It's time y'all.
Let's talk about HOBIE & RACE
- It is not problematic to say that Hobie would display black solidarity by finding black women in specific attractive.
- It is not problematic to say that Hobie would possibly like a partner who could understand his experiences with racism.
- It is not problematic to say he would possibly like a partner who understands how to take care of his hair, or shares the same hair texture.
- It is not problematic to say that Hobie would find beauty in features specific to the black race - when we have been told those features are undesirable in every way for centuries.
We gotta talk about how Colorblindness is forced on Black Characters - Hobie in Specific
Y'all - it's time we have a VERY VERY overdue conversation about Hobie Brown and Race.
Because it is a necessary one.
Hobie Brown, The Black!Reader, & Representation -
aka Black people are not Colorblind - and neither is Hobie Brown -
[let Diane hop on the mic right quick Chile]
Stop acting like Black Fictional Characters would be colorblind.
Black people can't be colorblind, because our color is weaponized against us from birth. We HAVE to see race - because we have to protect ourselves and know our own history
So when we decide to make spaces specifically for us - spaces where black people and black women in specific can be desired and uplifted, I don't see why people have a problem with it.
Hobie Brown loves, yes. But he also lives in 1978. Racial segregation was outlawed in his country in 1965.
Hobie Brown loves, but he's also a black guy who grew up under racial segregation and racism. He's a black guy who fights cops.
The Writers made Spiderpunk - The Spiderperson who fights oppressive cops - black for a REASON.
The Writers chose to have a black guy save Miles for a REASON. To uplift black people.
Writers here on Tumblr made Black!Readers black for same reason.
If Black Lives Matter doesn't mean White Lives Don't Matter -
Then 'Hobie Brown finds black chicks especially attractive' DOESN'T mean 'white women are unattractive'. This isn't about y'all.
And even for the people that say Hobie would like ONLY black people - okay??? They can say that - it's a literal headcanon.
It's not true if you don't want it to be. You don't have to believe it.
But seeing Black people be protective of a black character, and making black content for other black fans - and then saying 'what - stop that. that's wrong. break this up so I can join'
BEFORE you question why they do it - NOT COOL.
That's like asking for more Captain America in Black Panther. Like ?????
That's like hearing a Riot Grrrl say 'All the women to the front!!' and going 'Uhh, all genders are equal, why can't the men stand in the front too?'
Like yes, all genders are equal. But also - This isn't about them. It's about representation.
Stop preaching equality when we're asking for representation.
Cause there are dozens, hundreds, of white characters who only have white on-screen romances.
And their fandoms do not write black!readers. They do not care enough to say 'oh the show isn't representing this, let us do it.'
The media nor the fandom represent black women. They are an afterthought, always.
And you never see posts for them like -
'Dean Winchester loves black women. Dean Winchester loves latinas -'
When it's a white character only dating white women, with xReaders that always imply whiteness, y'all never call for diversity. At all.
You wouldn't make this post for Miguel.
But when it's a black character and someone suggests they only date black women, or people begin to write xReaders that imply blackness instead of your default-
Suddenly you care about diversity.
Because the first time, you're not represented.
Because let's be honest. Let's be real. No one is writing Hobie x White!Reader. Barely anyone is writing Hobie x Latina!Reader.
It's the Black!Reader you have a problem with. Let's just say it.
Allow black people to have their space, without unfairly calling for 'diversity'.
(aka the right to access to black safe spaces, comfort characters, and labor)
Hobie is an attractive, educated black guy who fights and protects people from the aggressors we ourselves genuinely fear everyday.
He is a character like we've never had before. He has so much emotional weight to us.
Let us enjoy him as we please. We aren't hurting anyone else.
We're just not catering to you. We don't have to.
If a black person wants to center Hobie's love on Black people, they have the right.
And I'm not saying you can't write him with a race neutral or even a White!Reader. Go ahead and write that if you want but just know-
1) If you want to write him with an explicitly white or non-black reader - you should approach the topic of race. You should approach and mention the cultural differences. Him going through racism. Don't erase that because you think it makes your writing ugly or sad.
And if you don't put it in, your erasing the reality and black experience because you find something wrong or uncomfortable about it.
2) If you want to write a race neutral reader - make sure they're really race neutral. Don't include details about hair texture, hairstyle, or skin color.
3) If you are asking black writers for requests - do not get mad if they make the request Black.
You cannot get mad at a black writer for interjecting their own experience when writing about a black character. You're basically asking them to strip their blackness from their writing so you can enjoy it more.
Why should they have to second guess and dial back their blackness when we're expected to do that everywhere? If they want to take a break, and write Black!Readers they can.
3) Understand that the black people are going to keep their safe spaces. And they're going to keep Hobie in their corner.
Because honestly, and I'm going to put this brazenly:
Hobie Brown as a character - and what he represents - means more to black fans than it does nonblack fans.
Does that mean he doesn't matter to y'all? No, not at all. Hobie absolutely holds real emotional weight and meaning to you on multiple levels.
But please understand, for black people - we connect to Hobie on an emotional, often trauma-fueled front.
One that you'll never understand.
There is a level that we connect with him on that nonblack people can't. As a dark skinned black guy, a black guy with natural hair, an alt black guy,
As a black guy who has canonically faced police brutality on-screen
To you, this screenshot is most likely Hobie flipping the camera off, edgy and punk. It's funny, tongue in check. ACAB and all that.
To us, this screenshot is of Hobie - a low income black guy - being physically restrained by police and refusing to stop even when they're taking his mugshot. It's a black guy openly flipping off the police and fighting them off and refusing to go down no matter how much they beat him and he's winning YES
After so many videos over SO many years of cops doing that to black men and them.. not winning.
And them just dying and us having to watch. And add another name to list.
When you see his laces, you most likely think ACAB.
When we see his laces, we see that he's a black man who took on a cop and lived to tell the tale. Which is a RARITY.
Because many of them lose the battle.
For us, the context and connection are completely different.
Fanfiction may just be a way for you to kiss up on random characters or comfort yourself, but for us - that's not the case.
For us, fanfiction is a way to show our experiences and features in a media and world that has collectively ignored them. Shunned them, called them ugly.
Maybe make a post or send an ask to a creator - and ask what Black!Readers mean for them, why they find it important.
Hobie Brown likes Black Girls.
He finds them beautiful. He likes wide lips and broad noses and kinky hair. He loves melanin, and brown skin in the sunlight, and seeing a them in a silk bonnet in the morning.
He loves not having to explain his culture, sharing coconut oil and shea butter. He likes seeing waist beads. He likes people who speak AAVE, with twang in their talk.
He likes ghetto black girls with the acrylic nails. He likes Stallions 6 foot tall. He likes masc girls. And fem ones. He loves black nonbinary people because we do not have to cosign to colonialist ideas of gender. And he loves him some black men too - a good fade will make him go crazy, he loves men with long locs and pretty smiles.
Hobie Brown finds the beauty in Black People that have been erased and demonized again and again by White Society.
Hobie Brown holds blackness dear. And he wants black people to do well.
Hobie Brown loves Black People. Hobie Brown loves Black Girls.
And that's on, what?
This has been a PSA from Diane Pastors. Y'all stay blessed out there 😌💗
Anyway what y'all wearing to carnival since we going to carnival and cropover and labor day with Hobie and bringing out all the flags. 🇧🇧🇧🇧 I'm bringing him to cropover in Barbados yeah I said it we're all going to carnival with him.
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Not gonna get too deep into it, but a lot of African Americans cling to Egypt because we were deprived of education about African history EXCEPT Egypt. So, like... everything, at the end of the day, goes back to white supremacy. The first time I learned about Great Zimbabwe, Mansa Musa, the Nubians, etc., in a school setting was in college. Like, they would've had me believe Africa was just sitting there waiting for Europeans to conquer it and sell my ancestors into slavery, based on my K-12 education.
So, like... have a little empathy for African Americans who cling to Egypt. I know hoteps are annoying, but they exist because they were never taught their history and they latched on to the only African kingdom they'd ever heard of. It's not some conspiracy in which Black people are trying to be cruel and appropriate the culture of North Africans. It's lost people trying to find where they came from and being misguided because of lack of information.
Also, North Africans without Black ancestry need to check their antiblackness, because it's really obvious tbh. As an African American, I took a DNA test a while back to see where my DNA suggests my ancestors might have been from (none of them are 100% accurate, but still.) Naturally, my DNA showed a lot of African and European ancestry, but my African ancestry was mostly West Africa, but also some (significant) North African and East African. When I tweeted about it back then, North Africans who didn't even follow me or know me from a can of paint LEAPED into my mentions to tell me I wasn't North African.
Like, it disgusted them to imagine a slave descendant could possibly share their DNA.
Like I said, it doesn't please me to claim Egyptian and I don't feel we need Egypt to be great, but if it's in my DNA profile, how is some random on Twitter gonna tell me no? I didn't even tweet about it especially, I just tweeted the entire list of every county/region with the percentages the DNA results listed.
Like?? I'll never forget that. North Africans said "not you, n*gger" essentially, lmao. So unserious.
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Hobie: Canonically hates an entire group (cops), says he hates them, has personally killed one, and is openly proud of it and maybe even willing to do it again
People for some reason: Hobie loves everybody. Everyone one. There's no way he can harbor ill will towards someone. He looks past all the superficial stuff. He could never experience negative feelings about the experience of being oppressed - or openly talk negatively about a group of people actively complicit in his oppression. That's impossible, what are you talking about?? Why do you think he's mean? Also he's from a universe where racism and segregation never existed :)
I'm not saying Hobie would hate white people like he hates cops. I'm not saying he wouldn't date a white person - what I'm saying is:
MY SIBLING IN CHRIST, Hobie is a Murderer.
Hobie wears blue laces. He has murdered a cop. Because they were a cop. And he's proud of it.
Hobie is not a pacifist. Hobie doesn't 'just love', because he doesn't love cops.
You think he can hate an entire group of people (cops), and put effort into combatting then -
but you don't think he can hold and entire group in high esteem (black people) and put effort into uplifting them or seeking them out?
And even moreso -
If you like his laces, or find them okay - you are condoning murder. And that's coming from someone who likes them.
You like someone who killed a person based on their profession.
He wasn't looking past that!! And he doesn't want to! You're a cop - enough said bruh
You're fine with him murdering one of his oppressors based on their job, but not him personally choosing to not date his oppressors?
You're implying that actual murder is more acceptable than a black person not dating white people.
It's okay if Hobie does one - but not the other?
You are fine with him killing someone - so long as he experiences attraction towards white people??????
You think him perpetrating violence towards an entire group of people is okay, but not him choosing to not engage with white people romantically?
You're okay when he talks about hating the PM and the pigs and ACAB - but you think the idea of him expressing frustration towards his white oppressors impossible and also wrong of him?
Y'all are okay with writing fics of him being mean to Office Davis because he's a cop and that's okay and funny - but you think him being guarded around white people or romantically unavailable to them based on prior experiences is impossible and bad????
Murder is better than a black person not including you??? Huh???
'killing a man in cold blood and wearing it proudly I can look past, but not asking a white woman out? That's dispicable.'
mfer I'm GOBSMACKED cause at this point what logic are you running on??? What sense are you making???
I think Hobie would date any race (even though I think he'd be very observant and aware before taking on a partner who does not understand racism personally. not against it, but as a trans person - I have to be very keen on if a potential partner has hidden transphobia for my own safety and life, I think the same extends to Hobie and race.)
But the fact that these people are okay with him committing murder but not okay with him not being romantically available to white people goes to show they don't actually care about his characterization.
They don't actually think he loves everybody. They know what the blue laces mean.
They just care about consuming him. And they will twist his narrative any way they want in order to do so.
Even if that's implying that murder is better than racial solidarity.
I'm not saying Hobie would hate white people like he does cops.
What I'm saying is that Hobie
1) experiences direct racism as a dark skinned, natural haired black guy
2) he would be just as vocal about his anti-racism views as he is his anti-police stance.
The same way he holds cops accountable for the oppression they are complacent in and the divide that causes, he would do the same for the white people around him.
If Hobie talking about hating the cops and the Prime Minister in everyday conversation is okay to you, but him venting about disparity between races that has effected his whole life - makes you uncomfortable, question why.
They're both displaying negative views towards an entire group of oppressors, why is one okay to you?
Why is Hobie killing a cop completely plausible and acceptable to you, but him even talking or thinking about white people in a sightly negatively negative, frustrated light because of the trauma he faced - we all face - completely impossible and unacceptable to you?
Because you think cops deserve it and white people don't? Because you think police brutality is a conversation that matters but racism isn't???
As if the two things aren't linked??????
Because Hobie is just a puppet to you, and the idea he is not the Token Perfect Black Guy makes you uncomfortable???
Surprise!!! Hobie is an Angry Black Man. He's the scary black man who kills people!! Rarr be scared Boo!!!
Over in y'all corner like 'my boy wouldn't hurt a fly' meanwhile he in the back taking the lives of many and hospitalizing dozens more
Get comfortable with the fact that Hobie is not some hippie lover boy. If you a cop he don't fuck with you, if you black he's gonna uplift you until his last breath.
If you're willing to shout ACAB, you better be shouting BLM too.
That's it. Imma shut the fuck up about it now. I just had to get that one off my mind
Here Hobie
I can't I can't take him ugghh I wanna see him get belligerent so bad
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