thoughts on Crow's character being reduced into Uldren-but-not-quite? I'm not happy with these past few weeks of dialogue, I feel like suddenly everyone treats Crow as just the guy that did those horrible things, and this week he's also taking responsibility for those actions *he did not take*. sure, his corpse did it, but wasn't a whole year of storyline based around the fact that Crow and Uldren are separate persons? why is every other character acting like none of that ever happened?
I don't think he's really being blamed for those things, it's more that he now has those memories and reacts to them in a distinctly Crow way. He's the type to take the responsibility for those things, even though it wasn't really him, but he remembers it all so in his mind, it's his problem.
It's actually a fairly complicated issue that is unique to Crow: how should Guardians who fully remember their past behave? Crow decided to make amends for things that his "past self" did, even though it's not him, because he remembers it so vividly and it bothers him. This doesn't mean that other people are pushing it on him; they're clearly not. Petra has numerous lines where she tells him that nothing Uldren did is on him, and so do other people. So I'm pretty sure they're not acting like it didn't happen, given that everyone is often reassuring him that he's not being blamed for Uldren.
But for Crow, he remembers doing those things. He didn't do them, but he remembers them and it bothers him. It's probably exceptionally difficult to think of yourself as not that guy when you have that guy's life in your head. I don't think people often consider how this must feel for Crow. He wasn't just told what Uldren did. He was given the full package directly into his head. Uldren's deeds aren't stories to Crow, they're effectively his life. A life of a stranger, but his life nonetheless.
Obviously, they could've gone with not giving him his memories back. But since they did, I think that Crow's behaviour (especially given how compassionate he is) makes sense. He remembers those things as his own, even though they're not his own, but he feels like he should be making amends for them. I think that's the crucial part of his arc; he knows what Uldren did, he acknowledges that it wasn't him, he KNOWS it wasn't him, but nobody else will make those amends and nobody else is working to fix those wrongs, so he feels responsible to do it.
That doesn't mean that the story is suddenly about Crow = Uldren; it's not. It's about Crow's choice. Crow isn't Uldren, but he's choosing not to ignore their connection even if he would be completely accepted if he did ignore it. I think that's what gives Crow's story an element worth exploring.
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At first I was thinking if Donna went with the doctor after that initial meeting then they'd get a little more time but then we wouldn't get Martha :/
But THEN I realized I can decide what would happen and now I wish she did because then they'd pick up Martha after and we could've gotten double content if Martha and Donna interacting and now I'm sad that didn't happen like that it would've been so good. Martha wouldn't be so alone with her feelings and maybe even get over them sooner who knows
RIP Martha you were golden I'll live you forever, sucks about the unrequited feelings thing.
Do you think Donna could've pretended to be a new hire nurse well enough to be apart of the doctors scheme of being a weird patient in Martha's debut episode?
OUGH okay a few things
1: every damn day of my life I think about if Donna had been part of season three every time her and Martha interacted it was so so so SO lovely and wonderful and NICE finally someone is fucking VALUING HER PROPERLY!!!!!! Also I think Donna would've straight up bitten Ten at least once in defense of Martha's honor. I also think there's multiple times where The Doctor is telling Martha something and Donna is right behind him like
and it takes all of Martha's power to not start laughing OUGH sorry i just love how at ease and silly and happy Martha was with Donna around. Like god GOD they should get to be girl best friends i hope they DO get to be girl best friends now that Donna has her memories back!!!!!!!!
2. This is a Martha Jones stan account forever and always!!! Proud of her for moving on from her shitty ex and also fuck anyone that doesn't love my GIRL!!!!!!
3. I don't think she plays a new nurse because I think runaway bride Donna has fully solidified her grifter's spirit yet. I DO however think that if she's still in her wedding dress (rip) when Martha is like "what the fuck is this guy's deal??" Donna's just like uhhh that's my...fiance.....and his, um, pacemaker is fucked up and Martha's like "oh that should definitely get fixed" and Donna's like "no it's fine I'm trying to outlive him so i can have his money" and Martha's like *voice two octaves higher* okay
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Robin Robin what do you mean Sam killed Danny did she just yeeted him in the ghost machine Robin Robin please I need answers
Ask and you shall receive but be warned the answers may not be what you are looking for. (IE they are dumb).
So there's technically two canonical versions of Danny's accident, the OG and Memory Blank (s2e1).
The OG happened sometime late summer/early fall of the trio going into high school. The group has been friends for some time (its part canon/part fanon that Danny and Tucker were initially friends with Sam joining later on) and were comfortable enough Dan felt ok letting them over to see his parents' "failed" ghost portal. Sam was intrigued, Danny uninterested on the surface level but secretly curious. Sam encourages him to looks inside, he presses the conveniently placed on button inside and boom, ghost boy.
This recap is made light of in the season 2 opener Memory Blank (my beloathed) while fanon reallllllly runs with Sam's guilt and grief over sorta/almost killing her friend. But I digress, the episode kicks off with Sam and Danny arguing leading her to wishing she had never met Danny out loud. The wish granting ghost, Desiree, overhears and makes it so. Because of this, Danny never had his accident and was completely human with no knowledge of Sam.
This is where the episode upsets me. Sam is upset about losing her friendship with Danny (and Tucker to a lesser extent but they make it creepy 🙄) but its framed as Sam being desperate to get Danny his powers back. If you almost killed your friend in the past and magically got a do over, would you really put him through that again??? There is no real external pressure to make Danny become Phantom again aside from Desiree continuing to grant monkey's paw wishes. Amity Park looks much like it always has, seemingly unaffected by the lack of Phantom. Hell, the portal is still not working so there's a chance there are no other ghosts in town to cause mischief and mayhem. All we see is Desiree who hardly is the worst villain for someone, preferably an adult, to deal with.
Aside from the fact its a cartoon series called Danny Phantom there is no reason for Sam to do this again. And yet she persists in badgering Danny - who does not know her at all - into doing something he has no understanding of the consequences. The lack of informed consent was something that bothered me all the way back when I was 12 watching it live. So Sam makes Danny recreate the accident, making him Phantom again (this time with a logo that Sam slapped on without telling him bc she thought it looked cool. Again!!!! No discussion or anything). We get a few deeply uncomfortable segments of Danny relearning his powers before he magically remembers everything and its back to the status quo except now he's got a logo.
The literal whole point of the episode was to give him a marketable symbol to make him more like a "proper superhero". Sam's selfishness (a character flaw we see woven throughout the series but never meaningfully explored), the lack of consent, the stupid ass plot all combine to create what I think is a travesty of an episode.
I have gotten off topic but, yes, in both cases Sam's curiosity and overbearing nature combined with Danny's more passive personality and sense of wonder to pssp pssp pssp him into the death machine. There has been some excellent fic exploring (in an actual, realistic, interesting way) of the trio coping with Sam's casual suggestion leading to complete biological rewiring, a changed life trajectory, trauma and injury.
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Intrusive Thoughts
This is a fic based on this post from yesterday. I hope you guys like it and please leave your thoughts in the comments!
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It wasn’t unusual for Eddie to say something completely unexpected out of the blue. In fact, it was common practice for him to voice some of the strangest shit Steve has ever heard. He had some of the most concerning intrusive thoughts that Steve had ever borne witness to. From minor comments about jumping into traffic to bizarre mentions of pulling strangers' ponytails out of nowhere, Eddie has said some strange things. But sometimes, he still manages to surprise him.
This particular time, they were walking through downtown Chicago on a long-weekend trip. Eddie had badgered Steve for weeks to get a weekend off to take a short vacation up to the city to see a metal concert. Steve didn’t really want to go to a concert that he knew was going to be more screaming than singing but Eddie could be very persuasive when he wanted to be, and persistent. After being annoyed for three days in a row, Steve’s stubbornness faded and he agreed to take the time off work, drive to Chicago with Eddie, and keep him company doing ‘touristy’ things for a few days.
He had to admit too, he was having a good time despite his initial reservations. Chicago was a beautiful city and there was a lot more to do here than there was in Hawkins. They’d hit up a few touristy spots, had appreciated the wonderful architecture, and had put their fakes to good use to visit a bar or two. He was getting a little concerned about Eddie though.
On their walk to the concert venue one night, Eddie muttered, “I’m having the Midwestern urge to jump into traffic. You know, like a deer.”
At the time, Steve just nodded at him. It was 8 PM on a Friday and he was going to have to deal with a lot more noise than Eddie apparently wanting to jump in front of cars going 50 mph. So, he kept his mouth shut but grabbed a hold of Eddie’s wrist for the rest of their walk. This weirdo could think about it but there was no way in hell Steve was actually going to let him walk into the busy street. Fucking idiot.
The concert was just as insufferable and loud as Steve expected it to be. But the beaming smile Eddie had on his face for the rest of the night and into the early morning was worth the start of a migraine that Steve had to deal with. He’d do anything to keep Eddie happy. Even if that meant sticking out in a large group of metalheads and punks wearing a polo and light wash jeans.
The next day, Eddie was still riding his high from the concert. He was talking a mile a minute and practically vibrating in leftover excitement from last night. They were walking through the downtown area in search of something for lunch when they had to cross a bridge. Steve was watching the boats glide through the water on the river and Eddie was staring harshly at the slow-moving woman and child in front of them. When the mother and child stopped walking completely to peer over the edge at a boat, Eddie grunted angrily and leaned closer to whisper into Steve’s ear.
“Ah, the Midwestern urge to push the miniature human off the edge,” he rolled his eyes and bumped shoulders with Steve as though he expected agreement.
Instead, Steve’s head snapped to look at him in alarm. “Um… no. I love you but goddamn. Let’s not do that.”
He was able to remain a calm, albeit slightly alarmed, composure on the outside but on the inside he was astounded. Eddie’s violent thoughts were escalating and those were just the vocal ones that Steve knew about. What else was he thinking that he wasn’t unintentionally saying out loud? Meanwhile, Steve was thinking to himself, ‘what the fuck is wrong with this guy?’
“Relax Stevie. Ooo, can we stop and get pizza? They have deep dish here!” Steve just vaguely nodded and let him drag him across the street to the pizza parlor. What else was he supposed to do other than ignore his concerns for the time being?
Later that night when they were back in their hotel room, Steve decided to bring it up to Eddie. “Hey man, remember what you said earlier about pushing the kid off the bridge? Do you get thoughts like that a lot?”
Eddie looked at him confused. “What do you mean? I never think about hurting kids.”
“Seriously? You told me earlier today that you wanted to push that ‘miniature human’ off the bridge when they were walking really slow in front of us!” Steve raised his voice slightly, feeling a bit manic as he gestured his hands for emphasis.
“Stevie, that doesn’t sound like something I would say. Are you sure it isn’t something that you thought about and are trying to blame me for?” His eyes turned concerned and he tilted his head as if to analyze Steve.
“Don’t turn this around on me! I don’t think about pushing children from high ledges!”
“You have to because this thought came from somewhere and it wasn’t from me!”
There was a moment of silence between the two of them where Eddie was trying to remember if he actually had thought about it and mentioned it to Steve earlier while Steve panicked. Maybe it was him that thought about it. But that brought a whole other slew of problems. Why was Steve thinking about throwing children off of high surfaces? Was he reverting to the jerk he was back in high school? He thought he’d made progress but maybe not if he was thinking about hurting innocent, but very slow-moving, individuals.
Eddie patted his shoulder and drew his attention back to him, “hey man, I’m sure it’s fine. We all have thoughts like that sometimes, okay? Don’t overthink it. I’m going to go take a shower, you good?”
“Um, yeah,” Steve nodded. “I’m just going to call Robin and check in.”
“Sounds good, man. I’m going to be singing in there but I’ll stick to the songs you like. If you have any requests, just pop your head in and let me know.”
Steve laughed and threw a towel at him, “go take your damn shower!”
“I’m going, I’m going!” Eddie chuckled and ducked into the bathroom.
Steve’s smile dropped as soon as he was out of sight. Was he the one having intrusive thoughts? He could’ve sworn that Eddie had been the one to say it but he also had several head injuries under this belt. Arguably, Eddie’s memory would be better and more reliable even with his ADHD than his would be… Right?
He dialed Robin’s number in a daze, barely even registering the dial tone and only tuning back in when he heard her voice over the receiver. “Hello, Buckley residence. Is this Steve?”
“Hey Robs,” he said unenthusiastically. She, of course, immediately picked up on his downtrodden mood and moved to fix it.
“What’s wrong? Did Eddie do something? You’re four hours away right now but I can find a ride and be there in four and a half to kill him. If he so much as hurt your feelings, bruised them at all, I will start planning his murder this very second. Just say the word, Steve. I will take him out, no questions asked,” she rambled.
Steve just sighed. “I’m just confused. Earlier today, I could’ve sworn he said he had ‘a Midwestern urge’ to push a kid off a bridge we were walking on. But when I brought it up to him to hear what the fuck that was supposed to mean, he said it was my thought and he never had it. Am I a bad person, Robin?”
“No Steve, of course not! Aside from your frequent episodes of passive aggressive bitchiness, you’re the nicest person I know! And even when you are being a sassy bitch, it’s justified!” She reassured him.
“I thought about pushing a kid off of a bridge earlier today! That’s not nice at all!” Steve said in panic. He didn’t think she was understanding the severity of his thoughts.
“Steve, you practically have six kids of your own. There is no way you would’ve thought about pushing a kid off the ledge. Also, “a Midwestern urge”? That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. It had to have been Eddie that said it.”
“But-”
“Steve, Eddie’s memory sucks worse than yours does which honestly, I didn’t even know was possible until we became friends with him. Between his nonexistent brain-to-mouth filter and his ADHD, he can’t remember anything. I am 100% positive that he’s the one that said that. You’re a good person and you’re nothing like King Steve was in high school, okay? You’re my best friend and I wouldn’t be your best friend if you were still a jerk. Who do you take me for? Don’t insult me!” She simultaneously comforted, raged, and belittled. As always, Steve was impressed with her ability to do all three so effectively.
“I’m sorry, you’re right. You wouldn’t be my friend if I was still an asshole. I was just worried after-”
Robin cut him off again. “Hey, you don’t need to be worried. You’re fine. Where is Eddie? I want to speak with him.”
“Rob-”
“Put Eddie on the phone, Steve! I have things to say to him. If you don’t give him the phone so I can yell at him, I’m going to get a ride and proceed with my murder plan. Do not test me, Dingus!” She screeched through the phone.
“Jesus Christ, fine.” He pulled the phone away from his ear and yelled to Eddie in the bathroom where the water was no longer running. “Eds! Robin wants to talk to you, come here.”
He heard something fall, a muffled curse, and a subsequent thump before the bathroom door slid open and out stumbled Eddie. His hair was still wet and he only had a towel wrapped around his waist. “Yeah?”
Steve stared at the tattoos on his chest for a full minute until he heard Robin clear her throat. He darted his eyes up to look at Eddie’s face from where they rested on his torso. Eddie’s eyes were flooded with amusement and a smirk was stretched across his face. “See something you like, Stevie?”
He frowned through a rapidly spreading blush and held the phone out to him. “Don’t get smug now, asshole. Robin wants to tear you a new one, here.”
“What? What did I-”
Steve could hear some of what Robin yelled over the phone starting with, “Stop trying to manipulate my best friend, you maniac! He’s had at least three concussions, dipshit. It’s a miracle he even remembers all of our last names!”
He heard a litany of very creative insults for a solid five minutes before Eddie told her, “alright, I promise I won’t accuse Steve of having my own intrusive thoughts ever again. Have a good night. Mhmm, bye now.”
He hung up the phone and turned to Steve. His eyes were big and surprised and his bottom lip quivered a little bit. “Look Stevie, I know you’re probably still mad that I unintentionally freaked you out by making you think you were going crazy. But your best friend is really scary and I really need a hug right now so can we revisit the apologies later?”
Steve just laughed and opened his arms wide so Eddie could jump into them. They’d have to talk about Eddie pushing his intrusive thoughts onto others but for now, they would hug and enjoy a peaceful night in their hotel on vacation in Chicago. Life couldn’t get better than this.
(@anzelsilver @zerokrox-blog thanks for your ideas in the comments of the last post, I made sure to include them in this one!)
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🦮 fill this empty space (ask game)
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This turned out to be... longer than a snippet, and like the summary, angstier than I expected. It's been that kind of week ig! But there's a promising ending because I needed one :)
It had been a warm summer day when the old Marinette died.
The new Marinette woke up surrounded by golden light, soft, green grass, and the soft murmurings of a stream in northern France. It was perhaps the best way for her rebirth to happen, in a calm, relaxing environment far from the place she somehow knew was home.
She met her family there. They already knew her, and called her "maman," or "ma femme," or "my lady."
Marinette was no one's lady. She never had been, but according to video evidence and the testimony of her husband and children and best friend, that was one of the many roles her past self had filled.
Marinette did not know how to fill any of those old roles anymore. But because of the secret, magical way she'd chosen to lose her memories, she couldn't let anyone know this fact. She had to study years worth of business lessons in mere weeks, preparing for her return to Paris and the international company she would soon be in charge of running again.
At least her past self had accounted for this new Marinette's incompetence. But no one else seemed to see that she wasn't the same woman she had been once, back when a kwami lived in her purse and villains of the day (and year) kept plaguing Paris.
Adrien, the man past-Marinette had married, professed to still be in love with her. He saw some of the differences between the new Marinette and the old one, but claimed they weren't nearly as big as Marinette thought they were. And he chose to spend most of his time around her, so maybe he was right. He whispered praises for each small thing she did, both when they were alone and in public; took the time to learn her new habits; made her fresh coffee for when she woke up two hours after he did; stayed out of her bed to help her feel comfortable.
Marinette could see why her past self had loved him. It was something both halves of her were beginning to share, a love for this man who found a way to bring joy to her life even when it had been turned upside down.
But it didn't change the fact that the new Marinette was not the same woman he'd married. That fact was written into the vows Adrien and the past Marinette had exchanged; the way they had split up their chores; the daily schedule that Adrien still remembered while the new Marinette did not.
To Marinette, this new self of hers was nothing more than a facade made to cover the void her past self had left behind. She was thirty years old and as empty inside as a newborn baby, with no memories to guide her through this unfamiliar world.
Marinette was an icon, the magazines said. A paragon of virtue in an age of corruption, one half of both Paris' favorite couples, a woman who managed to be a world-famous CEO and an attentive mother at the same time.
That wasn't the new Marinette's reality. She didn't even know her children's middle names, though she was learning their favorite desserts, sports, and hobbies.
Most days, it was like learning a foreign language, and it felt just as isolating when she got something wrong or tried to remember something she thought she knew but actually didn't. Sometimes, this new life of hers was crushing, a drain on her already empty self, taking the last bit of Marinette out of her.
But not always.
As out of place as Marinette felt in her own life, the people in it still felt right somehow. They'd been there for her when she woke up; they were there to hug and comfort her when she cried in the night, to help teach her about her own life and tell her about theirs, and to listen when she said she felt different. They loved her, that much was clear, and they promised to love her no matter which Marinette she was; the old one with all her memories or the new one just fumbling through life.
And somehow, even though she claimed not to feel anything more for them than for other strangers at first, Marinette still loved them back. Their presence soothed the ache she felt in her chest, the one she felt when she couldn't remember, and she found herself more than missing them when they weren't there. She looked forward to hearing about their day, to learning their middle names; she held on to the facts they told her about themselves like sweet gifts of gold and honey, like they were all she needed to survive, to fill the empty space her memories had left behind.
The new Marinette was not the old one, and she never would be.
But maybe that was okay. The new Marinette had her own space, too; it began here, in this remote, rural town near the seashore, and it would expand back to Paris, to the place where the old Marinette had lived.
Marinette's home had always been her family, the people she loved. That was something she knew without having to remember it, and something she was more sure of every day.
So she studied the journals her past self had written, re-learned how to design, baked bread beside Adrien, sang songs with her children and stayed by their side. If her mind was an empty slate, then she was going to fill it with love, the same love she'd chosen before and was choosing again.
And someday, this new Marinette would feel whole again.
Thanks for the ask! I hope you enjoyed <3
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