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eddiebillysteve · 2 years

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may i present: stalker!billy who is obsessed with steve and constantly breaks into his house to steal his things and gets pissed off when he sees jonathan taking pictures of him and nancy because he thinks he's taking pictures of steve.

I WROTE THIS REAL QUICK BUT I NEEDED TO DO THE TINIEST LITTLE DRABBLE ON IT AND?? MAYBE I SHOULD?? TURN IT INTO A FULL FIC IDK?? So much pOTENTIAL?? ANYWAY I’M GOING TO SLEEP NOW BUT THANK U MUCH FOR SENDING THIS LITTLE?? REQUEST? IN?? IF IT WASN’T A REQUEST LET ME KNOW AND I’LL DELETE THIS ILY

trigger warnings: stalking, dark!billy, slut shaming? maybe it would be called?, possessiveness and toxicity and also billy thinking about hurting/murdering people but nothing too intense or bad!

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Steve Harrington’s house still baffled Billy despite being inside dozens of times. It was just so different than the shitty house they’d moved into when moving to Hawkins, where he had to use a milk crate as a vanity and the shower he shared with his brat of a kid sister only spit out hot water half the time. It was massive, with a gorgeous swimming pool like the one he used to have in their home in California.

He still didn’t understand the downgrade. Their home had been much nicer in California, Neil had had a better paying job. For whatever stupid reason, after he married Susan, his father decided to take a transfer to Hawkins where he made half his Californian salary. They were financially struggling and it made living with Neil even harder than normal.

That was the real reason why he liked being over to the Harrington house so much.

Steve didn’t know he was constantly around, but it made no difference. He didn’t need to know, at least not yet. He had to continue to believe that Billy couldn’t stand King Steve so he would never suspect that the reason his things were started disappearing was because of Billy Hargrove.

He liked to take souvenirs every now and then. A pair of Steve’s underwear here, one of his sweatshirts out of the laundry basket there. Someone so rich would never miss the disposable things, he figured. Nothing had happened yet, at least, and his Steve collection continued to grow.

The truth of the matter was that he loved Steve. It was why he acted so mean around him, like a child picking on a girl they had a crush on in the school yard. It didn’t work, though. Steve continued to be blissfully oblivious to his advances even though Billy got more and more obvious about it — a few weeks prior he’d pressed his bulge against Steve during a basketball practice, even, and nothing.

The guy was hopelessly heterosexual or a proper idiot, and Billy was banking on the later.

He was having a very rough day, a fresh bruise blooming on his cheek from the fist of his father, when he heard it.

Laughter. A girl’s laughter.

Nancy Wheeler’s laughter.

He crept to the fence surrounding the Harrington’s backyard and looked through the tiny hole he’d made a few months prior. The world suddenly turned red at what he saw.

Nancy Wheeler in a tiny little bikini, practically hanging off of his Steve, who was also just in his swimming trunks. He looked as beautiful as ever, but Billy had the most sour taste in his mouth at the sight of Nancy.

It should have been him. He should have been the once pressing into Steve, holding his arm.

Steve belonged to him.

It wasn’t just the two of them, though. The older Byers kid was there, too, and he was also laughing and taking pictures of the pair of them.

He tried to calm down by adding up the facts in his head.

Nancy and Steve had broken up months ago. They were still friends, but they never really spoke. Steve had groveled over her for awhile, had let it affect his basketball skills, too, until Billy had taunted him enough that he’d gotten his head back in the game. There were rumours that Nancy had quickly moved on to Byers, which he had assumed to be true, but now he wasn’t so sure.

For her sake, he hoped it was true. He wouldn’t let anyone come between him and his lover, even if said lover didn’t know they were together yet, especially not Nancy Fucking Wheeler.

It’d be such a tragedy for the entire town if a bright young girl with so much potential wound up floating in the Quarry.

He watched her bounce around, trying to look innocent while still pressing her arms together in that way that girls did when they wanted to make some extra cleavage and show off without being obvious.

It made him feel sick. She was such a little priss in school, yet here she was, basically ready to star in a porno with her ex for Byers’ camera.

What pissed him off further was that it meant he wasn’t going to get into Steve’s room, either. They were supposed to be out of the house; Steve was always out on Tuesday’s at four. Billy was sure of it, because he’d been watching Steve every day for many months and knew what he did every second of every day.

He knew the kind of cereal he liked to eat, what station he kept the radio on, how he folded his socks and where his secret stash of condoms and nude magazines were. He’d looked through them, had found the pages that were turned down. They were all women, all brunettes with tight bodies that could have been Nancy if you squinted hard enough, but it didn’t make any difference.

They were destined to be together. Steve just didn’t know it yet. But he’d find out one day soon, and Billy would convince him they were soulmates whether he liked the fact or not.

The more he watched, the angrier he got. Steve had already had his pictures taken for the yearbook by Byers’ two weeks and three days ago during fourth period at school. Their current little party wasn’t anything to do with school or the yearbook, he was sure of it.

This was Jonathan Byers being a pervert and Nancy Wheeler being a slut and he couldn’t let his sweet boy be tarnished by their poison.

#billy hargrove #harringrove #harringrove fic #harringrove au #dark!billy hargrove #harringrove drabble #my drabbles #tw: stalking #tw: possessive behavior #answered

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iceyrukia · 2 years

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liberal feminists be like: oh there’s rampant pedophilia, incest, misogyny, sexual abuse, rape, racism, human trafficking in the porn industry? really? well I’ll be dammed that sucks :( I didn’t notice even though I go to these sites and see videos titled: “ TINY ASIAN ( BARELEY LEGAL ;) ) TEEN SLUT GETS HUMILIATED BY STEP-FATHERS BIG WHITE COCK”. and the suggested video with a thumbnail showing a prepubescent girl-oh I mean women (I’m sure it’s a women people wouldn’t post a lil girl right??) in pigtails sitting in a pink bedroom filled with children’s toys looking innocently up at the camera isn’t wierd. yes that might be a kid but let’s not assume the worst that’s just a women that likes pigtails, and toys so don’t assume ok. also ur a weirdo for thinking that way actually ur the pedophile for pointing it’s out me thinks 😕. oh I forgot we were talking about those aesthetics in the context of porn. hmmm well idk what if a women likes it so stop 🛑 with all the infantilism #supportallwomen. and no let’s not question why any man would to fuck a women that resembles a child. as long as it’s not a lil girl it’s not actual pedophilia it’s just a kink u judgey prude. plus those aren’t the norm in porn what kind of videos are you watching LoL I only 🤥 watch every other video that casually uses the words “ bitch/whore/slut/ cum dumpster” as replacement for the word women tho HAHAHA just normal kink stuff ya know and stop slut shaming me becuz it’s not misogynistic since I’ve reclaimed the words slut and bitch 😤 like I’m so cunty 🥵 for that ughhh it’s just #badbitch things you wouldn’t get it 🤪. no you don’t get it by calling myself a slut it cancels out the history of the word and I’m sure the men watching these videos don’t associate sex as an act of hate towards women. constantly jacking off to “ slut devours my dick” only rewires men’s brains to see women as human being even more. oh tbh I only watch feminist lesbian porn because I support women😏. uuummm no it doesn’t mimics the dynamics of straight misogynistic porn and doesn’t cater to voyeurisric creepy men what are you taking about??? shut up stop trying to ruin everything. gurl alllsooooooo gay porn exists so much idk why you’re trying to claim all porn is bad. this is NOT comparable in any way to men saying that women should stop taking about rape because men can also be raped ok because uhhh porn makes me horny and that’s all that matters so there #notallporn. ✊WeLL Anywayzz like I was sayin uh damn 😔 I hope all the human trafficking and rape stops. I hope all of that junk * motions vaguely* gets regulated soon in order to soothe my guilty conscio- I mean for the safety of all those women getting abused. wait ur saying that it should be our priority as feminists to stop this??? nahhhh I think the men running these sites making profit out of actual rape videos have our best interests in mind they’ll come around! also what if all the good ethical porn by the totally consenting sex workers gets deleted as collateral damage for going after these companies. Ur so insensitive and short sited god 😬 im sure the millions of porn videos out there will be screened and regulated don’t worry!! even if a women is traumatized by her rape video floating around it doesn’t take precedent over the other good videos ur being unfair. like I freakin said #notallporn. oh you can never really tell whether porn is consensual????? well, YOU can’t tell that it isn’t so there 🤷‍♀️# unoreversecard # checkmate. ur just being a negative nancy 🙄 anyways until that time comes when the porn industry magically regulates itself I’m still gonna watch porn sooo yea- oh now wut do you have to say? hmmm? the existence of pornography and my bdsm kink are all due to living under a misogynistic patriarchal society?? Impossible!!! how can it be bad if it makes me feel good 😂 that’s stupid af. socialization? oh I’m immune to that because I’m a strong independent smart women stop patronizing me. it’s makes me feel good to wank off to porn so it can’t be bad how many times do I have to tell you????

#ic.text #long post #sorry this is long but I needed to vent my frustration

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sailsinstorms · 1 year

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Legacy of the Girls - Part 5

Let's continue reading, shall we?

So Power Conservation Day finally ended, not long before HarvestFest ended. So I quickly had Molly toss together a grand meal. She still seems to dislike Radley even though they're literally having a conversation right now. And yes, you'd be right to notice that she's making something salmon based. And Radley is a vegetarian.

Molly: Time for dinner losers! Get the hell down here!

Radley: *notices Molly staring at her* Did you... is there fish in this? Molly: *nods slowly and stares* Radley was definitely sick after eating that. Poor kiddo. To be fair that's my fault. I forgot she was vegetarian.

So… in this scene we have a household bonding session watching some good old-fashioned Brokeback Mountain. And Radley and Molly bonding over their desire to either A) Beat each other up — or B) Beat up the lecherous perv staring through the window. I should really invest in some curtains…

I don't know what Loren was doing "at work" today. It must have been some kind of commercial. But she came home in this cute af space get-up. I love it. She looks so cool! She passed out not long after this photo, but it was worth it.

Since Winter is in the doctor career that requires me to go to work with her every now and again. So today, we're going to accompany Winter to the hospital. Let's go!

Winter: I'm so excited to be here! I love helping people! Nurse: Go vacuum the supply closet.

Winter: Flat foot Syndrome is very common in Sims. I'm sure we can fix you. Child: Really Miss? Winter: There's a mod for everything. <3

I don't know about you guys but the constant stream of patients lining up in the waiting room is a constant source of stress for me. It's literally impossible to get to them all, let alone treat them all, and I always feel bad for them.

Caught this kid taking selfies of his mad gunz while some perv checks him out. It's nice to know the drama continues at the hospital as well.

Meanwhile, back at the lot, Radley and Solar are on the same work schedules.

So they leave at the same time and finish at the same time and often get promoted at the same time. Whenever they get home together they're often miserable.

Molly is up to her usual mischief shenanigans. I always assume that whenever she's pranking the toilet she's just putting glad wrap across the bowl. At least the girls are constantly improving their handiness skills whenever a toilet malfunctions.

SOLAR! Seriously, who is this man!?

Oh my God! The Peeping Tom guy is watching Solar and her man through the window and beating one out at the same time! I should have invested in those curtains I always said I was going to get but never did!

I really need to do something about this guy!

Here's a little more of Loren practicing her acting skills. I love watching her do this. It's so cute.

Winter: Mya! Please baby, come down from up there? I'll give you treats and cuddles?!

These two adore each other. Winter loves no man more than she loves her feline friend <3

Since Winter is always studying medical related things and she's very ambitious she's often wanting to get focused or skill up. I love her thumbnail whenever she's focused. Almost as much as I love Loren's "scared" thumbnail.

AH YES! IT'S THE DAY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR! WHERE IS THE SERIAL PEEPING OFFENDER!?

There he is, loitering at my back door.

Molly: Hey shithead! You're disgusting! Get off my lawn! Tom: It's a free neighborhood. I'll stand where I want! You don't have fences or curtains! Who's fault is that!?

Get 'im, Molly! Give him an uppercut! I don't know what wrestling moves are, but knock him out!

YEAH SHE WON! Atta girl! (I made her beat him up a few more times after this just to reaffirm their status as enemies)

Elsewhere, Loren is fighting random's in the street.

Loren: I can see that you're pregnant. So even though it's Neighourhood Brawl Day, I'm gonna let you walk away Miss Landgraab. Nancy: Thank you?

The next chapter is the Festival of Snow! *hearteyes*

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kaypeace21 · 2 years

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Hey, can we talk about Jonathan? You're one of the few blogs that seems interested in his trajectory as a character, you always have good thoughts. Most people seem to think stoner Jonathan is funny, but he looks in a bad way to me. I wonder if that's what the fight with Mike is about. It looks like Jonathan has given up on himself. Maybe he isn't being there for Will either, except for basic stuff like rides to school. (Jancy break-up, or mental health issues? I can't decide. Maybe both.)

I know! With jonathan most people don't like or care to think about Jonathan's trajectory... and if so their expectations are low.

I don't think that's why they're fighting - they may be freaking out if El was just taken away from the roller rink or something. And then bam now the gov breaks into the room/house. But who knows...

As far as his trajectory i think it'll be rough for a while.

He may feel left behind by everyone. Will was was supposed to be Jonathan's " best friend " /sibling. And now Will is probably busy being a sibling to el ? Who everyone probably assumes is Will's sibling -over jonathan. Cause willel look more alike. Maybe that's why they say argyle is now Jonathan's "new best friend" on st official twitter. Cause jonathan felt left behind by Will his prior "best friend. " Not to mention joyce is probably trying to help El adjust- but is thus accidentally neglecting jonathan, the oldest, in the process . So now he feels joyce and Will left him behind 😭

Not to mention - jonathan and nancy probably broke up. So now he has no gf and through his perspective: nancy, his mom and brother also emotionally' left him'- that could easily fuel his parental abandonment issues with Lonnie. :(

We know jonathan is a parentified child - he pretty much made his whole purpose in life taking care of his family (aka his mom and brother- both emotionally and finacially ) . He also was always stuck working.And now the byers - whether because of el's inheritance or dr. owens secretly helping,etc, - have a nice house (and jonathan is probably not needed to finacially support them anymore). His whole purpose is taken away. His whole family is probably busy helping El adjust, and possibly through Jonathan's warped perspective they don't seem to need him finacially or emotionally anymore . And joyce,Will, and Nancy all left him behind- just like lonnie.

Not to mention- without the need to constantly work jonathan doesn't have a distraction from his possibly very tra*matizing past. And that could also severely affect his mental health.

We see in some s4 movies this is implied. "Backdraft" the brothers get into the fight: " what you're not a fan of the way I raised you? Dad wasn't around what was i supposed to do? I wanted so many things for you- things I could never dream of cause after that I had no choices".

In "reality bites " winona's character (who makes documentaries)was in her words stuck being a parent to her younger sibling after her parents divorced. And now doesn't have much direction- now that she's officially an adult. "in the visit" the older sibling is also making a documentary- and she was taught things about cameras by her dad who abandoned the family. The siblings get into a fight- when the younger sibling says they thought their dad left cause he messed up in a sports game. The older sibling insitinctually says that's obviously not true , and its not the younger sibling's fault. Which offends the younger sibling who thought this was the case for years . So he says something to hurt the older sibling's psyche and make them cry. The older sibling also was friends with a pizza guy. Yikes.

In some of the movies said to inspire s4: characters act out due to tra*ma - by doing dr*gs/being hyperse*ual. Probably jonathan.

in "enter the void"- older brother who was stuck taking care of his younger sibling. Who even cut his hand like jonathan- started doing dr*gs and ho*king up with a woman old enough to be his mom. gilbert grape: older brother is parentified and is stuck taking care of his mom and siblings, snaps emotionally, also hooks up with an older married women way too old for him. Tw: sa/inc*st. In magnolia & forrest gump & girl with the dragon tattoo, and many other films the character who was sex*ally abused by a parent -starts coping with dr*gs and being hyperse*ual. In magnolia she was into blasting rock music super loud in her room, doing dr*gs , and h**king up with strangers old enough to be her dad - and was afraid to admit what her dad did to her as a kid. In forerest gump- jenny was also m*lested by her father in elementary school- and as a teen and adult she started playing music, doing dr*gs and h**king up with ab*sive guys (similar to her dad). This storyline of doing dr*gs /h**kups cause of se*ual tra*ma stemming from her dad was in- girl with the dragon tattoo,as well. And we also had this storyline hinted at in "black swan " (friend jokes about her creepy ab*sive parent- so she pops the pill when she initially rejected it, then she starts hallucinating and hearing the parent's voice "that's my little girl". She then finds herself making out with a stranger in a bathroom, and runs out of there when she stoped blacking out ). Like that stuff wasn't that subtle- she then goes home and hallucinates ho*king up with someone- and the imaginary person say the exact same phrase as the creepy parent "that's my little girl'. And the parent always made creepy comments,etc... And I'm sadly not exaggerating when I say over 30+ movies on the s4 list- had a plot line about an adult or parent/relative se*ually ab*sing their kid (which wasn't simply up to interpretation). So yeah, I think jonathan may not be coping well now that he has no distractions from his past ...

Also they gave jonathan a Blond Billy-esque mullet ,that's suspicious.

Him and billy do have obvious differences. But the parallels are still there.

Jonathan does have a blonde mullet/is smoking (like Billy), and probably working at “surfer boy’ (like how billy surfed when in Cali,as a boy). Johnathan was even forced to k*ll a rabbit by his dad- billy's surname-hargrove means “field of rabbits”.Both were attracted to wheeler women. Both attacked steve when a younger sibling dissappear. Both are poor and had a parent abandon them.And both their dads: play baseball, call their sons h*mophobic names , and had a son named William who was posssessed .

They say in the runaway max novel: Billy acted worse after moving from California to hawkins. The same could be true for when jonathan moves to California (from hawkwins) . Also his hair sort of resembles Joyce's s1 hair a bit too- which still isn't good cause joyce in s1 wasn't in the best head-space.

I remember after s3 charlie heaton said he wanted to see "jonathan lose his mind... because he's been through all this stuff and can't take it anymore". And it seemed like it could be a bit of eerie foreshadowing .

Maybe I'm totally off- and Jonathan's whole plot is comedic. But I'm not so sure about that... I mean argyle will definitely be comedic. If anything argyle could be a foil to jonathan. Argyle being a happy dude who is just having fun smoking some w**d. Vs jonathan who is using it to avoid more deep seeded issues. I don't know i just have a feeling that jonathan ... is dealing with some stuff.

#jonathan byers #will byers #stranger things #stranger things theory

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girlactionfigure · 3 years

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Ellen Naomi Cohen was born on September 19, 1941.

She was mocked by people who didn’t know her heart, she was teased by supposed friends. Even after her death, the cruel joke was that she choked on a ham sandwich.

All this because of her weight.

The jokes hurt her, as it does many people who are called “fat,” who are ridiculed for the way they look, but she hid her pain well, as do many.

In high school, she adopted the name “Cass,” and, some time later, she would assume the surname “Elliot” in memory of a friend who had died.

According to a 2019 article by writer, Sheila Weller, “Cass—Ellen Naomi Cohen—was a middle-class Jewish girl from Baltimore who left high school six months before graduation to go to New York and try Broadway. She lost the role of Mrs. Marmelstein in ‘I Can Get It For You Wholesale’ to a budding young Jewish singer-actress who did her share to establish the rule that you didn’t have to be classically beautiful to be a star: Barbra Streisand. Cass then got a job as a coat check girl at a Manhattan nightclub, the Bitter End, singing and trying to get random agents’ attention, as she juggled hangers and quarters as tips.”

Cass Elliot had a wonderful, soothing voice, she had a wonderful personality, a beautiful soul, but the story is that initially not even John Phillips wanted her as part of his new group, which would become the Mamas and Papas. According to insiders, Phillips thought she was too fat and didn’t fit the image of the group. It was only when the group realized that she had a beautiful voice which actually made the group better that she was allowed more opportunities to sing.

When she was finally featured, she had to make up a story that she had a terrible voice until a pipe fell on her head, which somehow made her voice better.

Even after that, Elliot’s weight continued to be a source for jokes.

In one of the Mamas and the Papas biggest hits, “Creeque Alley”, Elliot had to join the chorus, singing, “And no one’s getting fat except Mama Cass!”

After she left the group, she tried to get away from the name “Mama” Cass to no avail.

“My mother was The Little Engine That Could,” her daughter Owen Elliot-Kugell told Weller. “Weight shaming was something she dealt with all her life. She was constantly insulted and hurt by people calling or thinking her fat. But she never talked about her pain, and when she performed, she hid that pain. But I know — I could tell—that it bothered her. As a child she was teased as a fatty. Her weight was something she bore the scars of for the rest of her life, be it failed auditions for Broadway shows or lonely nights after The Mamas and The Papas’ performances at Carnegie Hall or the Hollywood Bowl, coming home alone when everyone else had a partner.”

She once said, “I’ve been fat since I was seven and being fat sets you apart.”

“For others, that might have been a handicap but Cass turned it into a strength,” according to The Guardian. “She opened the door for others like Janis Joplin and Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane,” says DJ Annie Nightingale. “I adored her voice, you couldn’t help but like her and she helped establish a genre of independent women.”

“Cass’s impact on 60s teenagers with weight problems was significant,” said The Guardian. Nancy Roberts, founder member of the Spare Tyre Theatre Company, a group inspired by Susie Orbach’s Fat is a Feminist Issue, explains: “She was this wonderful sexy role model and inspiration who made it less of an incriminating burden to be fat.”

“Aside from breaking the weight-shaming stigma and rising as an improbable female icon, Cass was other things young women weren’t allowed to be then but can be now — a proud single-mother-by-choice and a working mother who supported her child alone,” according to Weller.

“At 25, Cass knew she wanted to be a solo mother — a bold choice at the time, even in bohemian circles,” according to NexTribe.

“She wanted me more than anything else in the world — she told people that,” her daughter said.

But, even with all her personal and musical triumphs and outwardly confidence, Elliot constantly felt the brunt of the fat jokes and the pressure to be slim.

“She said she’d never go on stage because Michelle was beautiful and she wasn’t,” says John Phillips, one of the Papas. She was persuaded to change her mind but no one stopped her trying dangerous diets.

Elliot tried desperately to lose weight, once going on a six-month long crash diet, losing 100 of her 300 pounds. This would lead to a stomach ulcer and throat problems, which was treated by drinking milk and cream, leading her to regain much of her weight back.

At age 32, Elliot would die in her sleep. Immediately, there were rumors that she either died because of drugs or that she died while eating a ham sandwich.

Frank Zappa would even reference the sandwich in his song, “We’re Turning Again” with the lyrics, “We can visit Big Mama, we can whap her on the back, while she eats her sandwich!”

As recent as 2007, even Snopes had to post an entry and dispute the ham sandwich myth of her death.

Owen Elliot was seven when her mother died. “It’s been hard for my family with the sandwich rumour,” she says. “One last slap against the fat lady. People seem to think it’s funny. What’s so darn funny?”

According to reports, there was no evidence to support the choking theory. The official autopsy revealed she had little to eat during her final hours. “There was left-sided heart failure,” wrote pathologist Keith Simpson. “She had a heart attack which developed rapidly.”

Heart failure.

Cass Elliot not only had a beautiful voice, but she also had a beautiful heart which few people got to see.

Anthony Kiedis of Red Hot Chili Peppers cited The Mamas & the Papas, and especially Elliot, as an influence, in an interview for Rolling Stone, saying, “There have been times when I’ve been very down and out in my life, and the sound of her voice has sort of given me a reason to want to carry on.”

“She was a one-woman triumph against adversity; she was ahead of her time; women now are finally doing what she did 50 years ago,” says her daughter. “I look back on her and realize that, just by example, she taught me, and others, not to accept it when someone says you can’t do something.”

“I’m proud to be my mother’s daughter,” says Owen. “When I’m having a tough day, for whatever reason, I think of all the ‘you can’t be this; you can’t do thats’ that my mother heard but ignored or conquered. She was a hero to me.”

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Ellen Naomi Cohen was born in Baltimore, Maryland, on September 19, 1941, the daughter of Bess (née Levine; 1915–1994) and Philip Cohen (died 1962) All four of her grandparents were Russian Jewish immigrants.

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ziracona · 3 years

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T and X for the ask meme pls?

Headcanons I’d die defending, and 5-10 precious babies I would die to protect.

Oh geeze, only 5-10??? Honestly all the survivors in ILM are my kids and I don’t have favorites between them. Uhhh, plus a few of the killers. (Since you didn’t specify fandom ima assume it’s dbd/the one I am most active in RN). Let me try to pick top 10 most likely to /need/ me to come defend them instead. Uhhh, Claudette, Meg, Nea, Adiris, Susie, David, Jeff, Joey, Lisa, Philip???? Note that Quentin didn’t make this list because there’s already six+ people in line ahead of me to protect him including Anna, Claudette, David, Kate, Laurie, and Nancy, and Laurie and Michael because they’re there to kill for each other. Also David is looking out for her, BUT WHO IS LOOKING OUT FOR DAVID??? Who??? 😭😭😭This is too hard. 😭 Kate deserves a slot but I’m out of room. Everyone does. Me trying to look after the survivors and good killers:

But Claudette deserves the world and is easily taken advantage of because she is small and extremely kind and people abuse kindness, so I would happily die defending her. Jeff is big but his heart too big as well, so I also need to be there to stop him from getting himself killed trying to help someone who doesn’t deserve it (his dog needs him to come home!!! And also I just fucking love Jeff!!). Nea already got abandoned by her own parents and while she’s a tough punk, she’s not as adjsuted as she pretends, and she deserves so much better. Meg is cool and fun and charismatic and full of brovado, but inside she’s terified of being abandoned or annoying people away and never realizing she’s doing it, and I’d take a bullet for her. Adiris has never had one goddamn good thing her whole life despite trying well past human ability, and I will see she gets some. Susie is a scared teen trying to hang on in a horrible situation who just wants to believe she’s worthwhile and worthy of love and has something worthwhile to give and be. Poor David always is muscle for the rest of his friends but his heart is not protected!! Or his muscles really—he gets hurt constantly! And who is there when he gets hurt huh?? Nobody! Because he wants to pretend he’s fine so they won’t worry. Because he thinks big and strong and able to protect are what he has to offer. No more! No, David behind me now I take the hits. Joey is also teen in horrible situation, but instead of identity crisis he is stuck between dissociating into evil and crisis of conscience into what he knows will kill him or get him horribly hurt, and this poor kid never wanted this! He just wanted to listen to music and hang out with his friends and be liked and make people happy. He’s dying someone please help him. Lisa was kidnapped and tortured and then broken and controlled by the thing she asked for help into becoming what she hates most, and also, living in an eternal state of starvation is agony and no one should experience that. It’s ungodly cruel and I’d die for her. I want her to get to be happy and at peace and have the life that was stolen from her again. And then of course my boy Philip. All this poor man ever wanted was to live and be left alone and be okay, but at every turn life just threw such a simple goal in his face. He’s a good man who never wanted more than to be a good man and to live some kind of life that wasn’t agony and full of fear, and instead he experienced genocide as a child, then was tricked into killing hundreds of people himself by hiss boss, then again in the realm and broken and beaten and controlled, while still just trying and wanting to be the same thing he’s always been. I’d kill myself to save Philip.

Geeze. Well, steadfast headcanons I have plenty of but this would get ridiculously long if I listed them so I’ll just do the first two that pop into my head for this ask. Philip and Vigo are both gay and because of where and when they grew up, never actually had the chance to safely be with anyone and never were, until they both fell in love with each other in the realm. They were first and only loves, and even after the loss of one by the other, it’s the kind of connection where your heart just stays with the other person and you talk to them even though they’re gone, and keep loving them quietly while you wait to see them in the next life. (Or, of you’re a crazy mofo, try to find a way to bring them back from the dead with all the deep abiding love in your heart and magic in your past, old books, and computer’s search history).

And my second one is that Claudette is Autistic and Asexual, half of which anyway is basically mainstream canon anyway, (I think I write her as panro-asexual), Nancy Holbrook is Autistic, Meg is ADHD, and Vigo is also Autistic. My neurodivergent kids are very important to me.

#ask #anonymous #thanks for asking! enjoy #in living memory #in living memory (fic)#dead by daylight #fun fact! when writing Vigo Philip actually figured out he was autostic before I did but I was like ‘oh my god of course’ because all the #things he did clicked. Meg I figured out faster but I was like ‘Meg this...this reaction seems...oddly...relatable?’ and then #Meg: ;) adhd bitch #Me: : O *Miss Peacock from Clue voice* OH MY GOD OF COURSE #solidarity I love my kids #also I would die for any and all my ilm kids I’d die for Adam for Ace for Feng for Jane for Tapp! for Jake for Dwight! for Laurie Michael #Quin Anna Sally Benedict! just—I tried to pick the least likely to defend themselves or aalreayd have one or more ppl waiting in the wings #to snipe on coming threats

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DW: The Monster in the Closet

I realized while looking at a Girl in the Fireplace analysis that when Moffat involves a child in an episode, he chooses a particular set of tropes. It’s no secret he has favorite types of stories; this one I’ll call “The Monster in the Closet.” Moffat came onto Doctor Who writing Monster in the Closet stories; in fact, take a look at his first 6 stories: The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, the Girl in the Fireplace, Blink, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, The Eleventh Hour, and The Beast Below. With the exception of Blink, they all fall into this category. Why? More on that below, after we look at what the episodes share.

I’m including Night Terrors in this analysis because it’s so fitting: it’s literally about a monster and a closet. It’s actually written by Gatiss, but copies many of the same tropes and subverts the ending. I’m not including Listen, because I honestly don’t remember it well enough to analyze and don’t care for a re-watch just yet. Plus, I think Moffat was trying to branch out by that point.

Here’s what’s in a standard Moffat Monster in the Closet episode.

The Child

Fake Faces

Repetition is Creepy

The Doctor’s Reputation

The Bad Guy isn’t evil, just fulfilling its nature

The child (or perceived child) is isolated from the adults in their life who should protect them but don’t realize the monsters are real. The Doctor steps in to validate them and solve figure out how to tackle their monster, who is real.

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances: Nancy (Jamie and the kids Nancy looks after are also contestants here.)

The Girl in the Fireplace: Reinette

Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead: Cal

The Eleventh Hour: Amelia Pond

The Beast Below: Mandy (Timmy is also a contestant)

Night Terrors: George

Fake faces indicate something uncanny is occurring. The two-faced nature of the monsters suggests that the monster is not what we think it is.

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances

The Girl in the Fireplace

Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead

The Beast Below: (Liz 10 also has a mask and initially comes off as sinister, and is revealed to be part of the problem by choosing ignorance)

This is a bit of a stretch, but here’s the face-changing Prisoner Zero from the Eleventh Hour:

It’s worth noting that the Doctor had his own face change in this episode, so we’re waiting to see if he’s the genuine article or if he’s more like the monsters.

Night Terrors. Doesn’t get creepier than this.

Repetition is creepy. This doesn’t really serve a narrative purpose beyond being creepy, other than perhaps to indicate the monster has a goal that we do not understand. When we do, we can solve the problem. This kind of reminds me of when a kid is trying to get their parent’s attention, but they’re on the phone and don’t really hear. I find that just like fake faces, the more often this is used, the more banal I find it.

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances: Creepiest thing ever

The Girl in the Fireplace: What is that mysterious ticking noise?

Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead: (so much repetition here that any episode after it that uses repetition feels like overkill to me)

The Eleventh Hour:

The Beast Below does something a little different. It goes for a creepy nursery rhyme instead:

GIRL: A horse and a man, above, below. One has a plan, but both must go. Mile after mile, above, beneath. One has a smile, and one has teeth. GIRL: Though the man above might say hello, expect no love from the beast below.

Night Terrors:

DOCTOR: George! George, what's going on? Are you doing it? ALEX: What's happening? GEORGE: Please save me from the monsters. Please save me from the monsters. Please save me from the monsters. Please save me from the monsters. DOCTOR: George, no! GEORGE: Please save me from the monsters. Please save me from the monsters. Please save me from the monsters. ALEX: Help me, Doctor! GEORGE: Please save me from the monsters. DOCTOR: George, no! (The Doctor is dragged back into the cupboard.) GEORGE: Please save me from the monsters. Please save me from the monsters. Please save me from the monsters. (Alex is dragged into the cupboard.) ALEX: No! (And the door slams shut. Peace reigns again.)

Line about Doctor’s reputation scaring off the bad guys: The Doctor acts as a parental figure, but instead of dismissing the childish fear of the monsters, he validates and vanquishes. He fulfills a parental role, though, and just as parents scare away monsters by virtue of being an adult, the Doctor scares away monsters just by being the Doctor.

*The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances: Saving this one for last.

The Girl in the Fireplace:

DOCTOR: Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? YOUNG REINETTE: What do monsters have nightmares about? DOCTOR: Me!

Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead:

VASTA NERADA: These are our forests. They are our meat. DOCTOR: Don't play games with me. You just killed someone I liked. That is not a safe place to stand. I'm the Doctor, and you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look me up. (The Vasta Nerada desists and gives him a day to evacuate the library)

The Eleventh Hour:

DOCTOR: Okay. One more. Just one. Is this world protected? Because you're not the first lot to come here. Oh, there have been so many. (The projection shows the Daleks et al.) DOCTOR: And what you've got to ask is, what happened to them? (A run through of all the previous Doctors, then this Doctor steps through the projection with a jacket and bow tie.) DOCTOR: Hello. I'm the Doctor. Basically, run.

The Beast Below:

This one breaks the mold a bit: It’s Liz 10 who does all of the “fear my reputation lines” and pulls almost the same line as the Doctor in 11th hour (I'm the bloody Queen, mate. Basically, I rule). What ties this to other Monster in the Closet episodes is that problem’s solution comes from realizing how amazing the Doctor is, and applying that logic to our misunderstood Starwhale. Since it doesn’t need to be scared away like our past few monsters, we get this instead:

AMY: The Star Whale didn't come like a miracle all those years ago. It volunteered. You didn't have to trap it or torture it. That was all just you. It came because it couldn't stand to watch your children cry. What if you were really old, and really kind and alone? Your whole race dead. No future. What couldn't you do then? If you were that old, and that kind, and the very last of your kind, you couldn't just stand there and watch children cry.

AMY: Amazing though, don't you think? The Star Whale. All that pain and misery and loneliness, and it just made it kind. DOCTOR: But you couldn't have known how it would react. AMY: You couldn't. But I've seen it before. Very old and very kind, and the very, very last. Sound a bit familiar?

Night Terrors:

Again, the formula’s changing. Here, the Doctor’s title declaration triggers the monster and makes the scary stuff happen rather than the other way ‘round because the resolution is reconciliation between parent and child. If the Doctor were to be the substitute parental figure, he would interfere with that reconciliation.

GEORGE [memory]: Who are you? DOCTOR [memory]: I'm the Doctor. GEORGE [memory]: A doctor? Have you come to take me away? Away. Away. Away. DOCTOR: That's what did it. That's what the trigger was. He thought you were rejecting him. He thought he wasn't wanted, that someone was going to come and take him away.

(It should be noted that there’s still a title declaration where the Doctor assumes that people should know and respect his title, even though they have no logical reason to:

DOCTOR: I'm not just a professional. I'm the Doctor. ALEX: What's that supposed to mean? DOCTOR: It means I've come a long way to get here, Alex. A very long way. George sent a message. A distress call, if you like. Whatever's inside that cupboard is so terrible, so powerful, that it amplified the fears of an ordinary little boy across all the barriers of time and space. )

So that brings me back to The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. One of my huge Doctor Who pet peeves is the Doctor’s growing hubris. I could manage it in seasons 2-4 because everybody and their dog was calling the Doctor out when he went too far, but it just kind of stopped in season 5 and the Doctor threw out more and more lines about how great or scary he was.

What I love about Nine is that he’s humble. What? you ask. The man who told us “I am so impressive!” is the most humble? Yes. Despite his “devil may care” blustering, Nine carries a huge burden of guilt and he constantly questions whether or not he has the authority to make big decisions when lives are at stake. It’s no coincidence that Harriet Jones pulls the “I’m the only elected official” card in World War Three to tell the Doctor to save the world even if she and Rose might die, or that when the Doctor acts unilaterally to let the Gelth posses corpses in The Unquiet Dead, he’s wrong, or that his actions to free the human race from the brainwashing news just leads to societal collapse and allows the Daleks a place to lie in wait, or that he’s spared from deciding Blon’s fate in Boomtown by the TARDIS. It all leads to his decision in front of the Daleks: Coward or killer? Do I have the right to decide who lives and dies? His answer is no, I don’t (then Rose saves the day).

In keeping with his personality, it would be totally out of character for him to boast of his reputation to scare away the monsters. Instead, we get this beautiful inversion of the Monster in the Closet Doctor/Parent figure scaring away the monsters by virtue of title:

DOCTOR: Amazing.

NANCY: What is?

DOCTOR: 1941. Right now, not very far from here, the German war machine is rolling up the map of Europe. Country after country, falling like dominoes. Nothing can stop it. Nothing. Until one, tiny, damp little island says no. No. Not here. A mouse in front of a lion. You're amazing, the lot of you. Don't know what you do to Hitler, but you frighten the hell out of me. Off you go then do what you've got to do. Save the world.

Instead of an “I’m the Doctor! Monsters are scared of me!” line, we get the Doctor saying ‘the monsters are scared of you.’ Then, he says he himself is frightened of humans. That’s an odd thing to say, since Nine doesn’t act frightened of humans and seems to just love them, until you consider the thematic implications. Who’s scared of the humans? The monsters.

The Doctor from ‘Dalek’ is calling.

The Doctor considers himself to be one of the monsters, even if he’s trying to atone for his past. He’s desperately avoiding whatever reputation’s left after the Time War and doesn’t pull that card until he’s facing a Dalek army. I am so so so grateful we got this line, instead of a line about how great the Doctor is.

The bad guy is not actually malicious, just following its nature: The monster is always something real here, but it’s never properly evil. I do like a good “the aliens just have different needs than humans” plot. That said, it can get predictable when you know there’s going to be a twist coming. I like the twists less and less as the episodes go on.

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances: The monster is the child! Sort of: the good-at-healing but bad-at-AI nanogenes made Jamie and everyone else a monster since they didn’t know what they were going for as they repaired the humans.

The Girl in the Fireplace: Arguably the most sinister on this list, the droids aren’t malicious, just trying to repair their ship with re-purposed body parts because they broke down. Not evil, just following incomplete AI instructions like our Nanogenes. This was the only thing I liked in this episode. At least the monsters had a reason they were obsessed with Reinette, unlike the stalker-y actions the Doctor took that were supposed to be 100% okay, even though he criticized the Robots for doing that?

Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead: The Vasta Nerada are creepy and eat people, but it’s just because their forest was pulped and they came here in the books! They just want to be left in peace to hunt like normal predators.

The Eleventh Hour: This one doesn’t fit quite so neatly. However, it should be noted that the primary danger in the episode doesn’t come from the bad guy, Prisoner Zero, but the cops looking for him who are willing to boil the earth. They’re not evil, just callous and need to be reminded of proper boundaries.

The Beast Below: The weird scorpion stingers are just the Starwhale! It loves children. It doesn’t even care about being tortured for centuries and will keep driving everyone through space.

Night Terrors: George is monster! That is, he’s the one causing the creepy stuff to happen because he’s an alien who stressed out about the parents he brainwashed abandoning him. I guess that’s sci fi for you?

With the exception of Blink, all of the monsters are shown as innocent, if dangerous. They just need to put their energy in a different direction. It’s not until Victory of the Daleks that Moffat breaks the mold. Why? The punchline of “Monster in the Closet” stories is that the monsters are real and scary, but not evil, just following their nature. Daleks fall into the “these are actual bad guys” category, not the misunderstood monster. (Which is kinda funny, because it’s been established that Daleks are genetically engineered to kill and hate. They may be a Nazi analogue, but Nazis were people who chose evil. The Daleks are bred to hate and exterminate--note what happens to the “impure” dalek in Dalek and Evolution of the Daleks: they don’t kill people, and then they die.)

My biggest beef with these episodes that they’re all relatively close together, so it’s easy to notice the overlap. When Moffat uses almost the exact same line in one episode as in the previous episode, I notice. When he uses the same mask design, I notice. When he has a constantly repeated line and does it again, I notice. Even before I waded into anti Moffat stuff, I noticed a shift at the end of season 4. I attributed it to a new cast since I just couldn’t click with anything. Then, I learned there was a new writer, and found out he had also written my least favorite episode of New Who (The Girl in the Fireplace).

After writing this, I can’t help but parrot what I’ve heard elsewhere: Moffat’s trying to write a fairytale. A lot of the people and dangers feel more like archetypes than people, and the dialogue is witty but often unnatural--nobody goes around bantering like that all the time. The villains are identified by their form just as much as what they intend to do. There’s also this weird idolization of childhood and the innocent child. I don’t like it much. I’m more of the Coraline, Witches of Worm, Egyptian Game, and Wrinkle in Time mold, where the kids are just as realized and human as their adult counterparts and can lack empathy and be as creepy as adults. Alternatively, I’ll take Shannon Hale’s fairy-tale retellings where the bad guys are people and the solution involves personal courage and collaborative effort. (Moffat can keep his Day of the Doctor maypole children, and I will keep Chloe the scribbler, even if her episode was a little off).

My rating for these episodes, from least to most favorite:

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances: Love Christopher Eccleston’s performance and was very creeped out by the child monsters. The solution to the problem was implied but not obvious so I didn’t get it until I was supposed to. I didn’t enjoy the introduction of a love triangle or the constant innuendo, but at least it was gone in an episode. Also, I will never not fangirl over “Everybody Lives!” and its significance to Nine.

Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead: Thoroughly enjoyed these episodes, though I do have things to quibble with (wish Lee was black like Donna’s other romantic interests--she’s got a type and it’s not “gorgeous and can’t speak a word,” among other critical things). Overall, a great episode

The Eleventh Hour, which I enjoyed, but makes me feel weirder and weirder the more I watch it between child/adult Amy, handcuffs and porn references, and the annoying “prisoner zero has escaped” mantra, plus “I’m the doctor! The earth is protected! I also didn’t like the repeat of comatose people sitting up and saying things. It was good the first time, not so much the second. Funny, but also uncomfortably awkward and creepy, and not in the “are you my mummy” way.

The Beast Below, which felt like it was recycled from earlier tropes to me. Maybe if Liz 10 wouldn’t have had the GitF porcelain mask, I wouldn’t be as tempted to compare it to other Monster in the Closet episodes. Overall, just meh.

The Girl in the Fireplace, which rubs me wrong in every way, except for the droids cannibalizing crew to save the ship--what does that say about me and the episode? I will not rewatch this episode willingly.

#anti moffat #analysis #dw meta #amelia pond #the girl in the fireplace #9th doctor #ninth doctor #10th doctor #tenth doctor #11th doctor #even if this is moffat analysis #i feel like it's too anti to tag it with a plain moffat tag #doctor who #doctor who meta #the monster in the closet

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Nancy Drew 1x17

It is the first episode post solving the Tiffany and Lucy cases and Nancy Drew is going strong. I can’t believe this show will end after tonight’s episode, I feel robbed.

So we open with one of the more devastating scenes of the show. Nancy has just had her world ripped out from under her and is feeling so utterly betrayed she is referring to her parents by their first names. Carson is trying to make her understand that he was trying to do the right thing and also honor Lucy’s dying wish.

This has just thrown absolutely everything into question for Nancy, she’s even back to wondering why her dad sent her away the night her mom died, worried Kate might’ve had a change of heart and wanted to tell Nancy the truth. I don’t really have much to say about it except all the kudos to Kennedy and Scott like this was one of the best scenes all season, and also the crew members because the filming was spot on.

Now I am of course devastated that Nancy’s first instinct was to go to Owen but you know what he’s dead now (thank God) so that’ll never happen again.

It’s George’s family this episode and we got to meet her second sister, Charlie. I was starting to wonder if she was ever going to appear. You know who else appeared?

VICTORIA.

HAHAHA. SHE’S BACK.

“Ignore her.” “Don’t ignore me!”

She remains an icon.

About that scene with Carson’s tires, I’m very curious who put nails in them. My first instinct was Nancy because she wouldn’t have wanted her dad to follow her, but she was in a hurry so I doubt she had time or forethought to put nails in all four tires. It’ll be interesting to see if anything comes out of this. Also it was such a touching moment when he told Nick that Kate would’ve been happy with what he’s done with his life.

Oh hey it’s Lisbeth. Been a while since we’ve seen her.

Why do these people keep mentioning Portland like it’s right next door. They live in Maine.

Also the hauntings freaked me out man. Like they were so disgusting, especially Ace’s first one and both of Bess’s. Like I was expecting Ace to get dragged into the sink or something I was not expecting a severed finger.

And the fact that Victoria greets Bess with “Hi Bessie! What’s up?” makes me so happy and strengthens my theory that she will eventually take Bess on as some sort of supernatural apprentice. And since my daughter Dead Lucy was mentioned it brings me hope that she will continue to make appearances in this show.

Watching Ryan and Nancy this episode was awesome. Nancy knowing what she does about Ryan, and Ryan obsessing over Lucy, being worried his dad may have physically hurt her, trying to track down a baby. And Nancy’s car is indeed a moped with a roof I have never seen it described so accurately. While I’m anxious that Nancy remains a Drew, because she is Nancy Drew, and Carson is her father, I also want her to have a good relationship with Ryan. Granted neither of them are ready for it yet but I can’t wait until they are. One of my future ideal scenarios is Nancy (and friends) are caught in some deathly scenario and Ryan and Carson have to team up to save her and grudgingly come to respect each other and bond over their shared love for Nancy. That is the dream folks.

For some reason I think I shipped George and Nick more before they got together? When it was good old fashioned mutual pining. Is that just me being blinded by my Nancy x Nick goggles? I’ll probably have to work on that.

New topic, I think I almost cried when I saw that one dude scraping off Chief McGinnis’ name on the captain’s door.

And for the record you notice how both Bess and Ryan assumed the portents were coming from Dead Lucy? This feeds into my theory that there are multiple ghosts running around Horseshoe Bay and Lucy gets the rap for all of it cause she’s the most famous. The episode I’m pointing too the most is that one where Nancy broke into the morgue, Ace said it was haunted by Dead Lucy. Three kids broke in, one died one went crazy and one went missing. I’d be interested in seeing Nancy and Co square up against that ghost.

When Ryan said there were pros and cons to Owen dying Nancy and I both lost our shit, but Nancy was furious and I was cackling. Like one of Ryan’s funniest moments all season.

I am curious why Owen was so out of the loop on the Aglaeca stuff this episode. Like he told them about the fish hooks in his hand but didn’t know they were doing a ritual. It begs the question of why not?

That fancy looking dude who Nick bumped into is totally going to be important later. Mayhap he’s the one who murdered Owen??

I AM HERE FOR NICK CALLING NANCY OUT OF CONCERN.

This is what I am reduced to. Grabbing for these non existent moments.

Ryan Hudson is constantly driving fast and I worry this foreshadows an accident on his part. And Nancy’s words upsetting him to the point of tears? I felt that. I would’ve also been upset if someone told me I would’ve made a horrible parent to my dead girlfriend’s child. And the actor mentioned trying hard throughout the season to keep Ryan redeemable since he knew this moment was coming, so I’m looking forward to seeing how his arc unfolds. And the way he loved Lucy just pains me to see. Like he recognized her baby photo in Nancy’s baby photo, 19 years later and he still remembers that specific look Lucy got when she was figuring things out. Like despite all my best efforts my heart just breaks for him. Him knowing that Lucy died thinking he abandoned her? Like that just kills me.

But can we take a second to imagine this from George’s POV for a second? The guy she had an affair with whose wife died because Lucy Sable’s brother was trying to kill him, is her friend’s dad. Like that has to be a shocker.

I was absolutely mesmerized by the ritual scene. Nancy was just in so much pain, physically and emotionally, and Ryan feeling fatherly feelings for the first time in his life. Seeing this young woman, his daughter, crying out in pain and wanting to stop it. Poetic cinema.

HAHAHA Bess immediately pointing out that George slept with Nancy’s dad my girl came through. Unfortunately though I am sensing we received a glimpse of how her and Lisbeth’s relationship will end. On the one hand I want Bess to have a family, esp since her mother and family back in England want nothing to do with her, I just wish her family wasn’t so obviously evil and backstabby.

Victoria’s first reaction demanding to know what they did wrong was hysterical. It’s also not unreasonable since the ring/mirror ritual for Tiffany was even simpler and they managed to screw that up.

I’m going to be entirely honest with you guys. I cheered when Owen died.

With that out of the way the entire last few minutes, starting with when Bess got her portent, were perfection. The music, the lighting, the camerawork, the acting.

Onward to the season finale!

Apparently they picked one of the more violent spirits to make a deal with. You would think Owen being dead (no matter who killed him) would appease it in some way but no no. She’s coming to kill them all. (I’ll get my review for that episode up later tonight.) I can’t wait to see what costume and makeup does when we finally meet the Aglaeca in The Clue in the Captain’s Painting.

#Nancy Drew #Nancy Drew cw #George Fan #Bess Marvin #Ned Nickerson #Carson Drew #Lucy Sable #Dead Lucy #Nick x Nancy

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Think of a movie and now give me that movie title: random Elvira: Mistress of the Dark

Quote a line from that movie:

Name a song: random MARUV & Boosin — I Want You

What’s a line from that song? Baby turn me, turn me on All night long What’s the last word spelled backwords of that line? GNOL XD Whats the relationship between you and the last person you texted? my fiancee What would your name be if you replaced T’s with S’s & A’s with E’s? Zuzenne Would you ever legally change you name to that? nah Your boyfriend/girlfriend say they can’t hang out & it’s been two weeks. You? ok How often do you think about death? all the time Where were you when you had your first sleepover? Your house or a friends’? friend’s - P.W.

Are you hungry?: thirsty

What did you buy last time you went to the store?: food? bread not food? trinkets - for example - two books and a tiny stuffed dog

Do you think stained glass windows are pretty?: I don’t know tbh

Are you a chocoholic?: not at all

Have you ever been carded when buying something? : not even when I was buying cigarettes

Do you have a favorite highlighter color?: yellow

Do you have a flashlight?: I do

Do you like watermelon?: nah

Has anyone ever walked in on you while you were on the toilet?: obvi, many times but usually just family members

Do you like a lot of ice in your drinks?: noooo

Have you ever painted a room?: bathroom Have you ever petted a donkey? from what I remember

Out of all 24 hours, which one is your favourite? hmm... Have you ever been in a lighthouse? nope

What time are you planning on going to bed tonight? no idea Have you ever been bit by an animal? yeah Did it rain today? kinda What was the name of the last dog you pet? it was my dog - Łasuch Do you find that you have a certain meal you eat every time you go to certain restaurants? sure Are you constantly judging people? could say so Have you ever had anything stolen from you? sorta Which would you rather, a snowy day, sunny day, rainy day or cloudy day?: cloudy or sunny maybe rainy but definitely not snowy How long have you ever spent away from home? month? Has your luggage ever been lost at the airport? Did you get it back? - About how many times during the night do you wake up from your sleep? few Are there any air fresheners in your house? What kinds? no What scent of candle do you burn the most? we don’t For what reason did you last cry? ugh... What kind of surveys do you wish there were more of? deep

Last time you were attacked by an animal? this summer? Are you paranoid all the time or just during the night? more often during the day actually Have you ever dated someone without knowing their name? last name, not first, I was a stupid kid and was dating a guy online once and several boys at camp just to show off somebody likes me that way even tho I wasn’t really interested nor knew anything about those matters

If you go to an all-you-can-eat buffet, how much do you really eat? a tiny bit If you need to ask a question in class do you raise your hand? of course How many times have you been engaged (if any at all)? once, currently Do you have to see something to really believe it? jak niewierny Tomasz - często Have you ever gotten so dehydrated that you passed out? I’m surprised that I didn’t :x If your friend was being cheated on, would you tell them? absolutely Do you always assume the worst? that me indeed Are you sick and tired of life? sadly Have you ever been busted for under age drinking? I wasn’t drinking underage, I still don’t drink Do you have a picture of you and your lover kissing? 1 and a tik tok Have you witnessed a fight at school? bunch

What is your favorite time of day to run? when I’m late for the bus lmfao

When was the last time you talked to your mom? recently Do your parents crush your dreams? sometimes Did you sleep in today? I didn’t Do you hate sleeping in? I love sleeping in How late do you consider too late to sleep in? noon, 11am is already late How long have you had a smartphone? less than 5 years Do you keep lists of names that you like? even tho I don’t want kids :P Have you ever butt-dialed someone? it happened

First letter of the names of everyone you have kissed, like *that*; M.

Do you like going to school sports games? eww, boring Have you ever worn your boyfriend’s clothes? guy from camp gave me his cap for a day Have you ever stolen your sibling’s clothes? I had to wear them when she was growing up, gross Have you ever loved someone and HATED it? later? Do you like Starbucks or would you rather just have water or something? just water lol Have you ever walked into a door before? po maturze zapomniałam, że woźny zamknął drzwi, które się same otwierały i walnęłam w nie, raz przytrzepałam sie w futrynę bo za szybko skręciłam w nocy do pokoju, mama uderzyła mnie drzwiami jak byłam mała i stałam za blisko wejścia dzwoniąc do domu więc spadłam ze schodów, a ojciec stuknął mnie tymi dworcowymi przy wiadukcie i wylałam na siebie sok - to chyba wszystkie przypadki Do you know anyone who’s like, psycho-religious? fanatic? my uncle is one of those Have you ever been stuck on a ski lift? luckily never been there to begin with Do you know who Nancy Sinatra is? ain’t this the gal who sings “those boots were made for walking” or smth like that? Have you ever bought anything from an airport? I wasn’t there so... If I asked you who you were gonna marry a year ago, you would say; omg Do you snore, talk, sleepwalk, or drool? drool at times, sorry also roll/kick around and fart ^^” When you woke up this morning, what was your first thought? I was wondering why Nat fronted If you could start completely over knowing what you do now, would you? possibly

If you drink coffee, do you have a favorite flavor & brand? If so, what? not applicable Have you ever personally known a pair of Conjoined twins? woah What is your first thought when you see people kissing in public? "get a room” Would you ever consider being a professional stunt-person? I have no abilities/skills/health etc for that kind of job and it’s really sad actors get prizes for stunt-ppl’s work

How about a Mailman? my father was and that ruined his body so I doubt it (Besides Hello kitty) Do you have a favorite Sanrio character? If so, Who? Hello Kitty is evil Do you flinch when strangers touch you? don’t touch me! Can you remember the first time you went to a movie theater? I believe Is there something in particular you like to look at photos of? What is it? I have strange interests... Do you actually like the taste of Diet Soda? didn’t try and don’t plan to What brand of toliet paper do you normally use? I don’t give a shit ;) Do the Charmin bears make you feel uncomfortable? xD fact that they’re red makes me uneasy On average, how many cans of soda would you say you drink daily? zero Did/do you ever stick your chewed -up gum under tables? I spat it on grass when I was younger and had stuck it in my hair years before as well but every other gum I trashed properly Can you remember the last thing you watched on the news that upset you? that’s why I avoid news How do you feel about red lipstick, is it whorish? it’s my fav but I no longer use makeup What is your definition of feminism? fighting for equal rights between women and men like pay in workplaces Are you comfortable in shorts? am not So, have you watched that Bob’s Burgers show? Do you like it? fragments

Do you ever get the feeling you dont belong? always Do you believe actions speak louder than words? good actors will use both ways to lie

If your friend tried to commit suicide infront of you how would you react? how, why, who, when etc. Ever had a rumour spread about you? plenty Have you ever tried to impress someone before? majority of my life and I hate myself for that If someone jumped on your back what would you do? die? If you had a child and they turned out just like you would you be happy? poor kid... If you could choose the gender of your child what gender would you choose? not that I want kids but girl

Name three people you want to meet in Heaven. from those who died or are alive rn?

What could be the theme song of your life? I was taking a quiz today and they gave me Kero Kero Bonito - I'd Rather Sleep

Do you have any embarrassing health issues? :( Who do you wish you could talk to? grandma and/or brother Do you lose or misplace things a lot? very rarely lose, misplace more often but still usually same item like my scissors What was the name of the street you grew up on (if you don’t live there now) I live here! Does it still feel like summer where you live? it’s too cold for that Do you have a Paypal account? I wish Have you ever had a brand or company reach out to you on Instagram? polyvore What is the last thing you purchased from Etsy? I have no bank account to be able to buy stuff there Do you sell on Etsy? I’d like to someday Do you have a favorite aunt, and if so, who is it? aunt Alice Who is your favorite cousin? no one Have you bought next year’s calendar yet? yup What year did/will you turn 30? 2022 What’s a food that you like, but it makes you feel sick? no comment Do you like the name Addison? sounds like a shoe Is there anything that you regret getting rid of? ... Have you ever stood up to a bully? couple of times Do you own striped tights? nude and transparent Have you ever made your own Halloween costume out of clothes from ur closet? yep When was the last time you received a hug? this day Do you have anyone who hugs you regularly? dad? Would you rather have the bottom bunk or top bunk? bottom Window seat or aisle seat? window, aisle if in church Have you ever thrown up on an airplane? that’s one of the reasons I won’t fly Have you ever seen anyone else throw up on an airplane? that’s another... Have you ever gotten sick in the car? almost Do you still wear clothes from the children’s section? whoops you got me What color is your watch? I need to buy watch for Nat... What color was the last pair of flip-flops you wore? last time I was wearing flip flops was before middle school and they were pink I suppose Were you born in your favorite season? in the worst! Have you eaten oatmeal lately? regularly... Do you enjoy editing photos? if not a snapchat filter selfie then I prefer them “natural” What is your favorite app on your phone? Choices forever! lately I begun playing The arcana and it’s pretty good, Lisa downloaded Addams family mystery mansion or smth but it’s not that cool and I used to play the detective story which was awesome <3 Do you answer your phone every time it rings? hell no Do you like to decoupage things? scrapbooks/collages are way better How many tabs are open on your browser right now? 9 with this one but I forgot to close the background music

How many times have you had sex within the past two years? Guesstimate? personal How many times in a month do you go to the movies? How much do you spend? not at all

When was the last time you heard thunder? Where were you at anyway? this month? home When was the last time you were in trouble with your parents? If so. it’s complicated Do you know anyone who claims to have the ability to see the future? I have dreams that come true and my parents do, also my gf When you go to the movies, do you actually watch the movies or not? ... what else would I do in the cinema? oh, you mean kiss and such? waste of money Do you love or loathe the Eurovision? I don’t mind it Have you ever wielded a sword? wanna try :D If you were famous would you want a statue or a building names after you? what for Can you erect a tent? hope I didn’t forgot How tall is the tallest person you know? didn’t ask Have you ever ridden a camel? might try What’s your opinion on rats? cute

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eddiebillysteve · 2 years

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every breath you take

(( stalker!billy au )) chapter one of ?

pairing | billy hargrove/steve harrington

summary | Billy loves Steve, hanging around his house and making himself comfortable - Steve just doesn't know it yet. (OR Someone requested a stalker!billy drabble and now I'm writing more parts to it.)

a/n | as said in the summary, a very kind anon requested some stalker!billy content and now i've written a part two! before the stars is the original drabble. find it on ao3 here !! feel free to request dark/dead dove content :')

warnings | billy is stalking/obsessed with steve like mad here, so be prepared for extreme possessiveness, jealousy issues, threats of violence (against other people), toxic behaviour, etc !!

That was the real reason why he liked being over to the Harrington house so much.

The guy was hopelessly heterosexual or a proper idiot, and Billy was banking on the later.

He was having a very rough day, a fresh bruise blooming on his cheek from the fist of his father, when he heard it.

Laughter. A girl’s laughter.

Nancy Wheeler’s laughter.

He crept to the fence surrounding the Harrington’s backyard and looked through the tiny hole he’d made a few months prior. The world suddenly turned red at what he saw.

It should have been him. He should have been the once pressing into Steve, holding his arm.

Steve belonged to him.

It wasn’t just the two of them, though. The older Byers kid was there, too, and he was also laughing and taking pictures of the pair of them.

He tried to calm down by adding up the facts in his head.

For her sake, he hoped it was true. He wouldn’t let anyone come between him and his lover, even if said lover didn’t know they were together yet, especially not Nancy Fucking Wheeler.

It’d be such a tragedy for the entire town if a bright young girl with so much potential wound up floating in the Quarry.

It made him feel sick. She was such a little priss in school, yet here she was, basically ready to star in a porno with her ex for Byers’ camera.

They were destined to be together. Steve just didn’t know it yet. But he’d find out one day soon, and Billy would convince him they were soulmates whether he liked the fact or not.

This was Jonathan Byers being a pervert and Nancy Wheeler being a slut and he couldn’t let his sweet boy be tarnished by their poison.

***

“Well, well, well. Someone’s looking rather sad. Wheeler get back with you only to dump your ass again, Harrington?”

Billy reached out and shut the locker Steve was in front of to be able to get a proper look at him. He was looking as beautiful as ever, hair freshly washed and a sweater he kept hung up in his closet on. It was one he didn’t wear often, one that his auntie had given him as a gift the previous Christmas, and he wondered why he suddenly decided to wear it.

“Piss off, Hargrove. Really not in the mood,” Steve’s voice oozed frustration, long fingers immediately yanking the locker back open.

For a moment, Billy was taken aback. He hadn’t been expecting him to be in a genuine bad mood when he hadn’t been in months. All at once his mind was consumed with thoughts of why he could have been in a bad mood. If someone had hurt his boy, had even just upset him, he’d kill them without a second thought.

“Was just messing around, sweetheart,” His voice didn’t give him away and he shoved his hands into the pockets of his jean jacket so Steve wouldn’t see how they curled into fists. His mind was reeling with possibilities, every single one including Steve getting hurt somehow. He didn’t like it one bit. “Oh, come on, Stevie. Lighten up, would ya?” His words were softer then, though, gentler and kinder. Kind enough that Steve pulled his eyes away from the contents of his locker to look at him.

It took everything in Billy not to grab his face and yank him in for a kiss. He had no idea how alluring he was, how difficult he made it to stay away from him. It wasn’t Billy’s fault that he couldn’t resist him; if Steve wasn’t so perfect, he wouldn’t have been so bloody in love with him.

“What’s up with you? Bothering you is no fun if you just stand there and take it.”

Normally Billy would have faked a pout, would have mocked him, but his voice was still genuine, still soft. There was concern there, worry even.

Because he was worried. He was worried that someone had hurt his boy without his permission.

“As if you even want to hear it,” Steve scoffed, rolled his eyes, his attempt at maintaining normalcy when Billy wasn’t acting mean.

“Try me.”

Steve’s eyes widened. Billy wondered if he was going to burst into tears because someone, even if it was just Billy Hargrove, wanted to listen to what he had to say. He didn’t know yet that Billy wanted to hear everything he had to say every single day for the rest of their lives, and that he already knew so much about his shitty parents that hadn’t done anything but shout at him every now and then since he was five years old, and how hurt he got when he had to pretend laugh at the jokes everyone made about him being stupid.

Billy would never call him stupid. He wanted to cover him in kisses and remind him he was the most intelligent man he’d ever met in between each one.

“I think someone’s been following me,” Steve leaned in closer to Billy, not wanting anyone to overhear. “Even breaking into my place. A lot of my shit is just gone.”

For half a second, Billy debated on panicking. The thought came just as quickly as it left, though, and was replaced with one about how he could use the situation to his advantage. Steve may have thought someone was obsessed with him, but he didn’t know who.

Billy could swoop in, be his protector. Save him from the scary people breaking into his place, scare away whoever it was that was following him.

Of course, he was the one who was breaking in and following him constantly, so Steve wasn’t in any real danger, but the clueless boy would never know it.

Perhaps he’d even invite him over for the first time to go on a little lookout for whatever creep was trying to sneak in.

Excitement shot through him. He could be in Steve’s house, in his room, but with Steve. Not on his own, not having to keep an ear open for any cars arriving home early, no sneaking around and tiptoeing on the specific floorboards that he knew didn’t creak when his parents did happen to show up.

He hid his thoughts from showing on his face, eyes flickering over Steve’s pretty features as he listened. “You sure you haven’t misplaced it or anything? Left it in your car?”

“No. I’ve checked everywhere. One of my sweaters is gone, and a few other things,” Steve shook his head.

The other things were underwear, his toothbrush, a bottle of his hairspray and cologne, more underwear, a few condoms. Billy had them all stashed safely in his room. He slept in the sweater Steve was spoke about missing most of the time, wore it with nothing underneath, sometimes even jacked off onto it. If he ever gave it back, ever returned it years down the road when Steve knew about everything and thought it was so cute that Billy just couldn’t resist him, every time he saw Steve in it, all he’d be able to think about would be all the shots of cum that had once upon a time been littered across the same fabric.

“You don’t believe me,” Steve’s face turned sad, but only for a second, before it was filled with anger. “Forget I said anything. Just leave me alone, Hargrove.”

“Relax, amigo. Didn’t say that,” Billy put his hands out in defence, an act of peace. “I’m just thinking of who the hell would be dumb enough to break into a house like yours. Do you not have security systems and shit?”

Billy already knew the answer, obviously— yes, they did have a security system, and Billy knew the code was 04126. It was one of the very first things he’d learned from Steve who had made the mistake of telling Nancy outside the house one day. She’d forgotten something, had to run back in, and he’d gone ahead to get his car started up.

He hadn’t thought anyone had been watching, so he’d called the code out to her.

“Yeah, we do. But I’ve noticed other shit. The towel being moved in the bathroom, an extra glass at the sink that I didn’t use. Stuff like that,” Steve closed his locker to look at Billy properly.

“Well, who do you think did it?” Billy questioned some more. He wanted to see who Steve had on his mind, who he thought his stalker was.

“I don’t know, that’s the thing,” he sighed softly.

“Not Wheeler messing with you, is it?” Hargrove raised his eyebrows a little. “Or one of your little kid friends?”

Steve rolled his eyes. “I doubt it. Nance barely came over when we were together, she has no reason to take my stuff. But—“ he cut himself off, shutting his mouth as an idea seemingly hit him.

“What? You think she’s suddenly interested in you again or something?” Billy was *good* at playing dumb. There wasn’t even the slightest amusement being given away on his face.

“No, but…” he shook his head. “I don’t want to talk about it here.” He gestured with a nod for Billy to follow him. He lead the way out of the school and out into the fresh air. Billy immediately took out a cigarette to light. His body couldn’t be outside without having a cigarette, or so it felt.

“Spill it, amigo. The suspense is killing me here,” he muttered around his smoke, one hand trying to protect the flame as he lit it up.

“Byers. You know, Jonathan. He’s always had a thing for Nance. Maybe he’s trying to be more like me to get her attention or something,” Steve watched Billy’s fingers shake out the flame and push the lighter into his back pocket.

Billy could have squealed with excitement. It was perfect. If he could convince Steve that Jonathan was his stalker, he could kill two birds with one stone, take out both Byers and Wheeler in one go. “Wouldn’t surprise me. He’s always been a fucking creep, perving on girls with that camera,” he muttered. “Careful he doesn’t go perving on you, Harrington. Fuck knows what he’s into.”

“You don’t think he could have a crush on me?” Steve scoffed like it was the most ridiculous thing he’d ever heard.

Billy gave an innocent shrug of his shoulders. “He’s weird and you’re a pretty boy. Don’t tell me you’d actually be surprised if you found out Byers liked you. Dude probably wants to have a go with you and Wheeler at the same time,” he snorted and pulled the cigarette out of his lips to blow out smoke.

Steve’s hands went to his hips, looking irritated and annoyed, but there was a twinge of pink to his cheeks. It was faint, but Billy was sure of it. It was there, the soft pink infiltrating his pale skin, and it was all because Billy had called him pretty.

He’d said it to him plenty of times before, though. But maybe this time was different. Maybe this time Steve could understand that Billy was flirting with him by saying it.

“He can have a crush on whoever he wants to have a crush on. I don’t care. But you don’t just take people’s stuff if you like them,” Steve blurted.

Billy just wanted to squeeze his cheeks and tell him to never change. He was so oblivious and it was the most endearing thing. Billy figured he could drop to his knees before him and Steve still couldn’t understand what he was wanting to do.

It was okay, though, because Steve didn’t even need to have a mind of his own. Billy wanted to take care of everything for him, his every thought and desire and whim. A boy as pretty as his Steve should never have had to lift a dainty finger again in his life.

“You’re right,” Billy said, simply enough. “Maybe you should talk to Wheeler—“

“No. Nance can’t know,” Steve cut him off. “She’ll just say I’m being jealous and ridiculous and that I’m always misplacing things. She just won’t get it.”

On the outside, Billy nodded, inhaling on his cigarette, but on the inside, he was like the cat that got the cream. Soon, Steve would realize how horrible Nancy Wheeler was for him. He’d realize how happy he was that they were over and how lucky he was to have someone like Billy willing to dote on him and love him unconditionally. “Well, what’re you gonna do about it?” He asked, raising his eyebrows.

Steve was silent for a long few moments before letting out a heavy sigh, “I don’t know.”

“Well, Harrington,” Billy finally let his mouth grow into a shit eating grin. “Luckily for you, I do.”

#harringrove #harringrove fic #harringrove au #billy hargrove #steve harrington #dark billy hargrove #tw: stalking #tw: obsession #tw: jealousy #tw: violent thoughts #ANON WHERE ARE YOU #my writing #stalker billy au

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argylemikewheeler · 5 years

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Talk about Karen and Mike’s talk while Ek was upstairs in Mike’s closet

Okay let’s break this down! I love their conversations because it’s such a good moment of dramatic irony– what we know and what Karen understands.

So, we have Mike talking about feeling sick and how, last time, even when he said he was sick Karen still sent him to school– which like, we could totally see as similar to Lonnie making Will go to the baseball game but, we won’t right now. Just gonna put a pin in it and get to the good part:

Karen says: “All this that’s been going on with Will, I can’t imagine what it’s been like for you. I just… I want you to feel like you can talk to me. I never want you to feel like you have to hide anything from me. I’m here for you, okay?”

Now what I love about this scene is that for the audience, all we are supposed to be thinking about is the fact that Eleven is sitting up in Mike’s room. We’re supposed to assume it’s all Mike’s thinking about too, despite the really emotional sentiment from his mom; he’s just worrying about not getting caught. The thing he’s hiding from her is Eleven. But what about Karen? She’s not thinking about Eleven. So with dialogue that fits so well with what we, the audience, know (along with Mike), it’s interesting to consider what Karen is actually speaking to.

Karen’s change in parenting comes, seemingly, after the fight at the dinner table when it’s found out that Nancy might have a new boyfriend and Mike thinks he’s the only one who cares about Will; there’s an evident disconnect between what she’s saying and what her children are hearing. Moreover though, and good on Karen for thinking it, there’s a bigger disconnect on what her kids (aren’t) speaking and what she’s hearing (fuck Ted Wheeler).

Interestingly enough, the parallel of Nancy hiding her New Boyfriend Mister Harrington and Mike thinking he’s the only one who cares the proper amount about Will brings up the idea that Karen isn’t understanding her children’s personal lives– their romantic private lives, in any way that emerges for the two age groups. And, going forward just a second, the other time we see Karen say this similar speech is in the following episode when Nancy comes back from Steve’s: “You can talk to me. Whatever happened.”

Now LET ME put on my clown shoes and just say: Karen is asking her two kids to talk about the same thing here. I mean, very different contexts and content, but the same kind of emotional Coming-Of-Age moments that she wants to make sure her children are sharing with her. Nancy has a sudden new boyfriend-- to which Karen is not stupid about what she was up to the scene prior-- and Mike has a best friend that went missing, and in his absence is suddenly trying to sort through his feelings, saying he’s the only one who cares properly.

Now, in the split of understanding, we know that Mike is looking to find Will and thinks he’s hot on the trail because, well, he’s like, thirteen and thinks he’s indestructible. For the audience, we’re in the same boat; we know there’s something going on, so of course we know that Mike’s going to stumble on something about Will’s disappearance– that’s just how the show works. But Karen literally doesn’t know any of this. She sees her son constantly thinking about his friend and acting really strange and keeping secrets and staying home from school and stuttering and acting manic– she sees the bigger picture here. She thinks her son is dealing with two types of grief and wants him to know she’s there for him.

“I never want you to feel like you have to hide anything from me.” is the most interesting part of this to me, because it isn’t until ep 3 that we see Mike cry about Will, and it’s because he thinks the search is over; he literally remains in peak optimism until something is pulled out of the water. Up until ep 3, Mike isn’t acting mysterious because he’s hiding his grief. No, he’s acting mysterious but still being open about how much he wants to find Will, how much he cares. Karen obviously puts those two thoughts together: her son is hiding why he really wants to find Will so badly. Sure, they’re best friends, but if Mike is thirteen and realizing that the same person that was taken is the same person that made him understand when people talk about crushes, God, Karen “can’t imagine what it’s been like” for Mike.

Also, in a language notation, Karen just says “All this that’s been going on with Will,” which is in no way directly talking about his disappearance. It’s anything going on with Will. Maybe the fact he’s missing, maybe the fact it’s been a day or so, or maybe the fact that him missing is destroying Mike’s world because he’s realized other things. Either way, Karen’s “here for” Mike.

She doesn’t expect him to say anything, I’m sure, but she makes the offer to one child as well as the other. In fact, there’s something to be said that Mike’s scene crying about Will comes when Nancy and Karen are talking to Barb’s parents. Nancy finally opened up and told her mom something about her private life– and here comes Mike doing the same thing, but with far less words. Then again, he doesn’t need anything. His mom already knew, she just needed the permission to know, to not have anything hidden from her anymore.

#analysis #st1 #Karen Wheeler #karen and mike #this is byeler related obviously

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lovemesomesurveys · 4 years

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When was the last time you changed your opinion on somebody? Hmm. It’s been awhile.

When did you last change your opinion on a situation? Recently. My mom just got back from her 3-day vacay with her sister and I was worried about her going because of covid and really didn’t want her to go, but I know this trip was very much needed for her. She most definitely deserves time for herself, she’s always doing SO much for everyone else, but has has very little time for herself to just relax and do what she wants. I want that for her, I just wish she wouldn’t have gone right now, ya know? I believe I was justified in my concern, but I know she was extra cautious and did all the necessary things (wore her mask everywhere, constantly washed her hands, wiped down and sprayed everything, practiced social distancing). I’m glad she had good time, that does make me happy.

Why did you last visit the doctor? I have to visit my pain doctor once a month in order to get my prescription refills.

What was the last thing that made you feel proud and why? I don’t know. :/

Do you like salt? I like salty foods and add a pinch of salt or seasoned salt to some things like eggs, but I don’t crazy with it. There definitely is such a thing as too salty. A little really goes a long way.

Do you think Kurt Cobain was assasinated? No.

Do you feel uncomfortable when people you hardly know confide in you? I’ve honestly had that happen numerous times. People have told me they just feel comfortable to talking to me. It can be uncomfortable because I don’t always know what to say in return, especially since I don’t really know them, but I think a lot of the time they just want someone to lend an ear.

Have you ever regretted what you said in drunken conversation once sober? Yes. It was just embarrassing.

Is there anything coming up which you're dreading? I’m dreading my outing to the doctor on Friday. It’s the only time I leave the house now, so I get really anxious about it.

Anything you're looking forward to? We’re quickly approaching September, so hopefully that means it’ll start to cool down here soon.

Does it annoy you when people wish away their lives? I know people with so much potential, like they’re so smart and had a real chance at doing something big, but they throw it away. For example, I have a cousin who most definitely could have been a pro soccer player, but she threw it away for drugs. It’s really sad and frustrating. I see someone like me, wasting away, but I didn’t have anything going for me. I’m just very average. The people I’m talking about could have really done something great with their lives.

Do you ever do tediuos tasks just to keep your mind occupied? Yes.

Have you ever lived with somebody with truly repulsive habbits? No.

Do you tend to say things because they're appropraite not because you mean them? I wouldn’t say tend to because that sounds like I do it all the time, but in some situations, sure.

What was the last thing to perplex you? Hmm.

What was the last thing to fascinate you? It just trips me out how we’re almost in September like wtf. This has been the longest year, but yet we’re almost down to the last 4 months somehow???

What was the last thing to annoy you? Blehhhh.

When did you last work your socks off fruitlessly? I just remove my socks with my hands it doesn’t take much work.

When did your hard work last pay off? What hard work?

Did you hate it when people patronised you when you were a child? I hate when it happens now as an adult.

What is a word you hate? The C word and the P word.

Do you have a favourite childrens book? Various Little Golden Books, The Berenstain Bears, Little Critter, and Amelia Badelia when I was little and then as I got older I was super into books like Goosebumps, Nancy Drew, The Babysitter’s Club, Ramona and Beezus, and various others.

If yes, what is it? ^^^^

When did you last feel a need to be alone? I need some alone time everyday.

When did you last "need" to be around people? I spend time with my family everyday as well.

Have you ever been in a job where you didn't fit in with your co-workers? I’ve never had a job.

What do you do to "expand" you mind? Read or read up on/watch videos about something new.

When did you last REALLY want to go out but couldn't for whatever reason? I’d love a nice beach trip, but I just don’t feel safe or comfortable doing so right now.

Do you need a wee right now? No.

Is there a certain noise/sound which scares you? Anything sudden will make me jump. I am twitchy. <<<

When did you last eat sweeties? What are sweeties? Unless you’re just referring to sweets in general, in which case my go-to lately has been a spoonful of frost lmao.

Do you have a favourite micro-organism? No.

What was the last thing to upset you? My cousin wasn’t feeling well yesterday so she made an appointment to get tested for covid as a precaution today and I’m just worried about her and also the fact she was around my mom a few days ago (she was the one who took my mom and my aunt (her mom) to the airport). My mom got home last night from her trip and now we’re just really praying that my cousin isn’t sick and in turn didn’t affect my mom, who would have then affected me, my brother, and my dad. She wasn’t the one who picked up my mom and aunt yesterday from the airport at least. My cousin has been pretty lax during this pandemic, so I am worried.

What was the last thing to make you happy? Hmm.

Have you ever eaten chocolate for breakfast? “Candy? For breakfast? Not candy, Reese’s Puff Cereal!” anyone remember that commercial? haha.

Do you like balloons? Sure.

Out of the people you know, who's birthday is next? My mom’s is next month.

Does that person have any plans to celebrate their birthday? Not a whole lot we can do, unfortunately. We’ll likely just get her favorite takeout and maybe a rent a movie at home.

Do you enjoy swimming? No.

When will you next go to the beach? (if you know) I don’t know D:

When at the beach do you like to swim in the sea? (weather permitting) Noooo. I like to be near the water, but you won’t ever catch me in it. If you have pet fish do you bother to name them? I don’t have any fish.

Do you like adventure games like Monkey Island and Diskworld? I haven’t played those two specifically, but yeah I loved games like that as a kid.

Did you ever read the Terry Pratchet "Disk World" books? I’ve never read them.

If yes to the question above, what are they like? Have you had to change a nappy lately? Ew, nooo.

Do you find your batteries always run out right when you need them most? Super annoying.

Would you like a holiday about now? Ugh, I wish.

What's stopping you from going on holiday right now? (if you want to) Covid, mainly.

Do you keep your eggs in the fridge? (Assuming you eat eggs that is) Yes. It’s weird to me to think of storing them anywhere else.

Have you ever owned chickens? No.

Do you like classical music? Some.

When did you last listen to music? A couple days ago.

Have you ever seen "Canibal the Musical"? No.

Are your breasts sore? No. That’s how you’re gonna end the survey?

#personal #text #survey #surveys

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The ‘parentification’ of Jonathan Byers (psych analysis)

“Parentification is defined as the phenomenon where children take caregiving responsibilities (acting as a parent) for their parents, siblings or other family members, at the expense of their own developmental needs.”

When can parentification occur?

1) After a “Divorce”

“If there is more than one child in the family, usually the eldest, is “chosen” to be parentified .When a father-figure is missing, it may be the eldest son who is forced to take on his father's responsibilities.”

2) When there’s a “parent with a mental illness “

3)“Parental alcoholism or drug addiction.” (lonnie’s place covered in beer cans could allude to this).

4) “siblings with a mental illness’

5) “Death of a sibling or parent” ( This point is kind of cheating - but the fact Jon as a 15 y old had to plan a funeral, for his little brother instead of either one of his parents just illustrates how he always was forced to do adult duties much too young.)

6) “mothers of low socio-economic status, are frequently associated with parentification of their children. “

“given the fact that there are many single parent families, it falls upon children from some of these homes to carry adult responsibilities while their parent is out working. Often, in these situations, the parent is asking or expecting the child to take on adult responsibilities in their absence. They become the parent of the household in the interim between coming home from school and when the parent returns to the household.”

***TO MAKE THINGS VERY CLEAR: we are NOT hating on Joyce, here! “The harm of parentification is usually done not out of malicious intent. However, when a child who is supposed to go through their natural cycles of development and self- evolution, is forced to grow up too quickly, there is a cost.” But, Joyce did what she had to do being a poor single mother - she had to work! Even when Lonnie was around- he had debts. And Joyce apologized to Jon for not being around when they were growing up (working since he was 5)- and she even mentioned working Hollidays . But at the end of s1, we see her celebrating Christmas eve with them (showing she’s trying to have a better work life balance for her kids and prioritize them more). I think Will’s disappearance gave Joyce a wake-up call of sorts about what she values most-her kids.She loves her kids more than anything- and would never intentionally do any harm. She has to work for all of them to survive and stay together. But it did force Jon to be parent to Will in her absence (especially cause Lonnie even when around wasn’t much help).

And in s3 it’s hinted Joyce plans to be there for her kids on Thanksgiving and Christmas- so she is trying to rectify past behaviors. Ok with that out of the way, now we can continue...

Types of Parentification

“Parentification can either be emotional or instrumental, or both.”

“EMOTIONAL PARENTIFICATION : is when the child becomes a source of constant emotional support to their parent or sibling.Emotional parentification often involves a child or adolescent taking on the role and responsibilities of confidant, secret keeper, or emotional healer for family members.”

“ Parentification can also be the the process of role reversal where a child is obliged to act as parent to their own parent. Examples being: Listening to a parent talk about their problems.Serving as a confidante for their parent or providing emotional comfort and support to a parent.”

“In cases of INSTRUMENTAL PARENTIFICATION: children take on practical responsibilities such as:Taking care of siblings or other relatives because a parent is unable to. Assuming housekeeping duties, such as cleaning, cooking, grocery shopping. And Paying bills and attending to other household tasks .”

“ It’s good for kids to have responsibilities such as chores around the house or babysitting for a younger sibling. Responsibilities should increase when a child becomes a teenager to prepare them for being on their own eventually. However, when a young child is responsible for , paying the electricity bill, or raising a younger sibling, that is when problems arise.”

“Imagine a child who is bombarded every day with the responsibilities to tuck in sisters or brothers, or read them bedtime stories; organize drinks or food, wash up dishes, pay bills, or a myriad of housework. When burdened with that many responsibilities, self-care tends to go out the window. If the child continues to attend school, they may be withdrawn, unkempt, and visibly exhausted.”

“The effects are worsened and more destructive for the development of the child, the more the care-giving efforts of the child become a normalized expectation.“

We see this in Joyce berating Jon for not parenting Will, properly (although her being upset was somewhat reasonable). But ,we also see this in how Joyce says Jonathan has “always been good at taking care of himself.” Assuming Jon is ok, when he’s actually not. While Lonnie simply insults Will saying “he was never good at taking care of himself.” The difference being Joyce criticizes Jon for not relying on her more. While Lonnie critiques Will for simply acting like a child and not being self-reliant, like Jonathan. Pretty heavily hinting, Lonnie even when around did very little parenting and expected the kids to take care of themselves. And since Will didn’t ‘take care of himself’ - it probably put the load on Jonathan to parent Will (when Joyce wasn’t around, even when Lonnie was physically there).

Consequences of Parentification

“ It is expected that complicated relationship patterns will develop between siblings. The parentified sibling can often develop a symbiotic, codependent relationship with their siblings.”

“These people are very likely to find themselves in similar relational patterns in adulthood. They believe they must serve, help and rescue everyone in need. As adults, they may find that they have a confused sense of self-identity beyond the helper role. The only way they learned to relate, was through being of service and providing caregiving- so it is extremely possible that they have to be the primary caregivers for their own romantic partners . Since they never learned anything different. “

“ The ‘helper role’ might have dominated their entire being. Their sense of self did not get fully developed before they were needed to care for others, so as a result, they don’t know who they are except when they are doing things for others. “

“Parentified children can become very angry people. Sometimes this adult child may not know why they are angry . They can have explosive anger or passive anger, especially when someone triggers their parental wounds of emotional exploitation.”

“Parentified children inevitably develop a distorted image of what love is supposed to be like, thereby growing up to be quite distrustful of interpersonal relationships overall.Complicated attachment patterns emerge as a result. An avoidant attachment style is not unlikely. In the absence of a nurturing provider of safety and care, the parentified child may have learned to utterly depend on themselves alone- thereby avoiding close bonds and intimacy in adult life.intimacy is both craved for and avoided, both a longing and a great threat. Underneath this facade, they are quite lonely.”

This is similar to Jonathan not having friends, ‘not liking most people’, having ‘trust issues’ caused by Lonnie (that caused distrust of Bob, a father-figure) and simply being afraid to talk to people in general. Or joyce calling out Jonathan saying “you act like you’re all alone in this world. But your not.”

‘They also tend to blame themselves for everything that goes wrong, and constantly try to fix things that cannot be fixed.’

“The child may appear highly capable to tend for themselves and others, very mature for their age, resilient and even wise beyond their years- but they lack the safe haven of a secure attachment figure that is vital for the development of emotional regulation.”

A parentified teenager or younger child may exhibit the following symptoms:

-”Anxiety”

Like... this hurt my soul! His face dropped the second Nancy left the room.He probably has anxiety but looks up to Joyce for trying to still be a good mom and keep it together. Why he said “WE’LL be okay” cause his mom is “tough”. He tries to lead by her example. But unlike Joyce, Jon probably always had to keep it together- even if struggling with similar anxiety issues as Joyce. Because he knew they both couldn’t act that way and “shut down” (for Will’s sake). He always had to put on a fake ‘grown-up’ front and keep the family together and help support Joyce and Will emotionally and finacially . And someone (unintentionally) saying the reason he’s like his mom is not because of her positive traits but because of her mental illness- must have HURT! Especially cause he’s probably already struggling with anxiety- and maybe even fears acknowledging it. Because he’s supposed to have it ‘all together.’ “The identity of parentified children actually depends on their ability to suppress their needs. Since it is likely that their family already had too many problems to cope with, and so they learned to be quiet, voiceless and without demands. In order to be a ‘proper helper’ .“

And it probably doesn’t help he’s afraid it could escalate into something worse. Because in s1 they mentioned Joyce’s aunt having hallucinations. And jonathan even says to hopper “she used to have anxiety problems. I’m worried it could be ... I don’t know.” So yeah , Nancy saying him and Joyce have the same anxiety problems probably terrified him.

-”Depression”

-”Inability to trust others (we covered that) and or social isolation.”

-”Compulsively overworking in order to fulfill responsibilities at school and at home.”

-”Feelings of guilt and shame.”

“Fortunately, there are many healing processes and routes to wholeness and recovery for a young adult or adult who has been parentified as a child.Acknowledgment of your past is the first step to healing and recovery (via therapy or other means). You have to accept the truth of your story. Because, if you continue to live in denial, your mental energy will be spent in suppressing the pain that was there, rather than healing what needs to be healed. Being highly self-reliant was your only option in your household , but it may be a strategy that no longer works for you. It keeps you in isolation and unable to connect with others. Therefore, challenging yourself to connect with others authentically would also be considered one of the most potent ways to heal. The thoughts, feelings, impressions, and emotions buried within are waiting to be heard, once and for all. “

Alright, thanks for listening I hope you enjoyed. I really wanted to do a psych analysis strictly based on what the show presents. Rather than inclusion of the s4 movies. I did mention how those movies did allude to Jonathan’s parentification, here (if interested though). I also didn’t go into the hints in the narrative of Lonnie possibly being s****lly abusive to Jonathan cause it’s a bit more speculative ( I did talk about it in my DID psych analyses pt 1 & pt 2 though). Only mentioning it here, at the end, since one of the causes of parentification is also a parent s****lly ab*sing their kids (quite literally stripping their kids of their entire childhood in every way imaginable- and frankly the worst way possible). Regardless,I think most people neglect Jonathan as a character- and the s4 movies hint we’ll finally get more focus on him in the upcoming seasons. So I wanted to dedicate a post to some of Jonathan’s issues that may get more attention in later seasons.

#jonathan byers #will byers #joyce byers #stranger things

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