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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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Allos who don't understand why aspec people get so upset over aroace erasure in the Hazbin Hotel fandom were clearly not an aspec person when the Good Omens season 2 leak came out.

Showrunners are under pressure to keep their audiences, especially when shows are getting cancelled left and right. The audience's opinions and wants are taken into account, something which I think not many people realise.

#i just dont want to have another “its queerbaiting” with hazbin too #good omens #goodomens #hazbin hotel #alastor #asexual alastor #aromantic alastor #aroace alastor #aro #ace #aroace #aspec #asexuality #aromanticism

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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I unfortunately saw something I didn't want to see and that was my last straw. I'm fucking doing this.

Let's establish this first. Alastor is stated in the show to be asexual that is not up to discussion. He is also very heavily implied in the same conversation to be aromatic. 'An Ace in the hole' being used in context of him being with Charlie is also implying his aromanticism.

VIDEO

If that's not enough then here is Viv speaking about his romantic orientation. It's pretty clear despite the fact that afterwards she said it's okay to headcanon whatever (it's not but I will get o that later) that he is written purely as an aro ace character.

On top of that going by Alastor's interaction with Angel from the pilot and the first episode it is clear that he is sex repulsed. Not only that but on the fandom website he is stated to be touch averse with two sources which you can check out on the website.

Hazbin hotel wiki, Alastor page

Now we established that Alastor is canonically Asexual, Aromantic, Sex Repulsed and Touch Averse

As I also am all of the above I'll try to explain everything to the best of my ability as simply as I can.

Aromanticism and Asexuality.

I'm probably targeting the audience that knows those terms but regardless I will explain it anyway.

Aromantic - people that experience little to no romantic attraction towards any gender

Asexual - people that experience little to no sexual attraction towards any gender.

Little to no

Asexuality and aromanticism are spectrums in which people can feel certain attractions towards people but those attractions are less occurring or are defined by personal connection.

Diagram from AVEN website

However some people are at the end of the spectrum, they never felt attraction and that's valid. Alastor was stated to be aroace he wasn't written as demi or as gray he was written as aroace as in the end of the spectrum. His repulsion and not giving shit about romance or sex speaks for itself.

Representation

I do understand that everyone wants to be represented but it's so important to understand that aroace people are one of the most underrepresented queer groups in the media.

And I'm not here to scream about how I want my fav character to be just like me I don't care for it I'm way too confident in my orientation to rely on that however I'm tired of explaining to people what asexuality and aromanticism is just to receive 'are you sure' or 'you'll change your mind' or 'its not real' or the community favourite 'you'll find the right person' no I won't I'm not looking thank you very much (I just smile and nod to be polite and I'm sick of it).

'Harmless' buts like: 'He might be on the spectrum', 'AroAce people can still feel attraction' hurt the final outcome for all the people on the spectrum not only strictly aroaces because it allows people to write one shots with 'Demi Alastor' that falls in love in 2000 words because he is 'demi' (spoiler alert: they don't understand what that label means). It's just a cover, an opening, sneaky way to disregard his orientation, feel good about themselves and move on. Newsflash there is no moving on for aroace people it's our life.

Shipping

Shipping is just harmless fun right? Usually yes but not in this case. In the same way its not okay to ship gay characters with genders they are not attracted to.

It's erasure and since there is much less people identifying on aro/ace spectrums then there is gay or bi people our voices are being silenced. Not to mention that gay people received support from entire LGBTQIA+ community over the years in contrast to aro/ace specs who to this day are told that we are 'not queer enough' or 'not oppressed enough' often by other queer people.

And finally... FINALLY we get cannon Aro/Ace character that is clearly not interested in romance and sex. Character that beats stereotypes of boring and timid aro/ace people and what's the first people do? They ship him. Alastor's storyline provides so many points to be explored like 'what is his backstory', ' what's about his deal', ' how does he fit in in the found family trope' , 'does he care about hotel guests' yet people choose to write about the only thing that he is not interested in. As a heavily repulsed person that used to be horrified about the fact that I'll have to fall in love with somebody at some point before I found out what aro/ace is I find it repulsive and trust me he would too.

But Viv said it's okay!

Its the same point once again. What if Viv said that it's okay to ship gay Angel with woman. She doesn't have authority to say shit like that.

Queerplatonic relationships

I can't tell you not to do it I don't think he would be necessary interested in it but for fuck sake do your research and try to understand what queerplatonic means before you use it as a cover to shamelessly ship him. Respect the fact that he is sex repulsed and touch averse and you're fine.

Why can't you just avoid it?

First of all I shouldn't have to. Alastor's orientation should be respected in the fandom like any other orientation is. Second of all I've tried. I tried to only look up AroAce Alastor tag I've blocked over 80 people on tumblr alone (I just counted) to avoid to see anything that could trigger me and I'm not talking about slightly shippy posts or fanarts I'm talking about full blown disregard towards his orientation. Guess what it didn't work!

Archive of our own where do I start. I've used this website for over a decade and I could probably count days I didn't go there on my fingers. I'm fluent in AO3 I know which tags I should block. I know how to skim thorough the summary and tags to see if I'm interested. I've seen shit I'm a shipper I've been on ao3 for ten years but never had to mentally prepare myself to face queerphobia as I click on the tab.

Just use aro/ace Alastor tag.

I do and let me tell you people can't tag for shit or they just pretend to be clueless at this point. Besides see this?

there is more ff with Alastor/reader (disgusting) than there is Alastor with his canon orientation and to play the devils advocate for arophobic people there is more Angel/Alastor then his stated in the show sexuality. I understand that fandom goes back before the show was aired but Viv confirmed his orientation back then too.

Summary

I could go on and on bout different issues and maybe I will in the future but I'm not wasting anymore of this weekend on it. I'm ready to answer any questions as long as they are respectful.

I'm aware that he is a fictional character, it doesn't affect him in any way whatsoever but it does affect aromantic and asexual people keep it in mind.

If there are any mistakes grammar related I'm not sorry I'm fluent in English (not my first language) but I took 3h nap in between and I'm sleep deprived.

Have a nice day.

#if youre allo read this #alastor #aroace alastor #hazbin hotel #aromantic #asexual #aromantic alastor #asexual alastor

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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how vox's "offer" for alastor to join his "team" went

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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as someone who is AroAce, all the shipping with Alastor makes me very uncomfortable.

there’s nothing wrong with finding him attractive it’s just we don’t have a lot .

I see a lot of people from my community who shares the sentiment, like if a trans character is misgenderd. And I know what you’re going to say “Ace people can still want to have sex” but Alastor is such a clear case where he doesn’t. he is extremely touch averse. And btw why does he even need to, only too fill some sort of requirement for shipping. And now you’re going too say that it isn’t real and it’s not going to be canon, but the thing is that the content you put out gets consumed by a lot of people and the feelings a lot of those get aren’t always positive, in fact they’re often negative. So please, can we please just have our one actually popular ace character? Please?

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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There's nothing better or more devestating than when you read a fanfic that's so good it completely changes your perception of a show/character and every time you rewatch the show/movie you think about said fanfic

#ive been inactive and in a slump for weeks and this is the thing that brought me back to life #goddamn #fanfic #fanfiction #fan fiction #hazbin hotel

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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A little late, but happy aro spec week! To celebrate I drew Alastor, the aroace ever

🧡💛🤍🩵💙 ~🦌

And remember, as the wisest of wise Amir once said, “You don’t have to f*ck to be fabulous” (or something like that-)

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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okay im going to sleep now byeee *throws this at you and runs away* <3 ace ring <3

sketches of this

very cool idea by @gay-autistic-bitch-boy

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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Things I had to see since joining this fandom:

"Alastor is so hot, too bad he's ace. It kinda sucks tbh, I wish he wasn't asexual."

"Alastor is asexual but not aromantic, this has never been confirmed" ignores the mountain of evidence

"I know Alastor is aroace but he deserves a relationship and I really just want to see him happy with someone..."

"Maybe he has had bad experiences with relationships when he was alive"

"I'm gonna make him question his sexuality"

"If he's ace why does he do [xyz thing that has nothing to do with sexuality]?"

"Aces can still have sex! Aros can still date!" proceeds to never mention his identity again and portray him exactly like an allo person

"Sex-averse aces can still have sex regularly!" (be fucking fr)

"Vivziepop said in a stream that Alastor is sex-favorable and has a preference for women" (no she did not why u lyin'???)

"Rosie said the 'ace in the hole' thing because Alastor is an advantage for Charlie and the hotel, not because he's asexual"

"I know Alastor is canonically aroace but for the sake of this fic let's just pretend he isn't"

Things I have yet to see (do better):

Someone who isn't on the ace or aro spectrum actually portraying a sex-favorable or romance-favorable Alastor instead of an allo version of the character

Allos in the "aces can still have sex! aros can still date!" crowd giving literally any support to the aspec community aside from trying to scoot around Alastor's asexuality

Just one allosexual writer who's like "I know Alastor is aroace so I'm going to try to include that in my writing! Feel free to give me feedback if I get anything wrong!" (if you guys are out there, hit me up, I'll follow you if you're not on my DNI)

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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it will never not be funny to me that alastor's mortal enemies are, in order:

literal lucifer morningstar the devil himself

one of the most powerful overlords in hell

some old bitch named susan

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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My blog has become infested with angst goblins, and they must be fed with some hypothetical scenarios!🙏💚

#the colours are amazing holy shit #hazbin hotel fanart #hazbin hotel

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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hey guys do the allos know that they can have qprs too? like do they know that being alloromantic doesn't mean they can't choose to be in a qpr anyway? because qprs aren't "romance-lite" for aros, they're an entirely separate kind of relationship that anyone can have. you can do this with fictional characters too. you can put characters that aren't aroace or are even canonically dating in qprs with each other just because you think that would be a cool way to play with their dynamic. it's actually very cool and you totally should.

#doctordonna #doctor who

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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My favourite thing about Alastor is his hoard of gal pals!

He’s just a cool and charming dude that women feel comfortable around…And is also a power hungry eldritch horror.👌👌👌

#fan art #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel fanart #hazbin rosie #hazbin alastor #aroace #asexual icon!#I’m so tired of oversexualised charming men I’m so happy he’s ace #men with a lot of women friends is such a green flag #<prev

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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It's honestly so weird and creepy when people approach an aroace character like that and how similar it is to a straight man saying that about a lesbian character or a straight woman about a gay character, but society isn't ready to talk about that yet.

aroace alastor and fandom

I love alastor and I'm very glad hes aroace as i am also aroace and it's super nice to have representation as aroace rep isn't very common. I hate the way the fandom treats him though. He's been at least asexual from the start but people shipped him with everyone under the sun (including themselves) and wrote so much smut about him. Even after the q&a where alaster is also confirmed to be aro people still ship him with people in a way that's reciprocated and/or sexual. (I like the idea of vox/alastor where it's a one sided obsession). It genuinely disgusts me that people will ignore his canon sexuality just to fulfill their fucked up fantasies. I'm clinging to the representation that I can get but half the fandom treats him like his sexuality isn't a lack of attraction. I just want to feel like my sexuality is respected and viewed as something a character can be. 'He's so sexy tho' It doesn't matter that you think he's sexy that doesn't give you a right to violate his character and change his identity to suit your whims. Sorry it just pisses me off.

#hazbin hotel #alastor #hazbin alastor #the radio demon #Ace #Aro #Aroace #aroace representation #fandom #asexual #aromantic #aromantic asexual #aroace alastor #<<prev tags

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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The duality of "If you even imply that being aro or ace condemns someone to a sad and lonely life I will fucking fight you"

and

"being aro and ace is the most isolating thing I will ever experience"

#literally the only reason i feel ashamed of being aroace is because everyone is constantly reminding me how lonely i will be #that kind of pity is so goddamn condescending it makes me want to rip my hair out #asexuality and aromanticism arent the problem #its people who refuse to accept them #good omens #doctor who #hazbin hotel

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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Alastor edit by me !

I've recently made a post talking about how Alastor is aroace and that should be respected and I've gotten a lot of comments saying that he is not real and it doesn't matter what you do with fiction. While this may be true to a certain extent. You should still respect canon sexualities, because those sexualities are representation and it should not be removed or disregarded.

#hazbin hotel alastor #hazbin hotel #Alastor #alastor hazbin hotel #ace representation #aro representation #representation is important #aromantic #asexual

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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What's that? People can't stop being thirsty for Alastor?

Well sucks to be them. He's well hydrated it seems~

#hazbin hotel #alastor #asexual #aromantic #ace #aro #aroace

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vroomvroomwee · 2 months

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#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel finale #hazbin hotel spoilers #hazbin spoilers #hazbin hotel alastor #hazbin alastor

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