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hannahstanwald · 3 months
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the og time traveller 🐩
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spectraling · 1 year
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Some pain is never forgotten. You will carry it for the rest of your life.
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yellow-dejavu · 2 months
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Girlbosses in caves with terrible taste in men
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Their taste in men was cheater. They were girlbossing so hard for 3 seasons straight that they didn't have time for a decent love interest.
Claudia: Bernd Doppler and Tronte Nielsen
Charlotte: Peter Doppler and Ulrich Nielsen
For some reason, they only dated the worst possible partners from each family. I know we didn't see Bernd Doppler cheating on screen, but I just know that he was a cheater too and I don't need proof.
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But there's actually proof. According to Stranger Martha's bunker walls, Greta Doppler died in 1972. Regina was born in 1971. They could have divorced or whatever, but I just don't think Greta would give that man a divorce.
Both Charlotte and Claudia had two questionable love interests, to say the least.
They are among my favorite characters in the series, and I hadn't noticed that coincidence until now. Dark has a lot of parallels between characters, I think most of them are carefully planned because of the great storytelling, and others are harder to tell if they were intentional or not.
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magg0t-bible · 1 year
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Why There's No Bartosz in the Origin World: A Calculated Infodump
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So I know there were a few people who were upset about the fact that Aleksander and Regina's relationship didn't make it to the Origin World despite both of them still existing without time travel. I've also seen some people who said they felt bad for Bartosz because he didn't make it to the Origin World even though his birth wasn't the result of time travel. But after some careful consideration (read: hyperfixation go brrrr), I think I've come to a fairly logical conclusion about why this is the case. Originally, I thought that Aleksander and Regina only met because Aleksander pulled a gun on Ulrich to stop him from bullying Regina, and that event no longer happens with Ulrich out of existence. But there's more than that, and in this essay I will here is my explanation.
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In season 2, when Clausen is interrogating Aleksander about the disappearance of his brother, the real Aleksander Kohler, he mentions that his brother disappeared "without a trace. Nothing." When someone in Dark disappears without a trace, nothing, we can pretty safely assume that time travel is to blame. Clausen assumes that his brother is dead and suspects "Aleksander" (Boris) of being the guilty party, but the disappearance happened in Marburg, not Winden, so we don't see it play out. It could be a Mikkel situation (taking on a new identity and a new life in a different time), or a Mads/Erik/Yasin situation (he just died and his body was dumped God knows when).
The letter that Clausen receives tipping him off about travelling to Winden to get answers about his brother's disappearance would at this point likely be presumed to have been written by Claudia. But after the events of season 3, it's much more likely to have been written by The Unknown, for 3 main reasons:
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First, it includes the same quote ("he who has eyes to see and ears to hear...") that The Unknown says to Gustav Tannhaus before murdering him in 1888,
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second, the handwriting on the letter matches the handwriting used by The Unknown when he writes the notebook,
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and third, the motherfucker knows everything. Everything about what happens in both worlds, at every time, and is constantly catapulting between timelines murdering everyone in his way to make sure those events keep happening. (Though it remains unclear whether or not he knew there was a third world.)
So with this information under our belts, there's a pretty strong theory that The Unknown fabricated the Marburg incident to look like a murder and to make Boris Niewald look like the guilty party, which would lead to the following chain of events: Boris changes his name to Aleksander > he flees his past and comes to Winden > he meets Regina > the two of them get married and have Bartosz.
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Keeping Bartosz in existence definitely would've been in The Unknown's best interest as Bartosz needed to produce Noah, the perpetrator of many of the Adam's World disappearances, and Agnes, who the Unknown would get with in both worlds to produce Tronte, and the Nielsen loop would continue.
So ultimately, in a world without time travel, Aleksander Kohler never disappeared, and the other events subsequently didn't occur. Boris Niewald never changed his name, he never fled to Winden, he never met Regina....and they never had Bartosz. (Yes, the writers could've come up with another reason for Boris to come to Winden and meet Regina which could've yielded Regina Niewald and Bartosz Niewald, but based on the way everything was set up, it would've required an explanation and I'm not sure such an explanation could fit into the dinner scene without being hamfisted).
I won't lie, I was pretty sad about losing Bartosz as he was my second favourite character behind Claudia (who thankfully made it), and he was the one member of the teen generation I really thought would survive. But if you can come up with a way for him to still exist, by all means, write a fix-it fic. That's what they're for. (Some good examples can be found in this post by @haljathefangirlcat)
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dogtheories · 1 year
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no way. agnes having gay sex with egons wife was like a necessary thing to happen for agnes to even exist because if she didnt have gay sex with his wife then the wife wouldnt have basically dumped him and he wouldnt have gone and fucked hannah so silja wouldnt exist to give birth to agnes. and if agnes never fucked guy x3 then tronte wouldnt exist to have ulrich to bully regina so she met aleksander to give birth to bartosz to fuck silja to have agnes (and noah but who cares abt him). and ulrich to have mikkel and martha so mikkel could have jonas to fuck martha(2) so they could have guy x3. so the stability of the nielsen / tiedemann side of the family tree literally depends on gay sex
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ramyeongif · 10 months
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Jonas meets alt Martha and has The Unknown, who goes back in time to father Tronte Nielsen with Agnes Nielsen, who fathers Ulrich Nielsen, who fathers Mikkel, Martha and Magnus Nielsen; Mikkel gets sent back in time and ends up marrying Hannah, and has Jonas. Jonas is his own grandfather.
#SPOILERS: DARK
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travllingbunny · 3 years
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Dark + The Onion headlines - part 6 of ? (Season 3, episodes 3x01-3x04)
Part 1 (Season 1 - 1x01-1x06)
Part 2 (Season 1 - 1x09-1x10)
Part 3 (Season 2 - 2x01-2x02)
Part 4 (Season 2 - 2x03-2x06)
Part 5 (Season 2 - 2x07-2x08)
Dark + text posts
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holly-mckenzie · 4 years
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Lydia Makrides as Regina Tiedemann DARK: The Survivors (3.02) dir. by Baran bo Odar
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invisiblue · 4 years
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[SPOILERS] Dark s03 was insanely good, some things i want to point out:
-HOZIER'S IN THE WOODS SOMEWHERE got me shaking
-3x07 montage were so perfect i can't stress enough was good it was, well ep7 as a hole was everything i wanted since day one
-3x05 was so painful but on the same hand so poetic, Nielsen family deserved better omg
-I'm only gonna mention about that travelers medal, that was so fucked up omg the amount of details that it carrys, i can't
-I'm happy that they showed how Charlotte and Peter met, sometimes still can't believe that Helge had a child
-3×04 scene where adult!Magnus tell alt!Martha that for 33 YEARS he didnt want to believe that she left them em 1888, only for now, understands that was requested by them all along. And for alt!Martha was only a DAY or two. Time relativity always hits me xD
-I was feeling that Schrödinger's cat was going to figure out, and BANG a nice explanation, I'm a forever fan :)
-Incredible how Old!Claudia had to let Regina die for her adult self be able to change things, and in the end Tronte was not Regina's father, for me was quite plotwist. Also that she killed Alt!Claudia !!!!
-Charlotte's clock was not meant for her properly but for H.G. Tannhaus grandaughter who also was called Charlotte
-Also, i loved than H.G. Tanhaus was the one who caused all these caos, since he was so important for everything to happen but somehow he was not "directly" family involved, it always felt like something was missing
-I was happy(???) that Alt!Helge managed to kill Alt!Ulrich in the end, Helge deserved better. They didnt have much time to develop the alternative world this season, and still was good and not less complex
-The journal with all the information, that everyone used was written by Martha's and Jonas's son (honestly? Mindblown). Also that he caused the nuclear incident in 1986, just ties all loose ends so beautifully. The fact the he was always accompanied with himself was such good move, he never had a place in any world omg what a life concept, i want to know everything about him
-the shook faces of Bartosz and Hanno Tauber when they realised the mess they got themself into, how they really never had any chance or free will at all :(
-Well, they really didnt let Woller finish his eye story (again xD) and also i always wanted to know what happened between Boris Niewald and real Aleksander Kohler
-I want to hope that after baby!Charlotte was left with H.G. Tannhaus adult!Elizabeth and adult!Charlotte stayed together somehow
-The end was so poetic, Dark is already timeless art (literally hahaha)
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bosswaldcobblepot · 4 years
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The ways of the heart cannot be explained. It does what it wants. It's difficult for us to let go of what we desire deep within ourselves.
D A R K   —   3.4 Der Ursprung (The Origin)
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hannahstanwald · 27 days
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emys-123 · 4 years
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Dark season 3 was complicated but they nailed the bittersweet ending.
I need sleep because my brain is exhausted.
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yellow-dejavu · 4 months
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dark altered my brain chemistry and now i want to know the most irrelavant things about a bunch of characters that doesn't even exist in their own series.
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foreveranevilregal · 3 years
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Writing update that no one asked for: I’ve finished writing the first 3 chapters of my multichapter fic. I already have over 10,000 words, and once it’s edited I’ll be able to post it!
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I kinda wonder if there was a draft of Dark in which when the kid in 50s Germany talked about something traumatic that had happened to him and then rolled up his sleeves to reveal its source that there was a number there before someone thought for a second about how the show ended for Tronte and concluded that that might be a bad look
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