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AMAZON PRIME DID NOT JUST HAVE THE AUDACITY TO TRY AND AUTOPLAY THE PILOT OF SUPERNATURAL AFTER THE END OF GOMENS S2???
since when do autoplay algorithms commit hate crimes
#is this the fucking gay angel cinematic universe#(a subsection of the wider BCU)#wait no. they aren't part of the bible cinematic universe#they're like... bible fanon#bible AU fics#GOOD OMENS S2 IS A BIBLE COFFEESHOP AU#wow i am. embarrassingly bad at holding my alcohol#good omens#good omens 2#gomens#gomens 2#gomens s2#supernatural
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Me, once again infected with The Terror brain worms: I have so many feeling about AMCs The Terror 😔
#the video essay that exists in my brain is so good. if only i knew how to video edit lol#its mostly just talking abt god in the landscape which i have so so many feelings abt#the comments im getting on the goodsir thing i posted this weeked r making me insane#like i feel the emotion in that scene so deeply inside me that its baffling that ppl r surprised by it. in a good way tho i suppose#like in a: i am grabbing ur face so u can stare into thr light thats blinding me#i just have so many feelings abt harry goodsir. and the show. and the landscape#about nature being laced with the devine. except im not religious. but also they're feeling so big i have to seek out religious text to put#them in context. not me reading thr bible to talk abt a horror show abt a bunch of old dead white me#everyday i get closer and closer to having insane opinions on the Christian religion but in like a literature way. like a fanon way#jesus. y am i like this? if i was religious id b a fucking unhinged#unrelated#terror ramblings#also i wish i took more time on the landscape image on the goodsir post 😭 its killing me
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the show chb logo was also ripped from fandom, like in the past decade all the official chb shirt had the logo without the circle and then the fandom started doing and the show went for it, sorry your tags reminded me of that
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Yeah, I know Delphi Strawberry Service has done more circular-based CHB shirt designs for ages, and I've seen the more circular-based designs floating around for awhile. I think Magicbysab's circular-based CHB shirt designs also predate the show design? Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I understand on a level that if they did base it off fandom designs, particularly if they're basing anything on widespread fanon or fandom-based concepts, it can be difficult to pin down credit or may even seen unnecessary. But if they're going to be doing that I feel like at least they could hire like, a fandom consultant of sorts? Instead of just ripping off from the fandom, hire someone from the community who produces that already so at least there's some recognition and acknowledgement of where it originated.
Heck, in some instances if you ask around in the fandom it's not hard to pinpoint who specifically popularized certain concepts! I could talk for ages about Cherryandsisters being a driving force behind photokinesis!Will, or Saberghatz with plague!Will (tbh between the two they spearheaded a ton of early Will/Solangelo fanon), and I swear Drksanctuary alone is behind like 50% of Alabaster fanon, etc etc etc. People in the fandom know these things! Heck, we know ReadRiordan company knows how to do that kind of thing! They commissioned Viria for the official art, and the UK Riordan newsletter reaches out to fans all the time to feature their work (with credit, they're one of the better ones)! Though in Rick's book tours he did showcase Viria's art (at least with credit) without asking before she got commissioned, and during the Tower of Nero book tours they actually straight up stole a solangelo edit from Pervysloth with completely zero credit (link is to my canon url readriordan parody blog).
I think it doesn't help as well that Rick and his editor allegedly use the fandom wiki in place of a series bible. The PJO wiki is notorious for putting inaccurate information or fanon onto pages at random and having no sources. (What I wouldn't give for the PJO wiki to have frequent book/page sources a la Warrior Cats wiki...) There are what, now almost 18 books in the main series alone? Of an extremely renowned best-selling series that's 20 years old and now being adapted for TV? And they STILL don't have a series bible? That's like, step 1 of writing a series. This kind of reliance of the fandom for resources and concepts definitely isn't new for them.
It just feels so bizarre as to what it says about how the ReadRiordan company views the fandom and the creatives within it. I understand that trying to figure out how to give credit to the concept of "CHB shirt design, but circular!" is difficult, if you even can find out who did that first or popularized it. But if you're going to rip things from fandom, at least find somebody to try and credit? Show that you put in even the tiniest amount of effort? And if you get it wrong and people know, they'll correct you and that's that! But ReadRiordan just keeps trying to actively obscure these kinds of things, even with their own media, not ripped from the fandom, which makes it feel all the worse when it gets pointed out. And a lot of the time the whole reason those concepts get popular is because they're filtered through big names in the fandom! The fandom is a community! We know these people! We can point to them and explain exactly what they popularized! Remember how Velinxi popularized long haired Piper with the heart-shaped flyaways? Goodness only knows how many fandom designs are heavily influenced by Viria and Minuiko and Burdge (and Indigonite and Fuocogo and Ikimaru and Thecottonproject and Joker-ace and Sixofclovers and Vikingmera and Saber and Cherry and and and-). If you are in the community this stuff is easy to find. But Rick and the ReadRiordan company clearly being ~5 years behind with fanon pretty obviously tells me that they're not in the community at all, and aren't bothering trying.
#riordanverse#pjo#readriordan#pjo tv crit#rr crit#Anonymous#ask#long post //#sorry i am passionate about fandom history and crediting artists#its late and im too lazy to proofread right now so im just throwing this one out there#apologies if it's nonsensical#anyways Rick and ReadRiordan stop ripping off literally everyone challenge#stares pointedly at Rick blatantly recycling his own writing. its not a fun callback my guy thats just lazy writing#percy making a dam joke to himself in SoN? cute callback#solangelo falling into tartarus scene in TSATS being a direct rip of percabeth in MoA/HoH? what the hell man
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I know we all hate Fandom Wiki when it comes to it's usage as an actual wiki for various media because the website design is dog shit, but I feel like we need to at least respect it for it's role as a complete Wild West for 8 year olds on the internet to create elaborate fanons for their ideas about theoretical reboots and spinoffs and video game tie-ins of random kids shows. They're out there making full show bibles and scripts and 5 year business plans for their spin-offs of Fairly Oddparents and Veggietales for no one but themselves, just as god intended the internet to be used for. We need to design a better website for them to put this shit on because it's a shame that Fandom has a stranglehold on the market of entire wikis made exclusively for things that are entirely made up and only exist in the brains of like 3 random kids on the internet.
#i do not mean this to make fun of the children and adults who do this btw. live your best life.#but sometimes i stumble upon these things in Google search results and i go down a rabbit hole for hours just reading a random persons wiki#the only problem i have with it is that sometimes google will give me fandom wiki links as Real Search Results#which is usually fine if it's a popular wiki but sometimes it just gives me entirely made up shit#like the time i googled what the name of Timmy Turners dad was and it gave me what was basically a random name#because apparently the only result it could find where someone answered this question was a fandom wiki#for someone's deep and convoluted Fairly Oddparents theoretical reboot canon. like there were multiple show ideas and spinoffs#whole episode plots were written with episode counts and seasons and show development history#all of it entirely made up. did not exist in real life.#i respect the dedication but Google this is how misinformation spreads.
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dungeon meshi fandom rant
i usually stay away from fictional autism headcanons or indulging in them wholesale because i'm more on the 'characters are constructs' side of things. some may exhibit traits we relate to but placing real-world diagnostic labels on walking metaphors makes things too nebulous. however laios touden is an exception to me since autism allegories are pretty hard-wired into both his arc and dungeon meshi's core themes. so for once the fandom autism memes feel genuine to me lol. it doesn't feel as fanon-heavy or platitudinous, actually it's pretty uplifting. i appreciate the positivity.
that being said the most dogshit dunmesh take i've seen lately is the assertion that laios and falin show us autistic men are villified for things autistic women are accepted for. the fuck are you people smoking? some rebranded MRA-pilled bullshit? log off tumblr and go outside, then point and show me where this is the truth. i don't know if you guys are all living in a feminist utopia that i'm not privy too, but if so send me the address because things couldn't be less like that everywhere i've ever been.
countless times i've been told 'oh you're exactly like a female copy of [socially inept male friend/co-worker/family member who shares my personality] and then i gotta watch them get special treatment as i get left behind and scolded for not being normal enough. him being blunt is rebellious & brutally honest, me being blunt is just being a b*tch with no filter. how many times do you see autistic women reaching high positions of power and being revered as a misunderstood genius.
how about everyone reminding us to 'be nice' to the supposedly harmless awkward guy who keeps making sexual comments & invading our boundaries because he can't help it apparently. but strangely enough, i have gone my whole life without creeping on others. only to be called creepy and off-putting by these same social equality preachers for not applying makeup or styling my hair right. autistic women are more likely to be sexually harrassed and/or abused than neurotypical women and no one gaf (let's b real they don't care when it happens to neurotypical women either if the man has a good enough sob story.) shit like walking strangely, having a speech impediment and talking too much about esoteric topics was enough to be outcasted for us. once more, with feeling: what are you people smoking?
and critically, falin is pretty. she's conventionally pure, self-sacrificial, beautiful with hollywood curves, soft-spoken, and never questions anyone nor asserts herself over others when her needs aren't being met. her dislikes in the adventurer's bible are 'nothing in particular', she never spoke out against her village's bullying even when she had it worse than laios, quickly forgives her parents for exiling her, and never shows any opinion on marcille's use of dark magic. she's a paragon of femininity. anything less than that, and she would probably invoke similar if not more disgust from her peers than laios through the audacity of not conforming to gender expectations. but she likes holding bugs or whatever so...whoa! she's so feral and subversive amiright guys. but crucially she looks cute while doing it so we're not too uncomfortable to stan.
i love laios so much, he's in my newest blorbo collection for sure but calling the female characters who don't like him judgemental is not a good look. we as the readers who have been inside the main chara's head know he's a good guy - but in the context of dungeon meshi's world, where sexism is as prevalent as stranger danger, it's fair for them to assume bad intent and keep their distance. they're looking out for their own safety and you're mad about that because, what, it makes your 2D nigel sad? cry about it.
so quit using anime characters as fodder for your thinly-veiled 'everyday men milk themselves' preaches. the touden siblings are not a good example of this. if you unironically agree with that take: it's time to go talk to some real women broski.
#EVERYDAY MEN MILK THEMSELVES !!! laios wishes smh#i criticise falin's treatment because i think she has potential & deserves more autonomy beyond her chimera form#the hype cannot convince me she's much more than a lucy westerna archetype :( but that's a whole essay for another day#so it's unfair to use her as 'proof' the woman is treated better when she upholds high standards of what we should be to deserve acceptance#and from that meta lens the cast's love becomes conditional; it hinges on her continued passivity
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Hi I saw that you answered an ask* the other day and I wanted to know if you continued with your analysis or if you could continue. I was really interested and curious to know more about it. I really wanted to know what you had to say, seriously, I could read a bible of Death Stranding reviews!
*https://www.tumblr.com/myaoiboy/739740134244794368/death-stranding-gender-talk-you-say-count-me-in?source=share
Hi! I totally can keep talking about Death Stranding forever (I know it's a very divisive game but imo on the whole the writing is like a well-oiled machine in ways that MGS just barely started to scrape askdjfh)
For the most part I haven't talked a *ton* about it at length because the series is just getting started and I feel weird making assertions that are likely to be fully subverted within a year or two. MGS has like. well, now, 25 years of shit going on. Sequels, prequels, fanon, etc., that Death Stranding...hasn't really had time to grow into yet.
I also tend to intentionally only post for dead series because the fandoms tend to be chiller lmao
Plus the fact that I got into DS right around the time that DS2 was announced, so I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs knowing that there's about to be more content and context that I just don't have access to yet. I already feel like there's a lot more to be learned about the first game, just from the latest trailer drop.
Honestly I think the thing that really gets me with DS is that despite the borderline insanity of the setting, to me, there's a lot of dramatic irony and meta knowledge that makes DS pretty easy to follow compared to, like, any single MGS game. Maybe I'm just the exact target audience that the writing was intended for, but most of the big reveals felt less like a sucker punch and more of a dramatic swell.
Some reasons for this (please be gentle i am taking cutscene SCs from youtube videos, they're gonna look like shit):
First of all, this is basically frame 1 of being formally introduced to Amelie, we see...this lens flare. Look familiar?
...how about now?
We are introduced to her instantly with a sign of danger. A pretty one, but a sign of danger nonetheless. The fact that it's an inverted rainbow is important! It shows up around timefall because of chiral air disturbance. We don't know that yet in-game, but if you know about how light works you know that there's something Wrong(tm) about this.
A regular lens flare shouldn't be causing an inverted rainbow if it's causing one at all. I think in this cutscene Amelie's presence is causing that inverted rainbow. Throughout the game, people come up with various theories of their own to excuse her connection to the beach. Little do they know at the time how right they are...
She's also heavily backlit, which hides her features in an unsettling manner. In fact, I really can't think of anyone else that this happens to throughout the game (if anyone knows of another example PLEASE let me know!!!)
She gets pretty damn close before that rainbow disappears, but this is where I very quickly lost my initial trust in her (as the player).
I jokingly called called this her "Fox News reporter look," but it's very much constructed in a way that made me suspicious.
Let's talk about that red dress.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Kojima fucking LOVES using color language, especially red, blue, and gold. It's been super obvious and explicit since like 2012.
The fact that we meet her wearing a red dress is not a coincidence!!! It's a great big flashing warning sign! It says "hey, this person is going to betray you! Do Not Fucking Trust!!!"
Compare Amelie's name card to Paz's from Peace Walker:
The art styles are different, but there are a couple of main throughlines. Namely, both have an emphasis on the color red, both are young (looking) women who are lying about their identities in order to ask the main character a favor. Characters vouch for them, from trusted advisors, to the main character himself in DS. And then they try to bring about armageddon.
Basically what I'm saying is that they're both the embodiment of white woman tears a wolf in sheep's clothing, if the sheep's clothing was still dripping in blood. We (characters, and maybe the players) believe that she's on our side because we want to believe she's on our side, and because other people that we ostensibly trust tell us she's on our side, while the extremely dissonant narrative and imagery of the scene are SHAKING US BY THE SHOULDERS TELLING US TO SNAP OUT OF IT.
Add to that the fact that we kind of vaguely, through that intro cutscene post-central knot explosion, know that the beach is connected to dying somehow, and that amelie seems to be on it, doing very stereotypical little girl in horror things there, like singing nursery rhymes slowly while walking into the ocean.
So we've basically been told that Amelie is Not Good, but we have to spend the game piecing together what kind of Not Good she is. The first hint is (surprise!) also in this cutscene!
I don't recall off the top of my head if I knew at the time how heavily egyptian mythology plays into DS, but I do remember this cutscene giving me a bad gut feeling about the concept of the West.
Very few Big Concepts in these games (the West, strand(s/ing), patriotism/nationalism, etc) are only symbolic of one thing. That's also true across the board in basically all art, but I feel the need to point that out in public posts because I don't want someone to eg, think that I say something means one thing, and then back that up, and then people think that means it can't mean something else! It can (and often does) mean both! and sometimes that additional meaning is super important!
Anyways, Die Hardman refers to Amelie going West. We don't really use that phrasing much, so it stuck out to me as euphemistic. Especially since we saw her after we died, and there's so much euphemism going on from the bridges team anyways. I mean, cufflinks "symbolize our connection?" Girl, you locked me to my bed with them. You drain my blood with them to turn into weapons. Call 'em what they are.
You'll even notice in the same cutscene that Amelie says "we made it to Edge Knot City" and Sam replies with "all the way to the Pacific?" Not "all the way to the west coast," or even a single question about why she was on the/his beach.
If you know anything about egyptian mythology, you might know that west is considered the direction of death and the underworld. ancient egyptians buried dead people on the west side of the nile river. Osiris, god of death and mummification, and king of the underworld, is referred to as "foremost of the westerners" among his epithets.
So the vibe that I got instantly was "Amelie is already dead, she led her team to die, and they are basically sending Sam on a suicide mission" though I didn't realize exactly how I was right at the time.
The other big thing I recall setting off my alarm bells as the game went on was the fact that nobody you meet has ever met Amelie in person. It's a very slow reveal, especially since most people seem to see online meeting and in person meeting to be mostly the same, and we're told that she set out with bridges one. That she went west. Turns out that...also wasn't literal.
I don't remember exactly when I started wondering if *sam* had ever even met her outside of the beach, but I do remember thinking that there was something off. For a little bit my guess was that she was entirely fictional, some sort of AI (pretty influenced by all the "dead person brought back by AI/hypno bullshit ngl), or maybe that Higgs could somehow disguise himself in the Beach in ways i didn't understand yet.
But I didn't feel *worse* for being able to figure things out ahead of time, I felt clever that I could piece together all the little hints and have a good idea of what was going on. It made death stranding feel more like a coherent sci fi narrative rather than a cheesy action story that's expected to follow certain strict genre conventions.
Not that I'm saying mgs or action in general are bad, but rather that imo Death Stranding feels...more mature and confident in some ways (and also isn't bogged down by 20 years of previous work. which. i don't even like my own shit from a year ago half the time, i cannot imagine having to write within the constraints you created TWO DECADES prior kjhksjfh). Maybe it's that it feels like less of a genre subversion and has more genre utilization? dunno. Now I'm thinking too much like an english major lkajshdf
But yeah anybody who wants to talk about anything totally feel free. Or if you want to give me prompts to write about. I will always be willing to talk about things for way too long on the internet. I just don't always reply quickly because I start rambling....Like This.
#oops this got long#death stranding#samantha america “amelie” strand#amelie ds#analysis or something#anon ask
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I don't want to pick a fight with the OP, but that post you reblogged about how "Tim is the most like Bruce" just highlights how bad the problem is with people taking explicit aspects of Cass' character, and assigning them to the boys in order to prop them up. The OP concluded "well maybe the can share being the most like Bruce", when you posted a literal actual panel of Tim saying "You are like Bruce. I'm not".
They then said, with regards to their earlier "Cass is actually more like Babs" statement, "I don't know much about canon Cass and Babs, only fanon". It's so frustrating to constantly see people who have never read a Cass comic mischaracterize her again and again in order to make the boys look better and more interesting. "Damian should actually be as good of a fighter as Cass" "Jason and Cass would respect each other" "Tim and Cass are equally like Bruce" they don't care! I'm so tired of people pretending to care about Cass for brownie points when they only mention her so they can make their male fav look better.
I think they're even aware of how bad it looks to constantly exclude Bruce's only (current canon) daughter, who is also Asian and disabled, from their overwhelmingly white and male cast of favorites, so they do this weird token effort to pretend they care about her in order to win progressive brownie points and it's just exhausting. It's so transparent. The batfam fandom is so disconnected from canon it produces this racist, watered down version of Cass, and because they never read the comics this is all they get exposed to, and they use that to create even more racist, watered down versions of her.
It's so frustrating. It's fine to not read a comic, it's fine to not care about a character, but if you haven't read her comics and you don't care about her character, stop posting about her and pretending to be any authority on the subject.
At least I don't think OP meant any harm in that case. I prefer to save my frustration for the actually toxic people like with that Damian post you mentioned. I feel you though, Cass is in the awkward position of being a disabled Asian girl in a fandom where (let's face it) a massive proportion of the people on this website are here exclusively to fangirl for pretty white boys so they aren't about to actually take an interest in her. The rub being they also like to think of themselves as progressive so they can't just outright exclude her like they clearly want to. The result is their attempts to pretend to care generally come with about as much authenticity as that one time someone asked Donald Trump to name his favorite bible passage.
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genuine question, how much of The Actual Show rizzoli and isles like, open to the idea of rizzles? Like I adore all of your fics, and I would watch *that* show, but how much of it is fanon vs queerbait vs subtext vs actual canon?
Season 1-4 it genuinely looks like they're headed for a Rizzles endgame. Season 5 is ok but they're taking a step back. Season 6 and 7 they're strangers that are sometimes in the same room. The showrunner changed then and only watched the first and last episodes of the preceding seasons - which were heavy on how much these two women loved and relied on each other, so I don't know why so much went wrong there.
Some of it's scripted, some of it's not. But it's not in the good-natured Xena way of 'oh they're together but the studio won't let us show that so we get around the censors' way. It's 'suburban housewives were our target audience but Sasha and Angie can't keep their hands off each other and now most of our audience is lesbians'.
There was a really great recap on AfterEllen but all the pictures have been taken down. But the genuine chemistry the actresses had in those first few seasons is worth watching. This is the ship that launched a hundred fics for me. In the first run people must have been watching and waiting for something to happen and it never did.
They didn't need to be endgame. They just needed to be something other than strangers in the last two seasons.
So it's a weird show; there's no series bible, no two seasons carry the same vibe, one season is straight-up slapstick. There's plot holes in the backstories and the pets get fridged. Watching Bones really highlights how seat-of-the-pants Rizzoli and Isles was.
But despite all that:
Totally Gratuitous, Totally Gay Touching
Righteous Ponytail of Justice
Sasha Alexander in every outfit
Angie Harmon not knowing what a tomboy is and just standing and sitting in the most homosexual of ways
Senior Criminalist Susie Chang is gold in every scene
Hurt/Comfort
All of the above are good reasons to watch the show, but the hurt/comfort is paramount. Terrible things happen to these women, and season 1-4 they generally end up alone at home together curled up on the couch comforting each other.
Quick warning: season 1 is darker and probably better in terms of plot and cohesion. I rank the show seasons 4, 2, 3, 1, 5, 6, 7.
And now, more evidence of the TGTGT:
I'm not going to try to convince someone to watch a 2010 show with no payoff in 2023 when we have better shows. But it has its place in the queer hall of fame for a reason.
And the show for its time did okay. They did have murdering lesbians, but they also had lesbians mums, and lesbian colleagues. They had a transgender judge that was treated with respect when they figured it out as part of their investigation. It hasn't aged poorly in that sense. The show had a lot of potential, and it flopped when they veered away from the subtext. But as a studio that was a risk they had to take - I doubt they had many male audiences and even now most shows still cater to that demographic. So for a show that really was about women - two women that were very close - to do so well, it had to do certain things. But the show had so much potential that never came to fruition.
One last thing - the books themselves are completely different. The characters share the same names and live in Boston, but that's about the end of the similarities. Tess Gerritsen herself seems very tickled and amused by the fact that this bizarre show exists and that she has a cult lesbian following because of it, and I love her for that and I love that for her. If you ever do watch season 7, she has a cameo in an episode which is precious.
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Do you have any tips for writing Carlisle? For example, episodes from his work, human life, or something else?
General Writing Advice
Personally, I find writing scenes without purpose extremely difficult/not producing the best results. Obviously, everyone's unique, but if the characters don't have anything to do then they tend to just sit around not having anything to do.
Even something like a one-shot should have a point (reflection on an event, relationship, etc.).
So taking an episode from his work, human life, or anything else without asking the question "why am I showing this" or "what point am I trying to make" to me is the wrong way to approach it.
If you want the character to do something, he should have something to do.
Writing Characters in General
Once again we get into the weird realm of how I personally write the man versus how everyone else might. There's a lot of interpretations of Carlisle across fandom and even if I don't agree with all of them based on what we see in the text, none of them are wrong. Fandom's about having fun which means you can do whatever the fuck you want.
If movie Carlisle is your game, go for it, if fanon Carlisle's your man, go for it.
The trick with any character is to be consistent. You should have an understanding of them such that if X happens you know they'd respond with Y. This keeps the story from feeling contrived and as if they're being forced to react in whatever way the author wants them to.
If you keep it consistent and you write well then readers won't really care if it lines up with their exact interpretation of the character.
Tips on Writing Carlisle
A lot on Carlisle Cullen in here
However, I assume you came to my house for a reason and that you're asking specifically how to characterize Carlisle Cullen in the way that I and @therealvinelle do.
So, I'll give the general roundup characterization advice we've given for other characters in the past (thus far Aro and Lily Evans).
Carlisle is Religious
Carlisle is fundamentally a religious character. This is brought up in canon and is one of the first things you learn about him: he believes in God.
Now, this one is also very tricky as I've seen a lot of writers having no idea where to even start with this. Most writers I see... the only way I can describe it is they write a very Catholic, flagellating, God-fearing Carlisle Cullen. This is how writers in general write any religious character. That's fine, that is a way to interpret his character, but it's not what @therealvinelle and I go for.
Our thoughts are that Carlisle had to do a lot of philosophizing after becoming a vampire and essentially has his own doctrine. Because of this, out of the Cullens, he's one of the least haunted by what he is personally (a vampire) and is not necessarily married to interpretations of the bible we see in either the past or even the modern day. (The man canonically advocates abortion).
Regardless of how you choose to interpret him, you have to address the religion in some way or another.
Carlisle Thinks a Lot
We're talking about a guy who did the above section (rethink his religion) upon becoming a demon. He had large problems (such as trying not to eat people) and yet this is something he spends significant time and thought on.
We're talking about a very introspective guy then who is interested by abstract ideas and the way the world works. (As opposed to Emmett who would have no interest in such things).
This is probably not going to apply just to religion but to a lot of other facets including "should I turn dying people into vampires" (something he canonically confesses pondering to Bella), "what the fuck is up with Renesmee biologically" (less esoteric but still a very nerd topic with no real answers until Nahuel comes around).
Not to mention pre-canon his regard for the Volturi who were probably the most learned of the vampires he ever came across.
Carlisle is noted to have pursued several different fields before settling on becoming a doctor.
We're talking about someone very curious about the world, to the point where he's clearly not bored/moping after 350 years (as opposed to Edward who's only been doing this 100 years and is a brooding bored mess).
He's someone who wants to do things, learn things, and be a part of the world and keep up with it.
Carlisle's Way or the Highway
Canonically, Edward had to leave when he left the diet. Granted, Edward chose to do this of his own accord, but Carlisle didn't chase him down or try to negotiate with him.
You either try to do the diet to the best of your ability or you're out.
Edward was already a very close companion of Carlisle, Carlisle had broken down after three hundred years of loneliness, not to mention Edward was very distressed and very young: didn't matter.
What this says that is for better or worse Carlisle will stick to his principles even if those closest around him do not.
An important note on this is because of this Carlisle assumes that his family, those around him, share the exact same principles even if they do not (for all the Cullens think that they share them as well). It's unthinkable to him, even in canon where he sees evidence now and then, that they don't actually care that much for human life and more the Cullen lifestyle and moral superiority of it all.
He's Ridiculously Stubborn
We're talking about someone who crawled into rotting potatoes while dying, managing to stay silent, then crawling his way out of London without eating anyone and spending the next N days trying to kill himself until he crawled into the woods to starve painfully to death.
He discovers the animal diet, lives on cardboard for the rest of his life despite having a few morsels of blood here and there as he starts turning people, even when Aro's literally dropping corpses on the floor in front of him.
He then leaves Volterra despite having no idea where he's going, a good chance of getting killed, all for the chance that he might find someone on the diet or convince someone to do it.
He is unbelievably stubborn to the point where... Edward and Bella are close contenders but Carlisle's doing very well in the stubborn race himself.
The exception is that he compromises when it comes to his family/things that don't just affect him. In Twilight, he wants to move when it's clear Bella's Edward's singer and the van incident occurs. Nobody else wants to move though and Alice announces Edward's in love with Bella so... they stay... he guesses... In the Bella/Edward relationship, like everyone else, he lets Edward handle that one as it's not really his business.
He's Very Likeable
Everybody likes Carlisle. To a really weird extent actually, and by far he's the most outwardly charming of the Cullens.
Otherwise
You got anything else, @therealvinelle
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I'm thinking about Bugettes
And how they would fit into my personal fanon
I love the designs on the right, and though I wouldn't want to have too much superheroes, it would be neat if they were a separate group from Quantic Kids and did their own thing (maybe they could be antiheroes or rivals?). I think it would fit with that early concept where there aren't akumas, just kwamis that can help people fulfill whatever wish they want, whether it's good or bad.
For personalities, I kinda mashed the descriptions from 2012 bibles with my own headcanons.
I want Chloe to like, actually be popular. To be the kind of person who can sweet-talk people into doing what she wants instead of just threatening them. Actually, I'm kinda picturing this girl. And I want her to be a fashion rival to Bri/Mari. She might not be academically smart but she's not stupid.
The whole "she wants to date Felix even though she doesn't actually like him" thing can stay but I'm also making her gay. I just like the idea that she looked at all pretty rich boys and specifically chose the one that doesn't like her to have a "crush" on. Also I kinda imagine her as Allegra's cousin maybe.
Sabrina... The way she's described makes her sound different to canon Sabrina, with elements of Lila's personality. I don't know if I want to give different names to concept Chloe and Alix, but I nicknamed her Sybil in my head.
I'm picturing her as a strict class rep with a soft spot for Chloe, a reporter and Alya's rival. More snarky and introverted in reality, but she tries to be more like Chloe because she wants people to like her, and she doesn't see herself as that interesting on her own.
And then Alix joins the group and starts shaking up their dynamic. Chloe tries to show her how to be more feminine, but Alix soon realises that's not what she actually wants. And actually, they're not a girl or a boy, for that matter. But she still likes Chloe's confidence and bonds with Sybil too.
I want her to be sort of friends with Felix as well. They might be different and hang out in different groups, but still find themselves awkwardly bonding because neither of them really fit in. Also I headcanon them both as aspec and trans. This is them to me (except Alix is agender). Chloe is a bit jealous of them hanging out, but for different reasons than she thinks.
Anyway
They're a messy polycule to me (two lesbian girls and one smol aroace agender menace)
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uncommon (?) hc time. upon rewatching some of the og series and reboot ive become fairly certain that the warners (even the youngest) are, in fact, inteded to be teens. in this bulleted list i will
no but really
when i was younger i used to think 'huh these kids act weird for their age sometimes. its like theyre not even really little kids.' as much as i coo over their cute shenanigans, i can't really see them as anything 12 or under?
the warners are all at least teens. here's why
[youtube countdown video intro music]
their ages are never actually explicity stated in canon
their heights are pretty much meaningless. the tiny toons cast are meant to be teens yet are often half or even a third the size of bugs bunny. he's also small for the record, like many other adult toons
playing child or childish roles on the in-universe show is similarly meaningless. older kids/teens are easier to direct than younger ones (though the warners are difficult at times lol)
they constantly break character and the fourth wall in ways that betray older sensibilities, taste, and knowledge
having pitched-up voices isn't an age-specific thing for toons
in the reboot their voices aren't even pitch-shifted, making them sound older
the teen-level potty humor and dirty jokes (do you remember being 13? i do. if you think some of the innuendos in animaniacs are bad, i can guarantee you real middle schoolers were/are far worse)
wakko drinking grog. his 'liquorice' [liquor-ish] problem. also stating he'd 'try anything once' (bet he enjoyed woodstock lol)
i think people mistake wakko's wackiness and earnesty for stupidity and youthful ignorance. fanon really flattens him to just being 'the dumb cute puppy' sometimes
i don't think a case really needs to be made for yakko. he's the archetypal teenage boy character in many ways
dot is just as bad as her brothers LMAO
the warners all flirt like teens
they've referenced going on 'serious' dates before
literally just watch the show. what 9-11 year olds consistently act like that lmao
this part of the series bible (which as a whole i don't consider entirely canon but the bible is obviously is the basis of the entire og series)
personally, i dont care what tom said in that podcast episode. i relistened to the part where he claims they're '9, 11, 14' or whatever and it sounded like he threw those numbers out on the spot LOL. the actual show gives an entirely different impression imo
not to mention its boring always being beholden to word of god
[as a sidenote, the hc that the warners are actually fully grown adults playing children is really fucking funny to me. imagine being a dwarf toon, sounding like chip and dale's chipmunk voices, and you run around the rest of your immortality getting away with murder because everything thinks you're a cute kid. like baby from WFRR but rubberhose. big 'woman who played a 9-year old in orphan first kill' energy too]
in the end it doesnt matter a ton to me? im still gonna play around with their ages in fic like always. this new teen hc mostly informed how i see wakko and dot now, because they start making a lot more sense in my head
ive also started taking a liking to the 'wakko and dot are twins' headcanon but that's for another post
#delete later probably#i actually dont know how popular this hc is#and i dont care cause its mine now#so if youre gonna be rude abt it i suggest u go somewhere lol
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Re 4806
I agree #4806 partionally. My fandom demanded excessive screen time for certain characters (they're not protags) a few years ago. The canon seems to have taken such a demand to an unreasonable level. Ofc I don't like the canon's acceptance.
Hmm, but, If I were in the position of the fans at the time, I could relate to their hearts. I can make fanon of characters with less screen time. In the end, however, I feel disappointed that is fanon. I won't be able to recreate that vibe of canon even if I make expies of canon characters.
This is not the Bible, nor is it SCP Foundation. It is a work that was created in modern times and only authors have the right to disclose. My last name isn't Hussie.
Posting as a response to a previous problem.
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every time i see a post where someone is being pretentious about "media literacy"/shitting on fanon & headcanons/telling people they're interpreting media "wrong" i now just read it like it's about the bible and everything is ok
#and then i block op <3#“media literacy” in quotes bc people like to use it to say “if you didn't interpret this show in a way i like you must be stupid”#i'm soooo tired#fandom is a sandbox and people can do whatever they want#there is exactly 0 value to making broad statements telling people they're wrong and bad#for enjoying something in a different way than you are#someone interpreting media differently than u doesn't harm you or erase the media altogether i prommy#ness talks#vent //
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I worry because there's so many different characterizations out there of the Puffs and ESPECIALLY the Ruffs that I don't really know how to tackle things. A lot of these characterizations can be contradictory too in a way I don't really see much in other fan works for media since there's so little to go off even when they're super prominent in works. You'd think that would give you more freedom but it makes things more nerve wracking. Honestly it makes me wish more than ever that this fanbase had more people I could exchange ideas with like it used to. Fandom is pretty dead now so I'm left navigating mostly in the dark outside of reading other fanfic and deciding what I like and (more often) dislike as opposed to really being able to talk to people one on one.
I think lastly, my interpretations of the ppg and rrb can divert a lot from traditional fanon interpretations. The Ruffs a lot more so than the Puffs.
Those are all very valid worries. It sounds like you’ve got some novel ideas for your fic—definitely not cookie cutter—so it’s completely reasonable to be nervous about “how you’re doing.”
But i guess my question is, why do you care? I’m not saying this to be discouraging! If it’s a dead fandom, the few people left are going to look at any new content they get, and if they don’t like it, they simply move on! Their loss. If your interpretations are so novel or new, and other fics can’t help you tackle your characterization issues, then you can fuck it up as much as you want and no one will know the difference. You can play around with all sorts of characterizations. You’re not boxed into one fic idea, you can take what you like and disregard what you don’t, and that’s the freedom of creative writing. You can do whatever you want!
It’s nice to bounce ideas off of someone, but in small, deadish fandoms, a lot of the time, you’re just chilling with yourself. That’s the name of the game. But I think I like that feeling of freedom. Other fandoms have too many voices that drown out the actually interesting stuff. In the small ones, you find stuff made by passionate weirdos and their always absolute gems. If you do want to talk to someone in a small fandom, you’ve got to be brave and *do it*. It will always go 100% better than you likely expect!
Like tell me anon, what’s going on in your fic? What are you stuck on? Just drop a link in my dm to your fic and I stg I’ll read it and give honest feedback if that’s what you’re looking for. I’m writing a pretty hefty legal brief rn for work, and probably wouldn’t be able to get to a fic until this weekend, but I’m down to help. I just need people to put things in front of me or work pushes them from my mind 🫠
Also from a practicable, writing standpoint:
1) It sounds like you may need a character bible. If you’re overwhelmed, I’d devote time to just dump drafting character concepts and organizing them into something manageable. A lot of writing isn’t the actual writing, but the outlining. A sound outline will make you feel more comfortable.
2) Shorter chapters will help too. The less there is, the more time you’ll likely devote to editing.
#irl I work as a first year attorney so I get my ass kicked a lot lol#but I still try to pretend to do my hobbies#tbh I haven’t read fic in a long time even tho I write it#it’s like I gotta choose between reading and writing and I usually choose writing#but I’m sick of writing so I wanna go back to my roots 😂#anon asks
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Hi, so I don't want to dismiss all the work that you've put in, especially because clearly this comes from a place of passion. But I don't understand your reasoning for writing a comprehensive, and frankly a bit nitpicky, guide of canon verse fanon. I understand your frustration, I've experienced it as well, especially when something you know that is fundamentally wrong is prevalent. However, I don't understand what your canon bible attempts to accomplish. You say the word 'wrong' like people are doing a fundamentally bad act and can be made 'right' but it's fundamentally and inarguably harmless. Is this for new fans, who either will get demoralized or intimidated and either they will be driven away or will ignore you; is this for people who read the comics and want to refresher; or is it born out of frustration and gatekeeping and meant for your small circle out of a way to express your frustration with the current Era and fandom? You can do whatever you want and I have no right to tell you to stop when you're not hurting anybody, but I think that "I'm just educating people so they can be correct!", is a pretty shitty thing to dump in the tags with an insinuation that everyone is having fun wrong and you're here to make sure that everyone has fun the right way.
I didn't read past your third sentence because this is an awfully long and angry-sounding ask to send to someone whose post was just "hey I'm going to make some posts about fanon vs. canon in a fandom extremely notorious for not engaging with the source material, please send me any additional things you'd like me address" but if you want the explanation:
I was correcting some fanon misconceptions on Twitter (specifically regarding nicknames and bad interpretations of canon events) and people asked me to make a thread about it. I thought people on Tumblr could benefit from having the same information I was planning to post to Twitter, especially since I can expand on that information here in a way I can't on a character-constrained platform. It's not that deep. I write meta and address this kind of stuff all the time; this is just a slightly more targeted and dedicated effort to do something I'm already doing.
As I once stated on a completely different post: When fans who engage with the source material on literally any level interact with fanon-based material, we are often unable to recognize the characters or events depicted…because they’re not the characters that actually exist or the events that actually took place, they’re just fanon’s weird idealized, dumbed-down, twisted, or demonized conception of those characters and events. And that’s extraordinarily frustrating for people who actually engage with canon, and of course we want to correct that.
Being told “your headcanon or understanding of this event is verifiably and canonically wrong” isn’t some personal attack against you, and it shouldn't be seen as such. It’s not people trying to kill your fun or enjoyment of a character. It’s not an attempt to chase you out of the fandom. It’s an attempt to correct (sometimes extremely widespread) misperceptions of characters or events that have NO basis in canon, inform you that your joke or post or fanfic just…isn’t actually funny or meaningful when it’s built on extremely basic and fundamental misperception of a character/event, and invite you to actually engage with the source material.
Fanon is pervasive in this fandom to the point where a lot of people either forget what's canon or they never get an accurate understanding of canon in the first place, and it can and does have sometimes an impact on how those characters are then treated in comics moving forward (see: Dick Grayson's characterization in Grayson, for example). It's also meaningful to other, less knowledgable fans when those misunderstandings are corrected by people who know what they're talking about! This, for example, was one of the responses I got to even just listing some of the things I wanted to cover and providing a basic explanation for one of them:
So frankly: I don't care what you think about my project. You can ignore me, block me, whatever. It's going to provide a lot of helpful information in a few easily accessible locations to a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't know said information. And if someone like me (who actually DOES read comics and DOES know the difference between canon and fanon) doesn't do it, no one ever will. That's more than enough justification for me to do it, especially if it pre-emptively answers questions people might otherwise be afraid to ask for fear of being dogpiled on.
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hi! you don't need to answer this if you don't want to bc i know it seems silly haha i just wanted to ask you something
three months ago i accidentally got a spoiler from the bible and i'm not going to tell you which one for obvious reasons lol the point is i got really upset bc i wanted to watch this season as blindly as possible and so i decided to just. pretend it didn't happen
but i was still super anxious and turns out ignoring anxiety for months only makes it worse. very adrien agreste coded of me i'd say. and it became hard to enjoy the show and for quite some the only thing i could think about was the spoiler when trying to engage with anything miraculous related
i kept consuming fanon content bc i didn't want to let go of it and it was fun but also it felt like everything was covered with a layer of anxiety and regret and overthinking
this last last month has been better bc i started to work on my anxiety and i'm even enjoying the show but it's still not the same. i wish i could go back to feeling the same way i did before i got spoiled. and it annoys me bc so many people read the whole bible and they seem excited and unaffected by it
i want to stop freaking out and enjoy the new season properly bc i think i'll regret it if i don't and then it turns out the spoiler i got isn't even a major thing. i remember that you also accidentally read a spoiler from the bible around three months ago. so. could you please tell me it's not a big deal? at least by your posts you seem so unbothered by it
and thanks for the mlp au it's one of my favorite things in the fandom now 🫶
oh no im so sorry that happened!!!!!!!! it's totally understandable how that can ruin enjoyment of something. im not sure which spoiler you saw (and respectfully i dont want to, to preserve the mystery for myself) but the spoiler i saw was one that was....idk how to put this....kind of obvious that it was going to happen? like we knew this would happen Eventually kind of thing, so that's why it didnt bother me all that much. bc i knew the show was gonna do it at some point so it's not exactly a surprise. so while it still didnt feel great to have that spoiled the expectation that it was going to happen was already there
it's still possible to enjoy things even knowing they're going to happen! because whatever has happened (probably) hasn't aired yet, you still dont know exactly how that situation is gonna go down....so there is still a bit of mystery left to it :) as for spoilers go, use it as a way to get excited about what's to come instead of perceiving it as ruining the surprise! i know it sucks and it's rough that you were spoiled :( but i would suggest still watching the show, bc there's probably a lot of things you dont know about that are gonna happen and are going to be so much fun to see!! ♥
and for anyone reading this, keep the bible leaks to yourself or tag them appropriately if you are going to talk about them. not everyone wants to be spoiled!
(also thank you, im glad you like the au <3)
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