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I know now without a doubt Kingdom Hearts is L—
No actually I think Kingdom Hearts is honestly purposely censored.
I used to be like well I don't think it's inherently the translators faults, Japanese is a tough language for people to know what it's referring to and likes to Americanized certain things like adding heteronormativity and romanizing things. People like romanticizing thingz so I can't exactly blame them it's part of westerners.
Like when you think of relationships most think of straight relationships so that probably what they thought of it's probably about even though the relationship doesn't really develop that much.
A lot of Action movies have the same problem when there is a male main character, there is always a forced romance with some side girl character when it's not a developed or good relationship it's just there to mark of the love interest category.
But now realizing how much Kingdom Hearts censors things, maybe they had an idea.
Some lines are WAY off from the original made to romanticized so much when the original wasn't even anything remotely like that or about a character in that way. And some scenes take out movements and edit it.
They change the entire meaning to censor things for American Audiences.
Nobody knows why.
And all I can think of is to make it have things that American Audiences would rather enjoy having romance in places unnecessarily or censoring things to be "safe"
I made a post about the Dream Drop Distance scene which gotten a crazy amount of attention only on the first few days it's at 300+notes, but the post was essentially about how when Sora was sleeping he tells Donald and Goofy it's his job to keep him on his toes and he puts his arm down in a fist. Then Riku moved his arm slightly to the left and put it in a fist again?
But the scene actually had Riku telling Donald and Goofy how he slapped Sora awake whenever he fell asleep on the beach and it shows Riku moving his hand in a slapping motion, not whatever that awkward motion was.
The thing is DDD was one of the side games and I thought they didn't pay much attention to the censoring in those. And given how gay DDD is and it wasn't as censoring their dynamic.
However, it got censored and it's like why? Did they think Audiences couldn't handle it?
Like it just seems like a silly thing he would do. It's kinda like how some people would pour water on someone to wake them up.
Like a teasing thing which he does A LOT and it probably wasn't that hard.
And other times I heard about how the language had some swearing or words that could be translated that way but of course since it's Disney the western version had to censor that.
The novels and manga actually still have more language in it.
And I think the main problem is Disney. They censor things a lot now.
They used to be more open to this kind of thing, but now they are soft and never take risks. I also heard how their team would edit things that would be in their original movie to tone it down for KH players.
It's kinda sad because there is definitely a lot of meaning to KH that is lost in translation. The battle with Vanitas is one in particular I had realized it's meaning is a bit more than the western version. The western version also simplifies things and tries to condense aspects as well. Xehanort's reason for everything is also worded very differently in the western version.
One of the reasons I look at fan translations is because it gives more meaning to certain events, not only because of dynamics and possible ships that are lost, but also explanations that are no longer there.
I'm so grateful for everyone who tries to retranslate things accurately and sometimes I use a site for certain things I'm curious but by no means do I speak their language and I get translation is hard, I really hope their future installments don't do this especially with KH4 and ML coming up in the next several years.
#soriku#kingdom hearts#translations#kh translations#kh censorship#the censorship is honestly real#Disney is probably the main team trying to censor things#but didney doesn't care about KH unless it does something with their properties#if they did care they would show it more#dream Drop Distance#kh3#chain of memories#heteronormativity#this plays a huge factor as well#Sora#Riku#kh Riku#kh Sora#I hope kh4 censorship won't do this
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fighting the urge to rewatch the untamed now that i actually understand what the heck is going on in mdzs thanks to reading the novel/watching the donghua
#ik theres censorship but i wanna get the real experience this time instead of being confused#i might just do it honestly#nico stuff#mdzs
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🎵 I think the thing people don't get about the "pro-ship/anti-ship" labels (and here I'm talking about the "pro-ship dni" trend and the targeting of AO3) is that "pro-ship" - or at least what gets labeled as such - is this massive umbrella. "I actively ship things that are 'problematic'" is "pro-ship," but "I don't give a fuck, I'm going to be an adult and follow the rule of 'don't like, don't read'" also gets labeled "pro-ship," even though it's more of a "fuck off with your harassment and censorship bullshit" than it is actually pro-anything. This is what happens when nuanced discussion dies and people try to make everything 100% black and white. Meanwhile, "anti-ship" is just "I am the morality police and believe it's better to harass and bully and threaten real people over fiction than to be reasonable and not read things I hate, because surely the censors will never come for me." Hate to break it to you, bud, but yes they will. I've watched it happen before with fandom and history is absolutely teeming with examples. They will come for you, no matter how "morally pure" you attempt to be. That's what they do.
#🎵 rowan#This post brought to you by my annoyance with the puritanical bullshit that seems to be taking over the internet.#What the fuck?#And honestly most of the puritans in question are fetuses compared to those of us who remember the fandom purges.#And compared to those of us who remember the standardized censorship of -ourselves- in media.#'Bury your gays' and all that.#Which never completely went away but the puritanical internet censorship committee seems real fucking set on bringing it back full force.#And that's a slippery slope you don't want to go down.#'If they come for me in the night then they will come for you in the morning.'#I cannot believe this is a thing I'm watching happen...
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i think that post expresses well what ive been trying to voice about how i advocate for sex positivity and kink but get annoyed at ''proshippers'' getting in the discussion is that it feels like when you say "sex and fetish/kink arent inherently immoral and you shouldnt hate something just because its sexual" some people seem to take it on the radical opposite statement of "sex and fetish/kink are NEVER immoral and its wrong to discuss the subject because thats equal to puritanism/censorship" and thats just not the same thing. i think sexual material is worth of being taken seriously and analysed and discussed and that does include discussing when its harmful or spreads harmful ideas or behaviors. i dont think sex between consenting adults should really ever be outlawed but that doesnt mean you are exempt from judgement. fetishes like inflation and feet and pooltoys or w/e are things i fully advocate to be socially acceptable because theyre genuinely not harmful in any way to anybody and are only ostracized for being "weird/gross". pedophilia or incest or raceplay fetishes arent ostracized just for being Weird but for including very harmful ideas that cause harm in the real world. sure, im not sending you to jail or whatever, but i still think you suck and i dont wanna be near you. and thats pretty understandable honestly
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being in true sexyman nostalgia mode today (on account of. IT'S BEEN ONE YEAR BABY.) i think one of the most fascinating things about it is that we will never manage to do that again. like, not in a "we couldn't organize it better" way; there were better ways to do the spreadsheet, we would just turn off comments on posts and anon asks from day one so that we wouldn't then get people accusing us of censorship while we tried and failed to control the tide of things that ended up in the comments and inbox, we'd definitely have a WAY higher non-hermit contingent, both thanks to qsmp and thanks to the sexyman blog and medusa now having MUCH wider reach to other corners of the fandom and the original spread not all rooting at me, etc.
but the reason we couldn't do it again is that i don't know if we could ever replicate the exact circumstances that lead to it blowing up quite to the extent it blew up.
it was while tumblr polls and doing tumblr poll brackets on tumblr itself was still new-ish, and people were still excited about them. the idea of a mcytblr bracket was basically brand new; i won't claim we did it FIRST (because i have no idea if we did and doubt we did), but certainly we did it big first. so there's that; we can never again invent in real time "shit people are sending us threats about fraud lets legalize fraud because its funny, we can't stop it, and that neutralizes that drama as a thing anyone will take seriously", and then in turn accidentally invent a fandom culture of. um. wide-spread voter fraud.
(i don't know if we should apologize for, uh, causing the specific way mcytblr voter frauds. i still think it was better than the alternative at least, especially after seeing how so many other polls crashed and burned after us. there were MANY things we could have done better but i have seen SO MANY ways we could have done things worse since then so i think we came out looking pretty okay.)
but also: february 2023 was a very different time in mcytblr. we were in a hermitcraft dead period, where most of the hermits were either on vacation or playing tcg (which was fun, but didn't end up generating that much fandom activity by that time in february). the former dsmp crew was very much doing Nothing (and in that awkward space when the entire fandom knew dsmp 2 was never happening, but also people were still claiming it would happen, so it was just... busy waiting). qsmp didn't exist yet. there was no ongoing life series and wouldn't be for some time. i think even the dominioners and lifestealers were in a fairly dead zone. there was very little new for people to be excited about, mcyt content-wise.
enter: our poll. our poll which cleo then thinks its funny to call out on twitter. our poll, which was not only new mcyt content for the fandom to interact with (thanks to the fact we KEPT GETTING CC INTERACTIONS???), but participatory.
for about two weeks, we were the mcyt event de jour.
and like. the thing is. now we're in february 2024. mcyt is BOOMING. a new hermitcraft season JUST STARTED. we came off of vault hunters before that. meanwhile, qsmp just restarted and is, if i'm understanding correctly, booming. they just added a new guy! the two current juggernauts of the fandom are in FULL SWING. i honestly think we'd be somewhat overtaken by the fact things are actually happening in fandom. there's stuff to do that ISN'T go insane about a poll.
and it's not new, and we've seen it all before now, and frankly, it's hard to cause a mass hysteria event TWICE. lightning in a bottle, as they say.
i think part of the reason we all just REMEMBER mcytblr sexyman so much is that we could never, ever recreate it, so it remains crystalized in a single moment in time, impossible to replicate, forever memorable.
anyway: HAPPY ONE YEAR TO THE JOE HILLS SWEEP BABY,
#mcytblr sexyman#sorry i'm in nostalgia mode and feel like rambling. o7 happy one year to joe's victory
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Honestly I think one of the fundamental disconnects on this site, is people on this site will talk about censorship and false histories of the histories they learned in their grade/middle/high school, and will run under the assumption that these textbooks were written by/offer the general consensus of historians. For a lot of people, this is the majority of their exposure to history unless they dedicate time and energy to learning about new parts of history in more depth.
So you have things like people talking about historians refusing to acknowledge people's queerness. What they're often talking about and trying to express is how censored and biased their history textbooks in school were. This is the majority of their exposure to history, and their conception of the field.
For actual historians, that feels completely unfair and not representative of their work or what's actually in research and in the field. Because they think that this person is talking about Actual Historians and not the people that write the whitewashed textbooks that a lot of people grow up on.
I think it's important to recognize and clarify that gap, so that you can have both an acknowledgement of the censorship and whitewashing of a lot of people's major exposure to history, and also acknowledging the very real work being done by historians to preserve and study actual history with all of it's nuances.
#sif speaks#us politics#us schools#idk been seeing posts and I think that's kinda important to draw these lines
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with the fallout of bandai namco's idiotic "it's up to interpretation" bs, do you think that it's possible to enjoy queer media made in a corporate environment in addition to independent works? is it even worthwhile to attempt making queer media in a corporate environment? i find it special how well the g-witch production team managed to tell the story they wanted even with the challenges and pressures they faced, but i have to admit that independent works like slarpg are always going to more completely tell queer stories. as someone who has resonated with both slarpg and g-witch, i was curious to know your perspective.
i'm probably less cynical about this than a lot of my peers are - not that i can blame anyone for feeling cynical about queer rep from corporate-owned media. (we've been through so many First Ever Gay Disney Characters at this point, and lord knows blizzard loves to tease that another overwatch character might be gay every year or so as a PR move.) unfortunately it's just extremely hard to get something like a full season of an animated series funded and produced independently, so the artists looking to enter these fields and pour their hearts and souls into meaningful queer stories as a full-time job don't have many options
going indie gives you theoretically endless creative freedom to tell your stories without corporate censorship, but it's also a massive gamble. only an extreme minority of indie creatives in any medium are actually able to make a living. the fact that i came out the other side of slarpg's development with enough money that i can keep being a full-time indie instead of being in massive debt makes me one of the lucky ones. and even with my modest success, i sure as hell don't have the money to hire a whole team, which limits the scope of what i can make. so i can't turn my nose up at the queer people writing disney channel cartoons where they can't say the word "gay" out loud. they have health insurance, i don't. for most people, what i do is simply not an option
with the corporate-produced Queer Stories i enjoy, i'm often able to squint and see what the creatives were trying to do, wishing that they could have done more while understanding that they probably had to fight tooth and nail for what's there
in the realm of children's animation in particular, i'm thankful that the people working at these studios ARE fighting for more, because it means that kids today have so many more positive queer stories to relate with. i didn't have a single gay character i felt i could relate to until i read scott pilgrim at age 16 and saw wallace wells. before that, i felt so alone in the world. i denied who i was for years because it felt like there would be no place for me. i didn't know anyone openly gay in real life, growing up in the south, and in fiction gay people either existed as the butt of a joke or not at all. the fact that queer kids are now able to see people like themselves in so many shows means something, even if we still have a long way to go and the big studios continue to be a major obstacle
on the subject of g-witch, i'm honestly unfazed by the statement from bandai-namco. i guess i wish they could've let suletta and miorine kiss, but like... the text of the show is extremely blunt about them being a couple by the end. it's not up for debate. and it's not like a gundam series having a meaningful story in spite of the wishes of the toy-producing overlords is anything new, this is just our latest example
all that being said, i do think people should branch out more and explore more weird indie shit if they want more wholeheartedly, openly queer stories. people gotta suck it up and embrace more outsider art instead of only valuing things with studio-level production values. start looking at ren'py visual novels, rpg maker games, obscure webcomics, zines drawn in sharpie, artists on bandcamp who aren't signed to a label, all that jazz. maybe part of the reason why i'm not more fazed by the state of affairs with corporate-funded fiction is that i'm constantly surrounded by furry artists who are telling their own little gay stories
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honestly the skullgirls censorship is 100% okay, good even.
It really isn't.
Censorship is a constantly advancing tide and without pushback it will eventually come for the artists and art you like. The only way you can stop this is to stand against censorship, even of art you dislike or find distasteful.
There are only specific cases where art has to be curtailed and it has nothing to do with offense or discomfort. It has everything to do with if real people are being harmed. And even then, these aren't clear cut because what constitutes 'harm' is a scale.
This isn't even touching on the fact that censoring and changing the paid digital artbook is extremely scummy. Remember, people bought the art book for the guest art (removed) and concept art (censored). It highlights the problem with digital media and how companies can (and will) erase things in acts of revisionism at the cost of accuracy, the consumer and authenticity.
And then there's the fact that Skullgirls was crowdfunded. People funded the game based on expectations; expectations that are being violated. Stretch goals that were met and added to the game are now being removed. How is that appropriate?
The Skullgirls debacle is bad. It is bad from a censorship point of view. It is bad from a media history point of view. It is bad from a consumer point of view.
As an artist and someone concerned with good consumer practices, this is an abhorrent situation.
Nothing about it is good. Please, sit down and reconsider your position. Saying "censorship is good" should be an immediate red flag that you are not one of the good guys.
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The thing I still do not get about true crime self-censorship on YouTube is that there are those media library channels that upload tv crime documentaries that call stuff by its real name like they say “suicide” not “self-cancel” (it’s so fucking weird when someone with a somber tone says that) and “murder” and “rape” (as opposed to simply “assault” even though “assault” can mean an entirely different thing)
And like those channels don’t use sponsors typically they seem to be entirely funded by YouTube ad revenue so like what’s up with that? I honestly think a lot of the “censorship” paranoia is more akin to the logic of a superstition
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I have a question. I’m new to the discourse around fanfiction & censorship, so I was curious about what the general consensus regarding fic about underaged characters in live action media was. Underage is my biggest squick, but I feel pretty neutral about how people write/draw smut of cartoon characters, as they barely register as human for me. Characters played by actual child actors though… I guess I’m just wondering what’s going through the heads of people who write that stuff? Or minor rpf for that matter. What is appealing about it? I’m willing suspend my disbelief & accept that they don’t actually want to abuse kids, but like, what is fulfilling about that fantasy? I’m not in favor of censorship or arresting anyone over a fictional story, but I just can’t wrap my head around it.
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That's quite a failure of imagination there, anon.
Other people are not you, and they don't necessarily have this squick. That's the main answer.
From people who don't try to problematize this, there isn't really any discourse. Fiction is fiction.
Cartoon characters register as people to plenty of viewers. (And moron antis think cartoon characters count just as much as live action ones when it comes to screaming about problematicness.) Actors playing teenagers are often in their 20s. Coming of age novels dealing with sexuality have been normal all over the world since forever.
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But let's start with some low hanging fruit:
If you're 17 years + 364 days, you're below the age of consent lots of places. Do you, anon, honestly think it's weird to be into someone one day before their 18th birthday but not the day after? What if you live somewhere where the age of consent is 16? Is it still weird to be into 17-year-olds from places where the age of consent is 18?
Most people remember being teenagers. They may feel nostalgic. They may want to imagine the nice teenage experiences they never got to have.
Lots of fic writers are currently teenagers. Not as many as ageist online spaces think, but still quite a lot. Is it weirder for a 15-year-old to have a crush on a 15-year-old than a 40-year-old?
"They looked 18, Your Honor" is a weak-ass excuse for fucking underage people in real life, but that's not the same as finding characters on your tv hot. Not only are the actors usually above 18 because filming underage actors is a fucking nightmare logistically due to work constraints, but a lot of younger actors are often made up in ways that make them look like they could be way older. People also vary widely in how they look at various ages.
If you can accept that lust exists and is valid, you can accept that lots of people will see some teen and think they're hot. There isn't some specific categorical difference in how all teenagers look and how all 20-somethings look.
Doing something about it in real life and doing something about it in fiction are different.
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Now, as for "child actors", that term is used for a wide variety of ages, but let's assume you mean Stranger Things wank, like most people moaning about underage actor RPF do, so we're talking about tweens who genuinely do look pretty young to grown-ass adults.
The first thing I have to ask you is why the fuck you would imagine that writers identify with some adult fucking these kids? It's far, far more likely that they identify with the characters themselves or the actors.
Why would they identify with them? It could be anything from working through their own trauma at a similar age to just liking the vibe of a character because of how the show is written.
Lots of people's brains barf out dark scenarios 24/7 without them ever having experienced any major trauma and without it meaning anything much. Some people channel that into fiction.
If you are a boring person who has both a vanilla brain and no imagination, this might seem surprising to you, but it shouldn't.
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Moreover, your ask implies that underage fic is highly sexual or maybe coercive or something, but you haven't actually stated that. Are we talking about rapefic of 5-year-olds or about someone writing the Stranger Things characters holding hands?
Are you just not sexual at all, anon? Personally, I went from zero to MEGA HORNY at thirteen and a half. It was like a switch flipped. Sure, I wasn't getting any action because I was a zit-covered and socially incompetent 13-year-old, but I was definitely interested.
It's not strange that an artist or author of whatever sort would explore puberty in their art. It's not strange that they'd remember their own sexual awakening or that this awakening would be long before age 18.
It's also not strange if people write super dark shit about small children because it being extreme and taboo and horrible is often the point of art.
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You're "willing to suspend disbelief"? How magnanimous! How generous!
Seriously, anon?!
The way you've phrased this question makes it sound like you have a brain the size of a walnut.
Would you ask such a stupid question in such an offensively loaded manner about all the coming of age novels that are considered Great Literature™? Would you ask why YA exists?
And if you wouldn't, why is it that amateur writing by women and sexual minorities makes you nervous when mainstream-approved things don't?
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Let’s talk honestly
So I just wanna share where I’m at these days with Tumblr, the community, and some concerning developments as of late. Firstly, I want to thank all 5k of you for supporting me for almost a decade on this platform. It has been a wild ride with ups and downs but this community has really given me an overall positive impact on my self image, bettered my writing skills, and helped to come to terms with who I am as a person and as a kinkster. So above all, I have so much gratitude for y’all, thank you.
Over the last couple of months, I have taken notice to some difficulties on behalf of Tumblr and their censorship efforts against queer erotic writing. I have had to fight more flags and community labels than ever before, and it has really affected my desire and motivation to publish more stories. If only certain folks with their mature censor turned off can read my posts, that fuckin sucks. But I admittedly got rather stoned last night and thought about why Tumblr is cracking down so viciously on our content. I think I’ve come to my own conclusion there.
I am and have been extremely alarmed by a number of tropes that have become relatively commonplace in recently posted tf prose. As I have mentioned countless times before, underage people have no business being in your sexual fantasy fiction whatsoever. The amount of writers I’ve seen recently posting stories focusing on 12-16 year of children being erotically transformed is disturbing to put it delicately. Especially those which maintain the children’s psychological age intact, but even without that trope it is inappropriate, unacceptable, and should not be platformed on Tumblr.
In addition, I’d like to touch on another trope: homophobic tf. Now I have no issue whatsoever with Gay to straight, as being straight is a valid expression of sexual orientation. There is nothing wrong with featuring characters from a wide array of identities. That being said, this new content of lib to con, MAGA tf, gay bashing tf… it’s disgusting. In the current world we live in, these types of archetypical characters do exist in the real world and are causing real significant harm to queer folks. These groups of people are actively, in their own words, trying to eradicate the LGBT community in America. These types of people exist all over the world as well, and queer identifying people live in legitimate, actual fear for their lives. I question why we fetishize individuals who seek a literal genocide of an entire peoples, and whether it is acceptable to do so. I point to the fetishization of Nazism as an apt comparison: a hypermasculinized group of people who sought eradication of a group of people based solely on concrete identities which could not be changed. I believe we as a community have rightly deplatformed such content, and I cannot fathom why this current iteration is in such a Renaissance.
These are just two examples of obvious reasoning as to why Tumblr might righteously suppress tf erotica on their platform. Can I blame them? No. Frankly, I understand completely. If the community refuses to monitor and moderate its on content, then Tumblr as the platform most certainly will.
I’m unsure as to what the future looks like for Ides, as this current trajectory is not something I’d like to participate in. I’m hoping like minded writers will be a bit more critical in choosing the tropes and prompts for their stories, but in all honesty, I have significant doubts. Rest assured, I will touch base with y’all before I do anything drastic. But in my opinion, the writing is on the wall.
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@confusledqueer apologizes for not responding sooner, it’s been a busy couple days and—honestly—I forgot for a bit.
Moving on-
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Me equating some of the things that anti-Jedi people say to antisemitism and, sometimes, outright Nazi-esque rhetoric is not “wild” or “a stretch,” as you’re implying.
Justification of their genocide, denial that it actually was a genocide, a belief that the genocided party “caused” their own genocide, and a belief that they genocided party were wrong or “led astray” while one person was sent to make things right- (via either making them change their ways or outright destroying them/their culture) -are all things I’ve seen people say about the Jedi…
…but they’re also things that people have actually said about Jews.
Take the example I put in the post of someone denying that the Jedi Purge was actually a genocide, and how—by changing “Jedi” to “Judaism” and “Force-religions” to “Abrahamic Faiths”—it sounds verbatim to Holocaust denial.
Or, as another example, people claiming that the Jedi “kidnapped kids to brainwash them”…don’t you see how that sounds like Blood Libel?
So me pointing out that a lot of stuff anti-Jedi people say sounds like antisemitic rhetoric isn’t a stretch, not when a lot of it sounds verbatim to what people are saying with the rise of antisemitism and stuff they have said in the past.
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Now, I’m not Jewish, but it’s not just me, your neighborhood White Girl™️, who’s pointing this stuff out.
Actual Jewish people have pointed out the alarming similarities between anti-Jedi rhetoric and straight up antisemitism. So, if you wanna argue about- “you shouldn’t compare real world discrimination to fictional stuff” -then you should probably take that into account.
Go ahead and try telling Jewish Star Wars fans to stop calling out antisemitic rhetoric in the fandom, I’m sure that’ll go down real well.
I also find it hilarious that you’re telling me to be careful about the rhetoric I use in a thread about how I shouldn’t point out that some of the rhetoric other people spout is basically antisemitism rebranded.
And my point in that post wasn’t- “since this is based off of a real world culture/religion, you can’t criticize it.”
My point was- “since this is based off of a real world culture/religion then you need to be careful about how you criticize it, otherwise you might unconsciously be spouting bigoted beliefs and antisemitic rhetoric because you don’t recognize that that’s what it is because you’re saying it about a fictional culture.”
By all means, I get that some people just don’t like the Jedi, that’s their prerogative and we all have our own tastes.
Criticize them, if you feel like it, but don’t go around spouting rebranded antisemitism to do it. I’m sure you can come up with plenty of things to complain about them for without doing so.
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Now, I can understand why you might be worried about the slippery slope from this to shit like actual censorship—which, I think we can all agree, is a bad thing. Or how you might think criticizing this could lead to the whole “fandom purity” debate.
My thing is, it all comes down to does it actually harm people?
Perpetuating harmful stereotypes via saying stuff like the Jewish based characters “steal children,” or “lost their way,” or “they caused/deserved their genocide”—that does cause actual harm.
Think about why the “angry black man” stereotype or the “cheating bisexual” stereotype are bad and people- (rightly) -push back against them. It’s the same thing here.
Shipping a problematic ship, calling a fictional serial killer “babygirl,” writing about dark topics*, headcanoning characters as gay or trans…none of that is actively harming people.
(*obviously when writing about dark topics you should tag appropriately so people can avoid triggers, but that’s another topic for another day)
That’s the difference.
And, for the record, I think letting people spout bigotry just because they’re saying it about something fictional is the more dangerous mindset than calling it out.
#star wars#sw prequels#the clone wars#pro jedi#pro jedi order#in defense of the jedi#antisemitism#fandom meta#star wars meta#fandom wank
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Seeing another wave of people leaving Deviant Art because of the AI shit and censorship of criticism they've been pulling recently...
Unfortunately every single major platform has been diving head first into AI crap recently, so there is no real mainline safe haven for artists. Ive seen so many saying their jumping from Deviant Art to whatever platform but they're all just as bad as DA! Suppose least DA management is being open about their shittyness!
-Instagram/ Facebook has been actively feeding the art posted on their sites into their own plagiarism generator.
- Artstation also allows and also promotes AI grifters.
-Tumblr made a deal with mid journey to sell their user data, including artwork to them for the purposes of AI training.
-Twitter is working on its own Ai chat bot and is full to the brim of crypto bros and AI grifters. (And the community there is just a toxic bigoted cess pool.)
(The only somewhat mainstream exception is fur affinity but as I'm not a furry and don't make, or like looking at nsfw art, so I don't feel comfortable using that site...)
I know there's smaller platforms that are doing good things, comic fury for example, but after the Buzzly Art fiasco I've been completely burnt out on trying any new /independent/unproven platform again...
Honestly it's hard not to feel exhausted by it all as an artist... I know I've had work scraped and used in AI datasets, just as I had a number of my works stolen and minted as NFTs a year ago... And honestly it does upset me!
Sometimes I just wonder why I bother.
Anyway rant over... I'm just so tired of this shit to be honest...
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How to get a library card: the whole process.
Call your local library. Ask them how to get one.
Do what they tell you
The end.
...Okay I'm kidding.
Call your local library. Every library will have its own restrictions, so make sure that you double check with the library that you are in their service area and ask how to confirm such when you go in.
They usually ask you for documents, such as proof that you're a real human and proof that you live/work/are educated in their service area. This usually means going in with your driver's license, and if you're new in town, going in with a license plus your water bill/cell bill/electricity bill/rental agreement/credit bill to prove that you're paying something official at this address in town. If you're from out of the country but living here, that means whatever paper you need to prove you're tied to an address here plus your passport. Doesn't matter if it's foreign. It's from your government. It counts. If you're going to school/working, you might need to bring in a work id or school id, or even a bill or pay stub.
BUT you may be able to fill out half the paperwork online. This is why you call ahead to find out if they have a digital form on their website. This saves you from filling out the paper form in person.
You go in and fill out the paper form/confirm you did it digitally and show off your documents. Usually they just slap a card on the table right then HOWEVER:
Sometimes public libraries cost money for their cards. I consider this highway robbery. You may qualify for a card in a different service area, so don't immediately fork over $60 bucks or whatever they're asking without checking other libraries around you.
You might qualify for cards for more than one library, see above; some college libraries will let locals make cards, and some public libraries will let you make cards if you go to school or work in the area.
Yes, you can email your library instead of call, but we can guide you over the phone a lot faster than we can by email, and honestly, the immediate response of a phone is going to be way faster than trying to email us.
Sometimes there are other, secret fees, like charging you to borrow only certain items and not others. This has never made sense to me.
There may be other secrets your library card may offer you, such as ebooks or shows through libby/hoopla, museum passes, kits, and more! Ask what other services your library card offers you while you're at the desk!
There have been libraries giving out free cards to teens and those in censorship-affected areas in recent years. Keep an eye out for people who are advertising such online and follow up with that library following steps 1-3
Happy reading, happy listening, and happy visiting! Remember: read banned books, and don't talk to cops!
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So what do you think we're supposed to do here? "Stop making problematic content", alright then no more good plots, cause forget having a compelling story or well written characters. Flush down the toilet thousand of years of classic literature and shut down intellectual freedom, cause we all know how much that's problematic and evil, forget even trying to reflect critically on things at all. Most importantly though, let's just fuck over survival victims who dare to even try to express their trauma in a way they feel comfortable with. Of course, the fact that *they* might feel bothered or uncomfortable with your perfectly good and pure content, is simply their problem, it's all about you, don't worry.
Sarcasm aside, let's make one thing clear here: this "ban" (because let's face it, that's what you call censoring media) you're wishing for, is entirely about the content you dislike, stop trying to pretend as if you have a moral high ground when really all you are is selfish at best, and at worst a fascist. Funny how your first thought when you see something that you consider problematic, perhaps even written by a victim, is to censor it immediately cause you think it will "protect" people, as if the content is the issue in the first place. It's not the art, the fics, or the ships that groom you, it's abusers. Stop taking away accountability from their actions and giving them another shield to hide behind. Stop taking away victim's voices in the name of "protecting" imaginary people. You're not helping anyone, you're suffocating artistic freedom just like a conservative who wants to ban all queer media to prevent their child from somehow "turning" queer.
The anon you are referring to has half a brain to realize that you can't control the internet, let alone people's thoughts, so ultimately, YES. It IS your responsibility to block tags, blogs and filter out what you dislike, cause no one will do that for you, and honestly? They shouldn't have to. You say that by ignoring proshippers, you "enable" us, but the truth is, if everyone would bend to the likes of entitled people like you, then we'd be the ones enabling censorship and repression. You're not holding anyone accountable for their "actions", surely not by harassing them relentlessly to bully them off a platform for literal fiction. You know, the opposite of action. Instead of even entertaining the possibility that you may be the one harming real people (which you definitely are by harassing them), all you do is sit there and whine about how your boundaries are being infringed upon, completely disregarding that you're not putting any in place or that you may be violating the boundaries of the people you criticize first and foremost. The difference is that they will block you, but you will constantly leave it up to others, thus making any boundary you have completely useless.
Do better.
#proship#anti censorship#pro fic#pro fiction#pro ship#proship please interact#anti harassment#god antis are so full of shit it's unreal#discourse#my post
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A ramble.
Honestly I'm not surprised to hear about this KKK dark romance book
Mostly because I have already said that authors have been left to include very questionable things in books advertised as mainstream and even YA
readers are dismissed for calling out problematic elements, especially in regards to bipoc calling out white authors for racism
But also because Italian readers have called out dark romance authors and readers for romanticising the real life mafia while such organisations are directly involved in things like human trafficking and murder
Same with some biker gangs. Same with the Bratva. Same with the Cartels. Real people suffer and die everyday at the hands of these groups
So am I surprised that there's a book about a KKK member and a "Cartel princess"? Obviously not
In all honesty I don't know where the line is supposed to be drawn between exploring darker themes and content that needs to be red flagged. I don't believe in censorship but I think profiting off of dark material, putting it in the mainstream and promoting it is gross and should be unacceptable
And so often dark romance is just used as a blanket term to push violently misogynistic and subtly (or not so subtlety) racist content
Heroines in these romances skew white, virginal and uncomfortably young most of the time and when they aren't they are fetishised or hyper-sexualised
Romantasy and "booktok" in particular has become this surreal genre encroaching on YA/NA fantasy, determined to make smut the centre of every story
And publishers are behind it all, signing million dollar deals to sometimes subpar authors to push out these barely edited books that are high in smut and tropes but low in quality and plot
Idk what the solution is but something needs to change
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