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kayte-overmoon · 1 year
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hc that when connor first deviates he picks up all hanks favorite things before slowly learning hank has terrible taste
he listens to all six knights of the black death albums before finding metallica, silverstein, paramore, and dozens of other rock bands and realizing oh, kotbd kinda sucks?
he watches all the detroit gears' games with hank before noticing their rivals, the chicago beasts, are way better and have a less cranky fanbase.
he always picks up their chinese takeout from great wall before stopping by china palace when their regular was closed, and holy shit their general tsos is divine???
he starts liking things on his own, too.
he takes up embroidery, which makes hank call him a sentient sewing machine. he disables his wifi when he does it to make sure he doesn't accidentally pull designs from the internet.
he starts running every morning—for fun, rather than for work. hank never joins him, even when connor offers to go at his pace.
he likes, most of all, sitting on hank's ancient couch with sumo slumped on one side of him and hank slouched on the other, some bad reality show connor's found he likes playing softly on the tv.
hank didn't teach him that, but connor supposes it's only human to have bad taste sometimes.
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The rewrite of the original story
Everyone in the world wants a happy ending, but some work harder to get it. Most people dream, while some would do anything to achieve it, murder, bribery, and countless other less than savoury acts. Very few can achieve a truly happy ending especially when the world fights back. As for our story's main characters, a happy ending could be a million miles around the corner.
This story takes place after Thsc’s toppat recruits ending and Undertale’s pacifist ending and is heavily inspired by @knightmareaceblue .
Chapter(s) below cut:
Chapter 1: Where Souls Collide
Chapter 2: Tugging At Heartstrings
Chapter 3: One Step At A Time
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carlyraejepsans · 2 months
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hibiscia!!! Sorry if youve explained before but is there something specific about reset-remember fics that you hate? I don't really like them either but for me it's just because I feel like a lot of authors type sans in very ooc ways
They're completely antithetical to Sans' character arc for the sake of cheap and easy angst. The nature of his brand of cosmic horror isn't in reliving his life again and again, that's Flowey's. Sans knows OF the anomaly, knows that it's manipulating time and knows it's a threat to the entire universe, but he doesn't know how or why, because he doesn't remember.
And that's crucial! him being mostly in the dark in spite of the MANY warning signs about us... because it's in that doubt that he remains hopeful. YES we could potentially end the world... but what if we don't? yes we have unimaginable power over everyone else and we can bring back time, but what if we're just.... sad? he needs that gap in his knowledge so he can take a leap of faith across it, it's his entire character arc in the pacifist run. sans THINKS he's given up, he wants to have given up, he chose to do it because there's a comfort in that. in contenting yourself with good food and bad laughs. there's peace. but he hasn't given up, not really. on himself? maybe. but not in us.
there's no way to have that arc if he remembers resets.
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tigerbears · 3 months
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HOLY $#!%!!!!!!
I finally beat Undertale Yellow and this has to be the greatest UT fan-game boss fight of all time.
and I'm ranking it as second favorite UT boss fight right behind freaking ASRIEL DREEMURR BOSSFIGHT!!!
(You can probably guess seeing as the ceroba boss fight takes huge inspiration from the final boss of UT's true pacifist.)
If you haven't played the fan-game, well you just got one of the coolest moments in the pacifist run spoiled to you out of context but still play it!
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northstarscowboyhat · 13 days
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So I guess asgore is desperate to find clover or he doesn't know that clover is there, because there is an secret ending in the game that if you decide to kill Ceroba, clover and martlet go to meet asgore and he's shock to see clover there
That's correct! During Clover's time growing up in the Underground, Asgore and by extension the Royal Guard were not aware of the fact that another human child was secretly growing up in the Dunes. There were rumors of a human that had fallen down and simply disappeared since their soul was never captured, but Asgore had no way of knowing these rumors had any actual truth behind them.
Once the Royal Guard's investigation into these rumors turned up nothing (given that Clover spent most of their time in the Dunes area where the Royal Guard doesn't have easy access to) Asgore simply gave up hope and resumed waiting around in his castle, waiting for another human to enter the Underground.
This of course, doesn't mean Clover was entirely off the hook. Even as they aged, they still had to remain very vigilant and careful of where they went in the Underground and who they revealed themselves to, given that an unsavory Monster distrustful of humans could still very well report them to the king...
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adorabledaylilly · 1 year
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I think the reason people separate Machine!Connor and Deviant!Connor so much as characters is because they don’t actually understand his motivations in the story. They don’t separate Violent!Marcus and Pacifist!Marcus because his motivation doesn’t change, his means do. Same with Kara. But Connors motivation isn’t as clear as theirs is so people default to the difference being caring about the mission or not, when the mission isn’t his motivation. His motivation is self preservation. The desire to be needed and useful; to live. The only difference really being if he is selfish about his self preservation or empathetic. Every defining moment for Connor is rooted in empathy or apathy, does he prioritize his own survival or does he lend empathy to others understanding that they want to live too?
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anghraine · 1 year
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I know I talk pretty regularly about Faramir's weird command over animals, both because he's my fave and it's cool, and because it's just such a strange detail. But I've also been thinking for awhile about some less direct but still intriguing quotes about how he relates to animals.
So, the usual ones first. Here's Beregond, describing Faramir getting his horse to run towards five Nazgûl while the other horses are fleeing:
‘They will make the Gate. No! the horses are running mad. Look! the men are thrown; they are running on foot. No, one is still up, but he rides back to the others. That will be the Captain [Faramir]: he can master both beasts and men.’
Then there are nameless soldiers in Minas Tirith, watching the orderly part of the retreat across the Pelennor:
The watchers held their breath. 'Faramir must be there,’ they said. 'He can govern man and beast.’
(For context, the ancient Númenóreans he takes after could summon particularly beloved horses by thought alone.)
But also, back in TTT, we heard some interesting details that may be pertinent. Firstly, there's Faramir himself, speaking to Sam:
'Were I as hasty as you, I might have slain you long ago. For I am commanded to slay all whom I find in this land without the leave of the Lord of Gondor. But I do not slay man or beast needlessly, and not gladly even when it is needed.'
And when Anborn reports glimpsing the creature that turns out to be Gollum, he says to Faramir,
'You will not have us slay wild beasts for no purpose, and it seemed no more, so I tried no arrow.'
I think the suggestion here is that it's not standard policy for them to avoid killing wild animals, but a command from Faramir specifically. And he's clear here that he doesn't kill animals for any purpose other than necessity.
And I mean ... if I could get nervous animals to run straight towards Ringwraiths, I'd probably feel weird about killing them, too. But it all does fit together very neatly.
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newtsixtyfive · 1 year
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DBH RARE PAIRS WEEK DAY 1: Secrets + Sacrifice
RK800 - 60 x RK900 - 87
Nines sits, eyebrows furrowed at his partner. Sixty blankly stares at his open palms, eyes distant.
His boyfriend has been acting odd lately, more-so than usual. When Nines would come home from the DPD, he'd always find Sixty sitting, a frown on his face with the barest hint of pain.
He had asked Sixty about it, wondering if the repairs at New Jericho needed any touch ups. But he'd only get a smirk and words of reassurance in response.
And the most pecuiliar part?
Every time he'd attempt to establish a connection with his partner it would be blocked.
But.
Sixty would just roll his eyes, and comment, "Well, my wiring's fucked. What can you do?"
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potatobugz · 3 months
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hallo for the bingo thang… i know nothing abt ut yellow or homestuck😭 i do know flowey is in ut yellow tho! how is his characterization? and if its chill to also request a undertale (not yellow) character, asgore !
Asgore ↓
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Flowey ↓
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BAM asgore and flowey x2 combo
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secretmarial · 2 years
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stainedglassthreads · 9 months
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toriel and papyrus (nonship just to clarify)
Hm.
Toriel asks Papyrus to teach her how to fight. Specifically, how to fight like he does, where he's incapable of ever killing someone if he doesn't want to. She asks this because she remembers her fight with Frisk, where she immediately stops one of her attacks if Frisk runs into her hands, but also due to having some...worrisome nightmares...
After the Barrier is broken, Asgore steps down from his role as King, Toriel takes up her role as Queen again to fill in, and because Toriel talked Asgore out of appointing Frisk to be ambassador, them being much too young for the role, Papyrus just appoints himself Ambassador. Toriel and Papyrus realize they've got more than a few similarities, such as their loneliness and difficulty in connecting with others, how they can both be somewhat overbearing, how they're both rather intelligent. A friendship is struck up, as they both adjust to the role and juggle with both the newly freed monster race who has only just recently resolved to give humanity a chance, and the still-fearful and ignorant humanity.
Papyrus brings Flowey up out of the Underground, and allows him to live with him. He accidentally learns Flowey was once Prince Asriel Dreemurr. There is a series of zany and farcical hijinks as he tries to stop his brother's best friend from learning the true identity of her son.
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👁 do you have a hunter if so share with the class king
UMM I don't have an actual character for her but my roleplay ish idea while playing was that she never used any of the wayfinding coins because she was hoping to save them up to buy sweets for the messengers
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hamsamwich23 · 7 days
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Flowey would unironically think Judgment/Mortimer is cool
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hrokkall · 1 year
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Pushing the boulder back up the hill
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fusulyesheep · 1 year
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I had queen alphys ending brainrot and spent the last one week or so overthinking her outfit as monarch.
ANYWAY here's Alphys design as a queen! I started with the sprite so it would follow something plausible in game and not just something random. Also a sans leak bc im doing him soon
One thing that always bothered me a little is, that when designing queen Alphys most people would go for copying Asgore or Toriel clothes. I understand the logic, "if alphys is the monarch she will have the last monarchs (asgore) clothes" or "if alphys is the queen she will have the last queens (toriel) clothes" as if what they used to wear was mandatory or some code for monster royalty, maybe. But I like to think there's certain things that are tradition (like the color or the deltarune symbol) but Alphys would have her OWN clothes as queen. A little because symbolism. That's what inspired me to create this.
After cut my explanation of all the details I couldn't put in the images itself! WARNING ITS LONG AF
I knew when I started that I wanted to convey who Alphys is in this ending in specific, while keeping characteristics seen both in Asgore and Toriel clothing.
The first thing is that I didn't gave her an armor or crown. I can see Undyne in her ending copying Asgore more and using both of those, since he was like a father figure and she wants to continue his legacy and fight to free monsterkind. Alphys, I believe, would be the opposite. Although she really liked the big guy, we need to reconize that the underground is in SHAMBLES in this ending. It almost a no mercy route. Alphys understands Asgore actions didn't work, and the hope was taken from monsters once again. It was fighting that brought the underground down, killing more humans was not an option anymore. She can't combat violence with violence. That's why the royal guard is dismissed (not that there was any left). I like to headcanon that when she first became queen she couldn't use the crown because she thought it was too much for her become the next "Asgore" and keep his plan (collecting souls from the ones who fall), but she eventually understands she can do things her OWN way.
Likewise, this is also why I didn't keep the cape but gave her a jacket. Capes are used by great kings and super-heros, there's some connection to being "bigger", "stronger" and "heroic" to capes. I can't imagine Alphys seeing herself as some "queen who will save everyone". Again, she takes some time to realize that, but she knows she is just a normal monster, like everyone else, HOWEVER everyone lost friends, family, and hope, and they can't act alone. They need a leader, someone to guide them and give them strength again. YES, she is making decisions, but she is not just "saving" everyone out of nowhere. She is making the plans (WITH HELPPP) so the monsterkind can keep their heads UP. So the long ass jacket is to vaguely remember a cape, but it is Just a Normal Jacket in the end, and it is just this long because Alphys is stills Alphys and she likes to wears baggy clothes that sometimes are kind of "whatever".
The deltarune symbol is still there since I think is just some tradition between the monsterkinds monarchs (same with the shade of purple). It is something culturally and historically important to monsters and Alphys can't just get rid of it. Maybe the meaning of it would change a little, more than what was already changed, since the idea of "savior" or "destroyer" would be kind of lost between monsters. Like, the destroyer has already been to the underground they have to move on, and maybe there'll be no Angel to save them, yknow?
Last I wanna talk about is that my girl IS STRESSEDDD. Is not easy to take leadership in a situation so hopeless like this ESPECIALLY when you were used to hide away, while just... being alone. Her friends, who supported her so much and she loved... they are gone. Asgore is gone. Mettaton is gone. Undyne is GONE....
At least she has Sans tho (THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS AND ALSO WHERE ARE MY QUEEN ALPHYS ENDING SALPHYS TRUTHERS AT????)
Anyway, just to end this already, the summary of what I think are the changes Alphys (with sans) is making:
Making the underground feel more comfortable, tbh. IF there's no hope of escaping, they at least need to learn how to LIVE. and not just "live to see if they can get out one day" NO!! they will create their lives under there, EVEN IF they ave no hope and they lost so many loved ones. They have a lot more focus on making the underground safe also, with lots of new constructions and events sometimes, and the hole from where the humans fell down is monitored 24/7. If someone falls monsters follow the direction of not interacting with it and not start fighting at any circunstancies. The queen, king, and their assistence (it's napstablook, i am a sucker for them and i have Thoughts™) will take care of this.
you can wait for more info dumping from these damn guys coming from me, just wait...
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fandomcrazy09 · 11 months
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Headcannons I have Human/Monster interactions after the Pacifist Ending.
1: “It’s because I have fur/scales/ect. Isn’t it?”
2: Humans being called Furries/Monsterfuckers when in romantic relationships with Monsters.
3: Monsters don’t really understand the concept of the Human healthcare system and will often times start their own practices where they just use healing magic.
4: Human scientists practically swarmed Alphys and asked her a shit ton of questions about the core/her experiments/Mettaton/the overall understandings Monsters have over science. She got very overwhelmed very fast.
5: Monsters have a high rate of adoption/fostering of Human children/teens due to their high acceptance of different genders and sexualities.
6: Humans had to ban/remove a lot of movies and books due to them being harmful and/or offensive to Monsters.
7: Monsters use the ol’ “Your ancestors trapped us underground.” thing a lot.
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