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murky-tannin · 1 year
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Can’t wait for the inversion of the disc war finale where instead of Punz ‘betraying’ Dream to save Tommy and Tubbo, Punz betrays Tommy and Tubbo to save Dream. I’m so terrified for those two
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b3-with-you · 1 year
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dsmp season 2 theories: where the hell is punz?
if the whole server was blown up or at least the majority of it has been, it would mean that most people would have lost a canon life from the nukes and that everyone who only had one life left is most likely dead. but here also comes the question of where the hell is punz? punz is canonically dead since he was down to one life after he was revived from the book, but he wasn’t in the “new world.” tubbo, tommy, and dream were there, and jack had two lives left so i’m assuming that he’s probably still in the old world, but punz was no where to be seen. and since they are dead, they’re most likely in a limbo of some sort.
but the idea of limbo gets kind of iffy regarding how different characters have described and experienced it. we know limbo changes depending on how you die, but there are certain limbos where you’re alone, certain ones where there are others with you, and certain ones where you have to live out your personal hell. for example, we have ghostbur who’s alone in a train and then we have ranboo who was in the middle of the ocean until mexican dream came along and then tommy’s first limbo in which he was schlatt, wilbur, and mexican dream. there are so many questions and i can’t tell if they’re plot holes or if they’re gonna be answered some time in the future.
but with that, i believe that punz is in his own personal hell and because of that, he’ll end up being one of the main villains of season 2. starting with the conversation between tommy and dream, punz could tell that tommy was winning dream over. he literally put himseld in between dream and tommy and said that he was dream’s friend. that he’s dream’s only friend.
i used to think that punz genuinely cared about dream even if it was just a little, i mean how could you not? they spent so much time together, they killed each other, they watched each other die, punz probably had to take of dream after he escaped prison—you can’t go through all of that without at least feeling something for the other person. but above everything, punz’s main goal has always been power and dream was able to give him that. but not vulnerable, sappy, innocent dream. punz needed the ruthless, cold monster that dream became. that was who he cared about.
by the end of it, dream finally caved in and started putting his trust in tommy. if the nukes had never hit, dream would have 100% changed. he wouldn’t have killed tommy, i think he would have let him go and punz would have hated that. dream and tommy died with hope, with understanding. even tubbo, he died on the bench, he died thinking about tommy and all the moments they had. punz, however, died not wanting to die—not wanting to lose. he was never gonna change, he would always be after power. that’s the biggest difference between punz and dream—dream did everything because he cared, he just got too carried away with the power, but all punz cared about was the power.
a/n: not proofread, hope this made sense
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bee-dot-exe · 1 year
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I heard a theory a while ago about the L'Manberg anthem. "With Wilbur, Tommy, Tubbo, fuck Eret." About that being the order of their characters dying.
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diana-westmoon · 2 years
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Thinking about c!Fundy saying “c!Wilbur made me eat on the floor”.
I think it was just a slip up by cc!Fundy, escpecially cause cc!Wilbur quickly swapped topics, but it’s still a tad annoying and now canon, so:
Theory 1: c!Fundy is a fox who became sentient. c!Wilbur made him eat on the floor before he became sentient. It’s just an old memory.
Theory 2: c!Fundy doesn‘t know what‘s real anymore due to his nightmares. He has wrong memories and eating of the floor is just one of his nightmare memories.
I won‘t stand this c!Wilbur slander.
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idkwatthehec · 5 months
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Yall I just realized something.
So you all know about how Eret’s planned ending was the reveal that the Dsmp was actually like a weird sort of time loop thing and that’s why Karl’s Tales were always so similar.
Do you guys remember the underwater city. Where all the main people of the smp had a room. Everyone except one person.
Wilbur didn’t have a room.
Wilbur left the smp before the nuke.
WILBUR LEFT. BEFORE THE CYCLE WAS RENEWED.
THAT MEANS HES NO LONGER A PART OF THE CYCLE.
And that’s why he never ever appeared in a Tales. Not once.
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420technoblazeit · 12 days
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does anyone remember that theory someone made that the book c!dream made a deal with schlatt for was the script for the lore. and that's why he became so obsessed with narratives and main characters or whatever, he knew that he wasnt the main character of the story and that tommy was
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bc-jpeg · 1 year
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so uh- I didn't see if this theory already exists in the fandom, or no one really touched on it, but after a long time in both fandoms, one funny pattern is noticeable. I’m so obsessed with watchers lore so much, which is why I started to go beyond only one universe, and this gave the result. so the theory is that dreamxd is a watcher. after digging into the dsmp lore, I found several points that may indicate this. dxd’s nature may differ from the canonical nature of the watchers that we see in evo smp and in the life-seasons in martyn’s lore, but we also already have a watcher!grian, whose watcher's nature also differs in its own way from that very canon, he has his own lore, so this will also work here.
now this will be only my personal version of watcher!dxd lore, there may still be holes in it, but this is only as a possible base:
presumably dreamxd is an ex-manhunt!dream, who could not get out of the world and stuck in the spectator mode of the game, becoming a watcher. in the initial attempts to escape from such a fate and get out (I don't think dream would just accept such a fate), he was crippled either by other watchers or by himself, having lost his "eye". this explains the basic visual interpretation of the dxd, where the place where the eyes should have been is now a familiar cross pattern.
isolating himself from other watchers, dxd created a time loop from the existing world, from which he initially could not get out, closing access to the end dimension for players, preventing both the players themselves from escaping, and the possibility of capturing these players to other watchers for their own time loops. the world with the manhunt seed was restarted, defaulting almost everything to zero, which eventually became the dsmp server. all interactions between players and server events began to give dxd so much energy and power that eventually the essence of the watcher completely absorbed him, dxd himself began to provoke events, interact directly with players, and all for the sake of energy, emotions, deaths that made him only stronger. dsmp became an excellent loop-feeder for him only, in which he completely lost his original humanity, becoming a monster, creating only chaos.
one of the risky but effective dxd’s moves of was giving the revival book and the book of death to players inside the time loop, which in a peculiar way gave them access to part of dxd’s powers. he realized how unpredictable players can be in their decisions and actions, which gave a ton of events possibilities. he wouldn't have to provoke events himself, when players can do everything for him, giving the same amount of energy.
so in the final of the dsmp, after that nuclear explosion, dxd simply restarted the entire time loop, as it was shown. the players don't remember anything that happened, they don't remember each other, the whole world was defaulted to zero, where they started all over again.
it’s also interesting that the concepts of limbo and dreams/illusions exist both in the dsmp lore and in watchers lore in life-seasons. limbo is the space where players end up with the loss of all their canonical lives, and there is no return from there, only at the whim of mystical powers (dsmp — the revival book, as part of the dxd’s powers, life-seasons — the watchers, more specifically watcher!grian).
both concepts somehow intersect with each other:
> in the dsmp, they intersected in the c!george’s lore, he had partial access to limbo through his own dreams, where dxd himself was also often present. someone also had the opportunity to watch server events from limbo.
> in life-seasons, according to cc!martyn, limbo is the space where all players get to after the final death and are there between seasons in a state of sleep, in which they see their own smps/universes.
again, this is just a possible version of how exactly this theory/head-cannon can work, there are a lot of things that I could not explain yet, because there is too much information from different dsmp povs. some things I remember, some not at all, but I left a hint of their possible intersection visually in the diagram. the theory of the smps-multiverse is here simply by default, all the other main points are indicated in this diagram. all of this will be easily editable at any future time, my job is just to throw in the base for this theory :D
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mossrockpog · 5 months
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Hello all. I have come to a wonderful and terrible realization.
Q!Badboyhalo. Vaguely established to be c!badboyhalo as well. Currently visiting a desert that is seemingly the afterlife, a blank slate of sand, whenever he sleeps and suffering from memory loss. Seemingly about to die and reset, starting anew and having to figure out who he was supposed to be in this grand life of his.
One could say he's lived too long, from certain perspectives.
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Friends I have potentially bad news about the canon status of Utah in the QSMP
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ffaeb · 3 months
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/DSMP /RP
EVERYOJE SHUT UP SHUT UP, FUN THOUGHTS TIME. When c!Schlatt died of a drunken heart attack, he was, of course, drunk. when c!Quackity went to talk with his ghost, said ghost was also drunk. Glatt's memories of being alive seemed a bit blurry. As if he was hungover. c!Wilbur was happy when he died (smiling atleast), a result of having gone insane. ghostbur had only happy memories, and was almost always happy.
c!Tommy was scared when he died. He was trapped with his tormentor for weeks, and thought nobody cared. He never had a ghost. And he came back a shell of himself. Empty.
So theory, the ghosts are mirrors of what people felt when they died and Tommy being a "shell of himself" is a reflection of him never having a ghost while dead. I'm
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metrixnos · 1 year
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also! some random doodles from this week!!!
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pupstim · 7 months
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have another eepy lil theory. A long while ago (like probably back around june or july?) pomme said one of her favorite headcanons about bad was that he had shapeshifting powers but probably shrunk himself down to not scare the eggs.
was thinkin abt that tonight and just how what if not only bad's looking worse with the blue and stuff but he's also just slowly growing taller because whats the point to make urself look nonthreatening when the people you're trying to look nonthreatening to is gone
sorry just the thought of bad slowly beginning to tower over his friends amuses me especially if it happens so slowly they don't really notice it. go from 5 ft tall to 9 ft tall with this one neat trick!
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shopmoonymoss · 1 month
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heres a sneak peak of my designs for my ticket keychains :D [part one]
first theres my Ranboo rebrand design !! this design i used for my test batch, as you can see in the video below, and they turned out great !!
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next we have a silly Jschlatt one :D
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and a Jack Manifold one !! this one is inspired by one of tubbos newer tweets :3
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heres a QSMP one !!
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and a last life ticket :P
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i even made a hermitcraft one !!
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and lastly a Matpat ticket !! guys i promise im not in denial !!
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dissonantharmony · 2 months
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fun fact of the day! over a third of all dsmp members have seen c!eret's eyes!
on a completely and totally unrelated note: alyssa has been added to the c!eret's eyes google doc!
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clembian · 6 months
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i think that nothing could ever be like dsmp again. even if you perfectly recreated it, it would never quite be the same
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watermelonfrog2 · 2 months
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Did I just make a dsmp bost about c!tommy not less then 2 seconds ago? yes. DId I also make a long post about dsmp earlier today? yes. Am i making another post about c!tommy and dsmp? also yes. I think a lot of fans forget that it wasnt just that tommy burnt down georges house, its that other houses were being grieved in the same way georges house was (although it was only confirmed that c!tommy griefed Georges house, the others couldve been framed.) Tommy wasnt just exiled because it was one house, it was multiple. It just bothered me that no one seems to remember this
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overthinkingfandom · 2 years
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How people seem to think Dream's PlanTM works:
Step 1: Frame Tommy for crimes Step 2: Get him exiled Step 3: Get Tubbo’s disc Step 4: Destroy L'manburg Step 5: Stage an epic final confrontation over the discs Step 6: Get locked up Step 7: ??? Step 8: Profit!
How it actually works:
Profit! > ??? >> Get locked up  >>> Need to give someone a reason to lock him up (I’m already beefing with Tommy. Staging an epic final confrontation over the discs would work.) >>>> Need to get the discs for the confrontation. (Buying the disc off of Skeppy is easy but Tubbo is loyal to Tommy and wouldn’t just hand it over.) >>>>> Need to sabotage Tubbo’s loyalty to Tommy. (He wants L’manburg to be peaceful. I could present myself as an ally to his goal and Tommy as an obstacle.) >>>>>> Need to mess up their communication so they won’t just make up (Exiling Tommy would leave him far away, but won’t guarantee success. Mess him up so he would self sabotage his relationships in case they do talk.) >>>>>>> Frame Tommy for crimes he could be punished for.
>>> Need to make sure no one would suspect anything (Tommy already sees me as a disney villain. Publicly destroying L’manburg would let everyone see me twirling my mustache and get them on board with locking me up.)
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