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Things People Seem to Forget About Steve Rogers (aka the past is complex)

Things in the future didn't happen in a vacuum, and while Steve missed a lot of stuff while he was in the ice, he would have seen the roots of things like the Civil Rights, Women's Rights and even LGBTQ+ Rights movements in his time.

While I'm sure Steve encountered a lot of people expecting certain right-wing behaviours from him, due to his birth year and the things he missed in the ice, this doesn't mean he would act that way—even right out of the ice.

But first lets take a look at the things Steve missed and see what he did in fact know:

The atom bomb. Steve never saw the atomic fallout, but what did he see? Hydra bombs literally being flown to his home city. There is also a possibility that as a specialty team, he learned about the German Nuclear Program during the war. His unit was tied to the Strategic Science Reserve, so I wouldn't be surprised if between that, and Hydra's bomb initiatives, Steve was well aware of the potential of a bomb threat. I doubt Steve has clearance to know about the Manhattan project, and I think he would be horrified to learn about the impact of the atom bomb on Japan (especially since he essentially thwarted the same thing from happening to New York) but majorly powerful bombs would not surprise him.

• The Cold War. Steve may not have experience the Cold War, but he grew up surrounded by the outcome of the First World War after the Communist take over of Russia. The debates surrounding Communism, Socialism, and Capitalism aren't new. Steve would have grown up with them and would probably be familiar with American pro-capitalist, anti-communist rhetoric. But would he agree?

Here's some things we know about Steve: He's an artist, he grew up during the Depression which was heavily mitigated by socialist measures, he grew up poor, he grew up disabled. As an artist Steve would be well aware of the debates between the political movements, and with his background, and the success of Roosevelt's New Deal reforms, it would not surprise me if Steve leaned more towards the Socialist side of the scale.

All this to say: Steve would not be unfamiliar with the tension between Russia and the USA. Especially since even though they were allies during the war, there were already concerns that the USSR wasn't so much 'liberating' the countries they drove Germany out of, as putting them under new management.

Steve would be familiar with the tensions underlying the Cold War, and his background might lead him to have a critical view of some of the pro-Capitalist propaganda that came out during the Cold War. While I don't think Steve would approve of Russia's methods and the ultimate outcome of Communism there, I don't think he would approve of the Red Scare Witch Hunt that happened in the States either.

• Civil Rights Movement. While Steve missed the major changes that occurred during the 50s and 60s, he would not be unfamiliar with movements for equality. Steve would also not be unaware of the inequality that minorities faced in his country.

For example:

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) was established in 1909 and is still run today. The NAACP fought and fights against discrimination and advocates for equality.

In the 30s President Roosevelt responded to "to charges that many blacks were the "last hired and first fired," [his administration] instituted changes that enabled people of all races to obtain needed job training and employment. These programs brought public works employment opportunities to African Americans, especially in the North" (Link)

"The first precedent-setting local and state level court cases to desegregate Mexican and African American schooling were decided during [the late 1930s]" (Link)

In 1941 thousands of Black Americans threatened to march on Washington for equal employments rights which pushed Roosevelt to issue an executive order that "opened national defense jobs and other government jobs to all Americans regardless of race, creed, color or national origin." (Link)

The Double Victory or Double V Campaign during the war was an explicit campaign to win the war against fascism in Europe and the war against racism as home.

All this to say, Steve would not be unfamiliar with many of the issues tackled during the Civil Rights Movement of the 50s and 60s.

Not only that, but Steve led a multi-racial special unit during the war during a time of active army segregation. Not only does he have a Black man on his team, but also a Japanese man. This would have most definitely led to backlash from higher command as well as discrimination from other units against Jones and Morita. Steve and the entire Howling Commandos would be explicitly aware of prejudice against two of their members and likely had to fight for them many times.

• Anything space travel. It's true Steve wouldn't know anything about attempts to reach the moon. But there were still several space discoveries he could know about, especially since he and Bucky are clearly interested in scientific discoveries, considering how they went to the Stark Exbo before Bucky shipped out.

Some discoveries:

Hubble's Law: In 1929 Hubble published evidence for an ever expanding universe, and thus provided evidence of the Big Bang theory.

1930: Discovery of Pluto (makes me chuckle to think this is a relatively new discovery for Steve and he wakes up to find it is a dwarf-planet now. You think Millennials are protective of Pluto? I think Steve would be too 😆.)

1937: "the first intimation that most matter in the universe is `dark matter'"

Personally I think Steve would be absolutely amazed by the advances in space travel.

• Women's Rights. Like with Civil Rights, while Steve may have missed the large movements during the 50s and 60s, he was around for the early movements. The 60s movement is called Second Wave Feminism for a reason. This is because there was already many pushes for women equality in Steve's time.

For example:

1920: White women win the right to vote. This means Steve's mother first voted in his lifetime. I feel this alone would make Steve heavily aware of inequality faced by women. (As a side note I feel that Sarah always emphasized voting to Steve since it was such a major development in her lifetime.)

Also in the 20s the Flapper trend rose, along with hemlines. Women's skirts were shorter and they smoked and drank with men. Middle-class and working-class women also worked outside of the home. The 1920s-1930s 'modern' woman is very different from the Victorian vision of a woman in petticoats and skirts.

Early Birth Control movement: Was "initiated by a public health nurse, Margaret Sanger, just as the suffrage drive was nearing its victory. The idea of woman’s right to control her own body, and especially to control her own reproduction and sexuality, added a visionary new dimension to the ideas of women’s emancipation. This movement not only endorsed educating women about existing birth control methods. It also spread the conviction that meaningful freedom for modern women meant they must be able to decide for themselves whether they would become mothers, and when."

1936: A Supreme Court decision declassified birth control information as obscene. Legalised doctor-prescribed contraceptives.

WW2 Watershed: Women serve in the army and work factory jobs. The government establishes universal childcare while women work.

Women also wore pants and form fitting clothes to work in factories. We also see Peggy wearing pants during the last assault on Hydra. While Steve may need to get used to modern fashion, he would already be familiar with the 'morale outrage' over women's clothes in his time, and probably try to manage his surprise in private as well as possible.

• LGBTQ+ Rights. Like with the rest of the equality movements, LGBTQ+ rights movements also started before the late 1900s.

1924: "Society for Human Rights is founded by Henry Gerber in Chicago. The society is the first gay rights organization as well as the oldest documented in America." This organisation was broken up soon after founding due to arrests, but it published "the first American publication for homosexuals, Friendship and Freedom."

In the 1920s and 30s "the gay and lesbian movement started taking shape. Social analysts began rejecting prior medical definitions of "inversion" or "homosexuality" as deviant.

Communities of men and women with same-sex affiliations began to grow in urban areas. Their right to gather in public places such as bars was tenuous, and police raids and harassment were common." (Link)

WW2 Watershed: While many LGBTQ people lived in rural areas or outside 'queer neighbourhoods' the war brought people from all backgrounds together. "As with most young soldiers, many had never left their homes before, and the war provided them an opportunity to find community, camaraderie, and, in some cases, first loves. These new friendships gave gay and lesbian GIs refuge from the hostility that surrounded them and allowed for a distinct subculture to develop within the military."

They still had to hide their identities for fear of persecution and a 'blue discharge', however "Gay and lesbian veterans of World War II became some of the first to fight military discrimination and blue discharges in the years following the war."

It's unclear how much Steve would have known about the gay and lesbian rights movement. But in the comics he has a gay friend Arnie Roth, and there are many meta posts (X X X) about how Steve may have lived in a queer neighbourhood.

And, according to my history professor, gay and lesbian soldiers were often protected by their friends in the army instead of outed. This is not to downplay the discrimination and pain outed veterans faced, but there was a comaraderie and understanding that developed between soldiers that protected many gay soldiers.

• Computer and the internet. The seeds of modern computers began during World War Two. Arguably it began earlier with Ada Lovelace. While technology has changed a lot for Steve, there is a long history of it's development.

Colossus Computer: Kept secret until the 70s, it's unclear if Steve's association with the SSR, Peggy (who was a code breaker before SSR) and Howard, would have led him to know anything about the "the world's first programmable, electronic, digital computer", but we see electric screens and machines being used in Captain America: The First Avenger. So he would know something of those mechanisms.

Also the first American TV was broadcasted in the 1939 World Fair, And since Steve and Bucky are already shown going to a science fair, I believe it is reasonable for Steve to know about the concept of television, though it looks much different in modern day.

• Rise of Neo-Nazis. Steve already saw the rise of fascism in his own country before the war, so while I think he would be horrified and saddened to learn of the Neo-Nazi movement, I don't think he would be surprised.

Because:

Eugenics: A large part of the Nazi campaign, this part of the movement originated and was inspired by the United States Eugenics movement. "It is important to appreciate that within the U.S. and European scientific communities these ideas were not fringe but widely held and taught in universities."

Lobotomies and institutionalisations were part of the treatments for disabled and 'weak-minded' individuals during Steve's time. With Sarah being a nurse it is likely Steve knew of these treatments and more. And as a disabled child of immigrants, I have no doubts Steve brushed up with eugenics beliefs many times.

1939: More than 20,000 people attended a Nazi rally in Madison Square while "[a]bout 100,000 anti-Nazi protesters gathered around the arena in protest".

In the comics Steve canonically has a Jewish friend, Arnie Roth. If he wasn't part of the protests against the Nazi rally, he would have heard about it and known about the rise of antisemitic sentiment in the US before the outbreak of the war.

So Where Does That Leave Us?

Steve has a history of anti-racist behaviour. While he would still have a lot to learn from the Civil Rights Movement and no doubt has unconscious biases he grew up with, he also explicitly builds a multi-racial team that would have led to clashes with systemic racism in the army. This would have inevitably led to him and the Howling Commandos taking an anti-racist stance in protection of their members.

Would Steve say the N-word? Likely not. The N-Word already held negative connotations by the 19th and early-20th century. I doubt Jones would be willing to follow a man who would knowing use the insult. 'Coloured' or 'Negro' were seen as the more acceptable terms. So Steve may use those words at first, instead of 'Black' or 'African-American'. 'Negro' is a controversial term for some Black Americans, so this would be something for him to learn, but he would not purposely by insulting or hurtful. And I believe he would adapt as quickly as possible upon learning.

Steve saw the early steps of many social movements. Given what we know about Steve—artist, disabled, immigrant, poor, raised by a single mom, gay and Jewish friend, potentially lived around queer people, worked with Peggy and smiled when she punched a sexiest, and built a multi-racial team—Steve would not only be aware of the social movements of his time, but he would be happy to learn of the developments after he went into the ice.

While it would take some time for him to learn all the changes that happened, Steve's background would led him to be pleased with the changes in society. This is the opposite of being racist, sexist, and homophobic. Some things might take some adjusting for Steve to get used to, but he is already open-minded and has a frame of reference for many of the social changes that happened.

People sometimes bring up Steve's Catholic upbringing to argue about some beliefs he might have. But while I do think this upbringing would lead to some biases, I think Steve's life experience helped counter, or helped him unlearn some of those biases, even before he hit the ice.

Also, as an Irish-Catholic, Steve would have faced some discrimination of his own. It is most certainly not on the same level as other minorities, and things were better in the 20th century. Being very clear, any discrimination Steve faced for being Irish-Catholic would not be systemic or commonplace like racism. But adding his heritage to the rest of Steve's background helps give us a better idea of why he was already open to social movements like the Civil Rights movement before the ice. And it may have made him already more understanding of LGBTQ+ people, who he may have lived around, even if he grew up being taught certain biases.

Other Things We Forget About Steve

He is quite tech-savvy. While Steve would have a lot to learn, we know he is capable. There are a lot of jokes about his technical know-how in Avengers, but I think he's actually managing very well considering it's probably only been a few weeks or months since he came out of the ice.

Examples:

Deleted scene where we see Steve using a laptop in his apartment. He presses the spacebar to pause a video, which is a keyboard shortcut. So not only can he set up a laptop to watch a video, but he already knows key shortcuts.

Deleted scene where waitress mentions 'wireless'. Steve is confused and thinks she means radio. But I think he actually knows about wi-fi at this point, but probably had never heard it referred to as 'wireless' before. By this point he knows radio is not as common, so his real confusion is why the waitress is offering him 'free radio'. If she had said free wi-fi (the more typical phrase in my opinion) I think he would have understood.

Canon scene of Steve helping Tony fix the Helicarrier engines. This is my favourite evidence because Tony asks Steve to look at the relays and Steve makes a quip that they 'seem to run on some sort of electricity' indicating he is out of his depth. But we never see Tony tell Steve what to do. Steve figures out how to fix the relays himself. Tony is busy with the debris in the rotors and the next thing we see is Steve telling Tony the relays are all good.

Steve is much better at adapting and figuring out technology than we give him credit for. This doesn't mean he won't be anxious or uncomfortable with the sheer amount of stuff he has to learn (especially if everyone keeps making jokes about it to him). But by 2014, it's clear he's already mastered all of it, which is amazing when you think about it, because that's only two years of learning.

Steve is very book smart. In the comics Steve goes to art college, implying he finished high school. Even if he did drop out of high school to work, we know Steve is very smart.

We see him unloading a whole suitcase of books in the barracks before he got the serum.

The mental math is must take to throw the shield at the right angles for it to bounce back is insane.

Steve is also known as a master tactician. So it is clear he has the brains and smarts to run his team during the war. Not only that, but he is not just Captain in name. He actually has that rank, which means he passed the Captain's exam. I also have a feeling he would have needed to pass some kind of evaluation to get the serum in the first place.

We see in Steve's 2014 apartment that his bookshelves are full of history books. Steve is a veracious reader and spends a lot of his time catching up on what he missed. Things he didn't learn or were taught differently growing up would definitely exist, but Steve is actively working to counter that.

Steve would swear. Swearing has been a constant throughout all of history. So too, the backlash against profanity. Even if Steve grew up being told not to swear he would have heard it. And, Steve became a soldier. If he didn't swear before the war, he most definitely picked up some of it then.

I think Captain America isn't supposed to swear, and I think Steve would be aware of this perception of the symbol of him. But I think when Steve is comfortable with people, he would swear. We see in Avengers he doesn't swear, but in Avengers: Age of Ultron, he does.

We joke about Steve and the "Language" line, but I think that line has something to do with Steve's history of being perceived as a symbol and as Captain America since he said it 'just slipped out'. So, while Steve may have been encouraged not to swear growing up, and expected not to swear as Captain America, I fully believe that soldier, veteran, and Irish man Steve Rogers does swear.

Wrap up

I hope you liked this deep dive into Steve's history and character.

I think it can be easy to take the past as a lump sum and view everyone in the past through one lens. We know the past was racist, sexist, and homophobic, so we view everyone from the past that way.

And while it's true things were different back then, people were most definitely fighting for change and aware of the issues. There is also a lot of nuance to the past, and a lot that can be gleaned from what we know about Steve.

It's true that Steve would have a lot to learn when it comes to terminology and specific technology, but I believe Steve's background would prepare him for a lot of the social changes that happened after he went into the ice.

#steve rogers #meta #deep dive #long post #captain america #historically accurate #research #sources cited #early 20th century #20th century history #20th century #social movements #marvel #mcu #please don't tag the other post #no drama please #iykyk #historically accurate steve rogers

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socialist-microwave-laser · 3 months

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i'll admit this news about bds now calling for the boycott of standing together has really, really shaken me

i feel like for so long i've been yelling myself hoarse trying to get people to pause for five gddamn seconds and actually talk and listen to each other instead of just yelling past each other and this,,, calling standing together dishonest propaganda for daring to assert that (medinas) israel is diverse, for saying that it's important that we talk to each other rather than dehumanize each other... this is such fucking terrifying rhetoric

i don't know where to go from here. i'm scared

bds call to boycott standing together: https://bdsmovement.net/standing-together-normalization

about standing together: https://www.standing-together.org/_files/ugd/7ff315_5f69682daf404d66849f14af867a6221.pdf

#anarchist #jumblr #standing together #bds list #dehumanization #dehumanisation #anti zionist antisemitism #sources cited

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valkyriesexual · 2 years

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What do you think are good sources where people can find reliable, accurate information on domestic violence (statistics, common strategies abusers use, resources etc)?

the national coalition against domestic violence has many wonderful resources including but not limited to: faqs like why do victims stay, signs of abuse, dynamics of abuse, statistics, and resources

the national domestic violence hotline can help someone in an abusive relationship. you can call 1.800.799.SAFE (7233) or text START to 88788. their website has many wonderful resources as well, including: resources for creating safety plans, the famous power and control wheel which is one of the best tools to help people understand the wide ranging spectrum of abusive tactics that abusers may use, culturally specific resources, and a place to locate local resources.

the national network to end domestic violence (nnedv) has got quite a lot of reports/statistics. a lot. so many reports. reports about how to understand the reports. is it the most accessible website? maybe not. but it's got helpful resources too: FAQs and tips to have an informed conversation about DV

womenslaw.org is a truly exceptional legal resource, with a breakdown of laws by state, information about litigation abuse in particular, and places to go for help.

federal information about domestic violence. statistics for california in particular and places for help in california in particular.

and some books that i keep in my office and re-read regularly:

No Visible Bruises by Rachel Louise Louise Snyder

Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men by Lundy Bancroft

The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. (content warning here, some people have expressed objections to the graphic depictions of traumatic events & the way that the author talks about female victims in particular)

Memorial Drive: A Daughter's Memoir by Natasha Trethewey (gorgeously written as well as very illuminating)

See What You Made Me Do: Power, Control and Domestic Violence by Jess Hill

[if you found this post helpful or informative, please consider subscribing to my substack, it does take me a decent amount of time to research, write, and source posts like this, and substack subscriptions are deeply appreciated]

#answered #sources cited #resources #domestic violence

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sourcingsauce · 8 months

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Not for sure if there is a full version of this image but I have been unable to find it with the nerfed version of google reverse image search and a few other sites claiming they can do similar. Posting this here on the off chance someone knows EXACTLY who drew this and can guide me to the source. This is one of the pieces that haunts me as i have attempted several searches in the past few months. i can add a reblog with the stolen art pinterest pin if that might help.

Edit: FOUND!!! THANK YOU THE AMAZING @mithridacy !!! They were able to locate the source of this pin! https://www.pinterest.cl/pin/100275529196142150a (and a thank you to https://www.pinterest.cl/ChanelAthene who credited the artist by name in the comments, just saw that!)

Original Post: https://x.com/roseflarea/status/1320465224592490499?s=20

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https://twitter.com/roseflarea/status/1320465224592490499?s=20 )

The artist twitter: https://twitter.com/roseflarea They also have an instagram: instagram.com/roseflarea

There we have it, our first solved source! Very grateful for the help!!!

#sourcingsauce #credit the artist #credit the artists #pinterest repost #pls help #not my art #artist found #solved #roseflarea #twitter artist #links #sources cited #sourced art

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chaoticwitchywriter · 1 year

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Shadow Work

Hey everyone! My newest blog post is up. In it I tackle the origins of Shadow Work, offer a few prompts, and, try to de-mystify dealing with the Shadow Self so it’s a little less intimidating.

https://www.nalocken.com/chaotic-witchy-writer/shadow-work-what-is-it-anyway

#chaotic witchy writer #blog #shadow work #jung #psychology #sources cited

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gear-project · 2 years

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Where did you find out that Megumi's last name is Saito? Did the book exist and you witness the content yourself? Megumi's last name is Saito. Axl Low learned "Saitouryuuuko Bujutsu: Rensen" from her family. I can't find any evidence of the above.

Okay, since you're doubtful, I'll list my sources as well as some additional information.

In the Guilty Gear Bible, Megumi (めぐみ) is 'speculated to be' of Japanese Descent (GG Bible says this), and that based on her description from Axl, she had long hair based on his personal taste.

Now here's where things get "a little dicey".

Remember, this is VERY OLD INFORMATION… dating as far back as Guilty Gear X in the 2000s.

ARC System Works, early on, created an information webpage called GUILTYGEARX.COM. (It was more like a blog about Guilty Gear, just like mine… using older methods of posting info.)

Back then, people just took that info as word-of-God without really questioning the source.

There IS another KEY SOURCE to this information… the Guilty Gear X Drafting Artworks book, firstly, which mentions Saitouryuuko Bujutsu: Rensen (斉藤流古武術・錬閃) in the book itself!

This info was also posted in the Japanese Wikipedia entry on Axl Low (which cites GG Bible, 10th Memorial Guide, and GGX Drafting Artworks as its sources).

ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/アクセル・ロウ

There IS HOWEVER, another source which took info from the GUILTYGEARX.COM webpage and mirrored it long ago.

groovy.client.jp/ggx/words/story.html

Here's what the Entry says about SAITOURYUUKO BUJUTSU: RENSEN!

-------------------------------------------------- 斉藤流古武術・錬閃

アクセルの鎖鎌の流派。斉藤ってのは師匠の苗字なのだろうか、ちなみにめぐみの苗字も斉藤。

つまりアクセルは、師匠の娘と交際している事になる。 --------------------------------------------------

Translation: -------------------------------------------------- Saito Old Style Martial Art: Tempered Flash

The Chainscythe (Kusarigama) school of Axl Low.

Is Saitou the last Name of his Master? By the way, Megumi's last name is ALSO Saito.

In other words, Axl is dating his Master's Daughter. --------------------------------------------------

I mentioned this a long time ago, but a certain "person" I knew who worked as a liaison for both ARC System Works and Aksys Games confessed to me that ARC System Works had "lost" a lot of old webpage information from their old GGX website.

This information was considered "relatively canon" within GGX and GGXX at the time, since it included information from the Novels and Drama CDs as well.

What we've come to learn in recent years is that "relatively canon" doesn't always apply (especially in games like GGXrd and GGStrive). Sometimes content gets completely left out, retconned, or cut entirely.

As you may be aware, a character like Erica Bartholomew made an appearance in Guilty Gear Strive, which effectively made the GGXX Novel Butterfly and Her Gale "canonized" within Strive's history and continuity.

So yes, some content was made canon… but does that mean everything was made canon?

In older games, Megumi (in Xrd) had long brown hair, but this was retconned in Strive to be "long black hair" (based on an off-hand photo Axl had of her).

Maybe the idea that Megumi had brown hair in Xrd was just an oversight (she also made an appearance in GGXX in one of Axl's endings as well and her appearance matches Strive's).

Back on topic... this information is REALLY OLD... and whether it applies or not depends on if the story actually wanted to approach the topic.

There was also mention that Testament had a "dislike" for Axl Low's fighting style... now that info is just as "iffy" as this information since it is based on OLD GGX.COM information.

Old Guilty Gear information from the GG Bible makes mention of "Ancient Martial Arts" but does not go in-depth towards the topic, only suggesting that Japanese Martial Arts had a deep spiritual connection with things like psychic abilities (like being able to use Flames before Magic was invented). In actuality, this is likely a NOD to old SNK games like the King of Fighters (which Guilty Gear, on occasion references).

How much of that is significant versus what is canon... or even important to Guilty Gear's storyline isn't made clear (though it was mentioned that Chipp Zanuff and Nagoriyuki come from the same Martial Arts root style... connecting them with Tsuyoshi.)

Anyway, it's up to you if you want to accept VERY OLD INFO as canon or not!

#Sources Cited #Cited Sources #Ancient Martial Arts #Axl Low #Megumi Saito #Saitou Old Style Tempered Flash #Saitouryuuko Bujutsu: Rensen

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cemeterything · 5 months

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obviously people steal things from other people it's one of the oldest tricks in the book but it still always surprises me to learn that people plagiarise because my introduction to the concept was basically being told that if i ever plagiarised anything i would be executed by firing squad and my head would be removed and displayed on a spike outside the walls of the hallowed academic institution i was attending as a warning to others

#🐉#like they were not fucking around they were like you will be BLACKLISTED we will EXILE you there may be FINANCIAL RESTITUTION OWED #if our plagiarism software detects anything suspicious we will FLAY YOU ALIVE IN THE TOWN SQUARE #i still wake up in a cold sweat sometimes wondering if i cited my sources correctly

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somethingorotherer · 12 days

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call my girl sloppenhiemer the way this head the bomb Sources: TheRussianBadger, 2023, december 23. MUSTARD BEEF TURNS RAINBOW SIX TO ASH | Rainbow Six Siege [video]. Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDS1UfT-TJc

#apa 7th edition #sources cited #humor #joke #therussianbadger

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charmee-silly · 4 months

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“studies have shown”

WHAT STUDIES, WHO CONDUCTED THEM, WHERE ARE THEIR RESULTS, CITE YOUR SOURCES

#james somerton #cite your sources

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myfootyrthroat · 5 months

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School: Teaches you something for a week with historical background, context, effects, and outcomes.

One TikToker: Tells you it's fake while doing a bad contour.

Some of y'all: SCHOOL LIED?!

#you think someone would just go on social media and lie?#but their source is a personal blog citing a pop-psychology book! It has to be real!

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robinsversion · 5 months

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How I sleep knowing I always cite my sources:

(First image from the film Drip Dippy Donald (1948); second image from season 4, episode 3 of the Simpsons, “Homer the Heretic” (1992).)

#the irony of me making this post and tracking the sources down at 2am is not lost on me #but it does prove how easy this shit is if I’m doing it with my eyes half closed #James cite your fucking sources #james somerton #hbomberguy #plagiarism #plagiarism and you(tube)#why are you booing me i’m right

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socialist-microwave-laser · 7 months

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i feel torn. people are telling me i cannot support indigenous people, because i don't agree with accounts like blm chicago over on instagram lying, saying the only israeli hostages are soldiers. because i don't feel okay right now marching alongside people chanting 'gas the jews' and holding up swastikas. i feel gaslit as a jew.

is it true that i can't support indigenous folks while being terrified and mourning for the jewish lives lost? how can we share the powerful art of indigenous americans attacking their colonizers and still hold fear for israeli civilians in our hearts? can both be true at once or am i a hypocrite?

i can't pretend to have all the answers for you nonny, i wish i could. i'll walk you through my thought process from a jewish anarchist standpoint, and hopefully that may help you as well. i definitely got a bit rambly and my response is really long, but i think it's all important so i'm just putting it below a cut!

important note about the ashkenazic slant of my response! [link]

1. indigeneity is much less cut and dry when it comes to eretz israel than it does for, say, america, and it's already complicated enough in america

some people say jews are indigenous to eretz israel, some people say most jews are now colonizers in that land. i think this speaks both to the complicatedness of indigeneity and also the struggle of being a jew. determining who is and isn't indigenous in usamerican territories generally boils down to blood quantum under the eye of the state government ("nation on no map" by wc anderson goes into the issues with this approach very well), when it may be better described as a cultural inheritance. in terms of the history of jews. the european colonizations of basically the entire world is very, very recent. (the second temple fell in 70CE, whereas colón only made first contact with the taíno in october of 1492, coincidentally the year spain began its expulsion of jews from the iberian peninsula. this is especially relevant bc many jews began to flee to "The New World™️" trying to escape constant persecution in europe. there are some writings out of jerusalem from this year describing the diversity of people living there, as well as the oppression of jews by muslims at this time.) if you asked me, i think it's too simplistic to call jews either indigenous to eretz israel or colonizers. jews have been on the move and in diaspora since 70CE, a date that is before even the construction of la pirámide de la luna in teotihuacán (more accurately it'd be at least since the fall of the first temple in 500BCE but w/e). the long and the short of it is that jews left jerusalem before the height of teotihuacán, one of the first states in all of mesoamerica. how far back does this definition of indigeneity go? that's not for any one of us to really ask

(i think there's also an issue of white-presenting/-identifying/-whatever jews and specifically ashkenazim claiming this indigenous label that feels very. idk. it's iffy at best to me)

i think the main takeaway i have for this point is that the binary of colonizer/colonized is a lot more difficult than we'd like to think (for an example that hits closer to home, we can talk about african americans' presence in colonized lands, or natives' ownership of slaves in turn. this isn't "whataboutism," it's me illustrating that binaries hinder in-depth understanding of these categories. this discussion could take up books and is not the focus of this post, but please know this is a topic that is very serious and very very nuanced)

2. anarchism and decolonialism is a process, not a destination, and if anybody tells you they know the perfect say to do either of these processes, run the other way

i've see a lot of people in the past few days gesture to the actions of hamas and say "this is what decolonization looks like," and "nobody ever said decolonization will be pretty." this intersects with my fourth point, so i'll leave it at this: decolonizing eretz israel does not necessitate denying the holocaust, calling for the slaughter of every jew "from the river to the sea" (i recommend y'all look into the history of this term), or threatening to spread videos of the torture and murder of jewish civilian hostages throughout social media. this is when i point to the fact that the area that was attacked a few days ago was actually where a lot of leftists lived. also, that the jewish and/or israeli people have been very outspoken about the many atrocities both domestic and foreign by the israeli government for decades. i would say an alternative to what is happening now may have been to work with those protestors (many of whom have been very vocal about the mistreatment of palestinians bc obviously) or like anything that doesn't include holocaust denialism and the rape, torture, murder, defilement, whatever of civilians and children

3. judaism and anarchism teach us to make our homes in the uncomfortable

i'm comforted by knowing that not knowing the correct solution to things means we're on the right track. it encourages us to collaborate, debate, listen, do research, keep our minds open, learn, whatever. i mean when has a jew ever been like "i have the one answer to this complicated problem" and everybody else was like "yeah sweet okay that's solved?" at least in my studies, i've noted that the jewish tradition includes embracing the discomfort of two things being true at once, or nothing quite feeling like the one right answer. this is also an anarchist tradition (at least in the circles i run in). generally, anarchists have the policy of "if someone says they have the one correct solution, run the opposite direction."

basically what i'm saying is, asking these questions doesn't mean you're a bad jew or a bad activist. we all know why pesach is different than all other nights, yet we ask that question every year, and every year we have a discussion that bears new fruit. (the book that really opened my eyes to the homeyness of the uncomfortable is "brilliant imperfection: grappling with cure" by eli clare)

4. our political motivation must be out of love for each other, not hatred of Them™️

this is the most important takeaway from everything, in my opinion, and also my biggest gripe with the loudest leftists online. this is also something i've written many papers about, but i'll try to keep it brief.

if your idea of revolution is based on simply rooting out those you hate, not only will it be horribly unsustainable but your success will hinge on destroying your own motivating force. if you succeed, the people you hate will no longer be present, and you'll have to either pick a new motivating force or pick a new group of people to hate. to use the ussr as an example (bc the notes on this post are already gonna be nuclear-toxic, so what the hell), the ussr spent a LOT of energy after The Revolution™️ policing, surveilling, terrorizing, jailing, and killing its own people. entire generations were never able to trust others because of the constant fear of stepping out of line and being labeled as a threat. in order to keep the momentum of the state afloat, the ussr had to find new people to hate, and that new people had to come out of their own citizenry. it's a common critique of fascism—that their circle of acceptable people will get smaller and smaller until one day it's only one person, and even that one person won't live up to their own ideals.

basically, a revolution built on the hatred of the other rather than the love of the world is a revolution that, in my mind, is not worth having. that doesn't mean revolution must be 100% violence free, lord knows i don't mean that. but having love for humanity allows us to avoid dehumanizing the other (who oftentimes aren't as Other as we think). a lot of landlords are just everyday people who own one property and do genuinely care about their tenants. a lot of cops did genuinely think they were going to make a positive difference. a lot of israelis are just normal, everyday people like you and me (WITHOUT the luxury of being able to just up and move countries). it's worryingly easy to say someone isn't a real activist because they don't vehemently hate Them™️ but honestly to me that's a sign you're on the right track. i am a proud, usamerica-hating anarchist who already has one arrest under their belt, yet here i am still living in the us. and this isn't a contradiction bc dammit i have to live somewhere, and there's nowhere else for me to go even if i did have the money and means to move.

israelis are human beings, just like you and me, and being torn to bits by the atrocities. these people aren't soldiers, they aren't far right politicians, they aren't anything like that. they're human beings, and we can never forget that

#though i do mention a couple books i am not saying those are the only books to read about this. for one i don't include a book on indigenou #lib. that is at least partially bc i don't want to give off the impression that i'm listing every single book i've ever read #some of this wording is clumsy. please assume good faith as i hope i've demonstrated that i am saying all of this in good faith #anonymous #jumblr #jewish anarchism #medinas israel #israel #am israel chai #palestine #leftist antisemitism #anarchism #decolonization #tsiyyonus definition #sources cited

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With the men that do get abused, is there any difference in how domestic abuse presents, specifically when the abusive partner is female? Is it common for men to experience the same level of physical violence and sexual assault that do women? What about post separation aggression, abuse of the court system and cps etc? My initial reaction would be to guess no because of how much societal standing and also physical strength (super generally speaking) play into the power men are able to hold over women but this is really just a gut reaction and I could be wrong. (This is also not to invalidate the effect abuse and control tactics that don’t rise to the level of physical/ sexual assault can have of course.) What is your experience with this working with victims/ survivors?

in my personal experience, all male victims i've worked with have had male perpetrators. this may be because i am part of the lgbtq community, and several lgbtq orgs will refer victims from their agency to me, meaning i may be more likely to see a male victim in a same sex relationship than other attorneys in my field.

based on the existing research i know about, research about female perpetration/male victimization is very controversial & there are many disagreements in academia about the best ways to research this, the shortfalls of various research tools, etc. so with that as a great big caveat, here's what i know of existing research:

i think it's important to start with a consensus in the field: male violence is more likely to lead to serious injury and death of female victims.

male violence tends to inflict more psychological and physical damage than female violence. here and here.

male violence produces injury at roughly six times the rate of female violence. here.

women are also more likely to be killed by their male partners than the reverse. according to the US Department of Justice, 84% of spousal murder victims are female, and women in general are more likely to be killed by their spouses than all other types of assailants combined. here.

Michael Kimmel noted that more than 90% of "systematic, persistent, and injurious" violence is perpetrated by men. here.

from a particularly useful study about female violence: here.

women’s violence usually occurs in the context of violence against them by their male partners;

women and men are equally likely to initiate physical violence in relationships involving less serious “situational couple violence,”

in relationships in which serious and very violent “intimate terrorism” occurs, men are much more likely to be perpetrators and women victims;

studies of couples in mutually violent relationships find more negative effects for women than for men.

and further:

multiple studies indicate that the majority of women's IPV against male partners is in the context of being victimized. here

although less serious situational violence or altercation was equal for both genders, more serious and violent abuse was perpetrated by men & women's physical violence was more likely motivated by self-defense or fear while men's was more likely motivated by control. here

the common motives for female on male domestic violence were anger, a need for attention, or as a response to their partner's own violence. here

although minor domestic violence was equal, more severe violence was perpetrated by men; men were more likely to beat up, choke or strangle their partners, while women were more likely to throw things at their partner, slap, kick, bite, punch, or hit with an object. here

70% of female victims in a study were "very frightened" in response to intimate partner violence from their partners, but 85% of male victims cited "no fear". here

#so idk if that helps #answered #sources cited #domestic violence

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