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kittyofinsanity · 1 year
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[enters IMGflip] [emerges 3 hours later with Goncharov (1973) and The Goncharov Trilogy book series memes] Please appreciate what I do for you with nothing more than a vague recollection from reading the books as a teenager and only recently finding out there was an entire movie made from them, apparently.
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silima · 1 year
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sofia & katya - goncharov, 1973
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deirdresart · 1 year
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THEM (Katya/Sofia)
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nerdfandumb · 1 year
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When Katya (Goncharov 1973) said “I fell in love the way you fall asleep: slowly and then all at once. You don’t realize you’re sleeping until you wake up you know. It just seems like everything’s a little easier, a little better and then suddenly it’s gone and you think oh I was dreaming. Oh I was in love” she was talking about Sofia
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rinadragomir · 1 year
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Katya bleeding on the floor next to Sofia's dead body, making no effort to ask for help or try to heal her wounds, cause she's too fucking busy stroking her hair and whispering "it's alright, solnyshko, it's alright, it's alright"
Like?
I didn't need my heart anyway?
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Solnyshko means sunny in russian
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somespicyshrimp · 1 year
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[art credit: goncharov/katya by @popsicle-stick​ / goncharov/andrey by @filibusterfrog / katya/sofia by @ blueskittlesart]
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lilolilyr · 10 months
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Katya Michailov x Sofia Modigliani (Goncharov, 1973)
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charlieism · 1 year
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ok the fruit stall scene in goncharov has been talked abt but i havent seen anyone talk about the fact that after sofia buys katya the pomegranate and gifts it to her, katya eats the whole thing. every seed. and how the implications of that relate to the fact that they run away together at the end. its a reflection of persephones myth—katya chose to eat the pomegranate seeds (to stay with sofia). sofia can be seen in two ways here: as hades, taking katya away from everything she knows and loving her (and katya loving her back, going willingly—she knew what she was doing when she ate the seeds and when she left goncharov); or sofia can be seen as akin to demeter, guiding katya away from the darkness and death for as long as she can (and, again, loving her).
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marylizabethaart · 8 months
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Masterpost of my sapphic art, new and old!
Left to right, top to bottom, Bumbleby, My OC's Eska and Oria, Bubbline, Shiara, Korrasami, Bubbline, Fanille, My OC's Eska and Oria, Catradora, Nuts and Dolts, Katya/Sofia.
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faist-inator · 1 year
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spies are forever is *so* goncharov-coded
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calchexxis · 1 year
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I want to talk about the runtime of Goncharov for a minute. Yes, its infamous three-hour-plus runtime. It’s always been kind of hotly contested that Goncharov is far too long for its content, but I’d argue that it’s a story that couldn’t possibly be told in less time, even if it does drag a little in parts it doesn’t change the fact that every scene is important to the advancement of the characters.
Like, yes, the poker scene goes on forever. We all agree on that. But at the same time, where would you even cut it? It’s one of Sofia’s defining moments where she’s both physically and symbolically ‘joining the table’ as a player rather than just another card in the hand of a powerful man. It’s her apex moment where she’s risen out of her impoverished beginnings to enter the world of wealth, power, and decadence, and of course over the span of that long scene you almost see the movie play out in microcosm, with bluffs (betrayals) made and bets (fortunes) won and lost. It’s beautifully scripted, and cutting any part of it would have been a disaster.
Likewise, the part with Katya and Sofia in the bathroom of the Piazza is almost fourteen forking minutes but once again. Where would you cut it? All the focus is on Katya delicately doing Sofia’s makeup while she explains her disdain for her husband and his work and all the failures of the revolution that were ruined by power-hungry men. Those fourteen minutes are used to let us see Katya verbally shred everything about her own life, all while paradoxically opening the door for Sofia to step into it and get herself mixed up in it, but an underappreciated part of that is Sofia herself. We all focus on Katya’s monologue but I’m begging you, go back and watch it--just the scene, you don’t have to watch the whole movie (although if you haven’t seen it, do it) and watch Sofia’s face for that whole 14 minute speech.
Watch how mesmerized she is by Katya, how her expressions change, showing so much emotion even as she struggles not to so as to keep the fresh makeup Katya is lovingly applying intact (another great bit of symbolism btw). It’s a perfect recreation, almost, of their final scene together, when Katya is **SPOILERS** dying in the back of the car and Sofia is holding her and delicately cleaning her up, and both of them are keeping a straight face the entire time.
And I could go on and on (can you tell I like Katya/Sofia) touching on other scenes, like the big one with all the mafia bosses in the Cattedrale di San Gennaro where Goncharov and Andrey have their famous tête-à-tête, or that really excellent long shot they did of the walk down the entirety of the Naples boardwalk.
Anyway, I feel like the runtime is something that’s fair to complain about, but I also think of it as a kind of conscious choice. Every moment is used, but how it’s used can be contentious. Matteo took a risk by trying to do the wrong thing in the right way, and I think it paid off, even if it took a while to notice.
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melancholyofautvmn · 1 year
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yeah yeah goncharov and andrey are cool and all, but they still can't compare to what katya and sofia had going on. i mean come on. the lingering glances? the soft homoerotic touches? the way sofia goes from being bold and brash trying to seduce katya to being soft and gentle actually falling in love with her? the way sofia, described as cruel and unforgivable, when all she needed was love and kindness to become a better person, and katya was the one who gave that to her??? katya always playing the perfect girl, fulfilling what people wanted and expected of her, and the way sofia taught her to be more than that, taught her it's okay to be bad sometimes, to not be what the world says you're supposed to be???? them being the first person who really saw and understood, and despite it all loved, each other.
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sanerontheinside · 1 year
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Look, Goncharov is an excellent movie. It has the sense of inevitability about it, of ever-encroaching tragedy. Its execution of both the suspense and the despair, the mounting fear of what you knew was coming all along—it’s staggering, the perfection of it.
But at the same time, this isn’t a Scorsese, not truly. It’s a Matteo JWHJ 0715. It is, in some ways, a little hamfisted in its execution, and I would argue the American audience is not wrong to analyze it in terms of very American themes. They are! Hollywood movies set the tone for much around the world, from fashion to storytelling in a media as globalized as film.
And as I’ve said, I do love this movie. I love it even for its anachronistic quirks—many of them deliberate and thought-through stylistic choices. I think the fact that goncharov’s primary activities are moving drugs and guns are one of these stylistic departures. Guns and drugs are easy to understand; goncharov is the bad guy, the antihero we’re meant to sympathize with. Certainly, he makes for a rather charming and impressive bastard.
But I think the movie, this particular script rather misses out on the poignancy of the alternative: that goncharov likely wasn’t dealing drugs and weapons, at least not at the beginning. Truth is, you could make an unimaginable amount of money just by smuggling ordinary European goods across the Iron Curtain.
Painfully ordinary. Shoes and coats and and dresses and suits, like all those pretty things that Katya wears. Turntables. Jeans! Plain old dishware. Sure, maybe eventually goncharov didn’t have much of a choice and got into the hard stuff
(this would actually serve the narrative—Goncharov stepping clear over his own lines in the sand, over and over again until he no longer recognizes who he is—perfection)
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but you see, the Soviet Union didn’t have a whole variety in production, nor even necessarily great quality of it. There was no (legal) access to imported goods. I’ve already seen mention of the bootleg copy of the film that became a cult classic in the USSR itself (and probably inspired generations of bratva in years to come 🙄) but I wonder if it simply didn’t occur to anyone to consider that the Soviet bloc had largely isolated itself after WWII, and with a struggling economy, with creakily functioning infrastructure, did its best to achieve the impossible and pull itself ‘up by its bootstraps’.
So just think about it: almost every item that Katya owns is like those pretty gowns and crystal shoes in old fairytales; the moment she steps out of this magical realm—the moment the scales fall from her eyes—all of it will begin to melt away into nothing. She would never have had anything like it, were she not married to Goncharov. And he gave her the keys to this magical kingdom, didn’t he? Her Prince, who in the end is not a prince at all, not a fairytale. The illusion, the glamour falls away from him as well.
And then there is Sofia. Sofia, for whom all these clothes and shoes and jewels are very real. All right, sure—Sofia’s backstory tells us she lucked into this world, and in some sense it is also a sort of fairytale space for her. But the thing is, Katya’s grasp on it is far more tenuous. Sofia is nowhere near as richly dressed as Katya, but when everything goes to pot Sofia will still have something of her own, hard-won with sacrifice.
Katya will not. And how unfair is that: Katya is her own woman, she survives her husband’s world and makes her own way, only to be left with nothing if the worst should happen.
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nvskyprospekt · 1 year
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..someone had to it’s rotten work them
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What I find really fascinating about the Goncharov fics on AO3 is that, for once, the number of mlm fics and the number of wlw fics are roughly equal.
People often accuse fandom of fetishising mlm pairings whilst ignoring wlw ones, but this proves to me that the real issue is that, in most media, the female characters are so underdeveloped that it is hard for the muse to strike.
As the saying goes: build it and they shall come. Goncharov has managed to create two fascinating, multi-faceted characters in Katya and Sofia, who crawl into a writer's mind and demand to be written about. It's so refreshing to see.
I hope that now this masterpiece is finally receiving the attention it deserves, filmmakers and storytellers will take note and be inspired to develop multiple complex female characters in their tales.
(But I'm not holding my breath.)
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slicedblackolives · 1 year
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but after the boat scene when sofia cleans katya's wounds with her scarf and then later at home tries to wash it but the stains don't go away so she wears it as it is the brown stains hidden underneath her collar, pressed against her bare flesh
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