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sassyhazelowl · 2 months
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Me @ the local exotic bird fair: I'm way too white for this -- oh *gasp* ITS A CHICKEN *immediately bypasses the emus and parrots to see the modern game bantams and old english games in the back*
#my bird talk#its one of those things were you look around and go well someone is the odd one out#it was me#I'm very obviously white super white and woman-presenting#in a large exhibit hall of hispanic and se asian men#it didn't particularly bother me - I mean I lived in Korea for 3 years but I found it funny#the funniest part to me is the chicken sellers were also white women 😂 and they were the only white vendors other than the supply table#white women and hispanic men - biggest fans of chickens unite#I've actually purchased birds from the mom in the mom-daughter duo before#I desperately wanted those chickens tho#and the old english games in the table next to them#2 of my 3 fave chicken breeds the 3rd being sebrights#sadly I purchased 2 diamond doves and that's it#I wanted new colors/blood on the doves and 1-2 button quail roosters#but I was too slow on the button quails and someone else got them while I was buying a dove#next year after I build a bigger aviary and sell most of my canaries I'll try some finches#the new owners of the bird show must be allowing poultry/gamebirds now#b/c there were 2 chicken booths and coturnix and bobwhites and pheasants and mandarin ducks#usually the only birds like that you'd see would maybe be a pair of fancy pigeons or some ringneck doves#the only thing I don't like about that is chickens and ducks carry a lot of yucky things#like theses birds all looked very well taken care of b/c they were clearly showbirds#but I don't know how much vetting they do of the vendors and all it takes is one sick bird
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kedreeva · 5 months
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You mentioned peafowl are on the higher end of omnivorous fowl species. Do they 'prey on' or act aggressive to other farm birds (ducks, chickens, quails, pigeons, so on)? Do things such as farm fowl breeds or temperament affect those interactions?
They don't attack other adult birds as prey or anything, but I have at least one friend who hen to pen his turkeys because the toms and peacocks would get into bloody fights if not. Mine always got on fine with turkey hens, but I never tried to keep any toms with them.
I used to house my peafowl with some bobwhite quail, because you can do that with chickens and they'll clean up spilled feed the chickens scratch out onto the floor. I saw a few standoffs between the bobwhites and the peafowl, but despite weighing 6 ounces, the bobwhites always held their own because peafowl are weenies sometimes. However, I thought at first the quail were just young, and then that they must certainly be stressed, because I didn't get a single egg all summer..... until I caught Eris horking down a whole quail egg one day, and realized I HAD been getting eggs all summer, the damn peafowl had just been eating them as quick as they'd find them. So the quail got their own pen.
I tried putting a couple of coturnix quail in, instead, since their eggs are bigger and more camouflaged. But the peafowl would have straight up killed the adult birds, since the coturnix don't run or fight, so I had to take them out again.
Peafowl can get along with chickens, but the disease transfer between them (chickens to peafowl) can kill peafowl, so most people don't. Early on, while we were still building pens, I had a few chickens in with peas in the first pen and the adults again were fine, and the eggs were too big to eat. ....the bantam chicks, however, were not. They got eaten.
Curiously, the peas always liked the pigeons. I don't know if they ever ate any eggs, but the pigeons kept their babies up in nests until they were Bird Sized, and the peafowl didn't chase them around on the ground, the adults or the fledglings, even when I tossed out grains and seeds for them. They DID eat the carolina wren fledglings that were raised in their coop, despite my best efforts to repeatedly remove that nest before there were eggs. That mom was DETERMINED to have her babies in The Worst Location Ever.
So, will peafowl act aggressive toward other farm fowl? Some of them, in some situations. Will peafowl hunt other smaller farm birds for food and sport? If they're small and defenseless enough.
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puppetmaster13u · 4 months
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So this Au still needs a name, BUT
I have figured out what Most of the pokemon evolved from! It only took uh, lemme look at a clock, a week or three!
For those not interested in clicking a link, it's a pokemon/dc crossover but pokemon is straight up just a Gotham thing. Like, the flora and fauna and everything else have become corrupted/ mutated/ adapted, etc into strange creatures with stranger abilities thanks to the chemicals, magic, death pits, curses, and everything else all mixing together.
So anyway, have a list of what each pokemon originally were before Gotham got a hold of them. Some things brought into Gotham (such as via zoos, museums, or rogues or whatever) and others always there. Do keep in mind I am (mostly) not including Legendaries because I'm still not sure if I want those in the Au yet lol.
Canines 
Vulpix Lines (Foxes) 
Growlithe Lines (Large Dog Breeds) 
Abra Line (Fox) 
Snubbul Line (Bulldog Mix Breed) 
Houndour Line (Medium Dog Breeds) 
Smeargle (Beagle Mix Breed) 
Poochyena Line (Hyena) 
Electrike Line (Maned Wolf) 
Absol (Samoyed Mix Breed) 
Riolu Line (Egyptian Wolf) 
Lillipup Line (Terrier Mix Breed) 
Zorua Lines (Wolf) 
Fennekin Line (Fox) 
Furfrou (Poodle Mix Breed) 
Rockruff Lines (Akita Mix Breed) 
Nickit Line (Red Fox) 
Yamper Line (Small Dog Breeds) 
Fidough Line (Dachshund Mix Breed) 
Greavard Line (Sheepdog Mix Breed) 
Felines 
Meowth Lines (Domestic Cats) 
Eevee Lines (Domestic Cats) 
Skitty Line (Shorthair Cat) 
Shinx Line (Lynx) 
Glameow Line (Domestic Cat) 
Purrloin Line (Domestic Cat) 
Litleo Line (Lion) 
Espurr Line (Folded-Ear Cat) 
Litten Line (Tiger) 
Sprigatito Line (Lynx) 
Rodents 
Rattata Line (Domestic Rat) 
Alolan Rattata (Wild Rat) 
Pikachu Lines (House Mouse) 
Clefairy Line (Chinchilla) 
Azurill Line (Vole) 
Plusle (Long-Eared Woodrat)
Minun (Long-Eared Woodrat) 
Bidoof Line (Beaver) 
Pachirisu (Squirrel) 
Minccino Line (Chinchilla) 
Emolga (Flying Squirrel) 
Chespin Line (Chipmunk) 
Dedenne (Gerbil) 
Togedemaru (Spiny Rat) 
Skwovet Line (Red Squirrel) 
Morpeko (Guinea Pig) 
Pawmi Line (Viscacha)
Tandemaus (Field Mouse)
Birds 
Pidgey Line (Waxwings) 
Spearow Line (Sparrow) 
Doduo Line (Kiwi Bird) 
Magby Line (Duck) 
Hoothoot Line (Horned Owl) 
Togepi Line (Chicken Eggs) 
Natu Line (Quail) 
Murkrow Line (Crows) 
Delibird (Penguin) 
Skarmory (Condor) 
Torchic Line (Chicken) 
Taillow Line (Barn Swallow) 
Wingull Line (Seagull) 
Swablu Line (Lorikeet) 
Piplup Line (Penguin) 
Starly Line (Starling) 
Chatot (Parrot) 
Pidove Line (Pigeon) 
Ducklett Line (Swan) 
Rufflet Line (Eagle) 
Vullaby Line (Vulture) 
Fletchling Line (Robin) 
Spritzee Line (Grosbeak) 
Hawlucha (Raptor Bird) 
Rowlett Line (Owl) 
Pikipek Line (Toucans) 
Oricorio(s) (Honeycreepers) 
Rookidee Line (Corvid) 
Cramorant (Cormorant)
Eiscue (Penguin) 
Quaxly Line (Duck) 
Squawkabilly (Parakeet) 
Wattrel Line (Petrel) 
Flittle Line (Ostrich) 
Bombirdier (Stork) 
Flamigo (Flamingo) 
Reptiles 
Charmander Line (Newt) 
Squirtle Line (Box Turtle) 
Ekans Line (Ringneck Snake) 
Lapras (Sea Turtle) 
Dratini Line (Sea Snake) 
Totodile Line (Alligator) 
Dunsparce Line (Snake) 
Larvitar Line (Spiny Lizard) 
Treecko Line (Leaf-Tailed Lizard) 
Aron Line (Terrapin) 
Torkoal (Snapping Turtle) 
Seviper (Viper) 
Kecleon (Chameleon) 
Turtwig Line (Box Turtle) 
Snivy Line (Vine Snake) 
Sandile Line (Crocodile) 
Scraggy Line (Lizard) 
Tirtouga Line (Sea Turtle) 
Helioptile Line (Frilled-Neck Lizard) 
Salandit Line (Skink) 
Turtonator (Sideneck Turtle) 
Jangmo-o Line (Geckos) 
Sobble Line (Basilisk Lizard) 
Chewtle Line (Snapping Turtle) 
Silicobra Line (Cobra) 
Fuecoco Line (Crocodile) 
Cyclizar Lines (Anole) 
Amphibians
Bulbasaur Line (Toad) 
Poliwag Lines (Tadpool) 
Slowpoke Lines (Salamander) 
Lickitung (Tailed Frog) 
Happiny Line (Axolotl) 
Wooper Lines (Axolotl) 
Bagon Line (Salamander) 
Croagunk Line (Frog) 
Tympole Line (Toad) 
Froakie Line (Frog) 
Toxel Line (Salamander) 
Tadbulb Line (Green Frog) 
Fish & Sealife 
Tentacool Line (Jellyfish) 
Shellder Line (Clam) 
Horse Line (Seahorses) 
Goldeen Line (Goldfish) 
Staryu Line (Starfish) 
Magikarp Line (Karp) 
Omanyte Line (Nautilus) 
Chinchou Line (Anglerfish) 
Qwilfish Lines (Pufferfish) 
Corsola Lines (Coral) 
Remoraid Line (Remoras) 
Mantine Line (Manta Ray) 
Mudkip Line (Mudskippers)
Gulpin Line (Sculpin Fish) 
Carvanha Line (Piranha) 
Wailmer Line (Whale) 
Barboach Line (Loach) 
Lileep Line (Crinoid) 
Feebas Line (Bass) 
Clamperl Line (Clam) 
Relicanth (Coelacanth) 
Luvdisc (Discus Fish) 
Gible Line (Shark) 
Finneon Line (Freshwater Butterflyfish) 
Basculin Line (Sea Bass) 
Frillish Lines (Jellyfish) 
Alomomola (Mola Mola Fish) 
Tynamo Line (Electric Eel) 
Stunfisk(s) (Stargazer Fish) 
Inkay Line (Squid) 
Binacle Line (Barnacle)
Skrelp Line (Leafy Seadragon) 
Wishiwashi (Herring/Anchovies) 
Mareanie Line (Crown of Thorns Starfish) 
Pyukumuku (Sea Cucumber) 
Bruxish (Triggerfish) 
Arrokuda Line (Barracuda) 
Clobbopus Line (Octopus) 
Hatenna Line (Jellyfish) 
Pincurchin (Urchin) 
Wiglett Line (Garden Eel) 
Finizen (Dolphin) 
Glimmet Line (Sea Anemone) 
Cetoddle Line (Whale) 
Veluza (Hake Fish) 
Dondozo (Catfish) 
Crustaceans
Krabby Line (Crab) 
Kabuto Line (Horseshoe Crab) 
Corphish Line (Crawfish) 
Dwebble Line (Hermit Crab) 
Clauncher Line (Lobster) 
Crabrawler Line (Crab) 
Klawf (Velvet Crab) 
Insects 
Caterpie Line (Butterfly) 
Weedle Line (Bee Larva) 
Paras Line (Cicada Nymph) 
Venonat Line (Swallowtail Moth) 
Scyther (Praying Mantis) 
Pinsir (Stag Beetle) 
Ledyba Line (Ladybug)
Yanma Line (Dragonfly) 
Pineco Line (Bagworm) 
Heracross (Rhino Beetle) 
Wurmple Lines (Spiked Caterpillars) 
Surskit Line (Water Skater) 
Nincada Lines (Cicada) 
Volbeat (Lightning Bug) 
Illumise (Lightning Bug) 
Trapinch Line (Antlion) 
Kricketot Line (Cricket) 
Burmy Lines (Bagworm) 
Combee Line (Honeybee) 
Sewaddle Line (Leaf Insect) 
Venipede Line (Centipede) 
Karrablast Line (Carabid Beetle) 
Pawniard Line (Beetle) 
Durant (Ant) 
Larvesta Line (Atlas Moth) 
Scatterbug Line (Butterfly) 
Grubbin Line (Stag Beetle) 
Cutiefly Line (Bee Fly) 
Fomantis Line (Orchid Mantis) 
Wimpod Line (Isopod) 
Blipbug Line (Ladybird) 
Sizzlipede Line (Centipede)
Snom Line (Jewel Caterpillar) 
Nymble Line (Grasshopper) 
Rellor Line (Scarab Beetle) 
Arachnids
Spinarak Line (Smiling Spider) 
Skorupi Line (Scorpion)
Joltik (Jumping Spider)
Dewpider (Diving Bell Spider) 
Tarountula Line (Orb Weaver) 
Gastropods
Slugma Line (Iron Snail) 
Shellos Lines (Sea Slugs)
Shelmet Line (Snail) 
Goomy Lines (Slug & Snail) 
Ungulates
Ponyta Lines (Domestic Horses) 
Drowzee Line (Tapir) 
Rhyhorn Line (Rhino) 
Tauros(es) (Large Horned Cows) 
Mareep Line (Sheep) 
Girafarig Line (Giraffe) 
Swinub Line (Mangalica Pigs) 
Phanpy Line (Elephant) 
Stantler Line (Deer) 
Miltank (Milk Cow) 
Numel Line (Camel) 
Spoink Line (Teacup Pig) 
Hippopotas Line (Hippo) 
Tepig Line (Domestic Pig) 
Blitzle Line (Zebra) 
Deerling Line (Deer) 
Bouffalant (Buffalo) 
Skiddo Line (Goat) 
Mudbray Line (Mule) 
Wooloo Line (Sheep) 
Cufant Line (Elephant) 
Lechonk Line (Pig) 
Primates
Mankey Line (Barbary Macaque) 
Aipom Line (Squirrel Monkey) 
Meditite Line (Indri) 
Chimchar Line (Chimpanzee) 
Pansage Line (Capuchin Monkey)
Pansear Line (Capuchin Monkey)
Panpour Line (Capuchin Monkey)
Darumaka Lines (Gibbon) 
Oranguru (Orangutan) 
Grookey Line (Gorilla) 
Mammal
Sandshrew Lines (Armadillo) 
Nidoran Lines (Hedgehog) 
Jigglypuff Line (Capybara) 
Zubat Line (Bat) 
Diglett Line (Mole) 
Psyduck Line (Platypus) 
Seel Line (Seals) 
Cubone Lines (Wombat) 
Kangaskhan (Kangaroo) 
Snorlax (Bear) 
Cyndaquil Lines (Echidna) 
Sentret Line (Ferret) 
Gligar Line (Scorpionfly) 
Teddiursa Line (Brown Bear) 
Sneasel Lines (Weasel) 
Zigzagoon Lines (Raccoon) 
Slakoth Line (Sloth) 
Whismur Line (Rabbit) 
Spinda (Panda) 
Zangoose (Mongoose) 
Spheal Line (Walrus) 
Buizel Line (River Otter) 
Buneary Line (Rabbit) 
Stunky Line (Skunk) 
Oshawott Lines (Sea Otter) 
Patrat Line (Meerkat) 
Woobat Line (Bat) 
Drilbur Line (Mole) 
Auduno (Pika) 
Cubchoo Line (Polar Bear) 
Mienfoo Line (Ermine) 
Heatmoor (Anteater) 
Bunnelby Line (Hare) 
Pancham Line (Panda) 
Noibat Line (Bat) 
Popplio Line (Sea Lion) 
Yungoos Line (Mongoose) 
Passimian (Lemur) 
Komola (Koala) 
Scorbunny Line (Wild Hare) 
Shroodle Line (Tenrecs) 
Living Fossils & Dinosaurs
Aerodactyl (Pterosaur) 
Anorith Line (Anomalocaris) 
Cranidos Line (Pachycephalosaurus) 
Shieldon Line (Ceratops) 
Archen Line (Archaeopteryx) 
Axew Line (Hadrosaurid) 
Tyrunt Line (Tyrannosaurus) 
Amaura Line (Amargasaurus) 
Dracozolt (Raptor-Rex) 
Arctozolt (Raptor-Plesiosaur)
Dracovish (Dunkleosteus-Rex) 
Arctovish(Dunkleosteus-Plesiosaur) 
Dreepy Line (Diplocaulus)
Great Tusk (Mammoth) 
Slither Wing (Prehistoric Lepidoptera)
Roaring Moon (Unknown Fossil/Time Travel)
Walking Wake (Dryptosaurus) 
Gouging Fire (Styracosaurus) 
Raging Bolt (Brontosaurus) 
Living Plants & Fungi 
Oddish Lines (Mandrake) 
Bellsprout Line (Pitcher Plant) 
Exeggcute Lines (Palm Seeds) 
Tangela Line (Seagrass) 
Chikorita Line (Pear) 
Hoppip Line (Dandelion) 
Sunkern Line (Sunflower) 
Shuckle (Slime Mold) 
Lotad Line (Lilypad) 
Seedot Line (Acorn) 
Shroomish Line (Mushroom) 
Budew Line (Rose) 
Cacnea Line (Cactus) 
Tropius (Banana Tree) 
Cherubi Line (Cherries) 
Carnivine (Venus Flytrap) 
Snover Line (Pine) 
Cottonee Line (Cotton Plants)
Petilil Lines (Lily Flower) 
Maractus (Flowering Cactus) 
Foongus Line (Mushrooms) 
Ferroseed Line (Durian Fruit) 
Flabebe Line (Flower) 
Pumpkaboo Line (Pumpkin) 
Morelull Line (Hallucinogenic Fungi) 
Bounsweet Line (Mangosteen) 
Comfey (Flowering Vine) 
Gossifleur Line (Cotton Plant) 
Applin Lines (Apples) 
Smoliv Line (Olive & Olive Tree) 
Bramblin Line (Thorns) 
Toadscool Line (Toadstool) 
Capsakid Line (Peppers) 
Stone & Gemstone
Geodude Lines (Rocks) 
Onix Line (Stone) 
Nosepass Line (Stone Statue) 
Sableye (Gemstones) 
Lunatone (Rock Carving) 
Solrock (Rock Carving)
Roggenrola Line (Geode) 
Druddigon (Gargoyle) 
Golett Line (Stone Statues) 
Carbink (Diamond) 
Diancie (Pink Diamond) 
Sandygast Line (Sand) 
Minior (Meteor) 
Stakataka (Stone Bricks) 
Rolycoly Line (Coal) 
Stonjourner (Stone Brick) 
Objects & Material
Magnemite Line (Magnets) 
Grimer Lines (Toxic Waste) 
Voltorb Lines (Balls) 
Porygon Line (Digital Data) 
Bonsly Line (Fake Trees) 
Wynaut Line (Doll) 
Baltoy Line (Clay Doll)
Shuppet Line (Doll) 
Duskull Line (Skull) 
Chimecho (Wind Chime) 
Drifloon Line (Balloon) 
Chingling (Bell) 
Bronzor Line (Mirror) 
Rotom (Digital Virus) 
Shaymin (Chia Pet) 
Munna Line (Pillow) 
Yamask Lines (Old Masks) 
Trubbish Line (Trash) 
Gothita Line (Dress) 
Solosis Line (Giant Cell) 
Klink Line (Gears) 
Litwick Line (Candles) 
Cryogonal (Ice) 
Honedge Line (Sword) 
Klefki (Keychains) 
Bergmite Lines (Ocean Ice) 
Stufful Line (Teddy Bear) 
Dhelmise (Ship Anchor) 
Xurkitree (Wiring) 
Meltan Line (Mercury) 
Sinistea Line (Teaset) 
Falinks (Toy) 
Duraludon Line (Skyscrapers/Bridges) 
Nacli Line (Salt) 
Charcadet Lines (Armour) 
Varoom Line (Engines) 
Foods
Vanillite Line (Ice Cream) 
Swirlix Line (Cotton Candy) 
Milcery Line (Cream) 
Tatsugiri(s) (Sushi) 
Poltchageist Line (Matcha Tea) 
‘Unknown’ Origins 
Machop Line
Gastly Line (Ghosts) 
Tyrogue Lines
Koffing Lines (Poison Gases) 
Elekid Line
Ditto 
Misdreavus Line (Ghosts) 
Unown(s) (Runes) 
Ralts Lines (Dolls) 
Makuhita Line
Mawile (Yokai) 
Castform (Paper Doll) 
Snorunt Line
Spritomb (Lazarus Pit)
Timburr
Sigilyph 
Deino Line 
Phantump (Forest Child Ghost) 
Mimikyu (Lone Ghost Children) 
Drampa
Marshadow (Shadows) 
Impidimp Line (Children) 
Indeedee 
Tinkatink Line 
Orthworm (Earth Worms) 
Altered Via Outside Influence 
Beldum Line (Alien Technology) 
Deoxys (Alien DNA & Cloning) 
Elgyem (Alien Technology) 
Genesect (Alien Tech & Cloning) 
Iron Moth (Luthor Tech & Alien Tech) 
Iron Thorns (Luthor Tech & Alien Tech) 
Iron Valiant (Wayne Collab) 
Iron Leaves (Wayne Collab)
Iron Crown (Wayne Collab)
Iron Boulder (Wayne Collab)
FURTHER MINI RAMBLES
⏵Most non-sapient plant variation has happened in things such as berries & fruits 
⏵It’s noted that many of the creatures show signs of convergent evolution to other animals & plants, especially in further mutations
⏵Several animals & other things not native to Gotham or New Jersey were brought in as experiments or for the Gotham Zoo which were affected over time
Like IRL Animals & Plants, They Can Have Mutations & Color Variations:
Normal color/Pattern [Very Common]
“Shinies” [Uncommon color variant] 
Piebaldism/Vitiligo [Patches of no melanism] 
Albinism [No melanism] 
Leucism [No melanism save for eyes] 
Melanism [Excess black] 
Erythrism [Excess red] 
Axanthism [No yellow & more blue] 
Xanthochromism [Excess yellow] 
Chimerism [2 offspring fused] 
Gynandromorphism [Split & both male/female]
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Alrighty and HERE ARE OUR CONTENDERS!!!
Tag for the polls: #bird battle
DISCLAIMER - I wrote the round one blurbs when I was very sick and half awake, so if you see any mistakes PLEASE TELL ME! Nicely, obviously, but I want to make sure they sound good for round 2. Thank you!
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I know there’s a lot of them, but man there’s SO MANY GOOD BIRDS! There were a few times where people didn’t put what specific subspecies for some birds, so sometimes I’d have to choose one. I tried to choose one that represents that bird the best!
I don’t know when the polls will begin, I’m doing some research on the birds so that people can read about them before they vote.
If one of your favs didn’t make it in, don’t worry they’re a winner in my and your heart.
If you are wondering where the Pigeon (Rock Dove) is, THEY ARE THE FINAL CHAMPION! At the end of this bracket, the winner will face off against the mightily popular Rock Dove! Will they be able to beat such a tough challenger? We will see…
Also, a note on how I set this bracket up: I put all the birds in a numbered list and then used a number generator. I think the matchups we got were really interesting.
Full list under the cut
HARPY EAGLE
SUPERB BIRD OF PARADISE
VAMPIRE FINCH
RAINBOW LORIKEET
BALTIMORE ORIOLE
EURASIAN WREN
STELLER'S JAY
CALIFORNIA CONDOR
EURASIAN HOOPOE
BLACK CAPPED CHICKADEE
TAWNY FROGMOUTH
AMERICAN GOLDFINCH
ANDEAN COCK OF THE ROCK
MUTE SWAN
WESTERN SANDPIPER
STELLER'S SEA EAGLE
VIOLET BACKED STARLING
HOATZIN
HOUSE SPARROW
HERACLES
CANADIAN GOOSE
DODO
GREAT EARED NIGHTJAR
SANDHILL CRANE
PELAGORNIS
SUPERB FAIRY WREN
SOUTHERN CASSOWARY
AMERICAN ROBIN
GREATER ROADRUNNER
GREAT BLUE HERON
AMERICAN AVOCET
PASSENGER PIGEON
WALLCREEPER
GREAT TIT
MOA
EASTERN BLUEBIRD
AUSTRALIAN BUSHTURKEY
EMU
MALLARD DUCK
FLAME BOWERBIRD
MANDARIN DUCK
BELTED KINGFISHER
OILBIRD
FAIRY PENGUIN
LESSER FLAMINGO
AUSTRALIAN KESTREL
CARRION CROW
UMBRELLABIRD
LOGGERHEAD SHRIKE
PERUVIAN PELICAN
CALIFORNIA QUAIL
MACGREGORS BOWERBIRD
HARRIS HAWK
COMMON RAVEN
BEARDED VULTURE
PEREGRINE FALCON
ROSY LOVEBIRD
ROSEATTE SPOONBILL
LONG TAILED GRACKLE
AMERICAN WOODCOCK
KAKAPO
BLUE FOOTED BOOBY
RHEA
BEE HUMMINGBIRD
WHITE WAGTAIL
HUIA
SNAIL KITE
DOMESTIC CHICKEN
KIWI
MOURNING DOVE
ATLANTIC PUFFIN
CARDINAL
LYREBIRD
EUROPEAN ROBIN
BURROWING OWL
OSPREY
RED TAILED HAWK
BLEEDING HEART DOVE
BARN OWL
PEACOCK
SATIN BOWERBIRD
CAIQUE
RED WINGED BLACKBIRD
LONG TAILED TIT
HERRING GULL
GREEN HERON
CREAM COLORED WOODPECKER
AUSTRALIAN IBIS
TRISTAM'S STARLING
POTOO
WANDERING ALBATROSS
BLUE JAY
KEA
COMMON MYNA
RAINBOW TOUCAN
GREATER SAGE GROUSE
TURKEY VULTURE
TUFTED TITMOUSE
CRESTED AUKLET
EURASIAN MAGPIE
BUDGIE
SCREECH OWL
WIP-POOR-WILL
SECRETARY BIRD
AUSTRALIAN MAGPIE
CEDAR WAXWING
VICTORIA CROWNED PIGEON
HERMIT THRUSH
COMMON SWIFT
WHITE BELLBIRD
BROWN SKUA
EUROPEAN DIPPER
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blubushie · 2 days
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i dont think anyone has laid out exactly what irks me about vegans so successfully
they really are bleeding hearts- i recently got told off for enslaving animals because I have chickens, something I know for a fact they had to go digging for because I sure didn't mention that in the conversation. I'm not even a proper farmer, I don't turn a profit off of my chickens, they're really just pets that come with the bonus of eggs and learning the circle of life at an early age. It just seems to me that the loud angry vegan crowd can't tell the difference between genuinely horrifying and unethical factory farms vs. any group of humans who happen to farm free range animals.
I also believe it stems from the fact that as a society there's an unwillingness to accept that humans are animals and not some great overlooking gods in comparison to animals.
Yeah and the amount of vegans I've seen claim we don't give a fuck about our stock is insane! You know how much a SINGLE bullock is worth? Fuck me! We do everything we can for them not just because THEY ARE LIVING CASH but also because we DO genuinely like our stock! We like being with them!
"Waaaah Australian sheep farmers mules their sheep" yeah we do it so they don't fucken DIE of flystrike! But none of these cunts know what flystrike is cuz they don't actually know anything about fucking agriculture. Ough.
Free-range farming for cattle especially is stupid to argue against since we USED to have bison in the US until they were almost driven to extinction to kill off the Natives. SOMETHING has to continue that economic niche and until bison populations return to what they were pre-genocide, cattle should fill that void. And they do.
Same thing with Australia—we graze cattle on open land, not keep them cooped up in factories. I think too many people confuse factory farms as beef when in reality they're dairy, and most are pretty good. BAD factory farms (see: unethical conditions) are usually poultry (chickens, turkey, quail) fowl (duck, geese) and pigs. I've genuinely never seen pigs in a commercial production that had proper space or range to do pig things.
But that's easily remedied—if you're in the US, buy a rifle and hunt the pigs yourself, because feral pigs are fucking everywhere and ruining the ecosystem. That or buy your pork from your local non-factory farm. If enough people do it, the factories will start shutting down. If you're in Australia, get a hunting and firearms licence and do the same, or if you don't wanna bother with that, buy your meat locally or tip your local pig shooter and maybe he'll give you some meat as a gift (legally we can't sell feral pig meat).
All of these are easily solved by just buying local, doing the hunting yourself, or advocating for better conditions for commercial animals. Not convincing people to go vegan, because for most of the world who isn't a privileged little shit living in a big city on daddy's money, veganism is entirely unsustainable and unaffordable.
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Greek vocabulary: Common birds edition
*bold “th” is pronounced like a regular th, all other instances of th here are actually pronounced as th in this, that, there, mother etc
** i always as ee, never as eye
*** gh is like the French r
eagle - αετός - aetós (ah-eh- TOS) (m)
swallow - χελιδόνι - helithóni (n)
Sparrow - σπουργίτι - spuryíti (n)
Chicken (young) - κοτόπουλο - kotópulo (n)
Hen (female colloquial) - κότα - kóta (f)
Chicken / hen (archaic) - όρνις / όρνιθα - órnis / órnitha (f)
(Hence ornithology.)
Rooster - πετεινός - petinós (m)
Rooster (colloquial) - κόκορας - kókoras (m)
Rooster (archaic) - αλέκτωρ - aléktor (m)
Woodpecker - δρυοκολάπτης - thriokoláptis (m)
Hawk - γεράκι - yeráki (n)
Vulture - όρνιο - órño (n)
Vulture - γύπας - yípas (m)
Raven / crow - κόρακας / κοράκι - kórakas / koráki (m / n)
Penguin - πιγκουίνος - piguínos (m)
Parrot - παπαγάλος - papaghálos (m)
Parrot (archaic) - ψιττακός - psitakós (m)
(Hence the scientific name and psittacosis disease.)
Quail - ορτύκι - ortíki (n)
Pheasant- φασιανός - fassianós (m)
Duck - πάπια - pápya (f)
Goose - χήνα - hína (f)
Pigeon - περι��τέρι - peristéri (n)
Swan - κύκνος - kíknos (m)
(Hence the Latin and then scientific name Cygnus as well as the constellation.)
Cuckoo - κούκος - kúkos (m)
Owl (colloquial) - κουκουβάγια - kukuváya (f)
Owl (archaic) - γλαύκα - ghláfka (f)
Seagull - γλάρος - ghláros (m)
Stork - πελαργός - pelarghós (m)
Pelican - πελεκάνος - pelekános (m)
Peacock - παγώνι - paghóni (n)
Partridge - πέρδικα - pérthika (f)
Lark - κορυδαλλός - korithalós (m)
Magpie - καρακάξα - karakáxa (f)
Collared dove - δεκαοχτούρα - thekaochtúra (f)
Thrush - τσίχλα - tsíchla (f)
Jay - κίσσα - kíssa (f)
Nightingale - αηδόνι - aithóni (ah - ee - THO- nee) (n)
Robin - κοκκινολαίμης - kokinolémis (m)
Crane - γερανός - yeranós (m)
Ostrich - στρουθοκάμηλος - struthokámilos (f)
(From Ancient Greek to Latin, hence the scientific name Struthio camelus.)
Alcyone - αλκυόνη - alkióni (f)
(This bird takes its name from a Greek goddess)
and IMO the ultimate avian winner in Greek word lottery
Heron - ερωδιός - erothiós (m)
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Ello there! Heard you were taking requests for kin tips. Could I please get tips for my caracal theriotype?
Thanks so much and have a great day :3
I gotchu! 😎
1) Caracals are strictly carnivorous so eating meat can help you feel more connected, they specifically eat birds so try chicken, turkey, duck, and quail
2) Going to the zoo can also help, not only is it fun but you can see all sorts of Savannah animals and even caracals themself! Also just spending time in nature and bird watching is great too
3) Things like taxidermy and bone collecting (ethically of course) can make your home feel like home, there are also books, shirts, stuffed animals, and figurines of caracals that you can by online. Even wearing things like ears, tails, therian jewelry, masks, and clothes that remind you of caracals (e.g the color, style, texture) can feel very comfortable and euphoric
4) Games can also help, you can hide a stuffed animal in your room and pretend to hunt it and practice quadrobics, or it could be videos games with caracals in it
5) Drawing, painting, crafts, and art in general can be very grounding, there are a lot of tutorials online that you can do if you want to 🤎
Tried my best, hope you like it!
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For Almost A Century, The Kuertz Family Guarded Hazelwood’s Natural Beauty
On the north side of Montgomery, a couple of nature preserves perpetuate the memory of Hazelwood, a once wild corner of Hamilton County. The Harris M. Benedict Nature Preserve is owned by the University of Cincinnati and the adjacent Johnson Preserve was donated to the City of Montgomery.
One hundred years ago, Hazelwood was rural enough to need its own deputy game warden. That role was filled by a truly eccentric gentleman named Louis Kuertz. Warden Kuertz knew the land around Hazelwood intimately and he knew many of the woodland creatures individually.
Rube, a crow, would alight on his hand or shoulder upon being called. When Kuertz hollered across the lake on his property, a turtle named Monte would rise from the lacustrine depths and waddle up to his feet. Kuertz was instrumental in having quail designated as a songbird – and therefore exempt from hunting – in Ohio.
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Kuertz worked variously as a truck farmer, a cabinetmaker and as game warden, and passed along his devotion for the natural world to his wife, Anna Belle, and especially his daughter, Gertrude. When Gertrude was just 12 years old, she inspired newspaper coverage because she would trek into the autumn woods to help her father locate poachers. The Cincinnati Post [4 November 1914] noted that Gertrude knew how to identify snipe, plover and quail and was proficient with a gun and fishing rod.
“Gertrude also studies butterflies and flowers and prefers books on botanical and avicular subjects to fairy tales. In winter she goes about in the woods scattering food for wild creatures that otherwise might starve.”
Gertrude’s affection for animals extended as well to domesticated varieties. In 1916, the Post ran a series of articles, allegedly composed by a turkey named Trixey as that chubby bird awaited the arrival of Thanksgiving. With all the build-up, the Post’s readers would have expected a traditional and savory end to the gag. Instead, on Thanksgiving Day, the Post located Trixey “in full bloom of life, smiling pleasantly” at the Kuertz farm. Gertrude was there to explain:
“’We do not slaughter our pets,’ said Miss Kuertz proudly.”
The article went on to list other animals who would not provide sustenance to the Kuertz family, including a red-haired pig named Ruddy, Nana the pony, Bossie the cow and Nanny, a goat of unusual variety donated to the Kuertzes by the Cincinnati Zoo.
“Ganders and geese, ducks and drakes, pigeons and chickens and pheasants and quail – all immune from the swish of the butcher’s knife.”
Gertrude also had a pet hawk. Her interests extended to the vegetable kingdom as well. When the Association for Preservation of Wild Flowers launched a campaign in 1921, Gertrude served as poster girl, holding a sign encouraging flower lovers to leave enough blooms to reseed for the next year.
There came a time when Frank Mills Jr. came courting and the Kuertz family naturally wanted to be sure he was as committed to environmental matters as their daughter. Mills derived from a well-known Cincinnati family. His father, Frank Senior, was the longtime director of the Cincinnati Athletic Club. A nude photograph of the elder Mills hung for many years at the club as an example of perfect manly physique. Apparently the Kuertzes approved, for a wedding date was set.
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These days, it is considered conventional, if not downright old-fashioned, to be married in a church. A century ago, church marriages were the gold standard. Pretty much the only alternative to a religious venue was the local magistrate’s office. No one got married outside. Unless you were Gertrude Kuertz.
When Gertrude and Frank Mills said their vows on 3 October 1925, it rather caused a stir in Cincinnati social circles because the ceremony took place under the trees at the Kuertz family farm out in Hazelwood. The Cincinnati Post [8 October 1925] devoted several columns to the event:
“In what church was she to be married? She knew no place more sacred than the woods in which she had seen Creation march among her trees and touch them with life and where she witnessed since her childhood the gentleness of the divine love, even to the least of creatures. The woods were to be her church.”
As irregular as it might have seemed at the time, Gertrude’s outdoor wedding was officiated by the very proper Dr. Edward P. Whallon, described as “a minister of the Old School” in an official history of the Presbyterian Church.
The wedding culminated in a good-sized banquet, also served under the boughs of the great trees, illuminated by several bonfires. After the wedding, Gertrude’s appearances in the newspapers were largely confined to the gardening columns. She and Frank, a chemist by trade, excelled at growing almost anything except corn. Frank told the Post [7 July 1965]:
“There are too many varmints around. First the chipmunks dig up the seeds, then the rabbits eat the tender shoots and if there’s any left, the woodchucks strip the ears.”
And, of course, Gertrude would be opposed to shooting any of the brigands.
Gertrude and Frank lived most of their married life in a house personally constructed by her father on the family farm, next door to the house she grew up in. They raised a son and a daughter there.
Louis Kuertz had his own idiosyncratic architectural style that involved knocking together a rough iron framework and covering it with layers of stone and concrete. Kuertz built several such structures, including a bell tower for the local school, in the Hazelwood area. The house Kuertz built for his daughter was known to the nearby community as the Gingerbread House. It looked very much like the houses pictured in fairy tale books and had unique touches including dozens of nooks and crannies and a fireplace sculpted to look like a tree. All the doorknobs turned backwards and all the light switches were installed upside-down. Louis Kuertz died in 1933 and his ashes were placed under a memorial stone on the family estate.
Over the years, bits of the Kuertz farm were sold off. The Gingerbread House survived on a remnant acre until 1992, when it was sold to a developer by Gertrude’s daughter and was promptly demolished.
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beepiesheepie · 7 months
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for christmas /whatever holiday that involves a big dinner Godrick would make a special grafted turkey that's all forms of poultry. It's got turkey as the base, then chicken, duck, peafowl, geese, swan, pigeon, quail, and more. It looks horrific but it's actually really tasty
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What is it like to raise birds? I really like birds and I would like to have as many as you but I have no idea if it is how I imagine it, even so, if I had some I would love them! I'm sorry if there are spelling mistakes.
Owning and raising birds is a real treat. They are easy to understand if you're committed to learning, and are a really fun and healthy source of entertainment. Most of my childhood was me being a bedridden hermit, and getting chickens was the first and most vital step in getting me outdoors and moving more. It's amazing how much flock animals can change your life for the better.
Chickens are funny, easy to keep happy, and if you handle them right, extremely loving in their own way that makes it exciting to go out each day and see how they're doing.
Raising them from chicks yourself is the best way to ensure they'll be friendly and loving when they're older. It can be sort of scary when you have your first chicks, it's easy to think they're more fragile than they are, or that you're upsetting them, but baby birds just like to whine. Some more than others, but either way you learn pretty quickly that being consistent and easy-going with your attention is what birds tend to like.
Working with a calm hand and persistence, you will be rewarded with a fun hobby that comes with many benefits. Chickens are best for eggs and compost, getting rid of food scraps and old (but never moldy!) food turns into fresh eggs to eat and poop for fertilizing the land. Geese are great for maintaining wild plant growth, keeping grass low cut and invasive weeds at bay, and also produce a lot of feather fluff if you have use for goose feathers. Their eggs are also massive, though not as good for frying as chicken eggs. Ducks are great at keeping garden pests at bay, and can be super amusing as they're surprisingly fast paced and emotive animals.
They are very messy, though. Maybe not as much with chickens-- as long as they have a dry space they keep themselves pretty clean as long as you change their bedding when they need it. Ducks and geese however, which are waterfowl, can be much much messier. Ducks especially. They need a lot of water to be happy, and get it everywhere. This in combination with their poop leads to quickly dirtied water and muddy enclosures if you don't keep up with the cleaning. Every day I get messy and wet for their sake. I don't mind it, but it can be harder to manage in colder and wetter months.
It can be a bit of a hump to get past the grosser parts of poultry care, but once you get past that, and you have a routine, I think it's still a relatively easy thing to maintain, and is worth it for all the pleasantries the birds bring in turn.
Chickens do well with less space than a lot of other poultry, their comfortable square foot per individual radius is rather small, given they have room to run and can all get along. It is simple and easy to raise chickens in a suburban backyard. I am not sure if it works similarly for other countries, but look up your town ordiances for poultry livestock allowances, if in the USA. More towns allow backyard hens than you'd expect, depending on the square footage of your property.
Geese and ducks need much more space, they are roamers and need large spaces to walk, stretch their wings, and explore to stay happy lest they grow bored and agitated. Unless you live in rural neighborhoods, it is unlikely you can own waterfowl. And roosters; Many suburban towns that allow hens do not allow roosters, because they are noisy.
Quails are also another choice, if chickens are too intimidating or difficult to procure in your area. Many quails can live quiety and happily in an enclosure even inside, so long as they have proper enrichment. They can be a good and cute stepping stone to bigger birds like chickens or ducks.
Turkeys and guinea fowl are interesting in their own way as well. I don't have as much experience with turkeys, they're larger and sassier but they generally work well with chickens. Plus they make funny noises and are amusing to look at. Guinea fowls, kind of like geese, are really good watch dogs if you live in a place with hawks, eagles, or small predators. They are very loud and vocal, and can be somewhat assertive and protective of their flock. They're also really stupid looking.
But anyways, back to what it's like to have birds in general... If you're birdbrained you will feel at home when you are amongst your flock. If you aren't birdbrained, enough time around them will make you so. It will be a peaceful experience and the work put into them is always rewarding. Being able to sit with chickens, letting them jump up to you and eat from your hand, or petting and hugging a duck, or having a gaggle of geese follow you through a field in a slow line... it's like having a fun and obtainable experience to look forward to every day. :3
Oh, I was going to end it there but I actually have one more thing to add. This part of poultry care is the part people don't always like to hear/realise, but the biggest thing with poultry is: Do not raise what you are not willing to kill. Regardless of whether you raise birds like chickens for meat, eggs, or just as pets, you must accept that fact that at some point, you may need to humanely cull one. Unwanted males do not sell/rehome easily, and can become an issue to take care of if you aren't ready to cull. Sick hens do not always make it, and sometimes you have to decide to spare them the pain and put them down. Vets can sometimes help with this, but most of the time that requires an exotics expert, and can cost you much more than it's worth. Being able to cull your birds is also useful life experience and teaches proper animal respect.
Just, keep that in mind if you ever look into owning birds. You need to be strong for their sake, you are the one they depend on the most.
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Make a world with me part 7
Previous parts 1, 2, 3, 3.5, 4, 5, 6
Fauna
Because I need a break from people (both real and imaginary).
I'm going to consider any work I write from this as 'translated' into English but there is a little more to it than that. The languages spoken here are English, or French, or Greek or some version of some language spoken here because their ancestors escaped from here - but the language changed and evolved as time went on.
This will inform how they name animals.
For example : The ancestors said that horses were four-legged herbivores that they can ride, so this four-legged herbivore we ride must be a horse. This animal also has a spikes on it's tail and brown and yellow stripes along it, but that's besides the point.
Cows were horned animals bred for meet and milk, meet the cow - it's basically a small, furry rhino they use to pull carts and plough.
I can use this to bring both a sense of familiar and fantastical to any reader. By saying this boy loves his dog, everyone can relate. By then describing what is very much not a dog, I can emphasis how strange this world actually is.
A similar thing will happen with the plants and crops. Root vegetables can be called carrots or potatoes or turnips.
Anyway, list time. I'll start with semi-domesticated animals (they haven't had the time to actual domesticate anything). Time to look at some prehistoric ancestors to get some ideas.
Animals of the islands
*Some of these are unique to a single island
Horses - striped animals with strong legs, short bodies and heads with a puff of porcupine-like spikes on it's tail. Live wild in small herds of ten or less. Handle with care.
Cows - small, woolly, single-horned rhino like creatures. Produce milk, meat, parchment and leather. Their horns are used to make weapons (but only after the creature dies so that it does not curse the creation). There are varying ideas about what traits they should be bred for, which is beginning to show up as regional breeds.
Goats - inexplicably close to actual goats, horizonal eyes and all, only with an extra set of horns.
Sheep - mini, woolly camel-like creatures with short trunks attached to long faces. Very friendly and very slobbery.
Chickens - short faces and beaks on a body that about 3ft tall with long, black, brown and blue tail feathers, short wings and long legs with powerful claws. Currently farmers are trying to breed them to be fatter and less aggressive.
Geese. Slightly bigger than men, with short wings on thick, fat bodies and very bulbous, big beaks. Attempts to domestic these are not going well.
Ducks were an invasive species, brought from Earth with the colonists who have somehow managed to survive and stick with people down to a ridiculous amount of luck and the affection of three small girls. They have started to interbred with some other water fowl, making them larger (but not much) and giving them the ability to camouflage- much to the dismay of their keepers. Ducks are contained to a few islands, although they are being brought elsewhere, and are considered to be sacred on a few of them.
Quail - fat hummingbird-like creatures that can hover about a foot off the ground for up to a minute.
Rabbits - shaped like tiny bears with long, fanned ears, these animals are an easy meat source but considered by many to be a pest due to their burrowing nature.
Hamsters -basically capybaras with bigger teeth.
Dogs. They were many dogs who arrived with the original colonists, however they died or were lost during the journey while trying to protect their humans. A single puppy survived the journey and was pampered and spoiled until they died of old age. There are wild dog-like creatures with purples steaks who people are trying to domesticate. They are on one the peninsula and are seen as a gift and a good omen by all people. (Unknown to all of them, a few dogs who were lost managed to find and join a pack of these so they are the descendants of the original dogs).
Cats. Like dogs and ducks, many dogs were brought along on the original journey. Unlike dogs, most cats had no interest in sticking with the people they came with when their were so many new types of rodents and mice to chase. They are thriving on the mainland despite it's many dangers. A few remained with people, and there are discussions about which native species they might attempt to breed them with to prevent their extinction (If any are compatible). Other arguments are that they should allow the few remaining cats to retire and die out and be replaced with 'ferrets'.
Ferrets. Hairy snakes with two short front legs with claws for burrowing, and two shorter back legs. Likes to climb trees, buildings, people. Notorious food thieves.
Any other suggestions are more than welcome!
I think I am almost ready to start writing some short stories set in one or two of the islands. Almost. (Novel WIP is staring silently at me.)
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flecks-of-stardust · 2 years
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i don’t have enough evidence to make this an actual big post but i still wanted to put it out into the wild, but honestly ever since approaching (some of) bug fables’ world from the perspective of underspecification, i’ve been much less frustrated with it. it’s also fun to contrast the underspecification of bug fables’ world with the inference heavy world of hollow knight.
what i mean by underspecification is the deliberate act of saying something while leaving out certain aspects that are assumed to be common knowledge. one of the more prominent examples i can think of is eggs; when you say ‘egg,’ it’s almost always understood that you mean chicken eggs, and not duck eggs, goose eggs, quail eggs, or even turtle eggs. this is because of the high prevalence of using chicken eggs in recipes due to the domestication of chickens, and so saying ‘chicken egg’ is redundant unless more than one type of egg is used. in contrast, inference is when there is no shared knowledge, but there are clues in what is said or in the environment that point to a certain fact.
in the context of bug fables, i find the idea of underspecification to be particularly useful with the world of the four kingdoms. i’ve wondered for a while now why the ant kingdom is so catered to what team snakemouth needs as an explorer team, while none of the rest of the ant kingdom is shown; for a kingdom supposedly as great and as prosperous as the ant kingdom is, we do not see any sprawling residential areas, nor a schooling area (ann isn’t even in school, and apparently never is), nor even a graveyard to bury the dead. none of the hallmarks of settlements seem to be accessible to team snakemouth. but when i look at this from the perspective of underspecification, it both makes more sense and is more interesting than criticizing an indie dev team for what they likely did not have the time and budget to make. we do not have access to the broader residential area, the schoolyard, the graveyard, and other parts of the ant kingdom because team snakemouth already knows where they are, and there is no need to point it out. they have no need to wander in the residential area because there is nothing they need there. they have no need to go to the schoolyard because it’s not relevant to their mission. it would be nice to have that option as a player, but to team snakemouth, everyone already knows where all of these locations are, so why point them out? it would be redundant and weird.
conversely, in hollow knight, the knight is not presented as a local resident of the area. they do not know hallownest or anything about the general area. though not all information is freely given to them, there are aspects of the environment that do allow them to piece together the history of hallownest, particularly with areas like the white palace. so underspecification isn’t particularly useful here since there’s no shared knowledge, but there is a lot you can infer from.
this is messy but idk, the concept of underspecification is fascinating. i think it’s more fun to work with than the alternative.
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Conversion student here with a random question/debate topic
Would penguins be considered kosher?
Obviously, they’re not in the list of non-kosher birds, but they give off a less-than-kosher vibe.
What about other flightless birds? I don’t know much about ostriches and emus, but they seem like birds that would be considered dores (I would personally include the ability to bludgeon other creatures to death as something that feels decidedly non-kosher).
Back on penguins, are they closer to other swimming kosher birds (e.g ducks) or other flightless non-kosher birds?
I haven’t seen it specifically mentioned, but I can feel it in my bones that more than one rabbi has devoted a significant amount of time and energy into this topic
No, penguins are not kosher.
Why?
Well, first we understand which birds are kosher by which birds aren't on the list of non-kosher birds in the Tanakh, which are:
-Eagle
-Vulture
-Black vulture
-Kite
-All falcons
-All ravens
-Ostrich
-Nighthawk
-Seagull
-All hawks
-Little owl
-Cormorant
-Great owl
-White owl
-Pelican
-Bustard
-Storks
-All herons
-Hoopoe
-Bat (yes a bat isn't scientifically a bird but the word used in the Tanakh is "הָע֔וֹף", which technically translates as "those who fly")
The Mishnah elaborates that a kosher bird is one that:
-Is not a bird-of-prey
-Has an extra/elongated toe
-Has a crop
-Has a "peelable" gizzard (has a layer of skin in the gizzard that can be peeled by hand)
-Doesn't split its toes when standing on a string (doesn't put two in front and two behind) (like how a parrot perches, so parrots aren't kosher)
Additionally, in practice, which birds are kosher are those that have a Mesorah (tradition) of being kosher. So, kosher birds are generally those in the Phasianidae family (although the Mesorah of eating peafowl has been shaky, so generally most Jews won't eat peafowl), the Anatidae family, and the Columbidae family. Most commonly eaten birds today are: Chicken, Turkey, Goose, Duck, Pigeon, Quail, and Pheasant. Turkeys are kosher even though they are flightless New World birds with no Mesorah because they've attempted to mate with chickens and are similar enough to other pheasant-like birds, and because they meet the qualifications of a kosher bird. Although still, some Jews won't eat turkeys. The Shulchan Aruch also established that if a bird has a long-standing Mesorah of being kosher, then even if it's missing one qualification, it's still kosher .(geese don't have crops, for example).
So, penguins aren't kosher because:
-They hunt
-They have a really tiny hallux
-They don't have a crop
-There's absolutely no Mesorah of them being kosher and they're in no way similar to kosher birds
And as for ostriches, they're already in the list of non-kosher birds.
Now, if you really want to have a debate, talk to your fellow students and Rabbi about why turkeys are/aren't considered kosher because hoo boy is it a debate starter haha
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I don’t know what happened, but we’re becoming farm people. I just spent 20 minutes comparing different kids of manure.
Yesterday I saw that my favorite farm stand had opened for the season and I squealed and Justin was like why don’t I build you a fenced in garden and you just grow your own? A bit later I was talking about quail for their tiny adorable speckled eggs and getting a rabbit just to use its droppings in the garden and Justin asked “why are you talking about quail and a rabbit? Our next animals are goats.”
So that’s what we’re doing, living out our farm fantasy hahaha. Justin discovered that goats eat poison oak and that people pay big money to rent them out to eat excess vegetation and Justin is sold. I’m not ready for goats, seems like a big responsibility, but apparently sometime soon. And apparently their droppings are more beneficial than rabbit droppings, but so are chickens if you compost them right.
Why am I this way? What happened to me? Instagram? I had chickens in Texas and I loved my girls, but I wasn’t this level of obsessed with them. But now I see all these different breeds and characteristics and egg colors and I have become a chicken hoarder. I had to stop going to my favorite tractor supply because I became friends with the manager and he kept getting me to take his store’s injured birds home. So far we have rehomed 4 aggressive roosters (but kept our sweetheart silkie roo) and have 18 total. Three starlight eggers, three buff orpingtons, three mystic marans, two Easter eggers, two silkies, two booted bantams, a leghorn, a rhode island red, and a silver-laced sebright. We’ll get medium green eggs, light green eggs, maybe some blue if we’re lucky. And lighter brown, medium brown, and dark dark brown from the marans. And smaller cream colored ones from the bantam ladies. And the leghorn will lay the standard white you’re used to from the store, fun fact I hatched fertilized eggs from the store once and leghorns are what hatched!
I saw some reel that said that chickens are the gateway farm animal and ding ding ding. Once you have chickens you start looking up guard animals and then you want a goose. Then you go to a feed store and see that they have turkens (naked neck chickens that are social/sweet and are so ugly they’re cute), turkeys, ducks, and quails. I mean ducks are stinky and messy but I’ll take the rest please, thank you.
My grandma was an animal hoarder, is this genetic? She had an actual aviary and llamas and cats. We had animals growing up but I remember begging forever for a Guinea pig, it’s not like we had a farm. But at one point I was breeding Guinea pigs and fish. And incubating chicken eggs. So maybe it is in my genetics. A 10 year old asking for fish breeding supplies is not on my radar, what kid does that? Maybe this side of me has lied dormant under some depression fog. I don’t know.
Justin being on board is dangerous though. He didn’t even say anything when he came home from his work trip to 6 new chickens living in his office. He wasn’t as pleased about my “pointless” fish though, but I am loving my little aquarium. It’s next to my aerogarden and it’s such a happy little corner.
Anyway.
We need to push back the retaining wall in the backyard. Well *need* might be a little strong. But the wood panels are rotted out and need to be replaced. Right now it’s 2.5 high and the field of poison oak beyond is starting to travel down and I am so severely allergic my arms are constantly covered is weeping wounds. We’re going to push it back til it’s at 4 ft and then build the chicken run, originally it was supposed to be 10 by 8, but now I’m thinking it needs to be 12 by 8 minimum.
We’ve been chipping away at excavating ourselves but with between the kids, the boulders, and my rash reaction it’s just not worth it, we need someone with a machine so we hired someone to come excavate it next week. With the space, our backyard will eventually be dining area w pergola, chicken run/coop, fenced in garden area, swing set and jungle gym for the kids, goat shed/area, then Justin’s big shed that he hopes to break ground on this summer. When we’re done with that we’re going to build steps up to access our side yard, clear and level the clearing, and then put pavers or bricks down for a fire pit area.
I am absolutely obsessed with our property. I want to utilize as much of it as we can, and I never want to take for granted that we are lucky to have land and live somewhere breathtakingly beautiful. Life isn’t perfect by any means, but I still feel like I’m living the dream.
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lady-lycany · 5 months
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This whole month, I've been starving for meat again and I don't know why. Everyday now, I have either one of the raw meat cups like in my earlier post or bacon or salami or whatever. And I mean like, without anything. Not on bread or something. That's not enough. I wonder when that phase is gonna end again lol. (watching dog asmr how they eat raw meat doesn't really help with it lmao. I know, that all these things probably wouldn't taste good for my human taste buds, and I have my problems with different textures in food too, but the wolf part in me just misses this type of food so much. It looks so fcking delicious. Raw liver, venison, quail eggs, chicken feet, geese necks, duck heads, You name it... What would I give to transform and just devour all that.)
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rederiswrites · 1 year
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What kinds of critters do you have? I think I’ve seen you talk about chickens, ducks and sheep, is that all of them?
Besides the cats, which are a bigger hassle than the rest put together, that's it. We did keep quail for a bit, but ultimately that was not a good fit. I think quail would be absolutely fantastic for, say, city dwellers, but being super conservative of space is really not a big goal here. It's also worth noting that the ducks we've loved are Muscovy, which are quite different from most domestic duck varieties. Importantly, they're very quiet. A lot of ducks are....not.
I think those are more or less the ones we'll stick with, except for my deep seated lifelong desire to have a donkey. You can keep donkeys with sheep as guardian animals--one donkey will bond with the sheep and is an extremely effective deterrent to predators. Aside from maybe a very unexpected bear, a donkey is 100% game to stove in the skull of anything else around here that might bother sheep. You can use llamas the same way, but I do not have a deep seated lifelong desire to possess a tremendously expensive animal that looks like it was drawn by a 4 year old. Someday. Someday we'll have our donkey.
I was at a local commercial farm a while back, picking up feed, and noticed that they had both a donkey and a llama. I asked the farmer which he thought was the better guardian animal overall, and he said that they were both a pain in his ass [affectionate].
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