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#and buck would be all understanding bc he knows how much eddie loved her
wikiangela · 5 months
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wip wednesday
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how did the "fluffy decorating christmas tree fic" turn into eddie being nostalgic about shannon? no idea lmao but I love it haha (also, lowkey a tease for alive shannon bc this hypothetical is what ends up happening there haha) this fic would've been done already if I didn't get sick bc now i'm barely awake at all times and just so fucking tired lol i should finish it next week at the latest tho! (if Eddie doesn't take over and make it super long again haha)
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And Buck knows all that, because he knows Eddie so well, and Eddie- Eddie just loves him so much sometimes it gets overwhelming, just the sheer amount of love he has for this man, who’s currently looking at him with those gorgeous, understanding eyes. And he can’t do anything else but lean in and kiss his pretty pink lips.
“I know.” he whispers, smiling, blinking away tears. “I love you.”
“I love you, too.” Buck chuckles quietly. Then Eddie looks at Christopher again.
“It’s just hard sometimes, especially during the holidays. She should be here. With Chris.”
“She really should.” Buck wraps one hand around Eddie’s shoulders.
“I think she’d like you.” Eddie muses, leaning his head against Buck’s. “You guys would get along.” He really thinks so, and he also thinks that even if the accident didn’t happen and she didn’t die, he’d eventually give her the divorce she asked for, and inevitably date Buck anyway – he doesn’t think there’s any universe, any scenario, any path he’d take, where he and Buck don’t end up falling in love. If he believed in it, he’d say it’s fate or destiny or some shit like that. (Maybe he does believe, just in this one instance, but no one has to know).
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ice-sculptures · 10 months
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Okay well I’ve already forced u to look at most of my pets so I’m kinda just gonna copy u…what r ur favorite buck and/or eddie quotes?? I can NEVER think of any when I’m making graphics and u remember the show so much better than I do LOLL
OHHHHH MY GOD THERE'S SO MANY
some off the top of my head:
"two cut lines" - like. okay. i still maintain that the rest of the firefam doesn't actually know how close buck & eddie are and definitely do not fully realize the extent of buck's role in the diazes' life, but one thing that the rest of them Do know is that buck would rather die than leave eddie behind and i love tht these three simple words encapsulate the strength of that undying devotion
"and that started with you. whatever happens to him next, you gave him that second chance. maybe that's the point." i will never ever ever ever ever ever be over this scene and how buck found the exact words to bring eddie back from the brink and show him that what he does matters, that there's still hope, that there are things worth living for and that he made a difference in someone's life. and i think that this right here is more than romance more than love this is just. soulmatism right here. i mean....to be seen to be found isn't that what we're all searching for?
AND ON THAT NOTE. BUCK. THERE'S NOBODY IN THIS WORLD THAT I TRUST WITH MY SON MORE THAN YOU. makes me fucking INSANE because what do you mean eddie forgave him instantly?? in any other show with any other pairing this would be a season long arc with the two of them tentatively reconciling at the very end of it all. anybody else would be (understandably, i might add) nervous to leave christopher with buck after what happened, but eddie forgave buck immediately. eddie, who adores chris with all of his heart and soul, who loves that boy more than anything else in this world, saw not that buck wasn't able to hold onto chris, but that he loved him enough to try. he didn't hold it against him for chris getting swept away, he only focused on the buck that spent all day bloody and bruised, searching for his heart. but more than anything, i think he saw all of that love and heartbreak and guilt and the self doubt that matches his own reflected in buck and decided to give his best, truest friend the chance that was never given to him 🥺😭
"comes in handy when you have a bunch of holes in the wall" i can't explain why i love this bit of casual reassurance so much but i just. i think it's so simple and so sweet and a testament to how they make each other feel so loved so easily :(
i don't remember the exact quote right now but do you remember that scene where eddie and hen are gossiping about hen's mom and eddie says that his abuela would love the tea bc she loves telenovelas and buck beams at him w the fondest grin ever and teases eddie about loving telenovelas too? i know they're soulmates and in love and all of that shit but they're also Best Friends and i love all these little reminders of how well they know each other and how much they genuinely like each other. also this being in the same episode as buck's look of complete confusion when his long term gf tells him she loves him was a Choice™️
"just gonna be you and me" from the LS crossover episode for no reason other than it was cute & i love buck's subsequent jealousy
"guess all that company must've wore you out" bc of the obvious Implications that maddie tried to rope eddie into her plan of sending buck visitors to cheer him up and eddie straight up said no because he knew that wasn't going to help. yet another one of the million examples of these two knowing exactly what the other person needs & also Being exactly what the other person needs
"three minutes and seventeen seconds" because what do you MEAN he knows the exact amount of time buck was dead for. what do you mean he counted the seconds that he lived in this world without his best friend, praying and begging that he could outrun the clock and he wouldn't reach the time that would make it permanent. what do you mean he memorized the amount of time and then he threw out that line so casually because he couldn't stand the way they were talking about buck's death as something fascinating instead of as the worst three minutes and seventeen seconds of eddie's life...
the one-two punch that is "you don't need to pretend with me" and "you don't have to be anything for anybody" because both of them have spent so much of their lives not feeling good enough and not truly living for themselves...and yet around each other they've never had to do that and are free to be nothing but themselves and still be loved not despite it, but for it.
and finally last but not least....the very thesis of their relationship: "you can have my back any day" / "yeah. or, you know, you could… you could have mine" because it's stayed true ever since the first day they met and will remain true for the rest of their lives. also i'll never stop thinking about how 911 straight up said "isn't that what we all want in a partner? knowing that they have your back?" in the season five finale and have shown time and again that buck and eddie have tried to accomplish this in their previous relationships but have only ever been able to have a full and true partnership with each other...yeah that shit will Haunt me forever
this is probably incomprehensible but my mind is running at a million miles an hour right now so i am not going to go back and edit it
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littlespoonevan · 8 months
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Hi, can I please ask for some of the essays about the cemetery talk and what we were supposed to take away from that scene? If you feel inclined, that is 💕
well i don't know if i can write an essay exactly bc tbh i still don't know for certain what we're supposed to take away from that scene. but i do know the tone of it was completely different to anything we've ever seen for buddie before and it also lasted so much longer than most of their scenes have before??? like i just went back to rewatch it to refresh my memory and it's 3 minutes???? that is an incredibly long scene for two characters to have in an ensemble show when they're literally just talking and it's not strictly moving the plot forward
but to try and break it down a bit:
i find it fascinating the way eddie reacts to buck talking about natalia. that weary, almost irritated, "really?" when buck admits he'd met up with her followed by the "dating somebody you rescued, you know what never ends well." it's So Different to the snarky way he used to react to taylor. like when he'd make comments about taylor you knew he was mostly joking or at worst, just being a little bitchy. but he sounds genuinely frustrated when buck brings up natalia. the closest thing i can compare it to is that it's a more muted version of "his fiance's abby" and we know eddie knew how deeply buck was affected by losing abby so it feels a bit like eddie is potentially annoyed bc he knows buck will probably get hurt again???
then you have buck saying the whole "i think she sees me" bit which echoes so much of buck's overarching storyline and his struggle with love in the past. and i know some people call this eddie's 'oh' moment but i definitely don't consider it an "oh i'm in love with him" moment. i feel like it's more of an "oh he doesn't see that i see him too" moment, if that makes sense?? and i think there probably is a bit of frustration with that for eddie given that the will scene is eddie as loudly and demonstratively as he can saying "i see you" y'know? nevermind all the little ways he proves he knows buck
and tbh i think my favourite part of the scene is actually the last 60 seconds because first you have eddie saying "you haven't been the same since it happened, but then again how could you be?" and it's just!!! 1) it's literally him proving he does see buck and probably knows him better than anyone else and 2) there's a very subtle hint of realisation in his voice when eddie says "how could you be" as if he's been convincing himself buck is fine this entire time (maybe post-couch nap) only for him to now realise buck really, really isn't.
tHEN he says "you don't have to be anything for anybody" and it might be my favourite words to ever come out of his mouth tbh because it's just once again emphasising the gentle way eddie lets buck be?????????? "i had to do it" "i know you did", "you knew i wouldn't" "i knew you wouldn't". eddie is So Good at offering buck a reprieve whenever he needs one and he's usually the person best able to break through all the noise in buck's head to make him understand that he's fine just existing as himself.
aND THEN eddie makes the comment about how going through near death experiences change a person and all i can think about is how after eddie's near death experience he made the decision to tell buck about his will after keeping it a secret for a year and how he never actually answered buck's question about why he kept it a secret in the first place and i have to ask, eddie diaz what changed in you???????????
combine all of that with the fact their outfits mirror what they wore in 5x14 and the absolute irony of eddie saying dating someone on a call never works out only for him to pursue marisol two eps later and just- i don't know if they pivoted bc there was a fear season 6 would be the end of the series or if the last few eps were always supposed to go the way they did but this scene in 6x15 raises so many questions and i feel like i don't have the answers to any of them skjahd
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bibuddie · 1 year
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what if.. chris dying is the thing to bring buddie together.. the grief??
oh. oh anon.
i'm going to give you the absolute benefit of the doubt and say this message wasn't sent out of malice, it was just out of ignorance and that's fine. you're human. but i have more than a few things to say about this so it's going below a read more for anyone who's interested.
tw for talks of death/dying and the grieving process in quite a lot of detail, as well as mentions of cancer/treatments. you've been warned folks!
okay, so. my dad died when i was 11, and my mum died when i was 20, and just this last month my maternal grandmother died. i'm not saying that for any kind of sympathy or anything, it's just so you know i have some sort of idea as to what i'm talking about. i've seen up close and personal how losing a loved one wrecks someone. take my mum as an example: after my dad died, things got dark. i'm not going to go into detail bc tbh it's not any of the internet's business but my mum really spiralled after losing my dad. she was utterly lost and for a long while, i wasn't sure my mum would ever go back to the way she was.
taking it from a different perspective, when my mum died, i saw what it did to my grandparents. for a bit of background, my mum was diagnosed with stage 2 breast cancer in 2018 pretty much out of nowhere. she went through 7 cycles of chemo, 2 surgeries and 4 weeks of radiation and she was declared cancer free, and then she was killed by a pulmonary embolism. we were all kind of lulled into a false sense of security and then the rug was completely and utterly pulled from underneath us, and it hurt like hell. but i watched what it did to my grandparents in particular. my grandad was pretty much the same as always, maybe a little quieter (a product of the stoicism of his generation maybe).
my grandmother, on the other hand, wanted to go into excruciating detail all the time. in the months immediately after my mum died, she wanted me to recount the night she died in as much detail as i could. for context, my grandparents weren't at the hospital when my mum died, but i was. i was my mum's next of kin, and so a lot of the burden fell on me in terms of making decisions about continuing/withdrawing care. so my grandmother needed to know everything, and i was kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place because it hit a point where i wanted so desperately to help, but i had no idea what to do because the one thing my grandmother wanted me to do was ultimately hurting me.
now, how does this all link back to your original message? a child dying is not a reason to begin a new relationship, basically. a relationship started in the wake of grief, especially grief that profound is never going to be healthy, and it's never going to last. look at what happened to eddie after losing shannon - he spiralled, and he spiralled hard, and that's completely understandable. much of eddie's arc in s3/4a was coming to terms with life after losing shannon, and trying not to get stuck in his grief. even when he's dating ana, we see that he's not really ready for that - a relationship centered around his grief is never going to work in the long run, and that plays a role in his whole breakup with ana in the first place.
if christopher died? eddie wouldn't recover from that. sure, maybe he'd survive the acute grief. he'd go back to work and maybe he'd even have some fleeting moments of happiness here and there. but he'd never be the same eddie that we know currently. it took him so long to move out of the grief surrounding shannon and the circumstances around her death. but, as we've seen on the show for seasons now, christopher is his life. everything eddie does, everything eddie is is for chris. if christopher died, eddie would become a shell of his former self. he wouldn't be able to move past that, and he wouldn't be in any place to be in any sort of meaningful, romantic relationship.
buck would obviously also be grieving, but his grief would look different to eddie's. neither of them would be in any sort of place to get together romantically in the wake of christopher's death, and i think implying that they could do that isn't fair to them or to their characters. they'd be too aware of a major missing element in their relationship, and i don't think it's fair to insinuate that they could feasibly get together in the wake of christopher's death. i just can't ever see that conceivably happening, i'm sorry.
(also insinuating a child dying would...encourage his parent to begin dating someone...almost in a hopeful tone...it isn't the one for me)
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set-phasers-to-whump · 10 months
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Day 7: Post a link to your favorite whump fic of all time (or reblog it and/or make a list of them!)
ok i decided to limit myself to just 10 of my all time favorite whump fics. these are ones that i return to all the time, that i reread whenever i'm having a bad day, you know the vibe. all of them are very dear to me and i hope someone else will enjoy them too!!! i'll put them under a readmore since this got a bit long :)
Caged by Cargo - 911. Cargo is one of my absolute favorite writers and i've been in love with this fic for a longass time. the emotions and caretaking are absolutely top tier, and there's a lovely blend of emotional and physical whump. summary: "As Eddie stands in his kitchen after returning home from tonight's fight, he finally cracks. He starts falling apart and he knows there's only one person in the entire world he trusts to pick up the pieces. It's why he's dialling Buck's number before he even knows he has his phone in his hands."
Bloodshot Soul by OrionLady - bourne series. this one straight up has made me cry i can't even lie. it's a beautiful and very genuine exploration of the characters and the emotional whump is wonderfully painful. summary: "He cannot fathom why a crusty old skipper would care so much about a strange John Doe he fished out of the water, why he would smile and touch his shoulder and feed him pie. Then again, there are many things he doesn’t understand yet. The closer he and Giancarlo get, the less he wants to remember. An exploration into Jason and Giancarlo’s friendship during his two weeks aboard the fishing trawler."
In The Shadows of The Night by MissCrazyWriter321 - grimm. this fic is thee one that i turn to whenever i'm feeling sad. i love nick and rosalee's dynamic and this fic lets nick break down while keeping both of them perfectly in character. i'm absolutely obsessed with it. summary: "A board creeks beneath her foot, and he startles, but calms quickly when he sees her. “Sorry,” she murmurs. “I hope I didn’t wake you.” Obviously she didn’t, but she needs to be careful how she handles this. If she pushes too hard, he’ll just end up shutting down."
Eggs Two Ways by leslielol - law and order svu. something about the writing style in this one absolutely captivates me. like, there was a period of time where i straight up read this fic once a week and i'm not kidding. they're both super in character and it's a delightful read! summary: "It’s not often Barba has a reason to exercise a set of skills separate from those as a prosecutor. While sat in a holding cell nursing a broken nose, Carisi learns he’s as sharp as ever. (A missing-scene fic from 16x15 “Undercover Mother.”)"
Breaking all the things I'd wish to keep and Can't erase, can't rewind by Elisexyz - the man from uncle. ok yeah this is technically two. sue me. ely is like, my favorite fic author ever and i love all of her tmfu stuff, but these two hold a special place in my heart and make me go absolutely crazy every time (they go together btw). if you're into tmfu and for some reason haven't read her fics then uhh. get on that right now bc she's amazing. summary: "Napoleon maintains that attempted murder cannot be classified as an "accident"."// "“I didn’t think it was him.”"
the moon points to the sun by haloud - roswell new mexico. this fic has been making me insane for literal years. it's emotional whump and has a somewhat different vibe to the other fics on this list, but i absolutely adore it. this writer understands the characters so well and their style is absolutely incredible. top tier fic right here. summary: "They don't do apologies, Max and Michael. If they started, they'd never stop."
No Rules, No Winners by April_Valentine - person of interest. this is one of those times where you watch something and you're like 'man i wish they'd addressed this pain in the show' and then you find the absolute perfect fic that does address it. it's so tender and lovely and exactly what the episode was missing. summary: "Set just before the tag of "Baby Blue." After leaving Moretti's safe house, Reese goes back to the library."
The Car Accident by Tipper - sneaky pete. another one i've been obsessed with for literal years. it's on the longer side but it's so good, wonderful family dynamics and a really excellent storyline. summary: "After Julia found out who he was, all Marius wanted was one more Sunday night dinner with the family. It was a mistake. The trusting way they looked at him, the uncertain way she looked at him.... He left early, afraid to sink any deeper. The black truck came out of nowhere as he drove away..."
Too Hot (Hot Damn) by WasteTimeandType - the man from uncle. i loveee some heat exhaustion fics and this one is so good! i reread it recently when i was sick and miserable and seeing illya much more sick and miserable than i was really made me feel better lol. summary: "'Out of all the UNCLE missions, this was by far the worst. He’d been shot, stabbed, tortured with water and forced to run miles in a forest in the middle of Canada. All of that was preferable to this. The damn heat.' Illya suffers from heat exhaustion and Gaby and Napoleon take care of him. Kink Meme fill."
A Little Tender Care by ArgylePirateWD - person of interest. this one's a sickfic, i read it before i actually started watching the show and absolutely adored it, and i still adore it now. true to the title, it's super tender and soft and it's a really sweet read. summary: "The Man in the Suit doesn't usually take sick days. Usually."
and that's 10!! this is far from a complete list of all the fics i adore, but these are the first 10 (or 11) that i knew i needed to rec. if anyone wants more recs, lmk, i've got tons :)
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princessfbi · 9 months
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Sleepover ask - Ok so when everyone was doing that thing that ranked their favorite 911 characters I remember being struck by how low Hen was on your list! Low like under a buckley parent low I think. And no judgement ofc bc to each their own, but I just gotta know how she ended up there in your book
Ohh! Ok so I think it's because of a few reasons. For context, Hen tied with Margaret Buckley and above that Phillip Buckley tied with Abby Clark in my list.
One: I think one portion of this is because it took me a second to figure out how the poll worked. Nine out of ten times if you tag me in a game and I don't do it, it's because I don't understand how to do it. It took a VERY long time doing that polling to realize I was not in fact being timed and I wasn't taking a test 🤣 So I'd be interested to see what I would get if I took my time.
Two: I like how much I dislike the Buckley Parents. For the longest time I couldn't even look at the actors because I would have a full on visceral emotional reaction to seeing them (sorry to the Hallmark movie that had Buck's dad in it that I had to turn off). They are literally the worst and super complicated and nuanced in the way that they aren't just cardboard flat characters meant to be villains. So me disliking the Buckley Parents as much as I do, doesn't mean that I'm indifferent to them which is how I feel towards a lot of the characters much further down the list. So I think it's less a comment on how low on the list Hen is when in reality it's more how high the Buckley Parents are.
Three: This is in no way a slight against Aisha because I think she plays Hen beautifully but I find that I tend to like Fanon Hen more than Canon Hen. Aisha is an absolute POWER HOUSE and there are scenes I absolutely LOVE.
But I tend to look at the show in two lens: as a viewer and then a writer.
As a viewer: I'm a little turned off by her in a very biased way because I've worked with people with a similar temperament to Hen and I gotta be honest, they were not super great to work with. Particularly in the 'i'm in a bad mood over something that has nothing to do with you but don't talk to me or i'm going to bite your head off' vibe which is something she's done a couple of times with Chimney, Buck, and Eddie. And that's a totally valid character choice to make, it's just not something I enjoy watching personally.
But as a writer? I find that I get frustrated a lot with some of Hen's storylines particularly in her instances of impulsivity. All of the characters have been in a situation where they've been impulsive but we've seen the consequences and follow up those actions.
Buck filing the lawsuit -- Buck having to work for forgiveness from the team and Bobby.
Eddie street fighting -- Eddie having to answer for his actions with Bobby and go to counseling.
Bobby skating around the protocol to get Hen out of the vault -- Bobby's past being revealed and being suspended.
Chimney lying in his relationship with Tatiana -- Their relationship failing.
Athena going rogue to get Emmett's killer -- Athena getting suspended.
Maddie getting obsessed with a victim -- Maddie getting put on leave and forced to see a counselor.
We just get to see the follow through of this moments of impulsivity or recklessness but we don't really get that with Hen. It feels like it's more like an excuse to make Hen seem badass but the catch for that is that her victories feel a little hollow then. The sticking her hand in an open chest wound situation is one example where it was such a HUGE break in protocol (Chimney AND the nurse both had big reactions to it) but then Hen sort of got off easy. I remember watching that and thinking about the line Buck says about Eddie free climbing the roof where he's like "I feel like if I had done that you would've yelled at me." Anyone else in that situation and I think we would've gotten the consequences of that action. But with Hen it just sorta always seems like it ends on a "super lucky nothing bad happened here MOVING ON" scenario. And this isn't just with Hen (ie part of the reason why I wish we had gotten a little more tension with Chimney's return so that the attack on Jonah felt a little more satisfying) but it happens with her the most frequently.
Argument can be made for Bobby too but it happens less so.
The only time we got to see something similar was when Hen was distracted by her problems with Karen's fertility and the girl died. But even that wasn't really a consequence to Hen's actions and more bad timing. And that storyline hurt BUT it's one of the strongest Hen arcs we've seen. It's something that she still struggles with and continues to battle and I'm getting chills just writing about Aisha's performance when she breaks down in Athena's arms.
So my frustration comes from the fact that we know it can be done, and done really well, it's just not done very often which feels like cheating her character out of a complete arc.
All this is to say I still love Hen a lot and there are a BUNCH of scenes of hers that I think really just dig right into the core of the show. I just have my frustrations.
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hi! i'm the anon that sent the message you replied to a couple days ago :) <3 wanted to say thanks for taking the time to answer!
yeah, i think the absence of any clear indicators about buck and eddie not being straight kinda speaks for itself after so many seasons and various canon love interests. other shows get cancelled earlier than season 6, so i cannot imagine why the creators would purposefully wait that long to make this a topic if it was actually important for the characters.
i'm grieving the loss of bucktaylor :( taylor was fantastic! really liked how she was ambitious and confident but also supportive, sweet, and vulnerable. i even enjoyed their conflicts because they both hold strong values (e.g. taylor appreciating honesty above anything else) based on their own personal backstory. that both buck and taylor ultimately wanted to help and protect people but disagreed on how that protection should look like (e.g., taylor said that knowing the truth allows people to stay safe) was so intriguing! i did not understand why they went with the breakup the way they did. this would have been a great hurdle for them to work through imo, especially because buck is so much about forgiveness in other instances! most recently, the episode where hen and buck talk about madney in s6, and how buck stood up for maddie deserving love even though she hurt chim by leaving, and how hen's cheating was a topic as well. buck can have different boundaries of course, but he also cheated and was dishonest, betraying taylor's trust, and then hoped to be forgiven. idk, the entire end of bucktaylor felt so sudden to me sksksks
i agree with you, they do a fantastic job with bathena and madney! hence why i'm confused what they actually want to do with buck and eddie romance-wise. it all feels quite willy-nilly at this point.
crossing my fingers that they keep natalia for the next seasons so she can be fleshed out and developed, especially with that kind of interesting job she has! i want to see her be her own person with her own wishes and ambitions and backstory – not just "buck's girlfriend". i am tentatively hopeful and excited for natalia and bucktalia in s7!
oof, yeah, ig we'll have to wait and see when we get the next season! more time for the fandom to cool down lolol. have a nice day! <3
thank you for the messages!
yes, it's been more than obvious that this isn't the story the writers are telling. there have been no stories told over the last several seasons that has lasted for SEVERAL seasons. there is no long game being played here.
the breakup was sloppy and written lazily. i especially didn't like the moment of having taylor "confront" lucy. it made taylor seem insecure and placed all of the blame at lucy's feet.
i really hope natalia becomes her own character independent of buck! or just keep him single bc the revolving door of love interests and having him face his mortality can only be told so many times.
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ktinastrikesback · 2 years
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i came across the clip of taylor saying that buck is intimidated by strong women and like. there’s just so much about it that rubs me the wrong way.
like the implication is that taylor is strong (or at least, we’re supposed to see here that way), right? but here she in petty and immature and just down right mean. none of those things make someone a strong woman. and she’s supposed to be his friend, she’s supposed to know him to some extent (hell, she told buck that his life is nothing but meaningful relationships), so are we supposed to imply that she sees athena as weak? hen? maddie?
like obviously she didn’t think that deeply about it (or maybe she did, who knows), but i still cannot get over how rude it was. i get she was hurt by buck, but this woman is supposed to be in her late twenties/early thirties, and she still said that. isn’t she embarrassed for herself for how she acted? (i’m certainly embarrassed for her. i want to turn off the clip every time it comes up)
and then she went and called buck needy after he said he needed a friend. just to rub salt in the wound.
Anon, I love you for this because I’ve been thinking about it recently bc it came up elsewhere and…I will never ever understand this line. Buck was raised by a strong woman and works alongside them daily, so the statement makes zero sense. But…I don’t think it was ever meant to make sense, it was just used to be hurtful when Taylor herself was feeling hurt (which…lashing out is not the way to sort out our feelings but I can’t tell her what to do🤷🏻‍♀️).
Now, I won’t say Taylor isn’t a strong woman. Because she is. I don’t like the execution of her backstory, but it certainly demonstrates that she is a strong person; I can’t imagine what it would be like to grow up with that kind of trauma and conflict. Her independent demeanor is certainly attributed to that. But…Buck inviting her to a double date doesn’t negate her power or strength as a woman. Should he have mentioned it was a double date? Yeah probably. But this reaction is so unwarranted in my opinion. She talks down the way he saved her life, she throws shade at the other woman in the room (which feels extremely hypocritical), and then she brings out this horrid line.
It saddens me a lot because this line mixed together with the “you’re so needy” and “you can’t deal with people not liking you” are things that Buck still internalizes…and he takes these comments so personally that he thinks he’s a bad friend throughout the rest of the episode…when we have proof of what a good friend he is right there with Eddie and Chris! He watches Chris for Eddie while he’s on his date, and Chris comes to him for advice. Chris isn’t lying when he says Buck is a good friend, and Buck doubting that because of what Taylor said to him? Oh it hurts. And it especially hurts that her hurtful comments are let go (because a. he places all the blame on himself and b. neither one of them bring them up again) and that he pines after and eventually dates her.
Taylor has never once apologized for her actions. Dosed? Didn’t apologize. Ditches Buck in a parking lot? Doesn’t apologize. Says horrible things (when it sounds like he just shared his feelings about therapy and everything with her at that call???) to his face? Doesn’t apologize. Friendzones him then kisses him and runs away and then comes back later? Makes an excuse but still doesn’t apologize. Using his phone to do work stuff? Doesn’t apologize. Tries to leave without telling him where she’s going or why (when she’s seen the ramifications Maddie and Chim leaving have had on him)? Doesn’t apologize. It just never ends. If anyone is a bad friend, girlfriend, what have you….it’s her.
So yes, exactly as you mentioned, it’s sad that Buck has pursued a relationship with someone who just…doesn’t see or understand him. And it’s becoming more and more evident as time goes on just how ill-suited they are for one another. Do I think Taylor really loves Buck? Yeah. But she will never be able to love him the way he needs to be loved. She can’t even really be a good friend to him (as evidenced by all this), let alone be his lifelong partner.
I find it so interesting that Buck was reading that love languages book shortly before Taylor returned, and I would love to get inside his brain and see what love languages he thinks are at work in this relationship. I do think Buck knows it isn’t working, and I think he’s eventually going to have to take his own advice about not being all the way in. I just wish he could have figured all this out right after Taylor was so awful in Breaking Point, but like Albert said, every dating experience is a lesson. So I guess we have to wait and see what Buck learns from this.
Thank you for this brilliant ask, I enjoyed answering it!! Feel free to send a follow up or any other thoughts 🥰
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himbodiaz · 3 years
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ok no but I'm shaking bc eddie has never seen buck freak out abt his before (assuming he hasn't seen the footage of the well) and so like,,,,it's gonna affect him so deeply. obviously he knows buck cares about him, they're best friends and partners how could he not know, but I don't think he's aware of,,,how deep it runs or how devoted buck is. and so now I'm thinking abt eddie getting out of it safe, and buck practically sprinting up to him and hugging him so tight eddie can't breathe and saying "if you ever pull that again I'm never speaking to you, you scared the hell out of me" or smthg and then eddie thinks abt how buck was screaming his name and can't breathe for a totally different reason. bc he knows buck cares, and that it's in buck's nature to care deeply for people, but he's never seen it towards himself, just other people and I just,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,smthg abt eddie realizing buck cares just as deeply abt him as he does abt buck is,,,,it's gonna destroy me
okay. okay listen. eddie knows that buck loves him, but in the ranking of people who buck loves, eddie definitely sees maddie as the number one person buck loves above all else. maddie practically raised him, and she's loved him her whole life. and then eddie saw how absolutely wrecked buck was when maddie was kidnapped. how completely reckless and lacking in any self-preservation, and he probably thought "that is what buck looks like when he's completely destroyed"
and then the tsunami happened. and when eddie saw buck at the field hospital, he could immediately tell that something was wrong, and not just because buck was bloody, and muddy, and there, when he was supposed to be somewhere warm and dry with chris. buck's whole demeanour, how he was talking to eddie, how he couldn't get the words out to tell eddie what had happened, was absolutey devastated--not because chris is eddie's son, but because buck and chris have their own relationship independent of eddie. and so in eddie's mind, chris is higher up than him on buck's ranking of people he loves.
so then, the well collapses. and everyone knows how buck screamed in absolute anguish, how he threw himself to the ground, how he wanted to dig through forty feet of dirt and mud and earth by hand to get to eddie. but eddie doesn't know. doesn't know how quiet and stoic and not really there buck was, until he saw eddie again. all eddie knows is the smile that plastered itself across his best friend's face upon seeing him. all eddie knows is that hysterical laugh that escaped from buck when he saw him. all eddie knows is how tightly buck held onto him.
and then eddie gets shot. he's there, he sees buck, but i don't think he really saw him. because no matter how long he stared, how he reached for buck, i don't think he really processed what buck's reaction meant. or if he did, he didn't fully understand it. because when maddie was kidnapped, he didn't stop moving until he found her again. when chris was swept away in the tsunami, he searched for him until his body gave out. when eddie got trapped in the well, buck threw himself on the ground and clawed at the earth.
but eddie gets shot, and buck is frozen. buck cannot move to even get himself to safety, let alone eddie. and when he can finally process what has happened, he crawls under a ladder truck, he crawls toward gunfire, to get eddie, all the while calling to him, voice hoarse and absolutely devastated.
still, eddie doesn't know. eddie sees buck covered in blood, and asks if he's hurt, and then he falls unconscious. and eddie doesn't know. eddie doesn't know how his death would be the one thing that would change buck beyond recognition.
but eddie being taken hostage, being held at gunpoint, where he is still conscious, and aware. when he can hear the anguish in buck's voice, when he can see buck trying to get to him, no matter the risk to himself. that is when he'll see (or start to see) just how deeply buck loves him, how much buck would do for him, the absolute devotion buck has for eddie.
so, when eddie finally gets free, when they can finally reach each other again, eddie is pulling buck in just as tightly. because now? now, he knows
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sweettsubaki · 2 years
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Ranking Buck's relationship from the most "Functional" to the least
because there's of course the fact that we all know calling a relationship with someone "Functional" is "not the way you talk about someone you're in love with" but it's also not true at all.
Reminder that a dysfunctional Relationship is a relationship that does not perform their appropriate function. It's not about long term or seriousness so here goes my rating, from most functional to least:
1. Ali Martin
She wasn't there much so there wasn't really anytime for it to become dysfunctional. Tho there are other reasons like:
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See, Ali and Buck liked each other but they never tried to be more than what they felt. When things got too tough for Ali, she told him without expecting him to sacrifice who he was because she knew how important it was to him. It was a relatively serious relationship but not a long term one. They both knew it, they both agreed to it and that was that, making it the most functional out of all Buck's relationship for that simple fact.
1/10 on the dysfunction scale.
2. Abby Clark
We all know she did something creepy when she got his number. Still, he had the leeway to block her and at first it was mostly friendly. She still generally considered him a boytoy when things got more romantic whereas he was completely in it for the long haul. So we're off to a very rocky and unequal relationship.
However they still were fairly good at communicating their needs and their wants to each other as far as the day to day is concerned...before Abby left. They trusted each other and were fairly open. There was a partnership that we didn't really see with his other girlfriends. Taylor had a few in Treasure Hunt (412) but they were then mixed quickly with Eddie who took over by the end of the episode.
Abby's priority was Patricia so her being put first was not a show of dysfunctionality since Abby had been clear this would be part of the deal and Buck accepted it going in. Especially since Abby still managed to put Buck front and center several time without it being overtaken by Patricia so they managed to find a relative balance.
So, it was unequal yes but both of them found something they needed in it which is why Abby hadn't managed to truly broke things off and it took Buck months before he was able to let her go.
7/10 on the dysfunction scale
3. Taylor Kelly
Yeah she manages to beat Abby in my book. So let's start. We're gonna ignore season 2 because apparently Buck forgave her and she might have apologized off screen to Bobby (I doubt it but we don't know and the point is Buck seems to have forgiven her for some reason and Bobby seems to...somewhat tolerate her so...even if she apologized to appease Buck the point is, she's tolerated now).
So we start with her being a complete asshole and never apologized (yeah Buck wasn't great in that part of the story either but it's absolutely not comparable). Turned him down then changed her mind by kissing him when he was extremely vulnerable bc his best friend was shot in front of him and was surprised (if not annoyed) that he didn't chase her so she already beats Abby in the consent department. Then keeps the theme of considering him self centered by not understanding why he gets into danger from the double date with Veronica and Albert to 414 before the kiss all the way to 505 (so 5 months later) when he's trying to be vulnerable with her (don't get me wrong her comment isn't completely wrong in itself even if she doesn't understand where it comes from but the lack of empathy before, during and after is not good).
After that there's the matter of Buck's lack of trust toward her whether it's with job stories or their relationship (he thinks she's gonna leave him every time she does something different than usual, won't tell her about the kiss, reaches relationship milestones not bc he wants to but because of how she might react to a situation, ect...), there's the fact that her love is conditional (said she loves him because he helped her) and she doesn't want to be especially vulnerable with him (the only time she does is for the ILU scene and she dials it back down immediately...granted considering his later reaction and the fact he's probably her first ILU...is sort of understandable), then there's the fact we learn that he's completely right in not trusting her when it comes to his job's stories considering her conclusion to her backstory which is telling other people's stories to deflect from her own (also concludes by confirming she's still not telling him everything, which you know it's normal not to tell everything but you don't brag about it to someone who's trying to be vulnerable with you).
The fact that he was tempted by Lucy which, kiss or not is proof enough in itself to show that he's not well in his relationship (he was never tempted during his relationships with both Abby and Ali, even when they weren't there for a long period of time).
This relationship is based on fumes and smoke. They both want something serious but not especially with each other, so much as the other is the one here at that point in time so they are unwilling and unable to do what is actually needed for it to work. When they try to do them, the motivation is that they're needed for a relationship to work, not because loving the other makes them want to help/be there. And that's because while they're in it at the same time, they're not in it together, they're just there along for the ride.
9/10 on the dysfunction scale
CONCLUSION
Not only is Buck wrong in considering his relationship with Taylor to be his most functional one, but I personally consider it to be his least functional one.
Denial is strong with Buck and while he doesn't repress in the same way Eddie does (nor does he repress the same things), his level of repression is still high and his denial ability puts the whole thing on a brand new level which explains how he managed to stay 10 months with a person he trusts as little as he does Taylor (and I barely even touched how their different types of empathy affects their relationship and informs Buck's lack of trust in her.
Also a dysfunctional scale can change if you learn stuff like communication or empathy but it won't if the basis of your relationship is so off you'd need a soft character reboot for it to change (which can happen through trauma or breaks ect...but not a great look at the first version of the relationship)
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Totally random thought I had right as I am going to bed but ya know that show "I didn't know I was pregnant"? Buck would be on that show lol the boy is oblivious when it comes to his own body, so like I can perfectly picture him collapsing on the job one day wracked with pain, and then Hen is poking around his stomach where it hurts, her, Buck and Eddie packed into the back of the ambulance as Chim and Bobby drive to the hospital, and she gets out the stethoscope to try and listen for internal bleeding or anything but instead finds an infant heartrate and she's like "Buck, you're pregnant?" And he's like "uh, no? What the hell?" And then his water breaks and he tries to convince hen and Eddie that he had an accident bc even that would be a better alternative to suddenly figuring out he's about to have a baby???? What the fuck???? But Eddie holds his hand all the way through it and by the time they get to the hospital, Buck has a healthy newborn cradled against his chest, Eddie knelt beside him and alternating between kissing buck and the baby on the head, and observing the baby in disbelief. I can also picture Buck like, sobbing his sorry's to Eddie the entire time he's pushing, like "Eddie I swear I had no idea, if I had known, I would have told you!" And Eddie is just reassuring him the entire time like "don't worry about that now, Buck, just concentrate. No one is mad, okay? But you gotta focus on the- on the baby" and buck just sobs and nods and focuses on the delivery again. But for a good while Buck is in denial that any of this is happening and it takes a lot of convincing and encouragement from both hen and Eddie for him to start actively participating in his baby's birth. Anyways, random half asleep thought is finished sorry for the long ask hdshsjjsjdbsjsj
WELL SHIT ok so i actually love that show and i could see buck doing this lmao so i wrote a thing. also ignore all medical inaccuracies, this is my distraction from monday lmao let me have this wildly inept fic pls. 
also just in case, it’s pretty brief, i think, but TW for talk of weight and weight gain
It's nearing the end of their shift now and Buck can almost hear his feet howling at him in pain. Today hadn't even really been all that busy, he thinks, annoyed at his own body's betrayal. He's not even thirty yet, but in the last couple of months he's felt as though he's aged about ten years.
He's put on a few pounds, which isn't too uncommon, sometimes Buck goes through stretches of time where he eats more carbs than he needs and works out less than he'd like and so a little tummy fat is to be expected.
It normally doesn't bother him, except that in the last maybe three months he hasn't felt like exercising much outside of work but he's eaten nearly everything in sight every night. He's up about fifteen pounds, which he wouldn't have even noticed, seeing that he does fluctuate at times anywhere between five to eight pounds over or under what he usually weighs, if it hadn't been for Chimney teasing him about putting down his third Krispy Kreme donut of the day and picking up a barbell earlier this morning.
Chim and Buck poke fun at each other all the time--it's a staple in their friendship and brother ship, in fact--and Buck had flipped him the bird, nothing new there. What had been new was the fact that he'd excused himself to the bathroom right after that and locked himself in a stall and bawled his eyes out as quietly as humanly possible.
Buck grimaces, embarrassed still, by the outburst, even if no one had been there to witness it. He still has no idea what the hell that had been about this morning.
Eddie notices the sour mood and pulls him in close. "Hey, you ok?"
Buck nods. "Yeah, just tired. Ready to go home--shit." Buck feels a shooting pain so intense his knees buckle and Eddie has to hold him upright to keep him from hitting the floor. 
“Woah!” Eddie calls Bobby over, who’s closest, for help, “Buck? Buck, you with me? What’s wrong? What hurts?” 
Buck just shakes his head and grits his teeth, the pain so debilitating he can hardly breathe much less speak. 
The Captain is on his other side in an instant and together Eddie and Bobby help Buck towards the couch, where he collapses in a heap, throwing his head back and letting out an agonized whine. “What’s going on? Did he get hurt during one of the calls?” Bobby asks Eddie, frantic to help put a stop to this. 
Eddie’s helpless, “Bobby I don’t know, one second we were talking about going home and the next he practically fell to the floor in pain.” he turns to face his husband, “Baby, I’m here, look at me, what’s the matter? What hurts?” 
Buck’s face scrunches up and he finally exhales sharply, his grip on the couch cushions loosening, and he opens his eyes, wide like saucers, and says, “What the fuck was that?” 
At this point Hen and Chim, as well as half the crew, have gathered around and Hen is quick to put on her doctors hat and try to sus out the problem. She makes Bobby step aside and Chimney hands her a stethoscope. “Buck, is it your stomach?” she asks, noticing the stiff way he’s holding himself around his midriff. 
“I don’t--kinda? I don’t know. It was just like, this crazy wave of pain, almost like a cramp, but way worse.” he struggles to describe the feeling now that it’s more or less passed for the time being.  
Hen had seen Buck wince when he’d been in the harness on the last call of the day, but he hadn’t said anything and she hadn’t thought too much about it until now. “Did you hurt yourself in the harness earlier? Maybe pulled something when we reeled you back up?” she asks, palpitating his stomach with her fingers, watching him almost retract from her touch. 
“Maybe?” Buck shrugs uncomfortably, wincing when she hits a particularly sore spot. 
Something about this feels familiar and strangely obvious, but Hen doesn’t understand why until she puts her stethoscope up to his belly to check for lack of bowel sounds, indicating maybe some internal bleeding or sorts. 
Hen gasps out loud and sits up like she’s been smacked. 
Eddie frowns. “What? What’s wrong? Is he gonna be ok?” He almost wants to snatch the damn stethoscope out of her ears and check for himself, his eyes darting between Hen and Buck nervously. 
“Buck, you’re pregnant. And in labor, by the sounds of it.” Hen blurts out in disbelief. 
“What.” Buck blinks at her, waiting for the other shoe to drop. This has to be a joke. 
“I heard a heartbeat in there...” Hen informs them, still awed. “Buck, that was a contraction you just experienced.” 
Eddie gapes at Hen and then at Buck. “You’re pregnant?” 
Buck gapes right back at him. “No!” he denies, shaking his head incredulously. “That’s insane, I can’t be pregn--ah--” Buck leans forward in pain as another contraction begins. “Fuck.” 
“Jesus, yeah, no you’re definitely pregnant,” Chim announces, “Your water just broke all over my favorite couch, bud. I’m getting the ambulance ready asap.” he says, before running to do just that, head reeling. He thinks about Maddie and when she gave birth to their daughter and how scared out of his mind he’d been and he sympathizes for Buck and Eddie, who up until now apparently hadn’t even realizes they were expecting... 
Back at the lounge Buck continues to deny any of this is even happening. He whines into Eddie’s chest, “That’s pee, it has to be, because I’m not pregnant. There’s no way.” he lets out a pitiful whimper as another contraction begins and buries his face against his husband to hide the tears springing up in his eyes. 
“Buck, son, we gotta get you to a hospital right now.” Bobby tries, running a soothing hand over the top of his head. 
But Buck shakes his head no, shuddering out a sob. “M’not going.” 
Eddie, overwhelmed, looks to Hen and Bobby for help. 
“Buck, ambulance is ready to go, we need to move unless you wanna have this kid at the firehouse.” Hen grimaces. “I know you’re in pain and I know you’re confused and hurting, but we need to get you into that ambulance and now.” 
Buck cries out when another contraction hits him and Hen gulps. “Your contractions are getting way too close together, we need to move.” she nods at her Captain and Eddie to help get Buck up and together the three of them manage to get Buck onto a gurney and into the waiting ambulance.
Bobby rides up front with Chimney, leaving Hen and Eddie to work in the back with Buck. 
“Buck, you need to start getting ready to push, this baby’s coming.” Hen warns him, but Buck refuses. 
“I can’t.” he sobs. “I didn’t--” he throws his head back, the pain lighting his nerves on fire. “I swear Eddie, I didn’t know. You gotta believe me.”
Eddie takes Bucks hand into his and brings it up to his lips. “I know baby, I know, you don’t have to worry about that. I promise. Nobody is mad at you, ok? I’m not. But right now you need to focus on pushing, you need to listen to Hen, ok? We’re ok, and you’re gonna be ok, but I need you to push, baby. I love you so much, you know that, right?” 
Buck lets Eddie wipe away his tears, leans into the comforting touch, and nods shakily, exhaling. “O-ok, I’m--I’m ready.” 
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The baby is so very tiny in Eddie’s arms. 
Olive Buckley-Diaz is born weighing exactly six pounds and two ounces. 
Christopher, who’s curled up against Bucks side on the hospital bed after a very exhausting day, looks up at his Buck, his little brow still knitted in confusion. “So she was a surprise baby? And that’s how come you guys didn’t tell me about her?” 
Buck tries not to laugh. “Yeah bud, it was a huge surprise to us, too.” 
Eddie nods along, smiling fondly down at the bundle he’s holding. Her blotchy red face is slack in sleep and there’s already tufts of brown hair sticking up funnily on her head under her hat. “I still can’t believe you only gained like fifteen pounds during the whole pregnancy.” Eddie chuckles, “Or that you worked through the nine months, God Buck, when I think of the stunts you pulled during calls in the last few months alone I’m--” he shudders. “Actually I’d rather not think about it.” he sighs, “I’m just happy you’re both healthy at the end of the day.” 
Really, it’s a miracle. The doctor had said as much after the delivery. 
“To be fair I never got any of the other symptoms,” Buck shrugs. “I wasn’t nauseous, my feet never swelled, I don’t remember any weird cravings? And you said it yourself, I didn’t really gain all that much weight.” 
Eddie leans down to kiss Buck’s forehead. “You should be on that show.” he grins. 
Buck tilts his head. 
“You know the one, the one Hen made us watch when work was slow that one time. ‘I didn’t know I was pregnant’.” he teases. 
Buck groans. “I regret all the jokes I made at the time. I totally get those people now. Pregnancy is weird.” 
Christopher rests his head more comfortably against Bucks chest and smiles softly. “Yeah, but now our family’s even bigger.” 
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littlespoonevan · 1 year
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i really want to know your opinion on last night's episode! do you think we finally saw Eddie's oh moment? I see a lot of people talking about it and about his heartbreak but I'm not seeing it? like I see eddie upset about what buck is saying, but that could easily be platonic imo, my best friend saying someone else actually sees them? that would make me feel awful, like I'm here??? I see you??? and i get eddie feels lonely as well, but i dont ser that particularly related to him realizing he's in love w buck, idk idk what are your thoughts?
askjdhlf okay. where do i begin??? i should preface by saying i only got a chance to watch the last 25 mins of the ep like an hour and a half ago bc of how long it took for the ep to upload this morning so i'm still very much processing bUT
that cemetery scene was a lot.
to start by answering your question, i don't think we got an oh moment in the deliberate sense?? by that i mean, i don't think this was the show telling the audience "this is it!!!! this is the moment eddie realises he's in love with buck!!!!!" however i do think that scene did A Lot to suggest something big and buddie-related in the pipeline.
something about the tone of it felt very different to what we've gotten previously???? it's most certainly one of the longest conversations they've ever had at 3 minutes uninterrupted. it's also one of their most serious and touched on a wide range of topics (like it felt almost like a post-ep coda fic conversation to me????? askdjfh) and i think it's interesting that twice now in 6b we've had meaningful conversations between them that don't involve chris being brought up. because that's been something i've always said was maybe missing when it came to the possibility of them becoming canon??? we have so many conversations that emphasise buck/eddie/chris as a family but very few conversations between buck and eddie just about them and their friendship/relationship, y'know??
likewise eddie's reaction to natalia was in very stark contrast to the usual way he sort of snarkily comments on buck's relationships. @mellaithwen made the great catch that it paralleled buck talking about ana in 5x02 and it also reminded me of eddie's reaction to abby??? in the way it was this sort of weary-frustrated-resigned combination where he Knows this won't end well for buck and he's maybe a little bit annoyed at buck's lack of regard for himself (in 3x18 bc he's willing risk his own life for abby to save her fiancé even after she left buck the way she did and now with natalia in a 'how can you say she sees you better when the version of yourself you're showing her isn't you' way)
there's also just the big giant elephant in the room where buck is talking about how natalia sees him when eddie is the one who's always Seen him - all the way back to "to be seen to be found, isn't that what we're all searching for?". eddie is the one who constantly validates buck's feelings, who understands his reasons for the choices he makes, who knows exactly what to say to make buck open up. he even does it in this scene!!!!!! when he says "you don't have to be anything for anyone". it felt like a big fat example of dramatic irony tbh
and i think for me, regardless of what happens on the actual show, when it comes to how i write and approach canon in fic that scene acts as confirmation of my favourite headcanon that eddie knows about his feelings but buck has no fucking idea. and while we may or may not ever get real confirmation of that in canon, i think you can for sure read the scene that way without twisting it into something it's not :')
overall, you know i'm the most cautious person alive when it comes to canon buddie but i do genuinely, genuinely feel something has shifted in this scene even if it's not a definitive oh moment for now💛
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I just wanted to send out a love note to 9-1-1. This show is rare for so many reasons, many of which others have discussed in detail, but the one I’ve been thinking about recently, especially after Chimney’s monster performance this week, is that I am emotionally invested in every character in this show. Every. single. one.
That’s rare for me. So often I’ll watch a show and have a favorite character or storyline, or a few I like and a few I don’t. I’m not invested in all the characters to the same extent. I don’t love them all equally, and watching the show can seem like such a chore when you’re waiting around for the part or people you like to come back. 9-1-1 is different. (5.03 aside), I never feel unhappy when it changes to a different character or plot line bc I’m just as interested in what’s going on there, and I can’t help screaming about how much I love every character. They show up, and I am once again blown away. That doesn’t mean I love everything they do. For instance, I am fully invested in Athena as a character and her relationships with everyone as well as her own growth even if I’m not fond of her recent storyline.
Somehow this show has made me love everyone. It’s no secret I started watching for Buddie, but I have been completely drawn in by everyone. Each character is so well done and nuanced. I went into the show knowing a lot of spoilers and assumed I wouldn’t like Abby. Oh no, I LOVED Abby. Loved her. I’m not fond of how she eventually treated Buck, but I was actually sad to think she’d be gone after season 1. With Maddie, all I can think is that she saved herself (from Doug), and it subverted any expectations I had. I loved it. Her current storyline is breaking my heart. I don’t think I knew much about Michael before I started watching, but every time I see him, my brain immediately goes, “oh he’s a favorite.” I mean, he and Bobby are up there when it comes to my favorite duos. “There goes the Neighborhood” might be my favorite episode bc of how much fun it was to watch Michael, Bobby, and David be ridiculous together. But then Chimney’s on screen, and I can’t stop gushing about how much I love him. He has so much heart. Same with Hen. There’s something about Hen I identify with, and when she’s struggling or heartbroken, I can’t help but feel for her. I love her story and her family. I get giddy any time I see Karen. And Eddie. Eddie Eddie Eddie. His character is so complex, so unique and yet understandable and relatable. I am excited to see how his story will unfold this season. (It might possibly be the one I relate to most, but we’ll see). I could go on about every character.
This is just so rare for me. Normally I’d be waiting for the Buddie scenes (tho they do make me very happy when we get them…that balcony scene, oh my God!) or the HenRen scenes, suffering through the rest, and that’s honestly what I expected would happen when I started the show. But no, that’s not 9-1-1. It’s nothing like I expected. They created a world of complex characters (masterfully acted) that I’ve fallen completely in love with. I am invested in their stories, their struggles and triumphs. Everything. This is a truly great show.
Disclaimer: I started the show at the end of season 4 and caught up over the summer.
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Put this question in a few people's asks bc I wanted to get a range of opinions... but with an E/A breakup imminent, do you think the writers planned this for them from the beginning, or did they see the overwhelmingly negative feedback and change course? Don't get me wrong, I'm THRILLED Eddie is having doubts and I can't wait until she's off my screen, but it seemed like the show was at least trying to get us to like her for him (I have zero explanation for that dreadful fancam otherwise 😂)
I genuinely don’t know the answer but...
This is my dumb af theory.
If the writers had planned to make Buddie canon or at least have realisations at the end of Season 4, it was necessary for both Buck and Eddie to have other love interests at first to reiterate what they don’t want.
It’s especially important for Eddie, who has not been in a relationship on the show with anyone but Shannon, and we can assume that for the last ten or so years of his life he has only been with Shannon and no one else. So he needed a rebound in order to figure out what he really wants/needs.
I don’t think they would’ve expected quite such a negative reaction to Ana? But I also wonder if one of the reasons they cast her was because she and Ryan really have no chemistry at all. Even though we don’t know much about Ana - and I have written her to be a villain from time to time - she’s a generic nice, pretty, woman who on paper is perfect for Eddie. So maybe they deliberately cast someone he has no chemistry with to show that even though they look like a perfect match, for whatever reason, it just doesn’t work.
Ryan’s a good actor - if he was told to act like he’s in love with Ana, I’m sure he would be able to do that. There’s a reason they’re both so unbelievably awkward together.
In saying that - and that is giving the writers the benefit of the doubt a little, because we’ll probably never know the real truth - I definitely think her scenes have been cut down due to the negative reaction. The scene in the Parenthood episode (the revolting couch scene) was almost definitely cut.
I also have a slightly mean theory that nobody on the cast (except Cocoa) likes her, and that Ryan especially doesn’t like her at all. I have no basis for this, it’s just a fun little mean theory.
I am pretty confident she’ll be dumped in the next episode - our boy is having some dope realisations yo - but whether that was the plan all along depends on whether they were actually planning on making Buddie canon, and after that last episode I am feeling like Buddie is definitely becoming canon in Season 5 (I might look back on this post in a year and go oh ho ho how cocky I was but that’s future me’s problem)
Maybe they never originally intended for Buck and Eddie to become canon but they’ve certainly put themselves in a position to make it happen, and I’m extremely hopeful that this is the road we’re going down.
Let’s face it - if this was a male/female couple we would all be thinking it was inevitable at this point.
I also have ANOTHER amazing theory - with absolutely nothing to back it up - that the fancams were meant to confuse and distract us
And also that Ryan and Oliver were never really fighting and are still friends IRL, but that’s just me having a hopeful “loves a happy ending” kind of a brain
UNLESS Ryan has dumped Oliver because of all the freshnlean stuff in which case I would understand.
These are my theories I hope you liked them
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The thing is (and i don’t even really mind Buck and Taylor together), if this is what they are imagining as Buck’s endgame romance? Than they aren’t even TRYING to create something that gets anywhere close to Buddies potential, buildup, just general level. I guess they could develop them into *something* now that they are dating, but i’ve said it time and time again (also about EddieAna) but the real development, imho, has to happen BEFORE the character’s start a relationship.
Which makes me wonder if they maybe never really considered her as a serious long term love interest, just like Ana. If maybe, just maybe, we are supposed to find it rushed. To find it a bit weird. Because they want to make the point that these relationships ain’t it for Buck and Eddie and couldn’t think of another way to do it with their limited screentime.
And i think that would make a lot of sense especially in Taylor’s case. Because with Ana, it was easy to say that the relationship seems to lack...everything, really, because she herself, as a character, also did.Now Taylor is a bit different. She is a character on her own, with her own backstory and quite some buildup this season. She has good chemistry AND real history with Buck. So how do they signal to the viewer that this relationship still isn’t what’s right for Buck? Have it seems off from the very start.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts, and i’m a biased clown, so..
yeah, i agree. i liked where it was heading with them becoming friends first and setting into that before presumably jumping into something more, but it was just really rushed and undeveloped imo (and yes, life and death situations do inspire a shift in perspectives and all that, so i don't even think that part was unrealistic or whatever, but they still could've gone about it differently)
like for bobby and athena, they also rushed into a relationship with not a ton of build-up between the two of them (i'd actually argue that buck and taylor had more build-up), but a) we had a very solid understanding of the both of them as individuals beforehand and b) they developed once inside the relationship as well. right now we really? don't know that much about taylor outside of her general personality and her career, and i hope that changes! it's definitely not too late to continue to learn more about her and i want to see that, but i'm also a little nervous bc the cast is already stretched so thin and mains like maddie and eddie are already getting kind of sidelined so far? idk
i also did think it was kind of interesting that they keep suggesting that buck doesn't actually know or trust her all that well yet? we had him being surprised that she cared more about justice being served than getting a promotion in 4.11, and then him assuming that she was at the hospital to get a comment from him (as well as him trying to shut her out when she offered help...and ik he was obviously not all there at the hospital, but it was an interesting choice to show anyway). either way though she's undergone a ton of development but he doesn't always seem to recognize or trust that. idk if that's what they want us to get out of these interactions, but i think it'd be interesting to see if that comes up at all in the next season
and yeah, i really wish that if they're intended to be endgame, they would've drawn it out a little more. it was just so odd to go from taylor firmly saying they're friends in 4.12 (and nothing on the camera to really make it clear to the audience that she wasn't being honest with her feelings) to 4.14 and them jumping into it - they could've just opened the door last episode and leave it at that, but it is what it is. maybe it's intended to be that way because they're not endgame and like you said, they're trying to signal to the audience that they're not supposed to be, but i really have no clue what the ga thinks of it all so 🤷🏻‍♀️
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Destiel, Buddie: the great love patterns and one failure.
I'm going to highlight the patterns of baiting and good storytelling. Chim sounds like the Sam to Dean!Buck. Cas!Eddie and Claire/Jack!Chris.
WARNING: not a negative post, this is from a destielshipper!POV looking to something so beautiful like 9-1-1.
As someone pointed out: if Eddie was a girl they would've already get laid. Same thing with Dean if Cas was a girl.
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(my gifs)
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We know Dean and Buck like to get laid with many girls...and have some homo-joke-scenes with guys.
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Dean Winchester being a disaster bi (since S1)
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(+ Josh and roomate!Albert - I know someone ships it xD) What I really enjoyed with Buck/Abby is the meaning of the storyline. D (who likes older women also) and B always get the part of having fun, and when it comes to express their feelings, not all their crushes understand their soul and they don't always admit those with themselves.
Abby: I think I was afraid that If I came back, I would become that person again. Because I missed you. I wanted to see you. But I didn’t trust myself.
Buck: Because being there, being with me, you might lose yourself again?
Shannon: I can’t fail him again, or you and I won’t. I’m still learning how to be someone’s mother and after that maybe I can be someone’s wife.
Eddie [to Bobby]: [...] she wanted a divorce. And I’m still mad. How stupid is that? I’m agry at a dead person and at myself because I forgave her for everything, and that wasn’t enough. I wasn’t enough.
Buck [to Maddie]: You’re never the one getting left behind. You’re the one who leaves. You don’t know what’s like to watch someone you love walk away.
Dean [to Lisa]: When I do picture myself happy...it’s with you.
Lisa:  You've got so much buried in there, and you push it down, and you push it down. Do you honestly think that you can go through life like that and not freak out? Just, what, drink half a fifth a night and you're good? Dean: You knew what you signed up for.
Lisa: Yeah. But I didn't expect Sam to come back. And I'm glad he's okay. I am. But the minute he walked through that door, I knew. It was over. You two have the most unhealthy, tangled-up, crazy thing I've ever seen. And as long as he's in your life, you're never gonna be happy. That came out so much harsher than I meant. Dean: It's not your fault.
Who does understand them? The best friend. Cas and Eddie are the best friends to who they talk to, they can feel judged by but it doesn't really matter (or it DOES); they trust each other and feel safe.
you gave up an entire army for one guy (dean)
thank you, for not giving up
 stupid for the right reasons 
maybe you could’ve come at it a little differently
The Abby-phase was very important 'cause B wanted to stop to think about just the sex part and really connect with the person, doin' romantic stuff, even VDay; feelings were in the game. 
(He literally asked to the firetruck!girl to see her again...but she said no. Ali? She acted like a Lisa.)
B really tried to find someone and always felt left behind. D had two important relationships, one with Cassie (yeah, that's fun) and I liked her -but he couldn't have a black girlfriend, right(?). Always felt left behind, by his father, by his brother, his mother’ memories were a lie.
When we first see Cassie, they didn’t see each other in a very long time and they get a reunion during a case.
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Much like Eddie and Shannon.
(not saying also this...but....this)
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Lisa and the weird-and-bad-written-originally story with Amara...who knew Dean bc of his 'dark' side. (Amara has found Cas and Dean’s profound connection and Dean was scared by her darkness connected to his anger and loniless).
At one point Amara will find Dean thanks to Cas's heart  just my reply to go fast  (while Cas was possessed by Lucifer- an annoying bitch who is used as a destiel bait)
We know Buck for his autodiagnosed sex addiction with women and Eddie as a married man with a son and wife not in the picture...and the episode- I'm so sorry, but the beginning of S2 with Buddie can't be described as two hets - there are tropes.
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We start to fall for them and Chim with Maddie, wait- Sam!Chim and Eileen!Maddie.
Sam and Eileen’ first episode is basically a blind date on a hunt. They flirt and make a badass duo, she's deaf and super sassy and they're so sweet together. Many start to ship it asap.
I cried with Madney asap.
What does Maddie do since Buck start talking about Chris and Eddie? Yeah.
What does happen in Fanfiction with Sam (he’s a Maddie here) and when Saileen comes back on S15?
Bros shipping their bros with their best friends, mirroring them.
Madney have Buddie patterns.
Saileen is presented as a Het!Destiel parallel...and they can kiss.
Sam asks Dean if he could start thinking about settle down with someone who understand the life, another hunter. Eileen is a hunter. Cas is an angel - the one who raised him from perdition and got lost for his beautiful soul/hunter.
I LOVE that Eddie can be just a friend to Lena and Marjan, basically (I hope not to see this ruined in the future).
Now, over the line: Dean has a mother figure in Bobby!Jody and Jody is shipped with Athena!Donna (also good friend to Dean) and he's got a sister figure in Hen!Charlie.
[Jody, Charlie]
(Jody and Donna have many daugthers figures and a spin-off who hasn't been picked bc too many poc girls, queer girls and two not young women with perfect bodies.)
Bobby!Jody helped him with his mother-plot-fiasco (that was really bad) and I loved Mary before s12.
[I'm having fun thinking about this connections, leave me alone if it'ss just a great big illusion]
I forgive you / of course I forgive you
personal space / personal space
Destiel, uncle!Sam and Jack
Destiel, uncle!Sam and Claire
*love is in the air*
oh and beside the MurphyPatterns (Klaine, Bryan&David) we do have the KripkePatterns also (Timeless, The Boys 2 3 )
One of the most loud BI!Dean eps
I’m ready for some domestic Buddie and Madney
Eileen and Cas back from the dead
Just to make you all laugh after this big movie, remember the chars:
what a destiel scene always looks like
THE END: 
Yes, C*W and Fox aren’t the same, and yes producers can make the difference. all SPN writers WEREN’T the problem, directors neither, not to mention the actors. 
C*W thrived on Destiel for 12 years, building a very good story that could’ve show two men accepting the love they deserved....but they failed, erasing every other (lgbtq, poc, disable) characters.
Fox doesn’t need more viewers but they WILL gain more of them showing Buddie because representation of a M/M ship with BI/PAN (I see Pan!Eddie) it’s a huge thing for TV and it matters. I always see gay love not many other possibilities, with Murphy mostly, he can make the change again. 
A reminder to what C*W did 
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