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batfleckgifs · 2 days

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─ Detective Comics #1084 (2024)

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zacksnydered · 6 months

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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) Dir. Zack Snyder Written by Chris Terrio and David Goyer

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freesketchgo · 1 month

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Messy sweaty haired Bruce (fanart comic detail)

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quietlyrebellious01 · 2 days

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Okay, but hear me out, what if Batman V. Superman was Superman annoying The Bat into friendship.

#sleep? what's sleep #crack fic idea #batman v superman #been watching the live action films.#not a huge fan tbh #but I watched lego batman to make up for it #Like first of all Clark is supposed to be Jewish. Fight me on that #the christian vibes in these movies are so uncomfortable #Second of all when I sit down for a superhero movie I expect nice people saving cats #and maybe brooding a little #if it's batman #superman #Batman #lets admit it #it'd totally be suberbat #superbat

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frownyalfred · 9 months

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I am hoping you can help me better understand something about my Zach Snyder feelings, because I know you have enjoyed his work.

I have conflicting feelings and I THINK it comes down to a different imagery language and some unnamed thing in his storytelling. It's mostly the unnamed thing I'm trying to ID.

When I describe broadly the plots, character motivation (obviously as I understand them), and events, I find myself very interested in his movies and what they have to say. Then I rewatch and I don't feel the same way. It feels dark (desaturation or whatever that filter is called), overly dramatic in a way that feels cartoonist or silly instead of meaningful, or boring and slow. There are some engaging moments some that are action some that are pretty or funny. However, few that move/engage me.

I know people often love or hate Snyder but I mostly feel his movies exist, have a few interesting elements but overall if they weren't about characters I was interested in, I just wouldn't watch. I don't hate or love it. I don't think it's the greatest or the worst.

Example of a storytelling concept that I get and liked in theory but not execution. The Martha, why did you say that name moment. Snyder is connecting Bruce to Clark's "humanity" in a way that hits Bruce in a place where he is always vulnerable and is primal/basic. When people mock this scene I have the urge to defend because I understand (in my way) what he was going for, but I can't because at no point in watching or rewatching that scene do I feel that. Even though he rehashed the Wayne's death in the beginning, then connects back to it during their fight about what his parent's taught Bruce. It still FEELS out of place and "falsely" dramatic.

That's all I can think to give as an example and not make this longer (sorry this is long). But if my descriptions click something for you as a writer and fan of Snyder, please let me know. I just don't know what it is about his storytelling and it's annoying to not understand why there is this disconnect.

Thank you for your patience, if you even get thru this, LOL.

I'm not a film major and I am definitely no expert, but I've been thinking about this ask. I agree with a lot of what you brought up, though it is hard to describe what that exact disconnect is with Snyder's films, and you'll get a million different opinions depending on who you ask.

To me, Snyder's DC films always feel like movies that were excellent plots on paper wrapped around a series of interesting and awe-inducing visuals and scores. There are scenes he does well -- one of my favorites being the initial scene in BVS where Bruce runs into the Battle of Metropolis -- almost because they feel like a separate, isolated moment in his script. There are scenes that drag, exposition dump, and feel dark and strange.

There seems to be a disconnect between him, the writer, and him, the director. He's good at both, don't get me wrong -- but there's something missing in between.

People on reddit will tell you the problem with BVS, at the end of the day, is all the plot holes or the cheesy dialogue. I mostly disagree. Especially after seeing Oppenheimer recently, I think Snyder struggles with building and maintaining the pace of his plot and the emotions he's trying to cultivate in his viewers. Continuity is key -- scenes building up on each other, revealing new layers of meaning and importance, leaving viewers guessing only on the least-obvious plot points.

He has all the pieces -- decent dialogue, powerhouse actors, amazing CGI, a script most people wouldn't laugh at on paper -- but they don't quite form a whole.

I did a quick review of some the things I like about BVS, thinking through this ask, and I think it's pretty revealing that most of those things are pieces, not overall themes.

The Battle of Metropolis flashback

Ben Affleck visually as Bruce Wayne

Lex's scenes with the Senator

The score

Kryptonite/Training scene

Lex's entry into Zod's ship

Diana

Bruce at the fundraiser

Warehouse fight scene

Alfred's dialogue

Lakehouse shots

Knightmare scene

As for the Martha scene, my inclination is that it's rarely out of place or strange when written correctly. In fics, I've seen it done very well. But Snyder doesn't use it for what it is -- a climax of Bruce Wayne's anger and misguided actions -- because he never truly brought the viewer all the way along with Bruce.

TL;DR: I don't know either. But I agree and commiserate with you on this. I still enjoy watching BVS and other Snyder films, but seeing other films -- especially Nolan's, which I'm not saying are theoretically better -- makes the difference very jarring.

#zack snyder #batman v superman #bvs #asks #batman v superman: dawn of justice #batman vs superman #bruce wayne #batman #dc #clark kent #superman #long rambly imperfect thoughts #I'm sure people will disagree with me on this but #alas #I am no film major

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sahind · 1 year

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"...they will join you in the sun, Kal."

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the-imaginative-hobbyist · 2 months

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Bat and Cat.

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violent138 · 27 days

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Bruce Wayne's parents' deaths from Batman 1989 to the live actions that followed. Common recurring theme: they're leaving a movie/play via alley. Common repeating motifs include: the pearls (purity, loyalty, innocence), the gun, Martha usually holds/shields Bruce, and the fact that Thomas dies first, usually after moving in front of his wife and kid.

Batman (1989) - Starts off at a weird angle looking up at the Waynes (establishing their place in the city?), and above them are gold-yellow rays (lights) but they walk into the darkness. Everyone moves in a very stage-directed, telegraphed way, and the whole scene has a choral, atmospheric feel through lighting and sound. Something follows, seen in blurry shadowed figures. Bruce notices something wrong first, and his parents stop and turn due to him doing so. At first we don't see the killer, but one of his accomplices smiles and tears off Martha's necklace. Then Thomas reacts and the necklace breaks and popcorn goes tumbling down. Garbled, ominous dialogue. For this one, both popcorn and pearls go tumbling down, and we very clearly see the killer's face (grotesquely smiling by the way), and the camera lingers on him and his near-killing of Bruce too before he's interrupted. We see the killer, and then Bruce, and the killer talks to him. This is a night that didn't go as planned, for anyone.

Batman Begins (2005) - We're at the family's level, the alley is seedy from the start (dark and derelict), yet the Waynes are unbothered, their focus entirely on their son. We hear sounds, this is an actively unfolding scene and less of a memory. There's a focus on the family's interactions, but we see the killer this time too (but briefly). This is a much slower scene that builds up to the confrontation and then speeds up with the killings. Thomas is alive long enough to comfort his kid. Bruce silently cries over them, and now it gets choral and atmospheric. This one truly feels like a robbery gone wrong, just a twitchy guy ruining a night that had no indications of this happening at all.

Batman v Superman (2016) - We start from above and descend down through the camera to the Waynes, this is another darker lit scene. Similarly, the Waynes are carefree, however this scene relies more heavily on visuals and music. Interspersed with scenes of running, the gun comes into focus, Thomas goes. There's detail in focused sounds, like clenching of leather, clattering pearls, the bullet casing bouncing. Underwater, memory-esque feel to this one as Martha's pearls go, and we catch a glimpse of the killer. So far this is the one most personal to them, and less interested in the pearls, which are snapped deliberately. We catch a glimpse of the killer. It's the slow happening over seconds, and the location/setting makes it intimate and closed off, as it's a memory with a few defined details but much is lost. You get the feel that the why doesn't matter at all with this one (an important part of the movie as a whole).

Joker (2019) - In this one, the Waynes are fleeing the theatre (quite brightly lit), at odds with their burning city, and a clown sees them and follows. The Waynes enter a dark alley (momentarily separated from the chaos), this is the first in which they're forced into danger, and the clown names them before shooting Thomas. Martha's pearls are snapped after she's shot, and this becomes the most random, yet specific killing of the Waynes, with robbery barely even a motive. Bruce stands between the carnage, blood on his face.

Gotham (2014) - The camera pans up from the killer's perspective, slowly rising up from behind him to the happy, unaware family. They tense up when the killer draws a weapon. This one has the least music, emphasizing the dialogue between Thomas and the killer. There's the inclusion of a third person (our inclusion is most obvious in this one, the rest are vignettes or memories pretty clearly aside from Joker). The music slowly does emerge and it's entirely creepy/dreadful. This killer makes a vocal demand for the necklace. The pearls break while being handed over, they're not torn away. Lots of emphasis on Bruce. Thomas dies first, then Martha, and now the killer turns his weapon on Bruce, who's still standing amongst bounding pearls. He's in danger somehow most in this one. We see the killer's eyes intently before the robber runs past Bruce into the street. Bruce reacts, shaking his parents and bloodying his hands.

#So #I instead of working on my exams #decided to do this instead:#a study in batman's parents' deaths #I've actually wanted to do this for so long lmao #might make a longer post about this #let me know if I missed one #Gotham #batman v superman #batman #bruce wayne #thomas wayne #martha wayne #joker #batman begins #filming decisions

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sideprofilehunter · 27 days

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