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mushroompineapplepizza · 1 year

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She's a Bicon 💗💜💙

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princess-of-the-corner · 7 months

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Don't know the full details other then the parts that upset people so bear with me.

Jon got sent to the future, I believe his parents thought he was dead but like a week later he's back but he's a teenager and apparently was in the future. People didn't like this because Damien wasn't aged up as well so it kind of ended Super Sons.

After this Clark has to go do something or something and after a conversation Jon get's the Super-Man title. He's also gay which made certain people upset because all they heard was "Super Man's gay" and so they went ClArK kEnT cAn'T bE gAy WhAt AbOuT lOiS.

Oh that sounds like all kinds of bullshit.

Good for him with being gay tho.

#actually brb i'm just gonna look up which dc characters are canonically lgbt #but yeah fuck the time nonsense

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dc-lgbt-zine · 2 years

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We've heard the people...and we will be releasing a character list soon!

*slaps roof of zine* this bad boy can fit so many canon characters in it

#dc lgbt zine #love is stored in the fanwork of canon LGBT+ characters

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imposterogers · 1 year

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neither studios are perfect but as time goes on there are very visible differences between how the mcu and the dceu handle things. the mcu lets minor characters be queer (or blink and u miss it one liners to confirm it). harley quinn is bisexual in both the live action verse and in a canon wlw relationship w poison ivy in the animated series. peacemaker is bisexual. they are not the only lgbt+ characters (there’s literally so many I can’t make a list w/o forgetting a few) but they are MAIN characters and their sexuality influences their stories. dc uses a ton of practical effects / films on location. say what u will about james gunn (and whatever direction he takes dc) but he’s a major advocate for practical effects. marvel continuously puts actors in green screen hell (even props like guns r cgi) bc vfx workers aren’t unionized. dc (think the batman) let’s the actors influence the script and their characters. peacemaker is bisexual bc of john cena. paul dano is writing a comic series about the riddler. the mcu doesn’t let their actors read the full scripts or have any input

it is interesting to me bc yes, both studios exist to make money, but one is slowly being ruined by corporate homophobia & ideals (nuclear families, military propaganda, etc)

#dceu #mcu #hmm #delete later

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ultimateheadcanontournament · 11 months

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Round Two

Danny Fenton

"His only stable clone is of the opposite gender, he's hiding his identity from his parents, and a lot of other details people have compiled"

"That entire post about reasons why Danny is trans

Excerpts:

The main plot of the show can be read as a metaphor for being queer

Danny is the only boy who wears a shirt to the waterpark

There was a stable, female clone of him named Danni

One ghost attempted to touch his chest and he immediately and forcefully pulled back while seeming extremely uncomfortable"

Guy Gardener

"He is so transgender to me. He’s a trans man in my eyes. He’s canonically bad at naming things (cat named katt, replies 'good name' (serious) when told that they were calling a guy 'the weird' because all the readings on him are so weird, best code name he could come up with was 'warrior') so naming himself Guy is a natural fit. He gets alien shapeshifting/healing powers at one point which results in him being genuinely concerned when a teammate jokes about him possibly being pregnant. There’s also a comment about how 'even your voice has changed'. He overcompensates with his masculinity. In his main team (the justice league international) he mostly only gets acknowledged to be yelled at, sometimes because he deserved it, but sometimes because he’s taking up space (which will happen to trans mascs in lgbt spaces a lot) (and the whole jli is very queer coded so…). And in the post 2011 DC universe (New 52) most characters treat him in a hostile manner even though the reputation for crudeness he’d built in the 80s was retconned so he basically gets a negative reaction for no reason which again mirrors the trans masc experience in lgbt spaces. He’s also been subjected to two different genderbend storylines, a one shot in the 90s and an ongoing story in the 2010s."

"Many reasons - because I said so, because he is bad at naming things (names his cat 'Katt,' thinks 'The Weird' is a good name for a thing that is weird) so him coming out and naming himself 'Guy' is not that absurd (and its also really funny), his whole character predicates upon trying to meet masculine standards and also being criticized when he DOES meet those standards (very common experience amongst transmascs specifically), he also tends to seem to overcompensate his masculinity… um, which is also a common transmasc experience. He really likes being a man. Very transgender. But also I mean, I said so, so it's true."

#round 2 #danny phantom #dc comics #danny fenton #guy gardner #tournament poll

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therealladylucifer · 8 months

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Nobody mentions Jay or Bernard because they don’t have a personality outside of “boyfriend” bc DC thinks queer relationships can’t have depth outside of “uwuwwu cute boys in love” and it doesn’t help they’ve all only been written by straight people. Just because there is lgbt rep doesn’t mean it quality lgbt rep.

This is inaccurate Jay is pretty clearly outlined as a reporter who cares deeply about justice and his country of Gamorra. Granted I know less about Bernard because I haven't read Tim Drake: Robin but he's got a personality, too, which is specifically outlined in his interest in Gotham's vigilantes. In my opinion, people just aren't interested in getting to know Jay and Bernard as characters because they have their hearts set on Jon and Tim dating Dami and Kon (respectively) and aren't interested in getting to know these new characters.

(By the way, I do want to say that I have nothing against Timkon or Jondami. I think they're perfectly fine ships and I don't dislike them at all. I just think it's a little annoying that there are so many fans of Timkon and Jondami and no one talks about their actual, canonical boyfriends.)

#btw this is my first anon that has come into my inbox to dispute my opinions! so exciting for me #maybe i'll get a death threat next!#tim drake #bernard dowd #kon el superboy #damian wayne #jay naka #jon kent #timber #jonjay

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fanhackers · 6 months

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How do fans engage with the source material when there’s already canonical queer representation?

Rachel Marks looks at the fandoms for the DC Comics TV shows (like Flash, Supergirl, Arrow, and DC’s Legends of Tomorrow), which have been including queer characters since 2014 when the characters Sara Lance and Nyssa al Ghul shared a kiss in Arrow. Read the whole article for free, which is in the newest issue of the open access journal, Transformative Works and Cultures: “Fan perspectives of queer representation in DC's Legends of Tomorrow on Tumblr and AO3.”

Marks finds:

Fans generally appreciate and care about queer representation in Legends, but they often overlook representation of people of color. For instance, pairings with characters of color get less attention.

Canon queer pairings get the most attention, but noncanonical pairings are still common.

“In sum, Legends fans show their appreciation for canon queer representation in television by frequently featuring canonically queer characters in their posts, highlighting the positive qualities of those characters and their relationships. Fans appreciate seeing multiple LGBT characters represented on television and get enjoyment out of seeing same-sex couples being couples on screen. However, this is not all they focus on when blogging or writing fic about their favorite characters or ships. Fans want to enjoy viewing canonically queer couples and queer characters on television, but they also want to enjoy alternative interpretations in which noncanonical ships are read for their subtextual elements. Fans simultaneously enjoy watching and creating content about a show that has canonical queer representation, while continuing the queer fan tradition of forming their own interpretations of queer characters and relationships.”

-Lianne, Fanhackers volunteer

#fan studies #fandom #queer communities #race and fandom #fanhackers #author: lianne

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theblognameistaken · 2 months

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I never really shipped anyone with Damian, except for Jon (which I'm skeptical of it) but with the DC messing Jon up by aging him. And Jon has a boyfriend now (good for him) it's rare to see a canon good LGBT presentation centered around the comics, that's why I love Ivy and Harley. Raven and Damian ship makes me icky due to the age gap...

Seeing Damian with Nika, I actually grew to love it, mostly because of the fandom nurturing it. It's so refreshing to see the DC comics doing well at Damian's character for once... I hope there is no writer who kills Flatline, because I swear to god— I will lose my mind.

#daminika #Damian wayne #Flatline

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scribe-of-maat · 10 months

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Ranking DC Pride 2023

9. Love’s Lightning Heart (???, ???)

Starring The Flashlight and The Flash, I think? When he called the dude “Ray” in the beginning I thought it was gonna be The Ray, you know? This only scores so low because I’m not at ALL familiar with anything Multiversity and this story especially seemed to be absolutely thick with that corner of DC lore. I get there’s a Parallax type of thing happening but... this was kind of hard to follow for a payoff that’s pretty lukewarm if you’re not well-versed in who this story’s about.

8. My Best Bet (Jon Kent/Superman, John Constantine

This is hit especially hard in my ranking because it’s the last story in the book and the only thing DC Pride about it is that it stars two Bs. They’re popular queer characters but I’m here for stories that are specifically ABOUT LGBT stuff, not about LGBT people doing stuff. There’s nothing to really talk about here.

7. Found (Xanthe Zhou, Batwoman/Kate Kane)

I’ve been meaning to read Spirit World, and since I hadn’t gotten around to it Xanthe being LGBT was a surprise to me, but not as much as Kate Kane showing up was. It feels like someone threw a dartboard at WLW women and plopped in whoever came up, cuz I guarantee if I flip the newest Batwoman issue open to a random page she’ll have a girlfriend-slash-situationship that won’t be too happy about her seeming receptive to some flirting. But hey, I like Xanthe more now so there’s give-and-take.

6. And Baby Makes Three (Xiomara Rojas/Crush, Harleen Quinzel/Harley Quinn, Pamela Isley/Poison Ivy)

I like Crush. I can’t claim to have read much of her, because for now that means enduring way too much Damian Wayne, but she seems like an incredibly interesting character. But I could not tell you why she’s here with Harley and Ivy. This, moreso than anything else, has a less than negative chance of being referenced again and it’s giving me even more of that dartboard feeling the last story did. Plus if there’s one thing Harlivy can do, it’s carry a story by themselves. I wish we’d gotten something about JUST Crush, is what I’m saying. I feel like this was a status update for Crush, like her washing ashore was meant to bridge the gap between this story and whatever she was doing the last time she showed up.

5. Teamwork Makes the Dream Work (Natasha Irons/Steel, Nubia)

Listen, I will always have space in my heart for the Irons family. I love Natasha, and I love John Henry, and when DC lets either out of the ether every other year I’m front and center. That, and the recent super-push Nubia has been enjoying made this story one I was pretty excited to read when I realized who it was about. But THIS ART. These faces are TRASH. Even without looking it up I feel like there’s a 0% chance DC would give a nonblack artist this story, so it makes it especially confusing as to why the characters look like THAT. The actual content was fun and even though Io needs to come up off our queen posthaste, I didn’t have any (other) complaints. But it’s SOOOOO UGLYYYYY.

4. The Dance ( Minhkhoa Khan/Ghost-Makes, Thomas Blake/Catman)

I knew Ghost-Maker was bi prior to reading this, somehow. I’ve been meaning to read anything about him because his design is so awesome but I was only really guessing this was Catman alongside him. I really don’t know anything about him, so this ranks so highly just because of Ghost-Maker. I don’t really have anything else to add here since this story’s ultimate purpose seems to just show off muscley dudes post-sex.

3. Anniversary (Lucas Trent/Midnighter, Andrew Pulaski/Apollo, Alan Scott/Green Lantern)

These showcases tend to have like, one story that directly addresses inequality if you’re lucky. This is that story, and it’s such a good one. Midnighter and Apollo’s fame as the canon gay Superbat sort of eclipses anything else about them, but that reputation is put to excellent effect here. Plus, Alan Scott, one of my favorite Green Lanterns, finally shows up. Revitalizing that old slogan to make it clear the LGBT isn’t going anywhere was fun, too.

2. Subspace Transmission (Jules Jourdain/Circuit Breaker, Jess Chambers/The Flash, Andy Curry/Aquawoman)

Jess was an extremely fun and memorable character from the start like, half a decade ago and that holds true here. I was super uninvested in the Circuit Breaker part of this story. I don’t know who that is, and even after reading this I genuinely don’t care. This made my heart hurt for more Teen Justice and Future State stuff in general. That Jackson Hyde cameo at the end was also perfect.

1. Hey, Stranger (Connor Hawke/Hawke, Tim Drake/Robin)

I was definitely in diapers the last time these two characters spoke to each other. When there’s been THAT big a gap in timeframe I can’t be sure how emotional a reunion can be to a modern readership. None of that matters to my enjoyment, because Connor Hawke is far and away my favorite Arrowfam member and his recent resurgence (even if too much of it is attached to Damian Wayne for my taste) has been such a blessing. DC only trots this guy out three times a year but god do we eat good each time. They just need to do a LITTLE more with him.

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verlierer-is-lost · 1 year

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I think it’s important to have the conversation that mlm shows are treated a lot better than wlw shows. Most sapphic tv shows don’t even make it past one season and are canceled. The same thing happens to mlm shows, just not to that extent. It’s unfair and it should make everyone angry, not just those who are most affected.

All that to say, Heartstopper and YR shouldn’t be getting hate because of it. It’s possible to talk about this without putting down other queer shows. Yeah Heartstopper is a good example of mlm shows getting treated better because of the whole “white cis male gays” thing, does not mean you can’t have valid criticisms without shitting on it. But it goes the same way for certain Heartstopper and YR fans. Y’all gotta stop dismissing the anger of the wlw community just because those are your favorite shows.

This reminds me a lot of when Jon Kent(Superman’s son) was announced to be bisexual last year, and so many people were angry that it wasn’t Kon instead. The DC fandom got a whole new canon queer character, but y’all threw a tantrum because it wasn’t the character you wanted(not all but a lot)

Some of you guys don’t actually care about representation and it shows. This isn’t something that people in the lgbt community should be arguing about.This is actually the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen

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canonlgbtcharacteroftheday · 2 years

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The canon LGBT+ character of today is:

Connor Hawke from DC Prime Earth who is asexual

#connor hawke #dc #DC comics #dc prime earth #green arrow #canon lgbt #asexual

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confusedhummingbird · 1 month

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gonna probably get shit for it but I am prob the one of few online who don't see any of the 3 main titan girls (star/rae/donna) as lgbtqia+ chars? I mean theres a lot of chars on dc I like that are lbgtqia+ but with them specially Kory I can't see it do you think I am wrong? genuine ask, I see them as heterosexual, offtopic: fr the thought of Star without Dick is bad. no one likes dickbbs srsly it is almost ridiculous how tom taylor is forced I mean just let dickkory be = clois as it should be

No I don't think you're wrong. While I could see see any of the girls being LGBT,I personally see Kory as someone who is pansexual, if you don't see them that way that's completely fine. None of them having been confirmed so it's not like you're denying canon LGBT characters from being LGBT so I don't think there's an issue.

I also agree. I love Dick and Kory together. To me they're soulmates and I'd love for them to just be together officially.

#dc comics #Asks #Donna Troy #Koriand'r #Rachel Roth #Dickkory #Troia #Starfire #Raven

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cantsayidont · 4 months

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A couple of other common "no-homo" variations as applied in Popular Media Today:

ne'er-homo: Where a character is considered so important to a story or franchise that the publisher/network/studio/creators/rightsholders will never, ever, ever entertain the notion of canonically establishing them as LGBT, no matter how much homoerotic content or deliberate gay-baiting the canon may contain, and where even outing a related character (e.g., the offspring of a counterpart of the character from another dimension or timeline) may require tense meetings with corporate.

despair-homo: Where introducing or establishing an LGBT character becomes a pretense for torturing them unmercifully for being LGBT. This became very common in the 1980s, where the return or introduction of a gay character was frequently a cue for a Very Special Episode in which they die of AIDS and/or gay-bashing, but it continues to occur with distressing frequency, as with DC's deplorable, consistently ghoulish treatment of Alan Scott since 2012.

au-contraire-homo: Where a character in an ongoing series or franchise who was previously established as canonically LGBT is subsequently rebooted or recreated as Definitely Cishet, using some kind of narrative contrivance to wash the gay (or the trans) away, sometimes retroactively.

#movies #teevee #comics #homophobia #i read the first issue of the tim sheridan/clay tormey #alan scott green lantern miniseries #and it's even worse than i expected in this regard #the vile 1994 legion of super-heroes reboot does a lot of au-contraire-homo retcons #one of the reasons i hate it so much #the early issues of the jamie delano hellblazer series #give him an old gay friend who has aids AND is gay-bashed to death #and of course there's fucking sandman #no-homo variations in popular media

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ectonurites · 2 years

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…ok the next DC:YJ issue (#5) isn’t out yet (aside from the preview and a leaked page) but I wanna briefly talk about this criticism/sentiment i’ve seen in at least three or four separate posts across here and twitter:

Several people confused/frustrated by Meghan seeming to characterize Young Justice fans (via Mickey) as conservative homophobic sexist racist etc dudebros- when the Young Justice fandom they are familiar with is largely made up of a completely different diverse group of people. Plus the 1998 book itself being unfairly misrepresented as less progressive than it actually was in order to justify this.

To which there’s two points I’d like to bring up:

1. Meghan Fitzmartin is the one writing this book. Meghan Fitzmartin who wrote the story in which Tim became canonically bisexual. Meghan Firzmartin who has been constantly berated and criticized and sent hate by the vocal toxic homophobic Tim fans that think she ruined the character! A lot of those people aren’t fans of just Tim- they’re fans of Tim’s generation (in many instances because stuff like Young Justice 1998 was current back when they were getting into comics). And plenty are opposed to any change, not just characters coming out as LGBT, but more diversity in comics in general- more lead characters of color, more lead women, etc. The tumblr- and like stan dctwt- sections of the DC fandom might be what you see the most as a user of those communities, but they are not the only part of the fandom, not the majority, and not even necessarily the most vocal.

2. @gwynerso said the other thing I wanna communicate well when discussing misrepresentation of Young Justice 1998:

I think the whole point was that it was progressive, given the whole point is that Mikey had to heavily twist the guys memories and remove Cassie to make his “point”. Whilst we can talk about writing quality and whether it hits its mark or not, it’s definitely a critique of (x)

the sort of fan who will ignore the progressive elements of what they like to paint it in the gross light they want it to have. If it wasn’t progressive, Bart, Tim and Kon wouldn’t have noticed the dissonance. Mikey’s powers are reality bending on both ends like his dad’s. (x)

Because, as stated earlier, those types of fans of YJ do definitely exist and they are in Meghan’s twitter notifications on a pretty regular basis (plus I wouldn’t be surprised by some irl encounters at conventions she’s attended since UL #6 dropped). Maybe they’re not the ones reading the book (and even if they are, they’re obviously not the only ones) but it’s still a toxic mindset that’s within the comics community and she is actively painting that mindset as being the villain here (which goes along with the general theme in both this book and Dark Crisis as an event that things can’t/shouldn’t just go back to ‘how they were’ because things have changed, modern comics can’t just be ruled by nostalgia)

I think there is definitely fair discussion to be had about whether this was the book/story that was needed for these characters right now (I personally at this point don’t really think it was, in large part because a lot of problems/unfair treatment the YJ generation has faced were more editorial’s fault than the fanbase’s, and that’s something hard to actually approach through an in-universe story), I think there are certainly elements/execution/characterization worth criticizing (I’m just… waiting to formulate my final thoughts on any of that until we have the whole story, because the context of the ending could absolutely change/explain things), but it feels like so many people are just looking for reasons to be angry without taking a step back to think about the larger picture/larger comics community. Without trying to think about what is actually being communicated here and instead just getting defensive.

#please don’t take this as me vaguing any specific person though i’m just #saying all this because of how frequently i’ve been seeing people say stuff like this over the last day or so #and slight side tangent but #I also feel like a lot of people (in the tumblr and dctwt subsection of the fandom)#liked Sum of Our Parts a lot #and thus came into this book with really high expectations and strong ideas about what they wanted #and this book turning out to be different than what was wanted/expected has made people #look for more reasons to be angry about it whether consciously or not #idk man 🤷‍♂️#grandpa max is god? i go to church now

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imposterogers · 1 year

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marvel: here is one (1) lgbt+ character and we r canonizing it w a blink-or-you-miss-it moment

dc, after canonizing three per week including main characters: what, like it's hard?

#dc #marvel #like there are SO many lgbt+ characters in dc its kind of crazy

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ultimateheadcanontournament · 1 year

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Round One

Guy Gardener

"He is so transgender to me. He’s a trans man in my eyes. He’s canonically bad at naming things (cat named katt, replies “good name” (serious) when told that they were calling a guy “the weird” because all the readings on him are so weird, best code name he could come up with was “warrior”) so naming himself Guy is a natural fit. He gets alien shapeshifting/healing powers at one point which results in him being genuinely concerned when a teammate jokes about him possibly being pregnant. There’s also a comment about how “even your voice has changed”. He overcompensates with his masculinity. In his main team (the justice league international) he mostly only gets acknowledged to be yelled at, sometimes because he deserved it, but sometimes because he’s taking up space (which will happen to trans mascs in lgbt spaces a lot) (and the whole jli is very queer coded so…). And in the post 2011 DC universe (New 52) most characters treat him in a hostile manner even though the reputation for crudeness he’d built in the 80s was retconned so he basically gets a negative reaction for no reason which again mirrors the trans masc experience in lgbt spaces. He’s also been subjected to two different genderbend storylines, a one shot in the 90s and an ongoing story in the 2010s."

"Many reasons - because I said so, because he is bad at naming things (names his cat "Katt," thinks "The Weird" is a good name for a thing that is weird) so him coming out and naming himself "Guy" is not that absurd (and its also really funny), his whole character predicates upon trying to meet masculine standards and also being criticized when he DOES meet those standards (very common experience amongst transmascs specifically), he also tends to seem to overcompensate his masculinity… um, which is also a common transmasc experience. He really likes being a man. Very transgender. But also I mean, I said so, so it's true."

Kaladin

"Reasons Kal is aroace: He's just had a lot of little moments. Like one time he had to take shelter in a very cramped space with a young woman around his age and they were huddled together and he was thinking 'wow it's been a while since I've been this close to a woman' but then later on he realized that he had platonic feelings for her because she reminded him of his dead little brother. And there was one chapter where his friends were talking about setting him up with someone and he was NOT having it. Plus, he loves his friends. He's a military officer, and he cares deeply about his men. His main motivation in life is to protect them and his other loved ones. :)"

#tournament poll #round 1 #dc comics #green lantern #guy gardener #stormlight archive #kaladin stormblessed

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