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#literally only the ones who feel the need to shit on sj and sj stans
rainbowpui · 10 months
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I don't get why are they calling us SJ's apologists we never say that abusing LBH was right we just like to point out the fact that SJ (canonically) hasn't abused Any other discipline but LBH yes SY thinks he did but I don't take SY's opinion on SJ seriously
i feel like its bc they want to have complete control over how fandom at large gets to perceive the characters. a lot of BNFs back in the day hated on sj and a lot of the translators had an anti sj bias. so sympathizing with sj at ALL is seen as a threat. you should be kissing ass to the BNFs opinions and only making canon couple artwork. they dont seem to like sj stans but then they are still in our comments looking at our art and writing and complaining that it isnt sy instead the same people who usually shit on sj stans are the type of sy/lbh stans that ironically refuse to see the flaws in their own faves. tbh i think that irl ALL of the sv characters would be kinda shitty people besides like.... gyx.... and they killed him off. sj abusing lbh was wrong but sy being an internet hater is also wrong. sy manipulating ppl is understandable bc he was literally trying to stay alive but it was also wrong. lbh constantly fighting the sects, using other ppl to support his own cultivation, beating up shl, ignoring sy's boundaries over and over and threatening to literally destroy the sect so that sy has nowhere to go back to all of this is morally bad irl!!!!! but it doesnt matter!! bc they are fictional!! there are plenty of ppl who enjoy both sy and sj and acknowledge that they are both great characters with interesting quirks and neurosis without having to go on and on about how much better sy is than sj. the people that make those kinds of comparisons just want to use sj as a scapegoat to cover up sy's flaws. which is sad bc his flaws are what make him an interesting character
i think that its kind of telling too.... that as sj fans we've had people harass us and send death threats and gore into a private sj stan discord server and try to doxx people over having cute sj head canons and tell us that we must be abuse apologists irl bc of what fictional chinese homosexual we stan....
and this is coming from a subset of ppl who stan an internet hater.... and also want to claim that your fave internet characters are an indicator of your irl morality....
i think that for some people they are simply haters. and if sy was hater but still sooooooo """nice"""" and totally morally superior to this other character.... then its a way they can justify to themselves their own internet hater behavior your tastes in fictional characters say nothing about your irl morality. but the way you treat actual people in the fandom youre in says a lot. let people stan whoever they want even if you dont like that chara and mind your own business is what i say
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sareyesj · 3 years
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listen i can not express my anger towards the end of acosf so imma vent and leave my comments on and lay out my anger on them
- Why the fuck did Nesta have to suffer the consequences of feyre's and Rhys child? She considered a life of marriage with Eris so they could have an alliance but instead she ended up giving over her powers
-I despised how it felt as Nesta turned into a housewife after the whole mating thing shit. It affected me more then I wanted it to because Nesta overall is my favorite character in the acotar series so when she became "Only you matter Cassian" type of shit it made my tiny heart crack
-Sj mas made everything about feyre and Rhys in acosf. They were talking about how Nesta could literally die taking the risk to find that Five nights of Freddy mask only for it to stand out over the acotar couple
-Amren and Rhys need to apologize to Nesta for their shitty behavior towards her. Amren : that bitch made me so made when she called her pathetic for having PTSD AND DEPRESSION and said "You were using me..." LIKE NO DUMBASS SHE JUST DOESN'T WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE A GLASS FUCKING SKIPPER. Rhys : overall this little prick made me boil in rage because of how people called him a "feminist king" when he sexually assaulted feyre in acotar but then yall say it was ok and he did it with good intentions...delusionals pricks. But what most pissed me off is how he slept with multiple woman but then slut shamed Nesta for sleeping with men which as she says helps her cope with trauma. idiot
-Cassian gave me a headache when he didn't say "ily" to Nesta back when she confessed her feelings for him. ARE YOU STUPID SAY IT BACK
-Nesta and Lucien were the only ones who didn't make me want to bang my head in a hard wall so they are my favorite
-why does Sarah j mas has to make her female characters give away her powers for another thing...it's either she's sexist and doesn't want woman in her book to be powerful and strong or she just enjoys making stans angry
-what the fuck az
-Mor and Em.. listen i see them together but I don't want them to be. Because mor still hasn't accepted herself as preferring woman over men and em is my baby and I don't want Mor to lead her on like she did to Cas and Az
-NOT ONE PERSON APOLOGIZE BECAUSE OF THEIR SHITTY BEHAVIOR TOWARDS NESTA!! NOT ONE "I'M SORRY FOR BEING JUDGEMENTAL WHILE YOU WERE SUFFERING FROM PTSD AND DEPRESSION "
-i wanted Rhys to fucking get killed he pissed me off too much
-AZ WHAT THE FUCK ON YOUR BONUS CHAPTER
-i love Nesta's and Az's friendship
and that's all..I'll be writing an fanfic to the end and how it plays out
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spaceshipkat · 3 years
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Tbh I feel like it would have been marginally better if riceman had been the ONLY person to know about the pregnancy thing.
Sjm would have found a way to excuse him, like always. She could have shown him sad and depressed (instead of the arrogant, violent and toxic alpha male he is in acosf and the whole series) and justified his silence with "it was trauma! it was shock!" and somehow spin it and say that his mental health issues justify the whole thing (but ONLY when it comes to him; anyone else with mental health issues deserves PUNISHMENT smh). Antis would have seen right through it but it would have been better than what we got.
The fact that literally EVERYONE in feyrug's life knew about it? Everyone but her? And riceman had DISCUSSED the whole thing with other people plenty?
That makes it even more abusive and toxic imo. Cause he's literally telling everyone in feyrug's life to keep info about her own health from her. He's isolating her. He demonized his sister for telling her the TRUTH. He's treating his partner like a child. A child he got pregnant. And then deemed too weak to know and make decisions about her own health and pregnancy.
Fuck the book stans for defending this shit and sjm.
@water-sang-fire has talked a lot about faerug’s age and all the implications thereof, and yes, that’s exactly how riceman is coming across. it’s fucking nauseating. what i can’t get over is how faerug literally tells Cassian that she’s so glad Nesta told her and she’s furious with the Inner Circlejerk for lying to her, and yet Cassian is like “still gonna punish her though” and faerug is like “haha you’re so funny, also my mate is so funny, he’s secretly delighted you’re gonna treat Nesta so badly she’s gonna be suicidal, haha so funny!”
on a writing level, i can tell that sj///m needed to have this scene take place to push Nesta over the threshold to fully recovering, but the way she wrote it is so ridiculously fucked. she tortures herself every day they’re hiking, starves and dehydrates herself, and through it all Cassian is cold and callous toward her, and then she one day starts to cry and Cassian is like “oh no she’s crying uwu” and then she tells him everything she’s feeling and he just...doesn’t respond the way someone should. he doesn’t validate any of her feelings, doesn’t help her work through them, he just hugs her and tells her there’s “nothing broken to be fixed” like that’s a fucking cure-all. and granted, not everyone is the right person to go to for help with suicidal ideation (i myself am conscious of how lucky i was that i had my mom, my best friend, and @faithfire for help) but Cassian is five hundred fucking years old. Nesta can’t be the first traumatized person he’s come across who needs help (hell, he talks a lot about how traumatizing war can be, and i’m sure he’s seen soldiers with severe PTSD need help before) and yet he acts like she’s some cryptid he’s not sure how to approach.
granted, this is all a reflection on sj///m and how little she understands anything, but when a writer chooses certain topics to write about, it’s on them to ensure the rep is good and that the topics are handled with the care they deserve, so even if Cassian didn’t know what to do, sj///m should have (and at the very least, she should have had Cassian tell us he’s not sure what to do but wants to try instead of just making him shrug and say only she can help herself. that kind of attitude is not the way to help someone out of a suicidal episode. that’d have just made my own bout worse). she talks a good talk about how important mental health rep is, but there’s absolutely nothing on the page to back up her assertion
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baepsrae · 3 years
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Hi ~ sorry to bother you but I was just wondering what are your feelings about sj? I don't know much about them and I only see people either writing them all off as problematic assholes or blindly defending them. You said recently that they're not all bad but you definitely criticise them, so I was wondering what your take is?
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Sungmin: loml! He's so talented and funny and pretty like ok can you please calm down king leave something for everyone else!!! He's also really cute and sweet alshsksjsl. He just seems like a genuinely good person tbh. he's just vibing. The PETTINESS of him and saeun on miss trot... Obsessed with his relationship with saeun, they're so good together. they look so in love, and I love how they are just vibin on tiktok!
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Truly an underrated legend. Don't don era... truly an iconic look I loved his hair. People say his fashion sense is awful but honestly who else could pull off a mullet and a visor? just look at these looks:
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You call it bad fashion sense, I call it innovation. Also his friendship with sunny was always cute to me.
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also I know we HATE any "fun" stage where men dress up as women badly, but sungmin was seriously serving looks. before heechul was Gross Predator Confirmed™ a lot of gay kpop stans said fuck suju only heechul and often talked about heechul serving looks in drag.... my man sungmin served much better looks.
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heechul wishes he was as a bad of a bitch! Love this man with my whole bisexual heart. subscribe to liu studio on youtube and stream orgel!!! Also he said one of his goals for 2021 is a second solo so TAKE NOTE AND SUPPORT HIM IF HE DOES!
yesung: racist.
ryeowook: ok but vocals! his version of the high notes in it's you... the way he hit them with absolute ease! chefs KISS!! when I was an elf he was second on my bias list, but now it's zhou mi. soft spot for him though.
siwon: homophobic. his friendship with sungmin... I pretend I do not see it.
kyuhyun: kind of a problematic fave? I mean, I don't really keep up with what he's doing because I don't really listen to their new music and I don't really like his solo stuff but... I honestly have a such soft spot for kyu. I like him. I really do! He makes me laugh! and he's really talented like omg his voice 😍 I have conflicting feelings tho... I know that infamous moment with hara on radio star was scripted and he apologised to her. but. it was horrible to see. And It was the start of the witch hunt against hara and... idk. It just feels weird. I'm not blaming him, that would be absolutely out of pocket and the people who I think are obviously much more accountable are netiziens who bullied and harassed her, her abusive ex and the system that let him walk free. but that fact is netiziens hated her after that moment on radio star. I think he's a good person at heart and it was in a script so there was no malice behind what he said... but I think about it a lot. I don't hold it against him or blame him personally, but I often think about it if I think about him for too long. Hindsight is 20/20. I have conflicted feelings. The reason it took me so long to reply is I really want to convey I don't blame him but also we need to acknowledge and analyse what happened here.
Zhou mi: LOVE him. I really do!! Great vibes from him, he seems like a great guy. Truly an icon. Really deserved better and sm absolutely wasted his talent. Rewind and whats your number were the two best solos from any suju member. I love that he vibes with yoongi.
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shindong: literally just a sexist and racist loser. get a hobby.
Donghae: again, I have a soft spot. he's ok. great dancer and pretty attractive. he's on thin ice... not for anything specific I just... hmm asqkshsdjsnalkak
eunhyuk: I don't hate him but he doesn't pass the vibe check. tell iu I said get well soon girl!
Heechul: his relationship with momo is gross, we should have known considering how weird he was about sohee. jessica too. I despise him.
Leeteuk: oh god. well here we go. I don't like this man. first of all, known misogynist telling suzy to loose weight?? like? fix ur face before you speak to her!!! he literally gives me fight or flight. last person who should have ever been the leader of a group. I was wary of him because of how the members talked about how he was mean to kyu when he first joined the group, but the fact that he literally admitted that one time sungmin, shindong and eunhyuk were teasing him and it was all fun until he suddenly got annoyed and grabbed eunhyuk by the throat... and not even because eunhyuk specifically pissed him off but because he's the least likely to defend himself and because he knows shindong is bigger than him and sungmin wouldn't fucking hesitate bitch... imagine admitting to that! and then he said eunhyuk was so upset he didn't show up tp work later. I don't blame him! that's scumbag behaviour! that just made me very uncomfortable. Also he was blatantly cold towards and excluded sungmin since his engagement was announced, it was fucking weird. I wasn't surprised at all to find out he was messaging girls who are new to the industry and 13 years younger than him, and apparently he was messaging other younger women as well saying shit like "you should know who I am". I'm not saying he's abusive, idk him like that so that would be a big accusation and out of pocket. but from what I can see there's a pattern of targeting people who are like... more vulnerable than him? and I don't like it.
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Past members:
kibum: go girl! give us nothing! interested to see what he brings to masked singer because he like... never sang in suju. glad he's doing stuff and free from sm.
Henry: the violin solo in don't don is iconic! He's racist tho and I don't like him.
hangeng: his solo music is so good. clown mask fucking slaps!!! I'm happy he's happy and I also am relieved that, like sungmin, he's fucking normal and married to a woman the same age as him. Really like him, he passes the vibe check.
Kangin: a terrorist. I despise him. he's not a person he is a list of crimes committed. only think about him when I'm thinking about suju on intimate note talking about how he did NOT pass sungmins vibe check. he's a misogynist and idc about him.
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haus-of-wu · 4 years
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Bonamana (미인아) 10th Anniversary Album Analysis/Rediscovery
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Happy 10th Anniversary to Bonamana / 4jib !
I viscerally remember this album coming out when I was in the 8th grade and using my damn iTunes gift cards to buy the album tracks for my iPod nano. (WTF was streaming in 2010)
Bonamana was the first album of many in SJ’s discography that didn’t have the full lineup of members. Hangeng had departed SM, Kibum had announced a hiatus to focus on acting, and Kangin was starting off what would become SJ’s almost decade-long military rotation era.
We’ve come a long way, and we’re still out here !!
Track analysis and re-reaction below the cut - as a veteran ELF I find that middle school me fixated on certain songs (and was the biggest Ryeowook stan), and then completely forgot about entire other songs, so it’s always a fun time going back down memory lane.
Bonamana (미인아)
Even if you look and look, look and look, look and look There’s no one else but me.
It’s true, true that my feelings don’t have a place to go. You know that I adjusted myself to fit you
honestly the best iteration of the “SJ Funky” sound that started with “Sorry Sorry” imo
an absolute headbanger !! if you aren’t already bobbing your head to the bass line and percussion in the first 10 seconds you are not human
this has just the right tasteful amount of autotune that makes it age a lot better than sorry sorry over the years
i’m sorry but the choreo absolutely fucks especially with kyuhyun going out there being like “you thought i was a main vocal? i’m in this fucking dance break”
re:choreo, it’s understandable that they’ve pivoted to the rock remix of this for super shows bc there’s a squat move they do that is not friendly on the knees at all
if you wanted a club BOP about a guy trying his hardest to figure out how to get a girl’s attention, this is it
donghae doing a magic trick for every music show performance of this, while looking fiercely in character while delivering his line as a man who is hella stressed about what to get the girl as a present
the way ryeowook and sungmin (tenor line !!) exchange lines
this song made me go feral in 2010
No Other
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Hearing you tell me that you love me, I have everything in this world, You & I, You’re so fine, Is there someone like you? I love you Oh, please know it, to me there’s only you, That I stupidly see you As my everything 
that feel-good cute love song that served as the foil to Bonamana
the softest MV !!
just super chill and smile inducing
all the music show performances of this are just...so cute (also featured so many shenanigans like leeteuk yelling HAPPY BIRTHDAY HEENIM/GOOD LUCK SHINEE, and random members playing rock paper scissors in the middle of the performance)
probably has the most evenly split line distributions for the time (each member has their own verse of sorts)
contains one of my favorite hyukjae rap parts - it flows in such a relaxing way
Shake It Up (Remix Version)
Hey get up, (Hey get up) everyone come here (everyone come here) Just shake (all your thoughts) Just shake it up!
your everyday repetitive life, right now shake it up your repeated thoughts of sadness- right now shake it up Are you separated from the world? It all depends on you
SJ said shake it up !
chill club song with the touch of autotune, heavy synth, and weird background “oh OHs” of the time
the predecessor to the electronic chill vibe that Skydive has
they really told us to have fun and enjoy
honestly the song i didn’t realize i’d need in quarantine as i jam out at my desk
All My Heart
The words I still can’t say The words that got stuck in my throat I love you more than anyone else It’s still you and me, me me me me me me me me
In this moment I’m really happy I’m really grateful that you came to me The one who gives everything to me It’s only you and me, me me me me me me just you
a simple guitar instrumental with soothing vocals, a wholesome r&b
composed by LEETEUK AND HENRY? fuck me up fam
as a kid this was just the “nanana nanana na” song (that’s the me me me part of the chorus lmao)
this is the happy song that you’d like wave your lighters to maybe
hyukjae’s been singing “don’t wake me up” for eons
god this song makes me so soft
A Short Journey
My heart that loved you My eyes that looked at you Are still here
Oh baby say goodbye, for a short while goodbye I’ll go back to the place when I once was When I open that door and take one step So that I can stand in front of you who I missed
My heart that loved you My eyes that looked at you Will wait
Kangin going to the military tribute song composed by Donghae and lyrics by Hyukjae? they really had all the rights in 2010
god the lyrics really hit me in my ELF heart. like we really went through a whole decade of military service and said goodbye for now so many times
the opening piano intro? i hate you donghae i really do
hyukjae these lyrics man. why. why you gotta make our hearts hurt like this
another simple instrumental with soothing vocals, but this time it hits you in the feels a bit
if you weren’t listening to the lyrics, this feels like a song you’d watch your parents slow dance to in the house
thanks for triggering the “i miss kangin” hours G O D
Boom Boom
From head to toe you are wrapped with all luxury things Hoo~ so eye-blinding, who would ever dare to touch you?
Twinkle Twinkle Little Star I’m trying to get a hot girl, I’m drawn to her bad look look look am I wrong?
It’s nothing but such a beautiful sin
THE OTHER BANGER IN THIS ALBUM
yeah i feel like 13/14 y.o. me only was here for bonamana and boom boom back in 2010 which is like...pretty valid given the taste of your typical middle schooler in 2010
but literally. if you thought bonamana was about a guy desperate to get the girl, boom boom was legit like “shit she’s hot like sin and hooking up with her might be a mistake for me but oh well wtf why the hell not”
kyuhyun’s line at the beginning “from head to toe/머리부터 발 끝까지” is apparently used in a lot of lyrics, to the point where D&E were like, Bout You’s Korean title is gonna be that, AND it’s gonna be in the chorus. this was totally off-topic.
the whiplash in this album honestly. soft love songs to trying to get girls in the club to i’ll wait for you to finish military service. they have the RANGE
Coagulation
On the window and on my eyes Dew forms, tears form, a small stream is made Where they’re from and how they form over and over even I don’t know The only thing I know is that I just really hurt My formerly burning heart is slowly becoming cold It seems even I don’t know what to say, or how to hold on to you
time for a KRY ballad (can you BELIEVE they are finally having their first whole-ass album in june ??)
break up crying song included with the album of two absolute bangers
just close your eyes and get taken away on the sad rainy day ballad
Your Eyes
I want to erase all of my insufficient former self It seems like someone like me has nothing to give to you
Do you still remember, do you believe that it’s only you for me Do you know how long you can keep me by your side In this large world, there’s only one person (I only want you) Did you know this about me
sad piano r&b time !! brought to you by yesung and kyuhyun only
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kyuhyun’s bridge though
easily a candidate for some drama OST
i feel like this album really just had two sides - party rock central and r&b feels
My Only Girl
Even if I cover my ears I can hear it, even if I close my eyes, I can see it Even if I shut my mouth I keep calling out for you I am stupid I hate how I can’t get over you
we really opened this song with “cause i’m lonely” huh (screams at how applicable this still is for them TEN years later)
i love everything about this song except the chorus
the chorus is very underwhelming
My All Is In You
Even though I’m pretending to smile Without knowing why In truth I want to cry
It seems love is ending like this Before I know it our parting is approaching You say “goodbye” To me, letting you go is still difficult Please give me a little more time I can’t live without you My all is in you
another sad breakup bop why are you guys so good at this genre
the percussion comes in so nicely
little strings in the background that help accentuate the words (chef’s kiss)
KRY really were already yelling not even halfway into this song - perf
we literally are only in the second chorus folks
this song is great, it’s only sin was that it said “rap line you just don’t get lines”, so rip heechul, hyukjae, and shindong
Shake it Up!
the original - way less electro, more acoustic
has a very lo-fi beginning and then it amps up
has some interesting high pitched synth piano twiddling up there
a tad slower than the remix, but not by much if at all
dude the horns coming in behind hyukjae’s rap !! it fucks !
if the remix version’s vibe is people having fun in the club, this one’s vibe is a summer bbq party in the backyard
god i really love the horn line - it gives it such a nice vibe
another point in the “feel good” bucket
In My Dream
She’s walking away Embracing another person My chest’s like it’s being crushed under a heavy weight
I’m dreaming again, right? Cold sweat runs down my body It hurts to dream about things, I hate to remember
I wish I would fall asleep forever like this I wake up with her presence still… although I hope I don’t dream again, Like today, it seems I fall asleep with her presence
piano and string sadness here we go
bring back SJ KRY + donghae + sungmin
this chorus for this song stabs me in the heart every time
i’m mad where’s the MV for the heart-wrenching sad ballad
kings of emotional power vocals
we really are out here singing our hearts out about that ex-girlfriend that haunts us as we try to fall asleep
if they ever perform this all ELF in the vicinity would immediately die
One Fine Spring Day
A warm wind is blowing like it was that night The flowers you lovingly planted have bloomed Before I know it spring has come again I still want to deeply sleep like it’s winter
You are so very far, so very far To be honest I miss you every day Even the very small, very small trivial things make me think of you every day
still laughing the ryeowook brought up bonamana as his favorite album on weekly idol bc it contained his first ever solo track ;kasjf;aksdf king of promoting only himself
this is v soft, v much aligned with the little prince image that wasn’t even in the works yet
the imagery of the lyrics man. cute winter to spring yearning uwus
s o f t e s t
like this is literally the song that inspired every fanfic writer that’s ever written ryeowook as persephone in some greek god au
Good Person
When you laugh I feel good too, even when you say it’s just pretend You bring happiness to the days when I wait for you, the nights when I miss you Even when I’m alone it’s okay if I can just see you I’m always behind you, I’m always looking out for you, but it seems like I have to share
The difference between me and the person who makes you cry is that all I can do is comfort you
this song sounds like something that would be in the opening of an animated show that takes place in a high school
now that i’m looking at the lyrics, this is literally an upbeat sounding song accepting that they’ve been friendzoned and all they can do is support her relationship with the other guy
bittersweet nostalgia bop i guess
Here We Go
cue family/action movie credit music vibes
i don’t have much to say about it - i just isn’t something i’d listen to on the regular
it’s just happy-go-lucky finale type music
it has a really old-school hyukjae/shindong rap verse lmao
vocal line is out here yelling, very on-brand
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battlestar-royco · 5 years
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Hi! I’m curious to know how the antis feel about Tarquin from A/COTAR. He’s my favorite character from either series, and frequently suffers at the hands of the Night Court, and I’ve adopted him as my own and am trying to shield him from being villainized because he doesn’t deserve that shit. I digress. Just curious to know y’alls thoughts on him, because most stans can’t understand why I think he’s far superior to R/hys 🤢 anyway, thank you!
Hello, and thanks for the ask! So I can’t speak for all the antis, but the anti reception of Tarquin is generally more positive than that of Tom Lane or any of the NC characters (excluding M0r). Personally, I consider T/arquin to be one of my favorites in the AC0TAR series, right up there with L/ucien and N/esta. We get to see all the High Lords by the end of the main trilogy, but outside of Rice and Tom, T/arquin is the one we get to know best. I think he’s the most admirable and redeemable of all of them by far. I really wish SJ/M had gotten more into the intrigue and the structure of the Summer Court; they’re too interesting for the amount of page space they got in AC0MAF. First of all, they have T/arquin and C/resseida, literally the two baddest bitches of them all. T/arquin seems like such a genuine and new agent of change, and I think that kind of storyline and POV could have really resonated in our current political climate, had he been in the hands of a better writer. C/resseida also could have been a major player in the AC0TAR court system and a really great balance to T/arquin’s excessively trusting nature. Second, their court is adjusting to a new young High Lord, which could have been really interesting to see from a Summer POV. Third, blood rubies?! I need to know the history of every Summer HL who ever sent blood rubies, who was sent the blood rubies, and what they did to deserve that, ASAP. Please Miss Sarah, let us know.
My main qualms with T/arquin and the Summer Court are more about SJ/M’s decisions than the characters themselves. 1. The white hair and blue eyes. This just has anti-black vibes to me. Why not give them curly dark hair or braids? Why not give them dark eyes? There are of course black people who have straight and light hair and blue eyes, but with the exception of N/ehemia, none of SJ/M’s black characters–in fact, almost none of her characters at all–have curly and/or dark hair. Let them have curly hair, SJ/M, I beg you. 2. The sack of Adriata. Really SJ/M? Not only Ey/llwe but now also Adriata, the two core Token Black^TM cities/cultures, are canonically destroyed by the Big Bad of the series? Yikes.
3. The hypersexualization and exploitation of the Summer Court by the Night Court. I know C/assian destroying a building in Summer is a passing joke for the AC0TAR fandom and it’s the least of the problems present in the books, but it still rubs me the wrong way.  Let’s be real: if an outsider noble fae had destroyed a citadel of the Night Court, especially if it was in Velaris, Rice would have raised hell and it wouldn’t have been a laughing matter. Realistically, it would heighten tensions if not ruin all prospects of peace between the courts, and Rice would enact violence upon Summer. However, it’s presented as just a fun tidbit to make Night seem cool and Summer seem like passive or indifferent recipients of their bullshit. Another egregious part of Night’s treatment of Summer is when Faerug and Rice rob them of the BoB–a timeless artifact–right after T/arquin gives Faerug a precious heirloom. It was very clear that T/arquin was open to working out a treaty, and the time pressure wasn’t impending. There was no need for this entitled, disgraceful, and arguably imperialist act. I also find it problematic that Faerug and Rice are immediately figured as super attractive to the Summer Court while the Summer fae are kind of background angst for the story of Failsand. Really, Faerug and Rice are the ones who need Summer, but by the way Faerug acts, she seems to think it’s the other way around. Faerug (and SJ/M) only sees C/resseida and T/arquin as sexual obstacles for her relationship with Rice instead of as the autonomous and politically significant people they actually are. And finally, I really wasn’t a fan of the direction in which SJ/M took the Summer characters in AC0WAR. I’ve already mentioned the Adriata thing, but it looks especially bad considering that the Night characters assume the position of white saviors and order T/arquin around in his own court without caring about his trauma or his authority. So TL;DR? I really like the Summer fae and they have so much potential, but SJ/M’s centering of the Night Court greatly hurt the story and how cool Summer could have easily been.
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blakeseptember · 5 years
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My cousin recommended SJ/M to me in April. She was thirteen.
I’m pretty close with my cousin. She’s only a year younger than I am, so naturally we’ve been lumped together for everything for our whole lives. It doesn’t help that our mums are those ridiculously close kind of siblings that go for coffee mornings on Sunday afternoon and send each other dog videos: so close, in fact, that they collectively agreed to sent my cousin (lets call her Kate bc I don’t want to use her real name) and I to the secondary school they went to so they could see each other more often. So there we are, in the parking lot after school a few months ago waiting for my aunt to arrive so she can bring us home, when I idly ask Kate what she’s been reading lately. That was the first mistake.
She pulls a copy of ACOTA/R out of her bag with this insanely wide grin, and asks me if I’ve read it, because I consume books at an unhealthy rate and it’s YA fantasy so its right up my alley. I say no and she hands her copy. I accept it. That, my friends, was the second mistake.
The third mistake, obviously, was reading it.
I found it dull. Nothing happened until near the end, which was obviously the most interesting part but also rife with promblematic elements. (Fuck Rhysan/d, by the way. And most certainly not in the way SJ/M want to, more in “let me drop kick your abusive ass out of the atmosphere so you die in space” kind of way.)
I hated how useless Feyr/e was. I hated how Tamlin treated her like a child and withheld information from her. I hated that living in luxury was supposed to be some kind of punishment, especially given how Feyr/e’s feelings toward her family were portrayed. I hated that the villain was introduced so late on that she didn’t really feel all that evil. Sure, she’s bad, but she’s literally only shown up 80% of the way through the book, so how bad can she really be?
Then Rhysan/d, that mouldy bread roll of a man (fuck you SJ/M I’m NOT calling him a “MaLE” it’s so dumb) showed up, and I fucking hated him. I HATED HIM MORE THAN I HATED AMARANTHA. She, at least, had some kind of messed up motivation, but he was just kind of this irredeemable bastard to me. I figured, “maybe he’s one of those side characters who just shows up throughout the series to be a prick every now and then. Nothing wrong with a little bitch who likes to cause trouble,” so you can imagine my disgust after I read the next book. And the next. (Good god, why do I put myself through this?)
Some of the problematic shit slipped by me when I read them, and you know what? That’s okay. I was fourteen when I read them. Hell, I only turned fifteen less than two months ago. It was by sheer luck that I found out about the anti community while scrolling through the Stan tags. I came across that post which is like “SJ/M is amazing and y’all need to stop pointing out that some of it’s bad because she’s a feminist queen uwu” and I naturally got curious, clicked into the anti SJM tag, and voila. I did my research, and now I’m an anti.
So now I need to tackle the issue with my cousin.
She and her friends are the kind of SJ/M fans that call Aelin a badass, want boyfriends like Rhysan/d and are completely oblivious to the romanticized abuse and many, many other issues with the books. My aunt doesn’t know about the content in the books. She doesn’t know what her daughter is reading. I want to tackle that problem and help her explain to Kate that the relationships in To/G and ACOTA/R aren’t “goals,” and that if a guy is treating her like that it’s not romantic, it’s abusive. That one’s my main concern right now because Kate’s pretty innocent compared to a lot of other girls she knows because her parents are really protective, and I don’t want her thinking that abuse is equal to love. I don’t want her to think she’ll be happy with someone who harms her.
So, because I’m in TY and I have less work to do this year and also I hate myself, I’ve decided I’m going to do chapter by chapter reviews of the ACOTAR books. I’m going to give those reviews to my aunt (If I think they’re good enough/clarify enough of the problematic elements. I’ll probably have to star the most problematic parts so it’s clearer what chapter reviews are most important to read) and encourage her to pass them on to the parents of my cousin’s SJ/M loving friends, and I’m going to give them to my local book shops and libraries and I’m going to try and get ACOTA/R removed from YA shelves and moved to adult ones.
It’s going to be my first time trying something like this so it’s not going to be excellent, but what the hell? I’m going to try and so something about about this in my little pocket of the world. (Also I would absolutely love it if people pointed out things I missed (because you KNOW I’m going to miss stuff) and left constructive criticism on each review so I can improve :D)
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seawolvesanddragons · 5 years
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Endgame
--HOLY SHIT what a movie
--if you don’t want spoilers, stop reading
--this is gonna be a mess and out of order probably, not sorry.
--I got one hour of sleep but by god it was worth it
--ok I kind of wished they had kept the Stan Lee Marvel intro for this, that would have been really sweet
--I am SO glad I went to a midnight premiere with at least one other big fan (henceforth referred to as “K.” I didn’t get to go to a midnight or even opening weekend showing of IW and that sucked; the audience type really does make a difference.)
--K and I were so excited and nervous that we started grabbing each other’s hands during the freaking IMAX countdown. The movie hadn’t even started yet.
--Also, IMAX was cool in someways (it really did feel like I was in the spaceship at times) but it also weirdly disproportioned everyone’s bodies, a lot of the time it was like looking at a bunch of Luther’s from UA.
--Ok, Hawkeye losing his whole family? So damn sad. Also kind of took me out of the tragedy just a bit -  the whole “fifty percent” but Hawkeye is the only one of his family to not get dusted?
--Tony and Steve’s reunion was handled so well, like at first they are like “lets just get through this” (and the line “I lost the kid”; my heart cracked) but then they get to the real issue: Tony warned them of this, He and Steve split. And Steve wasn’t there when Tony needed him most. Both are responsible for their actions in CW, and neither are really to blame here, but they realize they could have done better.
--THANK GOD PEPPERS ALIVE
--When they full on killed Thanos I was like wait. what. what is the plot then. Its been five minutes. What.
--”FIVE” K and Me: No..... “YEARS” K and Me: No no no....
“LATER” K and Me: Oh shit
--Thor was a god damm treasure in this movie and anyone who says elsewise can fight me
--So that whole “One in 14 billion chance we win” all depended on...a rat accidentally letting Scott out? Damn. Stephen really was taking a gamble.
--Ok I’m sorry but wasn’t Cassy like 7, maybe 8 in Wasp? It’s been five years why does she look like she’s 16 or 17 if not older? I legit thought it was her mother at first.
--Nat is doing so great trying to keep everything going. I love it, I love how she and Steve support each other, everything about this is good.
--Rhodey and Nebula were the surprise Brotp of this movie and I approve
--Ok let’s be real we all thought that was a doghouse and Tony and Pepper got a dog at first right?
--Oh shit we really are doing time travel aren’t we
--PETER AND TONY
--K and I nearly jumped out of our seats in excitement when we revisited that first Avengers 360 pan
--LOKI. (For a moment I really did think that him disappearing with the stone meant that he was going to be able to show up in future movies, but I was reminded later that the timestreams were fixed by Steve.)
--I really thought they stunt doubled Natalie Portman until we got up close, like damn they did a good job keeping that under wraps
--I spent this whole movie waiting for Harley to show up; I want you to know that
--Revisiting these points in the past was so nostalgic, K and I kept being like “ohhhhhh yesssss”
--watching Starlord’s dance from the outside was hilarious “so basically he’s an idiot” Rhodey is so done with everyone except Nat, Nebula and Tony
--OK the 2012 flashback was cool but it also just made me want an entire season of Avengers:Covert Ops because it was so fucking smooth
--For a moment, I got my details mixed up and thought that the date and place Tony mentioned to get the tesseract and Pym’s forumla was when Bucky killed his parents and guys I was terrified and ready at the same time.
--K and I could not stop moving around out of antsy anxiety the whole damn movie; good thing we were in the front
--We literally clutched each other’s arms when Thanos was beating the shit outta Steve because we really thought this was gonna be it for him and we were NOT READY
--Legit the moment Thor dropped his hammer I started muttering “Cap pick it up pick it up Cap Cap Cap pick it up” like a manic religious fanatic. K wasn’t bothered, but I felt bad for the guy on my left - until he started checking his phone every 5 minutes. Its 3 am dude, who the fuck is texting you
--I SCREAMED when Sam called. Thankfully, so did the rest of the theater
--K and I did not stop clapping for about ten minutes straight and my hands still hurt when I got home an hour later
--Steve: Avengers...
The whole damn theater: ASSEMBLE
--that scene though. We didn’t get the full 360 redo like I hoped for, but that aieral scan of EVERYONE was just. So amazing. Beautiful cinema. Those colors oh my god
--Look I clapped, exclaimed/shouted, and had my heart swell pretty much every single time the characters returned, it was an emotional mess. K cried. If my tear ducts weren’t removed by the Empire, I would have too
--PETER PARKER FINALLY GOT HIS HUG
--I’m vaguely aware of yelling “YES QUEEN” when Scarlet Witch showed up and kicked Thanos to Knowhere and back. It was either me or K. Or maybe both.  
--We went in a group of mostly women (in a theater of mostly guys) and we screamed SO LOUDLY at that badass woman warriors scene
--doesn’t make up for how angry I was that after killing Gamora, the Gaurdians’ one female (Mantis doesn’t really count for me yet, she just joined them in my head) they went and killed one of the few female superheroes, the sole female original avenger, and one of two females in this mission. I ranted about that under my breath for a long, long while
--I am going to need to rewatch that fight scene a good thousand more times because I just could NOT keep up with everything
--K yelled “ITS OVER ITS FUCKING OVER” when Captain Marvel showed up
--I AM IRON MAN *SNAP* look our theater rioted ok.
--WTF
--look there really was a moment there where I whispered “wait...are they giving us a happy ending” and K was like “no way” and then they did the face close up and GOD DAMMIT
--Ok look I REALLY thought Tony was going to be safe! I was CONVINCED he would be safe! I was like “Ok, Steve is 100 percent going to die fighting” but I was SO SURE they wouldn’t kill off Tony. Maybe he would get really injured. He absolutely would retire afterwards, for good. But they wouldn’t kill him off. Not after they intwined him into the Spiderman movies, and as many other movies as they could. They built this franchise off of him. He was, if not everyone’s favorite, a top tier player. I was convinced Marvel wanted to keep him alive so that, if they were ever worried about a movie turn out, they could throw Tony in there for a few scenes. They wouldn’t kill him. Absolutely not. Steve was gonna die fighting. OH DAMN WAS I WRONG
--look my optimism played me and after being a GOT fan for so many years I really should have known better
--oh hell they did NOT make such a big deal about Harvey coming back just to throw him in at the funeral screw y’all
--Thor joining the Guardians was an unexpected gift god bless Hemsworth
--Steve’s ending was so sweet but I do kind of wonder what Bucky is gonna do now. Stay in Wakanda? Partner with Sam? Oh damn I want a Bucky, Sam, and Tchalla team up movie, with Wanda popping in occasionally to be like “you idiots need a hand?”
--I’m devastated about Tony and Natasha, and I feel for Wanda, but honestly good call not bringing Vision back outta all the options; I truly even forgot about him till Wanda started going after Thanos.
--look we clapped so much for the original six but everyone stood up and cheered for RDJ (which, yes SJ/Natasha also deserved but the dude STARTED this franchise)
--This movie emotionally ruined me and I want to watch it six more times today.
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emmelfish · 6 years
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Hardimos, what the hell are you doing here, hellhound?
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Hardimos: There’s gonna be like five small kids here in a matter of days, combine that with the good foliage here and you got yourself a werewolf pardy.
Urgh – aside from the fact that this werewolf is genuinely following the Brokes around Pleasantview all the way to the Dreamers’ residence (really not that far), Dirk is doing well in Science, and somebody may have left Darren a dream date bouquet.
Welcome to a series I like to call ‘Darren Standing Stiffly At Things’. Exhibition coming soon at the Broke Dreamers Art Gallery... whenever they can afford to buy an art gallery.
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Motionless when it’s great news, or...
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... terrible news. Wow, so that scuppers the idea of a nice wedding at a community lot then huh. I guess we could take this ragtag group of the few people who ‘like him enough’ on... some kind of outing?
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To the Pleasantview Fishing Pond!
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Even vampires like Jennail Tricou like to get in some late-night fishing.
Jennail: I do a bleh and scare all the fish out of the pond.
You do indeed, Jen!
Jennail: It’s not like I even need to eat them, it’s just the satis –
Hold it. This isn’t about you Tricou, you’ll get your turn. Onto Daz’s Dream Outing:
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Oh John Burb. In earning that silver gardening badge with all your Nature simming you totally neglected fishing, and are legitimately terrible at it.
John: This’ll never do when I’m trying to impress my wife, dog, cat and three kids on our camping trip to Three Lakes.
I never okayed that, John. Taking Jennifer ‘High Heels’ Burb and a feline animal that can’t live without her Anthropologie pillows camping is tantamount to spousal abuse and animal cruelty.
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I do love taking sims to community lots just to see who the hell rocks up. As well as Dreamer’s gang of ‘friends’, we ran into none other than my boy Viddy Curious, Everyone’s Favorite Grandma Isabella Monty...
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... and motherfreaking John Mole of all people!
John Mole: I’m gathering intel on everybody at this pond.
And doing an excellent job of being inconspicuous you are, John Mole. You just look so very, very normal.
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Darren: I’m gonna hang this on my wall and call it art.
Dirk: Could you please make sure you cover it in formaldehyde and vacuum seal it first?
Cowboy Peter Ottomas, you’re everywhere!
Peter: Ah like fishin’! And after witnessing that proposal in TGI Fri – uh in Oresha Family Dining, wanna see how things go with these crazy kids.
Well, for that you’d have to be back at the Dreamer residence where Darren unceremoniously left his fiancée. And on that note...
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🎵 Celebrate good times, come on!
Dirk: *retches* Does this nightmare EVER END.
Not when there’s so much dancing to be done! Also, are you retching because of the parental public display of affection? Or is it because Natasha Una has headbutted you in the chest and winded you.
Natasha: IT’S HOW I MAKE FRIENDS.
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It’s sweet really. Darren’s little group of friends have made quite the little party for him. But when, pray tell, have you ever seen a group of real-life humans randomly dance around a makeshift art studio without the involvement of drugs or alcohol?
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Even Natasha Una is joining the dance-off... awkward as she looks about that.
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I knew it! There’s the culprit. Clearly they’ve all been at the Simslice Beer. Enjoy savoring that cold one while you can, Darren, because – 
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– your new family have arrived, more specifically, The Twins from Hades (dang, now I can’t call Loki and Circe’s kids that).
Skip Jr: The road is a most adrenaline-inducing place to sing myself a nursery rhyme.
Somebody had the patience to teach you the whole thing without punting you over the Pleasantview bridge, SJ? I’m amazed.
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Susie: I’m so excited! And I just can’t hide it! I’m about to lose control –
PLEASE DON’T lose control, with a personality like yours this building will be on fire within seconds.
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BRANDI!!!
Brandi: What? It’s just one beer, besides, the yeast is good for the babies.
On what planet – hey, if it was Guinness you might have a point when it comes to iron and nutritional value and whatnot but...
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... look what it’s doing to your poor betrothed, he’s drinking it through his fucking eye for pity’s sake.
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Dirk’s a braver man than most, actively engaging these nightmare children in play with zero prompting. Hey I wonder if somewhere Skip Broke’s ghost is laughing its translucent ass off because his parting gift to the family was a pair of literal demons in embryo form.
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All you Dirk stans out there, I hear your hearts fluttering at this display of adorable. Don’t worry, while I don’t know whether he’ll end up with Lilith or some complete random, he will be blessed with sprogs. We gotta spread those awesome Dreamer genes far and wide.
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Fair play Beau, you got the glow! Spiky haired music man is impressed! Max enthusiasm as a child, where on earth does he go from here?
Beau: Rockstardom!
Steady on, let’s just see how things go. You’re gonna grow into a Pleasure sim so it’s either the Slacker career for you or... dates. Millions of dates. Ever feel like the Pleasure aspiration got massively sidelined when it came to LTWs? Why not throw the Gamer or Entertainment career in there or something? ‘Hey you can reach the top of this lazy career or, essentially be a watered down Romance sim. THAT’S WHAT YOU GET for wanting to play on the couch and take bubblebaths.’
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Is Skip Jr. laughing at Daz’s newly hairy legs because I done a overlay? You’ll want your own someday, sunshine. Meanwhile I have a huffing pregnant Brandi jumping rope somewhere in the background because during her last pregnancy she ate when she wasn’t hungry (probably because she was carrying insatiable hellspawn) and her fat token has only just kicked in. I like my sims curvy, but girl rolled the want, gotta give girl what she wants!
(I hope to heavens Marla Biggs, Monica Bratford or Jane Stacks never roll that want. I’ll just ignore them if they do.)
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The father and son that carpool together, get promoted together! Dirk’s getting that Medicine career LTW on track nice and early, and Darren’s paintings take too bloody long to paint so he went straight into the Art career. Did I ever tell you he rolled a want to ‘Quit Job’ before his first day?! I nearly falcon punched the computer screen.
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And the next day, we get Dirkles promoted again because teenage careers are easy as crap to reach the top of. There ya go Dirk, at least now you get another scholarship, moneylover!
Dirk: I’m just happy to be helping people.
Stop being so perfect.
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It’s another Veronaville drive-by! Living for Beau’s casual glance while taking out the trash like a boss.
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Here you get a little peep at what I’ve done with my Puck. The version I’m opting for is a whiny ‘I JUST WANT TO BE NORMAL’ fairy teen who covers up all traces of his supernatural loveliness, much to his parents’ chagrin. I picture his little sis as the total opposite, rocking up to school with her wings and ears all out giving no shits whatsoever.
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What the deuce?! Beau, do you have some kind of sonar for Veronaville residents? It’s like Lucy being Pied Piper to Viper Canyon boys all over again.
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Rain concerns Hal. Heck, life concerns Hal. And it’d concern you if you had to live under the same roof as Albany Capp.
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What in the world – Hal THIS ISN’T YOUR HOUSE, have some dignity!
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Hal: 🎵Clean up clean up Everybody everywhere Clean up clean up Everybody do your share
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Whawhawha – wait – DON’T LISTEN TO HIM! I had that all set up for the long-awaited backyard wedding, Puck what are you doing!?
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Puck: Takin’ out the trash, V-Ville style!
THE CAKE HADN’T EVEN GONE BAD PUCK, GTF home.
Puck: I don’t want to go home, Hermia and Mercutio will make me lie between them while they do weird stuff to each other again.
I care not. It’s good character-building for the future story I have in mind for you.
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Darren looks so stoked about being sick with the flu. Oh no wait! He got promoted again in one of the easiest careers in christendom. Hahaha, oh Ophelia. ‘Things have been pretty hectic for me’ – like two babies, a wedding and another two babies in a matter of days hectic? Or Johnny bringing you the soda with the caffeine instead of the decaf like you asked hectic. I love your old soul lady, but also, go hang with your age appropriate pals. 
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Darren taking the not-standing-up advice pretty literally there while surrounded by gaming Veronavillians. Well, at least they’re doing something relatively normal right now.
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You see what stupidity Darren’s sickness has brought? Brandi’s now having to make Grandma’s comfort soup in her wedding finery, with Beau providing the soundtrack.
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‘Well at least you didn’t rent yours at a store called It’s Not Too Late!’
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Darren: So in my Nature hobby explorations, I’ve really been getting into fish lately as well as leafs –
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Brandi: Darren, I love you, but if you don’t hurry up and finish that soup so we can get married without you technicolor yawning everywhere and sneezing on the cake I’m gonna go full Hormonal Bridezilla.
Next time, I promise, the knot will be tied, the toddlers will age, and maybe, just maybe, the Broke-Dreamer twins will drop. Ciao for now!
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cinnaminsvga · 6 years
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zee, drop some of your fav mutuals @'s! ❤️
OH WOW that’s such a broad question, but i guess i’ll just @ the people i actually talk to because if i just @’ed all my lovely mutuals, this would take FOREVER hhhhh so these are the people who own a piece of my heart:
@ediblesuga​ - OKAY so this girl… this girl is literally my first kpop stan friend??? caitlin doesn’t frequent tumblr as often as she did before, but i pretty much talk to her everyday about stupid random shit, and she’s just??? UGH soft hours but i could literally talk to her about anything on the planet. we both understand each other so much and i think if i ever deactivated (which IM NOT but just sayin), she would be one of the people i’m sure i’ll still talk to. if you see this caitlin, perhaps i love you ;(
@oppamansae​ / @rbuns​ / @yminie​ - HAHA okay so i had to put all three of these crackheads into one category because THEY ARE LITERALLY MY CREW and i couldn’t separate them if i could ;o; i only became friends with them fairly recently, but i genuinely can’t imagine life without them at this point. our chat is filled to the brim with memes and shade that it’s hard to NOT have fun with them. plus, all of them are just such??? talented writers??? they’re all pretty much churning out fics at mach speed whereas i, a cryptid, only know how to hibernate (there’s an inside joke that i’m pretty much jungkook in the gc… it’s Bad) but YEAH i love these three losers 😔💞
@gukyi - GUYI MY MONSTER FIC QUEEN!!! geez, our friendship is kinda fucking weird because we had been mutuals for like??? a million months??? and we only started talking recently because we just realized “hey uhhhh we’ve been following each other for so long??? let’s talk???” and YEAH i super love guyi because she’s so talented (AND SHE’S SO SMART I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS GIRL’S MIND) and it’s so great to have met her ;( lov u guyi
@yoongihime - HHHHH SAS god i love this girl??? she’s such an inspiration to me as a writer and she’s just such a chill presence to have around!! she’s just someone i could talk to if i needed some cool down time because she just has that aura of someone who has her shit together. love you sas!! even though we’re both super busy and haven’t talked as much nowadays :(
@kittae - EVAAAAAA!! she’s actually such a funny person?? like, the reason we started talking in the first place was because she saw one of my tags for a yoongi fantaken and the fact that she shares my humor is a big bonus!! i’m lowkey highkey praying for her rn because she’s FINALLY gonna get the opportunity to see bts (CONGRATS EUROPEAN ARMIES) and i was kinda scaring her a few days ago but DONT WORRY DUDE!! IM HOLDING A PRAYER CIRCLE FOR YOU!! I BELIEVE IN YOU
@gimmesumsuga - STEPH, WHOSE BIRTHDAY ALSO HAPPENS TO BE TODAY!!! (everyone, please head to her tumblr and wish her many many birthday wishes!! she deserves your love!!) she’s another one of my newer mutuals, and she really feels like such a calming presence ;o; she’s the older sister i never had?? whereas i’m always in a constant state of screaming, she seems to always be so chill and it helps me calm down too!! she’s such an inspiration to me because??? the fact that she’s been writing a fic for so long now (with SO MANY FUCKING CHAPTERS OMG) is just such??? a mystery to me??? HOW DOES SHE DO IT!! well, the answer is: she’s amazingly talented and i love her. 
MORE MUTUALS WHO OWN MY HEART: 
@btsstuffers (a super cute bean!!) // @sugachki (SUNNY IS THE CUTEST AND KINDEST PERSON IN THE WORLD I LOVE HER) // @catandlovelyfish (SJ… one of my safe havens on this hellsite!!) // @yuklown (ai is super cute :(( i see her post a lot and she likes my personal posts which is… wow truest mvp HHHH) // @cyphermyg (DANI omg she’s so sweet ilysm) // @gukbae (luna… LUNA i love you thanks for being the kindest soul) //
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Found a stan's post about what Sjm said at her Houston stop regarding ToG and Acotar characters meeting.Just so much bullshit: "Rhys would win in a fight against Maeve because Maeve is a “piece of crap” who only fights for her own selfish wants and Rhys would fight for something he loves and therefore have a better reason to fight", "Aelin would spend the entire time staring at Rhys because even though she has Rowan who is also beautiful, Rhys is just that beautiful", "everyone would love Rowan"
Houston anon, if you wanna watch the whole thing, TheTruthAboutBooks made a vlog on yt 
uhhh did they say they’d have booths for fanart? 
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i freely admit i’ve eaten a lot of airheads today, but…i’m nauseous. 
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what the diddly dong heck is this. according to the vid, you can take a pic with them, but no idea if you can keep them. 
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why are they screaming
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as someone from AZ, why is all she remembers of it cowboy boots? 
and imma paraphrase the questions she’s asked, so. question #1: 
McGee: you’ve been writing t0g since you were 16, how do you feel, what’s going through your head? 
sj/m: writing k0a was bittersweet and fun. when i was 16, all of this was a crazy dream (she has been saying this literally everywhere. i mean she even made it a hashtag on insta today). “when i went to college i was a creative writing major” uhhh where??? 
interlude for a brief thanks that does sound sincere, at least. 
and now she’s saying that on Tuesday she asked if anyone had read the book, a teenager said yes, and sj/m proceeds to, uh, very snarkily reenact it with a raised index finger (terrible quality, i’m sorry; it’s at 11:55 in the vid)
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christ you guys she’s been answering this question for eons i want it to stop, especially bc right now she’s talking about getting to write the final scenes of a book she’s been working on since she was a teenager. we know the drill. 
okay wait now she’s saying when t0g was bought fantasy (yes, fantasy, not ya fantasy) hadn’t taken off and had just one publisher say yes to t0g. everyone else rejected it and i have a feeling they don’t regret that in the slightest. 
oh my god she’s still talking. the author moderating the event (Katharine McGee) hasn’t said one word since that first question. 
she just asked if there are any other aspiring writers in the ground, and then said that “if i can do it, you can do it” and i’m cackling. and getting published is “a long road” and that wasn’t a tornado, it was just me sighing. (today was a shitty day in terms of publishing where i’m concerned, so yeah)
and now she’s talking about how the book was going to be longer than 992 pages, originally 1008 pages. she gets a call from her editor, who says “the book is too long” and sj/m replies “you can’t do this to me EVERY WORD AND EVERY COMMA IS EXACTLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE” (emphasis my own) OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD @longsightmyth​
and apparently her editor said “we have to find a way to make the book shorter without cutting anything from it” and sure, janet. and christ on a bike the entire team at blooms worked around the clock to get the book to the printers in two days, or it wouldn’t have been printed in time for release. they bumped up the text a little on the chapter header, condensed chapters through the formatting so hanging paragraphs between chapters would fit on the previous page.so cutting out one whole page, basically. 
sj/m: so they managed to cut it down to nine hundred and ninety–”
audience: “980″
sj/m: nine hundred and ninety–” 
audience: “980″
sj/m: “whatever it is!” *waves hand*
i’m now at 16:53 and McGee has finally spoken since sitting down. 
McGee: “who knew eight pages could be so important”
sj/m: “i have no idea” (i’m typing this on my laptop but i’d have the upside down smiley here on my phone bc the tone here is that)
WE’VE MADE IT TO QUESTION #2 (and i’m paraphrasing again)
question #2: 
McGee: i want to go back to what you were saying about writing scenes that you thought of as a teenager and reaching the end of the series is so emotional. did anything change, take any unexpected turns, or is this truly the ending that you foresaw at age 16?
guys i’m sorry i can’t sit through her answer bc if is basically a reworked version of everything i wrote above and everything she has said umpteen times (all about fictionpress, to get this book published she had to rewrite new things, treat the first version as a completely separate book, start over with a blank page, blah blah blah i really don’t give a fuck, janet moving on)
i’m not sure if she mentioned this in the other events, but she’s explaining how she wrote ratalien fanfic. 
question #3:
McGee: was it hard for you when the first two books came out and the readers were all excited trying to ship–
and yes, sj/m did cut her off. McGee jumped in to ask question #3 and here’s sj/m while McGee is asking the question
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and now she’s talking about tambourine and riceman. so. 
she’s talking about some animal that went extinct from Costa Rica? “go vote and save the environment” and now she’s explaining where she got the ending for k0a from (the mountains and the sun and she started crying) worth noting she said she went to Costa Rica in 2013, thereby getting the ending of k0a in 2013. 
guys i want to donate my ears to science as well as my eyeballs: 
sj/m: alien never did what i wanted her to do except doing rowboat, if you know what i mean (emphasis not my own)
i just laughed out loud at sj/m: “please let alien get me to this ending that i want, if she survives.” one of the biggest surprises was getting alien to the ending that she wanted. 
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question #4:
McGee: i love what you said about aelin, i feel like she has literally grown up alongside you, or you’ve grown up alongside her, she’s such a fun character bc she’s vulnerable and strong and she’s not afraid to be both badass and very girly at the same time
(you guys know my thoughts about the ridiculousness of still complimenting alien for being badass and girly like the two are not mutually exclusive and no longer unique character traits can we stop now kthxbai)
McGee continued: how has she rubbed off on you, are there any traits of aelin that have become traits of sarah
she’s nodding along while McGee talks here:
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sj/m: her love of reading, her love of binge-eating chocolate in bed, oh my god she’s now off on another tangent about getting started in publishing again and before she had meetings she’d tell herself “my name is sjm and i will not be afraid” omg so deep wow
so now we know why she made Lysandra a snow leopard (yes this is my assumption): she has a leopard ring and her leopard shirt bc you can never have too much leopard on leopard
so with alien and Lysandra and all the ladies in this series, they’re all strong in different ways, elide can’t gut you the way alien can, she has her own strength (intelligence and kindness), then Manon (her favorite) came into her life at a time she needed a character to identify with, Manon’s journey is one of her favorite things she’s ever written. 
aaaaaaaand a side story wherein she explains how Manon appeared in her head and saw Manon in her first scene in h0f after music and i’m snoring (and then another piece of music where she saw a scene in k0a and began sobbing but she doesn’t say which scene)
and now she’s talking about how thick the books are. someone says all the books should be the same size on the shelf and sj/m says “look at Harry Potter! whose rule is that? it’s a dumb rule” (claims she said it “i understand but no”–emphasis not my own)
OH MY GOD SHE’S EXPLAINING HOW SHE’S NEVER CRIED MORE IN A SCENE IN K0A AND GUYS I AM SO BEYOND DONE SHE’S JUST REPEATING HERSELF IN NEW WAYS I WANT DEATH
McGee: i love how all your women are strong in different ways, even Kaltain, characters who start one way and then their story seems expected and it ends in such a different place
congrats, McGee, you just described writing a character arc (i apologize for the snark but ugh)
McGee continued: which brings me to the dedication of this book, do you want to talk about that at all, there might be zero people in the audience who’ve read k0a yet, what do you want to say to them before they start reading? 
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what would you call this expression? grimace? “hOw DaRe”? 
and now she’s talking about the dedication, which we all know my thoughts on (i’ll spare you from another repeat bc i, unlike sj/m, try not to say the same things over and over again)
every time a book came out her parents would open the book and ask why it wasn’t dedicated to them and she wanted to wait to dedicate the last book to them, so. (she thought the dedication would be a spoiler but “ladies are gonna get shit done,” “take on the man,” wah wah) and she’s mentioned ac0tar again. 
HOLY SHIT SHE JUST ASKED MCGEE WHO SHE DEDICATED HER BOOK TO I AM SHOOK. “aw that’s so sweet, i don’t have a sister so i can’t dedicate it like you can” (yes i’m paraphrasing again)
and she’s brought out Taran. he’s cute and all and oh my god “i can hear a baby crying and go ‘eh i don’t care he’s not my baby’ but then i hear my baby” and blah blah blah
we’ll end this with Taran bc he’s cute:
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