's what the real tragedy is.

In contrast, I actually don't mind Luke clashing with Ben about it in OT, because there's a bit of conflict actually stemming from their different opinions of Vader, adding to the tension between them, so in OT it's feels fine and it is even implied as a character flaw. That's why it works. Luke is our moral compass, not Ben, we are conditioned to hope for Vader, because we are conditioned to believe in Luke. (Which is a whole another story, honestly. Because even there, yes, Luke is a hero, but the one we would care about even if he turns to the dark side, the director doesn't have to force us to believe he's a good guy, he's already compelling enough.) Whereas with Ben, there's a certain urge to meet the standard of "wise older jedi", and of course, you can't possibly have any faulty judgment attributed to him, right? We're constantly shown how he cares about Leia, sacrifices himself for others, is kind, compassionate, blah-blah-blah. That Kenobi can do no wrong, right? And that doesn't mean just make a mistake, like with Tara, no, but he's proven to be completely wrong about someone up until he dies and is a force ghost long enough to see his faulty reasoning.

And how can they erase that flaw? - you ask. By writing up a convenient plot thread that, in the context of the scene itself doesn't make much sense, as well as it robs us of any complexity surrounding Obi-wan's sturdy point of view and makes both characters seem more gullible: Ben - for accepting that absurd explanation in the first place, Vader - for having an "Anakin" moment for absolutely no reason. (Why is it there? It doesn't seem to affect Obi-wan's judgment at all. Manipulation? Sure, but, tell me, why? I'm pretty sure Vader doesn't care about what he thinks of him, what he wants out of this confrontation is the pleasure and closure of killing him. Unless his reaction is vital to understanding the scene. On that note, later.) I'm not even mentioning how this moment was almost a complete rehash of Vader's confrontation with Ashoka up to cutting open the helmet.

So, after the added context of this series, I fail to see this change of mind and then this much confidence in Obi-wan saying Vader is too far gone, after he clearly saw the proof of the opposite, as understandable or even logical. For me, that seemed like the stupidest most shoehorned justification for Ben to accept that lie and check into the box for Alec Guinness's character in ANH. It almost feels selfish, even after all this sacrificing your life for others shtick, because, of course, we can't have complex characters with faults and heroic moments, we can't have Obi-wan be someone other than a goody-two-shoes, when even by this Universe's standards he doesn't have the moral high ground.

I just can't stress enough that he either fails to recognize his friend's struggle between light and dark and the sheer hopelessness of the situation even with the mask off, or deliberately accepts the idea of his former padawan being "dead" and completely replaced by someone unrelated so that would absolve him of his remaining guilt. And he even FEELS BETTER at the end?! Fuck me. What even is this? Where is ambiguity? Where does it remotely makes sense? What even is Star Wars anymore?

I feel like the only way I could even interpret this scene differently is because of both Ewan and Hayden's exceptional acting. I have to admit, the "I'm sorry" had me sobbing my guts out. And that makes me hate the following scenes even more. Obi-wan had the weight of his sins crawling on his back, he realized just how much he had failed Anakin, especially by unknowingly letting him live and suffer all this time with no hope whatsoever illuminating his path of not even existence, but survival. Of course he would think of himself as dead, because Anakin Skywalker's friends left him to die. He can't escape, can't disobey, can't turn back, because back doesn't exist, back leads nowhere. Padme - choked by his own ambition, almost all traces of Jedi are wiped from the Empire by his own hands, his former master - traitor and his mortal enemy. There is nowhere to go, but forward. Into destruction and oblivion. What is dark if not absence of painful memories? What is death if not the lack of will to live? But, Vader, Vader has enough of that will. He's the manifestation of perseverance against insurmountable odds. He's a mountain that never crumbles, he's emperors right hand man. But denial of weakness isn't strength.

Vader is a coping mechanism. It was bound to crumble.

This is the only defense I have for it. Ben's inability to comprehend the absolute terror that must be Anakin's existence. What if he just blindly believes this lie that Vader tells himself, because of his lack of ability to even picture Anakin's suffering? "No one can survive that, not even him." He thought. Here's the irony. He can, he did exactly that. Be it the force, or the prophecy, or the determination (that's slowly waining out as we get to ANH) or all of that at once, he survived. In Obi-wan's mind, this new thing, Vader, is a perfect explanation for this. He saw his pure rage, saw him killing younglings and put it all together the puzzle to get the: "This is not my student, it can't possibly be. It's Palpatine's protege, Vader." He might just believe that Ani's mind was broken and put together, forming something completely different. That "Anakin" is dead, because this thing is his smoldering remains. This interpretation also makes sense with the apparent lack of psychological education in Jedi curriculum. Though, even counting this, you see, Ben is still mistaken. There's literally no way of maintaining his "wise, unchallenged judgment" that the tone of the series so badly wants to maintain. Which sucks not just due to logical inconsistencies, but because it sends a harmful message.

According to this story, we should look up to people like Ben, even consider them selfless heroes, copy their behavior, strive to be like them, do everything to choose hope over common sense and look for easy explanations over accepting out faults in their entirety and working on changing our perspective or, at least, recognizing our faults before our actions help turn anyone to the dark side or reinforce their lack of belief in themselves, while you walk out of there a real winner, wearing a crown of willful ignorance and hypocrisy.

But, wait. Nothing's over yet, we need to set the tone. There's this whole idea called moral ambiguity...

I mean, you could argue "How can you expect something like this from Star Wars? It's outrageous! It's unfair!" Let me explain. Yes, Star Wars does have it's own established "moral code" that it uses to convey a message, having, for example, two characters, whose alignment lies on two different end of one scale. The contrast between Luke and Vader, for instance: One's ruthless and unforgiving, the other - caring and merciful. I'd even argue that there's a place for ambiguity where there character's similarities lie: both Luke and Vader tap into their anger. Luke steps into the dark side, just like Anakin does, the difference being the time they spend there: a couple of seconds or twenty years.

This "code" only makes sense if it stays consistent throughout the course of multiple trilogies, series, or at least, the faults of the characters don't suddenly get minimized or erased through plot convenience to not muddy up their reputation.

Trust me, I wanted to like 'Obi-wan Kenobi'. Just the fact of Christensen being back gave me goosebumps. But what they did with the characters seems very odd to me. Personally, I saw Kenobi "sparing" Luke the truth about his father in ANH, because of how it might affect him, a conscious decision, not a misconception or an error in judgement, because his behavior is supposed to represent how he learned from the mistakes of the Jedi order and changed for the better.

With the context from the series, it almost seems like he's doing it at the expense of not-that mentally-stable-and-reliable others. It's like telling a severely depressed person that they are right in thinking they don't deserve to live, that there's something fundamentally wrong with them and, then completely giving up on them altogether.

When I was younger I related strongly to Anakin, (with all that gifted kid bullshit and pressure and the lack of support. I felt all that) so, according to their story's message, when I was at my lowest, the right thing to do for a kind-hearted person and a good friend would be to tell me just how worthless I am and how mighty right they are for leaving me, glad even, because I am such a downer.

Well, thanks, Disney.

My only complaint with Kenobi is how dark nearly every single scene is shot. I mean, sure they’re often in low-light environments, but they could’ve done something with the contrast of texture or…something? I have an easier time watching Moria and Night Scenes from Peter Jackson’s LotR than I do really any Kenobi Scene that wasn’t in strong, direct sunlight.

(Oh yeah, and the absense of clones aside from the homeless vet. I know it was a slim chance to actually see Cody or anyone else from the 212th, but still! I just. Really wanted to see the clones. Let Ben and the clones have that closure of “it was the chip. They never wanted to turn on eachother. Their relationships mattered.”

(I also see a LOT of flack about Reva and the Inquisitors which…is hard to NOT be suspicious about? Filoni started that? They’re well-established? They make SENSE as a way to control surviving jedi and force-users (that WILL continue to be born)? Kenobi’s about healing? So Reva being a youngling-survivor who was made into an Inquisitor actually makes sense as a foil for Ben and Vader (and Quinlan)? WHATEVER. Kenobi handled the Canon Walls FAR better than either Rebels or The Mandelorian.)

And about Leia and Ben—

Okay. This actually gives depth to “Help me, Obi-wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope.” Specifically reaching out to Ben who’s living in hiding as a hermit on Tatooine. And goshdarnit FINALLY Leia is remembered (and Padme) verses this obsession with the Skywalker Men. (As well as the Organas.)

We also get a better Why to why Ben didn’t train up Luke—less because of Owen, more because Owen was (somewhat) right. As well as why Leia wasn’t trained (and didn’t even know she was force-sensitive despite easily resisting Vader’s attempt to use the Force to pull information out of her + Twin Telepathy to save Luke.) It was frankly far safer for them that way (and their Force Sensitivity to develop on its own in more discrete ways than chucking rocks—Leia’s Mindshields. Luke’s Reflexes.)

And LIKE. Lucas has a LONG habit of retconning his own lore (like OT Leia allegedly remembering her birth mother in what’s quite frankly a throwaway line as Luke doesn’t follow up on that At All after asking her about their mother. Then we meet Padme who��dies. Because Reasons. after childbirth.) and approving really bullshit things in the EU/Legends (like “Somehow…Palpatine survived.” Yeah that’s right Disney BORROWED that one. Palps and Cloned Palps has been an unfortunate franchise-device since preBuyOut. And a MAJOR reason why I never cared to read the EU material (aside from HUNDREDS of books and comics OH MY) as a child-then-teen.)

So like. Kenobi handled all that gracefully. Within set-norms for the greater franchise (including when the creator kept full-rights/last word.)

It works as a midquel and as a near stand-alone. WITHOUT killing everyone off or wiping minds or yeeting through a wormhole or portal to outside the galaxy or another dimensional reality. And in SW? That’s INCREDIBLY difficult to do—without deliberately working from the framework of “this is a Tragedy” (like The Clone Wars and Rogue One.)

if i was gonna start posting star wars meta (mainly on luke) would it be okay to post one big post to start off with since i guess i have hot takes and the basis of it is definitely controversial but like i can source and evidence every last point

i want to make sure that they’re nuanced but i’m also scared of upsetting people and starting arguments cos i’ve had a bad experience on other more toxic sites (and also a brilliant one like they led me to so many new friends and opportunities, but y’know.)

probably won’t be for a couple weeks or months though

One of the most often misunderstood parts of Star Wars is the concept of giving in to the dark side

Too often there's the idea that when you give in, the dark side takes control of you

But it doesn't, it can't, the dark side is not some external force that you allow in

It's just you

The dark side is in you, it's in all of us, it's a terrible part of ourselves, it's the terrible impulses and emotions we feel and must consciously choose to resist

Giving in to the dark side is not someone else controlling you

Giving in to the dark side is when you stop controlling yourself

Every day without fail I am thinking about Qi'ra by the way. Characters who are left behind. Characters who don't have the chance to be the good one. Characters who never get to be the hero. Characters who have the scrabble for the chance to be anything at all. Characters who will never regret still being alive. Characters who hold on so tight their hands are bleeding and who never get to be anything else

Only Crosshair could have let her go in that moment. Crosshair, who's learned not only to trust Omega but to respect her autonomy. Who knows what it means to be the cause of your loved one's pain for reasons outside of your control. Who's willing to risk everything to honor her wishes.

And only Omega could have convinced him to do it. Omega, the one person who never gave up on him. Who taught him that people can change for the better, even himself. The person for whom his hand doesn't shake when the shot really matters.

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I was devastated when he failed to hit them with the tracker. It's not often that Star Wars shocks me, but I needed to let the credits roll as it sank in that he really missed.

It would have been so easy for the writers to give them the win here. For this to be the culmination of all their character growth this season. Don't get me wrong, I'm not mad about it. This is fantastic. I have no idea what's going to happen next. The writers are making some brave choices this season, and I am so here for it.

today on "absolutely unhinged things for stover to put on paper and lucas to approve," the depiction of obi-wan's self-aware attachment to anakin here, how ready he'd be to kill yoda for the greater good, and how he'd let yoda kill him too, but anakin is the exception to their entire order and to obi-wan's moral judgment.

all three of them here, arguably the three most important jedi in the galaxy, they all know with wariness that anakin, the chosen one, has failed to grasp the central tenet of their code, and they don't know what to do about it. obi-wan thinks he failed him, failed to teach him; he knows anakin failed to learn, failed to accept it, how he'd would never let a friend go.

obi-wan here offers keen, intimate analysis of anakin's inner workings, shining a light on who darth vader really is in his heart, his loyalty beyond any moral or ethical bounds. obi-wan is painfully aware of how he is complicit in fostering this inappropriate attachment, only encouraging anakin's behavior. we see why he apologized in the kenobi show, how he was already sorry.

tbh this page changed me—my understanding of the characters, and my appreciation of the entire tragedy, like.. look how anakin has compromised obi-wan, and look at how much obi-wan loves him anyway. look at how the heart of this incipient monster is described with tender, ruthless clarity by the one who knows it best... on the next page obi-wan's literally crying about what they've done... i'm astrally projecting into the sun

Ikr and why are people still trying to deny that Grogu learned peacekeeping from Jedi and trying to act like Din taught him these things? No he didn't and fans are just bitter Grogu learned positive things from Luke and Jedi instead of their Mando blorbo. They're so transparent.

I genuinely have no idea what about this short post that made you think I hated Din and his fans. It may have been meant in Jedi-loving solidarity, but it could not be further from the truth.

Din Djarin does have peacemaking skills and often puts in great effort to avoid conflict if possible. The dialogue drew a parallel with Luke, but it is extremely possible he learned it from Din.

The awesome thing about Grogu's story is that he is both Jedi and Mandalorian. He doesn't have to disown one or the other, but can learn the value of both cultures.

It is extremely frustrating. The theme of this show is about making peace, stopping violence, love, and family. And yet so many fans insist on dividing and fighting each other.