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Final one, low key cannot decide what'd be a more fun set up for the Aware of Abuse AU. Classic Chat & Ladybug, a rich kid trio somehow, or a Quartet, even more somehow, or even a five/six person team with a 3 to 3 split.
Regardless, low key taking these from a different chat, Kagami's Akuma:
Aku-Gami: (Bursts into Mansion) Mother, face me!! Tomoe: What a ridiculous display, cease this at once. Aku-Gami: There it is, your hypocrisy mother. Tomoe: You dare-
Aku-Gami: You raise a warrior but demand she become a docile wife! You train a soldier and expect her to be a slave! Your aspirations and commands are insane and contradictory! Tomoe: Your refusal to accept reality or your role is not on my shoulders!
Aku-Gami: Let us see then if you can live to your own standards! Aku-Gami: (Sword blast that turns Tomoe into a incomprehensible mix of hyper traditional wife & daughter on one side, kitted out warrior on the other, maybe overlaid with a school uniform meant to look like a business suit. You get the gist I imagine.)
Chloe: Ooh, maybe she shouldn't be foiled just yet. Adriem: One of us, one of us, one of us!
Let her go a little feral!
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I should note that in the perma Chat fic:
Plagg is still around. He & Adrien can and do swap out control of his body. Adrien does indeed not have a home & is cut off from his loved one's (Which especially messes him up when he hears about Chloe basically breaking down then disappearing) But he is also loving the chance to go out, explore and generally run a bit wild and such.
Its only been about 8 days since he woke up in universe & the first day was mostly Plagg. He does plan to figure out a living situation eventually but then got distracted by Chloe's disappearance.
Still sad, but he's being optimistic about it.
Still an oof but at least there's Plagg!
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Second last one I swear, but one final hurdle for them all would be general miscommunication. Say Chloe does throw a pre school party, but Marinette brings food; Chloe doesn't insult it but is confused.
She's hosting, she supplies the good, is this a jab at the hotel or what? Meanwhile Marinette takes the confusion as a jab at her parents cooking cos guests bringing food is super normal to her.
Stuff like that would be so easy to happen and at the very least foster annoyance. Much in the same way Chloe buying someone an apology gift can be taken as a bribe. Where as she might be fifty fifty.
Cos on one hand its like her dad to buy use gifts to compensate for absence or emotional support. On the other hand, gifts are generally good and well received, & she put in effort to get someone something they'd like or a replacement for something gone.
There'd be similar stuff with Adrien or even Kagami and so on where the lack of context alone, or subtle differences born of class divide can foster mis-communication and vexation with neither side in the wrong.
God though yeah just the miscommunication for how things are done.
Because yeah all the parties Chloé goes to are catered events where she just has to show up all food is prepared. She's the Host it's her Job.
But Mari was raised to never attend a party without contributing food, and said parties are often ones where bringing food is very welcomed! Smaller groups of normal people rather than a fancy gala.
And then yeah the gifts! All apologies from her dad were just him saying sorry, throwing a gift at her, and then continuing his previous behavior without change. So that's how it works! She doesn't have to change, she just has to say sorry and cheer them up with a gift! Which, technically, is a bribe to be able to get away with bad behavior. But it's also entirely genuine!
Re: Adrien you already mentioned on how Adrien's casual disrespect for his father would rub Mari the wrong way at first because like. Hey that's your dad you're supposed to respect your parents above all else they love and care for you! and it's a while before she realizes that Adrien's feelings are from Gabe's abuse and not being an entitled brat.
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Re- that ask where Adrien 'dies' and gets stuck as perma Chat Noir...
That sucks.
He has no way to detransform.
Plagg's just not around anymore.
Chat has no home.
He has nothing.
OOF
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A fascinating shift
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Also swinging back around to the Todoroki Drama™ it's.
It's very sad but also kinda funny how little the kids know about their parents and how they'll react to things/how they feel on things?
Like Chapter 36 has Natsuo and Shoto being like 'we're all gay but we're not going to tell dad because he'd def be homophobic about it'. Meanwhile in reality Enji is a fucking moron bisexual who doesn't know gay sex exists even though /technically/ he's had a husband for the past 25 years(yes I'm still rolling with transmasc!Rei).
And a future bit in the fic is going to have Shoto assuming that Enji would have a dislike of people with Mutation Quirks, unaware of the family's actual genetics or people that Enji cares about and that he holds contempt for those who do have that dislike or that the entire reason the family switched dentists was because the previous practice wanted to file down the kids' teeth.
And it's.
Obviously this is mostly Enji's fault because he's been focused on other things that the kids... really don't get to know him properly. Don't really have any assurance that he's a safe person to discuss these subjects with. But it's still just kinda fascinating how different it is.
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Great response, sorry XD and this line in particular jumped out at me for a different surprise reason:
She just doesn't understand why someone with a Perfect Life™ would change without going through some kind of suffering that forces introspection.
Because I am reminded of a fic that managed to speedily (Seemingly) weave in a Chloe redemption arc & Marinette friendship within the first like, week of the new school year in a totally believable way.
Long story short, Adrien fucking died during Stoneheart.
Specifically, he got crushed by a thrown car before he even got into his house. Gabriel went into a depression slump & Marinette blames herself.
Then she gets to class before anyone but Chloe whose not wearing make up, her hairs barely above a rats nest and she's wearing what is obviously a boys over shirt and quietly crying.
She's too nice to ignore that and then she finds out Chloe is crying about a boy "so lonely & so kind" he could evoke such grief and love from a girl Marinette previously thought incapable of those things.
Then Chloe completely breaks down in her arms & just... Does not bounce back to her usual energy after that.
Marinette, as well as a few others, continue to be gentle presences. To the point where Sabrina gives Marinette's picture to the door man so she can go up to Chloe's if she wants.
Then later, Chloe gets Akumatized into "Anti Hero" but she ignored Gabriel's orders for a week because her focus is on "saving everyone, no one else will lose anyone like I lost Adrien."
So yeah, that kind of event is one I can easily see Marinette perceiving as both revealing new depth to Chloe & that she could rationalize as inspiring change, thus inviting her understanding.
Also spoiler but Adrien's not for real dead, he got mixed with a butterfly, Plagg and Gabriel's wish to become perma Chat Noir.
Just thought that was interesting and a good contrast to show ways in which Marinette can be super compassionate and reach out. VS circumstances under which it would go against her every instinct to do so & both being totally valid reads on the character.
Semi-rip to Adrien but also like.
Yeah just. Showing how much Chloé can genuinely care for another person goes a long ass way toward the shattering of the illusion that she's a 2-dimensional bitch.
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Sorry, one more musing on the Aware of Abuse AU regarding Chloe's behavioral adjustments and how she handles them or doesn't:
Type 1: Adjusting Sabrina: Would you like some cookies I made? Chloe: Ew, no, I don't want to risk something you made. Sabrina (Cringes in hurt or outright cries) Chloe: Wait! Ignore that! Belay those words! That was my parents talking, I'd love to try them! Sabrina: (OO) Oh, OK!
Type 2: Not adjusting Marinette: You were out of line as usual. Chloe: How was I out of line? It was a legitimate question! Marinette: Because you made Mylene cry, you jerk! Chloe: She's the one who chose to star in a horror film even though she hates being scared! I was not wrong for asking why!
Basically, if she evokes hurt & is not jumped on, she can course correct, or be guided to do so. On the other hand if someone gets defensive or sharp with her, then she instantly falls into fight mode.
I think it was a post of your I recall seeing that made me think of it. Namely, the one about how on Bustier's birthday Chloe was minding her own business until everyone got on her case. & then she decided to lash out.
Similar case here, she meets perceived hostility with hostility, but is much more open to the idea she's hurting someone as her parents hurt her and more willing to address that.
Oh yeah basically!
It's a lot easier for her to recognize that she hurt someone when they act, well. Hurt. Sad or crying. Obviously she made them feel bad, right? Obviously that was wrong, right?
But when someone reacts with anger, it doesn't quite feel like they're genuinely upset to her. It feels more like a 'how dare you not act like how I want!?' like with her mother.
And yeah that goes double in situations like Horrificator where she didn't intend to do something wrong. She wasn't /trying/ to make Mylene cry, just frustratedly snapping at the situation like everyone else was. There wasn't malice. So while she'll feel sorry for acting that way to Mylene, she'd defend herself from Marinette yelling at her about it.
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Glad you liked the submission, as I have more on the Aware of Abuse AU!
I think it would be really interesting to reflect on how this situation would be kind of a drawn out grapple for Marinette. This is in no way salt and I think if it was written she'd both warrant having hear grievances hear, but also could definitely come off as a bit antagonistic, or at least wary.
(Exactly how hostile she defaulted to with Chloe tended to oscillate episode to episode so ya know how it be)
Marinette would have the easiest time getting close with Kagami. She has no history like with Chloe & no baggage, IE friendship with Chloe, like Adrien. Tomoe is not someone Marinette admires and its much easier to see abuse in the physicals side. While she'd struggle to see it more in the verbal or negligence side; or otherwise be able to rationalize the negative behaviors such as over protectiveness.
Meanwhile Adrien would be tied a lot closer to Chloe going into school as she'd be being less overtly antagonistic or vain. Plus, they'd have a much stronger "We need each other to keep from falling back into old patterns and to survive" mentality.
Plus Adrien would be a bit more overtly snarky and less respectful to authority or stuff like Gabriel's fashion shows. He still is very nice and super wants to be liked by everyone all the time, but it'd be a lot easier for her to see the negatives in his behavior.
Chloe meanwhile would probably rankle and outright frustrate her the most. Not just because she'd still be hard to get along with in general, or because she still is not against ignoring rules or disrespecting authority figures. But because...
No clue what your religious views may or may not be, but have you heard those talks of "Catholic guilt" and the idea of needing to suffer, do penance, ETC before one can be redeemed?
Marinette wouldn't strictly think or want that, but there would be a part of her that would sort of... Well resent that Chloe is seemingly just choosing to change and not even necessarily enough.
That is to say, Chloe might still rudely reject Sabrina's cookies out of hand but then instantly walk it back and have some.
But more in that she's suffered no defeat, she's not been taken from her previous luxurious circumstances, she hasn't seemingly lost anything and even more she'd not even be overtly contrite.
That is to say, Chloe wouldn't be doing stuff akin to the Lady Luck AU (Nothing against it, great fic!) where she'd frequently reflect on how much of a 'fuck up' she was. Or or say stuff like, "I know I was a bitch but I am trying to be better". Or feel guilt in the "I can't even be mad they assume the worst of me cos I probably would have done X."
She's just choosing to be different and on some level its deeply unsatisfying and even frustrating.
(Where is the arc, the climax, the catharsis!?)
Especially if some people roll with it or let her get away with it when she starts falling into old habits.
Marinette doesn't want Chloe to suffer or beg forgiveness or hate herself she doesn't. She just doesn't understand why now? Why at all? Why because of her friend? Why because of how she was treated and not how she treated others?
Why couldn't she care enough about hurting Marinette to change!?
That I think would be the lynch-pin and one that is, from Marinette's perspective, as well as others in and out of universe entirely sympathetic, she was hurt after all.
But in that same vain Chloe's an abused child lashing out due to trauma and taught such terrible lessons she sometimes couldn't process that she wasn't doing 'right'.
Marinette's been hurt, and that would need to be properly addressed. But it wouldn't need to happen in a self recriminating manner necessarily.
Not that I don't love those, self hating characters rife with issues are fun to explore. It is just that I think it'd be interesting to explore both, changing as a person, and a "Bad" victim getting help before they actually even start processing over much how others might warrant reoperations.
Does that make sense?
The story "restorative Justice" sort of dips into this from a different middle ground angle and most stuff by Generalluxun often have elements of it too.
Oh yeah no it's.
Marinette doesn't understand why Chloé is Like That™ in the first place, so she can't fathom her wanting to change.
From Mari's perspective, Chloé's life is pretty perfect. She's beautiful, she's rich. She can do whatever she wants whenever she wants and always gets her way through money or influence. She's always bragging about how she's so much better than everyone. Clearly her parents must adore her because they spoil her with gifts and never tell her 'no'. Any 'hardships' are just minor inconveniences that Chloé brought upon herself by being mean.
So why would Chloé choose to change? If it's not broke, don't fix it. Chloé's life is Perfect™, why would she do something to make it different?
It's not that she wants Chloé to suffer, or thinks that she /should/ suffer. She just doesn't understand why someone with a Perfect Life™ would change without going through some kind of suffering that forces introspection.
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How does Bombshell look?
Keeping the nerdy theme or???
God I swear I drew her once but I can't find it! Though tbh I need to redraw all my Kwamiswaps but I digress.
ANyway!
Not really a nerdy theme because that's not really Chloé's vibes. I did remember giving her an oversized bomber jacket. Both for the pun and because it's one of those kinda. Like the vibe of the jacket being a shield in a way?
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Was musing on the "Aware of Abuse" AU for the Sad Rich Kids Trio and ho it influences their behavior, or how their perspective has shifted, from least to most detailed:
Adrien: He is not overtly super different, in canon he was already expressing frustration with his father and ducking out from under his control to do what he wanted.
The main shift is rooted in his perspective. Namely that if his father does love him (Doubt) then his love is so toxic Adrien wants no part of it. He deems any concession Gabriel makes suspicious at best and deems any lingering affection on his own part as a childish thing he needs to outgrow.
Beyond that he's simply more blunt, he doesn't make excuses for his father and is a bit more aware of how the other kids parenting sucks. This ironically may actually make it harder for he & Marinette as she'd struggle to see what was wrong early on and presume him kind of a brat or rude for disrespecting his father so much.
Kagami: As one might expect given how heavily controlling and authoritive Tomoe is, Kagami has very little wiggle room to openly defy her or act differently without risking being trapped or extremely harsh punishment,
As a result the shift is more in subtle things and how she communicates and views the relationship. Namely, she does not love her mother and only pays lip service to respecting anything other than her material skills as a combatant. She also feels that given what her mother does to her is largely indistinguishable from hatred (The physical nature of sparring sessions & training are deeply unpleasant) that Tomoe's feelings don't matter.
Thus she's more overt around others in her disregard for her mother and already prone to trying to sneak off or undercut her. She has burner phones and secret social media accounts for example. In this regard she likely does not become Riposte.
Instead her emotions would be mostly fear of her mothers reaction & anger at the situation and what this costs her in general. Thus she likely turns into something intent on seeking her mother out and attacking her, or otherwise trying to force her mother into her shoes. I had a name for this I think, Aku-Gami? Anyway its basically a signal flare to Adrien & Chloe of "One of us! One of us! One of us!"
Chloe: Like with Adrien her shift would be fairly recent. Mostly in response to the clusterfuck handling of Adrien after Emilie's disappearance & her parents being their worst selves about it. She was on her last thread from keeping Adrien's head above water then being booted and so she explodes at her mother over the phone & rejects her father out of anything but necessity. After which she doubles down because she can't un-dig this hole but she can sure as fuck make it big enough to engulf them all.
Put simply, Chloe's ingrained "Fight" mentality has now been turned on her parents in full. She'd still struggle to articulate most of the things they did wrong, or why they were wrong. But she is angry, rebellious and good at lashing out so she does that and only concedes when she has no other choice or legitimately terrified.
Despite this her changes are less overt, her fight mentality is a survival mechanism like Adrien's people pleasing so she can't just turn it off. She's still been actively taught a lot of terrible things like its moral to cheat to win, & un-learning that is hard, especially if doing so makes you feel weak. & She's been mimicking Audrey since forever, that doesn't just go away over night.
At the same time though she has more freedom than the others & any overt issues she can identify she can try to address for good & ill. Her dad thinks she shouldn't hang around with people "beneath her station" Well screw that she's throwing a party in the ballroom for the class/school before the new school year starts & Adrien can come too.
This likely means she doesn't rip up Rose's letter cos that was like, peak Audrey. She might be tempted to do the social media thing with Kim cos that is something someone might do, but she'd also be more able to apologize for it. She may indeed still lock Juleka in the bathroom, unless they are like, actively friendly at this point.
A lot depends on how well her shifts in behavior are taken by the class as she's not gonna suddenly be super self aware or easy to get along with in many regards. Though given S1 still had Kim get a crush on her & Rose trust her with a letter, I tend to feel it makes more sense that not everyone had a bad impression of Chloe going into the year. So it'd vary.
Regardless, Chloe would be both the most extreme in shift, while keeping a lot of thorns. But she'd be more open to changing in general if able to contextualize a negative reaction as tied to something her parents would do, letting her aggressively reject it. If she feels 'she' was in the right though, she'd not shift her behavior at all but dig in deeper.
Fucking hell I do go on don't I?
Oh I love all of this though!!
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That’s her V/A (Minako Kotobuki) in an outfit themed around the character.
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This is Saint Germain in Symphogear
my first thought is just god maintaining that hair must be a nightmare.
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I realized Evil Tink's outfit is basically the same as Shadybugs well the top part anyway
little bit!
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Shilling Symphogear once more bc I’m watching the recording of the 2020 -> 2022 Live concert and I completely forgot that Saint-Germain had a song in XV so I was so hyped when she/her v/a showed up as a guest star
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oh she's pretty!
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Now I'm imagining a senti fire truck that spits out real fire...A real FIRE Truck...A akumatized fire fighter and a senti Fire Truck
HA!
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I mean, bear in mind, Midoriya ALSO canonically stole All Might merch from Sir Nighteye while his corpse was still warm, so...
It MIGHT have less to do with it being Bakugo specifically and more to do with the destroyed property being an ultra rare All Might card.
MHA Smash is basically My Hero Academia's equivalent to RWBY Chibi as a noncanon gag spin-off series, so some character exaggeration is to be expected. In RWBY Chibi's case, Ruby Rose is much more of a childish brat. In MHA Smash's case, Midoriya takes his merch VERY seriously.
I mean fair. Though Stella was just kinda pointing out that Katsuki destroying the card is also ooc. Oh sure he'd steal it but destroying it? Nope.
But yeah I can see that I suppose
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In the public knowledge AU, it would be hilarious if Andre (Ice Cream) somehow doesn’t know.
Everyone would clown on him for getting akumatized because Marinette and Adrien were on a date
absolute clown hours.
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