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#ALSO THE FACT HE JUST . EVERY MOVIE HE FINDS OUT TONY IS ACTUALLY AN EVEN WORSE PERSON THAT HE PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED AND
pbnmj · 1 year
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actually you know what the mcu was absolutely evil for introducing spider-man and immediately making him follow iron man around and then ALSO using him as a prop to make iron man look cooler meanwhile peter barely gets a faithful story of his own IN HIS OWN MOVIES
#sorry that it takes like. one textpost to get me writing a paragraph wall#THE FACT. IRON MAN . IS A MASSIVE PLOT POINT IN HOCO AND ALSO IN FFH. BROTHER I DO NOT FUCKING CARE ABOUT THIS GUY#DO NOT GET ME FUCKING STARTED ON THE SONY MOVIES . I AM SO . FUCKING . INSANE RN#I MISS HARRY SOOOOOOOO BAD I WANT PARKSBORN CODEPENDENCY NOWWWWWWWWWW#PERSONAL#THE FACT THAT HOCO IS 'peter is so young and naive he keeps making mistakes'#AND THEN FFH IS 'peter is so young and naive he keeps making mistakes'#AND THEN NWH IS 'peter is so young and naive he keeps making mistakes'#DUDE WHEN DOES HE LEARN. WHEN DOES HE GET CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT#ALSO THE FACT HE JUST . EVERY MOVIE HE FINDS OUT TONY IS ACTUALLY AN EVEN WORSE PERSON THAT HE PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED AND#NOOOOTTTTHINGGGGGG IS DONE ABOUT IT#the fact it took 3 movies of fucking around and it ended up with the mcu implying he's going to be more comics accurate. or at least less ..#like that....#like you have a trilogy to do something with spidey and also an EXTENDED UNIVERSE and nothing happens#the nymcu (new york marvel cinematic universe) where its just daredevil and spider man and some select avengers that i like is very real to#me. VERY real to ME#we also seriously have to lower the stakes i'd love for him to be a friendly neighborhood spider-man#im not joking. why was he even in england. like just write any semblance of plot so peter feels responsible and FOLLOWS beck to england#because he literally cannot leave it alone. because it is his responsibility. because he cant help but think this is his fault#mostly a joke cause i dont love england but still.#SOMEHTING LIKE THIS PLEASE. PLEASE PPPPLLLLLEEEAAAAASE (the sniper on the opposing rooftop takes the shot and kills me)#edit: excuse me everybody i am not hating on tasm i love andrew garfield so much i can look over its issues#i AM hating on the weird little fucking spiderman universe theyre making without a spiderman. LMFAO#like what is sony thinking . WHAT.#morbius and also the kraven movie i have so little hopes for you its insane#and i very much enjoyed the venom movies but theyre also soooo fun as a standalone#where eddie is just going a widdle batshit
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camilaxmartin · 1 year
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Hi luv I was wondering if you could do a Shuri x fem reader, what it would be like to date her/how she would be in a relationship.
If you can't that's ok.
Have a good rest of your day/night luv🫂💕
ღ dating shuri!
hi sun! thank you so much for requesting! it was my first request ever so i’m pretty excited about it lmao, anyway. i’m sorry if there are any mistakes, it was my first time writing headcanons like that and also writing it in english so it was even more of a challenge, but i hope you enjoy them!! love you <3
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navigation // request // me and find the rest!
summary: just some headcanons on what i think meeting/dating shuri would be like
warnings: SPOILERS FOR BP: WAKANDA FOREVER !!!
notes: i didn’t specifically write you as tony stark’s daughter here (but i was imagining it while writing lol) but you’re really interested in technology and everything in this one, i hope it doesn’t bother you. shuri was 16 in the first bp movie so she’s around that age in here, and so are you. (not that it matters but that just how i see it) have a great day/night too! i hope you love it sun! enjoy!!
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• let’s begin with some backstory
• first time you met shuri when all the avengers arrived in wakanda, before infinity war for vision’s little “operation”
• coming into the lab you saw a girl, working on something
• when she saw some people were coming in, she turned around and then you saw her — you froze
• natasha immediately recognised your state, she quickly came up to you bringing you back on earth. lucky for you, shuri haven’t noticed anything, being too caught up on her work or so you thought
• after some time most of the team left the lab, leaving shuri to deal with her work at peace, natasha gave you the last glance making sure you won’t make a fool out of yourself when you’re alone with “the pretty girl” but you ignored her, looking out of the window
• there were just the two of you alone in her lab (almost alone, if you want to count turned-off vision, laying down on a table)
• you didn’t know what to say so you just stayed in your place right next to the window, being so interested in the beautiful nature behind it
• suddenly you heard a chuckle, breaking the somehow uncomfortable silence
• “you didn’t think i haven’t noticed your stare, did you?” she asked not looking up from her work
• you turned around to face her, noticing the little smirk she got rilled up on her face
• “you’re not as slick as you think, american” she looked up at you, and that was the moment your eyes met
• “it’s not my fault i can’t resist looking at a pretty girl, when i see one” you finally responded, not knowing from where you suddenly got the bravery. shuri smiled even more at your comment.
• and just like that after some time the two of you started dating
• (let’s just assume thanos didn’t erase half of the universe)
• when t’challa found out about you two, to your big surprise he welcomed you to the family with open arms and started treating you like his another little sister, which was pretty sweet
• but when the avengers found out,,,
• natasha, who was actually the first one to officially know about your relationship - she was joyful you found someone who made you as happy as shuri did
• tony was a bit more sceptical but it quickly passed when he discovered by his own eyes how amazing this relationship was serving you both
• the rest of the team didn’t really care that much but were genuinely happy you got someone to spend time with
• at the start of your relationship shuri was self-isolating herself when things were getting more serious, but when she found out she could really trust and count on you everything changed
• she came up to you with every little problem she got. even if you didn’t know the answer - she just wanted someone to fully listen to her and not judge her despite the fact she’s “just a kid”
• lucky for you both, with problems she got in the lab you were more than happy to help her and finally try out all of the amazing technology they got there, even if you weren’t totally sure what you were doing
• after some time, when you two grew closer, one day she gave you a gift — kimoyo bracelet. you were speechless and couldn’t believe your own eyes. shuri said it wasn’t a big deal and that it’ll ease your communication with each other
• it was a big deal, it was a huge deal. you put on the bracelet and immediately kissed her showing her how much it meant to you. she kissed you back with the same passion while smiling in to the kiss, easily reading your expression
• you were often flying to shuri to wakanda than shuri was flying to you. not that it bothered you, let’s be real the beauty of that place was taking away your breath every time you got to see it
• when you got deeper into your relationship you noticed she was totally different from the girl you met for the first time in the lab
• she was more out-going and highly-spirited than you previously assumed
• but there were certain things that you were right about
• for example, shuri didn’t know how to handle her problems so she was just hiding in her lab, excusing herself that she desperately needs to work on this or that
• good for her, you were always the one to take her out of there and try to figure out some other way for her to cope with problems
• most of the time it was working and the two of you almost always ended up at the roof of their palace watching stars and having those deep convos
• but at the time when even you couldn’t pull her away from work you just kept her company there, making sure she wasn’t overworking herself
• after all, you were the only one who could be around her when she was in a terrible mood (and t’challa but it was depending on a day and the reason of the mood, really)
• as i previously said, shuri is a cheerful person when she feels comfortable
• she is the type of person to tell the most unfunny jokes on the planet, but they are actually funny because of the way she says them
• let’s not forget the part that you both love working on new technology, so you can expect a lot of lab dates
• just the two of you, whole lab for the both of you and endless time, what to want more?
• just shuri in general i mean let’s be real
• i feel like she would like cuddling but like the official version is that she doesn’t like it but you know better than that
• shuri is a girl kisser
• and she’s great at it (and she knows it!)
• with that being said, im sure she would know how to make the other person just loose their mind even by a quick kiss
• i also feel like she’d be such a tease i mean-
• like when you’re working in the lab with the rest of the avengers she will smoothly move her hand around you to finally state it on your waist
• or or
• she will sneak behind you and totally “accidental” touch your lower back, back, arms or any part of your body to be honest
• and while the others would be pretty confused why are you looking like a tomato, she would just quietly chuckle not to anybody’s notice (well, natasha’s maybe)
• ya i see that as pretty “shuri thing”tm
• (actually i have two versions of shuri in my head but let’s just roll with this one sksjsjssk)
• i think shuri’s the type to not be afraid to make a move or do something more bold that you’d expect, i mean look at your first meeting, ya? ya.
• you were the only person she opened up to after the death of her brother
• the first time you two said “i love you” must have been the time, when namor started his attack on wakanda
• when queen ramonda died, shuri got no one left besides you
• it was also the time you two grew even closer than before, not that you could think it was possible
• when shuri again buried herself in the lab desperately trying to make the heart plant work, you and riri were there to help her with everything you could
• finally, when the recipe was correct and shuri took it, you couldn’t be more proud
• after her “vision” you knew something was up
• you took her to the side and said that she can trust you with who she saw, but even if she decides not to tell you, you’ll happily respect it
• eventually she told you, killmonger was the one she had met with
• you were speechless but tried to not let it be seen, to not scare her off
• as an avenger and one of the smartest people on team, shuri was grateful you’d be helping them in the battle
• even tho at first you fighting along with her was out of question; she was just afraid of losing you as the last person she cared about to be fair, who wearing her shoes wouldn’t be scared?
• eventually she agreed, but said that before the fight, she needed to make some changes in your suit — on which you were more than happy to agree
• shuri made sure your suit could protect you at all cost and that nothing possibly could happen to you, she did everything in her own for you
• the two of you were at the top of the ship, getting ready to fight
• she then suddenly took your hand in hers and while looking at the horizon said “i can’t loose you today, or any day, i need you”
• tears filled your eyes. it was just a simple sentence, but it made your heart shutter
• “you won’t loose me, today or any day. i’ll be always there for you, i promise” you said looking at her, but her eyes were still focused on the water in front of you
• “don’t promise me anything” she scuffed, finally turning her head to you along with her eyes “i just…” she squeezed your hand a bit
• “shuri” you said, needing her full attention “nothing bad won’t happen today. i’ll be fine, and you’ll too” you assured her, even tho you didn’t fully believe your own words
• “i love you” she said a moment later which took you by surprise “i just wanted you to know that” she added, looking away
• your eyes again started to tear up “i love you too, shuri” you said it back, watching as a little smile crowded its way up on her face “more than anything” you hugged her so tight, while she kissed your forehead still looking at the horizon, but this time she was smiling
• the battle began and everything went smoothly and along your plan
• when you saw shuri fighting as a black panther you could’ve not been more proud and more in love
• at the end of the day, when you saw her along with namor both of them speaking to their people, you knew everything went even better than you expected
• when all of the wakandininas came back to their homes everything went back to normal
• shuri was the new queen of wakanda which was surreal to be honest
• more or less a month after all of this you and shuri could be enjoying a holiday together finally doing everything and anything you want <3
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xdeariex · 1 year
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too late
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summary: peter plans a getaway trip to treat you but doesn't show. fem!reader, both reader & peter are like early twenties (let's just pretend that's when tony recruited peter.)
word count: 1645 (still kind of a blurb, idrk where i was going with this)
warnings: angst, swearing that's basically it
a/n: definitely inspired by the opening scene of the movie 'american ultra' also, i haven't posted in a long time and i wrote this at like 3 am so just give me a little time to edit
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you weren't sure how much hope you had for the unforeseeable future. or even the future that held just a few hours ahead.
having a boyfriend like peter, everything was uncertain. and no, it wasn't just to take a dig at him, you loved him with all your heart and knew what you were getting into when you decided to stay with him after finding out he was spider-man.
the missed dates, missed calls, texts, and events. the missed time together. you were amazingly understanding, it came as a surprise to not only you but peter as well.
still, this didn't mean that you didn't find yourself disappointed sometimes.
it all started as peter's idea. a trip. not just a day trip or a few-hour road trip. an actual trip, a getaway. somewhere it would feel like only the two of you existed. no criminals, no stress, only you two.
and normally one would think if it was peter's idea, and the trip didn't pull through, then it must've been you, you were the one who flaked. but that wasn't true.
seated in the airport terminal, your leg wouldn't stop bouncing. you chewed at your fingernails, anxiety taking you out in waves. the tears were burning your eyes but there was no way you were going to cry in public like this.
especially when you knew this would happen. in fact, you expected it to happen. it was too good to be true. every fiber in your body was fighting against acting upon the rage filling you with each passing second. and as the final call for your flight was forced to be ignored by you, you huffed out a breath, lifting out of your seat and rolling your suitcase with you to the exit.
'i'll meet you at the airport' he said.
that should've been the first sign he wasn't coming.
peter already felt guilty. so guilty, he felt physically sick. to make matters worse, he was late. doing what? he wasn't out assisting the police in a car chase, or stopping some wanna-be criminal from stealing the purse out of some poor lady's car in the middle of the day. instead, he was pacing on the roof of your apartment. his chest rising and falling as he felt his own anxiousness suffocating him.
he couldn't lessen the worry of what would happen while he was gone. there were people that depended on him, a whole city, tony. could he just leave it all behind? and what about when we got back? will everyone have turned on him for not being here?
"fuck," he kept mumbling over and over, migraine absolutely killing him. his hands were shaking profusely. no matter how hard he gripped one in the other, the shakes wouldn't stop, nerves flowing through him rapidly. this weight was crushing him second by second - and the more peter pictured you, confused, alone, angry even- it got heavier.
he had the decision to make, and fast.
unfortunately, he didn't make the deadline. he subconsciously made his choice and now would have to pay the price when he saw the look on his girlfriend's face.
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a voice in the back of your head kept urging you to do nothing but pay attention to the road.
he was sitting right next to you in the passenger seat and although he was completely silent, his presence weighed a heavy tension between you both. so thick you could slice it with a knife. and what you'd give to do just that.
"y/n, i'm sorry." he finally broke the silence, voice shaky. you didn't even want to know if he was looking at you or not.
"it's okay." your voice was sweet and convincing. a part of you just wanted to convince him so you could convince yourself as well.
he eyed the promise ring on your finger, he remembered picking up a (less than) part time job in order to save up for that ring. he got fired right after he bought it. your birthstone sat on the band of the ring and in the right light, it really did look beautiful. but the beautiful image was soon squandered when he saw your knuckles. white, from gripping the wheel so hard.
"i-it's not." he finally replied.
he wanted you to know that he already know's he fucked up, he's aware. he wants you to know that he cares about you more than words could explain and not even all the sorry's in the world could cover how fucking sorry he is.
"peter, i said it's fine," you said in the same tone as the first time.
"no, it's not fine." he persisted.
"i really wanted to do this for you, you know? i researched what hotels were best to go to, the restaurants, the stores… i know you would've loved to drag me to all of them." at this point he was rambling on to himself. "i fucked up, i ruined it."
"you didn't ruin it." you shook your head, trying to get him to just… stop.
but now you knew he was looking at you. he could see your eyes glassing over, although you were trying your hardest to blink them back without blurring your vision. you knew he wouldn't let up until you gave him some sort of reaction but what were you supposed to do? what would getting upset do other than put you both in an uncomfortable position neither of you wanted to be in?
"you should be mad at me-"
"i'm not." you interrupted, glancing over at him for just a second.
"well, why not?" he nearly spluttered out.
"it's not your fault, peter. i mean you have a lot on your plate, it's not easy to just walk away-"
"seriously?"
"what do you want me to say? it's… it's alot! is it not? isn't that why we're going back home?"
you didn't mean that in a passive-aggressive way. more of an 'i'm trying to understand you' way. but peter picked at whatever he could get.
"no, we're going back home 'cause i fucked up more times than i can count. it's my fault, i ruined this for us."
"don't-" you took a deep breath, thanking whatever god was to bless you for only being a couple of miles from home. "don't say that, alright? it's okay. i promise."
those were the last words spoken for the remained of the ride. pulling into the driveway, you swiftly turned the key out of the ignition and rushed out of the car, not worried about the luggage.
still, peter called out. "i'll get the bags." before you slammed your door and made a quick beeline for the front door of your apartment.
in the few seconds, you had to yourself, you choked down any emotion, hoping to finally just convince peter that you weren't mad. you really weren't, you didn't feel as mad as you did at the airport. you were just... disappointed. anyone would be if they planned a trip to Hawaii with their partner and their partner didn't show.
you shook your head as if that would rid you of your thoughts. every time you tried to reason with the situation, it just made peter seem bad and you didn't want that- you understood.
when he stumbled in with the suitcases, you looked at him blankly for a moment, thinking of what to say or do. nothing came to mind. you took your suitcase from his hands and went to your room, hoping to unpack both your luggage and your mind.
there was truly nothing more to say, you're already told him you weren't mad (though he didn't believe a single word of it).
setting the suitcase on your bed and unzipping it, you looked down at what you had packed. a couple bathing suits, nothing too extra (you intended on just pulling it together with a sheer coverup), casual outfits - summer outfits. one's you could no longer wear at this time given it was fall in new york and the weather was less than forgiving. packed at the bottom of the luggage was the ugliest palm tree button-up you'd ever seen in your life. peter insisted you buy matching ones, claiming it'd make the cutest picture, the cutest memory.
"ah, what the fuck?" you sighed out, the heel of your palm pressing down on your eyes as you tried desperately not to cry.
"i knew it," you were startled by peter's voice behind you. "you are upset." his voice cracked, walking over to you and pushing your suitcase out of the way. he sat in the spot now, looking up at the way you towered over him. "I want you to be upset with me."
"peter, stop it."
"no, I won't. it's not fair to you."
"it's not going to help either of us if I lash out at you." you brought your hand up to his hair, pushing back the curls falling in his eyes. it reminded you of how you two sat up late last night debating if you should give him a haircut, make it more manageable before you left. clearly, you both decided against it. you didn't mind, you loved his hair longer.
with nothing blocking your view now, you could see in his eyes. you could practically feel the guilt radiating from him and if you chose to ignore it before, that sad, desperate look in his eyes only struck you harder.
"i just..." he choked on his words, letting his head fall to your chest, words now muffled by your clothes. "I'm really, really sorry, baby." he apologized for quite literally the millionth time.
"pete. it's okay."
"you deserve so much better."
"oh, so i have a man telling me my worth now?" you teased, hoping to lighten the mood.
"i'll make it up to you." he looked up at you again. "I fucking... i swear, I promise. i mean it this time, I do."
"i know you do, baby."
"i love you."
"i love you too, peter."
you had no doubt he meant it, you just weren't sure how he was going to keep to his word this time. or if he was even going to.
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differenteagletragedy · 5 months
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i was reading through your blog and omg musicals!!!! a theater kid, myself, i'd love if you'd write some headcanons about a broadway/musical star mc, if its not too close to your famous mc headcanons! also, i'd love to hear if you think the ol1 boys can sing and who would help mc practice (both lines and singing)! also who would sing along with mc while they're doing chores/housework/etc or if they'd just listen/hum/etc! you can just assume theyre poly with mc for this, if it makes it easier! :)
Listen. Listen. I love this so much. I am also a theatre kid (so much that I am forced to spell it with the "re" at the end) and I have many thoughts.
Also, Bobby from Company is Baxter after he reconnects with MC and friends, with an MC that ends up with Cove or Derek and this is just a fact. Evidence:
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This is a video of single Baxter with his ten friends in five couples: Cove and MC, Derek and Tamarack, Terry and Miranda, Jude and Scott, and Qiu and OLNF MC.
ANYWAY.
-- Cove is such a fanboy. He's there to see your shows literally every time he can make it and will be disappointed if he can't come. He knows all the words to all the songs and a lot of the dialogue too. He is so proud.
-- Did you get to make a recording of your show? Try to get Cove to play something else in the car, I dare you.
-- Derek is also a big big fan, he is telling anyone who will listen about how he's your friend/boyfriend/husband. Jorge might have to tell him to chill a little bit but he's just so EXCITED.
-- He will make a point to pick you up after your evening shows. The crew knows him, so he just comes backstage after and will walk with you out the stage door. It's late and people are unpredictable, and he wants to keep you safe.
-- Baxter, surprise, also a big fan! If you started Broadway after the breakup in Step 3 then he may not figure it out, Broadway stars aren't as mainstream as movie or pop stars, for example. But he'll obviously find out when you're brought back together in Step 4 and he'll have some much research to do on you during those lost years!
-- He'll be streaming your recordings and just feeling so many things.
-- But maybe in Step 3 you've decided to pursue your theatrical dreams! A last summer at home before you move to New York, perhaps. Let Baxter take your headshots for you! He will be so good at it. He will also style you.
-- If this is the case, that you move after Step 3, I don't think Cove will move too. He could! But I can't picture him leaving the California coast. Long distance love. He and Cliff come in to see your big shows.
-- Cliff cries. Cove does too, he got it from his dad.
-- Maybe Derek will blow off a big game because it's his only chance to come see you. He feels bad about it, but he's not going to miss your big moment.
-- I haven't thought about this too much shut up
-- Boys at the Tonys! Baxter is going to KILL IT. I've talked about this with the general famous MC stuff lol, the awards show stuff, but he's going to dress to impress. So will Derek, this is very important and the boy who wore a polka dot bowtie at 13 isn't going to pull out any stops.
-- You're going to have to tell Cove to button all his buttons though, it's not the time for your cleavage baby
-- I think Baxter is the only one who could carry a tune, but he wouldn't try to get technically good. Cove is bearable with his singing. Derek really is not, but he has so much fun with it that no one would ever tell him to stop.
-- They'll all help you with your lines. Derek might actually learn lines instead of reading them from a script so he can help you practice while he's driving or something. And yeah, that's a lot, but that's just who he is.
-- If you're just having fun singing, in the car or doing chores or whatever, then they'll all sing with you. But if they catch you really going for it in the shower or something, they will all just stop and listen because oh my GOD
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maximons · 2 years
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Where Am I?
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Chapter Summary: Going from swinging around New York City to waking up in an entirely new reality is a confusing and stressful as it sounds. But Y/n was used to life throwing curveballs, being Spider-Woman and all. But this...was definitely new. Where was she? And how does she get back home?
Word Count: 3,725
Warnings: Mentions of Violence
A/N: Hey guys! Welcome to my new mini series! This takes place after the movie, so here is your official warning: Spoiler Alert for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and Spider-Man: No Way Home. In this story, Y/n is based off of Miles Morales. Also, there’s another note under the cut, but it’s a spoiler. Hope you enjoy!
To Find A Home: Series Masterlist
*Okay, so here, MoM ended differently. Wanda still takes down the castle, but doesn’t bury herself inside. Instead, she’s taken back to Kamar Taj and imprisoned.*
Your eyes snapped open as you took in a huge gasp of air. 
You did your best to get a sense of your surroundings, but everything around you was overwhelming your already heighted senses. You tried to slow your panicked breathing as the familiar sounds of New York filled your ears. 
That’s when you noticed you were lying in the middle of 38th street. That’s probably why the honking sounded even louder than normal.
“What the hell is wrong with you? Get out of the road!”
And the shouting.
“Are you fucking kidding me right now!?”
“Take your shitty Spider-Man Cosplay somewhere else! People got actual jobs!”
Wait, what?
That last one got your attention. You sprang to your feet quickly, something the surrounding civilians clearly didn’t expect from you, and scanned the crowd. Your spidey senses picked up on the voice of the person who shouted that last statement.
“Hey, you!” You made a small leap over to the man, who jumped back slightly. “What did you mean by that? Spider-Man Cosplay?”
“Uh...yeah?” The man coughed as he regained his composure, thankful you weren’t coming over to attack him like he originally thought. “You got the pattern right, but Spider-Man’s blue and red, you got a mostly black thing going on.” He explained, and with every word you grew more confused, if not a little annoyed.
“Come on.” You sighed with annoyance. “I know Spider-Man’s been doing this way longer than me, but I’ve been around a while too y’know.”
The man looked at you as if you were crazy. And maybe with the tattered appearance of your suit and the fact that you were literally just lying in the middle of the street gave that thought some justification. “Am I supposed to know who you are?”
You scoffed. “I’m Spider-Woman.” You said like it’s obvious, but no recognition came across the man’s face. There was a small crowd surrounding you now that began whispering, some laughing at your statement.
“What, like his wife?” Someone else asked.
“What? Ew, no!” You rejected immediately. “No, come on, I saved the city like a bunch of times.”
“Yeah, sure you did.” Another voice piped up.
“Uh, yeah, of course I...” You trailed off. This wasn’t just a case of one or two people not following the news, the fact that literally no one around you knew who you were was seriously odd. Something was up. “I...sorry.” You excused yourself, choosing to walk away from the crowd instead of swinging to avoid more confrontation.
You tried to clear your head as you walked, but you couldn’t help but pick up on your surroundings, which made your suspicions grow.
‘I thought they took that building down months ago’
‘Isn’t the Daily Bugle a newspaper?’
‘Tony Stark is dead? Since when?’
Your short walk stopped when you got to Times Square. You looked up at the one of the billboards that was playing the news, and the headline got your attention. ‘Two-Year Anniversary of The Blip.’
“Um, excuse me?” You turned to a bystander. “Can you tell me what that’s about?” You gestured to the billboard, and the guy did a double take before scoffing.
“Yeah, good one.” He said as he stormed off. It was only then when it finally clicked. You didn’t know how, but this wasn’t the New York you knew. You weren’t where you were supposed to be.
So where the hell were you?
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One Month Later
Peter Parker had dealt with a lot in his life, he should know to expect the unexpected by now. 
So when a night that started as normal Spider-Man patrol was interrupted by someone else in a Spider suit, he shouldn’t have been surprised. But alas, he still was.
“Hey there!” He was mid swing when he heard it. He turned to see someone, a woman, in a suit like his, only it was black with red accents. You shot out a web line, swinging alongside him, but it didn’t last for long as he lost his concentration in shock.
You watched as this world’s Spider-Man let out a yelp and fell thirty stories below before landing on the roof of a shorter building. You chuckled, knowing he was fine, before flipping off your own web line to join him.
“Gotta say you’re a lot more graceful on my world, Pete.” You chuckled. You expected a quip in response but there was only silence as he stared straight at you. “And less serious too.”
“You know who I am?” 
“Yeah, of course I know who you are.” A month ago you would’ve been confused at his statement, but at this point you knew you were an outsider, so you began to explain.  “Peter Parker is pretty much the whole reason I got this Spider-thing under control. You- or he, I guess, has been my mentor and friend for the past five years.” You didn’t get any response back again so you continued. “I’m starting to get the hint that I’m not a thing here.”
“Well...I’m sorry, it’s not just that it’s...” He trailed off with a sigh as he sat on the ledge of the building. You joined him after a few more moments, silently encouraging him to continue. “No one knows who I am...no one’s supposed to.” He said as he took off his mask. Your eyes widened at who was revealed.
He noticed your silence and turned to your, confusion and panic taking over as he saw your reaction. “What, what is it?”
“Sorry, it’s just...you’re a kid.” You said, letting out an breathless chuckle. Peter’s face morphed from confused to offended at what you said.
“I’m 18, that’s an adult.”
“Yeah, well to a 27 year old, that’s very much a kid.” You laughed. “Sorry, it’s just I’m used to my Peter being older. He’s married with a kid on the way and everything so-” You shook your head, stopping yourself. You were getting off track. 
“Anyway, kid or not, you’re still Spider-Man. And right now I need Spider-Man’s help.”
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After explaining your situation to him, Peter took you back to his small apartment to figure out your next steps. 
After climbing through the window and shutting it behind you, you both hopped down and felt secure enough to take your masks off. Peter went to turn his light on but groaned when nothing happened.
“No, no, no! I paid in advance this month!” He muttered angrily as he flipped the switch repeatedly, hoping that would somehow turn it on. 
You watched his struggle for a moment before surveying the apartment, finding a power outlet fairly quickly. “Here, I got it.” You crouched down, holding your fingertips to it. Peter watched as orange sparks flowed out of your fingers and into the outlet quickly. Before you could even say anything, his lights flickered back on.
“Whoa! I-whoa!” You stood and turned to peter, smiling at his reaction. ”How did you do that- I can’t do that!”
“Yeah, you can’t on my world either. Long story short, something must’ve been different about the spider that bit me, I can do this too.” Before Peter could even ask what, you vanished before his eyes. He looked around in confusion and astonishment.
“Boo!” He heard your voice behind him, causing him to jump in shock. You laughed again as you reappeared.
“That’s insane! Invisibility and electric powers!?”
“Camouflage and Bio-electricity technically, but yep!” You said with a proud smile. “Those were fun to navigate when I first discovered them.”
“I wish I could do that, that’s so cool! I got so many questions, but-”
“Later.” You finished his sentence, agreeing. First things first, you had to hear his plan on helping you before you could geek out with this world’s Peter.
“So I know why and how you got here, like I told you, but I’m not sure why you didn’t go back.”
“What do you mean?”
“Well, when I told Strange to reverse the spell, that should’ve sent everyone back to their own universes. Everyone who knew I was Spider-Man left this reality and the ones that knew that already lived here...forgot.”
You eyebrows rose at what he said. It clicked for you why he said no one should know who he was. He must’ve made some kind of sacrifice. “Oh...Peter, I’m sorry.”
“No, no don’t be. It had to be done.” Peter waved it off, and you knew better than to push. Peter continued his original thought. “But you were clearly left behind, and Strange doesn’t make mistakes...at least he’s not supposed to.” You both thought for a moment on your next move. You looked back up at each other, and you could tell you were thinking the same thing.
“You know where we can find him?”
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“You have got to be kidding me.”
“Look, Mr. Wong, we just need to talk to Strange so he can help her.”
“I should’ve known you were going to continue to be a pain in the ass somehow Spider-Man.”
You watched the back and forth between Peter, now masked, and this ‘Wong’ guy in silence. They went at it for a few more moments before you decided you had enough. “Uh, hi!” You interrupted, causing both guys to look at you. “I really don’t want to be a ‘pain in the ass’, I just want to go home.”
Wong looked to Spider-Man for a moment before looking back at you with a sigh. All of a sudden, he spun his arm around. Dark orange sparks circled in mid air, creating a small portal. Wong nodded his head towards it, indicating you two get in it. “Let’s go before I change my mind.”
You looked into the portal, seeing what could only be described as ancient temple grounds on the other side, with people who were dressed exactly like this Wong guy going about their business. You turned to him, wishing he could see your raised eyebrow under your mask. “What’s that supposed to be?”
“Your only shot of going home. Strange is in Kamar Taj right now, and it’s a good thing he is because any resources you could use are also there.” 
You turned to Peter. “I’m just supposed to believe this guy?”
“Yeah!” He answered immediately. “Wong and Strange are the best at this kind of thing.”
“Aren’t they the reason I’m here in the first place?” 
Peter paused. “Well, I-”
“No, Strange is.” Wong interrupted. “I remember precisely saying to leave me out of it. And this” He gestured to you and the portal. “Is not leaving me out of it.” With that, he shook his head and took a step into the portal, turning back to you two after stepping through.
“But, of course, I’m in it. So let’s get this sorted out.”
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“You’ve gotta be kidding me.”
“Oh, hey, two for two.” 
Strange gave you a once over at your response to his comment. He let out a humorless chuckle before turning to Peter, who stood in silence beside you. “What did you do this time, Spider-Man?”
As someone who was used to working alongside your world’s Spider-Man, and as someone used to wearing the mask yourself, you knew how to read expressions without the help of facial features. The way Peter’s body stiffened slightly along with the dip of his head told you a million words without him having to say any.
The way Strange said ‘Spider-Man’ must’ve hit a nerve. You guessed this was one of the people that had to forget about Peter.
You wonder if they were close.
And you wonder how many others this Peter lost in this way.
But you didn’t wonder anything else for too much longer before deciding to step it. “Uh, sorry, Mr. Strange?”
“It’s Doctor.” The sorcerer said as he turned his attention to you.
“Right.” You muttered. “Doctor Strange, Spider-Man here didn’t do anything. I just kinda...showed up here? And he told me what happened and I should’ve just...popped back home by now” You began to lamely explain your situation, hands flying wildly around while doing so. “But obviously, I didn’t and...” You sighed, trying to collect yourself. “Look, I just wanna get back home. That’s it.”
Strange looked at you for a moment before nodding. “Okay.” He relented. “First things first, I need to know what Earth you’re from. You don’t happen to know do you?”
He watched you tilt your head as one of your masks lenses squinted slightly. “Uhhh”
“Yeah, that’s a no.” He quickly intervened. “I’ll figure it out, but it could take a bit. Could you...?” He raised his hand above his head, gesturing for you to take your mask off. You hesitated briefly before remembering that you had no reason to conceal your identity in this world, so you pulled it off. “Thank you.” He said as he reached over to you, and before you knew it, you felt a quick pinch on your head.
“Ow! Hey!”
“Sorry about that.” The sorcerer halfheartedly apologized as he started messing with the hair he plucked. “I need DNA to get a sense of origin, once I figure out where that is, then we can work on getting you back. For the time being though, make yourself comfortable....” He trailed off, silently asking your name.
“Oh, Y/n. Y/n L/n.”
Strange gave a curt nod at the introduction. “It’s a pleasure Ms. L/n. Anyway, like I said, this could take a bit, so” He turned his attention to the group of people behind you, nodding towards the direction of one in particular. “This is America Chavez. She’ll show you around. I’ll come get you both when I have some answers.” You turned towards where he nodded and saw a young girl, even younger than Peter walking towards you with a smile. You smiled politely and waved back.
“I, uh, should actually get back.” You heard Peter pipe up beside you. “I got...y’know friendly neighborhood stuff to do.”
You couldn’t help but chuckle at the reasoning. “Good to see some things aren’t different between universes.” You held your hand out, which he took. “Thanks for helping me out.” You smiled.
“Yeah, of course.” He nodded. “I’ll see you around?”
“Once they invent the multiversal phone plan, I’ll tell you all about how my powers work.” Peter laughed at your joke before turning to wave goodbye to Strange, who only gave him a curt nod. 
His head hung slightly in disappointment again before Wong opened a portal back to the Sanctum. You gave him a sympathetic nod, silently telling him he’ll be okay. He nodded back before stepping through.
A moment of silence passed over the room after the portal closed. America looked around at the faces around her and figured she’d have to be the one to speak up.
“So, how about that tour?”
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“Lost in the multiverse, huh?” The young girl next to you piped up as you walked through the, seemingly neverending, halls of Kamar Taj.
You nodded. “Looks like it.”
“Yeah, been there, done that.” America said as if it was nothing, which caused you to look to her in surprise.
“Really? How?”
“Well, I...” She trailed off, trying to think of what to say. “I- It’s complicated. Basically, I can travel the multiverse, that’s my power.” 
“Whoa!” You exclaimed, genuinely impressed by this. After the initial reaction wore off though, you thought for a moment. Having a power like that sounds like a lot to handle, especially for a kid. “That...actually sounds like a lot.”
“Oh, it is.” You chuckled at how fast America agreed. “Not being able to control it is actually how I ended up lost in the multiverse.”
“Oh...” You said simply, not sure what else to say to that.
“Yeah, but it’s all good now.”
“So, how did you end up getting back home?”
America paused for a moment. “Well...I never did actually.”
You rose you brows at this. If this girl had the power to travel universes at will, why couldn’t she just go back home? Why couldn’t she just get you home for that matter? You figured there was a story there, but you didn’t know the girl well enough to pry into it. Luckily for you though, she continued before you could even utter a word. “But, I have a home here. Home is what you make it, y’know? Found family and all that.”
You gave her a small smile. “You've got to be the most optimistic 13 year old I’ve ever met.”
“Hey, I’m 14! Almost 15, thank you very much.” She exclaimed in mock offence, causing you to laugh and raise your hands in mock surrender. 
“Right, sorry my bad.” You said jokingly as you two continued your walk. “Where to now, your majesty?”
“You’re hilarious.” She waved you off as she looked around, trying to figure out her next move. “I always get lost around here...” She hummed, looking at the different paths in front of her. “Let’s just go this way.” She pointed to the right and started walking, you shrugged and followed her.
“What’s down here?”
“Just more magical artifacts it looks like.”
“So like 95% of this place?”
“Exactly.” She chuckled. “I’ve only been down here a few times though, so I don’t- oh.” She cut herself off as she stopped suddenly. You stopped with her, confused at her actions.
“What’s up?” America didn’t answer you, instead just staring ahead with an indecipherable expression on her face. You looked in the same direction, brows raising at what you saw.
There against the wall was what you could only describe as a makeshift prison cell. There was a translucent yellow wall, which you assume is some kind of magic, and inside looked to be some a bed, a tv, some chairs and a bookshelf. Honestly, if it wasn’t for the way the woman inside looked, you would assume it was just a normal bedroom.
Said woman sat on the edge of the bed, hunched over slightly, staring at the floor, almost burning a hole in it. Her ankles and wrists were all individually cuffed in some kind of mystical braces that looked straight out of the year 1635. She was dressed similarly to the other sorcerers you’ve seen around Kamar Taj, but you got the feeling she wasn’t among them.
You figured she sense your presence as she sat up slightly and turned her head. America kept staring at her as the woman’s face shifted slightly. Her face went from being blank to...shyness almost? Guilt? You couldn’t tell. She raised an arm and gave the girl a small wave, one that was only reciprocated with a small nod. The woman’s eyes then moved towards you and you froze as your eyes locked.
The woman’s wave paused in midair, her eyes started to scan you. You were new here, dressed similarly to what she remembered Spider-Man to dress like, but she’s never met you before. Who were you? And more importantly, what were you doing here? Were you here for her? Were you a new Avenger that the government sent over to come collect her? Would make sense. The Avengers that she knew, the ones still alive or in this time anyway, were probably too ashamed and disgusted to even want to look at her.
You couldn’t even begin to form your own thoughts as you felt America’s hand wrap around your wrist, taking you away and leading you back towards the direction you came from. After walking for a minute, you spoke up. “Who was that?”
“That’s Wanda. Otherwise known as The Scarlet Witch.”
Your face snapped from awe to utter disbelief. “The who what?”
America chuckled at your reaction. “I’m guessing you don’t have her where you’re from.”
“Not that I know of, no.” As you continued walking, you glanced back towards where the woman- Wanda was being held. “Why is she down here in a cell?”
America let out a harsh breath at that. “Between attacking Kamar Taj and killing a bunch of sorcerers, trying to kill me to steal my power to travel the multiverse to be with her kids that never existed here, and dreamwalking to another reality and killing a bunch of their superheroes, take your pick.”
Your eyes widened in surprise. You definitely weren’t expecting all that. You glanced back again. “Oh. Uh... her?” The woman in that cell looked harmless, it was surprising to think she was capable of all that. But, you guess looks could be deceiving.
“Yeah. She’s dangerous.”
“That’s putting it lightly.”
“But...it’s not as simple as ‘she’s an evil murderer’. She wasn’t entirely herself. Again, complicated.”
“Huh.” Was all you could think of to say. This place was weird you officially decided.
You shook your head as you continued forward. You only got a few more steps in before you felt that familiar tingle go off. Your Spider Sense.
You put stopped and put an arm in front of America, causing her to stop as well. Before she could ask what was going on, a figure suddenly appeared in front of you.
America faltered slightly, but just sighed in annoyance. This apparently wasn’t the first time Strange did something like this to here. After it moment, it clicked for her that you must’ve sensed that coming. “Whoa, how did you-”
You cut her off with a simple smirk and point to the head, giving no further explanation. You turned to the sorcerer in front of you, who looked a lot different than what you remembered him to be. Before he seemed cocky and arrogant, but now he seemed almost worried. Dare you say sad.
“Everything okay?” You asked. He turned to you and simply stared for a moment before taking a breath, preparing himself.
You already knew this couldn’t be good.
“Y/n...” He started, trying to collect himself. “I’m sorry, but there’s no easy way to say this.”
Now you’ve dealt with a lot in your life, between the death of your father to radioactive spider bites, to evil relatives and friends that tried to kill you, you thought that at this point you could handle anything. Boy were you wrong.
“Your home, Earth 1610, was caught in an incursion. Which, to put it simply...it was destroyed. It no longer exists.”
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indominusavenger · 3 months
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I'm gonna come out and say it; No Way Home sucked. Sure, it had some good moments but in my opinion, it does not live up to the first two instalments of the trilogy. I liked the first part of the movie but as soon as I knew where the second part was going, I fell off that train pretty quickly.
Not only did it make MCU Spidey end up with the same tale as his two predecessors but it also undoes Peter's entire establishment in Marvel's overall franchise. What was the point of the last four movies putting him on the roster with Earth's MIGHTIEST Heroes if you were just going take all that away and make it like he exists in a completely separate world from them? What was the point of the three cameos we had from RDJ, Samuel L. Jackson, and Benedict Cumberbatch in their iconic roles to show that interconnected universe as with every other MCU movie, only for that to be stripped away at the very last second? Might as well have been another one of Sony's solo ventures at making a series after TASM but it's not and that's why I HATE the uncertainty of Peter Parker's future in the MCU. However, given the current failing reality of the MCU with every new movie that comes out, I can already confirm it's nothing good. In fact, it probably would be best if progress stops altogether before Marvel really is stuck in the dust and just a part of a magnificent past with no legacy to carry on. (This is a side note but that is still a big issue for me anyways that I may expand upon later in another post. In the meantime, go watch all the video essays on YouTube, I'm sure you'll find many good ones.)
He had a unique story that fit into the overarching plot of the MCU and the premise he had was different from the previous Spideys which is what was so interesting about his character development. This Peter Parker had friends that weren't introduced before, or at least, they were more developed than in other series; he had a superhero as a mentor, not a scientist turned villain due to unfortunate circumstances; he had a guy in the chair who wasn't after him or turned villain because his father was one, he had two crushes that were friends, he was part of clubs and acted more teenage-like than the last two. He interacts with other heroes, joins the Avengers, fights THE villain, perishes, comes back, loses his mentor, and is still expected to keep on going.
For crying out loud, he was asked if he was going to be the next Iron Man but he knew he wasn't which is what Far From Home set out to show us. And to all those who called him Iron Man Jr. in Homecoming, I hope you know that you make no sense and I think Marvel did a wonderful job making him stand apart. He was a kid admiring one of his role models and now that he actually had a connection to him, of course he was going to want to be like his mentor but even Tony recognized that he wanted him to be more, not like him. This shows Iron Man himself had great respect for the young hero.
Now, moving onto No Way Home, two main things that annoy the heck out of me; Peter being forgotten (obviously) and Aunt May dying. I'll start with Aunt May's death. To be honest, it was a completely unnecessary death and it actually doesn't make sense for the purpose it had in the movie. The punchline "With great power comes great responsibility." loses its premise as soon as you recall Civil War's intro to Peter in the first place. Uncle Ben had already died, Peter was Spider-Man at this point, and remember what Peter told Tony when they met, why the older hero related to him so much? "When you can do the things that I can, but you don't... and then the bad things happen... they happen because of you." So he already learned that lesson on responsibility and by the time we get to No Way Home, this kid had learned lessons also involving the universe at large. Why are we rehashing Uncle Ben's offscreen death with Aunt May if Marvel literally stated that was overdone? Make that make sense. But oh, it was to make something big and dramatic happen in the movie because we needed to mOve aLoNg. Peter lost his parents, his uncle, and mentor; can you come up with something new other than parental figure losses? Why do TASM Peter and OG Peter still have their Aunt Mays and even if it was just a deleted scene, technically TASM Peter's dad? Huh, then what do you say there? Why did MCU Peter Parker have to lose ALL his parental figures?
Finally, the thing that probably broke most of us; Peter being wiped from everyone's memory. As I stated earlier, his entire existence within the MCU just vanishes, like that, in seconds. So......... what was the point of his existence up till now in the MCU? What was the point of his specific development and growth if he was just going to get forgotten? Why was he meticulously introduced at the height of the Avengers' conflict and then constantly involved with some other MCU hero/important character if he was going to be removed from that? If the Avengers were never a big deal, why make him a part of that at all and why were we still bringing them up at the climax of the film? For those who bring up the argument that he's supposed to be a solitary hero, well that was the worst way to have introduced him then, right? But Marvel chose that route, not any other. Which is why that decision still makes no sense to me. You put him in a world where he wasn't the only superhero and he was going to interact with other heroes which none of the other Spider-Men had and that already put him in a unique position. Why give him a background that was going to get swiped?
Imagine that, making five blockbuster films that gave him a firm standing in the MCU at the peak of Phase 3 and then in his sixth film, his last standalone which is supposed to be his most shining moment, he gets the rug pulled out from underneath him to give him a blank slate? You might as well have thrown every script out from 2015 to 2019 including him before they were ever written or considered. It's the equivalent of undoing everything you just worked on in a school project that's worth 40% of your final grade. Think about that for a second. Marvel just undid 6 years of work and investment in a single character for them to go back to the beginning. Why didn't you just do that then from the start? You could have had more classic Spidey a long time ago by that train of thought (which I really didn't want because we already saw that twice and this Spidey was something fresh).
Anyways, thanks for reading. This is 2 years worth of disappointment and frustration put on the page.
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So I'm actually very glad you came back, among many others I'm sure :D Esepecially because I recently saw a post by Sineala stating the difference between 616 vs MCU Steve and Tony, and she said people should ask someone else if they wanted to know about the MCU. So, I really wanted to ask you from your perspective what you think the difference is, because you seem to like MCU the most! This is the post.
sineala(.)tumblr(.)com/post/172540509139/whats-the-difference-between-tony-and-steve-from
Thank you and welcome back :DDD
oohh i know that post and i love that post 🤗 i learn so much about 616 from sineala, her fic and meta are more sacred to me than comic canon i'm so serious about that
i feel like i read the comics very chaotically and so most of my limited firsthand knowledge is very.. incidental. but if you're looking for someone who has spent too much of her time obsessing about every stevetony related detail in the mcu i am your girl <3
mcu steve makes me go *heart eyes* because even though he's very fighty and very stubborn (the core steve rogers traits across the multiverse), i think as a generalisation mcu steve is sadder and 616 steve tends to be angrier?? in my opinion he's gentler, quieter, more reserved and measured and forgiving than his 616 counterpart and that's one of the reasons he's so attractive to me because i think he's actually so soft!!
also- mcu steve did the best with the hand he was dealt but he did not at all have the support system that 616 steve when he came out of the ice :'( in the comics the avengers are the ones who find steve, but in the movies it's a group of shield agents who get a call from an oil team. the first thing that happens to mcu steve when he wakes up is that he gets lied to (shield puts him in that fake hospital room and tries to convince him it's still the 1940s to ""ease him in""), and then between waking up in 2011 and meeting the avengers in 2012, he's completely alone. there's an amazing deleted scene from a1 that shows steve wandering around new york by himself and his loneliness is palpable
i think this also relates to their ideas of home in the 21st century. 616 steve seems very sure about the fact that tony gave him a home, his home is with tony and the avengers, but mcu steve spends a long time searching for a place to call home. even in catws, when he's been in the 21st century for 3 years, he still has books stacked on the floor of his apartment and paintings he hasn't hung up yet. a year later in aou, sam asks if he's found a place in brooklyn yet, and steve says he doesn't think he could afford a place in brooklyn, and sam says "home is home" and steve sort of just stops smiling and goes quiet and looks away. the only place he calls home in the movies is avengers compound, once in aou when tony asks if he's alright and steve says "i'm home" and once in infinity war when sam asks where they're going and steve says "home" (referring again to the compound). and when the compound gets blown to bits in endgame, even that's gone
on the other hand mcu tony seems more well adjusted than 616 tony and that felt like a deliberate choice based on the scenes that didn't make it into the movie. for example ,there's a deleted scene from im1 where pepper finds tony on the floor the morning after a party, drinking in his iron man suit and he's bleeding and there's a wisp of smoke coming from his armour and he is clearly not doing well, and an alternative opening scene for im2 that they didn't use where tony is vomiting and altogether freaking out a little bit before the stark expo
tony's alcoholism and sobriety is an important part of his 616 character, and there's the birthday party scene in im2 where tony gets drunk to cope with the fact that he's dying, but other than that and mysterio casually calling tony a "boozy man-child" in spiderman ffh, it's not really part of his mcu character
there's also the childhood trauma he has from howard, 616 howard was horribly abusive!!!!! a lot of people dislike mcu howard for not showing tony affection growing up etc, but the mcu portrays that father-son relationship in a more complicated light so you do see people split over tony forgiving him in the end. for example tony invents the new element in im2 with the help of howard's old tapes and notes and goes "dead for almost 20 years and still taking me to school," tony tells steve "my father made that shield" "he made it for you," and there's the full on reconciliation scene tony has with howard in endgame (also we get to see young howard stark in catfa and agent carter and he is honestly so likeable there, which still confuses me to this day but anyway)
and in the comics tony sees himself as more separate from iron man, hence the secret identity, and it feels like he sees iron man as his repentance and as having only his good qualities, someone he wishes he could be? but they tossed that right out at the end of im1 when tony literally says "i am iron man," which was a very clear rejection of the identity-crisis component of his 616 character, and they drive it home again when it's his last line in endgame. i think mcu tony sees iron man as an almost inextricable part of himself which i really love about him, and it makes sense because 616 tony hates himself so much more than mcu tony does ;_;
in terms of steve and tony's relationship, they have such a long history of friendship in the comics which makes the civil war arc hurt more but i feel like they always have that friendship as a bedrock to keep building and rebuilding their relationship on, whereas in the mcu they get off on the wrong foot and tiptoe around a very fragile relationship/disproportionately deep feelings for a few years but don't trust each other enough for a long time and that's the reason their civil war happens, and it's only at the end of their canon that they resolve it and really come together
there's also the romantic relationships- they both have several significant love interests in the comics but just one true love in the movies, it's always been peggy for steve and pepper for tony, but i think that's more due to the nature of the mcu being one movie canon and 616 spanning so many more years and going through so many more writers
now i'm just rambling but they shifted a lot of the characters around in steve's life as well, like the role sharon plays in the comics is diluted in the movies and peggy and natasha are the two most important women in his life instead because they're the ones who give him that support and guidance. also mcu stevebucky doesn't really exist in the same way in the comics because they didn't grow up childhood friends with bucky being protective over steve, they met in the military and bucky is a few years younger than steve in the comics, so steve was a mentor to him
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Since we kinda know each other a lil bit I am brave enough to ask....what's the appeal of Cap/Tony to you? I know a tooooon of people ship this and I never really got the appeal (but I would love to get it this is not a AND HERE IS HOW YOU'RE WRONG question I am genuinely asking...)
Ooooooooh. I am actually thrilled about you asking me this because Cap/Tony is one of my oldest and pretty much the most beloved OTPs of all time <3
I got into Marvel during the waiting period for the 2012 Avengers movie. Cap and Tony hadn't even met onscreen yet, so what I did, like most people back during that time, was: I turned to the comics. And in the comics ... well. Their friendship has been established over decades of various comic arcs.
They're pretty much like yin and yang, opposites that complement each other, past vs. future, idealist vs. cynic, the team parents, soulmates friends that will find each other in every universe and just need to be at each others side. They banter a lot (which can sometimes come off as flirty, especially from Tony's side), they have nicknames for each other (winghead and shellhead).
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Especially Tony grew up idolizing Captain America and describes finding him frozen in a block of ice as the greatest day of his life. (I think he canonically has a room full of Cap memorabilia and merch but I can't find the scans to back that up right now.) He once opened his faceplate surrounded by toxic gas to give Steve mouth to mouth/CPR, because he thought keeping Steve alive was more important than his own life (x).
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Things Tony once said to or about Steve:
I'm not half as good at anything as when I'm doing it next to you.
you were my rudder, steering me when others couldn’t
I miss your battle cry
And then there was Civil War. It was a huge event in the comics that had an impact on pretty much everything and Steve and Tony were the heart of that dispute. See, that conflict was mostly shoehorned and silly, but it was an angsty gold mine for shippers. A lot of what happened hit so hard because Steve and Tony had such a special and deep friendship. And then, in the aftermath of Civil War, Steve gets shot and dies. Tony, feeling partly responsible for what happened, completely loses it. He's supposed to hold a speech at Steve's funeral, but he breaks down crying in front of everyone before he can finish it. In one of the spin-off comics you can see Tony sitting beside Cap's dead body, pouring his heart out. And Tony, having played the villain throughout the entire Civil War, having betrayed and lost friends because he fought for what he thought was right (something he learned from Cap!), bitterly admits: "It wasn't worth it." (This is a callback to when Steve angrily asked him "was it worth it?" - Tony didn't have an answer back then.) (x)
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Fun Fact! In one of the multiverses, Civil War canonically gets resolved because Tony is a woman and marries Steve:
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Movie!Cap and movie!Tony had a very different dynamic. They were more of a enemies/rivals to friends (to lovers) kind of thing - which is also fun! - but A Lot of aforementioned comic canon bled over to how I and many over fans depicted/interpreted them. And that was a lot of fun, for a while. Except over time and with every new movie that go released, it got clear that the MCU had no interest in actually making them and showing them be friends. They were begrudging co-workers at most (and not just Tony and Steve, the whole team besides Tasha and Clint were rarely shown to have meaningful interactions) and that took away a lot of the impact of Captain America: Civil War.
So yeah. It's this deep and meaningful friendship that draws me to Steve and Tony. I still ship them in the MCU, but it certainly got soured a little by what the movies did (or didn't do) with their friendship.
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ooooh I'd love to hear your thoughts about bruce & steve!!!! even if they're rambly lol i love how they're the unlikely introverts of the og6 and how they're somehow connected through the serum! i also really love their first meeting and how respectful steve is about not caring about the hulk!! (i LOVE tony but everytime someone is like "tony was the first one to be friendly to bruce" im like but what about steve!!!!)
AHHH! You have given me the gift of a lifetime. I will absolutely take this opportunity to ramble about Bruce and Steve and everything I think about them before I hit talk fatigue. Please walk with me slowly here because I'm afraid I'm not gonna make a lick of sense 😭 I almost feel like I should rewatch The Avengers and The Hulk movies before typing this...I might...LONG POST!
Ok so Bruce's whole life was consumed by the serum right? He must know every goddamn thing there is to know about Steve, physically at least. In fact, I'd go as far to say that Steve was little more than a subject, a project to him before they met (and maybe Bruce still secretly saw Steve as a something rather than a person before he took time to know him). And you can't fully blame him for seeing Steve that way cause Steve was dead when Bruce was trying to recreate the serum. All this to say that Bruce spent a lot of fucking time studying Steve Rogers and imagine his....awe and fascination when the main subject of his research was right before him. I could imagine Bruce staring at Steve, cataloging every shift he makes. The peak of his life's work - the only success story of the serum that ruined his life, finally reachable. Bruce might even feel...not bitter, but melancholy mixed with his fascination.
I actually took the time to rewatch The Incredible Hulk just now and poor Bruce omg :/ It makes what you said about Steve and Bruce's first meeting even more heartwarming. Steve immediately saying that he doesn't care about the fear surrounding Hulk and whatnot and he MEANS it.
"Word is you can find the cube."
"Is that the only word about me?"
"Only word I care about."
FIRST meeting! And yknow one thing that gets me heated is how some fans will say "Oh but Steve was scared of the Hulk when Tony was poking him yadda yadda" - Nope! Or at least not really. At this point, Steve's only interactions with Tony were being needled and mocked by him. It seemed to me (even on my first watch!) that Steve genuinely thought Tony was bothering Bruce, being mean or - God forbid - being a BULLY. And you know that's Steve's trigger word. Of course he's finna say something. Not to mention he was already irritated with the whole Tesseract mess.
I think Bruce is mostly curious about Steve('s body) at first. About the blood running through his veins. About how the key to unlocking human invulnerability lies within him. Must be a heady feeling. Kind of erotic (but not necessarily sexual if that makes sense).
I can imagine that Steve would be uncomfortable with this knowledge at first, knowing that Bruce is a product of attempted recreation. I think Steve in general is just very upset with what the serum's legacy has produced since he went in the ice and so having an outcome right in front of him, as a teammate, is something that can be hard to face. Up till then, the only "failed" subject for the serum he's encountered was the Red Skull and we all know how that turned out. Overall, I think Steve wants people to stop messing with things beyond their control especially when they're trying to weaponize it. That's why he's so pissed with the Tesseract situation in AV1. Despite this, Steve clearly doesn't hold it against Bruce. He also knows the truth about what happened in Harlem (as opposed to what the WSC said), else he wouldn't be open to working with him. Steve, if anything, would want to grow closer to him, maybe. Knowing how the whole world shuts him out at first glance because they're terrified of the Hulk would drive Steve to do the exact opposite.
Also, let's get into Bruce's morality. Anti-military, wanted to avoid all use of the Hulk if necessary - but he knows its going to be necessary at some point. And he probably dreads the day that Steve calls him up to the plate to unleash the Hulk in combat. Steve got Hulk's cooperation on day ONE. Hulk trusts Steve from the get go which is kind of insane! But Bruce knows that on any given day, Steve is going to choose the lives of citizens over Bruce's desire to never use the Hulk. He doesn't resent Steve for it (maybe a little, but not a hateful resentment) but he knows.
Just now realizing this far in that I'm talking about a version of Bruce that isn't really present in the MCU tbh. I mostly take my Bruce characterization from The Incredible Hulk and Avengers 1 and that's it 🥴. I feel like they didn't really know what to do with his character...or didn't want to fully explore his psyche properly. But that's a different topic.
Anyways, some of my all time favorite Bruce characterization comes from an ao3 author named lettered. They wrote "Let's Stop The Time Warp (Again)" and "The Hollow Men" which are both stellar if you want to read Bruce and Steve in such real ways.
Whew...re-reading this post....just as I thought, barely coherent but this won't be the only time I talk about these two - hopefully next time I'll have proper words to say! Thanks for giving me a chance to spew my Bruce/Steve thoughts out like this! ♡
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(Spoiler for Dahmer – Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story — up until episode 7, also there’s a bit of a rant)
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Disclaimer: Just to let you know that I’m not one of those fangirls that falls in love with serial killers, this is just me simply commenting on a part of the movie. This does not mean that I condone anything that he had done or even justifying what he did. I’m just a normal guy that is very honest about my opinions and just wanted to express that.
I do give my condolences to the families and friends of victims that are affected by Jeffrey Dahmer though.
Update: I just found out that the part that I spoke about with Tony and Jeffrey didn’t actually happen. He basically lured him into his house like literally every other victims. It’s quite sad that Netflix would make a movie out of something that real and is still affecting families and would get some details wrong. I could see why they changed it slightly for the dramatic effects, but this shouldn’t be taken lightly as it should.
Although I am upset that Netflix would do such a thing and not even at least fact check, I will keep my vent up since I did wanted to let it out. Also, I do wanted to make people not feel alone in this since I also really liked them together.
Please note that I didn’t make this post out of disrespect since this is me reacting to a movie adaptation that I watched. Any misinformation, I will address.
I can’t be the only one that shipped Jeffrey and Tony together. It had seemed as if he found someone that understands him and would do the same back.
I even loved how when they saw each other they would literally hugged and then their little moments on that date. They were smiling and giggling at each other. I really thought this was when we could finally see that he could find this “missing person” that makes him feel like someone after going through a lot of trauma growing up, especially with the fact that he has been an outcast from his high school class where people would bully him so much that they would literally scribble him out of the yearbook.
Even the part where he didn’t ended up drugging him, I thought that was when he finally realised that he did found this person he was looking for all these years and that he could finally change it up. Or even if he doesn’t change, he could still be partners in crime as they would lure more victims in for threesomes or orgies and then drug them before killing them or something. At this point, I didn’t care. As long as Tony would be alive and be Jeffrey’s boyfriend, that was all I ever wanted, and I’d be so glad to hear that.
Sadly, his anger and detachment issues got the best of him as he still couldn’t get the hint that people has lives and needed to work, so he just murdered him just like that.
The moment I found out that Tony died, my heart sank. This was his best match and all of his interactions with the man was nothing but positive and full of genuine chemistry. I even had to awe so loudly when he kissed him on the cheek or when he managed to get his signs right. I was literally rooting for him, like a cheerleader. I was so glad he was able to have those feelings for him and to even have him decide last minute not to poison his drink like he would always do to his victims. I was so happy for Jeffrey and the fact that he could had possibly found his first actual boyfriend.
I’m still sad as I lay in my room thinking about the events that could occur if he never killed him. You know, like more dates such as a walk in the park with Jeffrey holding a camera so they could take pictures since Tony wanted to be a model, or even a road trip or something. Or even them getting married after gay marriage has finally be legalised where they live. I wanted to see them grow old together and maybe even spend the rest of their lives until they died. Even if they do go behind bars due to murder or anything, I’d still be glad because they would always have each other regardless.
Man… if only he knew that people go to work, just like how he did. However, they would still love him just as much. This guy is so fucked up in the head that he was blinded by his own ignorance. Tony loves him, and he knows that. He just needed to go to work because he needs to get money for himself, just like the fact that he needed to get money just to find an apartment that he could afford. Why can’t he just understand such thing?
Tony really didn’t deserve that treatment from Jeffrey. He gave so much love to him that it even touched his heart and yet he still killed him. All just because he works and took that to heart. The man even had to reassure him that just because he’s not with him doesn’t mean he doesn’t love him. Bless his heart. He died trying to explain to his possibly love of his life that he still loves him even though he’s not with him.
I still cry every time I imagine that scene when he confessed. He’s really a sick man that killed someone as innocent as Tony. I know this is a show, but this is based in real life experiences. I’m still upset now, but I know he’s in a good place somewhere. Jeffrey deserves someone, but not Tony. In fact, it should be nobody at all that would give him that kind of love and then get death returned to them.
Rest in peace, Tony.
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I'm thinking about civil war again. Let's ramble about it.
Disclaimer: I haven't seen this movie in 4 years and I refuse to do so because it will break my soul. But. But.
I think we're wrong to see only two teams in a conflict about the accords, Tony vs Steve. There are three: Tony, Steve, and The Government(/The System/The Man/Ross/whatever). And this triangle isn't equilateral.
The Accords were given to them from the outside source, with Ross being the harbinger, and they can't actually refuse them. There's no working world where people have this kind of power and no control from any of the governmental structures without being called criminals, but the governmental control usually Sucks Ass, so — logically — both sides of Steve/Tony argument make sense. I mean, read about the social contract and everything those old dead white men argued about — the problem of the human rights vs the governmental oversight is a real life world argument old enough for us all to be sick about it, and while mcu simplify it extremely (as they love to do), the basics still apply. Total anarchy doesn't work, an authoritarian government doesn't work, you need to find another solution to make it work.
And they could have, but here's when the personal stuff comes in.
Steve doesn't truly get the need for the Accords, and that is rooted in his own experience — he never truly felt The Guilt before this movie. Some guilt, yes, compassion, yes, but it was never tied up to his identity. He was always trying to do the right thing, he succeeded in all his personal battles, and while yes, there was collateral damage, there's still a knowledge in him that he did everything he could — because he did, because it mostly worked. He was formed and bred as a hero by the army, he accepts the fact that sometimes death is inevitable (Is this the first time you've lost a soldier?). And he has an objectively amazing ability to stay his ground and change the narrative around him until he gets what he wants just by the power of his will. Bucky is captured? He goes on his own and saves him. He leads the commandoes to the war and he goes to the front door and he doesn't care about the enemy: he just does it, straightforward. He's not used to failing, to compromise, because he never needed it, because before his will and righteousness were strong enough to bend reality and get him his win. 
So, two points: 1) Steve doesn't get the need to yield and compromise, and 2) Steve doesn't get the Guilt and the constant uncertainty about whether am I doing the right thing.
On the other hand, there's Tony and Natasha — the loudest voices of the pro-accords team — who Get It. Tony's whole motivation is this guilt, he sees iron man as an impossible penance. And obviously — I think I would just cut the wire — he knows about compromises and hard decisions. His MO is to find some tricky solution that will save everyone, and fix everything. And Nat's the same in this.
The tragedy is — their only way to get out of it is to be united, both Steve & Tony vs The System, because Tony sees the Accords' necessity and can work with them, but he needs Steve's uncompromising will to stand his ground, to argue every fucked up rights violation. But they lose — both of them lose before Zemo, even — because they can't fucking talk to each other.
But, I think, this is also the moment where healing can begin. Because the Accords argument? After cw Steve can finally understand it, because he's finally in a situation where he made the wrong choice and Fucked Up Real Bad (and, also, going by this logic, Bucky would be pro-accords, because of The Guilt and the need to have a failsafe for when he can't control himself, so with Bucky the whole dynamics of team cap in the accords argument change).
While, you know, Tony has his own guilty freak out about the secret prison and how can he fix the government fucking up everything with its power grab wishes.
Which would make for really cool character development for everyone. Just imagine the payoff. 
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Movie Review | Monster Hunter (Anderson, 2020)
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Maybe I was more tired than I realized watching this, or maybe I'm just getting dumber and reacting to movies on the level of pure sensation than actually trying to keep track of narrative elements, but I had a weirdly difficult time following along with this. I won't rule out those first two reasons, but I also found this awkwardly paced. One can charitably describe this as "lean", in that we're basically hit with incident after ostensibly exciting incident, and it's refreshing when a movie isn't bogged down in exposition, especially for potential future sequels (although this annoyingly ends with a cliffhanger and post-credits scene). But I still expect a movie to set things up and sell us on the significance of certain developments. Perhaps I was too zoned out to notice all the intricate groundwork this might have been laying, but it seemed that every few minutes we were getting hit with a new monster that it never bothered to set up, rushing through the confrontation so as to undermine any awe the monster might inspire, and the racing along to the next action scene. There's no breathing room, no moments to sit back and savour what the movie's serving.
I also think some of that lack of awe stems from the visuals, largely the 2.35:1 aspect ratio, which often suggests grandeur when deployed in the more tactile epics of yore, but feels claustrophobic here, undercutting any real grasp of the monsters' size. And while I understand there was actual location shooting, the CGI-assisted cinematography renders everything plastic in a way I often found unpleasant to look at. Paul W.S. Anderson is a director I've been unable to fully embrace, and I don't think this makes a particularly good case for him. His affinity for clean geometric compositions clashes with the desert setting, as whatever order he finds in the manufactured interiors of his Resident Evil movies is totally absent here, and the plain desert landscape leaves a dearth of interesting things in the frame to look at. And while the action is less incoherent than in the last Resident Evil movie, the cutting is still too frantic to let any of the juicier images breathe. I will at least say that the confrontations here at least seem free of the inconsequential back-and-forths and arbitrary denouements of his fight scenes elsewhere. And there are individual images, like the shells piling up as the heroine fires a machine gun, or the part where she whips out a rocket launcher, that made a direct appeal to my inner fifteen-year-old, the dork who saw the end of the first Resident Evil when the heroine pumped a shotgun and the camera pulled back and thought it was the coolest shit ever (but then waited over a decade to watch the whole movie for fear that the movie would actually be lame, which sadly turned out to be the case).
Despite the fact that production was completed prior to the pandemic, this definitely feels like a pandemic-era "blockbuster" with its small, weirdly insular and artificial world, but I suppose Anderson's movies have always been modestly scaled and budgeted for special effects extravaganzas. I do wonder if my growing interest over the past few years in '90s studio vehicles has been a subconscious reaction to this, as those movies offer large casts, seemingly lived-in worlds and tactile pleasures. This one has a bunch of randos that it fails to define with any personality and throws in even more randos in the third act, although I did enjoy the chemistry between Milla Jovovich and Tony Jaa, who bring their own brands of charisma to the material, and for some reason there's an anthropomorphized cat not unlike the one in Dragon Ball Z, and I will never say no to Ron Perlman showing up at any stage in a movie.
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Essential Avengers: West Coast Avengers #12: THE ATTRACTION BETWEEN TWO BODIES!
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September, 1986
Zzzax!
Quantum!
Halflife!
TROUBLE!
Oh ho, ah ha! I see we’re still doing random super goons for the West Coast Avengers to fight.
I won’t lie, I kinda like it.
Considering the meta plot is ‘Tigra needs to kill Master Pandemonium so the cat king will make her less horny,’ this string of random tricky goobers for the team to fight is entertaining. The wheels sure are spinning on the meta plot but we’ve got some good, dumb fights. It feels like a throwback to the simpler storytelling of the silver age Avengers.
Meanwhile, Stern’s Avengers is killing it on the more serialized style.
I know Zzzax as ‘when an electricity guy is needed but Electro is busy’ but the other two are new to me. Although Quantum looks like he should fight Captain Mar-Vell. He has the look of the kind of guy Mar-Vell would punch.
Halflife is clearly a bride of Frankenstein.
So let’s get into it.
Last times in West Coast Avengers: The Thing almost joined the team but then didn’t. The team fought Griffin and Headlok. Then, Mockingbird and co went to visit Nick Fury so she could give her sympathies for the poor, maligned intelligence community which was even then being compromised as hell. Then the team fought Shockwave, Zaran the Weapons Master, and Razorfist. And now, this:
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I take back every nice thing I’ve ever said about Simon Williams.
That costume is an abomination.
The fact that the rest of the team repeatedly reassure him that it’s a great change proves that the West Coast Avengers have no taste whatsoever.
Shame on all of you.
Shame.
This isn’t a situation where I’m going to go ‘lol jk’ under the fold.
That costume bad.
Apparently one of the designers (costume designers? Set designers?) for Bladerunner (legally distinct from Blade Runner?) designed this outfit for Simon.
Bladerunner is probably a shit movie if this is what unnamed designer came up with.
I do like that Simon is just flaunting his Hollywood connections though. He wanted a new costume, he just went up to a guy who worked in movies and told him to design him one.
I hope you paid the man for his eyesore, Simon.
There’s some other bits that go in this discussion of his new costume.
Simon was letting his hair gray without much complaint. Now he’s dyeing it black again. He claims that his hair is prematurely gray because of that time he spent dead and anyway, he’s in movies now. Its an industry of vanity.
He also ditched the goggles or glasses because he’s not going to hide his eyes anymore.
Wonder Man: “I’m not Cyclops of the X-Men! The ionic energy in me isn’t dangerous! And once I decided to make that change, I figured -- why shouldn’t I look my age?”
... What IS your age though? You were the CEO of your own company before you drove it into the ground by being less good than Tony Stark and also embezzlement.
How old are you, Simon? How old are ANY of you??
Actually, my favorite part in this parade of bad taste is Tigra asking if moving the jets up to his shoulders will toast his buns.
Tigra: “But won’t the jet-flames shoot down your back and burn your, uh ---”
Wonder Man: “Not if your ‘uh’ is invulnerable!”
Fair point, fair point ipreferredthebeltjetspersonally but fair point.
Is the ass of your pants fire-proof?
I guess we’ll find out one way or another soon.
Mockingbird tells everyone to hold that thought and runs off.
Because Simon isn’t the only one that has a new costume to show off.
God. I don’t like, love, or tolerate Wonder Man’s new costume but I kinda love all these idiots just proudly showing off their fashion disasters to each other.
Anyway, Hawkeye points out that he and Mockingbird have been using the costumes they wore in New York but whoops New York climate is not L.A. climate.
So Hawkeye removed the sleeves from his costume to rock the sun’s out, guns out look.
Wonder Man: “Yes, and we’re glad you stopped there!”
Iron Man: “Just as we’re glad Tigra didn’t!”
Iron Man, please. If you make the West Coast Avengers need an HR department, you know its just going to be Hank Pym and that’s going to be awkward for everyone.
Also, I can’t prove it but I’m like 52% sure that somehow Wonder Man found out about that time Hawkeye’s costume had no pants and he’s been waiting to bust his chops about it.
Speaking of no pants,
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Mockingbird’s new costume doesn’t have any pants.
Her fighting style requires the long, wide sleeves, I think. So, yeah, off go the pants.
Also, she’s letting her hair grow out a little. The never ending drama of her haircut continues.
Iron Man refuses to change his armor because this is his new iconic armor dammit. This isn’t the modern age where he can just slap on a new suit every time there’s a new run. The Silver Centurion has to last a while!
Speaking of looks, Iron Man says changing the subject, Tigra has a magical amulet that lets her look like her old human self that she never uses.
Why is that?
Tigra, looking confused at the question: “Huh!”
It’s something she hasn’t thought about lately! She’s just super comfortable in her Tigra skin.
Wonder Man asks if she’s changing her mind on which of her two souls she’s going to keep.
Tigra: “Me? Don’t be silly! But with all this glorious sun, I can’t stop with uncovering just one part of my glorious bod! Might as well be comfortable, right? Changing my mind -- ? No... I’ve made my decision...”
Good for you, Tigra?
It might be an empowering affirmation but this book is gonna be a creep about it.
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Also, this creep is gonna be a creep about it.
Using mysterious superpowers to bend reflected light so you can creep from a distance is sure putting a lot of effort into being a creep, mysterious creep.
Mysterious creep is so horny that he decides “I can wait no longer! I must have her, and I must have her now! The plan begins at once!”
So, that’s going somewhere.
Back at the West Coast Avengers Compound, Mockingbird asks to speak to Tigra who agrees “just so long as we stay outdoors!”
Mockingbird reminds that Tigra asked her to help with her two-soul problem however long ago but recently she seems pretty contented sooooo....
Tigra yells at Mockingbird to get off her back about it.
Which is an interesting reaction considering Mockingbird hadn’t even gotten around to asking her question yet.
Tigra: “Everything’s okay with me, Mockingbird! The cat-people promised they’d cure me, no strings attached!”
And then she storms off.
Leaving Mockingbird suspicious that Tigra mentioned strings unprompted. Using her keen intelligence work training, she now suspects that Tigra isn’t telling them everything!
Very insightful, Bobbi.
But Tigra is sure that the Avengers may suspect that there is a string attached but they’ll never guess that she has to do a murder on Master Pandemonium.
Tigra: Not that killing a crook like Master Pandemonium is anything to be ashamed of -- he’s tried to kill us twice -- but they might not understand! They don’t share my sense of the hunt -- for prey, or for passion!
So Tigra goes to try to make out with Wonder Man.
Tigra: “Long time no petting, big man!”
Whoa!
Pretty forward!
But Wonder Man tells her that though he really enjoyed making out with her on the beach, there can be no more casual petting between them.
He thinks that he might have a chance with Christy, from the movie set. Since they’ve been working pretty closely.
And Wonder Man was under the impression that Tigra was with Hank...?
Tigra: “What about me and Hank? We’re not an item, if that’s what you mean!”
Wonder Man: “He thinks you are -- !”
Tigra: “Pfui on what he thinks! NOBODY OWNS ME!”
And she storms off again, yelling that women with glasses aren’t attractive.
It’s a matter of opinion, really.
So, Tigra finds Iron Man instead.
He wanted to relax in the sun as much as everyone else but the most he could muster is... just taking the helmet off.
I don’t remember whether Tony has a secret identity here or not. I know that Tigra knows who he is. And he was walking around with Hawkeye and Mockingbird out of costume so they could visit Fury.
Okay, so probably the team knows.
Don’t know why he’s only taking off his helmet. Because he says he wanted to duck into his personal bungalow so he could take off his helmet. Like he’s hiding his identity.
Whatever.
Anyway, Tigra tries to hit on him too.
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But despite all of Tony’s light inappropriate comments during his time on this team with Tigra, he was just being friendly.
Apparently Tony is one of those people who is just always flirty.
But he still feels too guilty over dating Jan after she divorced Hank. He could never do anything with Tigra while she’s with Hank or while Hank thinks she is (because of her making out with him). Especially when Hank is still messed up over losing his robot son.
Since Tony tried to soften the blow by saying he’d be all over Tigra if Hank weren’t involved, Tigra storms off to break up with Hank.
Geez.
She finds Hank inside the main compound building talking to Joachin, apparently the manager of the grounds crew.
Huh! The West Coast Avengers have a support staff!
Anyway, Tigra basically yells ‘beat it nerd!’ and Joachin excuses himself.
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Tigra doesn’t get the chance to give Hank a piece of her mind because Hank “aware of what women are thinking” Pym sees her mad face, assumes that it’s because he hasn’t been paying enough attention to her, and asks if she wants to kiss.
And she does.
Tigra: “Sure! Who could turn down a kiss...?”
Tigra, this is just kicking the problem down the road...
Anyway, IN SPACE
Near THE SUN
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That Quantum dude from the cover who looks like he should fight Captain Mar-Vell pops out of the Sun and heads for Earth.
In fairness, the Earth shot first.
He’s not the only introduction.
At Horesham Nuclear Plant, alarms suddenly go off, signaling a meltdown or maybe a meltout.
Does that make any sense? No? Too bad.
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The bride of Frankenstein like lady melts out of the reactor and kills the nuclear technicians with a touch as she strolls out of the plant.
As she’s on her way out, the high-voltage lines leading from the plant snap, revealing Zzzax, the man-shaped electromagnetic energy field. He was introduced in the Hulk book and has apparently died at the end of his every appearance.
Doesn’t seem to have slowed him down.
Anyway, he joins bride of Frankenstein (Halflife) and the two hike south towards Los Angeles.
Huh. Weird.
Seems like some kind of gathering of some kind of group.
But whyyyy?
Also, according to marvel wiki, this group is sometimes called Trouble, as on the cover, and that’s a stupendously stupid name.
Back at the West Coast Avengers Compound, Hank Pym briefs Hawkeye on his findings on the deed book that was mysteriously burned.
Annnd he doesn’t have a lot to report. There were heavy sulfur compounds and evidence of extremely high heat which didn’t singe the adjacent pages. So its obviously magic nonsense.
Hawkeye: “Sounds like Master Pandabear, all right!”
But Hank has some other ideas.
Since Master Pandemonium was a movie star, Wonder Man could ask around the studios to see if anyone knows anything. And Hank can pick up where Firebird left off and check with any local occult bookstores.
Business out of the way, Hawkeye asks how Hank and Tigra are doing.
Hank, a poor dolt, thinks things are going just great!
Unaware that elsewhere, Tigra is kicking herself “why do I melt any time any man wants me?”
Cat soul, probably.
Maybe you should see about having that looked at?
But she suddenly decides that she doesn’t care about self-control (which is saying no, self-control is saying that’s enough) and that when she kills Master P and gets one of her souls yanked out, she’s going to stick with being Tigra and just Tigra. Goodbye human worries and inhibitions.
And then while jumping around the trees, she comes up short and painfully bellyflops to the ground.
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Tigra, if you’re still alive, I want to ask what good is a cat soul if you can’t even reliably land on your feet?
... I’m pretty sure she’s still alive.
She has so many more degrading plot points to be part of.
=|
Anyway, Quantum appears above the city yelling in an alien language and blasting out heat.
The goofy bystanders guess that what he’s yelling is probably a challenge and probably for the (West Coast) Avengers since they’re the only superhero team “this so-called town’s got!”
Oh, and Zzzax and Halflife show up too.
Unlike Quantum, they can speak.
Zzzax apparently wants to eat the electrical energy in people! That’s distressing!
The LAPD calls the (West Coast) Avengers (and gets Hank since he answers the phones) because “this is what you’re supposed to be for!” and Hank summons the (West Coast) Avengers.
Tigra doesn’t show up, due to her probably non-fatal bellyflop but Hank says there’s no time to wait for her.
Hank Pym, non-superhero: “There are three major menaces on Sunset Boulevard!”
Iron Man: “Sounds like a set-up for a punchline -- but I still don’t know L.A. well enough to know what it is!”
... Hah.
Anyway, the West Coast Avengers minus Tigra pile into the Quinjet and about seven minutes later, Iron Man and Wonder Man are jumping out of the Quinjet over Sunset Boulevard.
Wonder Man: “Every time I go into action, I get to be a real, live Wonder Man! What could be better than that?”
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He punches Quantum and whoops now there’s lots of Quantum.
Wonder Man assumes that lots of Quantum won’t be strong but whoops, he made an ass out of him and him.
Iron Man: “I think that was the set-up to a punch line, Wondy!”
Wonder Man: “I know! I know!”
With Iron Man and Wonder Man dealing with excessive Quantums, Mockingbird squares up against Halflife (designated girl fight?) and Hawkeye against Zzzax.
In fairness to that last one, Hawkeye has fought and beat Zzzax before. He’s pretty sure he can beat him in no time flat just by shooting an arrow with a wire through him into a water source.
Except... Hawkeye doesn’t know where to find water in Los Angeles.
I think there’s an ocean somewhere westward. Does that help, Hawkeye?
Mockingbird similarly thinks she’ll be done with her opponent “this refugee from Frederick’s of Hollywood” pretty quickly and then she’ll come help Hawkeye find water.
Halflife: “Quiet, woman! Your raucous bravado disturbs the tranquility of -- Halflife!”
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Huh, so that’s what she do.
That answers one question about this bridge of Frankenstein. But her statement here raises more questions.
Why is she getting involved in superhero fights if she doesn’t like raucous bravado and would prefer the tranquility of living in a nuclear reactor? Also, why was she living in a nuclear reactor??
(For the tranquility, probably)
Anyway. She makes people age. Probably halves their life, if I had to guess.
A Quantum knocks Wonder Man to the road and Hawkeye asks if he’ll find (and break) a water main while he’s at it.
Wonder Man rips up a water main and sprays the water all over. Hawkeye shoots a wired arrow and shorts out Zzzax just like he said he would.
Wow, Zzzax lasted no time and got to do zero things.
That’s why when villains with a super easy way to beat them come back, they’ve usually made some personal changes so that super easy way doesn’t work anymore.
Otherwise you wind up like Zzzax here.
With Zzzax there taken care of, Hawkeye runs to help Mockingbird who has aged terribly but Iron Man lands between Halflife and Mockingbird and Hawkeye, figuring he’s better suited to take her on.
Halflife: “And you think Halflife cannot speed the process of decay within you, metal man? My touch takes you halfway to your death  -- and each subsequent touch takes you half the remaining distance!”
That makes me curious whether she can age Iron Man’s armor or not but probably not but it doesn’t matter, even touching Iron Man’s armor is aging the man inside.
Iron Man still has a point that he’s better suited to fight Halflife though because he can up the power of his armor to compensate as the man inside ages.
But he’s not actually... doing anything with keeping his power up. He’s not fighting back because he’s spending all his effort adjusting the armor’s power.
So now three Avengers are tied up with Halflife which is fairly non-ideal when the other villain in the fight is a lot of guys.
Wonder Man actually realizes this. That Quantum is strong and numerous but that Halflife is taking Avengers out of the fight.
So he just swoops down and whisks her away from his three teammates.
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She threatens that she’ll just age him the same she did his teammates but whoops. Can’t age energy.
Wonder Man: “I’m not flesh and blood! I’m ionic energy -- I don’t ever have to age or die -- and you can’t take me halfway to nowhere!”
And then he knocks her out in one punch. I guess she doesn’t have a lot going for her other than that aging trick.
Wonder Man: All those years of fearing death -- and all the time, I was essentially immortal!
Irony!
Anyway, there’s no ontological inertia here. As soon as Halflife was knocked out, the aging effects vanished from Mockingbird and Iron Man.
Speaking of easy victories once you figure out their deal...
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Hawkeye just pulls a theory out his butt that Quantum is solar-powered and uses a smokescreen arrow to make him take a beddy-bye.
I seriously have no idea how he came to this conclusion but I guess I shouldn’t discount the archer.
Remember, he’s the scientific genius who invented anti-gravity just for fun.
With all three Troubles down for the count, Hawkey congratulates the team for good teamwork.
They did a less obvious CHANGE PLACES “and fought what would have seemed the other guys’ enemies!”
I mean. Kinda.
Wonder Man fought the girl who had been designated for the girl fight. And Hawkeye fought the flying brick enemy. But Hawkeye also took out the electrical guy which was his opponent at the start. Mockingbird got olded and then didn’t get to do anything. And Iron Man didn’t do much at all except buy time.
Geez, I keep getting the feeling that Iron Man doesn’t do a lot in this book.
Hawkeye: “We really are what I’ve always wanted us to be -- a team!”
He says as Tigra is missing.
‘Wow, we’re really clicking today for some reason!’
I joke. But its a weird thing to pat yourself on the back for when the team isn’t all there, isn’t it?
With all the back patting accomplished, Iron Man realizes something is poking his brain about the specific guys that they just fought. Poking his SCIENCE brain.
And as waves of gravity bring the team to their knees and then flat on their asses, Iron Man realizes too late what the group theme was.
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THE FOUR FUNDAMENTAL FORCES!
Graviton, you giant nerd.
... And he was the one creeping on Tigra and now has her on a leash. Graviton, you consistent creep.
Now, I’m not a very science person, unlike Tony Science-Brain Stark.
But the four fundamental forces are gravity, the weak atomic force, the strong nuclear force, and electromagnetism.
I don’t think Zzzax was very magnetic but was very electric. But he’s dispersed so this group never got to be all four forces together.
Do Halflife and Quantum represent the weak and strong forces?
The weak force is responsible for particle decay and Halflife talked about decay a lot but it was more aging decay so... did Graviton just go ‘wtfe close enough’?
And the strong force is what holds an atom’s nucleus together. Does it make sense that the guy that represents it splits like an RPG slime if hit?
Science side of my audience, let me know.
The important thing though is that Graviton is back even though the last time he tangled with the West Coast Avengers, they drugged his drink and then kicked his ass.
Can’t wait for them to kick his ass again and I hope Tigra doesn’t make out with him.
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Thor in Endgame was really just making fun of the fact that he was overweight and turning (his) depression into a joke. His whole characterisation in the MCU is weirdly inconsistent and lazily done anyway, though. But that was just the cherry on top. Super bad taste. I also pity every overweight person who sat through this movie and had the whole crowd roaringly laughing at Hemsworth in a fatsuit. Ugh. By now, Thor has turned into a bad comedy character, and it's just weird.
I never liked the Thor movies, especially with what they did to Jane or appear to be doing to her now. I understand that a lot of fans are completely hyped about her as a female version of Thor, and I get that when turning off the more critical part of my brain, but... why wasn't she enough as a human and as a scientist, as a strong but mortal woman with real passion and intelligence? Waititi called her boring, but I liked her. Not as Thor's love interest, but as an independend character or rather as the character she could have been. She could've been relatable and real. Now she's as overpowered and warrior-like as pretty much the rest of the MCU women. Why does it always have to be either that or all smirks and sarcasm for female characters in these movies? They all seem the same by now. To me, at least. And it sucks.
And Tony's character death - I hated when it was implied that his death was the only way he could ever find rest/peace? What kind of fucked up message is that? Why, why, do these movies always either kill off trauma riddled characters or turn that trauma into a joke until it's just not shown and addressed anymore?
I get that these are superhero movies and it's all not that deep, but the MCU used to be so much better at writing characters in a compelling way. :/
Yeah, Endgame!Thor just didn’t hit right for me. Depicting depression in media can be hard, and while I have seen some good blends of depression and humour (I watched the first season Afterlife and I thought it did a really good job of showing someone in the midst of grief and depression while still incorporating humour), the way Endgame did it fell short for me.
Thor is probably one of the strangest characters in the MCU, you’re not wrong. He flipflops between a serious character with growth and then two seconds later he's a clown. There's a difference between a character being nuanced and...whatever is going on with Thor's writing. The only movie of his I actually remember is the first one, and that's because it was probably the best at handling his humour while still giving him depth. I don't really do MCU anymore, so I probably won't see the new movie either. I've just got such a sharp sense of disinterest in the fandom now. I think I'd only really like it again if I started actively writing in it - which probably sounds dumbs, but that's how my brain works haha
Jane definitely suffers from Being The Love Interest. I always enjoy stories were she gets roped into sciencing with Tony (and Bruce and Helen and literally any of the other big scientists). Her intelligence is such an underrated thing in the movies, I feel.
Tony's death wasn't handled well. You're absolutely right about the fucked up message around it. He had peace. The man had his happy ending. He married the woman he loved and was raising his daughter. While the Snap ruined a lot of lives, Tony had made his peace with it and his grief, and carved out a new path for himself. He was, as always, looking to the future. While I understand that final scene was supposed to be a 'tribute' to Tony and whatever, I feel like what they should have done something similar to the first Guardians movie. Have a whole bunch of the Avengers join hands and share the burden of the gauntlet's power. They even had the foreshadowing right there to build off of.
Have Tony, Steve, Thor, Clint, Natasha (because she shouldn't have died), Bruce, Carol, Rhodey, etc. stand together. And while Tony could still be the one to 'Snap' (and maybe he loses his arm or something), it would have distributed the backlash between them. That would have been a much better resolution in my eyes. That way Tony can retire (so they don't have to bring RDJ in anymore unless for a cameo or something), and still get his happy ending. It would have done wonders for presenting the Avengers with a chance to stand united for one final fight as well; and even if I don't particularly like the idea of forgiving Team Cap for some of the things they did (I'm still salty over CW, sue me, idc), it would have been a solid conclusion with an opening to keep one of their most beloved characters alive and not burnt to a crisp in an unsatisfying death scene.
But yeah. That' s enough rambling from me. You guys should stop poking this landmine or I might decide to rewrite the whole universe 😂😂😂😂😂
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I’d love to hear more of your Tony/Maria thoughts. For me I liked their meeting better in 21 and though I miss the light heartedness of their relationship, it was interesting seeing Maria point out a lot of societal issues to Tony. It’s a difficult couple to write Imo
Omgomg i finnally have the chance to go off
They sure are difficult to write i mean with what happened in the fight, with bernardo and riff and chino and then tony going to maria like nothing happened and begging (but not really) for her forgivness bc a womans love clears all mens sins.... i cant be that mad tho there's just something very special about them, for me at least, but some of it did made me mad in 2021 and i'll tell you why.
Well, i'll begin the the good bc i do agree with you nonny, i really loved how active Maria was in this ver, it felt like a different character than 1961 in some ways, it's as if she had more screentime too and i smiled every time she spoke bc she was speaking in spanish and in facts. How she spoke her mind to her brother and sis-in-law and then to tony to tell him how pointless and ridiculous a fight between both sides is bc one side is in clear disadvantage against the other... and bc she just doesn't want anyone to get hurt!!!!!! And what bothers me about the train scene is that tony was always trying to get the conversation to focus on him and his side, and yk what i get it! Riff is his bestie but why is he constantly bringing him up to get Maria to stop talking about stopping the fight.
another thing is that Maria also talked about her future plans, going to college, and doing something with her life (which wasn't something she brought up in 1961) and it just never gets adressed ever again(?) It could have been useful to support their plan to run away together but it just wasn't used because of reasons.
And then we have tony *takes a deep breath* i have a problem with 2021 tony and i'm tired of pretending i'm not. I'm gonna ignore the fact that he was played by *@&#*$&#*$# and go straight to the way he was writeen. It was fine until that scene in the mini market *cries in latina* and then he said he wanted to find a puerto riqueña girl just like doc because???? I dont even remember but thats enough for me to remember, it felt like he just wanted someone like that bc he envisioned the "perfect couple" and thats what it looked like (and tbh i feel as if he didn't change that mindset much but anyway). And the way he cuts maria off when she's talking about something important, more important that whatever relationship he has with his ex gang, is just weird.
There was something else about tony but right now i dont remember ;-;
Now....what i really have a problem with is the way THAT scene on the bedroom was handled. I know it's like the most controversial part of the show bc why would Maria sleep with the guy who killed her beloved brother. But at least 1961 tony explained why he did it, he said he had no choice bc her brother had killed his bestie (still questionable but yeah) and 2021 tony explained....nothing he didnt say a damn thing to try to get maria to calm down a little, he just stayed there waiting for maría to get over her completely understandable breakdown and he was ready to go before making sure she was ok i'm- *flips a table*
I guess there are other things that people smarter than me could point out but this is just what came to my mind first.
Even as i say all this, i really love wss 2021, every musical number is larger than life and the way so many things changed form 1961 and worked better than 1961 makes me so happy. This was actually the only movie i was excited for during the last 3-4 years i think. But 1961 is also close to my heart bc there's something about that ver that is really dreamy (the meeting scene for example) while 2021 went for a more realistic aproach. I love both of them. But i'm a sucker fo the "and the world disapeared leaving only them" trope in romance.
I could go on and on about what i liked about wss 2021 but this is already a long post 😭.
But yeah i think my biggest problem with this ver. is tony and maria's relationship. Everything else was chef's kiss.
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Wally anon: (to the other anon: whoooops, I really keep getting carried away with our ongoing correspondence 🫣)
you knowwww he's packing it. 🍆 (omg @ not even seen the OG until then 😭) Yuppp. We should, in fact, be incl more. queer characters cause the more the merrier 🌈 🌈 🌈 instead of patting ourselves on the back for a single. one when they had the potential for THREE! omg whyyy are we the same person. I really am not a fan of Tara + find a lot. of the hype surrounding her be because people like Jenna (& I get it, Jenna's iconic). When you really unpack her character, she...doesn't have much of a personality? just tiny details that never really come together & THEN she spends most of the movie in the hospital so she doesn't have much of a story arc either so it's like 🤷‍♀️ (The Inhaler™ is such a personal meme to me cause I can nottt take it srsly from how forced they made it when Tara is never actually. negatively impacted by her asthma, see: the way she runs with zero issue in 6 skdhsk) Yupppp, you get it. I know it wouldn't be a ~crowd-pleasing~ thing to have a GF exclusively using guns, but like...it's a horror movie. Commit & be nasty or be safe & PG-13. 🙃 I will. say, stuntman/actor-wise, H20 has one of the worst. Mask I can give a slight pass, but...what was that man doing lollll. (Oh your hole will be stretched so wide & floodeddd with cum when he's done that you won't believe how much comes leaking out of you 🤭) I can see that for sure but I think me having a less...enthused reaction to 2018 made it + Kills work better for me than a lot of people. Yesss, such. a fucked up opening but so very perfect at the same time for being a complete subversion on everything we've come to expect with babysitters in the franchise. 😫 (but, yeah, I think if they had somehow managed to have the opening take place on 2018 night itself or have Michael just lurking around but him not directly doing anything, just his ~evil~ influencing the situation, I think it would be more seamless) Yeahhhh @ this trilogy. I understand. why they ~went back to basics~ by ignoring the sibling connection, but inherently creates a disconnect cause like Dave says in 2018...he only killed a handful of people. In some. ways it works with the OG only having Judith's murder as a catalyst for turning Michael into a boogeyman & expanding on those vibes, but in other ways, it makes certain decisions clunky (Sartain, hello). Oh, please do keep going @ sleazy men from school. I know a lotttt of people were going wild over Johnny earlier in the year & I absolutely see the vision there. 👀👀👀
Oh yeah, I got what you meant. We all have our firsts. 👍 I do think that just tends to be Raimi's signature style, which varies in effect for me from what I've seen by him so I obviously understand being a little put off by them. You whackin Tobey so bad. 💀 Interestingggg @ this ranking. I'd need to rewatch some of them to present mine cause it's been awhile for a few of them, but SM2/verse are pretty firmly tied at the top (I also controversially recall preferring TASM2 cause the drama of the Gwen plot even if I know the villains themselves aren't the greatest. in it). But yes ughhh that. critique always annoyed the shit outta me back in the day cause literally what is the point if you're doing the exact same thing every time with adaptations? Yes, you need specific tenets to go "This character is Spiderman" but the way people went nuts over the ~skater boy loner who's actually kind of charming when he applies himself~ completely miss what works about that duo of films. 😒 sdksgs oh you want him to SUFFER.suffer. Can't say I disagree cause it would make him 5000% more developed than when they kept shoving Tony in front of him & it's the kind of material Tom deserves. 🙌🙌🙌  Okay, okay, I see. So you'd say him being older helps prepare him better for the specific Spiderman struggles than the typical teen Peter antics. (Priorities @ super caked up 🤭) Ooh, what kind of sex toys are we talking? Anything funky that would be unique to him? And I assume this means he also. developed his own lubricant like he has with making his webs? Perhaps a super long-lasting lube that intensifies the pleasure receptors in the body. 🥴 Oh he'd for sureee be rocking the sweatpants. They're his Thing, after all (just like his fat di-🤫).
Yesss & you're just so boneless from all the thrusting & cumming & stimulation that you're just happy you're somewhere comfortable while they keep going.  🤤
Yesss my god not expanding on his Uncle Ben at all. was always such a ???? to me cause that is such a crucial element of Peter's story. I know they somewhat rectified that in NWH but why did it take thatttt long to do so? Oh right, wasting all that time on Tony. 🖕 (But yupppp, they were obsessed with tying almost every part of Tom's Peter into Tony's life & there was zero reason to do so beyond the ridiculous Tony bias). Understandable choices @ them being tied, especially with our ongoing conversations in mind. I controversially think that Endgame really was genuinely the beginning of the end for the MCU & not just for Steve reasons. Soooo many of the bad decisions they make now come directly from not letting ~the snap~ linger more & wanting to bring a quick end to the Infinity Saga (when tbfh, IW should've been "the end" with stage 4 being entirely constructed to reverse it while gradually peppering in new characters so that when they earned. Endgame + characters bowed out, we would already been attached to new ones). (Ooh, let's brainstorm cause I can really see the Santa!Steve + cheering up vision, but am similar wondering how we would get to smut 👀) I never ended up seeing Defending Jacob. 🙈 I think the fact he doesn't. know about parenting cause he still hasn't dealt with his unresolved issues makes sense for him, it's just that the movies...do nothing. with that in favor of a quick & hollow & romanticized relationship with Peter. 🙃 (I think Peter still wouldn't quite. recognize it cause his "powers" didn't require anything particularly strenuous, but he'd have Mysterio panting for sureee) Yesss, exactly. Some of the juiciest pairings are ones that you + the narrative know are kind of wrong for each other but the chemistry is INSANE so you need. to see it.😮‍💨 (Yesss @ the reveal. Easily one of the best villain reveals in the MCU & I wish they had fully capitalized on all that potential cause yeah what tf is the point of these dumbass glasses when it should be entirely a personal motivation but you knowwww those glasses would be like those ~VR headsets for immersive sex situations~ & I picture a scenario where Mysterio has Peter tied down & projecting a vision of them having sex while he actually has some special machine sucking him off the entire time 🤭) Iknowww. We fr can't escape. (But hmmm, I'd say either are correct headcanons depending on the fic, but in this situation I'm thinking short!top. 🫡 Tom's just hot in general, but it could have to do with FFH giving Peter ~the most variety to do~ with the changing locations & all that).
Yuppp. Got what they deserved fr. And then he'll just wipe the cum off your face, slather it on his dick, bend you over, & start fucking you cause he's still so hard. 🫣
Please continue to yap away. I am very excited to see how it all turned out. 🫶 adjsk I'll bet. 👀 I believe in you. We've discussed so much with Wally that I know you got this. 👍
(Oh, Priscilla is sooooo good but depressing. Seeing just a fraction of everything she went through like 💔)
true uhhh we can always have a more naturally flowing conversation on discord or something if you have it!
everyone’s packing tbh. and yeahhhh i’m a fake fan😪 sorry i wasnt conceived in the 80s so i could be able to watch and comprehend it sksjskj. exactly with the multiple queer characters. I know overrepresentation can happen, but it’s mainly when (blatantly) homophobic studios want to fight the allegations and do it terribly. most people that include a lot of queer characters can usually handle giving them depth and all. Jenna is really good in any role she is and she definitely elevates a somewhat flat character with her acting. Omggg the way 6 didn’t even mention it (I think) so it really felt like a plot device + she doesn’t suffer from asthma while running in the hospital scene. It’s the way 6 is rated R and yet the gun doesn’t really have a graphic usage. It’s implied and shown but there isn’t a massacre or anything. … so true, why does michael feel so short in H20😭 Like, they managed to be more convincing with the stuntman switch from the Halloween 1978 to Halloween 2… and the guy playing michael in 2 was like a foot short if I remember correctly. Kills has some dumb scenes like with the gun and the car door, but I like it being a parallel to Halloween 2 in the same was that they mirror a love of Halloween in H2018. I loveeee the babysitter subversion was so good. And yesss about the clunkiness. I think that it keeps the story more simple and easier to understand, but it ruins Laurie because why would she have any reason to believe that Michael would come back? She didn’t seemed worried about it in H2 until he showed up again, and H20 uses that to its advantage by following H1 + 2 instead of just 1. Plus, Laurie is a drunk so she’s prone to being more paranoid in that version. Johnny had the cake and the sass to make it work. Idc if he’s a cannibal and generally crazy. He’s soooo fine it’s crazy
We do indeed all have our firsts🤭 Listen I’m all here for TASM 2 love… Gwen’s plot is so strong in the movie and I love the time motif. Peter’s stuck in the past, Harry’s running out of time to live, so on and so on. Exactly!! I want him to ride that skateboard (and me, hello!! we’ve seen the behind the scenes of it👀👀) and I think making him that way works so well for those movies. Tom is so good at handling darker material, as seen in The Crowded Room, so I would love to see something darker from his Spiderman. I love the brighter mood of his movies as it makes them easy to return to, but I want to see some actual development!! I feel like Peter has some spider bots that can wrap around his big dick, some machines that pound harder than thor lmaooo, and I had some other ideas that i’d have to find but obviously something that gives really realistic feeling “blowjobs” too. Maybe his version of sex pollen that alters the brain chemistry temporarily to heighten sex drive (specifically with people named Peter Parker.) Oh exactly, they never come off, unless you take them off🤭
Totally, you’d need a bed to keep yourself from being sore against a counter/table/whatnot
Like, I know we pick up after Uncle Ben’s death (six months after i think?) but come onnnn. No mention no anything??? I like that we got it with Aunt May, but it felt a little too late tbh. I like that the snap is fixed within like two movies, but I hate that its impact is little explored until movies and shows after the fact. That’s so smart about introducing the new characters tbh. Also Santa!Steve could be giving the gift of big dick🫡 jkjk, maybe he knows exactly what you want/or he does a Santa’s lap thing? There’s a lot of possibilities to take, each with a level of hotness (i’m sure we can figure out something!) Yeah I don’t think Tony’s parents cause do much to help his case. It’s an explanation but not an excuse. Oh, Peter can go rounds and rounds and rounds and Mysterios tired on the first? He must be a fake! So true about knowing that it’s wrong making it better, idk maybe it’s like self indulgence when you know it’s a bad idea sksjsks. The glasses sucked as a plot device but I guess I thought it was a good enough motivation. The dumb part was that he was mad that he renamed the tech, instead of feeling like he was mad for being robbed. Yesss Mysterio is smart and getting to see Peter being all his. He got his cake and ate it too, by distracting him in the best way possible. Tom is so hot, I love most of his roles (surprisingly the TCR isn’t one i find that’s hot, but Arvin and Cherry🤭.) Short!top Peter vibes with just topping random civilians because you know there were some freaky sex hookup opportunities in the places he visited, and of course had Mysterio to follow with the entire time🫣
Omg cum for lube and bending you over🤭😮‍💨
Hopefully it’s good. I had to work tonight but i’m gonna work on it tomorrow and hopefully have it out🫡
It’s so sad😭 I hate knowing that this isn’t even all of it. And I hate saying Jacob is hot as Elvis but that’s just the actor… the accent doesn’t really do it for me tbh.
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