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don-dake · 11 months
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So I've been playing around with Cāngjié…
And I thought a post like this (similar to a post on Zhùyīn done by linghxr) may be of interest to some.
Edited: 10 Sep 2023
This post has gotten a little popular lately and on scrutinizing my own post again, I've come to the conclusion that I had made some mistakes in my given character examples.
Amended now. Namely, 「唔」 and 「龍」 have now been swapped over in the examples.
「唔」 is really the “3-parts”, and 「龍」 is indeed a “2-parts” character! Amendments are reflected in orange.
What (and who) is Cāngjié?
For those who may not know, Cāngjié is another way to input 漢字/汉字 (Hànzì — Chinese characters). It is way less popular than Pinyin (or even Zhuyin) but it still has its fans, and has a few advantages over the other two.
Cāngjié is also the name of the mythical figure in Chinese legend who is said to have been the inventor of 漢字/汉字, for which Cāngjié (the input system) was named after.
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Would I recommend it?
Yes, if you think you have already acquired a good (enough) understanding of 漢字/汉字, and/or just like a new challenge.
(TL;DR at the end)
Why am I learning Cāngjié (and why you may like to, too)?
1. Mostly for fun.
Have long been intrigued by both Cāngjié and Zhùyīn, and since I finally mustered up the courage to tackle Zhùyīn not too long ago, I thought I'd finally give Cāngjié a try.
While learning Cāngjié does require more effort than learning Pinyin or Zhuyin, it can also be really fun! Inputting 漢字/汉字 with the Cāngjié method is almost like doing a jigsaw puzzle.
The euphoria derived from figuring out and piecing together the radicals that make up a word is something that learning Jyutping (Cantonese equivalent of Pinyin), Pinyin or Zhuyin can't quite match.
And while I know I'll never be as adept with Cāngjié — my knowledge of 漢字/汉字 is nowhere near good enough to ever use Cāngjié efficiently — as I do Jyutping or Pinyin (or to some extent, Zhuyin), it'll still be fun to use Cāngjié every once in a while!
2. Helps with thinking and typing in Chinese.
The upshot of relying too much on using Jyutping/Pinyin/Zhuyin is, I'd tend to think in Roman letters or ㄅㄆㄇㄈ before I'd even think about the actual 漢字/汉字.
But with Cāngjié, because it's based on knowing radicals and joining them together to form actual characters, it'll encourage thinking of 漢字/汉字 first, so I think that would help some with 漢字/汉字 memory retention.
Now you may be thinking, why not just you know, practise actually writing then? That is the tried and proven method to better remember 漢字/汉字 after all?
Yes, of course I can do that — and am doing so occasionally — but we live in a digital age now, and the probability and opportunity to type things out is much higher than actually writing stuff by hand.
The idea here is, more looking to think of and envision characters fully in my head, and trying to lessen over-reliance on Jyutping/Pinyin/Zhuyin.
And this is where I find Cāngjié can be useful, which leads to my next point…
3. Haunted by “What if” scenario.
What if there comes a day (however improbable) where I'm presented with only a Cāngjié keyboard to use for typing Chinese? It has happened with Zhùyīn for me!
That means, no Pinyin or Zhuyin keyboards, no Handwriting tools/touchscreens to write with fingers/mouse, no speech-to-text, and no option to copy-and-paste characters from somewhere else either! What then?
4. Able to type without knowing pronunciation, and with more accuracy.
Cāngjié is shape-based. Unlike Jyutping/Pinyin/Zhuyin, where you have to know what a character sounds like before you can type it out, with Cāngjié, you can type out (again assuming no Handwriting or other tools available) characters without needing to know how to pronounce them at all.
With shape-based typing, you'd also get more accurate hits in the first few 漢字/汉字 that show up, versus sound-based methods like Pinyin where for e.g., typing out “wan” will get you a whole list under the same sound and you may have to scroll through a whole lot to get the exact “wan” you need.
You can also type both Traditional and Simplified characters without having to toggle something or switch keyboards.
So how does one begin learning Cāngjié?
Install a Cāngjié keyboard.
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Duh…but of course! Heh! Gboard offers one, banded under Cantonese language input (Android user here, don't know about iPhones, sorry).
There are two versions of Cāngjié that are prevalent currently. Cāngjié 3 and Cāngjié 5. Cāngjié 5 is supposed to be an improvement over version 3 but I don't find there's much; having a slightly altered version just adds to the confusion and unnecessarily complicates matters, in fact!
If you have a choice, I'd recommend selecting Cāngjié 3 as that is more supported. Some operating systems may not be too compatible with Cāngjié 5 still, for some strange reason.
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You may also come across something called “Quick” (速成) aka, “Simplified Cāngjié”.
This is simply a scaled down version of Cāngjié, it's still based on Cāngjié's formula. So you still need to know how Cāngjié works in order to use “Quick” efficiently.
You'd then need a chart like this. ↓
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* the 重 (Z) key doesn't really come into use. I don't really know what it's for, but it seems to be used (paired with other keystrokes) mainly to type out various punctuation marks.
There are variants out there, some having a little more, or less, radicals shown than in the above example, but I'll say the chart here is one of the more comprehensive ones I've found so far (and sufficient enough) — other charts often fail to highlight the 難 (X) key and what it corresponds to.
You don't have to memorize the chart all at once. Just always have a chart like this on hand to refer to and with enough typing practise, you'll eventually remember which key corresponds with which radicals.
Remember the rules. ↓
“1 part” character (e.g. 寫) = first 3 & last (radical).
“2 parts” character (e.g. 唔龍) = first & last, first 2 & last.
“3 parts” character (e.g. 難) = first & last, first & last, last.
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e.g. 寫 ↓
With radicals 宀,丿,臼 (first 3) and 灬 (last).
Corresponding keys: 十,竹,難 and 火。
寫 → 写 ↓
With radicals 冖,卜,㇆ (first 3),一 (last).
Corresponding keys:月,卜,尸 and 一。
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e.g. 龍 ↓
With radicals 亠,月 (first & last), 卜,コ (first 2),ヒ (last).
Corresponding keys: 卜,月,卜,尸,and 心。
龍 → 龙 ↓ (Simplified 龍 → 龙,a “1 part” character)
With radicals 丶,ナ,ヒ (first 3).
Corresponding keys: 戈,大,and 心。
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e.g. 難 ↓
With radicals 廿,人 (first & last),亻(first & last),土 (last).
Corresponding keys: 廿,人,人 and 土。
難 → 难 ↓
With radicals ヌ (first & last),亻(first & last),土 (last).
Corresponding keys: 水,人,and 土。
Occasionally, you may get a character that looks like a “2 parts” but is actually a “3 parts”. ↓
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e.g. 唔 ↓
With radicals 口 (first & last),一,一 (first & last),口 (last).
Corresponding keys: 口,一,一 and 口。
Or looks like a “1 part” but really a “3 parts”. ↓
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e.g. 奪 ↓
With radicals 大 (first & last),亻,土 (first & last),丶 (last).
Corresponding keys: 大,人,土,and 戈。
奪 → 夺 ↓(Simplified 奪 → 夺,a “1 part” character)
With radicals 大,寸 (first 3; the 丶 is the 3rd component).
Corresponding keys: 大,木,and 戈。
But these are exceptions, and don't occur that often.
And you can start practising!
You can try out this pretty good app called 『五色學倉頡』 (learning Cāngjié with 5 colours), for practise. It's on Playstore, just search for “Cangjie Dictionary” and it should show up.
You have to pay to unlock higher levels, unfortunately. ↓
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Anyway, each character comes with colour coded hints and you can opt to turn them off if you like more of a challenge. There are also hints (提示) and the chart (字根表) to refer to if you're really stuck. Also has a dictionary component (查字典) to check out the Cāngjié input for characters.
Another option would be a website called HKCards. ↓
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You can use it to check the Cāngjié input for any 漢字/汉字, and there's section for practise (倉頡輸入法練習) as well. After inputting your answer with Cāngjié keys (手田水口廿卜), you can click on the “Answer” (答案) button to see how right or wrong your answers were. ↓
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There are 8 characters each time, and you can just hit “Practise Again” (再做練習) to refresh for another 8 to practise with. I've yet to hit a limit.
Unfortunately, this website has lots of ads popping up. And it only supports searching in Traditional characters (Cāngjié was initially catered more for Traditional).
Or you can just try practising randomly with a Cāngjié keyboard and check for mistakes with a Cāngjié dictionary (『五色學倉頡』 app's dictionary comes in really useful here — it appears to support searching in Simplified too).
TL;DR
Cāngjié could be useful (and fun) to know if your 漢字/汉字 knowledge is already adequate, and/or you just like a new challenge.
And if watching videos is more your thing, here's a really helpful YouTube tutorial on how to use Cāngjié (has English subs)!
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linghxr · 1 year
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How I'm learning bopomofo (zhuyin fuhao)
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Why am I learning bopomofo?
Maybe around a year ago, I had a dream in which I was in a library/bookstore in Taiwan. I was trying to search their catalog to see if they had a book I wanted in stock. The only option was a bopomofo touchscreen keyboard, and I became quite distressed because I was unable to type anything. This dream inspired me to learn bopomofo, AKA zhuyin fuhao.
Why should you learn bopomofo?
Frankly, the consensus I've seen on blogs and language forums is that you don't need to learn bopomofo/zhuyin fuhao. But I wanted to share my thoughts on what there is to gain from learning it. Consider learning bopomofo if...
You find pinyin unintuitive or are looking for another input method for typing. I learned pinyin very young, so it's second nature for me. But for some learners, it's difficult and may distract them from reading characters. Bopomofo offers an alternative.
You're really interested in Taiwanese culture and want to deepen your understanding of it. My Taiwanese American friend tells me that you can find bopomofo in materials like children's books. I've also seen it used online, such as in it memes by Taiwanese netizens.
You're a total language nerd and think it would be fun. It's been a fun challenge to learn something completely new to me after so many years of learning Chinese. It's forced me to reexamine the language and how pinyin works too!
How I'm learning bopomofo
My method is nothing fancy. First, I wrote down all the symbols my notebook and practiced converting syllables from pinyin to zhuyin fuhao. After that, I added the zhuyin keyboard to my phone and switched to practicing via typing.
As you may or may not know, I'm kind of obsessed with chengyu and try to learn a new one each day. So I practice typing with zhuyin fuhao daily by typing out my new chengyu of the day.
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*Technically you are supposed to type the tone marks too, but I'm lazy and usually don't do that. **Like with the pinyin keyboard, you can also input text by just typing the initials.
The downside of my method is that I fear I'm memorizing positions on the keyboard instead of the actual symbols. If you as me to read something written in zhuyin, I would need some time to decipher it. But I actually tried learning zhuyin previously using flashcards, and it didn't stick at all. So this typing method, while flawed, has worked for me because I've been able to practice consistently—a little bit every day!
I don't think I can write zhuyin out by hand, but I don't have to worry about my bad dream coming true anymore!
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hsinnii · 4 months
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Since my first term at my new school is over and I have above the required gpa I am finally eligible for study abroad!!!
I submitted my application for the program yesterday and have already been conditionally accepted to go by my school as long as i’m accepted into the program.
and the country i applied to is….. 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
Taiwan!
the program is in taipei specifically, and on a university campus. if accepted ill also have a chance to visit tainan and taitung.
i’d be going for about 2 months over the summer for an accelerated/intensive mandarin course. it’d be the entire intermediate level (= CHN201+202 in U.S. college credit). as far as I know I’d have class 5 days a week while there. i’m taking CHN 102 (upper elementary) in the spring here at home to prepare and spending my break reviewing stuff from 101 as well as teaching myself zhuyin/bopomofo.
if anyone has good resources for zhuyin, traditional characters, and/or taiwanese mandarin lmk!! im trying to find everything i can then i’ll compile a list of what was most helpful sometime during or at the end of the semester :))
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constructbreakdown · 7 months
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Another video for my new YouTube channel, Construct Breakdown. This time I made a compilation video of a trip to Taiwan that I took in 2018.
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polyglot-thought · 2 years
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[Mandarin->English] @jamesiscurlytoo August 16th 2022 Instagram Post - Color Coded Translation (Intermediate)
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阿姨:你知道刺青刺下去就是一輩子了嗎?
ㄚㄧˊ:ㄋㄧˇㄓㄉㄠˋㄘˋㄑㄧㄥㄘˋㄒㄧㄚˋㄑㄩˋㄐㄧㄡˋㄕˋ ㄧㄅㄟˋㄗ˙ㄌㄜ˙ㄇㄚ˙
阿姨:你知道刺青刺下去就是一辈子了吗?
ā yí: nǐ zhī dào cì qīng cì xià qù jiù shì yī bèi zi le ma
Auntie: You know going on and getting a tattoo (tatted) is for (a) life(time)?
我:對阿,不像你的婚姻
ㄨㄛˇ:ㄉㄨㄟˋㄚ,ㄅㄨˋㄒㄧㄤˋㄋㄧˇㄉㄜ˙ㄏㄨㄣㄧㄣ
我:对阿,不像你的婚姻
wǒ:duì ā,bù xiàng nǐ de hūn yīn
Me: Correct, not like your marriage
家庭聚會上的其他人:
ㄐㄧㄚㄊㄧㄥˊㄐㄩˋㄏㄨㄟˋㄕㄤˋㄉㄜ˙ㄑㄧˊㄊㄚㄖㄣˊ:
家庭聚会上的其他人:
jiā tíng jù huì shàng de qí tā rén:
Everyone else at the family get-together:
#姆土捲* #管好你自己
#ㄇㄨˇㄊㄨˇㄐㄩㄢˇ* #ㄍㄨㄢˇㄏㄠ˙ㄋˇㄗˋㄐㄧˇ
#姆土卷* #管好你自己
#mǔ tǔ juǎn* #guǎn hao nǐ zì jǐ
#mu tu juan #Take good care of yourself
 *There is no direct translation for this, but it seems to be OP’s trademark hashtag and page name on other platforms
Please correct me if I made a mistake
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tonytsai · 1 month
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Francis tentou falar a palavra água em mandarim, porém acabou falando a palavra dormir...
Descubra as grandes vantagens e diferenciais que garantirão sua fluência em Mandarim, incluindo pronúncias e entonações precisas, ao adotar a metodologia do Prof. Tsai, com mais de 20 anos de experiência didática. Conheça também a satisfação dos nossos alunos por meio de seus depoimentos. Maiores informações sobre curso de Mandarim online:https://centrotaoista.com.br/curso-de-mandarim/ O CTCL…
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anceau-pl · 1 year
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ㄎㄧㄤ life
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fishboiiii · 2 years
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a good friend had the idea of making xuan yuan og and sg self cest, ayon doodled a zhuyin version kekeke
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qqgk · 2 years
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like each of these covers (3, 4, and 5 of the thai ver)... just all so so gorgeous and atmospheric to each couple 
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smol-stardust · 28 days
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having a greek keyboard not because i’m greek or can speak it well, but a secret third thing (for ease in typing up physics and chem lab reports)
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mvsicinthedvrk · 3 months
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starter for filippa & zhuyin // @masqce
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"Do you have an idea of what you're going for?" Filippa asks directly, already flipping through one of the racks of trousers, though truth be told, she's got some at home that might work just as well. Ideally, they can get in and out of here in thirty minutes or less; figuring out what to wear is arguably the least important thing about the ball, and there's really no point agonizing in decision over something that'll only be guaranteed to be worn once. "I want to find the blazer section, myself."
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don-dake · 1 year
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ㄓㄨˋ ㄧㄣ ㄈㄨˊ ㄏㄠˋ ㄅㄧㄠˇ
注 音 符 號 表 (zhùyīn fúhào chart aka bopomofo chart)
For future reference.
Have long toyed with the idea of learning the “bopomofo” system and seeing linghxr's post on this recently was the catalyst I needed to ignite my interest and motivation again.
Learning Zhùyīn may actually also prove useful some time!
(Still remembering that time when I was presented with only — not the norm at all — a Zhùyīn keyboard to search for Chinese books at a bookshop and couldn't do it because I knew diddly-squat about bopomofo.)
It could also be fun to type messages in these characters like it's some kind of secret code, considering how not many people outside Taiwan nowadays learn Zhùyīn. Heh! Let's see how this goes!
ㄘㄨㄥˊㄒㄧㄢˋㄗㄞˋㄎㄞㄕˇ,ㄖㄨˊㄍㄨㄛˇㄕˋㄗㄞˋㄐㄧㄤˇㄆㄨˇㄊㄨㄥㄏㄨㄚˋ,ㄐㄧㄡˋㄉㄟˇㄌㄧㄢˋㄒㄧˊㄩㄥˋㄧˊㄒㄧㄚˋㄓㄨˋㄧㄣㄈㄨˊㄏㄠˋㄌㄞˊㄉㄚˇㄔㄨㄓㄨㄥㄨㄣˊㄗˋ。ㄒㄧㄨㄤˋㄓㄜˋㄐㄧˇㄍㄜ·ㄗˋㄏㄞˊㄉㄚˇㄉㄜˊㄏㄜˊㄍㄜˊㄅㄚ·!
從現在開始,如果是在講普通話,就得練習用一下注音符號來打出中文字。希望這幾個字還打得合格吧!
Okay…that ↑ took me an obscene amount of time to type out! But it was also fun and with practise, I should get better?
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buried-in-stardust · 1 year
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My own accent fucks me over sometimes lmao. I was messaging my mum about taxes, tried to type "baosui" and was confused as to why 報稅 (baoshui) wasn't popping up
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spellbcok · 2 months
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a closed starter for qi zhuyin ( @masqce )
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"looks like tonight will end uneventfully," dohee commented as she joined her bodyguard's side. her blind date was somewhere, and had been there for who knows how long now. she likely scared him away with her talks of elopement and prenup requirements. it was for the better, she ecided. what she needed was a husband, not a sweetheart. "at least for me. there's neither an attempt at murder or marriage to be committed tonight."
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coreofgold · 3 months
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@masqce for Qi Zhuyin
"Are you on a blind date too?" Ding Tao asks. "Or are you just exploring the party? This day for Valentine seems to be a popular thing"
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thedragonholder · 3 months
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The kung-Kang family.
It has been a long time almost twenty-five years since tournament, twenty-five years since kung Lao, Liu kang, Kitana and jade became revenants, twenty-five years since some revenants returned to human and twenty years since the war had begun between NetherRealm and outworld.
The war has been going on for a long time since all these events have happened the gods thought they know who lived and who died but what they did not know was that there were people who were hidden from their eyes.
In a faraway land in Japan was the inari village where people lived in small villages away from the city the crime rates were high but strange things kept happening around the village things no one would remember especially about how the things had ended.
"Zhuyin How much longer do we have to keep walking? "A girl with black hair in twin braids with bangs in the front she had fair skin and black eyes she wore a black inner robe under blue hanfu that was tied up with a blue belt and she also wore brown arm guards and black boots "just a few more minutes Yijun" a boy with black hair in a low ponytail and tan skin with brown eyes said he wore a white buttoned up shirt under a red hanfu that was tied up with a red belt on his waist he also wore black pants and black boots "you said that five minutes ago Yijun" Zhuyin said to Yijun "maybe it would help if you keep quiet instead of being annoying all the time" Zhiyun said to Yijun with a frown Yijun rolled his eyes at her "whatever" Yijun said to Zhuyin.
The village was currently at peace in the morning with the people doing their usual some selling stuff in markets and shops, some buying stuff, some travelling and trading stuff from other villages and Yijun was looking around while Zhuyin was walking ahead to find an inn if they have enough money "hey have you sensed any of dads soldiers anywhere?" Yijun asked a bit scared "no I haven't which is a bit strange" Zhuyin said to Yijun "if he didn't, I am glad but what if sends aunty?" Yijun asked Zhuyin a bit scared "no he would not" Zhuyin said to Yijun.
meanwhile a boy with long brown hair in a half up and half down with a small bun on top and amber eyes with pale skin noticed the two siblings with pale skin he was wearing white robes with bandages wrapped around his neck he also wore brown shoes along with his arms he was currently at the vegetable shop buying some stuff "how much for the carrot?" the man asked, "30 yen" the vegetable vender said the man looked confused "isn't that a bit pricy for one carrot?" the man asked "business is going bad kid now either buy it or scram!!" the vegetable vender said to the man "are you sure the business is going bad or just your vegetables?" another man came he had brown hair in a high ponytail he had tan skin and hazel eyes he wore a blue haori over a coffee brown kimono and black pants he also wore black boots "what are you talking about!? my vegetables are fresh!!" the vegetable vender said "not to me they are not-" "Hiroto- nii san maybe we should leave" the man said to Hiroto who looked at him "yea there will be shops with good vegetables Ryu" Hiroto said to Ryu.
As they were going to go something happened the ground shook creating a small earthquake suddenly the ground shook again and again as a creature was coming for the village it looked like two giant manticores and this sent the village into panic as they ran hid in shops suddenly the two manticores ran to Yijun and Zhuyin direction to attack them "looks like dad sent them" Zhuyin said "but there aren't manticores in the nether realm" Yijun said to Zhuyin "then who else will-" " watch out!!" Zhuyin and Yijun looked in front only to see the manticores getting blasted away with two men standing in front of them "what are you doing it's dangerous!!" Zhuyin said "looks like we have some newcomers Ryu" Hiroto said to Ryu with a smirk 'I know but manticores escaping the forest is unusual" Ryu said "Lian.." Hiroto mumbled to himself.
"Shall we put them back brother?" Ryu asked, "I will take the one on the left" Hiroto said as he put on a shaolin hat Zhuyin was shocked seeing the hat 'it looks like the rogue revenants? who are they?" Zhuyin thought seeing Hiroto wear his razor brimmed hat.
both of the manticores rushed towards the two siblings Hiroto took his razor brimmed hat and threw it towards one of the manticores who jumped over it is causing the hat to go afar but Hiroto smirked as the hat came back and sliced the manticores tail off Hiroto then teleported above the minotaur in midair and used wind blade it went through the manticore killing it.
'His attacks seem out of range but his aura_' "watch out!!" Zhuyin's thoughts got interrupted as Ryu pushed him afar and accidentally got on top of him as they dodged the second manticore' tail Zhuyin looked at Ryu who smiled at him "are you alright?" Ryu asked Zhuyin blushed slightly seeing Ryu close to him and his bright smile "I'm fine" Zhuyin said, and Ryu got off Zhuyin "stay here I will Handle this" Ryu said to Zhuyin as he faced the manticore.
Ryu kicked his feet on the ground and levitated a boulder he punched the boulder sending it fast towards the manticore causing it to fly Ryu then created orange aura around his hands as the white bandage in his arms wrapped around the manticores head using it to lift the manticore's knocked out body and he sent the boulder towards the manticores stomach causing blood tor burst out creating the manticore turned into dust along with the other.
Ryu and hiroto walked to the vegetable vender "we will be taking these" hiroto said ryu took the carrots and his grocery bag "so dumplings or vegetable rice?" Ryu asked as they walked together "dumplings i guess i am in the mood for some heavy dinner" Hiroto said to ryu "I'll be making other stuff too Hiroto" ryu said to hiroto "and lian will be helping you as her punishment" hiroto said to ryu "really nii-san?" Ryu asked Hiroto.
Yijun went to zhuyin and helped him up "are you alright?" Yijun asked "I am fine" Zhuyin mumbled "those brats!! They expect us to give them stuff just because they defeat monsters for us!!" The rude vegetable vendor said "if it weren't for them our village would have been destroyed you dumb vendor!!" One of the villagers said "but you don't know who their family is plus that hat looks like that damn revenants!!" The vegetable vender said "may i ask who?" Zhuyin asked the vender he had guessed who it might be "i don't remember-" "was it kung lao!?" Yijun asked the vegetable vender his eye's widened and he nodded "yes that's the name but the strange thing is no one knows where they live and no one can even trace them" the vegetable vender said.
"looks like this just got more complicated yijun but if it connects to him then it looks like both are closer than we thought" zhuyin said to yijun "let's find an inn to rest first " yijun said to zhuyin as both of them Went to look for an inn still wondering about the two brothers they saw but something was definitely right there was a connection Between them and the rogue revenant and they just need to find it out.
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