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fandoomrants · 7 months

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Soo, I don't wanna be too grim about it but since we don't see lots of characters in the sequels whereas it would have made sense to see them there, I'm starting to think maybe some of them would be gone by the time ep 7 takes place.

Of course, the first one that would come to mind would be Ahsoka, and the finale of the Ahsoka's season might be giving some explanation for her absence. I have this theory she might not be coming back at all, even if it doesn't necessarily mean she's gonna die.

I hope Sabine comes back, tho. But I think even if she's alive during the events of ep 7, it doesn't make too much sense for her to show up as she's not exactly a powerful Jedi and she just started using the Force but she's not shown as someone who is strong with the Force. (Which I wanna see the explanation of because following this logic, anyone could be trained as a Jedi and eventually learn to use the Force.)

The (remaining) Ghost crew and some of the other rebels can be easily explained by being there but not being shown because they're not too relevant to the story.

And same goes for most of the characters from the Mandalorian and BoBF. They basically have nothing to do with the rebellion and the Jedi stuff. Except Grogu, ofc. But we already saw him training with Luke and deciding to return to Din where he started training as Mandalorian so maybe he won't become a Jedi at all, and is gonna remain (hopefully safe) with his dad.

And there's Jacen for whom everyone is a bit worried after getting the confirmation that he is Force sensitive but after the ending of Ahsoka, I really hope that he won't go to Luke. I want Ezra to train him. That would be great, considering how Ezra was trained by his father. It'll be *chef's kiss*. Still, there should be some explanation for him not showing up too.

And now comes Ezra, who is the main reason for this post, in fact. He was introduced in Rebels as an extremely strong with the Force boy, he was trained, and he's maybe currently one of the strongest remaining Jedi, alongside Ahsoka and Luke. So it would make a lot of sense that he'll be there, now that he's back.

And here comes the grim part. We saw Ezra sacrificing himself more or less when he called the Purrgils, and we saw him returning once again with Thrawn. We know Thrawn's a big threat to the Galaxy but we also know he's not in the sequels or even mentioned so most likely he's defeated before that. And here comes my theory how these two's paths are always crossed.

So, what if in order to defeat Thrawn and get rid of him forever, Ezra sacrifices himself again, this time dying. What then???

#star wars #ahsoka #rebels #ezra bridger #sabine wren #rant #the mandalorian #din djarin #grogu #din grogu #ahsoka tano #ahsoka series #thrawn #grand admiral thrawn #sw ep 7 #star wars sequel trilogy

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smolbean-17 · 2 months

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Ever since Joel teased that the red light shining on people equals something bad, I’ve been beside myself.

#it’s shining on Omega AND Hunter at the end of ep 7 #WHAT DOES IT MEAN #the bad batch #star wars #clone wars #sw tbb #tbb #star wars tbb #hunter the bad batch #omega the bad batch #the bad batch spoilers

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swan-orpheus · 1 year

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Nevermind me, just obsessed with the often overlooked subtleties of this show. This mini scene also gets its very own special, softly pretty, contemplative music.

Obviously, this is art. You have the glowing semi-circle of the med bay around which most of the Batch is clustered except for Echo who is standing on the edge of the frame. On the other side of the frame and also in the foreground, alone, is Rex. IT’S SYMBOLIC. ✨✨✨

Omega touching Wrecker’s cheek in a parallel to Rex placing his thumb on the face of his helmet before looking furtively over at Echo. Omega and Wrecker are family, but most of Rex’s family is gone. There’s only Echo now (from that photograph, and Cody but neither of them knows this.)

This is the sort of thing you could miss if you happened to look away for a second and it kills me.

#star wars #head empty just clones #sw the clone wars #sw the bad batch #captain rex #existential rex is my favorite rex #arc trooper echo #omega #wrecker #tech #hunter #season 1 ep 7 #battle scars #even the show title has a double meaning #i am not okay #feeling totally normal this evening #EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

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queen-of-many-fandoms · 1 year

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The latest episodes of The Bad Batch s2 have me losing my mind. Feloni is gonna have to pay for me to get therapy if this keeps up. I legit just sat staring at the wall for awhile after watching it.

(First time trying polls)

#star wars #the bad batch #the bad batch season two #tbb season 2 #ep 7 & 8 #tbb #sw tbb #no spoliers please

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scorpio-marionette · 1 year

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Is anyone just a Star Wars fan and not satisfied with the Sequel Trilogy?

Or do you perhaps know someone like this?

Because I'm writing something you might want to read and it should be done soon.

(Tagging to see if I have an audience for this here)

@misspearly1 @supernaturalgirl20 @sturkillerbase @writer-darling @amneris21 @kirsteng42 @trickstersp8 @harriedandharassed @boliv-jenta @minky77 @heythere-mel @littlemisspascal @practicalghost @oonajaeadira

#star wars rewrites #not a fix it fic #rewrite proposal #sw ep 7-9

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abigfanofstarwars · 1 year

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Im am typically awake for the episode releases bc of course work so in my mind tbb episodes come out tuesday ‘night’

and boy oh boy!! this is a two episode night ladies and gentlemen… and im not fucking ready ((as per usual))

are we gonna see crosshair these episodes ??

cody? 👀

is it time for our sweet sweet baby ✨rex✨ to come back in our lives???!

we’ve been sort of lucky these past couple weeks and haven’t had to endure any gut wrenching shit like ep3,, although last weeks was definitely no walk in the park,,

but the titles are

1. The Clone Conspiracy

2. Truth and Consequences

and that shit is making my ass clench in nerves a lil bit ngl

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canibalistic-brownie · 6 months

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In S2E4 (the dnd ep), Scorpia has a line, “she said ‘even you can’t mess that up’” which is very much something SW would’ve said to Catra. Catra took all the abuse she got (and is still getting) and weaponized it for later use.

Meanwhile in the camp Adora has a little meltdown about planning and says something on the lines of “if this plan isn’t perfect, if I’m not perfect…” and that is exactly the kind of thing SW would’ve said to Adora in the past. This idea that if anything goes wrong it’s her fault and she must be perfect 24/7 is something she still holds onto. This inability to relinquish control of the planning for even a moment because she’s the only one who can be perfect, the only one who MUST be perfect is so engrained in her that she cannot handle it.

Every episode is tinged with the shadows of their past and shared traumas.

#shera analysis 1 #adora #catra #spop #I’m gonna start using tags because people encouraged it but if you’re looking for the rest of my analysis it’s still in the first tag

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moongazeonastarfillednight · 23 days

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The Terror: When, How, Where... (PART 2)

See Part 1 here (ep 1 thru 5) See Part 3 here (Ep 10)

For Context I am trying to make a timeline with locations from The Terror. You will find here:

1. Probable location and coordinates

2. Probable date

3. Travel distance and speed

4. Death count

List of Locations identified so far:

Location 1 - David Young's grave (71.22, -96.60) - Sept 5 1846

Location 2 - Ships Position September 1846 (70.25, -98.00) - Sept 12 1846

Location 3 - Ships Position June 1847 (70.15, -98.30) - May 24 to Jun 11 1847

Location 4 & 5 - The Cairn and the Ice Camp (69.66, -98.27) - May 28 1847

Location 6- The Ships in January 1848 (70.055, -98.59) - January 10th- 17th 1848

Location 7- The Ships in April 1848 (69.88, -98.57) - April 22nd 1848

Location 8 - Fairholmes' Last Resting Place (69.72, -98.35) - April 23rd 1848

Location 9 - Terror Camp (69.644, -98.24) - April 24th-26th 1848

Location 10 - Netsilik Massacre (69.62, -98.05) - April 25th 1848

Location 11- Hodgson is found - Mutineers: (69.56, -98.06) - April 27th 1848

Location 12 - Hodgson is found – Crozier (69.54, -98.14) - April 27th 1848

Location 13 - Fitzjames Collapses (68.94, -98.79) - June 10th 1848

Location 14 - Gibson's death (68.860, -98.73) - June 27th 1848

Location 15 - Fitzjames' Death (68.78, -98.21) - July 28th 1848

Location 16 - The NorWest Passage (68.7, -98.06) - July 28th 1848

Location 17 - Hospital Camp (68.68, -97.74) - August 3rd

Location 18 – Bridgens' death (68.70, -97.95) - August 10th

Loocation 19 - It's Rat Meal Time (68.73, -97.99) - August 3rd

Location 20 - Crozier Ambushed (68.67, -97.84) - Augsut 10th

Known and historical locations are in blue

Proposed locations by Franklin Researchers in orange

Proposed locations by yours truly in pink

Historical locations but for which the show took liberties... in red

Analysis below the line

1927 Admiralty Map

Use this link ^ to see the Famous 1927 Admiralty Map

Matching the Show

Episode 6- A Mercy

This is it, folks! The LAST of the bottle episodes. Next one is going to make me go absolutely insane...

Location 6- The Ships in January 1848 (70.055, -98.4)

Date: January 10th 1848

Nighttime - 13h 01 min

Daylight - None

Twilight - 9h 59 min

Sunset: N/A- Sunrise: N/A

So! This episode is the beginning of trying to understand when and what the fuck is going on. :')

Timestamp declares it is January 1848

Following timestamp announces this is 2 weeks after Episode 5, which we put between December 14 and December 20 in Part 1 (will need to edit.. :') ). First proposed date: Between December 28 and January 3

Fitzjames tells us it's 1 week from Sunrise (17th Jan for that latitude) which brings our Second proposed date: January 10

Lady Jane's Christmas Pudding (Hear, Hear) was offered to the men the week before. So, either it was not served on December 25th or the Third proposed date is: January 1st.

Considering that 1. and 3. are undeniable, I must conclude that my assessment of the timeline for episode 5 in Part 1 was Incorrect It would, therefore, put the death of Blanky's leg closer to December 27th

I must also conclude that January 10th is our date for the beginning of the episode and that the pudding was served on Jan 6th for Epiphany rather than Christmas. (This seemed so important to me for some reason...)

Now! For Location!

In part 1, I used the proposed location from the 1927 admiralty map for the position of the ships in Sept 1846 and their position in May/Jun 1847 to calculate the travel speed of the ships drifting with the Pack. Which was about... 0.04 miles per day.

Considering that there is 232 days between May 24 1847 and Jan 10 1848, the ships would have drifted approx 9.3 miles SW from their summer position (Location 3 - 70.15, -98.30). and, now, I wanted to make an additional extrapolation from the known position in April 22nd but... well, you'll see that was more difficult than expected when we move on to episode 7 so... instead, we'll use that 9.3 Miles SW from May 24 1847, so, about near (70.055, -98.4).

To be noted that I tried to pinpoint Location 6 for my own litle fun because it is not that relevant. They're in the pack, that's it. Their position in April is much more interesting. Also to note, you'll see when I get to Location 7 that my proposition puts Location 6 closer to Location 3, which is counterintuitive considering that it would mean that the pack drifted much faster between Jan and April (3 months) than between June and Jan (6 months). I propose to revise Location 6 for a future edit of this fun rabbit hole. The 0.04miles a day for the pack drift may have been accelerated during the summer months (June to September), even without a full thaw. For future consideration...

Thankfully, we remain in the vicinity of Location 6 for the next event so we don't have to go through all of THAT again... :')

Date: January 16th to January 17th 1848

Nighttime - 12h 34 min

Daylight - 34 min

Twilight - 9h 52 min

Sunset: 12:01 pm- Sunrise: 11:27 am

Jacko dies of lead poisoning

Carnivale goes up in flame and we're all sad.

For the Death Count, now...

Lt. Irving gives us a count of 116 men onboard the ships

This sounds inexact... At the end of December, by my count, we had 121 men still "alive" on the expedition (22 Officers and 99 men). 8 of those are on a vacation in the Fairholme party (Not counted as dead yet). This would mean we have 113 men on Terror and Erebus.

DEATH COUNT: 7 (Total: 13)

19 Officers and 95 Men remaining

To be Noted: The 3 dead officers I counted are the doctors and since no other officers names are mentioned, I assumed that was it... We will adjust when we get to VPN.

Episode 6- Horrible from Supper

There we go, folks! This is where I began to go absolutely INSANE trying to figure out all of this... Thank God this one is easy for the dates... and wow, I'm sure there is actually a paper for all that stuff somewhere out there but... I was either too lazy to find it and this is what I will die doing instead OR it's VERY obscure and I might as well do it myself...

ONWARD TO

Location 7- The Ships in April 1848 (69.88, -98.57)

Date: April 22nd 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 17h 25 min

Twilight - 6h 35 min

Sunrise: 3:52 am Sunset: 9:16 pm

Departure from Ships

And now I'm going to go absolutely rabid about the location...

I have a problem and it might have to do with my lack of understanding of how coordinates work, which renders this whole post frustrating... The thing is... the thing is. The position given by Fitzjames on his amendment of the VPN is... I don't understand it... he says they landed at 69°37'42.0"N 98°41'00.0"W (69.63, -98.68) but then proceed in saying that they left the ships 5 Leagues NNW of the Cairn (Location 4 - 69.66, -98.27).

(See the summary map for episode 6)

Oh, Jimmy FitzJimmy... That... that's not a NNW-SSE line... :') It's also not 15 miles... Did they have different Latitudes in 1845? I would need to research...

So, anyway, I will, instead try to figure out what would be the location based on the 5 league (I expect this was an approximated distance) and here is my proposition for a rough Location 7 (69.88, -98.57 or 69°52'N, 98°34'W)

For comparison purposes, the position from the VPN will be identified in yellow in the summary map.

Next Location: That would Location 8! Poor Lt Fairholmes party.

Location 8 - Fairholmes' Last Resting Place (69.72, -98.35)

Date: April 23th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 17h 30 min

Twilight - 6h 30 min

Sunrise: 3:48 am Sunset: 9:18 pm

For the date: They have not yet reached Terror Camp and it looked to be either very early in the morning or late at night. I will suppose late at night, which would make the landing at Terror Camp to be made the next day. If Fitzjames and Crozier went to deposit the VPN the same day they arrived at TC, then this would make it April 24th.

For the Location: They mention that Fairholmes made 18 miles from the position the ships were at in June 1847 (Location 3 - 70.15, -98.30) and they had to find themselves in the path of Crozier and Co, close to the coast. Now, 18 miles... they certainly did not make the calculation on top of their head. From Part 1, we know that Gore had to travel 33.5 miles to get from the Ships in Location 3 to the Cairn in Location 4. 18 miles would have been a little bit over half-way there. In next image, I traced the path from Location 3 to Location 4 and Location 7 to Location 4 and you'll see why this is confusing:

Half-way from Location 3 to Location 4 would have been nowhere near to where Crozier and Co could have found Fairholmes. Maybe it wasn't as much as a straight line as I made it to be here or maybe Mr. Fitzjames is still confused about distances and Lat. Long position... Maybe I've been wrong this WHOLE TIME and they're counting in Nautical Miles and I'm about to throw my whole being out of the window.

Anyway, in order to preserve my Sanity, I will mark Location 8 at a very subjective position based on the flow of the episode rather than the information they gave... Now you understand why I became feral about this. Location 8 (69.72, -98.35) and that would be 30 miles from where the Ships were in June 1847...

Location 9 - Terror Camp (69.644, -98.24)

Date: April 24th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 17h 40 min

Twilight - 6h 20 min

Sunrise: 3:42 am Sunset: 9:23 pm

Date is given by the VPN - They arrive the day before going to Victory Point. Morfin dies.

For the Location, I would like to go back to our dear friend the 1927 Admiralty Map which identify where McClintock found the grave of Lt. J. Irving, a Camp and Many Relics. It is just slightly South East of Victory Point. Now, in the show, when Crozier and Fitzjames held hand, the first thing they saw was the Camp, vs when Gore climbed the ridge, he saw the Cairn.

Either the show moved the camp a little bit closer to the shore or they "landed" at a southerner position than Gore did. Either way, I feel that for a couple miles between the two points, we can go with the historical marker. Also, for my sanity. I will therefore arbitrarily put Location 9 at 69.644, -98.24, about 2 miles from the Cairn and I feel that this is a good location for it.

Last Location for Horrible from Supper (dear Lord)

Location 10 - Netsilik Massacre (69.62, -98.05)

Date: April 25th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 17h 50 min

Twilight - 6h 10 min

Sunrise: 3:37 am Sunset: 9:28 pm

Date: Same as the VPN (from Episode 8)

Location: Irving was assigned to go East by Lt. Little. Therefore, we'll sorta assume that it was a due East.

Now, when they split from Hodgson, Irving mentions that they are an hour before they are due before they are to return to Terror. Assuming that they would be on a hunting trip of 6 hours (this seems long but probably necessary considering they are starting to grow desperate for fresh supplies), this would make their split at the 2h mark and Irving went South. Assuming they may have walked another 15 minutes (they were due to turn back to where they split in 30 min), then we're up to 2h 15min away from camp.

They did not seem to be walking in any kind of fast pace, that they might have stopped on the way and that they are on an uneven ground and tired from hauling their sledge to TC, I will assume a steady pace of 2.5 miles per hour. This would put them a generous 5.6 miles away from TC. (To be checked with Hickey story next episode) and therefore, Location 9 is (69.62, -98.05)

And with this, we are DONE for episode 7!

DISTANCES AND TRAVEL:

Loc 7 to Loc 8

Travel time - 2 complete days (arrival eod)

Travel Distance: 10.6 NM / 12 miles / 20 km

Average Travel Speed - 6 miles a day

Travel Condition - Hauling Sledges and following a track - Pack is now littered with Seracs. This must have been gruesome - Comparable speed to Gore's Party.

Loc 8 to Loc 9

Travel time - 1 day

Travel Distance: 5.1 NM / 6 miles / 9.5 km

Average Travel Speed - 6 miles a day

Travel Condition - Hauling Sledges and following a track - High Ridge - Half distance on shale

Loc 9 to Loc 10

Travel Time - 2hours 15min

Travel Distance: 5.6 miles

Average Travel Speed - 2.5mph

Travel Condition: On foot, no heavy load, hunting - Not a straight line.

DEATH COUNT: 1 (Morfin) + 8 (Fairholmes) + 2 (Irving/Farr) (Total: 26)

14 Officers and 89 Men remaining

7 Men remaining on Ships

14 Officers and 82 men in Terror Camp

Episode 8 - Terror Camp Clear

Buckle up Buttercups, the horrors are coming...

So, first, let's do with the date. The next few movements are all the same date:

Date: April 25th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 17h 50 min

Twilight - 6h 10 min

Sunrise: 3:37 am Sunset: 9:28 pm

What I want to figure out is the hour by hour of that day ahah

Location 4 -The Cairn (69.66, -98.27)

Crozier and Fitzjames deposit the famous VPN.

Now, I could go on an on about how confusing the VPN was for me but I'll leave it at that... I would like to make the exercise of counting the dead men tho :)

Officers - 9

Franklin, Gore, Dr. Stanley, Dr. McDonald, Dr. Peddie, Fairholme, Hornby, 1 unnamed (Fairholme party or Carnivale)

Men - 15

Braine, Hartnell, Darlington, Morfin, Orren, Young, Torrington, Strong, Evans, Heather, Bryant, + 4 (Fairholme party or Carnivale)

So, as a note, that would not work because we have 7 deaths from the Carnival (4 named) and 8 from Fairholme (1 named) and I have only 5 unnamed left to make the VPN 24. *sigh*

MOVING ON

Location 9 - Terror Camp (69.644, -98.24)

And then back to

Location 10 - Netsilik Massacre (69.62, -98.05)

And THEN Back to

Location 9 - Terror Camp (69.644, -98.24)

So let's see how much walking Crozier has made today from the beginning of the episodes: 11 miles!

1.3 miles from Cairn to TC

4.9 miles from TC to Location 10 (Bird's reach)

Now we know that the average man walks 3mph

Crozier would have spent maybe 45 minutes to walk back from the cairn with Fitzjames (making brotherhood and stuff)

And then he would have to pace himself for Blanky to follow to Location 10, so, perhaps 2mph. - 2h 30 min to make it to Location 10.

In total, Crozier would have walked at least 6h that day and 12.5 miles

If the hunting parties were sent out from 6 am, that would mean that Irving and Farr would have been murdered around 8h30. He needed time to do his business, maybe 10 minutes (what are the Netsilik doing in the meantime?) By the time that Hickey runs back and forth to get Hodgson, who had gone in another direction, we can assume another 30 min, it is now 9:10 am when the Netsilik are massacred. To go back to camp, I assume they would have walked at fast pace, dragging Irving and Farr on their sledge, they could have made it back in 1h 30min. It is now 10h40.

It looks like Fitzjames and Crozier went back as Hodgson was entering the camp again, or just about. so they would have left the Cairn at 10 am and they would have left the Camp for the Cairn maybe around 8 am.

SO!

Let's say there's a bit of shouting, going around, getting Irving on Goodsir's table... they leave to go BACK to Location 10 around 11 am and they reach it around 2:30 pm, make their 10 min investigation and then make their way back starting at 2:40 pm.

They are back just in time for supper around 5:20 pm.

Yep, they could have done all of that in one day. Which is EXACTLY what I wanted to check. What a trek...

Anyway, I think Hickey was scheduled to be hanged around 8pm. Good time to die.

DEATH COUNT: 32 + Pocock + 9 (unknown) (Total: 68)

61 Total remaining

7 Men remaining on Ships

40 with Crozier

11 Mutineers and 3 Reluctant (Hodgson, Goodsir, Diggle) (counted on the screen... and Golding who is going back and forth)

And now, before we go on to Episode 9, let's do an Interlude for how we're going to proceed moving forward:

How We Move Forward

Ok, here is what this section about:

So far, I've been using clues from the show and known historical facts to know where the Cold Boys were, how they got there and who was still around.

Now we enter absolute speculation.

on the subject of LOCATION

Yes, we have a fine map (thank you 1927 Admiralty Map) that let us know where all of the Franklin Artefacts had been found over the course of 75 years but y'all will soon understand when I say that this is where the show accuracy ends.

For one, the most recognizable spot for me is McClintock's Boat Place. And Welp! Maybe one could argue that it is where Hickey attempted his little fake ritual in Episode 10. To which I will answer: ah... probably not? But that is the ONLY scene that could make sense for McC's BP...

Then we have the two famous graves: Le VesconteOrHarry Goodsir and the Peglar Skeleton/Bridgens and we have to ask ourselves, how accurate did the showrunner /author wanted to be about the specific placement of these deaths... After all, a wasteland of shale is a wasteland of shale.

In anyway, I will go over each of the Locations from the 1927 map to try and match a potential scene.

On the subject of TIME:

Now, we no longer have the luxury of dates so we will need to rely on everything else to let us know of the passage of time.

Sunrise/Sunsets - Which will help us identify the overall months

Grooming - These men get beardy.

Health - Declination and recoveries

Travel speed - If locations are known, we can match the date if we suppose a travel speed.

On the subject of SURVIVORS:

I will not keep up with the count. We know they all died and the show did not actually keep track of them. There seem to be as many that left Terror Camp as there are when Peglar collapses. I was mostly interested in doing for episode 8 because I wanted to keep tab on how many left with Hickey, etc but it was just hell to manage for this part.

On the subject of GROUPS:

Now we have 2 groups, the Mutineers and the Frankliners (Crozier and Co). I assumed that Hickey was mostly following the Frankliners at a distance of 4-6 miles behind.

Now, we enter Hell.

Episode 9- The C, The C, The Open C

The episode opens on a known Location and date (thank God), Location

Location 9 - Terror Camp (69.644, -98.24)

Date: April 26th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 18h 01 min

Twilight - 5h 59 min

Sunrise: 3:32 am Sunset: 9:33 pm

They burn their dead.

I assumed this would be the next day because they're still gathering their deads. - Kinda brutal to ask them to walk the day after the attack.

40 Frankliners

14 Mutineers

Location 11/12 - Hodgson is Found

Mutineers Location (11): (69.56, -98.06)

Frankliners Location (12): (69.54, -98.14)

Date: April 27th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 18h 01 min

Twilight - 5h 59 min

Sunrise: 3:32 am Sunset: 9:33 pm

This one is the first difficulty because we need to match a time, an intention and a speed.

First, I would like to propose that this is either the 26th again or the 27th and I will argue for the 27th.

We find Hodgson as he is so famished that he eats his own boot. We can suspect that he would, indeed, be very hungry after having ran through the night from the Tuunbaq. But he would have had supper the night before AND having been on three quarter rations since January. I, of course, have never been hungry enough to resort to eating my shoes but I imagine that if I was in Hodgson situation, I would keep the edible boots for as long as I can. Would he be hungry enough to start eating leather on the morrow of the attack, or more likely 2 days later?

Also, the frost bite on his cheeks suggest he's been outside for at least night.

Hickey and Co have been pulling their sledge, probably for the first couple of hours after Tuunbaq's attack. The difficulty here is to determine how long they would have gone without stopping and how far they would have walked. We've established previously that a sledge party would make, at good pace, 5 miles per day, assuming 4-6 hours of pulling with relays of the men, therefore, we could convene that 1.3 mph could be an acceptable speed for them who are fleeing from Tuunbaq with at least 1 reluctant puller (Goodsir) and 1 confused (Diggle)

We've also established that men on foot without sledges can go from twice to three times that speed. And I suspect that when Fitzjames declared 23 unknown, they actually scouted around the camp to find those men. If scouts were sent in the morning while they were gathering the dead, then they could have made a 2-3 miles search radius. If I was Hickey, I would have pushed for at least 3 hours that night to avoid detection (if we say that Hickey was scheduled to be hanged around 8pm, then they stopped at 11pm). So! in the night of the 25th, they are, at least 3 miles out of the camp.

Now that they are out of camp, they need to do 2 things: 1) Rest. They would not have been able to pick up the pace right back first thing in the morning. 2) Put more distance between themselves and the Frankliners. I suspect that they would have made only 4hours of pulling on the 26th, bringing us just about a whooping 7.8 miles out of Terror Camp.

Finally, it is impossible to detect what time of the day it is when they find Hodgson but looking at the tired look of the crew, maybe an hour in? That would be another 1 miles. So let's average that they found Hodgson after running 9 miles out of Terror Camp

Now that we have a radius, let's talk about direction...

I think it is fair to say that Hickey would have followed the same route as Crozier, seeing that he specifically asked Gibson to take a map. But Crozier was going to follow the coast in case they saw leads. Would Hickey do the same?

3 more things to consider:

1. They left in the fog, without much visual clues to orient themselves. 2. They took the map but Hickey was hoping to get Hodgson on board for his navigational skills (or maybe that was BS, who knows).

3. Mid Episode 9, Tozer reports that the Frankliners are 6 miles AHEAD of them, even though Hickey left first. We'll revisit that later...

Now, on the subject of the third point, it is very possible that Hickey would have rested more often... I just think it's funnier to suggest that he spent the night going in the wrong direction and then just circled back to follow the Frankliners... They realised it when they sent Golding back to Crozier for spying.

So here's the 25th to 27th route I propose for Mr. Hickey:

Mr. Hodgson would have had wandered approx 5 miles SE of Terror Camp. (69.56, -98.06)

As for Crozier, well, I suggest they took this route starting on the 26th, making 5 miles per day and this is where they would be when Hodgson was found (69.54, -98.14), putting them 3 miles away from each group:

Now!

The next scene is where it starts getting hazy and we need to get imaginative in how we account for time past.

In the next scene, we se ethe frankliners are struggling to pull their sledges. Blanky is limping badly and, then, Mr. Fitzjames collapses, complaining about the Heat.

Location 13 - Fitzjames Collapses (68.94, -98.79)

Date: June 10th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 24h

Twilight - None

Sunrise: N/A Sunset: N/A

About the DATE:

Time indicator to consider:

The health of the crewman JFJ is sharing his boat with:

When we left Terror Camp, the sick tent was empty, except for Pocock. While the men where most likely not at the top of the health when they departed, no one was on the verge of dying. Looking at the crewman, he is not only sick, he is emaciated. A quick google search tells us that sickness can make one lose up to 5 pounds a week. Perhaps in, their condition, one could thinkthat the rate could be a bit higher, say... 6 lb? From the crew for which we have the information, we deduce that they were, on average, 5' 6'' so we can use that as a reference to suppose the weight of that sailor. If we assume a BMI borderline to underweight when leaving Terror Camp, we would have weight, maybe... 120 pounds?

Now, severely underweight would put him at 95 pounds, which would be a drop of 20 pounds. Assuming 6 lb, that would be a guesstimate of 3 weeks and a half for him to deteriorate... let's give them a chance and say a month and a half since Terror Camp.

I think that's reasonable... JFJ didn't look great after the Tuunbaq attack but that shirtless scene proved that he was still quite fit.

About the Travel Speed:

See after Location 19

About the Location:

See after Location 19

Location 14 - Gibson's death (68.860, -98.73)

Date: June 27th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 24h

Twilight - None

Sunrise: N/A Sunset: N/A

About the DATE:

Time indicator: Facial hair. Courtesy of not having much shaving available, the Mutineers are looking quite rugged. Let's discuss the hairiest: Mr. Goodsir and Lt. Hodgson.

Hodgson starts his time with the Mutineers with a 2 day shadows between his muttonchops. Same for Mr. Goodsir.

See Below the Before/After

And now, huh... wow... that changes a man... I'd say this is looks to be about.. errr... medium beard? According to menhairstylestoday.com, this would take 1 to 2 months to grow at a rate of half an inch a month. Yeah, I can believe these are 2 month old beards. So, there!

Location? Speed travel? Well, I'll stop you right there.. I don't know yet.

Location 15 - Fitzjames' Death (68.78, -98.21)

Date: July 28th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 20h 50 min

Twilight - 3h 10 min

Sunrise: 2:11 am Sunset: 11:01 am

Time Indicator: More Hair. For this one, I will trust the hair because I somehow think the Frankliners would have kept themselves more groomed than the Mutineers.

Taking the angle into account, this is, what... 1.5inch? 2 inch?

Hair can grow at about 0.5 in a month. So, 3 months since Terror Camp.

Time Indicator: Crews' health: It is very evident that they're all getting thinner, sicker but Fitzjames and (most surprisingly) his boat mate are still alive! Considering the risk of infection and the progression of scurvy... it can't have been more than a couple of weeks since Fitzjame's collapse but, not, like, the next day? Can a doctor please stand up for this?

Time Indicator: The amount of food left.

No. I will NOT go there. There's enough math being done wtf...

Location 16 - The NorWest Passage (68.7, -98.06)

Date: July 28th 1848

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 20h 46 min

Twilight - 3h 14 min

Sunrise: 2:13 am Sunset: 10:58 am

Finally, finally! We have it! A Date, AND a location! :D Thank you Mr. Blanky!

So, this is the day after JFJ's death, June 28th.

On Blanky's map, we can read known locations: McGillivray Bay, Pt. W. Smith... Congratulations Mr. Blanky :') You are a true hero.

Supposing he can see McGillivray Bay from where he sits, he would find the Passage at Location 16 (68.7, -98.06)

And wow... does that make me feel like finding my own NW Passage, being able to reconnect all those lost locations from before :')

Back to location 15! Blanky would probably not have walked all that much, given he was in pain and only wanted to draw Tuunbaq to him and toward the Ice. I'd be generous and give him a good 5 miles before he had to sat down. From what Lt. Little reported before they had to stop for Fitzjames, the ice was to the west so we'll assume Mr Blanky walked south west while the party proceeded south east. This would put Location 15 at (68.78, -98.21)

Location 17 - Hospital Camp (68.68, -97.74)

Date: August 3rd

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 19h 33 min

Twilight - 4h 27 min

Sunrise: 2:48 am Sunset: 10:21 pm

Peglar collapses

See Location 17 reasoning for date of the camp

As for Position, well, we're just going to be a little off out of

Location 17 - Bridgens (68.70, -97.95)

Date: August 10th

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 18h21

Twilight - 5h 39 min

Sunrise: 3:23 am Sunset: 9:45 pm

Basically, we all agree that Bridgens is the Peglar Skeleton. Thank god I know where that is! Now, it is interesting that there was a paper published in 2022 about the real location of the Peglar Skeleton (assuming McClintock took his lat and long wrong) but since we are dealing with a 2018 show, we'll go with McClintock's account.(68.70, -97.95)

Sweet, now, about the TIMING

Considering where Location 15 put us, we were quite near the point of collapse for Peglar. I think we could give them a two more days of pulling before it's poor Henry Peglar's turn. No other reason than having previously established that there is a MUCH slower pace now (News is courtesy of Lt. Little) and they left Fitzjames' grave roughly 10 miles from Bridgens' last sighting . I propose the timeline to be thus: Peglar collapse on August 3rd and dies on August 10th. He didn't look like he had wasted away very long. Bridgens immediately leave the party, travel a couple of miles and lay down to die. Has he is seen going in the direction Golding came from (the Mutineer's camp, North), I assume that the Hospital camp is now further south than where the Peglar Skeleton was found.

Loocation 18 - It's Rat Meal Time (68.73, -97.99)

Date: August 3rd

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 19h 33 min

Twilight - 4h 27 min

Sunrise: 2:48 am Sunset: 10:21 pm

About the TIMING:

I suspect Hickey made Goodsir cut Billy the same day they pitched their tent, just to assure his dominance while so close to the Frankliners (6 miles out).

Cripse.... that would have been a 1 month old dead body to eat...

This gives us a location: (68.73, -97.99)

Now, the problem I am having is this... Night falls when Hodgson come to tell his little church story... There will be no dark sky until Mid to late August... so I am mostly going to believe that was only twilight.

Location 19 - Crozier Ambushed (68.67, -97.84)

Date: August 10th

Nighttime - None

Daylight - 18h21

Twilight - 5h 39 min

Sunrise: 3:23 am Sunset: 9:45 pm

About the TIMING:

Bridgens lays down to die the day Crozier is taken. I don't think he moved from there.

About the Location: Close to Hospital camp, by the shore.

NOW HERE'S A THING TO MAKE YOU CONFUSED:

Sophia Cracroft found snow in London in August 1848?

Blanky was still waiting for the Tuunbaq after they pitched tents for Hospital camp?

I think these two scenes are just out of order and for dramatic effect: Basically pitching the fate of Crozier failing to save anyone.

SO! Now that we know where 99 days of walking (April 27th (Location 12) to August 3rd (Location 16 - Hospital camp)), we can average the pace of the walk.

First, let's establish some distances:

About 100 miles, then! I would like to propose the following pace, to take account for the time passed and how tired the men would become. So this would be a decreasing pace and accounting for camping time due to weather (there should still be monstrous hail and blizzard until June), etc.

15 miles first miles at 3mph = 5 days

2 day of rest - 3 days of bad weather

20 miles at 2mph = 10 days

2 day of rest + 2 days of bad weather

25 miles at 1.5 mph = 20 days

3 days of rest + 3 days of bad weather

40 miles at 1mph = 40 days

3 days of bad weather + 6 days of rest

This would put Location 13 - Fitzjames Collapses 60 miles out of Location 12 (45 days travel time) around (68.94, -98.79), right next to Terror Bay :')

I'm also very happy that this would actually match the position of a camp and 2 graves from Halls and Schwatka's expedition! Sometimes I feel like I'm a genius but right now, I swear I'm just holding on for dear life...

and, if we assume that Hickey kept the pace with the Frankliners, this would put

Location 14 - Gibson's death 70 miles out of Location 11 (60 days travel time) around (68.860, -98.73)

Here's the summary Map for Ep 9:

Conclusion: Episode 9 was a mess and this is 12 hours of work...

Part 3 will be for Episode 10.

#the terror #the terror AMC #Reference #Cold Boys adjacent #Analysis #LONG POST #What am I doing #Hope it may help someone else...#how else should I tag this?#Not gonna lie. I mostly lost it when I was halfway through this post and had placed Fitzjames death in mid july only to realise that...#omg the tent is dark... the tent is dark because the sun has set... the sun doesn't set until AUGUST #and so I had to review my whole thing...#It's a lot of #rambling

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SPOILERS FOR BAD BATCH EPS 6/7

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

I cannot decide if I want CX-2 to be Tech or not.

On one hand, I'm really kind of over Star Wars "killing" characters and then going "jk, they fine."

On the other hand, it has been well-established at this point that fall damage basically doesn't exist in the Star Wars universe (unless your name is Steela Guerrera, yes i'm still mad).

On the other other hand, one of my biggest philosophical stances on fiction and storytelling is that you don't need to kill characters to tell impactful stories or create stakes and tensions. And CX-2 being Tech would absolutely be high stakes and create tension. Like, it's not a cop-out from a story perspective, in fact it might be worse, to make the Batch go from mourning Tech to fighting him.

The reason I'm not more on-board is just SW's long track record of unkilling characters who should have died. But again, I feel like as long as that's a late-season reveal, the Batch will have lived with the consequences of Tech's "death" for long enough that bringing him back wouldn't be undoing that, especially bringing him back as an enemy.

On the other other other hand, at that point he's kind of just the Winter Soldier, right? Like it's just Bucky Barnes lmao

#tbb spoilers #tbb season 3 #tbb cx2 #tbb tech #the bad batch

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YukiPri - Star Wars 2021~, General Art Masterpost - Part I

This is my general standalone Star Wars fanart compilation for content created 2021~onwards, Part 1!

I created a separate post for this content due to hitting the maximum link limit on my Main Star Wars Masterpost.

To see my various AU content (including links to my Star Wars comics and fics!), as well as other crucial general links, please check out the link!

This Masterpost is marked is marked Part 1, because as of making this Masterpost, I am already close to the maximum link limit again. When I reach it, this section will be replaced with a link to Part 2.

Click here for the latest version of this post!

Thank you!

MASTERPOST KEY:

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[TXT] - Text headcanons

All shippy/pseudo-shippy things will be marked with a ＊

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Links to Art:

[ILL] Commander Cody

[ILL] May 4th 2021 with Grogu + Din + Boba + Jango + Cody + Rex

[ILL] Cody & his General doing reports, ＊Cody x Obi-Wan

[ILL] The 212th Attack Battalion

[ILL/COM] Jango Fett is alive and is a pain in the ass ＊Cody x Obi x Jango

[ILL] Echo’s cyborg spine thing

[ILL] Rex

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[ILL] Obi-Wan & Tea

[ILL/COM] The Anakin & Padmé Meme in Four Parts

[ILL] Cody, Wooley, & Longshot in training gear

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[ILL] The 212th and their General ＊212th x Obi-Wan

[ILL] Captain Gregor

[ILL] Jangobi vs Codywan＊

[ILL] Cody - Inside helmet

[ILL] Casual Autumn Vibes with the 212th (Wooley & Waxer)

[ILL] Undercover Cody & Obi-Wan (＊Long Hair!Cody x Beardless!Obi-Wan)

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[ILL] Alpha-77 | Fordo

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[ILL] Happy Boba Day!

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[ILL] Tusken Warrior, verstion 2 (Final)

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[ILL] TBOBF Ep 5 Sketch

[COM] TBOBF Ep 5 mini comic

[ILL] TBOBF Boba Sketch

[ILL] Young adult Boba

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gayleviticus · 4 months

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I saw a post the other day saying jj abrams wanted originally for kylo not to get redeemed and to be a reverse Vader where he's most vacillating and unsure in ep 7 and then totally committed to evil in ep 9. and while I see the appeal of the thematic contrast here, I think that would be really depressing for the culmination of a saga entirely based around redemption to conclude with 'well this time it didn't work rip the skywalkers'.

on the other hand a straightforward kylo redemption runs the risk of being quite boring. more thematically appropriate imo but also like why did we need a sequel trilogy in the first place if it's just a rehash. what would really have been interesting and refreshed the formula without actively rejecting the core themebof the original films would be a trilogy where the villain atones as the hero falls and by the end they've switched places. obv that's smth that would need to be baked in from the start and kinda a non starter w the films as they exist, but if I was trying to find a way to define a third trilogy of sw against the rest I'd go for that

#star wars

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Jfc I'm 1/3 through ep 6 and Seunwoo is telling Minsung he's not interested in Seungho and then in the same breath calls Jungho a love rival.... like dude... you don't know what you want!

I think Seunwoo lowkey wants Jungho and is using Seungho to get back at him for not choosing him and being so set on Sungho.

Like, he's manipulating both Jungsung by going out with Sungho- knowing full well JS's into SH; and Sungho, when he doesn't even like him like that and considers him a dongsaeng yet knows he's very much interested in him romantically and is choosing him over JS...

... like, dude, get out of the way and stop leading Seungho on and let Junsung do his thing if you're being insecure about yourself and doubting your feelings for Seungho whilst Junsung has been determined since the beginning!

... I really do think his indecision is messing him up because he used to have the most suitors, and since he's been fluttering around everyone, he's lost the interest of most of them except Yeonhee...

yeah, I'm getting annoyed by Seunwoo (ﾟーﾟ)

Man, I just wished SH could have heard that conversation with him and Minsung about him not being likely to choose him outside of His Man... Maybe that would've gotten him over SW.

hiiii anon!!! honestly after seeing his behaviour in ep 6 and 7 i just. im done with seunwoo. those kinda people are Draining and so emotionally taxing to be around and that's exactly what he has become. i cant stand him anymore with all the comments he came out with about the different house members and how flippant and regardless he is.

all i could see was just. how HAPPY and LIGHT and RELAXED sungho felt being with junsung in ep 7. he could still talk about his feelings with junsung but in such an open and comfortable way with no pressure or tension or conflict whatsoever. it just felt so easy. compare that to how TENSE sungho has been with seunwoo in ep 6 and 7 whenever they've talked ..... it says A Lot.

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fantastic-nonsense · 2 years

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Seeing everyone hyped about star wars and honestly it's a franchise I've been wanting to get into, is there a particular order in how I should watch the film's (and or series)?

Welcome to the fandom! I'd be thrilled to have you join us here!

Quick background primer before I answer the question. The Star Wars fandom loves using abbreviations and shortened names wherever possible to refer to the various films/series/other media, and it can get pretty confusing if you're unfamiliar with the lingo. You'll see the following used pretty regularly:

The Skywalker Saga: the three main trilogies (PT/OT/ST), which all focus on the Skywalker family. This is a new term that's often used by Disney; fan usage is so-so.

The Lucas Saga: the six movies (Episodes 1-6) that George Lucas, (SW's creator) made, wrote, and/or directed himself.

PT/OT/ST: refers to the three main "trilogies" of movies: The Prequel Trilogy (Episodes 1-3), the Original Trilogy (Episodes 4-6) and the Sequel Trilogy (Episodes 7-9).

Individual Movie Abbreviations: The Phantom Menace (TPM), Attack of the Clones (AOTC), Revenge of the Sith (ROTS), A New Hope (ANH), The Empire Strikes Back (ESB), Return of the Jedi (ROTJ), The Force Awakens (TFA), The Last Jedi (TLJ), and The Rise of Skywalker (TROS). Occasionally Rogue One gets shortened to RO. Solo does not get shortened.

The movies are called "episodes" because Lucas considered them to be individual entries in a larger story. They're numbered based on the chronological order in which their events occur. So Episode 1 (The Phantom Menace) was the 4th movie to be released but tells the earliest events that occur chronologically (movie-wise).

Now for the movies, I have two different but equally clear answers to this question, and which one you choose depends on your personal preference:

Release Order: Release order means watching the "Original Trilogy" movies (A New Hope->Empire Strikes Back->Return of the Jedi) that came out in the 70s/80s first. Then watch the prequel trilogy (The Phantom Menace->Attack of the Clones->Revenge of the Sith), which came out in the early 2000s, and finally the sequel trilogy (The Force Awakens->The Last Jedi->Rise of Skywalker). You can watch the two anthology films (Solo and Rogue One) in whichever order you prefer at any point after finishing the OT and PT.

Chronological Order: Watching in chronological order means you watch the movies in the order in which the movie's events occur within the timeline. This would mean watching Episodes 1-3, then watching Solo and Rogue One (in that order), and then watching Episodes 4-9 in the order they're numbered.

Note: There's a nearly 20 year time gap between the end of Revenge of the Sith and the beginning of A New Hope. Solo takes place ~10 years after ROTS/9 years before ANH. Rogue One takes place right before ANH starts and effectively serves as a background prequel. I personally recommend waiting until you've seen the entirety of the Lucas saga (Eps 1-6) before watching either one, because they were created to be supplementary material to those movies, but if you're doing a pure chronological watch, they both come before ANH.

tl;dr "either watch 1) Episodes 4-6->1-3->7-9, or 2) Episodes 1-9. The two anthology films (Rogue One and Solo) can be watched in any order at any point after you watch Episodes 1-6."

Both orders have their pros and cons. If you'd prefer to start with a war-based drama that has a happy ending and better collective script, I'd start with the original trilogy (A New Hope). If you'd like a romance-based Greek tragedy that has better worldbuilding and a lot of fun action sequences, I'd start with the prequel trilogy (The Phantom Menace).

Everything else is fun and adds to your experience, but is extraneous. The movies generally tell a complete story. If you want to be a movies-only fan, that's perfectly acceptable. However, there's a wide variety of other Star Wars-based media for you to consume and enjoy if you find yourself interested in the wider Star Wars universe. If you're interested in those, I'm going to put the rest of this answer behind a 'read more' since it's getting a bit long.

In the current canon, the principal form of "extra media" is the television shows. I'm going to list them in timeline/chronological order for clarity:

The Clone Wars (TCW): the 7 season animated television series that takes place in between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. TCW is an anthology-based show principally focusing on Anakin and Obi-Wan (and Anakin's apprentice Ahsoka Tano) as they fight in the Clone Wars. Show has ended.

The Bad Batch: starts basically immediately after ROTS concludes, focuses on a group of clones after the rise of the Empire. You will not understand this series if you haven't watched TCW. It's basically one of the few Star Wars shows that can't stand alone, since it's effectively a direct sequel to a few episodes of TCW. Currently airing.

Obi-Wan Kenobi (Kenobi): Kenobi is focused on Obi-Wan, one of the main characters of the Lucas saga (Eps. 1-6), and explores his attempts to protect the Skywalker children while hiding from the Empire. It takes place in the 19 year gap in between ROTS and ANH and starts approximately 10 years after ROTS concludes. Show has ended.

Andor: a show focused on Cassian Andor, one of the protagonists of Rogue One, and the other founders of the Rebellion as they fight the Empire. Takes place about 5 years before ANH. Currently airing.

Star Wars Rebels (Rebels): a 4 season animated television series that focuses on a "found family" of rebels fighting against the Empire. Starts about 4 years pre-A New Hope and runs to about 6 months before it starts. Show has ended.

The Mandalorian: Currently 2 seasons with a third on the way, Mando is a live-action show that takes place five years after the events of ROTJ and stars The Mandalorian, a lone bounty hunter who goes on the run to protect "The Child." Currently airing.

The Book of Boba Fett (TBOBF): a direct spin-off of The Mandalorian, this show follows bounty hunter Boba Fett from The Mandalorian and other Star Wars media as he establishes himself as the new crime lord of Jabba the Hutt's former territory. Show has ended.

There's also a variety of video games that take place within the Star Wars universe. The most popular ones include Jedi: Fallen Order, which tracks a survivor of the Jedi Genocide in between ROTS and ANH, and the Knights of the Old Republic (KOTOR) RPG games, which take place approximately 10,000 years before the events of the movies and focus on the great Jedi-Sith Wars.

There used to be all of these very pretty and easily-to-follow visual timelines that helped orient fans as to when a piece of media chronologically took place within the timeline, but when Disney bought Star Wars and discontinued the Expanded Universe (EU) to create the new/current canon, that also made all of those timelines lowkey obsolete and Disney has chosen not to continue making them.

Anyway, if you're interested in reading any of the books/comics, that's honestly worth an entirely separate answer on its own so I'm not going to answer that here, but let me know if you get through the movies and are interested in getting into that corner of the SW universe! I hope this wasn't too overwhelming for you and is easy enough to follow; let me know if it's not. And like I said at the beginning of the post, welcome to the fandom!

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gerec · 1 year

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I only know about Stat Wars from cultural osmosis, do you think I would enjoy Andor?

You don't need to know anything about Star Wars to enjoy Andor; it is an incredible show that just happens to be set in the Star Wars universe. You only need to know that it's a story about people trying to survive under a fascist regime, and how ordinary people do extraordinary things to fight back. It's a masterclass in story telling, with amazing character work, pacing and world building better than most shows I've seen (and I mean ALL shows not just Star Wars ones). There is not one bad performance in the entire cast, and Diego Luna (and Stellan Skarsgard and Andy Serkis) in particular are phenomenal. What it does not have are cameos and easter eggs added just for the sake of having them (like everything MCU these days, and most SW too); everything and every character has a purpose that makes sense for this particular story they're trying to tell.

I really can't recommend it enough and I hope you give the show a try. Watch all three of the first episodes together if you can spare the time, as I think it gives you the best viewing experience to start, being able to feel the tension ratcheting from the beginning of an episode to the end, and from the first episode to the third. (Ep 1-3 is the first arc, 4-6 is the second with 7 being a standalone ep, then 8-10 and 11 + 12 being the 2 part finale).

Hope this helps! :D :D :D

#gerec rambles #andor #also #thank you for letting me gush about the show #my hubby and I are absolutely in love with it

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