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sidewalkchemistry · 7 months
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or temu haul
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acti-veg · 2 years
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This feels like a really silly thing have to post but it has become quite clear to me that an awful lot of people I encounter online do not know this (or are at least pretending they don’t) so I’m going to spell it out as if we’re all five.
People seem to treat veganism as some sort of exclusive choice that means you don’t or can’t choose anything else. ‘Eating local is much more sustainable than eating vegan!’ This isn’t true, but even if it were, how is this an argument against veganism?
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Think of it like this - a checklist where you can select more than one option. Ticking ‘go vegan’ doesn’t grey out all of the other options. You can both wear vegan clothes and avoid plastic, you can eat vegan food and support local farmers, you can be vegan and support Fairtrade.  We don’t all have the same options available to us, but choosing one doesn’t take away any of the others. I can’t afford to buy all organic or local, for example, but I can afford to eat plant-based and buy at least mostly Fairtrade coffee, chocolate and fruit.
You need to all stop pretending that being vegan means you’re buying ‘child slave quinoa’ (again, not even true), or that it means you’re wearing plastic jackets, or that all your food is imported. These are lazy, fallacious, intellectually dishonest false dilemmas that don’t serve your argument and do absolutely nothing to help workers, animals or the planet.
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A take on veganism
While veganism can do good on the world, It's current climate is toxic and unhealthy.
There is no act an individual can to that will effect the level of harm that corporations cause
The especially white vegan view of you have to be fully vegan in everything you consume is toxic, unethical, and often in achievable.
Plastic leather (pleather or vegan leather) is horrible for the environment and your wallet. It sheds a ridiculous amount of plastic products into the environment and does not hold up with time causing you to have to buy more and more. This of course causes more plastic in the environment and more expenses to you.
Most leather is used as a byproduct from cows killed for the meat industry meaning these cows would still be killed if you did not consume leather as they are skilled for hamburger etc. and then instead of discarding their skin it is used for a durable environmentally friendly product.
In again, especially white vegans, the bid to not consume any animal products leads to more harm than good in cases.
Foods like quinoa (grain that has amino acids and protein) and agave (common substitute for honey) harm farmers and the countries who rely on them due to vegans driving up global demand.
Many vegans will boycott honey as it is derived from bees, but will still consume almond milk. This is hypocritical as bees are not harmed in the production of honey, buy are harmed in the transportation to and pollinating of almond groves.
The crazy vegan stereotype turns people away from veganism and decreased animal consumption. The over the top, angry, all or nothing type creates hatred towards the vegan community steating people away from it which creates the opposite effect that it is trying to.
Critic of concepts such as meatless Monday hurts everyone. Most people can't or aren't willing to be vegan or vegetarian but concepts such as meatless Mondays allows for less meat to be cooked when it otherwise would be.
The idea that vegan or vegetarian diets are cheaper is false. This is only true if your diet is mainly beans and rice, but that is not how almost everyone eats. Produce, and dairy and meat substitutes are more expensive than animal products. Furthermore in food deserts or countries/areas where vegan/vegetarian lifestyles aren't common it may be next to impossible to not consume animal products due to low availability and high price.
Most vegans and vegetarians will allow for medications that include animal products, but those who don't create an unsafe space for people who rely on them.
Medications is not the only reason to need to consume animal products and this is where the real danger lies. Any condition that causes a restrictive diet poses a risk in restricting more. Yes, veganism and vegetarism are restrictive diets. Some, but definitely not all, are chron's, gerd, ANY ED, needing to tube feed, IBS, colonoscopy bag users, people on a liquid diet, and much more. Talk to your healthcare provider please before attempting vegan or vegetarian lifestyles if you have any of these types of issues. The vegan movement shames people who rely on animal products to stay healthy and that is dangerous.
Racism plays into the vegan movement as well. Many, again, especially white, vegans shame cultures who use animals. Cultures and traditions who care for animals, use all their parts, farm, and take care of their land and animals are much better than traditionally western practices and the need for veganism is no longer needed. The animals and land are cared for and treated respectfully. Veganism would do more harm than good here.
There us a line between ethical and unethical veganism, however the line is blurred. Knowing when it does more harm than good is not often enough talked about and I believe it's important that unethical veganism is talked about more.
Some ways to help promote ethical living besides veganism
Freegan. A freegan is vegan with the exception to animal products that would otherwise be discarded.
Ethical consumption. Buy from local farmers. Start a community garden. Have your own chickens for eggs. Etc.
Trade and barter. This works around capitalism which is a driving factor towards unethical animal practices.
Support indigenous people. They know how to care for the land and the animals. Importantly their rights have been abused and violated and we need to support them as well.
Shop local. This keeps money out of the hands of big corporations. As well as being environmentally friendly due to less co2 emissions.
Reduce reuse recycle. Start by reducing the products use consume. Then reuse what you can as much as you can. Finally recycle everything you can. This is the order that makes the smallest imprint.
Pescitarian. The only meat pescitarians consume is fish.
Vegetarian. Vegetarians consume animal products but not animals. This can include eggs, but not chickens, milk, but not cow, honey, silk etc. Lakto-vegitarians consume dairy but not eggs and ovo-vegitarians consume eggs but not dairy.
Cutting out any type of meat or animal products.
Only consuming foods that are ethically produced in regards to the environment, animals, and/or humans
Feel free to add more
Remember your health comes first, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, any change is better than no change.
TL;DR Veganism has problems and isn't the end all be all of ethicality. Reduce consumption in general in the ways you can. Remember your health comes first.
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lifebuoyjournals · 1 year
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The Tannery, Christchurch
This place was so pretty and I loved the vibe! Definitely one of the highlights of my trip to Christchurch.
What's the prettiest place that y'all have been to?
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xanderisbraindead · 6 months
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Im rlly tired of ppl bringing up poor ppl as a gotcha in conversations around ethical consumption. A struggling mother of 3 buying McDonalds for her and her kids bc it’s cheap and she gets paid minimum wage is not the villain. A teen who wants to fit in but cannot even afford mall clothing buying 4 tops from shein is not the villain.
The people who you should be critiquing are the rich. The ppl that have other options but they dont care. People who have 1k to blow so they get massive shein hauls then throw it all away
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hussyknee · 9 months
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Def a good idea to delete theculturedmarxist’s stuff, he’s also a big-time propagandist/genocide denier type. It sucks that some tankies have gotten bigger platforms recently by strike blogging.
But yeah the banana thing is insane, I *think* the original poster was using it as an example of the fact that a more just society in the US is necessarily going to be a less convenient one because convenience often comes at the expense of (domestic and international) labor exploitation, and “non-domestic crops being available year-round” is an example of a luxury that came out of said exploitation, which is A Point (though I might’ve picked something like Amazon same-day delivery to argue it…)
But then people ran with it and made it about either How Do We Stop Big Banana Through Socialism or Here’s How Bananas Can Still Win. Both at the dehumanizing expense of now-theoretical Latin American laborers of course 🙃
Oh shit that's what's happening? Tankies coasting in on strike blogging?? Gdi.
Yeah I think that was the original point too. The thing is, that US leftists keep centering US consumer demand in everything, like the entire system of global labour and resource exploitation by multinational conglomerates, aided and abetted by the IMF and World Bank and the entire colonial power matrix, can be solved by yelling at enough people about their consumption. For people who are so obsessed with class, it seems to consistently escape them that Global North consumers are also exploited and disempowered by the same oligopolies and monopolies that pay producers pennies on the dollar and sell for prices that smaller and entry-level companies can't compete with. Even as an example, bananas in the US are priced way lower than what's profitable, just to keep a monopoly of consumers. And because so many companies in the West don't pay working class people a fair wage, they have to consume the cheapest, most convenient food stuffs. So when you talk about people reducing consumption of bananas, you're asking people dependent on the cheapest nutrient sources to bear the biggest loss.
This is exactly what we mean by "no ethical consumption under capitalism". It doesn't mean we give up on the entire issue, it means that the systems of production cannot be manipulated by consumer boycotts and individual ethics. Even if one product was taken off the shelves, whatever supplanted it would be just as unethical for some group of people. It means that the solutions need to be implemented top-down, not bottom up. Global North governments need to better regulate corporate behaviour, prioritise the well-being of workers and ecological chains involving production and transport, prevent monopolies by regulating prices, and encourage and incentivize local food supply networks. And also, as some from Colombia said in a reblog about the cocaine industry, economic stress must be taken off developing nations by forgiving their IMF and World Bank loans so that they can invest the profits from their export industries in reforming agriculture and social welfare systems.
I literally do not understand why, when people directly impacted by these conditions have clear and cohesive demands and action plans, Western liberals and leftists need to come up with these completely abstract, impractical, ego-centric bullshit to create endless discourse over. They don't actually care about engaging with activists, grassroots organizations and unions in the Global South, because that involves interrogating their own paternalism, privilege and bias, and narrows the scope for the clout-chasing dunk economy.
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sugaldean · 18 days
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Not to be that guy
But if you want supermarkets and fast food to not waste things, you will need to accept that sometime they will be out of stuff
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sidewalkchemistry · 6 months
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from the 'wholistic + abundant {lifestyle}' Pinterest board
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ivie-online · 2 years
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there really is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but here’s the great news: we don’t solely exist as consumers.
‘no ethical consumption’ has more to do with the working/ownership class dichotomy and the inherently unethical manner under which goods are produced (work or starve) than the circumstances that individual goods (think fairtrade or cruelty free) are produced under.
i made a video where I broke down a lot of the common ‘conscious capitalist’ terms, but for a quick example: a ‘sustainable’ western clothing brand paying foreign workers $100/month to avoid paying western workers over 1k/month isn’t ethical because it relies upon the existence of capitalist imperialism for cheap labor, and in many cases, if the ‘sustainable’ business model had to cover health insurance, retirement, or even just minimum wage in a place like the U.S., it would completely fall apart. any company that requires cheap labor & resources from the global south in order to exist is by no means ethical.
as a consumer, you can certainly aim for harm reduction, but these actions will almost never be definitively ethical, which is completely fine, because under capitalism, we really only step into the role of consumer when we engage with the free market to buy things. you could argue that simply using social media, or watching netflix or whatever is consumption (and you’d be right!) but even so, most of us produce far more than we consume.
we produce not only at our jobs, but on our blogs, in our gardens, and in our homes and communities, for families, friends, neighbors, and strangers. we produce all types of art like music, film, and written works, not to mention the endless crafts and hobbies we dedicate ourselves to. just by engaging with one another, we’re constantly producing and reproducing our very culture itself! it’s in this realm, the realm of production rather than consumption, that we’re able to effect the most change.
now, many of us are going to have to live much, much differently than we do now, and using the ‘no ethical consumption under capitalism’ line to avoid acknowledging this is effectively climate change denialism. the beauty of the sustainability movement is that it provides actionable proof of concept, using the tools and circumstances we have right now. so yes, please do whatever you can to make more sustainable choices! thrift! adopt a plant based diet! question whether you actually need that new thing!
but remember that we aren’t only consumers, or even mostly consumers, so in order to build the world we want to see, we must each deeply understand how capitalism and other hegemonic forces work to undermine the way we relate to each other and our shared environment. to achieve this goal, and to effectively counteract capitalism’s destructive myopia, you can join a union, talk to your friends, start a community garden, join a mutual aid organization. if you can’t find one, start one.
we can’t consume our way out of this capitalist reality, but we certainly can produce a better world.
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selkies-world · 5 months
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kiaqtexistuku · 11 months
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Is vulture culture mean to animals?
More people need to understand the difference between overconsumption and recycling when it comes to animal products. I am a bone collector and a furs collector but I refuse to buy from a fur farm-as should everybody-yet some people just don't understand how I could collect animal byproducts without doing that.
Pretty much I live in a mountain woods town and there is roadkill everywhere so it isn't hard to find bones. I only get bones from the ground (meaning already decomposed bodies with no flesh left and they are usually already pretty sun-bleached) and I would consider getting them from ethical hunters if I had the need (meaning hunters who kill animals to feed their family and never take more than they need, they usually use all of the animals and have no problem selling the carcass or the bones and fur if they have the time and energy to skin it themselves).
All of the furs (mostly tails) I have are from ethical farmers or roadkill, I only buy from trusted people who I know didn't get them from a fur farm or aren't a fur farm themself. Most of them are taxidermists (who by the way can be ethical about this too) who found roadkill or had to kill a fox that was eating their chickens or something and decided to use most of the body to honour the dead animal. Admittedly some things do go to waste though like the meat and guts, but in my experience, people usually leave them in the woods for the crows and vultures to eat (or small mammals sometimes).
This is how most vulture culture esc people I know do this and the majority of us do not give in to overconsumption of animal products.
It's actually better in my opinion to use all of the animals like our ancestors did rather than throw it out. Soooo next time you see someone wearing a tail on their backpack or who collects bones or something. Please don't just assume they are anti-vegans and hate animals or something because most of us actually love animals. For me, that's why I do this, to honour the poor dear or possum who fell victim to someone's car. And also remember that not everyone who is not a vegan or vegetarian is eating store-bought animal products, even if most of them are.
PS: I also think everyone should educate themselves on the overconsumption of animal products and think about their actions. I live in Canada so most of what I have learned pertains to that and the Hudson's Bay Company. But even just looking up the type of farm that beef you bought from the store came from is a good idea. If you are uncomfortable eating meat from a place like that, you should think about what you buy. This modern human world is full of overconsumption and disrespect for other animals, 'we' justify it by thinking humans are superior. But how can a species be so cruel and superior? The truth is they can't, we are animals just like the rest of them.
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nomorerww · 10 months
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reminder:
“In Pakistan, the pandemic has driven workers from their machines and to the factory gates, manifesting their outrage at unpaid wages. Their employers – many of whom are suppliers to international brands – responded with mass layoffs and gun fire.”
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During the #COVID19 crisis large clothing brands are demanding discounts up to 30% from their suppliers.
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https://www.fastcompany.com/90531703/i-dont-really-have-a-choice-la-garment-workers-are-risking-their-lives-to-sew-masks
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coulsonlives · 12 days
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This is gonna be my go-to answer for anyone whining about local products being more expensive.
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acti-veg · 24 days
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who would you say are the most ethical energy suppliers in the uk please?
It depends what you’re looking for in a supplier and what your ethical priorities are. Octopus Energy generally do well according to most metrics, as do Ecotricity, Good Energy and 100Green.
Ethical consumer have a good run-down of the various ethical issues involved in production and consumption here, and the good shopping guide have a comparison of various companies and tariffs here. I’d recommend doing your own research and deciding according to your own priorities.
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