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chalkeater · 4 months
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they;re some sort of cousins. sorry
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theoddcatlady · 5 months
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We Killed Bobby Tanner
It was me, Jessie Bates, Hunter Gilch, and Gabrielle Edison. We are the reason that Bobby Tanner never returned home that Friday night ten years ago, why every year his parents send out a plea asking for their son to come home. It was us. The senior class rejects.
Jessie was a bit slow and would believe anything you told him. You could tell this boy over a dozen times that ‘gullible’ was written on the ceiling and he’d believe you each of those times.
Gabrielle was pretty popular until her sophomore year when she got gonorrhea after having sex with her cheating shitbag of a boyfriend who didn’t know how to put on a condom. He, of course, blamed her for giving it to him and it didn’t matter what the truth was after that- Gabrielle was labeled a dirty slut and became a social outcast.
Hunter was just… off. Jessie followed him around like a lost puppy, but Hunter was that kid everyone was sure was either going to one day shoot up the school or become a prolific serial killer. Casual conversations would quickly turn sadistic as he’d brag about catching squirrels and birds in traps before killing them and cutting them up. He was the leader of our lil group, probably because the rest of us didn’t have a backbone.
Me, you can pick a reason why I was picked on- I’m fat, I had a serious acne problem, I’m socially awkward and a crybaby. I was an easy target because I’d start to cry when the words got too much and that was exactly what the bullies wanted.
Bobby was one of those bullies. He was everything we weren’t- he had money, he was good looking, he thought he was pretty smart, and he was funny… at least, if you weren’t the butt end of his jokes. We usually were. The only one he didn’t really pick on was Hunter, at least, not if he didn’t have a pack of friends around him. Hunter scared him, and probably for a good reason.
It was Hunter’s idea to kill him, after all.
It was after school, we were all at Hunter’s house. His parents were never home and it was a safe place to chill. I’d just finished throwing the pizza rolls in the microwave when he came out with it.
“What’s your perfect plan to kill someone?” Hunter said, interrupting Gabrielle’s rant about our stupid English teacher Mr. Shea.
Jessie laughed while Gabrielle rolled her eyes. “Really? I don’t have one, Hunter. Because I’m not a sociopath.”
“Come on, it’s all hypothetical,” Hunter waved his hand, “Just go with it. What’s your go to plan?”
Jessie stroked his chin, which had a few scraggly hairs on it that he proudly called his ‘beard’. “Huh… I mean, I guess I’d kill them with my dad’s shotgun so he goes down for the murder? Fuck my dad,” He said.
Hunter snickered while I took a seat on the couch arm and pondered this hypothetical question. “I mean, I’d probably go for making it look like an accident. Like they fell off a cliff or a building, or the brakes in their car just gave out,” I answered.
Hunter looked genuinely impressed. “That’s actually not half bad! Come on, Gabrielle, what do you think?” He asked.
Gabrielle scoffed before she started twirling her hair- she always did that when she was thinking on something. “Oh my god, fine… I think I’d just poison the bastard? I’m not really strong, I mean, neither is Noelle, but here she is threatening to throw people off of buildings,” She elbowed my ribs teasingly.
“It’s a hypothetical question!” I threw my hands up in the air before looking down at Hunter. “Since you asked, I’m sure you already have an answer.”
“Lure them out to the woods before slicing open their throat so I can shower in their blood,” Hunter grinned menacingly and I had to suppress a shudder.
“That’s fucking gross… and would leave so much evidence, you idiot,” Gabrielle shook her head, “Actual sociopath, Hunter Gilch.”
We all laughed until Hunter brought up the next question. “Okay, who would you murder then? Say you could murder anyone and know you could get away with it. Name your picks,” He said as he crossed his arms.
I shifted uncomfortably while Gabrielle shook her head. “Too much, Hunter, too much,” She said.
“Who would you murder?” Jessie piped up with.
Hunter opened his mouth to respond when I heard the microwave beep. “Natural segue, it’s pizza rolls time!” I leaped up from the couch arm and ran into the kitchen. I did hear Hunter say he had a few possibles, but my return with the delicious snack had us completely forget about murder.
Almost.
The next week the cruelest prank was played on me. I got to my locker to see a present from a secret admirer, a box of chocolates with a sweet love letter. I was so overjoyed and I ended up enjoying two or three chocolates before class.
Chocolates that Bobby had laced with laxatives.
Just as the teacher was about to hand out the assignments, my stomach made that oh so uncomfortable gurgling sound and I had to bolt for the bathroom. I… didn’t make it. And I'd been wearing a skirt that day.
Liquid shit dripped down my legs as I scrambled for the bathroom, only to hear the cruelest laughter behind me. I looked, I saw Bobby, I saw his friends taking pictures with their phones, and I realized what happened.
I considered killing myself that night. The whole school knew what had happened. One of Bobby’s friends had texted him to let him know it was going down and that’s how he knew, and the incriminating pictures of me waddling down the hallway with a brown trail behind me spread like wildfire. I’d never live this down.
I’d already decided that I’d take all my mother’s sleeping pills and wash it down with a bottle of vodka when I heard my doorbell frantically ringing.
My mom was out so I ended up dragging myself to the door. When I opened it, there he was- Hunter. It had been raining out and he was soaking wet, gasping for breath as he leaned against the doorframe.
“Bobby. That’s who I’d fucking murder. Bobby fucking Tanner.”
I burst into tears and collapsed in Hunter’s arms.
That’s when we seriously began to plan to murder Bobby.
Jessie took no effort to convince, although I’m not sure he knew we were serious until the night it happened. Gabrielle was on the fence, but after she heard people laughing about ‘Shitstain Noelle’, she agreed to help as long as she wasn’t doing the actual killing part.
We all had a part to play. Gabrielle was the bait. Hunter and Jessie were the muscle. And I was the clean up crew.
I remember going to Jessie’s father’s home improvement shop to pick out the weapons. Jessie might’ve been dumb as a box of rocks when it came to things like school and common sense, but he knew tools. He chattered my ear off about how this certain brand of hammer was known to have its head come flying off if you used it too roughly and how this other brand was hardy and good for long term use.
Hunter picked one of those hammers and tossed it in the air. I never saw him smile quite so genuinely as he added it to the basket.
It was much more fun to actually plan the murder than commit it, at least for me. Each of us did get our own hammer, Jessie jokingly called us the hammer bros and Hunter laughed until he cried.
Gabrielle was probably the best damn bait. She made sure to approach Bobby when he was alone and actually let the bastard feel her up before saying if he wanted more, he should come with her after school. I was her back up, watching from around the corner just in case he got too much. I saw how he ogled her, he was entranced. Sure she was a slut, but she was still hot, and Bobby was still a teenage boy.
She had him drive them to the woods near Jessie’s place. We were all in position. The car pulled up and Bobby was far too focused on making out with Gabrielle to notice Hunter storming up to the car. By the time Hunter ripped the door open, it was too late for Bobby to get away.
The plan didn’t feel real until Hunter cracked the hammer against Bobby’s mouth.
Bobby screamed as Hunter dragged him out, bringing the hammer down again and again on his head. Jessie joined in and began smashing him wherever he could, but Hunter did most of the work. Jessie was more timid, he didn’t have it in him to really kill someone else.
Hunter did though. Bobby screamed and begged for him to stop. I don’t think he ever threw a punch back, he didn’t have a chance.
When he finally ceased crying and struggling, his face was a swollen, bloody mess. You couldn’t tell who he used to be. I think Hunter would’ve continued beating him if Jessie didn’t tell him it was enough. Bobby was dead.
The next part of the plan was performed mechanically. Hunter and Jessie took Bobby’s car to a deeper part of the woods where it was dismantled. Gabrielle went home. And I took care of the body, throwing it in the nearby river, tied with rocks, where it’ll never be seen again.
They sent search parties. People were dragged in for questioning. Even Hunter was, but we each other’s alibi- we were at Hunter’s house all night and he didn’t go anywhere. Probably the best stroke of luck was that Bobby didn’t tell anyone he was going out with Gabrielle. He was probably going to save the bragging for later.
People completely forgot about ‘Shitstain Noelle’ now that Bobby just up and disappeared. People talked about how he was such a good kid with such a promising future. Some rumors sprouted up about how all the pressure from his parents just made him crack and he took off to live in Florida or some shit. Other people still continued to point the finger at Hunter, saying we were just covering for him. Never really thought we participated though.
But I lied.
Bobby Tanner wasn’t dead when I took him to the river.
It came as a shock to me when I went to lift his body out of the bed of Jessie’s truck and he groaned. I nearly screamed. Somehow after being pulverized, Bobby was still alive.
I had a choice. If I dumped him in the water, he’d drown. No question about it. It was up to me now to finish the job.
Or maybe I couldn’t. Maybe when faced with the choice at the end, I just couldn’t.
Bobby was stashed under my bed. Every day when I came home from school, I expected to find him dead, but somehow he’d kept clinging onto life. I took care of him best I could with what supplies I could pick up over the counter, I fed him food turned into paste, and I’d clean up after him.
He wasn’t really… Bobby anymore. Even when his face healed, it was all crooked and puffy. I think sometime during the beating Hunter knocked one of his eyes out, because it was just gone, I don’t know what happened to it. I had to teach him how to go to the bathroom, how to eat by himself. I asked him if he remembered who I was, if he remembered Noelle.
All I got was a blank stare.
Bobby went with me to my new place when I moved out of my mother’s house. I taught him how to be quiet and stay still in the trunk I’d keep him in. During the day he knew to hide under the bed, when I got home from work he’d always give me a hug before lying down on the couch. He knew not to be seen, he listened to whatever I said. It was like having a son.
I never told the others. After the murder we just… grew apart. Things weren’t the same. Hunter was more manic and morbid than ever, Jessie became quiet and threw himself into work at his father’s shop, and Gabrielle…
Gabrielle couldn’t live with what we did. She hung herself about three months after our group murder. It was too much for her. I wish I told her at least that we didn’t kill Bobby. It’s probably the only reason the guilt hasn’t consumed me either.
But maybe I shouldn’t have kept him alive, either.
Like I said, it’s been ten years. Bobby’s made leaps and strides in taking care of himself, he can even heat up leftovers in the microwave. For the longest time, he was a blank slate. I was his Noelle, the woman taking care of him. His only friend. The world outside was a bad place, was the reason he lost himself.
Last week I left out some old things while doing some spring cleaning. Most importantly, I left out a book of pictures. I came back home to see Bobby staring at a picture of my friends. I asked him what he was doing and he just shrugged and I thought that was that. He didn’t have his memories, after all.
Well that picture knocked something loose. I came home today to find Bobby was gone, with that picture torn up in little shreds. Sometime that afternoon someone broke into the home improvement store that Jessie still worked at and beat him to death with one of the hammers.
I’m trying to get in contact with Hunter now, I know he still lives in the state but we haven’t spoken in years.
I just hope I’m not too late.
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bitwynn · 2 years
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weird kind-of-kind-of-not sagau fic idea that i might make myself LOL
isekaied reader/guide introduces them to Among Us. Specifically to the Mondstat Vision Holders. Everyone goes fUCKING FERAL for the duration of the game-- maybe even AFTER the game AHAHAHA
and like-- god im just imagining this specific scenario where you recreate the amongus maps in ur teapot so you guys could play irl and albedo or tubby develops a teapot leisure device specifically for it so you guys could ACTUALLY FOR REAL PLAY AMONG US IRL IN THE TEAPOT
everyones wearing the suits and they got the tablets with the report button and emergency meeting buttons and everything, and albedo figures out how to stream it to the rest of Teyvat-- with everyones different povs and things and everyones just rooting for everyone and ISERHLgFSLERHJkG
okay wow-- i got sO OFF WHAT I ORIGINALLY WANTED TO SAY AHAHAH but hey at least i set some ground rules first AHAHA
but yeah. so, imagine this--
this game of among us is composed of the knights and also Venti. So thats Diluc, Kaeya, Jean, Amber, Lisa, Albedo, Sucrose, Eula, Noelle, and of course Venti. The map here in this scenario is irrelevant but, I do have to say that the "additional roles" of Scientist, Engineer, Shapeshifter, and Guardian Angel have also been added and are all implemented into this game.
the first round? rotation? whatever you call it is actually pretty eventful with Albedo, Noelle and Venti already dead. Its actually really alarming since even if its just a game, Albedo actually takes this game REALLY SERIOUSLY and shows off his skill as the captain of the investigation team. hes the actually legit detective player-- one of his greatest plays actually being how he immediately figured out who the imps are bEFORE the game even started and bEFORE ANYONE DIED. The imps that game were very annoyed (playful) to say the least.
Noelle getting got is also like-- really serious since, as everyone knows, shes very helpful. a little too helpful. when she fully trusts someone, she will do everything she can to keep them alive and safe. and if that someone is sus abt someone, she is determined to help them figure out whether or not that person is an impostor or not. ultimate crewmate basically. one of her more "scary" plays is when she unwittingly became third impostor and LITERALLY BROUGHT EVERYONE TO THEIR DEATHS. THATS HOW HELPFUL SHE IS. god she felt SO BAD afterwards but it was a good name nonetheless.
The imps killing Venti off early meant that they werent playing around anymore, because that man has the GREATEST SOUL READ OUT OF EVERYONE. helps that hes also god but we dont talk abt that and also he cant use his archon powers to cheat LOLLL. One of his most memorable moments is how before they even started the game, he cORRECTLY PREDICTED WHO THE IMPS WOULD BE THAT ROUND. when the imps received their roles, they were definitely a bit more than shocked. in that same game, he just voted the two imps to break the tie for shit and giggles. and thats how they won the game. crack energy was strong in that one LOL.
The fear and distrust is rampant the whole discussion time, with Amber and Sucrose lowkey and highkey respectively panicking, Eula making hasty assumptions, Lisa challenging those assumptions, Diluc and Kaeya at each others throats, and Jean trying and failing to get things under control. They did nOT get anywhere during that and all begrudgingly voted to skip despite being at everyones throats. everyones suspecting everyone and the only people there who are FOR SURE innocents are Amber or Sucrose.
this is because, while they both may be lousy at being imps, they still act mostly the same both as imps and crews-- aka trying their best to be helpful and win. they're both usually kinda bad at lying. not that theyre bad, its just that theyre not good and you can usually tell if theyre truthing or not by the amount of information they provide and how eager and confident they are abt it. using that knowledge, they all simultaneously agree to shadow those two everywhere since they can tell that yes, they are crewmates, yes amber did watch sucrose fumble the id card 15 times because she keeps dropping it or doing it too fast or slow, yes sucrose did the vials first before walking around the map a bit to find her next task.
so thats what happens-- they split up into group amber and sucrose and go on opposite sides of the map. and then the sabotage happens. the lights die. the amber group, consisting of, of course, amber, jean and diluc, is closer and they rush to lights where team sucrose hadnt reached yet. they all pile up into a group and pull up the lights interface. and as they set it down, theyre immediately greeted by eula reporting a dead body and amber screaming.
after jean manages to get everyone down to a respectable volume, she asks for everyone to give their testimony since she had the interface up. amber nervously says that since there were so many people at lights already, she decided to not fix it but instead watch out for any impostors that might make a move. but when she saw the blood splatter, she couldnt see who did it clearly since they were at the edge of her visibility which is when she immediately rushed forward and spammed the report button.
eula backs her up and them immediately accuses lisa of killing sucrose, off the bar that the second the lights went off she had lagged behind. lisa is greatly offended, talking about how shes targeting her since the first round with no solid basis and eula strikes back with her saying something that lisa did in the first round that made her look sus. and then diluc and kaeya start rilling it up by backing the side that they were with the most, diluc backing lisa and kaeya backing eula even if they only saw the other in passing. it gets real petty REAL fast. literally the only reason diluc is backing lisa is because while jean is trying her best to be fair, she obviously favors lisa a bit more while kaeya siding with eula is more reasonable because they actually spent time together.
it ends with amber tying the votes since despite trusting jeans judgement, all eula had done was back her up and let her voice be heard in the two times theyve had discussions and proven herself to be innocent-- lisa got voted out by kaeya and eula and amber, and eula got voted out by jean and diluc and lisa. the second their screens fade back to the table they all realize that theres gonna be no rounds left since they havent figured out who one of the imps are and theres only six of them left. all it takes is for them to kill two and its over.
they all decide to separate and spread themselves as far as they can throughout the ship to get their tasks done as fast as they can. and as amber and jean start to walk out of medbay and are greeted by kaeya and diluc suddenly appearing in the back of the room, they know that the brothers have won.
everyone is screaming when the impostor win screen pops up, featuring diluc and kaeyas beans. literally NOONE expected them to win, considering the fact that they have been at each others throats the whole time both ingame and irl. fucking NOONE expected them to just-- quietly team up to MASSACRE the entire ship. because really-- who WOULD expect it??
their entire among us game history is just them bickering with each other, it gets like-- really kind of emotional and concerning sometimes-- theyve gotten banned from playing multiple times since the whole "being an impostor" thing has very similar connotations with being a spy from another country and we aLL KNOW HOW THAT WENTTTT
the synergy between the two-- ugh--
eula is just mad she accidentally became the third impostor. AGAIN.
oh yeah, kaeya was the shapeshifter. the first kill in the first round was a double kill with venti and noelle. diluc vented out of the scene but popped up in a room where albedo was but his cooldown was still going so he just did his best to try and herd him away from the button and hope that he runs into kaeya. and fortunately kaeya does run into them, and a bit of hope blooms in albedos heart which was then promptly crushed by kaeya murdering his ass. he then watches as he turns into venti and they both leave the scene. from the second he knew they were working together, he knew they were screwed. but he does respect using the quiet expectation that they would never get along to their advantage.
the bickering did have some actual heat behind it though since diluc obviously almost fucked them in the ass when he vented infront of bedo AHAHA
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blackheart-6 · 8 months
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undertale noelle
explanation under read more (be warned, its long)
hi yall!
I've had an idea floating in my head for the past few weeks, and I've finally finished the first art(s) for it ^^
here’s the previews, and I'll start explaining this au under it (I've put a lot of thought into it, so I hope yall enjoy it 😁)
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okay, so pretty much the basis for this au is Noelle in Undertale, but I did 2 main changes; the first one is that she was born around a similar time to Chara and Asriel (like in [this old drawing|http://aminoapps.com/p/d8277i] I made a while ago), making them childhood friends, and the second change is that Shes a boss monster (which, as far as I know, there is no confirmation that only the dreemurrs are boss monsters, so I decided in this au (and as far as I'm concerned, in deltarune as well (there's a lot of reasons I came to this conclusion, but I don’t think anyone cares lol)) the holidays are boss monsters). so yeah, that's the basis of this au
so, here’s a timeline of events
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It's all the same as canon (and all the major dates like Chara or frisk falling are my normal headcanons, regardless of au or not) until 200X, when Dess and Noelle are born (Dess roughly like 4 or so years older). then it's all the same until sometime in 201X, when Rudy dies (I imagine that, like deltarune, he is sick. with the deaths of 2 children, he considered family and all the other stuff going on, it made his sickness far worse, causing his death).
After that, in 202X, I had the first non-Chara human fall. in my mind I consider this one justice, but it doesn't really matter at all. I just went with justice because I have Noelle's horn broken in my design, so I imagine justice shot it. anyways, the human falls, and encounters Dess and Noelle in snowdin. even though asgore, at this point, as declared war on humanity because of Chara and Asriel's death, the holiday sisters had known a human for years, and they saw that humanity could be good. so, Dess approached the human and, in fear, the human shot her in the soul, killing her, and shot Noelle in the antler. Noelle, seeing her sister die right in front of her, and after every other tragedy Shes gone through, sort of goes into a rage and kills the human with her ice powers, turning her eyes permanently white and cementing her hatred for humanity.
After this, Dess's dust and the humans soul and corpse were found, but Noelle had run off into the woods, because the little rational part of her mind didn't want to hurt any of the towns people. She stayed there for a while, calming down as much as possible, before she returned home (side note, her mother is the mayor of snowdin here; not that important, but I thought I'd mention it) eventually.
from Dess's death on, Noelle had 3 purposes in her heart. to practice her magic so she could eliminate any humans she encountered ever again, and, when the monsters eventually became free, she would be able to fight in the war and prevent the humans from ever hurting the monsters again. and the last purpose? to see the stars. Dess had loved the stars (in theory) and had always wanted to see them, so Noelle knew she wouldn't give up until Noelle had seen the stars for Dess.
at this point, she waits until she's an adult, and the moves out to live in the woods, so she can practice magic without the fear of injuring any monsters, and because she's seen so many people around her die that she doesn't want to be around when more peoples she's known for years also inevitably die while she doesn't. She lives in a cottage in the woods, doing things like practicing her magic, working out, making food, reading books, sewing, and other random things like that to keep herself entertained. she originally didn't leave her house, and asgore, in his worry for her, would send her food and things, but as she got older and mellowed a bit, she would leave like roughly once a month to go buy things she needed and to meet up with asgore for tea. she would also go see her mother occasionally, but her mother was always trying to convince her to move back to snowdin and become mayor, which Noelle had no interest in doing.
Now I'll talk more about Noelle's relationships with the people in her life. She was very close to Asriel when he was alive and considered him like a sibling. and when Chara fell, she also grew quite close to them, admiring their internal strength. she was also quite close to her dad and sister before they also died, which is why she was hit so hard when all these important people in her life, who were supposed to live a very long time, died all quite close to each other.
Her relationship with her mother has always been quite complicated. even before all the tragedy happened, Noelle's mother (who I'll call carol) had considered Noelle the golden child who would take after her mayoral duties. young Noelle probably would have become the mayor if all the bad things hadn't happened, but once they did there was no way Noelle would ever want to be the mayor (being around all those people, knowing she would outlive them all sounded live a personal hell to her). and after the bad things, while Noelle still lived with carol for a few years, carol was trying to be a good mother and get Noelle to try and process all the bad things in a healthier way, rather than devoting her life to getting revenge. but Noelle was ruthless in her motivations, and she didn't really listen to anything her mother had to say. once she moved out, she didn't really speak to her mother in years, but one time when she was having tea with asgore, he mentioned how Noelle's mother wasn't getting any younger, and how Noelle should spend time with her mother, before she never has the chance to. This inspired Noelle to start talking more with her mother (maybe Noelle even has a phone at this time, so they call) and trying to let bygones be bygones. Eventually her mother does pass, but it doesn't hurt Noelle as much because she knows her mother lived a full life.
Noelle's relationship with toriel is quite complicated, so let's talk about that. When Noelle was younger, she liked toriel a lot, and was quite happy to call her family. but after Chara and Asriel died, and toriel left for the ruins, Noelle started feeling more complicated feelings for her. Noelle still tried to stay in touch with toriel, going to the ruins door and chatting through it, but one day after Dess's death, they get in an argument. Noelle thinks toriel running off to the ruins was cowardly and an awful thing to do, abandoning her kingdom in its time of need. and toriel letting the human leave the ruins, letting the human kill Dess, rather than taking the humans soul and going up to the surface and freeing the monsters was unforgivable. but toriel, who once lived on the surface and knows that humans aren't awful, refuses to kill any humans, and while she does feel awful about Dess, she couldn't have known the human would do that. both of them refuse to give in to the others beliefs, so Noelle declares her disgust for toriel and leaves the door and doesn't speak to toriel for a long time, not until the monsters are free. after the pacifist ending, Noelle and toriel start slowly reconnecting, just through hobbies and stuff, and avoiding the elephant of their fight. Eventually, they know they have to talk about it, and while they both do still agree with what they said (mostly), they agree that it's all in the past, and that there's nothing to be done now. They never become as close as they once were, but they do reconnect.
The main relationship in Noelle's life is her connection with asgore. even when she moves out, she still hangs out with him, and he is the one who built her house. They both mostly drink tea while chatting, but they both like the company. and, when Noelle gets a phone, they chat far more, just talking about their days and what they've done. I imagine Noelle had continued to talk to him the most because he had declared war on humanity, something she had greatly agreed with (she does agree with toriel on one thing though, that asgore should have taken the first soul he got and went to the surface, but she doesn't want to fight with him and lose the last connection to her old life).
and now I'm on her life after the pacifist ending. imagine her surprise when she gets a phone call from asgore saying to come to his castle, and that the barrier has been broken. She's probably in shock at this moment, knowing that this could happen any time, yet not truly believing things could ever change. She does go to new home in almost a trance, not knowing if she should dare hope. but, when she gets to asgores castle, she's greeted with the sight of the barrier being gone, and monsters leaving en masse. She also leaves and is greeted with a beautiful sky full of stars.
I have a lot of ideas of what Noelle does post pacifist, but I've already rambled way way way too much lol. I can't imagine anyone made it to the end of this mess of text, but if you did, I salute you. o7
oh yeah, I still haven't showed off my designs. whoops, I prattled on and on so much, I forgot to even show the art
so, here’s the first drawing
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This is the base I used for the other 3 drawings. This is just showing off her fur pattern (which is pretty much the same fur pattern I give her normally). I tried to make her super fluffy, because I imagine its quite cold in the snowdin forests, so she's adapted to have fuller, longer fur. and I tried to give her a bit of aging on her face, to show she's an adult, but it's kinda hard to see. and her horn is broken, which I mentioned above (tldr, the human who killed Dess also broke her horn)
and here’s her first outfit
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the outfit is based off the outfit I usually give dark world Noelle, but I got rid of the bell (I felt like it was more childish, which, there's nothing wrong with having childish things as an adult, but I wanted to show how she's matured) and I added more fur on it, for extra warmth. I also added sleeves for the same reasons. I gave her a braid in this drawing (I kinda regret that now, and wish I had changed the hairstyle, but I didn't want to change it) because I feel like Noelle probably gets bored and does her hair in different styles a lot (also why it's so long). and I gave her white streaks to show her age and because it made her feel more ice-like to me (and I made her hair fade to a lighter blonde for the same reason, and it's also a call back to an [old drawing|http://aminoapps.com/p/4g8sqw] I've made before where I also faded her hair). I imagine she wears this when she's outside in the forest.
here’s the second outfit!
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This one is probably my least favorite, because I just couldn't get the colors right, so I'll probably edit it some other time. This outfit was based on the outfit color scheme I gave child Noelle. like you can see in [this drawing|http://aminoapps.com/p/d8277i], I gave her a red and green sweater and a brown skirt. but in the adult drawing I gave her a brown sweater and red and green stockings (I think I'm so clever lol). The stockings were also based on the red and green leg warmers I normally give her in her light world form too. I imagine she wears this outfit in her house, because it's not as cold in there so she doesn't have to layer as much
and here’s her final outfit (for now, at least. if people like this au I might do more 🤪)
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for this one, I just gave her the actual dark world dress she had in-game. but in Undertale I like to think she put some magic on it that makes it cooling, so when she goes to other parts of the underground, she isn't super hot. I gave her an ice antler, mostly because I thought it looked cool, and because having a normal silhouette (from a distance) might make her seem less odd, so she can get around without being bothered. I gave her curly hair, like I used to do in most of my drawings (but I don't do as much) as a callback!
also, I totally forgot to include a ring in any of these drawings, but I meant to give her some soo-
Well yeah, that's all I've got for now!
if you've made it this far, have a cookie 🍪
and have a great day ^^
(this is 2k+ words long-)
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zora-moyashi · 2 years
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... ah kris you sweet summer child. we love you.  okay so yall want my head cannons? haha well you’re gonna get them anyway. ramblings ahead
first off the only thing I can think of that kris would say to make susie back of like this is “good” in response to susie saying their mom will be so much happier without them after susie bites their head off. cause, ya know, that’s kinda messed up. while susie acts the way she does we’ve learned that she’s really got a good heart under there so that kinda hit her and she left them alone for the day.  now, saying kris is suicidal is not a stretch with how we’ve seen them act, pulling out their “own” soul, having no energy, falling asleep in class basically instantly, their friends (asy, dess, and noelle who feels like kris doesn’t care about her) not being around them anymore. we can just feel the angst rolling off them, and of course wanting the soul to leave them alone so badly that they rip it out very often to just have a second away from us though it clearly hurts. now i’ve had this theory for a while, and i don’t really look at other’s theory’s so i’m 100% certain others have said something basically the same as what i’m going to but i don’t care at the moment. continuing.  
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first, kris and frisk have the same exact hair and skin color as you likely know, so it’s pretty clear they are the same person just older. my head cannon is that kris here is a frisk that finished a possessed pacifist run meaning chara owns their soul now and has free run of the world to do whatever they like after the game is over and we lose control of them. so as usual we have 3 people fighting for power here, frisk, chara, and the player you. as flowey has stated, time passes after you beat the game of undertale and life goes on for frisk. now, want to know something messed up? cool, glad you do, frisk was 100% suicidal (in my headcannon) by the time they climbed mount ebott that was all they wanted, just death. this is why frisk doesn’t answer any call on the surface even though the monsters call them, they finished the job after they got to the surface and had control of themself again. (it was chara who tripped and may have wanted to live, just away from humans) if you leave frisk on a normal pacifist run then they go on with life because now they have their friends, life’s so much better for them. in neutral routs it’s all the same as before and they end theirself. chara is with us during every playthrough of undertale because they join the second we join. chara’s soul essence powered up frisk’s and (likely) made them able to reset and that jazz as it was two human souls in one. why didn’t chara’s essence go with any of the other people that fell on their dead body and flowers? red souls so they were way more compatible. chara is probably very sleepy and not really sure what’s going on through the game but during the geno run where you are doing so many horrible things, killing the ones chara was trying to save, you finally wake them up for good.  so, in corrupted pacifist line now that chara is in almost complete control of frisk’s body (or at the very least it’s just chara against frisk sense you finished the game and can’t do anything again) they can finally live their life happily with their monster family. but what’s missing? asriel. The one chara cared most about and got killed. Chara has had a taste of godlike power, why can’t they have their best friend? they can turn back time so why not? that’s where things get messy. I personally think that chara got frisk to agree to get sans’ machine working (that thing in his lab that i presume hops dimensions seeing as he’s from the deltarune world (right??? that’s right right?)) and sense they can turn back time they have all the time they could possibly want to figure this out. The idea is that this chara/frisk combo child finds the perfect alternate universe for themself. one where everyone’s already above ground, one where their family is together and happy, one where asriel is alive. they chose this world to join and make their permanent home. (maybe the coordinates to this au were already in sans’ machine so they got to this place easily) so seemingly to everyone in their own au right after they get to the surface with them, chara/frisk ditches them and gets ready to go to their new home, still a young child as frisk is. chara/frisk now kris, as it’s literally a combo of their names (Chara as in character which should be karacter i don’t know why it’s a ch lmao) then lives out their childhood in this au that they thought would be perfect for them. finally a fair life for two kids that had it rough. chara likely made a deal saying something of the sort “we’ll die after we live our live here” and frisk was like “fine whatever” but keep in mind frisk is so tired, so mentally ill it’s hard to even get up and walk without chara practically making them. hence school zombie. hell, it’s possible that frisk died during the fall to the underground and it really is a zombie. unlikely though.  anyway the theory was that frisk is the one pulling out the soul to finally have full control for a second, that’s why there is blood on the floor by the birdcage before you’ve even had any control in this au, meaning frisk was fighting against chara. however, at the end of chapter one we see frisk’s eyes shine red for a second and that is a chara thing. so that would mean that it’s not just the soul that chara can control, it’s also the body. (which mmmmm i don’t knoooooow about that one chief) chara would recognize your presence and knows you're the one that made them go through all this, you’re the one that killed the ones they loved so obviously they’re like “not today satan”, so i’m still unsure if the soul is us and chara completely or if chara has some control over the body as well. i don’t know and i won’t know for years probably. anyway that is all i think. farewell 
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zombvibes · 2 years
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According to the tags of your last Allyswap post, you have other AUs. Would you like to share the premise/any doodles you have?
This sounds you’re interrogating me, anon. /lh
Anywho, I DO have other aus and YES I would LOVE to share junk about them.
So when I made the teammateswap and allyswap guys, I had multiple ideas for the characters (obviously). So one day I thought “Man. I still really like these ideas and I wanna use them.” So I did!! Which became the alt aus like as in : alt teammateswap and alt allyswap. They were originally called tms! side b and as! side b. (Which tbh? Might go back to those names…not sure though.)
Like normal teammateswap and allyswap : alt tms is susie swapping with noelle, noelle swapping with berdly, and berdly swapping with susie. alt as is susie swapping with berdly, noelle swapping with susie, and berdly swapping with noelle!
And if y’all don’t mind I’ll just share their (old icky) sprites and some haha hehe dialogue boxes :
TOP = alt teammateswap , BOTTOM = alt allyswap
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(There’s also art of them but um. It’s too old and grody for me to show on here. Unlike twitter, I want to seem prim and proper on tumblr /j)
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Anyways, I’ll probably redesign them at some point and make them ““official”” and also because some swaps don’t really make sense. (But mostly talking about the Susies and Noelles here. The Berdlys are only there so the Noelles could mess with them. Don’t tell anyone I said that though.)
There’s also like…other random aus I thought would be cool or funny but I don’t plan on doing a lot with them (which I will list now) :
THE TIMEOUT AU
- An old snowgrave au idea I had where during the Berdly fight right before Noelle does her spell, Kris rips us out of their chest and puts us in a far they found in a trashcan off screen. Kris would finish the chapter without you and you’d have to watch and think about what you’ve done. (Hence the name.)
- I already talked about how the au would work on twitter but I doubt you’d wanna go onto twitter to see something so I’ll just copy and paste everything here :
This route is called The Timeout route! Kris is tired of your bullshit so they stuff you in a jar they found in one of the trashcans from the city! You get to watch Kris, Noelle, and Berdly finish the chapter without you because you’re a prick! To start this route, during chapter 1 you have to make Kris play the piano (which they do poorly). (You’ll probably have to do many other things to piss Kris off but I can’t think of any at the moment..just know that playing the piano is not optional) Chapter 1 ends as normal! Chapter 2, you gotta start the weird route! Like just killing stuff, then you get the ring etc. But when you get to the Berdly fight, there’s a small chance that Kris stops Noelle right before she does snowgrave. Afterwards, Kris (still in battle) rips out their soul and walks off the screen. There’s trash can rummaging noises the the background. Noelle and Berdly stand there shocked and Berdly asks what’s wrong with Kris. Noelle said that Kris was acting weird all day. Kris comes back with a jar that has their soul in it. Noelle and Berdly proceed to flip their shit. Kris puts the jar in their inventory and grabs Noelle and Berdly’s hands and drags them off to the right thus ending the battle. You get to see Noelle and Berdly ask Kris plenty of questions that Kris ignores and says that they’ll talk about it later. When Kris and co meets up with Susie and Ralsei, they notice that Kris is different. Susie asks what’s wrong, and Kris says that they’ll talk later. Yadda yadda yadda Everyone gets caged (except for Ralsei). Things happen as normal with some things happening differently cause Kris is in control duh. When Susie and Kris are in front of the fountain, Kris takes out the jar and opens the jar. The soul comes out and does its thing. Susie stands there shocked. Once they’re in the lightworld, everything happens normal. Berdly and Noelle leaves thinking it’s all a dream. Susie after they leave looks bewildered at Kris then shakes them : “What the hell was that all about????” You can finally control Kris here and pick between : Tell her what happened and What are you talking about? Telling her what happened : Susie becomes even more confused and Kris (out of your control) says that they’ll elaborate at some point and the conversation ends there. “What are you talking about?” : Susie flips out even more and shakes Kris angrily. Kris doesn’t say anything (this is your doing) and Susie just says : “Whatever…” and leaves without Kris. Susie will still have the sleepover but will be weird around Kris (depending on what which option you choose). Everything will end the same but Kris puts you in the cage and not between the couch. You’ll sit there not being able to see what happened to Susie and Kris. You’ll hear what happened though, you just can’t see it. Then the chapter ends! …Btw you don’t fight spamton in this route, Kris just doesn’t fight spamton.
- (I would’ve made the route work a little different if I worked on it NOW but hey…you get the idea I hope.)
- This au was meant to basically Kris giving the player the middle finger
DELTARUNE BUT IT’S SUMMER NOW I GUESS
- Another old idea I had. It’s normal just deltarune but it takes place during summer school. (Or just the summer I didn’t put too much thought into it. I just wanted to see Kris and Susie have fun in the sun together tbh) It all started because I wanted to make a Phineas and Ferb reference—
TIMESKIP AU
- What kind of au hoarder would I be if I didn’t make a “They’re adults now” au? It mostly focuses in Kris, Susie, and Noelle (Berdly’s there too but I mean…he’s just there. Not too important). The darkners don’t really age in my timeskip au because I just…think they wouldn’t really age like lightners would? Since they’re objects? I feel like they would still look the same but like…with eyebags or dirt/dust on them or something. (Didn’t think about it too much,,)
- They’re all around 20 something? 25??
- There’s art of this too but again…too old and grody for me to show. Pretty sure I posted timeskip suselle stuff on here once but you’ll have to find it yourself I’m not linking it. It’s still a little embarrassing,,,
- I think I may redesign them in the future since they look too “self indulgent” and not how I would actually imagine them in their 20s.
- It’s basically The “Everyone gets facial hair now” au honestly LMAO
SPECIES SWAP
- Another obvious thing for an au hoarder to have— Basically, Kris is a reptile, Susie is a goat, and Ralsei is a human! (There’s also Noelle, who’s a bird, and Berdly, who’s a reindeer…but. I’ll probably not do that or at least it wouldn’t be “canon” to the au.)
- In this au, Susie is a darkner and Ralsei is a lightner (along with Kris.) And this is kind of a role swap as well (kinda?). Ralsei would be the one the player controls. Kris isn’t controlled by their soul and has their regular personality. Susie and Lancer were already established to be buddies before Kris and Ralsei arrived in the dark world. Though in this au, Susie’s personality would be a little goofier to match with Lancer’s. She’s still mean though but chapter 2 mean and not really chapter 1 mean. Ralsei would talk but we wouldn’t be able to hear him (like with human Kris.) He does talk way more than human Kris though. Kris doesn’t talk at all unless necessary or for a funny/dumb quip. For their dark world versions um tbh? I can’t really choose on whether Ralsei should have a sword (like human Kris) or magic (like goat Ralsei). I guess the sword would make more sense but goat Susie would feel a little empty if she isn’t swinging her big ol’ axe around. Again…didn’t think about it too much. OH YEAH AND darkner goat Susie is a prince like goat Ralsei is. (Not princess though because Susie still has her butch lesbian swag in this au)
- Uhhh I do have concept art but it’s not much…I hope to actually sketch out the concepts at some point because darkner goat Susie sounds so much fun to work on!! I have clear ideas of everyone’s designs in my head, just didn’t put it “paper” yet.
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So uh…YUP! Think that’s all! If anyone’s interested on hearing about or seeing a specific au, I’ll try my best to elaborate on it more or quicking sketch out something)
(I’m asking you to send me asks about them if you’re curious)
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honeybouquets · 2 years
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NEO could be an abbreviation of something
NEO is a recurring word that is mentioned by several characters in undertale and deltarune 
NEO seems to be associated with greater power as going by the dialogue of characters:
Mettaton claims that his neo body is his true form before the neo fight which of course turns out to be a fakeout since he goes down in one hit
Jevil says “The true and neo chaos” before he uses his powered up move
Queen wants Noelle to apparently create a “neo dark fountain” from how she considers Noelle to be rather strong 
Spamton really wants the NEO body and does get more powerful when he’s now in it
Swatch did state how the neo body has incredible power from a lightener has filled it with their hope 
The only other capitalized words that denotes power is LOVE and EXP which are short for Level of VIolence and Execution Points where one can get stronger the more one continues killing
Thus what would NEO be short for? Well here’s a possible idea: NEO could stand for Negative Emotion Overload where one becomes more powerful from sheer negative emotional turmoil
Mettaton’s neo body was meant to designed to kill however he failed because he wasn’t in negative emotional turmoil instead he was driven to protect his loved ones 
The neo body likely has incredible power since it’s abandoned with negative emotions from the lightener when their hopes has been dashed 
Spamton’s already in negative emotional turmoil so him in the neo body allows him to have great power to use 
It’s possible half of the reason that Jevil’s powerful is because he’s full of negative emotions after what happened to him that lead to his current state 
Noelle already has trauma from her sister disappearing in a tragic incident so she’s able to access NEO state from her emotional turmoil
And there’s how magic runs on tension points which is likely heightened emotions from the intensity in battle at the dark world
Thus it make sense for how she’s strong given how much emotional turmoil with trauma that she’s experiencing  
Jevil smiling at Noelle in devilsknife could be how he recognizes her potential as another one who can access the NEO state 
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spellboundspook · 1 year
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OK I had an idea for a snowgrave route involving K_K it's called Power Up (this is long just needed to get all my ideas for this au out there)
So to start the route you have to beat all the enemies with violence up until you fight Sweet Cap'n and K_K. You have to dance with K_K and only K_K and then buy the Mecha Saber from if you did I right you'll hear a ding
You fight Berdly as normal and Ralsei and Susie will leave you party as normal but after they leave a text box will appear saying
[For some reason you feel like you need to go back to the trash pit]
You can't go forward for here until you go back to the trash pit where you'll find K_K diging though the the trash she'll explain that she come here to find some cool stuff and got split from Cap'n and Sweet
K_K will then suggest to join your team cos kris friends have also split for them so you both can work together to find em so K_K will join you party
Their is then a Virovirokun in the next room kris and K_K fight it truly kicking off the run
I've always thought K_K would like the support/healer of the group who can't really deal good damage He has two moves Heal song and Power up
Heal song is just almond milk not much else to say
Power Up is a move that will will power up all ally moves depending on have much TP you have the more TP the stronger the move will be
You Truly start the route you need to use power up at max TP doing this will deal a lot of damage to the Virovirokun they won't run away and instead will turn red and then disintegration into dust
A text box will pop up with K_K looking horrified before they ask kris
"Kris did we just..."
The snowgrave ding will play you and K_K will can now progress forward
You keep progressing forward kill all the enemies with K_K powering up your moves noelle won't be in the room where you meet her though because you took a lot longer to get to her because you know
K_K will also sometimes just refuse to do what you ask the only thing they'll do all time without exception is using Power up or spareing
nothing happens story wise until you get to the Addison they'll talk about the Freeze ring but K_K will say that they don't really think they need a ring
When you walk away the Addison will ask
"You know you two may not want a ring but can Interest you in a brightlet?"
(The following interaction will then happen)
K_K: "a brightlet? Aww that sounds cool but I don't have that money?"
❤️:Get it :Let's go
K_K: "Oh your gonna get it for me? Thanks Kris how much is it?"
(Same as the freeze ring it is be one more D$ then you have)
K_K: "oh... we don't have the money sorry"
❤️:Get it :Let's go
K_K: "...get it? Kris we both don't have the money..."
❤️:Get it :never mind
K_K: "k-kris w..we don't have the money do you what me to steal it cause I will n-"
❤️:Get it :never mind
K_K: "K-kris... we can't just..."
❤️:Power up :never mind
K_K: "..."
(The screen will go black followed up by the sound of K_K using power up then a slash then the the turning to dust sound before they screen fade back)
(K_K: "did I just... do that... did I just help them... no no Kris must be doing this for a reason...)
K_K: "hey kris why are we doing this?"
❤:we need to get stronger to beat Queen :...
K_K: "...that... that makes sense ok let's go find somemore enemies..."
The snowgrave ding sound will then play
Their will be no music after the the conversion
K_K over world sprit will change from a happy smile to a more unsure smile this include all their battle sprits
The sprit they use for magic will also change from K_K throwing her hand in the air to silently praying
Now the Brightlet is an interesting item ìt ups K_K magic makeing so you need less TP to use Power up but it will also add the trance affect to K_K so they begin to question your judgement less but still have some control over their actions K_K will also auto equip the Brightlet and they will also no longer refuse to do what you say
The laser wall puzzle is the same kris stands on the first button and K_K will stand on the second one but K_K starts thinking to themselve after the puzzle
(K_K: "getting this bracelet was good right... its fine... we're just getting stronger...but why is it getting harder to think...why do I just wanna see kris... no no thats horrible")
:It's horrible ❤:it's natural
K_K: "huh I umm"
(K_K: "w...was I thinking out loud...)
The snowgrave cyber city music will start to play and until you get to spamton you won't get anymore dialogue
Spamton will tell you your kill count but when your done killing you can buy the Dazband from him for 1997D$
When you equip the Dazband to K_K their talk sprites overworld sprites and battle sprits will change their pupils go from the yellow colour they are to white and their expression will become more blank they also will do anything kris says without exception
Their will be no Berdly fight and you and K_K go through the snowgrave short cut to queen mansion their will no npcs and no susie and Ralsei
You defeat every enemy up to queen where she will be waiting for you she'll fight try and fight you but susie and Ralsei will show up tell up there some "dangerous freak" running around
Queen is just like why can't I fight them Ralsei explains why the fountain needs to be closed she like "oh didn't know that" but you make kris pull out their sword and they tell K_K to use Power up
K_K is just about to but Sweet and Cap'n show up panicked cos they where looking everywhere for her K_K at first is extremely confused as they don't remember anything after they equip the Dazband
Susie seeing how confused K_K is says
Susie: "kris told you to do something call power up? Don't know what that was about what have you two been doing"
K_K realising that they where just about to help kris kill queen and they can't even remember doing it they fall to their knees sobing cap'n and sweet immediately starts comforting K_K
Ralsei will say that now is probably a good time to seal the fountain
You can try and interact with K_K but the text will say
[he's just say "I'm sorry" over and over again now would be a good time to seal the fountain]
Like in snowgrave spamton is here and you have the boss fight with him the reason he got in cos queen was really distracted with the crisis going on
You call for everyone
Susie
Ralsei
Noelle
You then call K_K
The screen fades to black you hear the sound of power up being used a slash and then the sound of dust spreading
There are a few more differences like Sweet cap'n and K_K still have a shop in Castle town they still sell ya stuff but they all like a little down especially K_K
K_K also won't talk you can ask about K_K but they'll just tell you that K_K won't even tell them what happened
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ariadnesweb · 2 years
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imagine you're noelle and you're pretty sure you just killed your friend because your childhood partner told you to kill too many times and now you're sick it's cold you just committed an atrocity and you're lost in a city way too big for your mind to understand nothing makes sense you have power and strength here but you can only do anything when your childhood partner (Party Leader) tells you to do it and you should really listen to them because they know more than you they act like they've been here before it's not your place to tell them otherwise you're not strong enough to tell them otherwise but THEY JUST TOLD YOU TO KILL AND YOU KILLED
And then Queen finds you (she wants something from you that's what Kris your mom want) she tells you it'll all be alright you just have to listen to her - follow her into the dark (What's the dark? What's this place and it's rules and magic? Can it make sense of what you just did...?) And then you can finally rest easy
You don't say no because why would you? She leads you into her castle and it's bright like the city too colorful too busy no one knows what's going on the butler is stone there are blue eggs on the walls half the place is on fire (Queen doesn't notice - she's too busy worried about you - asking so many meaningless questions - what is december are you feeling alright is this room okay for you) - it wouldn't matter anyways the room is quiet and dark and it's the only place where berdly is fine and you are fine and kris is your friend and no one is going to tell you what to do.
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And then
...SUSIE appears? Inside your bedroom?
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...And she's... happy. Ish. Like the world isn't ending like you're not a murderer.
You kind of feel like laughing it's so ridiculous. Your crush is here telling you it's alright Queen won't hurt you anymore Susie is going to stop Queen from robotizing your face. It's true, you guess, Queen's not going to roboticize your face, that hasn't been a concern for a while now.
Susie doesn't think it's funny for some reason.
She asks if you're okay - you look sad apparently
Well - you're not okay,
you're lost you're confused Kris just told you to kill and that's what you did You feel like trash and you feel cold Why did you do that Why is Berdly... (Susie doesn't know... She can't find out like this.) where is everyone in this world it feels so lonely you can't understand it why are you even here...?
Susie is, as you expected, utterly lost for answers, because everything you just said made no sense, even to you, and you don't have the words to make it all make sense. Ha. It's not a good joke.
But she then sits down next to you, on the bed, and gives you a quick, one-sided hug, something that would make the Noelle from this morning blush, and starts explaining something
This is a Dark World - A world on the dark side of - A world made of night - A world made of dreams - a dream - This is a Dream. Where anything can happen, and crazy things come to life, and nothing that happens here is really real. Nothing here matters, nothing that hurt Noelle matters. Noelle just has to wait, because Susie and Kris and Ralsei will figure out how to stop this nightmare, so Noelle will wake up and go to school like normal.
And... That's a good idea. That this whole mess will end eventually, and Berdly will be alright, and Noelle will be alright, and Kris will be nice to Noelle again - like normal. That's good. Noelle would like to believe that this is just a crazy dream where nothing makes sense - separate from all the harshness of reality.
Noelle will be alright, she tells yourself.
Except Susie stands up and fear soaks through your body and then the dream ends and the nightmare returns So you stand up and grab Susie and the plead doesn't leave your mouth before she turns back to catch you from falling
You ask her to stay, for a second, because this is a dream and nothing will really move until you decide to wake up
And maybe this image of Susie, the cool tough girl, is enough for now.
You sit there. A bit awkwardly, perhaps, but with each other's warmth.
You talk. She talks. It's nice. She has a tail, short and stumpy. You have a sister, who loved sports, who maybe put a ball in the night sky as a sign of rebellion.
When you've run out of breath to talk and rest, Susie gently walks away from the room.
It's alright, for now. It's just a dream. It will get better - you hope. Berdly will be alright. Susie will ignore you like usual. Kris will... prank you? ...like normal? ...like they did when you were kids, except Kris hasn't done that in a while now, actually. They avoid you, usually. Stiffly walk away. Maybe they ask for help with a bit of homework now and then, but when they can, they're locked up in their room. It's nothing like the quiet companionship you both had when you were younger, Kris goofing around and you wishing the world ahead as the adults left you with your siblings.
Every time you talk now you get the feeling that Kris isn't acting like themselves. That they're acting for someone else's benefit.
It's weird.
Are they okay? Are they with anyone? Are they alone?
A cold feeling settles in your belly. They're probably not... okay.
You have to find them.
You leave the room, quickly and quietly, just as it was when you found, and start moving. You move forward, stepping past the thin walkways that weave Queen's inner sanctum, dodging the hanging lasers that loom over this place.
You barely find a space to breathe among the path when you hear it. Their words.
"Proceed."
You don't waste time questioning it - you don't think at all. Your hands are cold, your finger is still bleeding, they hold the ice magic like a storm holds a bolt, wild and dangerous and precise in their target, Kris already knows who to freeze, even if Noelle doesn't.
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The spell hit.
The world lies dark.
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chidoroki · 1 year
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Black Clover ch342
Ichika mentions their clan was made up of successful and powerful assassins so right away that makes the revelation we learned about Yami massacring them all a bit more believable, I guess? like I can only imagine everyone in said clan taking up some kind of training to become part of the kijin, especially if their tasked with protecting the Land of the Sun. Not entirely sure Yami was too fond of the idea, or at least not how his father viewed it.. or him in general.
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He certainly doesn’t give off the best first impression anyways. Hating on Ichika just because she’s a girl? And quite possibly blaming her for his wife’s death? That’s some Silva family type drama. No wonder Yami took Noelle into the Black Bulls. I also really want Ichika and Noelle to meetup somehow. They could bond; either get along real well, or not, and I dunno which scenario I’d wanna see more. But whatever, moving on; their father is a bastard for also trying to hurt them.
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Whether the guy is drunk or not, it’s still impressive Yami managed to hold him back as he’s only around 13 here. Their father clearly only cares about strength as well. Just imagine if he saw how powerful Ichika became today. Unfortunately for him, he won’t see that happen.. because death.
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Also unfortunate again because it seems Yami could care less about training to become stronger, seeing how he just decides to head out to fish moments later. A wild Qwilfish appeared. Nice to see despite all the family drama that there’s still something here Yami can find some kind of joy in.
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Of course the pleasant moment doesn’t last long. After chatting about dreams and how Ryu wants people in this country to live as equals, Ichika’s story takes the dark turn to the night of the massacre. Now I’m not too concerned with the father, since we saw how ruthless he was to his kids, but the whole clan? I’m with Asta on this by saying that really doesn’t sound like the Yami we know.
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Sure we might not know the whole story yet (maybe we’ll learn his side to it one day), but I believe there had to be something else involved that lead Yami to killing everyone. Now at the very beginning of the chapter, we get some background info, courtesy of Ichika, of the kijin, the province they guarded and this five-headed dragon. I’m gonna make a little theory.. and say that it’s due to the poisonous and dragon yoryoku soaked pufferfish Yami caught (and most likely ate) that caused him to to act out and retaliate against this clan. It seems silly, I know, because I’m sure everyone catches and eats fish from that sea, so why wouldn’t they be effected? Well the folks near Yami during his catch did say this kind of pufferfish was rare and maybe its poison mixed with the yoryoku it was swimming in made for some weird side effects upon our young man eating it, who I doubt even cared if he ate the poisonous part of the fish or not. I dunno okay. Perhaps they only gave us that dragon story because of the time/space distortion tidbit and that’s how Yami actually ended up in Clover. Who knows.
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Anyways, the kids are fighting and I’m still in the middle on this. Yes Ichika saw it firsthand, or at least the very end of it, but we, along with Asta, know Yami better than that. Hell, even the flashback we saw from Julius, William and whomever else about a younger Yami seemed innocent enough.
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Ichika then decides to say “fuck it, let’s actually fight” and pulls off a fairly impressive yojutsu. I also like how the scrolls have different designs on them just like the grimoires do. We didn’t really get a good look at the few scrolls we saw previously and even then they seemed a bit plain, so this is nice to see.
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I haven’t a clue on how well Asta will do up against this. Poor lad got destroyed  during their last fight and I don’t think much time has passed since then. Hopefully he trained well enough to not die at least. I’m rooting for you Asta!
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suspicious things
I have a question about many things that I get suspicious about in black clover ..??
1-In the entire série until now we don't know anything about asta's origin .ok we know his mum licita ,but really we don't even know where licita came from in the first place (her origin) . We didn't see her grimoir or her last name or anything about her and that make that more complicated
2- we saw in the chapter 328 the flashback of libee and licita when she told him about asta .that's normal but the sus thing is
"I will not see him again" why?? She can just watch him from afar like ciel did (yuno's mum) and we can see in the end of flashback that they were nearby the village hage so why she even see him?
3- licita said that she was so happy when asta was born healthy without any issue "" but asta actually has an issue "he was born without mana" so why she said that and she gave up on him beacaue of her curse .How she get that illness and when exactly ?
And asta don't have mana so he can live with her like libe does so that make think that her curse is not the real reason to give up on her son ...and she said that she will never see him again .. maybe because she knowed that she will die ...
4-licita gave up on asta the 4th October and she found libe in the same night ( nearly the morning of 5th october) is that just a qouincedence or there's something or person behind that .And how licita found the fifth leaves clover grimoir ?? Neither that libe and asta look like twins.
5- Allen fiairain . Zinon's childhood friend .I dnk why but I feel like his death story isn't like that .maybe that lucius illuse zinon that he's the one that killed Allen but that's not true" and I think also that Allen is not originally from the spade kingdom" . Even licita when she died or maybe nearly to death she holded the grimoir but how that grimoir get the tower . Did someone found licita and took the grimoir to the tower .. or maybe licita herself . Maybe she and Allen are related ( same family) and the have secrets and that knowed that asta should be the owner of that grimoir no matter what with libe inside of it.
6- the man of the tower is the only one that noticed since the beginning that asta actually has the fifth leaves so why he kept it secret .why he didn't tell him??or maybe he know something that no one should know about it
7- when yuno came from the spade kingdom to the churche (by ralf's dad's magic) asta wasn't there . And when licita left asta .yuno wasn't there. So how they ended up together in the same time ?? And from all the churches in 4 kingdomes and both ended up in the same church and the same kingdom,
8- I think asta is not from any of the 4 kingdomes because he's not originally from the clover kingdomes not from diamend .not from heart .And not from speed kingdom(as Allen he was talking the zinon about wars "in that kingdom" like he said and His behavior is suggestive that he is foreigner ). And like any fan else I want so bad to know asta's father and his original identitie .
9-sister Lily was and still a big sus for me . She only joined as nun in the age of 16 years old after few years after asta and yuno . Even she's the one that gave them the idea of being the wk in the future and she was so special that the elve assumed that she's not a normal person(a noble actually with a powerful mana ) and that did' t stop there she appeared in the color page many times like she's important in the séries from the start . And even she's the only one that get shosed to be a paladin (Not noelle or mimosa as royality with a great power or secre as a powerful noble ) so maybe she hide something too
Maybe she had connection with the man of the tower or ciel (they look like twins hh) .or even she knew their origins from the start and she had a mission to protect them (same as the man of the tower)And the both knew about licht's son and libe
10- that's the most thing that I got confused about:
*yami iskeid to clover kingdom
*William ran away from his family
And the both met Julius
*acier Silva got killed by mecigula
*Luis grinberriyal got killed by belthibub (ciel survived I don't know how)
*licita got killed by Lucifer
*asta and yuno ended up in the same place
*Julius became the wk
==all that happened at the same year!!!
==my opinion that astaroth is the one who played all this . Reviving two souls in one body .control one of them with his power (seeing the future and get answers ."lucius")and the other should be in a graet height statue that's why he ordered mecigula to kill acier ( the promoted to be the next wizard queen )
And because of the legend of the fifth leaves in clover kingdom. The true form of magic in heart kingdom and the creation of strong mages in diamond kingdom .they became in his plane .
11- asta's swords that originally belong to licht right ?that how that grimoir still 500 years to chose asta and get founded by licita also the swords and libe assumed that he's not the owner of the grimoir so it belongs to ata .So how a grimoir of devils chose a human ( the witch queen confirmed that our boy is 100%human) and that make me confused me more
12-Second thing if asta was born normal like any other person that maybe means that he has mana or other source of energie or power from his family?? That he was powerful since his birth (kiking the father he even make him bleed) and he didn't damage at all with stealing life force (mars and zagret as examples )or with soul changing (lucius ) either the abilitie of talking with souls (exp:patrie in episode 116)or seeing the memories (patrie and libe) or even sense people 's exixstance place (yuno in episode 17 . The girl and valtos . Also yuno in episode 115 . Luck in episode 104..). His great life force and strenght to inspiring people . He was able to use libe 's power without contract (the usual that anay person that want to use a devil power he should do a contract and he should be strong (noble)with powerful mana but asta used anti magic without a contract and without mana hhh like nacht said he 's different from all the other devil hostes . So that make me think that asta actually born with power that he awake it slowly through time without noticing and the greatest part of that power still inside him(not awaken yet) so the anti magic.
The ki and the next power up that he will get with ryuya are just sources that helps him to awake his true power someday .
13- in the last chapter 337 we saw that asta met yami's childhood friend or that what asta conclude .ryuya didn't say that they are childhood friends he said that he knew him but my theory that they are brothers if not they are cousins...
And that the dwarfs belong originally to the land of the sun with a great legend about them that's why there's dolls that look like charmy(100%charmy hhh)
14- charmy !!! I think that one of her parents from land of sun because she is hybrid of course and yami's family done something not acceptable so our yami protected his sister and got the lame of his clans death and run away but with lucius actions he ended up in the clover kingdom
15- the witch queen assumed that the reason why asta doesn't have magic or for real can't manifest his mana because of mutation in his genetics so that make me think that asta originally have mana but when he was in the womb and licita got cursed she didn't drain anything from asta because of the mutation in order to kept asta alive so yup my theory is that if an other mutation happened inside of him to fix the original one his mana will run into his body(mana was blocked from the start)again and here comes Sally rôle yup Sally! She was interested with asta' s genetics from the start and even she know something because she was upset when asta didn't came with nacht she was about to tell him something ....!!
16- acier Silva was told that she will die with the last birth(noell)because of noelle 's power she was so strong that make acier body in danger .. but she survived. That make me think that noelle is host of the sea god' s soul
17- asta is somehow related to the land of the sun why..?? Because all his life he was using ki without noticing and yami confermed that . He did the zetten from the first try . Ok we know that he got talent but bro.. this is huge that make me think that maybe asta's origin from this land (father) and his mum and Allen are from another kingdom that will shown up later maybe a kingdom that got destroyed and they are the only that survived so they lived between the four kingdoms ...and maybe asta will meet his mother( her soul in his mind or more memories (his original not libe's )) and have a talk ... about his power . His past . Origins... or maybe licita did something with her seal magic to asta that blocked his power to protect him
18- yuno father is alive !!!! Yea in the manga when Dante showed up that he killed the king that dead man was not loyce . So my theory is that loyce is alive but kidnapped buy them because of the real plan of lucius
19- the real plan of lucius ,, I think that creating new humans is just a little thing of his real plan that involve the grinberryals blood soul and magic (black sun . Bloody moon and stars falls on the wind )yea and he said that he will never let someone in his way again so originally he did that plan before but got runded by someone (maybe someone of asta's family)that's why he came to asta first because he knew somethings about him but he just said what he wants others to know . He want to kill him because of anti magic but nooo that's wrong or maybe he didn't know him but got suspecious+ anti magic =that boy should be dead hhh
Maybe asta's family (mother' s side or father's side or even both were team and their descendent licita and asta's father were so strong but due to the curse licita can't use her power ) are mages from thousend years and fight for the sake of the world that's why licita didn't want asta to suffer from their blood line or power and lend libe to him instead to live a normal life and lucius plan involve grinberryal. Silva. Vermellion . Lorobechika . diomand royal family . Charmy's family . Witch queen and Vanessa.finral and langris(possibility of belsibub ralation with vaud clan due to spacial magic) William and yummy's clan and maybe asta's family too(both sides) .and he will start with yuno family(the both family zogratis and grinberryal are related somehow because they look alike and maybe zinon . Vanica and Dante will be back but against their big brother because he is the one who make them devil hosts)
20- mimosa!! Maybe she had secrets about her mom and acier maybe she knew about acier 'death (by mecigula )and her power will be insane like attack spell and she will be the detraya host (that green spirit with flowers that helps the elves). And again I ship her with yuno I don't know why
And that's all sorry for that long . I hope that you agree with me and help me with your opinions .
Hiya! No worries about it being long I don’t mind 🥰, I’m going to try and answer these point by point and if any of my mutuals or followers have any ideas/clarification on anything I’ve missed please feel free to add to this 😁💕!
You have great theories and even if I don’t agree with a few of them or I don’t have much to say, I still appreciate and enjoy you sharing them with me 🥺💕🥰!
Please Note: I’m not really a theorist so most of these will have “I don’t know” or “We’ll find out later”, but I did my best to try and answer 😁😅. So my theorist mutuals may have better answers then me!
1. You’re right we didn’t see much on Lichita, and maybe with this Final Arc we’ll get some answers about Asta’s origin or Lichita’s. But tbh I don’t think her grimoire, last name, and where she came from are really relevant to the story and that’s why Tabs left it out 🤔, sure he could’ve added it to give her more “depth” but I think he either wanted to leave her as a “mysterious” character, or he just didn’t think it would add anything to BC.
2. I think there are many reasons why Lichita said that, one reason could be that if she watched Asta she would worry that he would somehow be in the raidus of her curse and would die, or another reason could be that if she *did* watch him and Asta happened to catch her he would either follow her or would come up to her and her curse would kill him, or simply it hurt her too much to watch him. Watching him grow up and be happy and playing, while it would make her happy, it would also hurt her too since she isn’t able to he apart of his life like she wanted.
3. I don’t believe Lichita knew that Asta was born without mana 🤔, from what I understand most children don’t show signs of magic until they reach a certain age. So Lichita probably didn’t know Asta was manaless, and just assumed her curse would kill him so that’s why she gave him up because she didn’t want to kill her own child. As far as where her curse came from, she could have been cursed by a devil (like Charlotte, Acier, and Lolo), or she could have been born with it like William.
4. I personally think it was just a coincidence that Lichita found Liebe the same day that she gave Asta up 😅. Because Liebe, if I remember right, was just walking aimlessly trying to get away from Lucifero and such. So I think it’s just a coincidence that he passed out there. As far as the five leaf grimoire, she could have either randomly found it, or she could have been led to it by Lucius or some other force. I’m sure Tabs will have an answer for it in the Final Arc, and if he doesn’t, then it’s either a plot hole or he didn’t have enough time to flesh it out.
5. I don’t think Lucius created an illusion to trick Zenon into thinking that he killed Allen personally, could he have? Sure. Do I think he did? No. I think Zenon just…did it 😅. As far as Allen being originally from Spade, I’m not too sure if he is or isn’t. Tabs could have easily just made Allen look and act like Asta in order to create a similarity between Zenon and Yuno, or he could have had more in mind and Lichita and Allen are related 🤷🏻‍♀️. I’m not too sure myself since it could go either way 🤔. When it comes to the grimoire it either could have “disappeared” for a time and then reappeared in the tower, or Lucius could have taken it and placed it there or hid it away. Again, I’m not too sure.
6. The man in the tower probably kept it a secret because he knew/thought it would be best for Asta to figure it out himself, so instead of just going ahead and telling him, he wanted Asta to figure it out all on his own.
7. The reason neither one showed up in the panels could have easily been an artistic thing instead of a “plot” thing, so I don’t think it’s very important 🤔. As far as the church goes, it could easily be a “coincidence”, “fate”, of Lucius manipulating things to go his way. But we won’t really know unless it’s explained in the Final Arc 😅.
8. I don’t have too many thoughts on if Asta, Lichita, and Allen are “foreigners” or not 😅. I mean, they could be, but whenever I hear “foreigner” I think of Yami and how he was treated by Clover. So while it’s possible they could be from a different kingdom that isn’t in the suits, I don’t know if they’d be considered “foreigners”. Hm, I used to want to know who Asta’s father was/is, but now I don’t really care 😂! Tabs will tell us who he is if he wants, or it’ll just remain a mystery forever lol!
9. Honestly I’ve just assumed Sister Lily is from a noble family which explains her grimoire, mana, and such 😅. As for why she became a nun that’s anyones guess, but since she seems to be important in this arc I think it’ll be explained by Tabs 😁! Ngl I honestly think the reason Sister Lily was chosen as a Paladin by Lucius was because of how important she is to Asta, yes she’s strong and her background is a mystery, but I think Lucius knew how much Sister Lily meant to Asta and that’s why he did it 😅. Hm, she could have been sent there to protect them by some unknown force, but it would most likely only be Lucius who would since (as far as I am aware) no one else knew Yuno and Asta were at the church.
10. Astaroth could have easily planned all of this out from the beginning, and we’ll most likely find out towards the end of the Final Arc. Lucius probably looked into the future and knew how important Yami and William would be and that’s why he went and had Julius meet them when he did.
11. Yes the swords belonged to Licht, at least as far as my memory goes. As for how they got inside the grimoire, Astaroth or someone else probably put them there if I had to guess 🤔. The grimoire probably chose Asta because he was “worthy” or, much like the grimoire, he is an “anomaly” since he’s the only person in the world who doesn’t have an ounce of mana, and as far as I know there is only one five leaf grimoire in the world, they’re both anomalys so they gravitated towards each other 😅🤷🏻‍♀️.
12. Hm, Asta could have a secret power, but I don’t think he does personally 🤔. Whil Asta is different then everyone else, I think if he had a “dormant” power that wouldn’t make him…well, him if that makes sense. I don’t really have very many thoughts on this tbh 😅.
13. I think it’s mostly assumed by everyone that Ryuya is Yami’s childhood friend, and that’s what I assume as well. I don’t think he’s Yami’s brother, since we saw Ichika is Yami’s sister, and I would think Ryuya would have told Asta that he was Yami’s brother 🤔. As far as the dwarves they could be from Hino, but then Tabs would have to explain how she got to clover or how her mother/father got to Clover from Hino 😅.
14. She could be, I don’t really have much thoughts on the dwarves 😅. But as far as Yami’s family and what happened I’m sure we’ll find out about them in the next couple of chapters 😁, but I think I stated my theory on Yami and his family a couple of weeks ago HERE.
15. Personally I think the “mutation” in his genes are either his anti-magic, his mothers genes that he inherited, or are maybe something similar to a devil’s genes? Like I said before I don’t have many ideas when it comes to Asta and his lineage 😅.
16. Noelle could be, but so far we haven’t really been introduced to any “gods” yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if they did exist in BC lore since we haves devils, elves, and dwarves. Or Noelle could be like Yuno and “blessed” by mana, although not as much 😅!
17. Again, I don’t have many ideas/thoughts/theories on Asta’s lineage 😔. Is all of this possible? Yes. Although personally I don’t think Asta’s lineage has anything to do with Hino (otherwise I think Yami would’ve said something 😅), but it very well could!
18. I have to kind of disagree on this one, because if Royce were alive I think he would have been shown by now, especially with the Dark Triad being gone now he would have no reason to hide and would have shown up with Ciel before the time skip, at least imo 😅. I could be 100% wrong tho!
19. Hm, that very well could be 🤔. I’m not too sure if Asta’s family was the one who “thwarted” Lucius’s plans before or not, because it easily could have been Julius who did that, or someone else we haven’t been introduced too yet. Whether they’re related to any of the characters or not is anyones guess, but I’m sure we’ll find out soon 😁!
20. I don’t think we’ve gotten any info on Mimosa’s parents, or actually any of the Vermillions parents so far (Tabs why 😭?), so there could easily be a secret there. As for her being the Host, again, she could be. How likely that would be I’m not to sure 😅, like I said anythings possible with the Vermillions 😁!
As far as shipping Mimosa with Yuno you’re more then welcome to do that 🥰! I don’t mind the ship personally but it isn’t one of my favorites, but if it becomes canon then I’ll totally be behind it and supportive!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts/theories with me 🥰! If anyone has anything to add feel free too!
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maxmayfieldirl · 2 years
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What deltarune song I think the St characters would be and why but they might only make sense to me
Will: Friendship
The song is just so warm and peaceful and sweet and it reminds me of a boy who fits that same description (Will).
Mike: Bluebird of Misfortune
Do I. Do I need to say it. Sounds like the spiraling decrease of his mental health throughout the seasons.
Lucas: Ferris Wheel
Maybe it's just me but this felt the most like Lucas. It's a cute catchy little tune but it holds a serious undertone to it.
Dustin: Lancer
He's just a silly little guy like Lancer!!! I cannot properly describe how much this song is just him. A funky tune for a funky guy. However I don't think this energy will carry to the next season like it has every other season due to...unforeseen events.
Max: VS Susie
This only makes sense if u take the scene VS Susie took place, during Susie's fight with Lancer. Susie is lashing out and hurts Lancer because she's hurting but she's doesn't want to hurt him so she feels guilty (It's a poor description I know). Which, yeah, sounds a lot like Max in s2 and s4. Actually the fight (Susie and Lancer) reminds me of her and Lucas in this season.
El: Originally I was gonna give her 'The Legend' but i realized that goes against El's character because she's not a legend or all powerful being, she's just a kid so I chose Lost Girl instead.
I mean it's true, she is really lost as she barely knows who she is as a person. Season 4 was her first real season being a normal girl and she had little to no guidance. Plus the song is very sorrowful yet peaceful and it reminds me of her
Erica: Rude Buster
I cannot form a proper why but like. Listen to it and tell me that's not her
Jonathan: Quiet Autumn
Very calming, much like his presence. I feel like this only makes sense to me bejbdjjjdk. Plus the name is fitting
Argyle: sans
He has sans energy in general tbh. Chill and jokes around but not stupid, ya know?
Robin: Girl Next Door
It matches her personality, upbeat with a hint of awkwardness. Funnily enough I believe it's one of Noelle's songs who also likes women-
Nancy: Darkness Falls
I actually don't know why I picked this. Something about how sad yet determined the song felt made me think of Nancy because that's what she is, isn't she?
Steve: April 2012
I don't know a god damned thing about Steve but this feels like him.
Eddie: Powers Combined
Truth be told I don't know much about Eddie other than his music taste and hatred towards popular things so I picked something I thought he'd personally listen to dhhdjdjjdkd
Joyce: You Can Always Come Home
It's a very comforting song, the song itself feels akin to the feeling of home. Joyce Byers has that feeling too.
Hopper: My Castle Town
I used to think of him as a man full of rage but now he's just a dad. Obviously he's more than that but i can't really describe it. None of the songs really fit him but this was the closest.
Murray: HEY EVERY!
I have no idea how to describe it okay. It's just him. Or Weird Birds because he's a weird bird
Vecna: Digital Roots
This is just the general vibes bc he's creepy, the song sounds creepy. It works
Henry: Dialtone
Yes I know he's vecna but they feel like separate entities almost. Dialtone isn't technically scary but it's still off putting, like Henry. Even before I figured out he was vecna he was extremely off putting and I knew something was up with him.
MF: THE HOLY
The name was honestly the main reason I chose it. Almighty otherworldly monster wanting to kill everyone on earth without a clear why can totally be described as 'the holy'
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✧.* { GAVIN LEATHERWOOD & HE/HIM & CIS MALE & 24/35 } is that ACE SALVATORE who’s come back from the future ? they’re DAMON AND ELENA’S kid, right ? i’ve heard they can be pretty SECRETIVE. how typical for a DRAGON. i guess they must rely on their CHARMING side shining through. rumor has it they’re trying to hide THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT BEING IN A WORLD WITH MALIVORE AND WONDERS IF THEY WERE BETTER OFF STAYING IN THE FUTURE, but that’s probably just noise…
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He is the child of Damon and Elena. They adopted him the year before they all ended up trapped in Mystic Falls when he was found by Jeremy. He didn’t have a name when he was found and so they named him Alaric Jay Salvatore but Ace just stuck as a kid. Though his older sister likes to call him AJ. They always knew he was a dragon and so told him that from a young age. Though he recalls burning half his room down when he was 9, so he would have worked it out on his own. He was 15 when Elena and Damon fell asleep and honestly it was the worst thing that happened to him. He really had no idea how to handle it.
The Grill was one of the only places in town that had food because his dad and his Aunt Bonnie had started working with the Young Ranch to make food for everyone. Something to help them all survive. Without his parents, it was left to him and his siblings to try and run it.
He was also dating Noelle Bennett since high school, till her death 5 years ago, when she was killed by a werewolf on the full moon. 
Now that he is in the past. He is scared of Malivore, terrified really. He would like to think he would be willing to sacrifice Hope to be free from Malivore, but he knows that isn’t true, since he has recently started dating her. After being trapped for so long, he is wondering if he will be able to control his urge to steal with all the new treasures around.  
More to be plotted. please hit me up for plots as i’m not on the discord
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nodutra19 · 2 years
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Speculating On Deltarune A Bit
I just watched Keyan Carlile's video on old Gravity Falls theories, and it got me to make this post which I've been meaning to do for a hot minute. This is just gonna be an obsessive's ramblings based off other stories he likes.
KRIS AND RALSEI
Noelle already speculates that Ralsei looks somewhat like Asriel, although chances are Toby is gonna twist our balls on this one since she never outright says who Ralsei resembles which would make this a great red herring. Now that I think about it, if Susie has been in Hometown for a while and didn't move in recently, the fact she says nothing about Ralsei's appearance might mean Asriel looks different. Or maybe she is a recent resident and simply didn't know Asriel when he was younger since she still hints that Ralsei bares a resemblance to Toriel. Could go either way.
That aside, let's get to what I wanted to say: Since Kris and Asriel are siblings and were more than likely raised together, and if Ralsei does resemble Asriel, maybe the reason why Kris is so averse to the Ralsei tea and in general seems to get uncomfortable around Ralsei is because he resembles their sibling. I mean seriously, imagine if you found a fucking spitting image of your sibling in a different world when your actual brother is off somewhere else, and this doppleganger looks younger (let's presume Asriel appears older just like Kris does than Frisk and Chara), and some entity you can't comprehend keeps putting you two together like a child does their Ken and Barbie dolls. Of course you'd be repulsed! I don't think I've seen a lot of people reflect on that. JaruJaru somewhat does it with his befuddling (if intriguing) theory of how Ralsei came to be, but he does it on a "What if Kris accidentally killed Asriel and his dust was left in a spot for the Dark World?," but really think about it: some force beyond you seems adamant in putting you in fluffily romantic situations with someone who heavily resembles your brother, don't matter if y'all're related by blood or not. This idea came to me as a joke tweet but then I actually thought about it and I suddenly got new dimensions. I doubt this is wjat Toby Fox is playing at but still. After all, Kris seems very attached to Asriel. On that note...
2. KRIS AND ASRIEL
This is way more on the fanfic/what if scale of things, but what if Asriel isn't the best brother? I revisited an old manga I shall not name, but essentially the protagonist loved his big brother and saw him as an angel, almost a God. But once he looks into his brother, he finds out over time that he wasn't the best person. Unlike Asriel, this big brother was unkind and aloof, often antagonistic to others and repulsed by them, "loving" only his little brother. Maybe Asriel didn't mistreat Kris, but I doubt Toby Fox will give us an angel, and more than likely I feel Asriel might know more than the average person.
There's a lot of mystery surrounding his bond with Kris, so it can go in any direction. We got the pure Asriel in Undertale through flashbacks of him as a child, but we all saw how co-dependent he was as an adult(?), and how corrupt he became as Flowey.
I originally had way more to say but this is all that actually came out as words. Everything else whittled away to nothingness. I got no damn idea how the Command Route is gonna play with all these either.
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All the questions for Helia
Here we are, the last of the "answering all questions in one go" oc asks!
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1. What inspired you to create your oc?
"Magic is everything." That line seems to rule the world that Black Clover takes place in. So I thought "what if there was one place where people didn't use magic?" From there, I decided to make a character who grew up in an environment despite having strong magic and it had a negative side effect on their magic development.
2. Why does your oc look the way they do? What are your reasons for their appearance?
First off, I just wanted to create a character who was outright pretty. You look at her and go "she's the pretty one in the friend group." Out of all my ocs (Black Clover or otherwise), Helia is and forever will be the prettiest of them (only rivaled by her own twin brother).
I gave Helia her blond hair because she is named for the sun and has a bright personality. She's got green eyes for her connection to nature as well as to put a darker color to contrast her bright hair. And speaking of darker color, I really wanted Helia to be a darker-skinned, "sun-kissed" character to set her apart from most of the rest of Black Clover's cast.
Her features give her a good contrast with her love interest, Nozel. His silver hair against her golden hair. He's fair-skinned while she's darker skinned. His eye color is a pale shade of purple while hers is a deep, dark green. However, it wasn't intentional. The contrast I accidentally created was one of the reasons I began shipping them actually.
3. What is the origin of the character’s name?
Helia's name comes from Helios, the Greek god and personification of the sun. I took off the "s" and turned "o" to "a" to make it a feminine name.
4. Why did you give them the name they have? What is the in-universe reason for their name?
Like I said in the post about Selen, I wanted to inverse the male-sun, female-moon dynamic, thus the female twin is named for the sun.
And as I said before, in-universe, Estrelle gave her twin children names based on the sun and moon to match her own star-related name.
5. What kind of abilities and power level does your oc have? Why did you give them their powers? What’s the in-universe reason?
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Helia's magic attribute is Flora Magic, plants with some seasonal themes thrown in to slightly differentiate it from regular Plant Magic. Like Selen, Helia's mana level is at the same place as Nozel's.
I gave Helia Flora Magic because I wanted to create a magic that would be pretty to look at and could easily be given a fae theming since I was just vibing with fae aesthetics at the time.
And as I said with Selen, twins having complementary magic attributes has been seen twice and I decided to roll with it like a trend. And her mana amount has the same factors as Selen: exposure to the mana in a strong magic region while in the womb, being born to a noble family, and keeping some of the mana from her elf possession.
6. What are the weaknesses in their power? Why did you give them their weaknesses? What’s the in-universe reason?
Early on, Helia's biggest weakness is her lack of control, specifically over how much mana she expends at a single time. Before buckling down and seriously training with the Black Bulls, Helia tended to just throw out all her magic and spend all her mana on one spell. Pretty bad. Other major weaknesses of hers are metal or poison based magic attributes.
Like I said earlier, I wanted to explore the idea of strong magic being stunted. We have an example of what it would look like in canon through Noelle but that's about her aim. So I decided to make Helia's issue regulating how much energy she uses. She gets a handle on it little by little, slowly learning how to divide up her mana until she can instinctively control her output. And well, the elemental weaknesses just make sense as poisons kill plants and metals are more resistant to bring broken down by plants than earth or stone.
Within the story, Helia's poor mana control stems from living in Tillespire which disallows the use of magic. She was there from age six to nineteen so she's long out of practice by the time she reaches the mainland. Not only that, but she doesn't get her grimoire right away. Selen happened to figure out which grimoire in a grimoire tower was hers and just took it with him thinking he'd give it to her eventually. Helia would find her grimoire in the depths of the Drehinde Jungle (before Asta and Noelle's joining) and that's when her training began in earnest.
7. Does your oc have any notable skills or good personality traits? Why did you give them those traits? Why do they exist in-universe?
Helia's greatest strengths are her optimism and friendliness. Helia's much like Asta in that she doesn't give into pessimism easily, she always wants to hope for better things. And she's friendly enough to try reaching out to anyone she meets. Skill-wise, she's talented with a lyre, dances, and can ride on horseback.
Honestly, I think making Helia an optimistic person was a subconscious choice because my "main oc" for my other fandoms have sad outlooks on their lives and are bad with people. Thus, Helia is positive and sociable. Her skills are what they are because, well, I wanted to give Helia elegant but still freeing talents. Helia can walk or even do simple dances while holding a lyre and I can't get the image of Helia riding fast with the wind in her hair out of my head.
The reasons in-universe for Helia's skills are that she learned the lyre from her father, picked up folk dances and a bit of the waltz at festivals on Tillespire, and riding horses was the fastest way to get around since there were no brooms on the island. One of Helia's spells even creates a horse-like steed to ride, showing her preference for land travel instead of flight. The reason for her positive outlook on life is because she wanted to
8. Does your oc have any notable flaws or activities they’re not good at? Why did you give them those flaws? Why do they exist in-universe?
Her big mouth tends to hurt her in social or more personal, delicate situations, and related, she can't keep secrets. She also tends to be too openly trusting towards other people. Activities she's bad at include cooking, arguing, drawing, and cleaning.
If I was going make Helia a friendly chatterbox, I needed that to be a weakness of some kind, thus she's overly trusting, can talk in the wrong situations, or blab without meaning to. And I decided to make her bad at some domestic chores because I already have plenty of ocs who are good at that, she's already got artistic skills with her instrument and dancing so I decided to make her a bad artist to balance. And I say arguing in the sense of coming up with logical reason and countering other people's arguments.
Despite growing up with a commoner lifestyle, Helia never really got the lessons drilled into her head. Plus she's a little lazy. She can't season food well to save her life and she tends to just throw things around her room instead of organizing. Being as emotionally driven as she is, Helia's bad at coming up arguments or counter-arguments. And Helia probably never picked up drawing because she was busy learning the lyre. As for her blabbermouth, she's so open with herself that she might subconsciously think that everyone ought to be that open which is why secrets are hard to keep. And I'd say her issue of trusting everyone is perhaps her overcompensating for Selen's lack of trust in people. She'd like to believe that most people are good so even if she gets betrayed one... two... twenty times, most people are decent. Right?
9. In a group dynamic, what kind of role does the oc usually fill? Are they a worry wart? A troublemaker? The straight man?
Helia is the kind of team member who keeps morale high even in tough situations. She knows the people around her are strong and won't let them forget that. She'd be the one to tell Noelle to keep working on her aim because she can and will get it eventually. She'd tell Grey that her face is super cute and she's very kind so there's nothing to be shy about. Helia is there to remind Finral that he's going to be the kind of man who can take care of Finesse. In a way, she's the Black Bulls' cheerleader.
She's also a big sister, though she plays the role differently from Vanessa. While Vanessa tends to be more laid back and teasing, Helia is doting to the point of being overwhelming. She's also the kind of sister who takes you out to her favorite hang out spots, like arcades or coffee shops because she'd love for her family to see a part of her world and potentially enjoy it too.
10. What is your favorite trait regarding your oc?
Helia may be a ditz but she's not totally unaware. I like that she pays enough attention to people to pick up their feelings or the tensions between them (all except Nozel's romantic attraction to her, darn it). She'd realize that Luck and Magna are friends before either of them have their own epiphanies, she recognizes how there's this unspoken want to be close from Noelle and Nozel, and appreciate Gordon's friendliness when it isn't apparent to others. But just because she can read a room doesn't mean she knows how to interact with it properly.
11. What is your least favorite trait regarding your oc?
The fact that Helia is more reactive than active as a character. I dunno, I just have a hard time imagining her having that much initiative outside of a romantic context. I know heroes in fiction are usually reactive to the actions of the enemy, but even in personal matters, I don't have Helia act of her own volition. I don't know what else to say really.
12. Which canon characters (if any) do the oc have good relationships with? Why those characters?
Finral. These two are bi disasters who platonically flirt with each other and support each other's romantic endeavors. They'd have a light-hearted dynamic, hyping each other up in the day-to-day or on missions.
Noelle. They're like sisters. They bond over trying to master their magic control. And while Noelle struggles with being upfront about her feelings, Helia is unabashed about sharing hers. That alone would be fun dynamic.
Kirsch. He would find Helia's magic very beautiful and Helia would admire Kirsch's skillfulness on the battlefield. Perhaps his biggest complaint is how she lets herself get dirty so easily.
13. Which canon characters (if any) do the oc have bad relationships with? Why those characters?
Luck. It's not that either really dislike each other but they just don't synchronize. Both are energetic but Helia uses her energy to chat people up and party while Luck's energy goes into fighting. There's no ill-will, simply a lack of synergy.
Charlotte. It's the unstoppable force of Helia's shipping heart versus the immovable object of Charlotte's inability to confess that creates conflict between the women.
Nacht. It's mostly Nacht who doesn't like Helia but she also wouldn't have a high opinion of him after enough time. She's far too optimistic and energetic for him, and he's a downer more often than not which would grate on Helia.
William. Helia enemy number one. When she heard rumors about why William covers his face, her response was "well an ugly face is preferable to an ugly personality." Not the best way to put it but William would've appreciated the notion. And so William tried his hand at romancing Helia to have a sunshine woman in his life. However, come the day when Patry puts his reincarnation plans into motion, he has William invite Helia to the Golden Dawn base for a date, only for William to be a no show. Helia doesn't get much time to be mad though as the elf Leahn reincarnates into her body. When Helia finds out William had tricked her using romance, she's beyond enraged.
Patry. Due to his involvement in taking Selen away and the date ruse, Patry also ends up disliked by Helia. But not as severely since she never had a good rapport with him the way she did with William.
14. Did you give your oc a love interest? Is it another oc or a canon character? Why?
Helia's endgame is Nozel. I mentioned earlier that their physical contrast is one reason why I began shipping them but also for their personality differences. Nozel is disciplined while Helia is largely unrestrained. She's warm and wears her heart on her sleeve. He's cold and closely guards his feelings. Flora Magic is all about nature while a metal-based attribute like Mercury Magic is a departure from nature. There's a lot about each other that contrast and thus they balance one another out.
15. How does your oc interact with the canon narrative? What about it do they change?
Helia's biggest contribution to the plot is kind of speeding along Noelle and Nozel's reconciliation.
Prior to canon events, Helia would send Nozel letters complimenting him for his accomplishments and generally reaching out in a friendly/flirty way. For the longest time, Nozel never answers. The letters shift tone when Noelle joins the Bulls and Helia promises to keep Nozel updated on what Noelle does. That's when a genuine correspondence happens. Through the letters, Nozel learns about Noelle's efforts and struggles. He begins to regret not being the one to help Noelle grow. And Helia outright says to Nozel in one letter, "It's obvious to me that you care. Why not make it obvious to Noelle, too?" This would definitely be after the capital attack since Nozel can't have an epiphany before then.
With Noelle, Helia acts like the big sister Noelle didn't really get to have back at House Silva. Noelle gets a little jealous seeing Helia and Selen make up so easily which Helia does notice and they talk it out. Helia doesn't say to forgive her siblings right away but suggests that Noelle look for understanding at least. It's that conversation and Helia's support that does help Noelle find to resolve to save their siblings for the sake of family, because she finally understands that they too can be scared and helpless.
Helia also assists in Noelle's romantic endeavors with Asta. She'd make sure they sit together during meals, point out Noelle's amazing qualities to Asta, and generally nudge them together!
16. What aspect(s) of the universe’s lore are they connected to? Do they change/add lore to the universe?
As I said with Selen, the biggest world lore change brought along by Helia's presence is the existence of Tillespire. It's a place that doesn't use magic due to generations of control and propaganda on the peasants and commoners who live there.
17. List/describe up to five tropes that apply to your oc. They could be related to the oc’s characterization or their narrative arc.
-Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold: Helia has bright blond hair is a sweetheart 99% of the time. -Florence Nightingale Effect: something about seeing Helia heal or being healed by her gets Nozel's heart beating faster. -Green Thumb: her magic is plant-based so of course Helia fits this trope. -She Cleans up Nicely: Helia has no qualms with getting leaves in her hair or walking through mud but her looks when she goes all out to dress is leagues apart from her day-to-day appearance.
18. Imagine meeting your oc. What would you want to say to them or do with them?
Helia is a strong extrovert while I am firmly an introvert. She would be the one dragging me around to socialize and chatting my ear off. I'd probably be exhausted within an hour since I have zero socializing stamina. I'd probably manage to tell her how I admire her optimism. I try to be but sometimes I can get down on myself so the fact that she keeps it up so easily is cool to me.
19. How might your oc react to finding out you are the one responsible for their life?
"Why would you do that to me? To my family?" Helia would be shocked for sure and a little offended. But since I didn't trick her and don't make light of romance, I wouldn't earn her full rage. She'd get pretty moody about it, unsure how to really feel about someone who created her but also gave her a difficult life to overcome. She'd look on the bright side, because at least she has her family by birth and among the Bulls.
20. Share a random piece of trivia about the creation of your oc. Examples: scrapped ideas or changes you didn’t expect to make.
Not Helia specifically but related to her backstory: I initially had the idea of creating an arc set in Tillespire which would involve the Bulls preventing the authorities over Tillespire from kidnapping Asta to abuse the powers of anti-magic.
Also, I might've originally played with the idea of there being fairies, full-blooded fey, on the island of Tillespire which would explain some of Helia's fey-themed spells.
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*Flowey at first seems really into it, taking ideas for the future from noelle. It's amazing how she can come up with so many threatening torture plans! However.... after the minute mark passes double digits, he begins to tune it out, just waiting for noelle to finish. He's not very patient. By the time she finishes her threat, Flowey is practically dozing off, bored beyond belief. When she asks him how it was, he snaps out of it and stammers to give a response.*What- oh- ah, yeah! You have a lot of good ideas. Maybe you could write down just the best ones for me? I might use them later on.
So Merg, what do you think? You really want to deal with miss angel of death here? Or are you going to run away guivering in fear like Clover and Arak?
(Merg was sleeping but then) "Oh, we were talking? I thought that we were just being rude little reindeer. Anyway no. Well not in the way you might expect anyway, all those people who fled were alive in the game. Sure, if you kill my character I can only play Undertale/Deltarune games and not explore the multiverse but I don't give a shit."
(Kara) "Let's kill each other then? How is it fair?"
(Merg) "How's it fair? How about you stop being a god damn hypocritic psychopath. Look around and look at me. What do you see? You think you would rather do this than that well actions speak louder than words. You've killed a lot of people, didn't you?"
(Kara) "People change, idiot."
(Merg) "Or do they just get what they want? *Laughs* You think that you would've been a good person if Flowey wasn't your best friend if you weren't also friends with Layer, and if Noelle wasn't still alive. Look at yourself, you are not becoming good out of the goodness of your heart. *Kara gets more and more mad with every word* You do it because you know you just want to be LOVED."
*Kara pins Merg down and starts to try and torture Merg by putting salt in their eyes.*
(Merg) "I don't care. YOU CAN'T KILL ME!!!"
(Layer) "Oh look you are, anyway I've figured out how to make good ice cream."
*Everyone looks at Layer confused and just weirded out*
(Layer) "Bad time I'll come back later."
(Merg) "*Runs away while everyone's distracted* I'm not running forever I'll be back. I swear to Asgore I'll be back."
(Layer) "Sorry."
(Noelle) "It's fine, we'll try your new ice cream. *Layer gives everyone ice cream.*"
(Layer) "I've got to go now bye. *Leaves and follows Merg* Alright I've made them distracted now let's talk. I want there to be complete control over everyone's soul."
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