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leresq · 6 months
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Five Nights at Freddy's (2023, dir. Emma Tammi)
Scream (1996, dir. Wes Craven)
Matthew Lillard
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glitterfish1272 · 6 months
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Listen, I don't like to involve myself with drama, nor do I like to defend people that donate money to horrible people. But seeing people compare Scott Cawthon to JK Rowling and saying they're the same kind of person is just INSANE???? Let me get this straight: Scott Cawthon is not a transphobe. He does not dislike transgender people. He does not dislike gay people. He himself has said that he loves all his fans no matter what identity and sexuality they may have. JK Rowling HATES trans people. She goes on social media to spread hate. She puts transphobic content in her books. She actively wants other people to BECOME transphobic people. Scott Cawthon? He's just a dumbass. I'm not going to sit here and tell you he's a saint, because he's not. He did something very harmful, but he didn't do it TO be harmful. He said it himself that he donated to the people he did for reasons totally unrelated to their views on queer people. He is a good person at heart, he just doesn't realize the things he does with his money have much greater consequences for those that aren't what he is - a white christian republican male living in Texas. Speaking of which - I know all of those things combined typically scream "THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS NO CHILD OF MINE WOULD EVER BE ONE OF THEM QUEERS" but he is NOT one of those people!! Those types of people would never intentionally include non-binary people in their products, let alone SEVERAL of them, and completely intentionally. Mangle, Funtime Foxy (and therefore also Lolbit), and Spring Bonnie are all very intentionally and canonically non-binary characters in his games. Mangle and Funtime Foxy go by both She and He pronouns, and Spring Bonnie's loading screen caption in FNAF World says "Male? Female? It's a rabbit, who cares." A piece of scum "I have no pronouns" republican would never willingly include something like this. Not only that, there is a canon wlw relationship in one of the Fazbear's Frights books. It's very minor and unimportant, but if he actively hated gay people, he would not include a gay relationship in something he is directly writing. At the end of the day, you have every right to dislike Scott Cawthon for the things he has done. You don't have to give him a cent of your money if you don't want to, and you're free to enjoy the things he creates without supporting his views. You are not a bad person for liking FNAF. But comparing Scott Cawthon to JK Rowling is absolutely absurd. They are NOWHERE near the same level of evil. He's just dumb and rich.
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i do think analyzing bad art is harder than analyzing good art and i do think its my duty to do it
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ozymoron · 5 months
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yknow if i were a video essayist i feel like it would be a fun and interesting idea to explore the fnaf fandoms reaction to the whole scott cawthon is (from what i remember) pro-life and donates to conservative political guys (idk what the word is) thing because like i never really see it being brought up anymore besides the odd post about it and its the main reason why i dont engage with fnaf anymore but i know nothing about shit on how to make a video essay so
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bixels · 6 months
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Always an experience watching the leftism leave FNAF fans when someone mentions that Scott Cawthon financially backed fascist politicians.
The switch from posting hardline leftist tweets about boycotts and signal boosts and critical takedowns of politicians and celebrities to ‘ohhh, well. everyone makes mistakes. who can blame him, listen he. he donated money to gay charities too. that makes it ok! a millionaire in his forties is allowed to have political beliefs. does it even matter? just let it go!’ is whiplash inducing. The antivaxxer celebrities have got to go, but this one horror dev who quietly handed wads of cash to antivax lawmakers? He’s chill, he can stay.
The charity thing is so funny too because suddenly utilitarian positive-negative point counting is the way to go. Maybe an abacus would help calculate the net good of donating to the Trevor Project minus donating thousands of dollars to Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. -10 points if I push a kid in a lake but +11 points if I help an old lady across the street, so I’m chill. You can’t judge me. Hey, maybe. Just don’t push a kid in the lake period. How fucking low is the bar when we’re excusing maxing out the possible dollar amount of donations to Mitch fucking McConnell. That should be like. Default you’re a bad person.
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springtrappd · 13 days
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the fnaf movie cast & crew on matthew lillard's performance:
OFFICIAL CHARACTER DESCRIPTION FOR STEVE RAGLAN:
A smug career counselor charged with helping Mike find a job, Steve Raglan has zero sympathy for the burdens of the unemployed. Played by horror legend Matthew Lillard, star of the original Scream, Steve seems to take a perverse pleasure in forcing a desperate person, like Mike, into a situation that’s less than ideal. It’s Steve who suggests the night guard job at Freddy’s to Mike, and who then bides his time, like a spider, until Mike reluctantly agrees to take it.
TAMMI & SCOTT IN ‘UNIVERSAL PICTURES PUBLICITY: FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY’S PRODUCTION INFORMATION APPROVED’:
“Matthew Lillard was terrific,” game creator and film producer Scott Cawthon says. “There was a long list of people we were looking at for this role. I was leaning toward Lillard early-on because I had great memories of seeing Scream in the theaters like twenty times with my roommates in college, but when a close friend of mine told me what a great guy he was in real life and how he took such good care of his fans at conventions, I knew he was the right person for the job. I told Matthew on the phone during our very first conversation that after the movie comes out, no one will even be able to imagine anyone else for the role, and I stand by that.” Landing the actor was a coup, says director Emma Tammi. “Getting Matthew on board was just incredible,” Tammi says. “He brought so much zaniness and electricity into the mix, and he had such attention to what Five Nights fans would want to see.”
'MATTHEW LILLARD ON "HUMBLING AND EXCITING" FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S' SUCCESS AND CREATING AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCES FOR FANS' (in The Hollywood Reporter):
CULLINS: For people who are not familiar with the game, how would you describe your character? LILLARD: I play a character that is living in plain sight in the world, and he is a horrible monster. Toward the end of the film, when my daughter can’t handle a situation, I have to step in and take over. I do not accomplish that goal and end up meeting my demise. It’s the first step in a journey that has this rich canon that spans multiple video games. I play a monster who, at the end of the day, gets his comeuppance and is thrown into this horror realm that he created. The hard part about playing this part is the pressure I put on myself to honor the fans, to deliver a great performance in an iconic role. There are millions of kids worldwide, and people that started playing as kids and are now adults, that have an expectation that this film will deliver on a really great level. So, being this iconic bad guy, the amount of pressure I put on myself to not suck is pretty extraordinary. That’s the hardest part.
TAMMI IN 'FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S FILMMAKER EMMA TAMMI TALKS THE "LOOSE ENDS" TO TACKLE IN A SEQUEL' (for The Hollywood Reporter):
DAVIDS: Before and after the reveal, I did catch some Stu Macher/Scream vibes from Matthew. I recognized that familiar live wire that he plays so well. Did you encourage that? Or did he just know instinctively that this guy warranted a bit of the same crazed energy that Stu had? TAMMI: Gosh, it feels like catching lightning in a bottle with Matthew because he just brings so much to the set and in the moment. And on that day in particular, we were just trying a bunch of different things for a bunch of different takes, and he was really coming alive in that [Yellow Rabbit] suit for the first time. Of course, we’d done some rehearsals with that suit, but it was a whole other deal once the camera was actually rolling in the properly lit pizzeria. So he was just going for it on every take and doing something different and really exploring in the moment. We just needed to make sure that we were there to capture it all. So, yes, there was definitely a back and forth between the two of us in terms of trying different things and really maximizing his menacing movement in that suit. But at the end of the day, he was just bringing all of his brilliance and improvisation to the table, and we were so lucky to be rolling on it.
LILLARD IN 'FNAF: FROM GAME TO BIG SCREEN' (DVD Bonus Content, via YouTube):
I've been really jonesing, like really coveting an opportunity to get a chance to get back into the horror genre. Getting a chance to work with Emma has been lovely. I literally, when I'm in that costume I'm blind, and so I rely on her like very few performances I've ever had in my life, to help me... sorta craft this character on the fly, physically in how we're telling the story and where we're at in the lore, and how that applies to-- y'know, all of the information that's out there and available, it all comes through her [Emma Tammi] and she fills us with what we need.
BONUS: the official guidelines for Raglan's facial hair, courtesy of Makeup Department Head Ashley Levy (via Instagram); "Also included: proof we take our facial hair design *very* seriously around here."
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chaifootsteps · 4 months
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If anybody her ever worries about Vivziepop's fame, thinking she is really popular and seen as a "savior of indie animation", dont worry, she is less popular and loved than you think she is.
The amount of people who admires her is actually really small compared to what is the entire internet, she is not even close to being an internet celebrity. Her millions of suscribers means NOTHING, most of it are casual watchers who only watch the Helluva episodes and then forget about Vivzie's existence until the next episode drops, thats why the Helluva episodes are the most watched of her videos and everything else is ignored.
Also her fame outside of the internet is pretty much non existant. If you ask the average person who isnt a 14yo who spends all their day on Deviantart about Vivziepop, they will not go "OMG Vivziepop!?!?! The super famous animator who will save indie shows?!?! Yeah i LOVE her!", they will go "who...? Thats a really dumb name haha".
I dont think Hazbin Hotel will change that, that shows looks simply bad for outsiders, anyone who didnt already know about Vivziepop will avoid this show and make fun of it. She will NOT get any more positive fame from this.
Also, even on the internet she is REALLY disliked anywhere that isnt her little fanbase.
For example, she is extremely disliked in basically all of the hispanic/spanish speaking part of the internet; every time i see someone who speaks spanish talk about her, is to make fun of her writing, her character designs, and her childish actitude, she is barely praised.
Pretty sure the "Vivziepop is super talented and she will save indie animation!" Vision is exclusively from her english speaking fanbase, because i NEVER saw that from spanish speaking people, she is low-key a lolcow for us since the Scott Cawthon incident. Im conviced that she is also disliked on communities that dont speak english too, is only them who loves her.
So dont be negative, my dear friends, Vivziepop is not as famous as she thinks. If she was more know, she wouldnt be more loved, she would be more disliked because her small group of stans are the only ones who tolerate her Transphobic, rich, childish and incapable to accept criticism actitude.
Always important to keep in mind. Sometimes it can be hard to forget just how small of a fish Vivzie is, your mind starts running wild, but more clever shows than hers have crashed and burned.
More than that, she made working with her a nightmare. This industry can forgive mediocrity, but being difficult? Not so much.
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charmanderxerneas · 6 months
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can people get it thru their heads that you can like fnaf while hating scott cawthon? Imo its not fucking immoral to like fnaf like it is with harry potter or some shit
Like. Yes scott is a republican who gets money from fnaf, thats not good that money is going to republican candidates
but first of all like. theres no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism (as much as i hate it: i assume at least some of my money is going to republicans from buying at certain stores or restaurants or something). You cannot exist without at least SOME of your money going towards that, it sucks.
and he at least claims to love all his fans regardless of gender or race or sexuality (does not excuse his donations or mean hes a good person) but at least its better than like. jkr who has antisemitic and racism BAKED into her series lore and who actively spouts anti trans hatespeech. if you play fnaf at freddys its not like. shoving republican ideas down your throat. and hes letting steel wool and just other people in general the series now, stepping down from it (though of course hes still behind the scenes, his story so his lore goes).
i just. ugh you can like something flawed with a flawed creator 😭 its okay. its not as bad as something awful like harry potter and theres usually Some flaw behind every creator yknow? all that said i dont like scott. dont get me wrong, im not defending him. i Dont Like Scott. but grahhh makes me mad that i cant enjoy fnaf in peace without people crying at me about it
(i am trans dont fucking come at me about that shit. i just needed to rant)
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lifeintheworldtocome · 4 months
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why did everyone just forget that scott cawthon is like actively a weird guy at best and a bad person at worst. hello????
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Hey, I'm new to anything with Vivziepop (saw the Hazbin promo for prime and got interested) and I'm seeing a lot of bad things written about her. You seem to talk about this stuff. Is she anything to be concerned with?
Hey! Welcome to the fandom ^w^!
As for Vivzie, I'm not gonna dare say that you can't be wary of her. A lot of the rumors about her are very scathing and I would be more shocked if there weren't skeptical people. That being said, a lot of the rumors have long since been debunked. Here's a good list showing a lot of the rumors holding little weight or are just a decade old. The stuff surrounding Vivzie ultimately is misinformation, debunked rumors/claims, and/or guilt by association.
For example, there was a time when Vivzie said she hated cancel culture, especially how it was being thrown at Scott Cawthon. She just said that he needs to hold himself accountable. But, ofc, antis somehow made it seem like she was for cancel culture and made it even worse by saying she was why Scott quit FNAF. Which, I don't even think was true, but if it was, it doesn't matter anymore. Scott made the FNAF movie. So, if anyone is pushing said rhetoric, it has to be out of pettiness or they're misinformed.
Granted, not all critical or anti-blogs are like this. After all, they are human. A lot of them aren't aware that what they're saying is untrue and are more than willing to listen. Unfortunately, some are very annoying, willfully ignorant, and/or only believe their own words. It's best to either block or filter them out. As a person who has spoken kindly or matched their tone, it's just easier that way, unfortunately. Hatred is, arguably, more contagious than happiness. Cheesy, I know.
Plus, there are those that are genuinely giving criticism, not just being jerks for no reason.
But, yeah, no one would blame you for being a little cautious. There are those toxic "fans" that would, but just ignore them. As long as you don't spread any misinfo or try to defame Viv, no one will bother you.
The Hazbin/Helluva fandom is no different than any other fandom. How it goes is basically formed around your own experience. Just be safe, since it is the internet, after all. Also, do not be afraid to step away from the fandom, if needed!
All that's left to say is: Welcome to Hell! x3
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blametheeditor · 17 days
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A Song Without Its Lyrics
Prompt Roulette By Title
Character A's best friend, Character B, is mute. That sure as hell doesn't stop Character B from somehow being the brightest, most expressive person starring in Character A's life.
Content Warnings: Cursing. Mentions of treating others as lesser than. Mentions of calling others 'pests'. Mentions of select mutism. Mentions of death and murder. Mentions of being apathetic
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“If you just listen for two seconds-” 
“Why should I? Everything you’ve said up until this point has been worthless.” 
Vincent almost wants to yawn, watching the conversation between Scott and David go in yet another circle. Not that he cares if an agreement is made tonight. No one knows he’s even here, and he wouldn’t have bothered to show up if William hadn’t commanded him to make sure the negotiations didn’t get too out of hand.
Literally. The owner of Fazbear Corporation might be worried a certain egotistical employee will abuse the fact he’s a giant and therefore grab a certain ‘supervisor’ who’s small enough to fit in the palm of his hand in the heat of the moment, but Vincent knows that wouldn’t happen. Not when pests don’t deserve to so much as even look at him, none the less have the honor to be held by him. 
Though, ‘negotiations’ is a bit of a stretch. Scott has been negotiating and trying his hardest to get David on the same page. It’s David who refuses to budge, finding every excuse imaginable to disagree with something he might have even thought of but refuses to give in solely based on principle. 
It’d be admirable and entertaining if it wasn’t so childish. To be honest, Vincent’s unsure what they’re even discussing currently, nor the original reason why Scott, Eggs, and David met up at Freddy Fazbear’s. 
Personally, at this point, he’d take Eggs out of timeout to contribute to see if anything can get done tonight, even if it’s something as simple as setting up a schedule for every restaurant on when the mechanic can run diagnostic checks and fix anything that’s needed. It might not even be part of the agenda, but at least it’d be something. 
“Look, we need to work together on this, and-” 
“I don’t want to hear another word,” David interrupts yet again. Which is a bad look all around, using the fact his voice can overpower Scott’s effortlessly to gain complete control over the situation. But Vincent isn’t here to be a babysitter, or report to William the man that was hired partly for PR is nothing but a bully behind closed doors. If Scott can’t handle such petty tactics then he’ll need to learn how. “William might listen to your idiotic suggestions, but it’s clear you have no idea what you’re doing considering I’m here. So shut up and let me work.” 
Despite being several feet away from where Scott stands on a table in order to be on an ‘equal level’, though the attempt is completely ruined by the fact David’s standing to ensure his shadow is cast over the miniscule figure, Vincent can see the sandy haired man’s expression clearly. Every shift as the look goes from fear, to anger, to despair, finally landing on determination. 
I’m not going to shut up. You are going to sit down and we are going to converse like God damn adults.
It’s only when David doesn’t respond with confusion written all over his face does Vincent realize Scott had signed the words rather than say them out loud. 
And then Vincent isn’t hiding in the shadows at Freddy Fazbear’s, waiting for the business man to react. Instead, he’s sitting at a table. In a different though similar restaurant. With a much younger Scott Cawthon sitting beside his hand. One that isn’t purple. Without a single look of trepidation aimed toward it. 
...it’s been a while since he thought about his life before William. 
“Did I do something to earn the silent treatment?” he had asked. Gently poked Scott in the attempt to get some kind of reaction. Because it was the first time his best friend wasn’t ranting about how a mother blew up on him even though her ire was directed toward another coworker. Or excitedly discussing the fact their bosses were working on a new project and they’ll be one of the first ones to see it. 
It concerned him. Scott was the only one who saw Vincent’s words and actions as more than just him being an annoying asshole. And he didn’t want to lose the human’s friendship if he crossed a line somewhere. 
He was glad he didn’t receive a glare or a yell for demanding attention when it clearly didn’t want to be given. But even though the headshake given was immediate and decisive, nothing was said. Which meant he was still worried, just for different reasons. 
The worst part was the fact Scott looked so upset, panicked, and yet still not a single word was spoken. 
“Has the free food left you speechless?” Vincent mused. “We have it, what, a minimum of five times a week if not more? But this time it managed to blow your mind how amazing reheated frozen pizza can be?”  He hadn’t thought about it before, considering it’s not something you really focus on, but it was then he realized just how expressive Scott was. Maybe because he’s human, and being around giants has you unconsciously doing everything in your power to always be heard or noticed. It meant Scott should never play poker or else lose all of his money, but it also made it easy to see the relief that Vincent wasn’t upset. As well as the cautious hope that slowly began to appear. 
Vincent was happy to continue. Tapped his chin as he hummed in thought. “Going for a world record, then? Longest without saying anything?” 
Scott rolled his eyes dramatically with a look of ‘really?’. 
“Hey, I won’t judge. But don’t expect me to help, you’ve got to time it yourself.” 
It was so brief, a blink and you’ll miss it moment, and it didn’t help just how small the human is. But Scott looked hurt by his words. 
Which meant Vincent swept him up. There wasn’t even a yelp, but a finger was hugged in order for Scott to steady himself from the sudden action. Looked up at the giant with worry. 
“We’re watching a movie at my place.” 
“I’m sorry,” had been the first thing Scott said to him the next day. 
It pissed Vincent off his best friend felt the need to apologize for something that seemed out of his control. Wanted to find whoever put the idea Scott should be ashamed of it and punch them in the face. “What for? I thought we had a great time of you silently agreeing all of my opinions are correct and should never be challenged.” 
There was a wince, but there was also a smile. “I, uh, kn-know it’s annoying.” 
“Annoying?” Vincent asked. “Unless it’s annoying for you, it’s anything but annoying for me.” 
“You weren’t, but I, I couldn’t-” Scott sputtered, looked genuinely confused. “H-How?” 
“Adds to your charm, Scotty,” Vincent smirked. “Like your stutters.” 
He didn’t ask why. And Scott didn’t tell him. 
But the next time it happened several months later he sat the human down. Forcefully. Because Scott avoided him for as long as possible before the giant managed to snag him. “Do you know ASL, Scotty?” 
That stopped Scott from running away. Which was best for all of them considering all Vincent had to do was pin him without any effort. 
He was suspicious, uncertain why that was the first thing asked, but shook his head no. 
“Then you and I are going to learn it.” 
Because even though Vincent knew how to sign and read important phrases, and could go through the very tedious process of conversing by spelling every single word out, he was far from fluent. But he would like to be. He wanted to for a while ever since he learned in order to make sure every child could be included whenever the band started to play. Giving Scott a voice when his own didn’t work was just the last push he needed. 
To be honest, Scott would’ve been fine on his own without learning any sign language. It’s impossible to misinterpret what the human was saying considering just how expressive he was, but there would be scenarios when being able to say what you mean and want would be crucial. 
And there did come a time when Scott’s only words was strictly through signing. When William came into their lives. When the human could no longer express any kind of emotion. 
When Vincent finally realized what took his best friend’s voice away. 
That’s why, for the first time in years, Vincent feels a wave of protection grip him with an iron fist as he fully registers why Scott is suddenly signing instead of speaking despite the fact David wouldn’t be able to read it. Because his voice has been stolen away. And this is the only way to say what he wants to. 
A far cry from before when all he could do was obey without a way to fight back. 
Vincent’s body is moving before he can tell it to, stepping out of the shadows with the intent to kill David where he- 
“Oooooh, are you gonna take that, David?” Eggs suddenly asks, looking up at the giant with a wicked grin. Manages to freeze Vincent in place by words alone. 
“Take what?” the business man demands. 
“Scott telling you to sit down and stop being an asshole!” 
Vincent feels the pounding rage slowly subside until he’s backing into the shadows again before any of them manage to spot him. Stares at the blond human who was able to make sure Scott was heard. 
“No I’m not going to take it. He knows nothing about keeping a restaurant running properly.” 
I’m not saying I do, I’m saying there’s things you should know about the building Afton hasn’t told you about.
Scott started signing halfway through David’s growl, but Eggs had been watching to listen to both. “Scott’s got a good point, though. William might have trap doors lying around.” 
David stares down at them. “What the hell are you talking about?” 
“Sit down and Scott’ll explain!” 
Surprisingly, the giant does. Grumbling all the while, but he does. “Explain about the possibility of trap doors.” 
No trap doors, but it’s worse than that.
“The vent’s were replaced with snakes!” 
No.
Vincent ignores the rest of the conversation. Feels his entire body finally relax. Left to try and understand what happened, and why there’s a small piece of him that hadn’t been there before that’s still wanting to go to Scott’s side. 
With it clear Eggs is acting as a mediator, the purple man quickly makes his way out of the building before turning down the sidewalk leading to William’s office. Knowing that in a few hours, Scott will join him to report what was able to get accomplished. Because nothing has changed. William’s word is law with Vincent and Scott his messengers to obey every word said to them without hesitation. 
So why does it feel like he’s losing his best friend. 
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corvidcall · 5 months
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theres a post about the FNaF movie going around where people are talking about how Mike wasn't wrong for assaulting that guy at the mall because he genuinely thought that guy was trying to abduct a child
like "well he should probably have asked questions first but if it was me, i would be grateful he jumped into action so quickly and was so motivated to save that kid!!!"
and yall..... cmon..... are you all for real? you genuinely think it's ok for someone to assault a stranger because they think that person is a criminal? i don't mean to make things too serious but like. "i thought they were a criminal, and if they WERE a criminal, you all would be thanking me right now" is literally the argument that cops use to murder innocent people every day.
how the fuck are yall having a worse opinion on a social issue than scott cawthon 😭😭😭 "actually it's fine for authorities to physically assault people, as long as they think they're probably Bad!" CMON....
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blood-and-pizza · 9 months
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Just finished reading "The Monty Within", the second story in Tales From the Pizzaplex #7.
I can't help but feel that our protagonist, Kane, was at least somewhat inspired by Kane Carter, the developer of the POPGOES games. This is because Kane Carter has been known to say really problematic things on Twitter without thinking. I'm not convinced Scott Cawthon didn't see that and think, "What if someone's possessing him to make him say that stuff?"
In this story, Kane is being possessed by Montgomery Gator... or rather, The Mimic's version of Monty. When Kane observes Monty in the food-fight game, Monty is not only copying Kane's every move, but the moves of every player around him, mimicking them. Mimic1/Glitchtrap has control of Monty in that game. And, for whatever reason, he managed to download himself into Kane's brain.
And in the end, "Monty" tries to evict Kane from his own brain and body through very extreme means. Ouch...
Mimic Monty is a destructive asshole with not a lot of empathy for others. He's a bully, plain and simple. It really makes me wonder if the real Monty has any sort of empathy for others or not...
You know what, though? If FNAF wasn't predominantly a horror series, this story could have very easily taken a comedic turn. I kinda want to see a parody of this story where, instead of Monty killing Kane, the two form a compromise and learn how co-exist in the same brain and body.
One of my favorite parts about this story is Kane's presentation about the left side of the brain, and how if it's fed bad data - particularly by parents who don't know any better - it can cause that person to make bad choices without realizing it. Which, when you think about it, is exactly what happened to The Mimic. The Mimic used to be an innocent robot endoskeleton with learning AI, but because it kept learning bad things from Edwin Murray, William Afton, and even those workers who programmed it to tear the arms off of endoskeletons, The Mimic became destructive and harmful to everyone around it.
I'm saying The Mimic is the robotic equivalent of a child who had a very poor upbringing, and is now lashing out, not even aware that what he's doing is morally wrong. Or, if he does realize it, he simply doesn't care because hurting people was all he was ever taught.
EDIT: I want to add that there's a part where Monty describes Kane's girlfriend as having a zit on her nose "as big as Chica's cupcake". And I was like... her ACTUAL cupcake, or are you talking about Chica's butt? Does Glamrock Chica even have a booty?!
Another thing I found funny is that Monty at one point comments something along the lines of, "Who needs a girlfriend, anyway?" MONTY. MONTY, YOUR LOVE FOR MEN IS SHOWING. MONTY, YOU'RE BEING VERY GAY!
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rex-spam · 1 year
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Alright!!! i didn't like the way my last post on McPig was phrased and wrote it at like 3AM before bed. Now that I've taken my time to comb through some other stances and look at some other people's viewpoints I think I've settled on a better stance to take.
I still don't support McPig as a dev. Keep in mind I've only seen what was released on the Tumblr post containing screenshots like the ones I've attached here.
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As I'm not a member of any discords that McPig is in, I don't have any proof that he's continued to act like the way he did 5 years ago in the current day. I do recognise the screenshot going around that shows he regrets this kind of behaviour.
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But even still, he DID still release PT with native American caricatures in it, and Mr. Stick and Mr. Pinch may/are both anti-semitic caricatures as well. This statement was never released publicly either, so I'm taking it as a small comfort at best and I still think there's plenty of valid reason to want to steer clear of the game.
Rumours have been circulating of sprite and mechanic reworks to remove these caricatures from the game, but I've found no solid proof of it. However I do HEAVILY endorse this as a way of apologising and redressing these complaints. Direct action to remedy things people are uncomfortable with and to keep PT accessible to all is the best apology in my eyes, and I really do hope that this is true, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
So all in all, I'm not going to be giving Pizza Tower any monetary support unless direct action is taken and changes are made. I don't condone or endorse any of the behaviour I've seen and I find it absolutely abhorrent.
However, I recognise that McPig isn't the only face behind Pizza Tower. Tons of beta testers, Sertif's work in programming, Mr. Sauceman and ClascyJitto's ost to name a few have all put incredible amounts of passion and love into this game and I don't want to rob them of that due credit. Nor do I want to say that anybody who supported, or continues to support Pizza Tower, is a bad person! I love the game too. A fantastic community has grown around this game and I'm proud to be part of it; and this isn't the first time a good fanbase has grown around media made by fairly shitty people (see Scott Cawthon, Sr. Pelo, Erin Hunter).
So chances are I'll probably still be drawing Pizza Tower stuff from time to time! I'll be tagging it accordingly, so all those who don't want to associate with the game can blacklist the tag and not associate with it. And I'm not qualified to judge anyone else outside of myself.
I heavily encourage McPig to work with the rest of Tour De Pizza to patch out caricature material in the game itself and to further moderate the Pizza Tower discord against discriminatory material. Until that happens (if it happens at all), I'll be enjoying the game and fanbase from a critical standpoint and without putting money towards the Devs.
Thanks for your understanding guys!
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I would rather not get involved with this discourse but i haven't seen anyone else mention this anywhere, so i might as well.
Its all very well calling for boycotts for the currently relevant wizard game because of who its supporting, and i agree dont get me wrong. Not buying something because the profits will be used to do wrong makes perfect sense, and so does encouraging others to do the same.
But why dont you practice what you preach. All these posts about hogwarts legacy while activision-blizzard is stacking sexual harassment lawsuits like its jenga, Scott cawthons response to the outrage about his Republican donations was to step back from the franchise, but i have seen nothing that indicates he plans to change his worldview or his spending habits.
Why is no one using any of this passion against Rowling to go bigger, why is no one in overwatch stream chats calling put streamers, why are there no posts calling people out for buying fnaf games. Do we really have that short of an attention span as to allow these problems to be buried under this new problem? Or are people only hopping on the hogwarts legacy train because its whats relevant right now. Will this go the same direction and fizzle out once a new drama pops up?
IDK, criticism is always welcome but it just doesn't make sense in my mind how people can so passionate decry one thing while completely ignoring another thing with similar issues that is actually still pretty relevant, hypocrisy isn't the right word unless they are paying for those things but it gives an impression that this whole debate is less about not supporting people who do bad things and more not supporting one specific bad person while kinda turning a blind eye to everything else
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I want to ask about Luis and Tape Girl (Kelly).
Yes, they are both security guards, it seems to be clear how they met. But still, I'm interested to know about their first steps of rapprochement.
Oooh, you see, these two knew each other even before working together.
After the Fnaf VR events, Kelly Cawthon, wanting to protect subsequent beta-testers from the influence of Glitchtrap, turned to the company where the unfortunate game was outsourced and found out the names and contact information of people on this position. After contacting Vanessa and learning that a mysterious yellow rabbit decided to visit her and that Afton had already collected all of her tapes, she insists on a personal contact, during which she will explain more. This kind of scares Vanessa, but curiosity makes her give the weird girl a chance.
Kelly saw her quite often after that, studying her condition and trying to find a way to eradicate the parasite (which Vanessa didn’t really complain about) before something bad happens to her too. Once she accompanied her to the place of a new job and, after having already separated, she suddenly felt sick.
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Glitch creature made an attempt to make a Tape girl his new host in the past, but the attempt was unsuccessful due to the fact that Cawthon turned off all devices faster than the process was completed. But it still caused a certain harm to consciousness, which manifested itself in sudden states of disorientation with concomitant dizziness and an unreasonable feeling of nausea, which bothered her in the next few months after that possession attempt. It so happened that one of them took place right on the street, and it so happened that Cabrera, who was heading in the same direction as Afton, saw her and noticed that something was wrong with this passerby. He clumsily tried to help her, bought her a water, and when she convinced him that everything was alright with her now, he fastly left, leaving behind the phone that he took out when considered that it might be worth calling an ambulance.
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Kelly, using his phone, contacts his acquaintances and, well, the guy himself, setting up a meeting at which she will return the forgotten thing to Luis. There, she gets to know him in more detail and, feeling really embarrassed about the incident, insists that she should either return the money to him or buy something as well. He is embarrassed to take anything from her, she is uncomfortable that he does not take anything, and, in the end, Cabrera makes a concession. His new acquaintance buys him something to drink too (maybe his beloved coffee, dunno) and they manage to bright up a conversation when he finds out that she is Scott Cawthon’s daughter, and that she shares the same interest in IT and programming stuff as him (by “him” I mean Luis). The rest is history. I think they chatted online more after this, though had a couple of times when they went for a walk together somewhere and talked face to face.
They seemed to become nice pals. But then “Special Delivery” events happened.
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