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watsondcsj · 1 year
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Me any time I think of DC circa 2018
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thevindicativevordan · 4 months
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Is it fair to say the issue with Conner becoming Superman is that the possibility he might have to one will always be more interesting than him actually doing it could?
Nah I don’t agree. Conner as Superman could totally work and be interesting. Frankly at this point it’s a more interesting thought experiment than Jon will ever be. Conner has a different backstory than Clark, he’s got the freedom to have different love interests that aren’t reporters, and for all its flaws the YJ cartoon cemented Conner as a guy who could be darker and edgier than Clark is allowed to be, offering a wider range of storytelling possibilities than either Clark or Jon are typically allowed to have.
Current status quo being what it is, I would take all the 5G concepts planned for Jon and use them for Conner. Make Conner the “Wildstorm Superman” teaming up with (and possibly dating?) Jenny Sparks/Quantum. Having begun life as a lab grown WMD for Cadmus/Lexcorp, Conner fits rather nicely into the Wildstorm world of government conspiracies, shadowy secret agents, and superhumans employed as tools of war or terrorists. Conner teaming up with Jenny to travel the world and dismantle attempts at manufacturing superhumans to serve in wars by megacorps and government agencies, seems like a much better fit for him than nostalgia reunions. More interesting than the boring weenie Jon has ended up as, and something that you can’t do with Earth 0 Clark either.
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davidmann95 · 2 years
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DC 5G - what we know, what we 'know', what's left
NOTE: This has been updated significantly since I initially posted it, with assorted chunks of information parceled out by Dan DiDio in a Word Balloon interview, labeled UPDATE, or a new slate of scoops dug up by - deep sigh - Bleeding Cool (who for all their rumormongering, provably had details on this given how early details of theirs eventually bore out in published comics), labeled UPDATE 2. Most of my fairly glowing opinions accompanying these details are from my original version of this pre-Dark Crisis; I put a very different 'up-to-date' response at the bottom. A bunch of the UPDATE 2 stuff also had titles attached, but they seem...placeholder-ey, so I'll ignore them.
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With Dark Crisis approaching and my bitterness rising as it looks more and more like an off-ramp to the idea of a next-gen DCU than anything else - with titles like Son of Kal-El and I Am Batman completely fizzling out in the meantime while Wonder Girl goes under entirely - I've gone back to thinking about the original 5G plan. Those who follow me on Twitter know I've gone over the last couple years from 'hmm, I'm interested in Jon as Superman, but gosh that timeline is dumb' to a hardcore '5G WAS THE TRUTH AND THE WAY, THE MOMENT THE STOPPED CLOCK WAS RIGHT, DC WHAT IN GOD'S NAME HAVE YOU DONE' partisan, even if the timeline's still kinda dumb.
It was always going to alienate the existing fanbase: it's an approach that besides the face-value shakeup itself puts slow-burn soap development on the backburner in favor of moving fast and breaking things, and potentially results in your faves not graduating to the 'right' positions or ending up in the 'right' relationships to boot, plus a new generation of heroes composed in large part of original characters rather than those who 'earned it' via decades of mostly clinging to life in team books or guest appearances. My being way more interested in the potential of the vast revision of the archetypes and a proper injection of mythic sweep and enduring legacy into a shared universe ostensibly built on those is at the end of a day a difference of taste, but as for my arguments beyond that:
I don't think it can be reasonably argued that The Son of Superman and The Next Batman treated with seriousness wouldn't have been far more attention-getting to broader audiences (and a richer template for that sweet sweet IP farming DC publication now explicitly exists in service of) than rebooting the classic bunch for the 5th or 6th time.
The classic folks still would've been in Black Label and the like forever; yes, for the most part their classic-mold ongoing adventures would be over, but being extremely real most Batman stories would work pretty much the same with someone else under the cowl, and if there's something ala Tom King's Batman that's character-driven and demands space to breathe, it's been shown there's space for that outside of continuity with the likes of...sigh. White Knight.
DC having to ride or die by the new names as their headliners would have meant those characters wouldn't have had the opportunity to languish in genuinely crappy books the way they have - they would have had to immediately sell at least their new Justice League on the strength of their immediate quality with little pertinent backlog to lean on and basically no fallback option.
The loglines of characters built for those gigs tend to be a lot more straightforward than the baggage of folks who've been around for decades having been created to fulfill different functions.
Let's again be real, the significant majority of the existing readership would've sighed and still bought everything with the big names on the covers if not been actively hyped.
Anyway, with all that in mind and the likely-forsaken potential of the concept being a frequent topic of discussion with some friends of mine, I felt the urge to once again revive the Tumblr and put together a rough outline of what we know about the '5G' setup. From assorted scoops (mostly from Bleeding Cool, which I won't be linking to but demonstrated they knew at least the broad strokes of what was happening here), interviews, and indicators in comics that actually have been published, I wanted to see the shape of the baby thrown out with DiDio's bathwater. Starting someplace unexpected:
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When I was first getting into comics, my dad informed me of a rumor he'd heard about that at the end of the new event comic Final Crisis, the Justice League was going to die and would become the NEW New Gods, with their sidekicks and children stepping up in their place, making it a truly 'final' crisis for the DCU as we knew it. While that didn't play out, apparently there was something to it: according to BC, this was in fact the big idea at one point, reportedly under the banner of 'The Fifth World' paying off some notions from Grant Morrison's JLA that were being revived in Final Crisis. This seems shocking given Dan DiDio's notorious antipathy towards the likes of Dick Grayson and Wally West, but his primary complaints about them - that Dick was forever stuck between his iconic past as Robin and grand future as Batman, he and Wally both breaking the DCU by their very existences in aging while their predecessors remain eternal - would have been solved by this shift. His old declaration that Nightwing could only survive Infinite Crisis if something was done to justify him makes a lot more sense if the gears had immediately started turning to make him Batman.
Along with Dick, and likely Cassie Sandsmark as Wonder Woman since Donna Troy had just filled that spot, with the benefit of hindsight it's clear the stage was being set for a new generation lineup: Bart Allen had become The Flash and even after his death was set up for an immediate resurrection, Kurt Busiek was establishing a new Aquaman, Jason Rusch and Jaime Reyes and Ryan Choi were the new Firestorm and Blue Beetle and Atom, Roy Harper had taken a seat in the JLA as Red Arrow, and Freddie Freeman was the new Captain Marvel, with Hal presumably sticking around as rep for the old guard given Johns had just returned him to glory. And right around the corner was Blackest Night to give the kids a trial by fire in the face of their zombie predecessors, with the get out of jail free card of the white rings to bring all the originals back at the end if this whole experiment immediately flopped.
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Conner Kent as Superman was presumably going to be a crown jewel, with Chris Kent perhaps being set up as his Superboy with a background conceptually near-identical to Damian Wayne as the new Robin (scion of a major villain taken in by a Superdad, they're separated, by the time the kid makes it back dad is gone and a big brother has to step up). You've even got a big easy passing-of-the-torch moment at the end of Final Crisis with Clark giving up everything he has to activate the Miracle Machine - an odd non-sequitur with no consequences in the story as-is - and a final declaration 'look up in the sky' at an army of approaching Supermen Conner could well have been leading as his grand debut.
And there's a VERY interesting context if you consider what ultimately happened in place of The Fifth World in the form of the New 52 - a younger, cockier Superman who ends up dating a Wonder Woman who's now Zeus's kid. It seems some of the big ideas were still carried over, especially considering under Grant Morrison that new Superman in a t-shirt and jeans fights Luthor who considers him a lab specimen (alongside Brainiac, as Conner would in Johns and Manapul's brief Adventure Comics run in place of all this, and who Morrison reconceptualizes as a preservationist dedicated to holding a newly-changed world in amber), and then new equivalents and 'successors' to the likes of Mxyzptlk, the classic Phantom Zoners, Terra-Man, and the Kryptonite Man, culminating in a battle with a combination of Bizarro - the ultimate Superman clone - and Doomsday - the franchise-killer whose existence roundabout birthed Conner - for the right to the Superman brand. Was Morrison going to do Conner as Superman alongside Batman and Robin, and they repurposed those 'Superman 2' ideas along with that one All-Star spinoff to create their Action Comics run? Did they just hear that was the plan and kick around some ideas of how they'd handle it that were reused later? Or do those pieces mostly just fit because 'new era' ideas can make near-equal sense whether applied a reboot or a new guy in the cape?
(Perhaps a strike against coincidence: All-Star Superman ends with the conception of a test-tube child of Superman via what was once Cadmus, essentially Conner's origin. Morrison's gone on the record that Batman R.I.P. ends the way it does to provide an iconic 'death' for Bruce setting up Dick as the new guy for those who weren't reading Final Crisis; it seems at least a little bit possible that All-Star at the same time had a similar idea at the back of its mind if it wasn't outright geared to serve that purpose.)
UPDATE: DiDio confirmed Final Crisis was originally meant to lead into a next-gen relaunch, and also mentioned there were plans to pair this with an 'Ultimate'-style line still starring Clark, Bruce, and Diana, and that All-Star and Earth One lines were also both failed attempts at an Ultimate DC. Given the timing, it may be fair to assume that Earth One was initially intended to be paired with Fifth World, and why it was so quickly supplanted by the New 52 when its initial purpose was nullified; if nothing else, it'd explain why that ostensibly mass-market initiative had a nerd-ass name like Earth One.
An interesting bunch of notions, but let's go from the Fifth World to the Fifth Generation: between all the stuff I mentioned earlier there's actually a pretty clear picture of how 5G would've looked, at least concerning the big names.
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Kal-El lands on Earth in 1938 as the kickoff to this world's history, though Wonder Woman emerges in 1939 as the first public superhero (shown by Snyder and Hitch in Wonder Woman #750); she leads the Justice Society of America until leaving man's world after the atomic bomb's dropped. Clark operates quietly in Smallville as Superboy, but he stops when the JSA disbands in 1955 in protest of HUAC wanting them to disclose their identities (though according to the solicit for the cancelled Generation One: Age of Mysteries there was a secret 'real' reason they disassembled; apparently a Golden Age hero would also become a great villain, and a secret deal of some sort would be struck to "keep the Wayne family dynasty alive" after Thomas and Martha's murders).
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Clark is operating in secret as Superman by 1963 and meets JFK who encourages him to gather other heroes in service of a finer world (as seen in the opening of Superman and The Authority; as published after 5G was scrapped this was recontextualized as a time-travel adventure), with him and Batman both publicly debuting in 1965 and the Justice League of America forming soon after with a returned Wonder Woman. The events of 1965-1985 were meant to be depicted one year per issue in a 21-part series by Mark Russell which would later be heavily reimagined as Superman: Space Age.
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Crisis on Infinite Earths occurs in 1985, and everything from then to Death Metal is largely the same, just over an elongated expanse of time and with a few irreconcilable continuity-specific bits like Superman/Wonder Woman excised. Apparently the assorted Crisis events cause years to be 'skipped', allowing key characters to retain some relative youth.
(The Other History of the DC Universe while not a 1:1 appears to have been constructed to roughly fit with this given John Ridley was ultimately a 5G architect, with the JLA emerging in the 70s or possibly 60s if you fudge the narration a bit and still going strong in 2010.)
By the present day, the bulk of the JLA have passed, retired, or otherwise stepped back; the Titans now fill the traditional 'old guard' slot.
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The initial prompt offered by DiDio to creators was notoriously for an aged Clark to pursue a totalitarian path and assemble a new version of The Authority as his vanguard. Apparently that wasn't a hard-and-fast direction, as it was radically reconfigured by Grant Morrison into Superman and The Authority, which in the original 5G version would have ended with the revelation that Clark had somehow secretly been split into 'Red' and 'Blue' versions increasingly representing his dueling conservative and revolutionary instincts, with leftie Blue forming the team we currently see, and rightwing Red reforming the classic lineup swapping out Midnighter and Apollo with a likely unwitting Damian Wayne and Jon Kent.
When the dust settled and presumably a reconstituted Clark pursued his own adventures (UPDATE: DiDio noted Clark would continue losing his powers as his capacity as a 'solar battery' dimmed, grooming The Authority to take over for him completely), a 23 year old Jonathan would become the new main Superman, likely written by Matt Fraction according to a Word Balloon podcast, reportedly dating Jenny Sparks and Smallville acting as his 'Fortress' with the citizens working to maintain his privacy when visiting. Between being duped into following Red and under unknown circumstances bottling Metropolis he would likely be starting on the backfoot and needing to prove himself to the world as a worthy inheritor.
UPDATE 2: Along with losing his powers, part of the impetus behind Superman's retirement per DiDio's original plan would be that after revealing his identity to the world, Clark would begin pressuring other members of the Justice League to engage in similar transparency, ultimately forming a divide that would lead to the end of the team (with Jon spending much of his time in the 31st century with the Legion to avoid the whole affair). He passes the mantle to Jon and retires with Lois to Africa (this was also a plot point in Future's End; I guess Dan had it in the back pocket for awhile for some reason?), but ends up performing covert superheroics that lead to The Authority's formation.
UPDATE 2: Jon's solo title would proceed as described, with his own 'neverending battle' to avert the destruction of the original Earth seen in the Legion's timeline. I also suspect Morrison's Red-and-Blue division was also an attempt at having a figure to take the blame for some actions covered further below.
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As originally pitched by Tynion when his run was meant to lead into 5G, at the climax of Joker War the Clown Prince of Crime is shot and left in a permanent comatose state by Selina Kyle, ending her relationship with Bruce. Left with no resources, no Alfred, no Gordon, no arch-nemesis, and a Gotham being radically rebuilt in a new image, Bruce concludes the time of Batman is over and that he should find other ways to help the world with his remaining years, leaving Gotham (presumably this period was pitched for by Tom Taylor and later became The Detective with Andy Kubert) and asking his allies not to pick up his mantle. Damian would take his place at the throne of Leviathan in his own move to remake the world and become the 'Magneto' to Jon's 'Professor X', still cordial in respect to their past friendship but at the end of the day enemies. Jace - in early rumors (UPDATE: and according to DiDio) Luke, but John Ridley has said it was Jace for as long as he was onboard - becomes the next Batman, disdained by Damian for taking up the Batman mantle and on awkward terms with the new Superman. Tynion also had an idea for a 5G Joker title about a teenager radicalized by Joker's legacy that instead became Punchline.
UPDATE: DiDio confirmed that by the time everything fell through, the plan was instead for Joker to survive and kill Bane before revealing Batman's identity to the world after their final battle; Bruce is imprisoned because he's held partially culpable for Bane's death (he 'freezes' when Joker says he plans to do this, giving Joker a chance to escape, and he fears that since Bane killed Alfred he subconsciously allowed him to do it). Clark later breaks him out, eventually setting up a generational war between Clark and Bruce against Jon/Damian/Luke as the culmination of the initial 5 year roadmap for 5G.
UPDATE 2: Apparently the original plan was for Batman to straight-up agree to let Joker kill Bane, good lord. Guess the 'freezing' thing was a wiggle room compromise ala how Morrison handled Authority, though with...less panache. Anyway, Bruce makes amends with his family and closes up shop before retiring to England (a pitch for which was indeed the original kernel for the aforementioned Taylor/Kubert book).
UPDATE 2: Batman - definitely Luke Fox in the original plan, with concept art by Mikel Janin pictured above, meaning Ridley definitively wasn't there at inception - would have as noted fought Damian Wayne, and Tamara Fox would have discovered his identity and become Robin against his protests. After fighting a returned Joker Bruce's culpability in Bane's death would be discovered, and Bruce would have willingly turned himself in.
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Regarding several of the other books: Green Lantern was to be written by Jeff Lemire, spearheading a 'horror line' for 5G and presumably starring Jo Mullein (UPDATE 2: it would have actually starred a 'main DCU' take on the necromancer Tangent Green Lantern, with Jo as the Lantern of the team Justice Alliance). Tim Sheridan would write a Nightwing/Oracle title and the new Flash book; the latter was reportedly the child of Captain Boomerang, so his ideas there were likely recycled into Bolt for his Titans Academy, the daughter of Australian criminals. Brian Bendis would be writing spy books and the Green Arrow ongoing according to a Word Balloon interview of his own. Phillip Kennedy Johnson was doing something for a 'space line'. UPDATE 2: Ram V and Mike Perkins' Swamp Thing was additionally part of 5G, and apparently Yara Flor was originally imagined as Wonder Woman.
Matt Fraction, Warren Ellis, and Chip Zdarsky were collectively working on a project involving the new Superman and Batman that ultimately fell through, whether as soon as Warren Ellis's involvement in any of DC's affairs was taken off the table, or if it would have proceeded without him but collapsed with the line. Presumably Zdarsky's end of it morphed in some fashion into Justice League: Last Ride, showing the sundowning days of the now-disbanded League.
(Pure personal speculation: the roughly contemporaneous The Batman's Grave when Ellis was part of the 5G braintrust may have been intended to provide a non-continuity perennial 'ending' to Bruce which would still leave him alive in accordance with his upcoming setup, same as All-Star would've provided a clean continuity-free transition point from Clark to Conner.)
UPDATE: This likely morphed into a weekly series described by DiDio by Fraction, Greg Rucka, Bendis, and Kelly Sue DeConnick charting the path of how the old guard stepped down (while still remaining alive and on the table) while the new generation emerged; his recollection was that this was titled something to the effect of Last Call, further suggesting Last Ride was a mutation of this book.
UPDATE 2: Alternatively, it may have been Changing of the Guard, an event parallel Last Call which would have shown the rise of the new generation of heroes, focusing on the new Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman.
UPDATE: DiDio noted that the G's were divided by central superhero team - Justice Society of America, Justice League of America, Justice League International, Justice League, and then the "new Justice series", suggesting the era's big superhero team would have a new title rather than being a new League.
UPDATE 2: The new team would have been known as the Justice Alliance, assembled by Superman and Batman in a World's Finest miniseries (I suppose another candidate for the Ellis/Fraction/Zdarsky project, though this seems to have been a little late in the game to have had a team assigned so early on) composed of Jon, Luke, Yara, Jo, and the aforementioned new Flash. Tim Sheridan would have either written this miniseries or Justice Alliance itself; the wording of the report is unclear.
UPDATE 2: Clark breaking Bruce out of jail - which apparently was just for the sake of breaking him out of jail? - would have noted led to a generational civil war triggering the endgame of the 5G plan roundabouts 2024. To help win Clark would undergo a process to restore his former powers, but this overload of his powers would place the entire Earth at risk as foretold in the Legion's history. With Bruce somehow sacrificing himself to save the world and both men dying, the future is changed, and Jon and Luke definitively the new Superman and Batman...unless it was decided in 2025 that the initiative wasn't working, with a 'back door' planted into this chain of events to instead reboot to a clean slate with Clark and Bruce and company back in their primes.
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So your mileage will vary tremendously here, because even aside from the seismic nature of the shift everybody would find themselves pissed off by something or another in here, myself included ('everything counts' except Golden Age Superman? At least Clark’d be doing that kind of stuff in the present, but. Plus that's kind of a shame of a fate for Damian pending his inevitable face turn, though I haven’t liked much else with him since he was brought back and this could still at least be interesting. And, again, an exact timeline's pretty dopey and fruitlessly doomed to near-immediate expiration) - that's the nature of a big swing. But there's also stuff for everybody here: Superman gets a huge thematic tip of the hat to his nature as the first superhero while Wonder Woman is the public first to line up with the movies, the JSA have their role to make those fans happy, the Titans fulfill their promise as the inheritors, and again between the likes of that proto-Space Age book and Black Label miniseries there were still regularly going to be titles about the classic heroes at their peaks alongside their new adventures as elder statesmen. You have that deep history for the longtime fans, and a completely clean slate jumping-on point for anyone curious about headlines of NEW SUPERMAN NEW BATMAN THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT THE MOVIES ARE GONNA BE IN 10 YEARS, with easy-in loglines like "Just as the crown is passed the legacy of Superman is perhaps irreparably tarnished, can Lois and Clark's son Jon Kent overcome his initial stumbles and prove himself worthy of the greatest mantle of all?", "Even Bruce Wayne has given up on Batman...but one man hasn’t, and his ultimate rival is the seemingly destined Blood Heir", "The new Green Lantern found her footing patrolling a single world, but now she's thrown headlong into the most terrifying depths of the cosmos", "Can the ultimate Legacy Hero Dynasty be lived up to by the 'legacy' of one of its oldest enemies?" etc.
All-in-all: of course stuff was still gonna suck, his ultimate (good) brainstorm or not I’m sure DiDio was micromanaging it to hell and I imagine a lot of creators weren’t wild about the pitch “in a blitz of creative fervor unseen since the Silver Age create all our new headliners, who as directly derivative characters you won’t even collect royalties for”. But just in terms of what wound up on the stands each month I can't imagine it wouldn't have been so, so much better than Infinite Frontier's weightless lack of commitment in either direction where we have a new Superman, Batman, Wonder (Girl), Aquaman, and Green Lantern, but they're mostly in kind of subsidiary incidental roles while the classics still handle the big jobs until DC can decide for certain where it's going - the closest to full headliner status being Jon, who's basically holding down the fort while his dad's out of town, doing Regular Superman Stuff and fighting A Lex-Type Guy. I'm really, really hoping against hope that Dark Crisis is actually about letting the kids take center stage in a big way with a big push behind them and the old Justice League still sticking around but yielding at least a little bit of narrative authority, because the current neither fish nor fowl state of things can't continue, and snuffing this out altogether would be such a shame given I truly believe 5G was for all its flaws evident and inevitable DC's most interesting idea in years.
UPDATE: Final note, learned from that Bendis Word Balloon that the cancellation of 5G wasn't an editorial matter but due to shifting corporate priorities above everyone's heads.
UPDATE 2: Well, with a lot of this information, this whole thing pretty quickly goes from 'dammit why'd they have to screw the pooch here' to 'oh there's an excellent chance this would have exploded, huh'. After getting over the initial "JEEEEEEEESUS" reaction to, well, everything with Bruce and Clark, I still don't think it was necessarily 100% doomed, as there were clearly a whole lot of extremely talented creators involved to like with Authority reinterpret those marching orders - I can even imagine a way of doing that dopey Death of The World's Finest with some poetry and grace - but. Y'know. If the success of the plan requires a lot of brilliant people to turn it into something very different: not a great plan. Still would have been something compared to the proud nothing of the broad Infinite Frontier/Dawn of DC slate, and introduced exciting new ideas to be explored here and elsewhere over the longterm in many of the ways I suggested initially, but I can at least feel the relief of knowing that this wasn't some unprecedented moment of defeat being madly snatched unbidden from the jaws of victory.
Except for you, Matt Fraction Jon Kent Superman book. For you, I mourn to the end of time.
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comicpop · 9 months
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Superman and the Authority on Back Issues
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fantastic-nonsense · 2 years
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@magical-alien not knowing anything about 5G before I mentioned it on that Batgirls post like I envy you so much. The sheer amount of DC industry info and behind-the-scenes drama I know about is quite frankly horrifying and I would never wish it on anyone
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shadowwingtronix · 1 year
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A Further Autopsy Of DC's (Thankfully) Failed 5G
BW Media Spotlight does A Further Autopsy Of DC's (Thankfully) Failed 5G with a boost from Comicstorian. (No, this isn't a weekly thing.)
What we know as “Future State” was the surviving elements of a leaked plan for what then DC Comics Editor-In-Chief Dan DiDio planned for the new status of the DC Universe. Known as “5G”, standing for “fifth generation” rather than the wireless network, it would have created a new status quo had the full plan been initiated. Just the parts we heard about was not sitting well with many DC fans,…
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orange-s-mario · 2 years
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i am going to slander the 5G DC trinity a bit
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White nepotism baby
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...I got nothing?
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dccomicsnews · 2 years
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Review: The Swamp Thing #16 (Final Issue)
Review: The Swamp Thing #16 (Final Issue)
Review: The Swamp Thing #16[Editor’s Note: This review may contain spoilers] Writer: Ram VArt: Mike PerkinsColors: Mike SpicerLetters: Aditya Bidikar   Reviewed by: Matthew B. Lloyd   Summary Trinity and Levi must try and sway the Parliament of Gears into making its own way…for the good of humanity…. Positives For almost the entire career of the character, Swamp Thing stories have made the…
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HNT | Helium Network: Revolutionizing Wireless Connectivity with Crypto Incentives 
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HNT | Helium Network: Revolutionizing Wireless Connectivity with Crypto Incentives 
Helium Network: Revolutionizing Wireless Connectivity with Crypto Incentives
In the ever-evolving realm of cryptocurrency, numerous projects grapple with the elusive bridge between theory and real-world application. However, the Helium Network stands out as a shining example, actively transforming the landscape of wireless connectivity with its innovative approach. This article delves into the Helium Network ecosystem, exploring its cryptocurrencies, functionalities, and potential impact on the future of mobile networks.
The Power of Decentralization:
The Helium Network operates on a decentralized peer-to-peer (P2P) model, leveraging a global network of Helium hotspots hosted by individuals. These hotspots, essentially low-powered wireless routers, provide internet access to devices within their range. By participating in this network, users earn rewards in the form of Helium’s native cryptocurrency, Helium (HNT). This unique incentive structure incentivizes network growth and fosters a collaborative environment.
A Symphony of Cryptocurrencies:
The Helium Network ecosystem revolves around four critical cryptocurrencies:
Helium (HNT): The lifeblood of the network, HNT serves as the primary reward for hotspot owners who contribute to network coverage. Users can also burn HNT to create Data Credits, which power data transfer across the network.
Mobile Helium (MOBILE): This utility token rewards users for sharing their mobile data connection through the Helium Mobile app. MOBILE incentivizes broader network participation and strengthens cellular connectivity.
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The Helium Network isn’t just about Wi-Fi. Through its Helium Mobile initiative, the project aims to revolutionize mobile network infrastructure by integrating 5G capabilities with blockchain technology. Users with compatible smartphones can contribute cellular network coverage through the app, earning MOBILE tokens in return. This collaborative approach holds immense potential for expanding and democratizing access to high-speed mobile data.
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Helium (HNT) and Mobile Helium (MOBILE) have garnered significant attention within the crypto sphere, and with good reason. Both coins are integral to the functioning of the Helium Network, a revolutionary project actively building a decentralized wireless infrastructure. HNT, the network’s primary token, incentivizes users to host Helium hotspots, expanding network coverage and earning rewards. MOBILE, on the other hand, rewards users for sharing their mobile data connection through the Helium Mobile app, contributing to a more robust cellular network.
The current price action of HNT and MOBILE can be volatile, as is the nature of cryptocurrency markets. However, their long-term potential hinges on the success of the Helium Network itself. As the network gains traction and disrupts the traditional wireless landscape, both HNT and MOBILE could see significant price appreciation. The increasing demand for data, coupled with the growing focus on decentralized solutions, positions these tokens as potential long-term investments. However, it’s crucial to remember that cryptocurrency investments are inherently risky, and thorough research is essential before making any financial decisions.
Current Market Frenzy:
The Helium Network and its associated cryptocurrencies have captured the attention of the crypto community. Notably, both HNT and MOBILE have experienced significant price surges in recent times, reflecting investor confidence in the project’s potential. However, it’s crucial to remember that cryptocurrency markets are inherently volatile, and responsible investment decisions require thorough research.
Beyond the Hype: A Sustainable Ecosystem on Solana:
Helium leverages the power of the Solana blockchain for efficient transaction processing and network scalability. This partnership ensures that the Helium Network can accommodate future growth and maintain a robust infrastructure.
The Road Ahead:
The Helium Network presents a compelling vision for the future of wireless connectivity. By harnessing the power of decentralization and incentivizing user participation with cryptocurrency rewards, Helium fosters a collaborative environment that could reshape the way we access and share data. While the project remains in its growth phase, its real-world applications and innovative approach hold significant promise for the future of mobile networks and the broader blockchain landscape.
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#DC fans. Ever wonder if there was a reason Joelle Jones’ Wonder Girl ended sooner other than the #CW show fell through? It might have to do with there being as little plans for her in Dan DiDio’s 5G. Executives are lazy like that.
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watsondcsj · 2 years
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Yes, hello. I have something for the DC Comics Tumblr sphere. A fire has been lit inside me that cannot be doused. Herein lies an 18-page essay on Tom Taylor's recent ongoing comic with as much reference images and cited works. Do with this as you please.
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What do you think about recent 5G leaks from Bleeding Cool?
If you've been living under a rock, never fear I shall ramble on about this whole initiative.
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5G - short for "Fifth Generation" - was to be the next big DC reboot, albeit one that recanonized everything instead of erasing what came before. Now the characters which had previously operated on a sliding timeline attached to vague dates, would be allowed to actually age. Superman's rocket would land in 1938 Smallville, and Clark would be elderly and past his prime by "modern" time. Jon would have taken over his role as Superman, alongside other legacy heroes such as Yara Flor Wonder Woman and a Batman who was the son of Lucius Fox (Luke originally, but after Ridley was recruited then it was Jace). It would have been an upheaval on par with the New 52, the classic heroes all either retired, dead, or sidelined for various reasons, and their heirs would generally not have been the traditional choices, Jon aside. If you want a really in-depth analysis of 5G prior to the recent Bleeding Cool reports, I recommend checking out this which does a lot of solid guesswork with regards to what 5G work was salvaged and retooled for other projects.
Now on to what Bleeding Cool has shared about what were the plans for 5G:
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Batman
At the end of Joker War Batman would have let the Joker go in return for the Joker promising to kill Bane for him, in retaliation for Alfred's death.
Joker does indeed honor his promise and kills Bane. This would then lead into a miniseries, Batman: Last Days where Batman would have been consumed by guilt over letting this happen. Because of the new 5G timeline, Bruce would also have been in his sixties, and forced to face the fact that he simply isn't physically cut out to be Batman anymore.
Traveling the world to dismantle Batman Inc, as well as try and salvage his relationship with the Batfamily along the way, Bruce finally retires in England. He would have asked the rest of the Batfamily to let Batman die, and most of the Batfamily would have respected his request. Tom Taylor and Andy Kubert were originally going to handle this series and their work got turned into Batman: The Knight.
Meanwhile back in Gotham, Luke Fox would have decided to take up the mantle of Batman in a New Batman series.
Damian would have felt betrayed by his father's decision to retire and would have chosen to replace his grandfather Ra's as head of the League of Assassins and his mother as head of Leviathan. This would have led to a Batman vs. Robin event where Luke and Damian would have fought each other. Jon would have been involved too, with Damian viewed Jon spending so much time with the Legion as tantamount to abandoning him, and ultimately Luke and Jon would have joined forces against Damain, but the two would not have trusted each other at first.
Tamara Fox, Luke's older sister, would have become her brother's Robin against his wishes.
In 2023 the Joker would have made his return after a long period away in The Hunt for Batman, seeking to test the new Batman Luke. Joker would have outed Bruce's identity as Batman and revealed the promise he made to kill Bane which caused Bruce to let him go. Luke would have wanted to bring Bruce in, but Bruce would have decided to surrender to the Gotham authorities and then he would be put on trial where he would have been found guilty. The Justice Alliance would have supported Luke and been opposed to Bruce, with his old villains gunning for Bruce in one last attempt at revenge.
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Superman
For 5G the plan was that riding the high of revealing himself, Clark would have started pressuring the other Leaguers to ditch their secret identities too. Within the League there would be much discussion and debate over whether or not this was the smart thing to do, with Batman being adamantly opposed.
Jon would not have been happy with his dad's choice because of the greater scrutiny it would have placed him under. Only trips to the future and spending time with the LoSH would have offered Jon escape.
Same as Bruce, Clark would be in his sixties in the "present" and discovered that his powers were fading. Handing the mantle and job of protecting Metropolis to Jon, Clark and Lois would have moved to Africa where he would have become a different type of hero.
Jon and Jenny Sparks would have become a couple as part of Jon replacing his dad in a New Superman series. Learning of a terrible fate awaiting the Earth from his time with the Legion, Jon would have fought a "neverending" battle to make sure it would not come to pass.
Clark would not have been able to sit on the sidelines for long and would have been building a secret Authority team to compensate for his loss in power. Ultimately Jenny would have joined the team too.
Seeing Bruce put on trial would have pushed Clark to step into the spotlight again, with the aid of his Authority team Clark would have broken Bruce out of prison and set up a Superman vs. Superman storyline where Clark and Jon would be on opposite sides, fighting with each other over what it means to be Superman.
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Justice League
There would have been a weekly JL series exploring the 5G timeline and leading up to the dissolution of the League called JL: The Last Call. Brian Bendis, KSD, Matt Fraction, and Greg Rucka would have been the writers for the series.
Come Fall 2021 there would be an event called Changing of the Guard which would have facilitated the mantle handoffs from Clark and Bruce's gen to Jon and Luke's.
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Justice Alliance
This would have been the replacement for the JL, with it's origin in Jon and Luke teaming up against Damian. There would have been a World's Finest event comic that would have seen Jon learning the value of the Superman/Batman partnership and ultimately culminated in the two forming a new team composed of Jon, Luke, Yara, Jo, and a new Flash who was the child of Captain Boomerang. Tim Sheridan would have written this and he seemingly used his ideas for the new Flash to create Bolt for Titans Academy.
In 2024 there would have been a Superman/Batman Against The DC Universe event where the entire DC hero community would have had to chose between Clark and Bruce or Jon and Luke, basically DC's Civil War. Clark would have undergone a process to restore his power levels which would have worked, but his power levels would keep growing to the point he would have become a threat to Earth itself.
Ultimately Bruce would have done something that would kill both himself and Clark as a way of ending the threat Clark posed, saving Earth, and preventing the future Jon learned about from coming to pass. Jon and Luke would therefore have continued as the only Superman and Batman. Unless...
The whole thing flopped saleswise in which case Didio was building an escape hatch to undo 5G and restore Clark and Bruce back to their spots as Superman and Batman in 2025, when DC and WB would have stepped back and judged whether 5G was a success or a failure.
Other 5G Tidbits
Ram V's The Swamp Thing was basically him taking his 5G Swamp Thing pitch and just doing it without 5G.
Jeff Lemire was going to write the Tangent Green Lantern hand off her Lantern to someone in the main universe, which would have placed that successor at the center of a 5G horror line.
A Lost Green Lantern Corps series was planned of seven depowered GLs hired to protect a planet.
Reading all of it, my main takeaways is that all of the Jon solo stuff sounds awesome and all of the Clark stuff sounds awful. If 5G had gone ahead I think Jon might have actually been accepted as a worthy successor to Clark. Fraction likely would have given us some of the best Superman content we've ever gotten and it would have been with Jon as the protagonist. Jon dating Jenny Sparks in a series potentially written by Matt Fraction sounds exponentially better than the utterly bland and lifeless series we've gotten under Tom Taylor. Probably still would have gotten a bisexual Jon too, and maybe he would have even had a boyfriend with a personality as opposed to the drab Jay with whom there is no chemistry or sparks (I'm sorry I couldn't resist).
Everything about Clark is a mix of hilarious and infuriating. He's the one who causes the JL to dissolve, he retires to Africa - just like he did in Future's End which makes me think Didio was really enamored with that idea for some reason - and builds a super powered hit squad in secret which totally is at odds with him previously being all about being open. Safe bet he did that behind Lois' back, which feasibly could have led to the two divorcing and Lois siding with Jon. Bruce has to kill both Clark and himself to prevent Clark from destroying the Earth, and it doesn't seem like Clark and Jon would have reconciled before the end. Which means -
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- this is basically the 5G final fate of the Earth 0 Superman! Dying a failure at the end of a battle with his son, whom he constantly undermined and never let take charge. Even if Fraction's Jon book absolutely kicked ass, there would have been a backlash from the Clark diehards regardless. Speaking as someone who is quite fond of Clark and was excited at Jon's potential, in case that wasn't obvious, I would have been pissed at this being his "permanent" exit from the spotlight.
Batman's side of 5G sounds doomed to failure. The whole concept of Bruce being put on trial for Joker killing Bane sounds idiotic, Luke being determined to bring him in for that was not going to endear him to Bruce's fanbase. Pitting the new Batman - who was already going to be controversial by nature of being black and "cutting in line" ahead of the other choices regardless of how that was facilitated - against Bruce is insane. Bruce is the most popular DC hero and the general consumer base was NEVER going to side with Luke/Jace against him. Luke/Jace's sales would have absolutely tanked in the wake of Bruce's death, which I'm sure people would have blamed Luke/Jace for. Batman's fanbase would have been outright radicalized against the new guy, and if DC can't rely on Batman selling well, then they would have been screwed. For that reason alone I doubt 5G would have lasted beyond the 5 years Johns predicted it would last in Doomsday Clock. Sales would have forced DC to end the experiment and bring Bruce and Clark back to life.
Furthermore, the Justice Alliance book was going to be written by Tim Sheridan? That's who Didio picked to write what would have been the flagship book? No offense to the guy but a new Justice team meant to replace the JL needs an A-List writer. His Titans Academy book was dull in the extreme, none of his other comic work has been better than "ok". Puts the lie to claims that Didio was going to make sure that the 5G books had great creative teams because they "needed to put their best foot forward". Telling that there's no real info on what the plans were for WW, or Aquaman, or Flash beyond Yara, Jackson, and initially Bolt being their planned replacements.
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If 5G had gone ahead it would have been the New 52 2.0. Some great books would have been put out, likely the side books which would have been sadly overlooked, but the main core would have been trash. Fraction's Jon book might have been the equivalent to Scott Snyder's Batman run, an oasis of stability amidst constant implosions, but it alone could not make up for what seems like Didio running the line straight into the wall with his micromanaging. We ended up getting the good Clark books we would have gotten in 5G anyway with Morrison doing Superman & The Authority and Russell doing Space Age. Jon drew the short straw but the current era has simply been better overall for Superman than what we would have gotten, and there's still a chance that someone can salvage Jon. 5G being cancelled was a good thing after all.
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soleminisanction · 7 months
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Okay this misconception keeps coming across my dash and it drives me nuts because it means people are lumping two very different versions of the DC universe under one disparaging banner. So let me just say this to get it off my chest because I'm this close to shaking somebody:
The New 52 ended seven years ago in 2016.
That started a section of DC's history called "Rebirth" in which they started bringing elements of the pre-Flashpoint continuity back into the timeline. The first changes came in a big burst called Convergence -- which is how Jon Kent effectively manifested fully formed at 10 years old -- while other reintroductions like Kon-El, Bart Allen, Cass Cain, etc. were more gradual.
The original plan, being forced through by King of Bad Decisions Dan Didio, was that after ~4-5 Rebirth would give way to another full reboot known as 5G. I could go into detail about the plans but they're honestly not important to this post because Didio was (thankfully, finally) ousted from his role as publisher early in 2020, along with something like 80% of the higher-level editorial staff. DC had a complete creative turn-over at the start of the pandemic and completely changed directions as a result. The material being developed for 5G was retooled into the hypothetical future event "Future State" to buy the new staff time to pull together their new direction.
That new direction is called INFINITE FRONTIER. It started in 2021 and THAT is the era of DC comics we're in now. Infinite Frontier is an active push to bring back the pre-Flashpoint characters, as well as some pre-Crisis ideas and characters, while also keeping the few elements of the New 52 that people actually liked (like Jason Todd's more heroic characterization) and actively pursuing diversity initiatives both in creative staff and in creations. And outside of the big events, they're making a real effort to keep these comics short and self contained in the hopes that that'll make them more accessible. So it's actually really easy, if you read comics pre-Flashpoint and dropped off, to just pick up a series and go with the flow. Anything confusing is just a Google away.
Please, please don't make the mistake of thinking modern comics are as bad as the New 52 just because some people are butthurt their ship isn't getting canonized. There have been some really good comics made in the last few years that you should totally try! Spirit World, Monkey Prince and the entire We Are Legends line has been genuinely fantastic. The new Birds of Prey is shaping up to be a ton of fun. Dark Knights of Steel is an entertaining Elseworld. Urban Legends and Brave & the Bold have done some really fun things with shorter anthology books. One Minute War was a really fun Flash family event and everything Stargirl's done recently is liable to make you cry.
I'm begging people to give these comics a chance. It's just really sad to see them being dismissed out of hand.
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myrfing · 11 months
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imagine if a giant evil tower a twin tower maybe sprouted in washington dc and sent 5g waves out through all the states driving everyone mad and killing them unless you were listening to joe rogan podcast or foxnews which gave you some weird special frequency immunity and so the only people left in the country were hard right people who cant turn off fox news who are scared of medicine that isn’t for horses. This happened to Garlemald think before you speak
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clownoncall · 8 months
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What the Joker War was supposed to be like.
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❝ Then-Batman writer Tom King has mentioned that the death of Alfred Pennyworth – and keeping him dead – was to have been the beginning of 5G, planned by then-publisher Dan DiDio. That would see Bruce Wayne start losing his connection to humanity, as he regards Alfred as his real father. And King said that this will still have huge repercussions going forward, Alfred died in the City Of Bane storyline in Batman in 2019. However, in this version of events, the funeral drove the Batfamily apart rather than pulling them together. Specifically, Lucius Fox would offer support to Bruce, at the expense of his son Luke Fox. The following storyline which would later become The Joker War, was called Batman/ Joker: The Final Conflict, which then-Batman writer James Tynion IV has talked about. The Joker's assault on Gotham leads Batman to decide to stop Joker once and for all, especially after having only just lost Gotham – and Alfred – to Bane. Batman defeats the Joker, and traps him. But in a final twist, Batman lets the Joker go after the Joker whispers something in Batman's ear. It is later revealed to be a promise that if Batman lets the Joker go, then the Joker will kill Bane in revenge for the death of Pennyworth. And he is the only one who could.❞
Imagine what this scene could be like if it had a context of revenge. In this way, the Joker could "apologize" for what happened to Todd and Barbara, could get something more than the arch of redemption or death. Two archenemies equalize, come to understand each other. This is a literal batjokes reconciliation and Batman's recognition of his dark beginnings.
But Dan DiDio was fired in 2020 for unrelated matters, and then lockdowns hit, which saw the publication of 5G delayed. In that moment, DC Comics took the opportunity to junk the 5G plans, replace them with something else in the short term, and pulp what had already been printed.
I believe in the theory that the Joker War was the most batjokes story, if only because Dan DiDio and and his team have always been batjokes and Joker ambassadors. They were not afraid of the new, they broke the usual patterns. And they were idealists: in their world, both heroes and villains could be coexist and help each other. Just look at a couple of things where he was the editor or publisher. And also I believe because with his departure, the batjokes things in DC almost ceased to exist.
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P.S. I would also like to talk about Bobbie Chase, but that's for next time.
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