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Really fucked up that, when they’re young, Patrick and Art are SO tactile with each other, so comfortable sharing the same space. Art lets Patrick touch him and move him and physically overwhelm him and easily acquiesces to it, if not outright enjoys it.
Then in the present, they’ve been so far out of each other’s orbit for so long, held such animosity that when they have their moment alone in the sauna, Art physically recoils from Patrick’s close proximity! It’s so painful to watch because even as Patrick’s goading him, it’s so obvious he wants to be able to get back into Art’s space. But Art has erected all these walls around himself, he refuses to give Patrick an inch or even admit to missing how close they used to be!
AND THEN we see Art and Tashi later and he wants her to hold him, to be gentle with him, and just TOUCH him. Like, he does miss that kind of close physical contact! He either doesn’t know how to ask for it or is uncomfortable being that openly vulnerable. Worth noting that he pretty much always defers to Tashi in regard to initiating physical intimacy (with their first kiss, though he does state his desire, SHE has to be the one to make the first move). And it seems pretty obvious that Tashi herself isn’t comfortable providing that intimacy, whereas Patrick actively seeks to provide it (the hug/forehead kiss after their win together in the early years, dragging the stool closer to him).
Art has tried very hard to act like he doesn’t need physical affection and even though his discipline and devotion to Tashi has made him a stronger tennis player, it’s made him a hollow person, which, in turn, has kept him from becoming a GREAT tennis player.
All of this, of course, is why the ending hits so damn hard.
#challengers#challengers spoilers#art donaldson#unfortunately i have once again zeroed in on the most repressed character and made them my favorite#lol @ all the people saying he’s a manipulative snake: that’s part of what makes him great!#i think a fair amount of that manipulation or attempts at it come from a fear of loss and being alone#if he has to lose one to keep the other he’ll do it because it’s better than being left behind#hoo boy yet another character trait my fucked up faves have in common 😬#let’s not even get into how tashi AND patrick are trying to do right by him#tashi by making it so he can retire with a career to be proud of#patrick (who was pissed on art’s behalf wrt throwing the match) by laying all his cards on the table (court)#and giving art what he needed to play a great fucking game#there’s a whole other post to be written about how tashi and patrick handle art in similar ways#specifically that he submits to them so easily they take charge of him manipulate him the ways they want#good lord i need to see this movie again#or not might not be conducive to keeping my brain from melting out my ears lol
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so cool that fanfiction won anne rice’s war on fanfiction
#the new show is sooooooo good#everyone go watch it!!!#and as my buddy pointed out#so cool that tom cruise won anne rice’s war on tom cruise#she’s 0-2#for those not in the know:#she intentionally spread lies that cruise was trying to make the movie less gay in attempts to tank the film bc she was angry he was cast#and then fully admitted (!!) that SHE was the one who kept making edits to the script to try and make it more palatable to studios/audiences#(ie less gay and explicit) and that the director neil jordan actually put a lot of it back in there once he was in charge#and that tom had no say over the script at all#but by the time she apologized to him (like actually called him and apologized) the damage was done and people STILL think he did all that#and say what you will about him but thomas cruise put his whole pussy into lestat and stands by IWTV to this day#even after OPRAH called him to say she walked out of a screening of the movie because she thought it was putting the devil into the world#anyway.#sorry for being insane! it will happen again
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Happy One Month of Red, White & Royal Blue!
♡ 11.08.2023 ♡
#rwrb#rwrbedit#red white and royal blue#alex claremont diaz#henry fox mountchristen windsor#firstprince#mine*#how has it been one month already#the brainrot is actually crazy#i thought it'd just be some silly movie i watch once and never think about again#but yet here we are 😃#actually getting me to read a book lmao#anyway heres to one month!!!#praying for a sequel announcement before the year is up aljskkhf
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Me, watching the masterpiece that is del Toro’s Pinocchio:
#gdt pinocchio#pinocchio#I cried multiple times yes#and nearly cried again just thinking about the movie once it was over#then I remembered this scene of wee john in ofmd and laughed and felt better
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Small but significant character moments that I actually really adore are from both the times we see the boys as tots. There is a reoccurrence that happens in both of them that I find so incredibly interesting.
For the turtle tot short, Splinter leaves the boys with weapons. In the short, Raph is the one who suggests they do “what Lou Jitsu would do” and Leo is the one who takes point when Splinter comes back to reprimand them. Leo, in taking point, is the one to defend them and get Splinter off their tails.
And then, in the flashback regarding the Kuroi Yōroi helmet, Raph is the one who grabs and throws “Skully” as a way to replace their missing ball which breaks it into pieces, but Leo is the one who speaks for the group and rushes into action to fix the teapot.
I love this for multiple reasons, but the biggest are how it shows that Raph has always been inclined toward the bold and fun and making the plans to include his brothers in what he loves and believes they’d love, whereas Leo has always been inclined to be the “Face” of the group and shoulder the attention even if it’s potentially negative all while coming up with on the spot attempts to fix the situation.
#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rottmnt raph#rottmnt leo#rise Raph#rise leo#I really do love this bit of character writing a ton#again it’s so small but like this is consistent!#little Raph just wanted to have fun with his bros 😭#Leo immediately coming in with the save both times (and more - remember Bug Busters?)#I really love too how none of them pointed fingers like#it was Understood that Leo would speak for them#listen there’s a reason Leo is the Face Man and it’s NOT just because he’s got a pretty face#he can talk both himself and his fam out of situations and I wish we saw it even more because it’s amazing to witness#circling back to Raph his bold nature is something I ADORE about him but I don’t see it brought up a lot which makes me so sad#like this boy is a RAPHAEL he is bold!!#and it’s cute too how the other bros immediately go along with it too#imo the Raph in these tot flashback is the same Raph that glues them all together as a bonding exercise#side note but damn…Leo saves them from punishment in the tot short and immediately gets jumped 😔#but yeah man I think a Lot about the little dynamics between the bros and how those dynamics could have first came into being#Leo being the face of the team and having been it since childhood-#-makes all the moments of immediately choosing to sacrifice himself when HE royally messes up all the more notable#if it’s one bro or the whole group individually he’s more chill about it but often still lets himself be the talker to get them out of it#he will do his damndest to get his brothers and himself out of trouble but once they’re in it he’s in the front with a smile#his own safety be damned#Raph is actually the same in that respect - he’ll jump into danger fists first but all bets are off when a brother is in danger#and like how Leo’s been the face - as the eldest Raph has been the de facto leader of sorts#he’s the one who is shown to make up their games! and I think that’s very cute#anyway their clashing in the movie is so interesting for a lot of reasons but one of them is that it shows how-#-even a longstanding dynamic like Raph and Leo’s that’s WORKED for so long is still susceptible to flaws…and to time
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Recently noticed i never really tried drawing perez b4. Her eyes r so big and wet and shiny i truly cant do them justice here
#obligatory sorry for not posting as often once again#im at my “just thinking about drawing makes me vaguely nauseous” era. forgive me😔#saw#saw fanart#saw movies#lindsey perez#saw perez#latenightsundayblues art tag
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Gloves
#and suit and blood and the worlds smallest suspender flash anyway i dont think i need to explain myself to this crowd#this was a normal thing to do at 1:30 in the morning i think#i am also once again admiring the shot work and set design and lighting in Saw VI#some cherrypicked scenes aside most of the saw films are very pretty. like not talking abt the gore i mean the shots are just mwah#so pretty. composed so nicely. uses color and light and shadow so appealingly and in fun ways to make each trap unique#each scene even#theres much to learn about composition and mood from these films i s2g#and saw vi especially i swear is the prettiest film in the franchise each shot is so colorful and composed nicely 👌#saw#mark hoffman#my gifs#saw gifs#horror gifs#movie gifs#saw 6#saw vi#saw franchise#saw movies
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I need to watch Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure to reach my final conclusion on if she's even attracted to men
#girl help i keep thinking about sharpay and ryan being each others only friend growing up#theyre not very good at interpersonal relationships#romance is foreign to them. they dont care about playing romantic interests because they only view romance through the lens of theatre#fake. not real. an act to entertain an audience. so they dont understand why it would be weird#neither of them have ever kissed anyone#sharpay likes things that make her look better#because her whole life is a performance#so she wants troy because hes a shiny accessory to her#thinking about hsm 2 where once again when she tries to perform a romantic song (with troy this time and not her brother)#she still barely fucking looks at him#all of her attention is on the (nonexistent) audience#and ryan. ryan hm#ryan usually performs alongside sharpay#its usually an in universe performance. theyre on a stage. theres an audience#and all of his attention is on pleasing that audience#an exception to this is during the gay baseball song#where theres a different kind of audience BUT#ryan barely looks at them#most of his attention is directed solely to chad#talking flirting teasing being cocky and annoying but clearly addressing him directly through most of the song#first time this has happened with ryan. take that as you will#ANYWAY i can see sharpay as completely uninterested in romance but she hasnt realized that about herself#and she THINKS she wants it. because she sees it as glamorous#or maybe shes a lesbian i dont know#she might be a lesbian#the deciding factor is sharpays fabulous adventure#if she has chemistry with the guy in that movie then shes just repressed and clueless#if she doesnt shes aro#or possibly lesbian
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i love how fraught and complicated discourse around various utena characters ‘dying’ is when anthy is literally stabbed to death eternally by a million swords imbued with human hatred. and then utena gets stabbed to death by them also. like. ‘death’ is incredibly interesting in rgu because most of the time it’s this ambiguous figurative thing that has interesting implications re: ohtori as a closed-off world one can escape. we are all trapped in our coffins. mamiya is the only named character with a grave. nemuro memorial hall functions as one all the same. ruka is implied to have died in the hospital— was he dead all along? who was the boy we saw for these two episodes? is this dead boy the same boy, or is this just another coincidence from the shadow girls, cutting like a knife? it’s heavily implied that akio and anthy murder kanae by poisoning her, adding to the previous implication that they were poisoning mr ohtori too, but there are no perceptible consequences of this. kanae’s absence is not felt. she’s fed an apple slice. what happens to the bodies? we know what happened to the 100 boys, but what about everyone else? and so on and so forth. ‘death’ is a tricky thing in utena, i think it’s constantly functioning on figurative and literal levels in very different ways for very different purposes. dios died. dios was dying. dios didn’t die. he grew up. etc etc
#what am i trying to say here?#idk! think about all of the pieces you have#dying is complicated in ohtori in countless different ways#and i find it boring to see so much ‘this character is dead and that’s it’ stuff#when death is used farrrrrrr more figuratively than some ppl give credit for#and i think the movie too does wonderful things with death#and what ‘dying’ really means#being disbelieved. being forgotten. being rejected. haunting despite this#much more interesting to think about wrt commentary on abusive relationships than it is#to think about what?? oh me when my brother died but plot twist he’s alive and can walk on this road all cool. like?????#akio doesn’t have the power to make himself revenant#he THINKS he does and he absolutely has power when he’s alive and he imbues that power with such meaning that it does live on after him#but ANTHY. anthy is the one struggling with herself and her feelings and the impact of trauma and abuse (that power!!) in aou#he’s dead? he died? she brought him back through her memories? or she’s left him (metaphorical death) and he’s haunting her??#all such interesting interpretations#i haven’t mentioned touga bc i don’t have the energy today. if dead and just illusion of others memories then why active. why awful#like in aou akio is only Obviously scummy when he’s alive. his illusory self is based upon anthy’s love for him#if anime!touga is nothing more than nanami/whoever’s memories of him before he died……. why does he actively choose to suck again and again#like nanami wouldn’t do that. unless it was meant to be a subconscious thing like ooo he’s dead all along but that’s not what her arc is#it’s not ‘he’s been dead all along’ literally or figuratively. it’s ‘he’s unsafe and i don’t want him’#sigh. once again i am asking people to think about nanami and touga’s dynamic through touga’s eyes#it’s so interesting to me how people forget to consider his motivations or feelings on ANYTHING#like sure his motivations and feelings are scummy but they’re interesting!!!!! they intrigue me!!!!#compel me even#anyway ignore how i said i didn’t have the energy for this and then typed it all out anyway#dais.txt
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I think people are focusing way too much on the s*xual side of things with Noa and Mae.
Like…stop 🛑
I’m going to assume no one here needs anything explicit to happen between them to ship them. If that’s the only way you consume ships, then that’s on you.
But by ‘certain’ logic, then shipping Noa, Soona and Anaya means you like to watch animals getting it on irl. Is this true? I doubt it.
Thankfully, I’m capable understanding that shipping the fictional characters we were given is easy because of their human-like qualities and relatable dynamics. The CGI helps to suspend our disbelief a ton too, and of course, the great chemistry the actors delivered IRL. They did a fantastic job!
Because let’s be honest, if these characters behaved or resembled irl apes 100%, NO ONE WOULD GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THEM and these movies would not be what they are.
They’re shippable because of their dynamic, because of the themes and narrative devices they are using, because of the idea of two opposing worlds coming together through the kindredness of two unlikely heros, because of their relatability in the face of fear, prejudice and the unknown, because of the Shakespearean tragedy of it all-
NOT and I repeat, NOT because they might have s*x 😒
#tbf IF they were to go for a truly intimate relationship then I guess?? it could work? specially since all of the above has been established#I personally don’t how. It would have to be written really really well so it makes sense within the universe being established.#but ultimately that was never THE reason to ship them. That does NOT have to be end goal.#like??? do you think Guillermo del Toro wrote the Shape of Water because he wanted to fuck frogs?#Do you think warewolf folklore was written because people wanted to fuck dogs???#like do people realize the POTA movie are not just about talking monkeys frolicking through a post-apocalyptic world??#sometimes it’s good to dig a little deeper beyond shallow surface level meaning.#and I’m not even an expert. this is my first POTA movie tbh and even I can tell there’s underlying themes about the apes and the humans#being a reflection of each other#ultimately I think many understand this but just like to start drama so I will not be answering any comments since I’m here to have FUN.#once again I am a victim of a hate-crimed ship lmao 😭😂#Noa x Mae#nomae#Mae x Noa#noamae
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When someone claims that some recent movie they’ve seen is the worst they’ve ever seen when they haven’t been subjected to the terribleness of the movies they show on MST3K:
#funny#meme#MST3K#mystery science theater 3000#yes this is partially about tlj#but seriously#my mom once said the movie they rigged in a live MST3K show was the worst she had ever seen#absolutely wild#you want a bad movie? watch that show#you’ll never think a movie is bad again
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he never really tries to hide it but i loveeeee how soft-hearted sachio is...!
when he first goes after his sister to get her away from all those drug pushers he's pretty ruthless but every time he comes across someone in her likeness or girls who are pretty obviously caught up in the fighting against their will, he just gently pushes them aside before continuing to beat people to shit immediately afterwards.
(also when he says that his sister shouldn't make their mother cry :( !!!!!)
when sabakan slaps someone's head while scolding them he makes a short but quick protest against it before taking up the responsibility to fix things on his own (followed by yuken saying that when things go wrong he tends to blame himself...!)
when he sees fujio help that old woman up the stairs and fall down right after, he supplies him with bandaids and a can of soda and starts to chat with him despite the two not knowing each other very much at all (though that might be more on fujio than sachio—he seems like more of an extrovert that sachio)
the final nail in the coffin for me was seeing him wear the jacket sawamura was wearing when he was beat up, bloodstains and all. like a reminder why he was getting revenge/fighting in the first place, which—i don't think you have to be non-violent to be soft-hearted...! it just means that he cares and that's okay...!
(+ "now that i found out it wasn't you... i'm glad.")
just! i like how soft-hearted sachio is sometimes, even if we only get glimpses of his demeanour.
#high & low#high and low#hilo#high & low the worst#high and low the worst#ueda sachio#sachio#hanaoka fujio#fujio#once again watching these movies#i think that sachio is a very lovely person i'm ngl#idgaf if i'm accidentally woobifying him or whatever#i think it's a plus if a leader is capable of being compassionate!#it's so lovely that he cares about the people around him and the people under him and i like how it shows in his actions!#who can argue with me if i'm propagating fanon anyway there's like three fans of this franchise total
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#make up your mind peter#spiderman#across the spiderverse#miles morales#peter b. parker#atsv#atsvedit#spidermanedit#marveledit#spiderman across the spider-verse#spiderman across the spiderverse#across the spider verse#mine#gif:spiderman#its interesting how peter saw him very. you know. grown up talking to miles casually#but once theres a conflict he thinks of him again as a kid who doesn't know any better or who doesnt want to listen in this situation hmm#i just love this movie and all these kinds of relationships. the nuances!!#(i wanted to add a gif of hobie who later helps miles with his powers to break out. with the palms thing and he calls him Little man#and Peter Pan - kid who didnt want to grow up#probably hobie understanding miles more than anyone else in that room. about the age and views of society on him etc etc)
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All the advertising I saw for Elemental:
Check out this wacky adventure between a fire person and a water person! A Tree Child Flirts with her! LOL! HEY LOOK CLOUD PEOPLE! *cartoon spring and honking noises*
Me: I don’t… want to watch that. Oh well, that’s fine.
Me actually watching it:
Oh wait, it’s a story of an immigrant family who come with nothing and build a community for themselves and their people and the weight of debt you feel to your parents who sacrificed for you to succeed but the way that that success sometimes isn’t what you want and how parental love can feel conditional when there’s a lack of clear communication and—
Me getting to the end: SHE BOWED AND HE BOWED BACK 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💦💧💦💧💦💧💦💧💦🌊🌊🌊🌊🚿🚿🚿
#elemental#elemental spoilers#listen fucking Disney being brought in to advertise and then take over Pixar was a FUCKING MISTAKE#but also the surprise was ok#It was layered#you had the racism#you have the prejudice#you have the rich kid but who’s family is in touch with their emotions#so he connects to people at an emotional level#you have the very ah Asian coded family who came with nothing but their blue fire and strong spirit#who build a place for themselves AND their community#you get the aging parents who want you to continue with their legacy#that heavy debt on their kid’s shoulders#but also get her missing the meaning of their love and effects on#just#I’m getting emotional thinking about it again#anyway#I made it through the movie and then cried at the bow#so Pixar wins another point for once again making me cry#it’s been a while but they get that one#oh also look at who directed it#this person does?? everything? voice acts animates and now directs?#what can’t they do?#also obviously no shame to anyone who does like whacky adventures with cartoon honking like those are totally fun and cool#I just wasn’t in the mood for that kind of thing at the moment
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More Flatland stuffff~~~
[Cursive transcript: I'm so sorry this is so sudden, but I had to keep my Chosen safe!]
So, uh, the 4th dimension, am I right?????
So, on my last post, people were more interested in A. Tesseract than I thought. I did not expect her to stir so much interest, but here you go lol.
More under the cut lol / lots of notes:
Some basic information on 4th dimensional beings:
They refer to themselves as "hypersolids" and "polytopes". Only Tesseracts prefer a different name than just "hyper(insert shape here)". When talking to other dimensional beings, they call themselves "Spacelanders".
They usually keep their eyes closed, and they do not emote much.
Their bodies naturally morph as they talk. They are also partially transparent, so you can see their inside movements. Not organs or anything, but the next emotions or actions they are going to express. Sort of like key frames or a fade in effect.
They call "Spacelanders" "Heightlanders".
Their civilization is located in space. They are able to breathe through little pockets of air on their rings that recharge when they enter the atmosphere of other plants. (This is why they are spotted relatively frequently)
Buildings are constantly moving spirals. They also fly everywhere, so they require a lot of energy to maintain their health. Luckily, any stars nearby tend to charge them up just fine.
Also, everyone goes by they/them along with another pronoun if they choose. Gender constructs be damned (or certain groups are fighting for that).
There will be more once I think of it, but that's what I have in the world-building department right now.
Some basic information on Angelica "A." Tesseract (she/they):
She tends to say "I'm sorry" after anything they might think could have been of inconvenience or offensive.
They are relatively soft-spoken, but they are incredibly smart compared to her peers.
Her quiet nature causes others to disrespect and step all over her.
She overthinks LITERALLY EVERYTHING. You could tell her something that is even the slightest bit vague and they have the chance of spiraling.
She KNOWS there are more than four dimensions, but they are struggling to prove it with science.
They are much more emotional compared to other hypersolids. They tend to cry easily.
She chose A. Sphere because of his confidence and drive to get his points across. They admire him for that.
Some basic information on A. Sphere in this:
He's much less snarky. His whole vision of the world was destroyed in the blink of an eye, and he's stuck in another world completely unknown to him. He's going though it currently.
He's still blunt about everything. If you suck, he'll tell you. If you are cool, it'll take a little longer, but he'll tell you.
He got his eye busted after the attack on Messiah Inc. When getting removed from "Heightland", his eye got caught in the blow last minute and it got damaged. He can still open it slightly, but he can't see out of it.
He was relatively indifferent to seeing his body transparent. He was more worried about his eye injury over anything else.
At first, he did not like A. Tesseract (cuz kidnapping), but he learns to appreciate the gesture and does his best to help her out.
[Cursive transcript: For now, I'm afraid so... sorry. / I'm so sorry. If I was just a but faster, I could have saved your eye.]
Yeah, their friendship starts out really rough.
A. Sphere adjusted to the environment very poorly at first. He was very standoffish and snappy, but it then soured to just sorta feeling sad all the time. He gets better eventually the more he learns about the world, but it takes a lot of effort out of A. Tesseract to get him there.
I mean, he expected to die, lost his eye, everyone in "Heightland" hates him now, he lost his business and research, and he fails to take the blame for anything for a while. I would also be super pissed and sad.
A. Tesseract was not any better. She feels an incredible amount of guilt for not stepping in in time to prevent A. Sphere's eye damage, and she constantly apologies to him for everything. This sucks for A. Sphere since he finds it super annoying.
[Cursive transcript: N. H.Sphere: You weren't supposed to bring them HERE! / A. Tesseract: I'm sorry, I had to save him- / N. H.Sphere: I should fire you-!]
N. H.Sphere is a mega grouch. He is A. Tesseract's boss who treats her terribly. Discrediting her work, ignoring their research, and just not valuing her opinion cuz women, he is not fun to talk to or just be around in general. No one knows how HR lets him stay in charge, but some theorize that he pays them off or something.
Despite all of the traumatic crap A. Sphere has gone though in this story, he still does not stand for disrespect from anyone. When he learns that A. Tesseract is constantly being pushed around by her bitchy boss, he decides to defend her.
This solidifies their friendship and later science partnership when the story ends. This also makes N. H.Sphere more resentful towards both A. Tesseract an A. Sphere. This leads to A. Tesseract actually getting fired from her job. Thanks A. Sphere.
[Cursive transcript: N. H.Sphere: Why are you so scared? He's fine! / A. Tesseract: It's my un-medicated anxiety!!]
One of the downsides of being in the 4th dimension and living in space is that the gravitational pull is super sporadic with no real patterns. Some areas have super powerful gravity while others have zero. 4th dimension beings have learned to adjust perfectly fine.
The pressure changes and general lack of oxygen negatively impact A. Sphere's body, however, so to help him be okay, he sits in those vacuum boxes that allow for added pressure to be put on him to help even his breathing. He usually isn't put in unless he is fading in and out of consciousness, since he hates the confined space. It freaks out A. Tesseract every time it happens.
Her boss thinks she's stupid for worrying so much and using company tech. A. Tesseract worries more for A. Sphere than keeping her job, so she ignores N. H. Sphere.
[Cursive transcript: Care to see him again?]
Outside of the partial angst and stuff, this dimension is the reason why A. Sphere shows up in A. Square's hallucination.
During A. Square's trauma-induced hallucination, he shows up in the 4th dimension briefly with the Monarch of Pointland. A. Sphere and A. Tesseract take notice, and she offers him the ability to talk to A. Square one last time for closure reasons.
In this version, this scene would be longer, with A. Sphere possibly apologizing for denying the existence of the 4th dimension and not being able to assist A. Square in the way he wanted to. It's more wholesome and conclusive than transactional like in the movie. The other stuff is there too, but having more sentimental moments would be so cool.
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I am very sorry how messy these particular doodles are, I was drawing all these super late at night during my shift, so I was not paying much attention to the flow of the images. When the inspo hits, you don't really realize how incohesive they are until you start photographing the images to post lol
Thank you once again for reading this whole thing, and have a wonderful day :)
#once again i apologize for the terrible camera quality#i really hope this is cohesive enough#i got my siblings to and dad to watch flatland#this would be a win if they didn't fall asleep 🙄#except for one of them but they thought it was too weird#uncultured#stupid ass au i made b/c i can't cope with my favorite character dying like a normal person#anyways im really starting to enjoy a tesseract and the story she can tell#i don't think anyone has made a character that acknowledges that there are multiple dimensions without experiencing the horrors#so i think im original in that aspect lol#if not please tell me so the two can meet and complain about society and geek out about science or something#flatland#flatland 2007#flatland the movie#a square#a sphere#a tesseract#flatland oc#flatland fan art#katiekatdragon27
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Anyway, the issue where the Teen Titans meet the four horsemen of the apocalypse might be the strangest thing I've ever read like, first they crash their bus, and then they run across this little shack with a blacksmith, right?
And this dude is all, I've got some horseshoes to fix but I'll fix your bus later. And he has like the funkiest looking horses ever or something but sure, they agree.
Then plot happens and they end up in this fictional country and when Wally tries to prevent a slaughter from happening, the first horsemen, War, knocks him out. And this is only very subtly references with Robin saying "War is stupid!"
Then after that, they try to get (read: steal) some food for some rebels who are being starved, but Famine, the second horsemen, burns away all the food. Lilith (of course) makes the connection and announcement that what they were seeing/meeting, but Robin doesn't buy it (which incidentally is hilarious because Robin was one of the quickest to believe Lilith when she said she was Juliet's reincarnation).
Anyway, so they meet and fail to stop the third horsemen, plague.
And finally, faced with death, they actually finally succeed! They rescue some refugees and beat death!! (Also giving us the hilarious panel with Robin saying "Get the child, Flasher!" which wasn't funny then but is kind of funny now with our use of the term flasher T.T)
Whether or not they do beat death does end up being kind of debatable because death then kills their friend, but these two specifically do not die.
And finally, when they get back to the blacksmith guy, he fixed their bus, and claims he hasn't done blacksmithing in 30 years and the forge has not been lit since then, BUT Wally does fine a hot ember in the fireplace so... WHAT? (Also, Wally zooming around secretly to check on stuff and/or change stuff happening since forever lmao)
Anyway, I don't really know where I'm going with this, it's just SUCH a strange story but also I recall someone mentioning the Sins of Youth lowkey making the Titans immortal and I'm just thinking about how this story could conceivably be made to tie in to that since they successfully evaded Death at the very least which is fun to think about so do with that what you will!
#dick grayson#wally west#donna troy#roy harper#mal duncan#lilith clay#robin#kid flash#wonder girl#speedy#teen titans#mypost#dc thought#many thoughts actually#do you think they talk about it after every once in a while especially when they are older and more aware of potential implications?#donna: hey remember the time we maybe met the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse and then never saw them again i'm not making that up right#wally: oh i remember#*they all sit in silence around the sofa contemplating while a movie nobody is watching anymore plays in the background*
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