In the book Yigrett and Jon’s relationship is much more dubcon so it’s not hard for me to see how Kit got to that thinking. (Though in the book, I’m not sure Jon IS attracted aggressive women as much as confidence/strength.) I think Sansa is the proverbial balance. Sansa is confident and has learned to assert herself but she also validates Jon as a person, cares for him, protects him while not being afraid to confront him on his mistakes. Thanks for responding!
Anon, I am so sorry. I thought I had responded to all of my asks and yet there yours sat. If you're still around, please accept my deepest apologies.
I confess I have not yet ventured past book 2 so I have no idea how their relationship goes, but I will say it seemed a tiny hint of dubcon in that cave scene in the show, in the beginning but only for a moment. So I can see it for sure. And I think the show played up on Kit's and Rose's natural chemistry to help make it something on its own if that makes sense.
I agree wholeheartedly with you about Sansa and how she regards him and treats him. Ygritte had his back as long as it served her interests. I'm not saying she didn't love him but when he chose something else over her, then it was game on and only her feelings for him made her hesitate before she was going to kill him. And she was going to kill him if Olly hadn't killed her first. Jon's whole reaction in that scene (and Kit's performance) confirmed it I believe.
And the funniest thing is, while Dany and Ygritte are different in some ways, one similarity they share is that it's all about them in the relationship and the minute Jon chooses (or appears to choose) someone (like family) or something else over that, even if it's for the right reason, then Jon's in mortal danger.
Whereas with Sansa, she actually wants to protect him and keep him with the Pack. Yes, she wants safety but not at the cost of any of her family, and she absolutely considers him to be her family. That's why when Sansa antis say all she wanted was power and Dany stans say she only wanted to kill Dany, I just laugh. Because they really don't understand her showverse character and they're looking at it through a tainted lens (their favoritism of Dany or hatred of Sansa). As you said, she asserts herself, sure, but she also respects Jon, validates him, and wants to protect him. She's a very balanced character and a positive for Jon, romantically or not.
And even though I don't know book!Jon, I agree with you and I don't think Jon was attracted to aggressive women in the show either. I think you're right, it was all about confidence and strength.
I hope you have a great weekend, Anon. Sorry again!
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if any non-palestinians, especially in ‘the west,’ especially in positions of bodily safety, especially especially whites, are still feeling hopeless and lost about the genocide, may i offer, as gently as possible... get over it. your body is safe. you have been told over and over and over exactly what you can do to help, in exhaustive detail according to your specific social and political position. find out what you should do and do it if you can. if you can’t, that’s on you. find something you can do. stop asking palestinians to tell you what to do; take what is already given. you can find the instructions that have already been so explicitly left for you. you are an adult. your job is to keep moving. you are not allowed to be hopeless — that is a betrayal of everything the palestinian community and its supporters stand for. keep moving. don’t let anyone tell you that anti-zionist means anti-semite. don’t let anti-zionists around you become anti-semites. don’t let islamophobia stand. know that propaganda works and it’s working on you right now. keep moving. you are an adult. your life is yours to care for — that means finding the support you need, which also means knowing the boundaries and needs of those supporting you. you aren’t special. you aren’t alone. keep moving. you are not a hero. you are safe. you have agency. there is nothing you can do that can’t be done by someone else while you recharge. you are part of a collective; no one is looking directly at you. do what you can, and if you can do nothing, make your peace with that. palestine has no time for your shame or your guilt. feel these feelings when they come to you and then move through them.
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love when men cry about body hair bc "it's hygiene" and yet 15% of cis men leave the bathroom without washing their hands at all and an additional 35% only just wet their hands without using soap. that is nearly half of all men. that means statistically you have probably shaken hands with or been in direct contact with one of these people.
love when men say that women "only want money" when it turns out that even in equal-earning homes, women are actually adding caregiver burdens and housework from previous years, whereas men have been expanding leisure time and hobbies. in equal-earning households, men spend an average of 3.5 hours extra in leisure time per week, which is 182 hours per year - a little over a week of paid vacation time that the other partner does not receive. kinda sounds like he wants her money.
love that men have decided women are frail and weak and annoying when we scream in surprise but it turns out it's actually women who are more reliable in an emergency because men need to be convinced to actually take action and respond to the threat. like, actually, for-real: men experience such a strong sense of pride about their pre-supposed abilities that it gets them and their families killed. they are so used to dismissing women that it literally kills them.
love it. told my father this and he said there's lies, damned lies, and statistics. a year ago i tried to get him to evacuate the house during a flash flood. he ignored me and got injured. he has told me, laughing, that he never washes his hands. he has said in the last week that women are just happier when we're cooking or cleaning.
maybe i'm overly nostalgic. but it didn't used to feel so fucking bleak. it used to feel like at least a little shameful to consider women to be sheep. it just feels like the earth is round and we are still having conversations about it being flat - except these conversations are about the most obvious forms of patriarchy. like, we know about this stuff. we've known since well before the 50's.
recently andrew tate tried to justify cheating on his partner as being the "male prerogative." i don't know what the prerogative for the rest of us would be. just sitting at home, watching the slow erosion of our humanity.
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for me at least, theres always been a really stark divide in the 'child character is the main antagonist' sort of stories.
on one hand. theres stories that rely on the shock factor of a child being evil, because we're supposed to believe that kids arent capable of that sort of thing. i guess its supposed to be frightening but the novelty always wears off really quickly for me.
i think 'a child is the villain' always lands most successfully for me when a kid is given power beyond their years (either by adults around them or otherwise supernatural/societal forces) and then everyone is floored when they arent exactly responsible with that power. and sometimes theyre even selfish! not because that kid is evil, but because theyre a kid.. acting like a kid would in their situation.
it means that any sort of story that follows requires a protagonist to reason with someone who may not even understand the harm theyre doing, or worse - not have the life lived to understand why they should care in the first place. and also, i think watching what happens when u have an destructive force seeking comforts that any child deserves doing whatever they can to have those things is (to me) much more interesting than 'child who is fucked up and evil for no reason but being born that way actually'
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Trying to learn that it’s not my responsibility to create or maintain harmony in the lives of those I care about. They are allowed to have difficulties in their lives and struggles in their relationships with others and it’s not something that I need to ‘fix.’ I am not responsible for their happiness or peace. Their struggles do not make me a failure. All I can control is how I interact with them.
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