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secretsofdbz · 2 months

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Alright, timelines. (link to my old post)

Today I'm going to walk you through the cluster fuck of Toriyama not paying attention to what he writes from the Trunks arc to the epilogue of the Perfect Cell arc.

Reminder that I divide the "Android Saga" in 4 arcs:

Trunks arc (arrival of Frieza to 3yg training),

Android arc (until the time machine is discovered)

Imperfect Cell arc (until Cell absorbs 18)

Perfect Cell arc (+ epilogue of Trunks killing imperfect Cell)

I will also pull Toei and Daizenshu content if needed just to show how bad it gets, BUT that's just to enhance my argument. Everything here is manga-deductible without extra context or content.

As I've shown in the link above, the manga implies 4 timelines:

Forgotten timeline (Cell kills Trunks and steals his time machine),

Lost timeline (the timeline that dead!Trunks traveled to, which did not have a Cell pop in the middle of its Android Saga, otherwise Trunks would've known about Cell),

Future Timeline (the one we know and see, Trunks traveled to a uni where Cell traveled to first, so there's changes and Cell pops up in the Android saga),

Main Timeline (the one we know and follow, to which Cell and Trunks traveled to),

Let's go into details about dates and math and everything first. (under the read more because LONG)

When Future Trunks discovers dead!Trunks' time machine, he states that it comes from age 788, which is 3 years from where he comes from (which means he comes from 785), and that the Machine landed here "4 years ago". 4 years ago was about one year before Trunks first came (aka one year before Meca Frieza stuff).

During the first trip, Trunks states he comes from 20 years into the future.

That means during his first trip, he went from 784/785 to 764.

We also know he's 17 at this point and "will be born in 2 and a half years"

(Baby Trunks is supposed to be ~6 months old by May 12th, 767, so "I warn in 764, I'll be born in 2.5 years, so I was born in 766" works. Ignoring the wikis about Trunks' birthday being June and Future Trunks' birthday being in November, it doesn't matter here, we just need the years))

For Trunks to be 17 during his first trip, he needs to travel from 784 (before his 18th birthday). So by the time he comes back the second time, it needs to be in 785 (so he is 18!); since it takes 8 months to charge the machine (Trunks the Story manga chapter), that works out.

So in terms of trips, we have:

Trunks (both versions) : (early-mid) 784 to 764

Trunks (both versions): (early-ish) 785 to May 12th 767

Cell: 788 to 763

(handy recap sheet)

At the time, for Toei, there were only two Timelines (aka it was both multiverse theory AND dynamic time travel theory, because Trunks becoming aware of Cell who killed him means Trunks isn't killed by Cell... yeah it's all sorts of EHH ??):

Anyway, you'd think this would be fine right? The image of Cell killing Trunks while he still had his sword (which he shouldn't since he broke it on 18's arm he never used it again in canon) is anime filler, we're all good.

Except... no. This fucking panel right here. Cell explains "(the machine/bots collecting dna) could've gotten Trunks cells but didn't because we had enough Saiyan cells".

Cell supposedly comes from a timeline where GOKU killed Frieza and Cold. But this god forsaken panel contradicts that. (of course it's just that Tori forgot, but we are DB fans, we take things seriously and word of god of the manga is supreme and can't be wrong)

This means that THIS particular version of Cell doesn't come from the Forgotten Timeline.

The Cell we know and love/hate comes from a timeline in which a future Trunks killed Frieza and Cold, BUT everything still went to shit (Goku + gang dying, dead!Trunks traveling to the past, and coming back to destroy the Androids).

In this timeline, Bulma met Future Trunks (who killed Cold and Frieza) in 764, presumably the gang got all the warnings like in the main timeline, but everyone STILL died. So she invented the Time Machine to send her Trunks to the past (perhaps with different instructions so as to not repeat the mistakes of the Future Trunks she saw 20 years prior).

Here's the thing. There is a way for this timeline to exist. You "just" gotta work on the postulate that "each time there's a time travel to the past, a new branch is created". And "if the time machine travels back in time a second time, it lands in the timeline it first branched out unless it travels back further in time". Rephrased: The "784 to 764" trip created a new branch in 764. The "785 to 767" trip landed in that new 764 branch. However the "788 to 763" trip created a whole new branch in 763.

The Time Machine that was piloted by dead!Trunks actually "traveled further back in time", creating an earlier "branch"... which is why Trunks noticed changes, including Goku's late arrival (or Frieza's earlier arrival, we don't know).

Yes, because Future Goku did not use Instant Transmission to fight Frieza and Cold. We know he didn't because Future Bulma had the coordinates where Goku landed, which is how Future Trunks got said coordinates. If Goku had IT to fight Frieza and Cold, Bulma wouldn't have known where the pod was going to land 3 hours later.

So timelines and where does Cell come from? Well you need a timeline from the Branch that started in 764 (with a Future Trunks' arrival to kill Frieza and Cold) but in which everyone died to the Androids, and in which, when Trunks traveled back home, he was able to destroy the Androids...

Anyway here's my final recap of all the timelines in Z, in which "one time travel is one interference creating a new branch". And this is how we can see where Cell comes from :D

This opens a realm of possibilities!!

Did a version of Trunks stay in the past, during his first trip and got a wish to Shenron to have a way to destroy his androids, so he didn't come back in 767 and didn't grow strong at all? Did the future trunks that warned against the Androids but that timeline still went to shit approached the problem differently?? who knows! Time for fanfics and doujins I guess :D

Peace!

#time travel #dragon ball #dragon ball z #von rambles #future trunks #future goku #future bulma #time machine #dbz #db #bulma #timelines #obviously Toriyama just forgot and or didn't pay attention to what he was laying out but I love nitpicking and extrapolating from this stuff

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jennifer-jeong · 25 days

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[Smut] [x AFAB!Reader] Cinematography

CONTENT

Men who’d take videos of your cum covered body or face to save for later. NSFW, 18+, smut, assigned female at birth (AFAB) reader, implied feminine reader (he calls you a "good girl" etc.), exhibitionism if you squint, praise, filming sex, making porn basically, vaginal penetration, implied blowjob/face fucking, alludes to cunnilingus, cum on body, swallowing cum, facial, ALL CHARACTERS ARE 18+

Ones you probably expected FUSHIGURO TOJI, RYOMEN SUKUNA, GOJO SATORU, CHILDE, KAEYA, UZUI TENGEN, MIGUEL O’HARA, MARIUS VON HAGEN

Ones that you might not have expected but they do it possessively KAMO CHOSO, NANAMI KENTO, FUSHIGURO MEGUMI, ALHAITHAM, HEIZOU

Word Count: 627

There’s something about filming fucking you from behind with the flash on that turns him on like crazy. The way your ass bounces and the plush flesh recoils makes him lightheaded. The sounds that fill the room turn you both on, making you extra sensitive. The light slapping of skin, the wet “plap” noises, the sound of his veiny cock dragging on your slick walls, hitting the deep bundle of nerves in you with every thrust. There’s a visible ring of cream around the base of his cock and there’s a clear shine because the flash reflects off how wet you are and how much you’ve coated his dick. You can’t explain why, but it has you reaching your high faster than you expected.

Maybe it’s the way that he eggs you on more, saying things like “behave for the camera, darling,” or when he talks to the phone like “look at you, taking it so well… Such a good fucking girl.” Maybe you secretly liked being filmed, even though you knew no one would ever see it but you and him. Maybe you liked the nasty idea of being watched, even if only by your boyfriend when he opens the video in the future to pleasure himself to.

You don’t dwell on the thoughts for long though, your impending orgasm pulling you out of your pondering. You give him a short and strained sob of a warning before you clamp down on him. You moan into the pillow you shoved your face into to contain your uncontrollable voice. Waves of pleasure crash through your body as you visibly shake for the camera. The scene in front of him plus the tightening of your pussy around him has his eyes rolling back and has him cumming in a few strokes. He shoots his load all over your ass and back, a few ropes of cum reaching your upper back. He kneads your ass as he enjoys his afterglow and ends the recording after properly capturing your cum covered body. But he’ll still stay there, cooing praises and telling you how well you did. He’ll sit there, admiring his work. Seeing his cum drip down your ass is such a filthy and sinful view, he just can’t help how satisfied it makes him feel.

Other times he’ll have your pretty self on your knees, filming you with your tongue out, doe eyes looking up at him as he pumps his cock with his hand. You’ve just sucked the soul out of him, deepthroating him and letting him face fuck you. He’s already so close and you’re basically asking him to paint your face with how you’re looking at him. The whole situation makes your needy cunt clench around nothing. He knows that you deserve a reward and he’ll either fuck it into you or eat you out to give it to you after this. So, he finishes quickly so he can take care of you fast. He groans out to let you know he’s about to cum. He aims for your mouth but towards the end, he covers your face with his release. It forces you to close an eye shut to avoid any unwanted inconvenience.

He records the whole thing using the room’s ambient lighting instead of flash, the flash sometimes doesn’t capture your cute face properly since the camera is a bit far away, so he chooses this. For him, the whole point of filming is to capture your lovely expressions, especially when, after he finishes, you swallow and open your mouth to show him you didn’t waste a drop. He praises you a bit before ending the recording and giving you the reward you deserve for being his pretty and good girl.

Thank you for reading!

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gghero · 11 months

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happy June

#fire emblem #three houses #three hopes #linhardt von hevring #funny #gghero rambles #linhardt (fe)#fe #fe3h #few3h

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magical-girl-trucy · 3 months

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Me 'n my brother were joking about aa7 and here's our pitch for the game:

Every case has the defendant be a main character who hasn't been accused yet.

The game starts with Phoenix receiving a call at 1am where he is being demanded to go to the detention center right there and then. It's *dramatic reveal* Franziska von Karma. She's been accused of murder and she is outraged. And also intimidated the guards into allowing her to have a visitor at 1am.

2nd case is Apollo the man who thought he could get away with being part of the WAA and not being accused of murder.

3rd case? Klavier Gavin! Back to back the lawyers of aa4 get accused of murder :)

The 4th case is *trumpet sounds* Pearl Fey. This one is the most dramatic because PEARL? Our little Pearls? Not a single person thinks she actually did it but the evidence is overwhelmingly against her and it leads to some chaos

#just for fun lol #aj rambles #ace attorney #franziska von karma #apollo justice #klavier gavin #pearl fey #<- only tagging the people who are being accused. bc funny

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awkwardtuatara · 6 months

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Thinking about how Moist's scams and cons are rooted in a cynical belief that those bastards would try to trick me if they could as well. That's his justification for his actions, other than just because he finds it thrilling. And he sees what he does as ultimately harmless - he doesn't kill or maim, slips in and out of lives without a trace - so he doesn't recognize that his actions have meaning until Mr Pump hits him with 2.338 statistical deaths, and doesn't accept it until he finds out Adora Belle was hurt by his scam.

He's wounded so many people. Sure there are the people he believes everyone to be, the ones he relies upon for his scams to work, who try to take advantage of him and are cheated in turn. But there are also desperate people, people who weren't directly involved like Adora Belle, maybe even people who against all odds still tried to be kind to a stranger and were punished for it. And he just isn't capable of realizing that maybe people are real for longer than he sees them for, that they have lives to live and worldviews that can be shredded with too many hurts. He can't accept that people are capable of more than cynical pragmatism, of don't hurt others because they might hurt me.

But all throughout Going Postal, that idea of his is disproven again and again. There's Stanley and Mr Groat, who eke out a little coexistence despite being forgotten, and the elderly postmasters who join him just because they loved their job; there's Adora Belle Dearheart, who was wounded and cheated in life from so many sides and still used that resentment to help marginalized people. Although his own perspective focuses more on who he is rather than a new understanding of who he was, and he rarely reflects on just how much his worldview changes from beginning to end (except when confronted by Adora Belle), he still goes from doing selfish things for selfish reasons to doing things that benefit everyone, especially those he cares about, for selfish reasons. He can still enjoy the exhilarating game of creating new personas and pushing his luck while believing a bit more that humans can be genuinely earnest people as well. And as he approaches that truth, he becomes invested in his life as well, because now he has to stick with it.

Going Postal's about redemption in many ways - the idea that atonement doesn't lie in fixing every mistake you've made, but in moving on and trying to prevent making them again, in recognizing your own crimes being done by others and working against them.

Isn't that at least a little hopeful? That, ultimately, the world isn't so cynical and bitter as you've based your entire life on? That it isn't so difficult to exist after all? It's a lot to take in, but so is any paradigm shift.

#I'm rambling - this is two different lines of thought stitched together #(his crimes against others being more serious than even the story recognizes #& his actions are rooted in cynicism that's disproved throughout the narrative)#what a guy #what a story #I love it so much #moist von lipwig #going postal #discworld #adora belle dearheart #gnu terry pratchett

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unxpctedlygreat · 1 year

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Rotating some blorbos...

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musashi · 2 months

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Hi! I decided to record 2 hours of myself talking about my personal pick for the best character in the AA trilogy.

I really wanted to upload this fully subtitled but the auto-captions apparently take forever to process... so here is is without for now and I'll go back in the next few days and try to up the accessibility on it.

If you want to hear me analyze Franziska to a deranged degree and talk about how she's the whole reason I even got into AA in the first place, here's two fucking hours of that for you!

MASSIVE THANKS TO @cryptidwithacopiccollection FOR ILLUSTRATING A GENEROUS HALF OF THIS VIDEO!!!!! I AM STILL IN AWE AT THE NUMBER OF PIECES SHE MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT PLEASE GO SHOW HER SOME LOVE

Reblogs, youtube comments, and youtube likes are always nice! Thanks so much!

#franziska von karma #karuma mei #pwaa #ace attorney #wendy talks #wendy rambles #wendy meta #a ton of the script for this was text posts i initially made on here #so if it sounds familliar...#Youtube

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shitpostingkats · 2 years

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I love you Edgeworth’s old fashion conjunctions I love you Franziska stubbornly and singularly screaming ‘fool’ as an insult I love you Sebastian constantly mistaking one word for another and having to correct himself I love you Badd trailing off into ellipsis every other word I love you Oldbag going on and on without pause until the textboxes go by too fast to read I love you Pearl breaking down words she doesn’t know into compound syllables and over-enunciating I love you Phoenix and Ryunosuke thinking they’re having an internal monologue but they’re really just muttering under their breath I love you Apollo’s random yelling I love you text based video games seeking to make every character voice unique and in doing so being completely inclusive and nonjudgmental of people with strange speech habits

#ace attorney #rambles #miles edgeworth #franziska von karma #sebastian debeste #tyrell badd #wendy oldbag #pearl fey #phoenix wright #ryunosuke naruhodo #apollo justice #dai gyakuten saiban #dgs #aa #aa investigations #tgaa #the great ace attorney

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landfilloftrash · 3 months

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seeing ghosts everywhere you go?

are they all in your head or are they here causing that chill in your bones?

#my art #Ace Attorney #Miles Edgeworth #Phoenix Wright #Gregory Edgeworth #Manfred von Karma #i think the concept of him seeing Actual Ghosts is delightful and should be expanded upon because YES. GET HAUNTED BITCH (affectionate)—#however; Metaphorical ones. Things he didn’t expect to see after Gregory was gone #the boy you have raised being like his father in every way you did not expect and it blind siding you every time no matter how you prepare #and the man who finally takes you down from your pedestal of godhood having the same gumption and determination #as the only man who could go against you toe to toe in court and scarred you in more ways than one #Manfred von Karma sees ghosts; it’s just up to your interpretation whether or not they’re real or crafted from his own guilt #rea rambles in the tags #small side note; it is *so* incredibly fun to draw him clutching his shoulder I’m sorry if you notice it a lot from me. ok thats it thank u #rea’s trash

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irlkisukeurahara · 4 months

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OBJECTION!!

#rambles with miles #ace attorney #ace attorney cosplay #holmat #holiday matsuri #cosplayer #cosplayers #cosplay meetup #franziska von karma #miles edgeworth #lana skye #ema skye #maya fey #mia fey #prosecutor godot #klavier gavin

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secretsofdbz · 2 months

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This fucking panel right here is what breaks the entire timelines and time travel situations in Dragon Ball.

Let me know in the replies and reblogs if you'd like an in depth analysis as to why! That's going to be a LONG article (without even talking about DBS, but DBS only duplicates the madness! XD )

edit: the post is up.

#future trunks #frieza #king cold #cell #von rambles

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reddiamondyeet · 7 months

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I'm fucking addicted to making these things.

#ace attorney #manfred von karma #blaise debeste #damon gant #sebastian debeste #do I tag miles...? fuck it #the miles fans need to see my scary brain ramblings #miles edgeworth #now personal tags #feeling good (like i should)#t two tool #all my troubles on a burning pile #rise above me #when you come undone I cover it up #these memes are my children #fav

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rainedroptalks · 1 year

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mechs au where lyfrassir escapes the bifrost and is jumping from planet to planet, and whenever they interact with the mechs it's always raphaella, marius and ivy. the rest of them are convinced those 3 just have an imaginary friend

#ramblings #the mechanisms #the bifrost incident #lyfrassir edda #marius von raum #ivy alexandria #raphaella la cognizi #they straight up kidnap lyfrassir at some point to prove their existence to the rest of the mechs

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gghero · 1 year

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my therapist: the discount Black Eagles in Bluey cant hurt you theyre not real

the discount Black Eagles in Bluey:

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magical-girl-trucy · 5 months

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Do you think Franziska kept the bullet...like she gets surgery to remove it and then like puts it on a display with an engraving that says "why you're better than him"

#aj rambles #ace attorney #franziska von karma

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worlds-worst-dad-competition · 1 year

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Nobody needed to know this, but my PFP is based off of this post:

#not competition related #it lives rent free in my head #always #ace attorney #manfred von karma #poggay rambles

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