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ashchoo · 1 month
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the wife <3<3<3<3<3
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I get the impression that money was a bit tight on clouds on the horizon in general, what with the uneven time put into the lumity kiss vs the hexsquads fight outside blight manner w/ the infamous cha cha slide, plus background details going wonky (like baloony hunter), but my favourite semi-wonky frames are the closeups on Hunters face when he's talking with Luz about him being a grimwalker.
bc the proportions are just. So funny to me. Why is his nose so long. Why are his eyes in the middle of his face. When did his forehead get so big. What's happening. Did I die. Is this purgatory. I unironically love this bc it reminds me that this show was made by people who were trying their best. And sometimes their best looks the Bunter Vs hexsquad fight in thanks to them and other times it looks like this
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[ID: a screenshot of a close-up on Hunters face from clouds on the horizon. The placement and proportions of his face are slightly off. End ID]
(although in searching for this image I was informed that a different studio than normal animated clouds on the horizon. Which is probably at least part of the reason why there's so many bungled frames. Also probably why the cha cha slide got animated the way it did. God I love animation)
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drbtinglecannon · 2 years
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Goddamn Alador's face here.
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He said he hasn't had a day off in 5 years and it fucking shows in his appearance & demeanor -- things that were chalked up to just be his personality but are maybe actually signs of his suffering -- but when you see Odalia threatening to really put the kids to manual labor the palpable fear on his face is devastating. (Like, her own kids!!!! It probably would've fallen mostly on Amity as she's the one skilled with abomination, but also probably would've resulted in forcing the twins to get abomination sigil sealed instead of studying any of their actual interests)
I feel bad hating him before, like yeah he was neglectful to the point of not talking to his kids prior to this pivotal moment of him finally standing up to her, but with this context revealed he probably hasn't really had a chance to talk to any of them since like... Amity's bday party where they forced her to ditch Willow, lest they become worked like cattle too. He's beaten down and mistreated but if he just shoulders it all himself at least the kids won't get too much of the overflow abuse, right?
Makes you wonder what his side of the bargain was to keep her from exploiting the kids, or how it got to that bargain to begin with. If the closeness they displayed back at Hexside was ever genuine, or if Odalia sought him out specifically thanks to Oracle magic and seeing a wealthy future and it was all some long con, or if maybe it was genuine at one point but then eventually over time it rotted from the core and suddenly Alador found himself locked into this nightmare.
This reveal alone really gives a lot of justification to all of Alador's previous behaviors, and thanks to King of all people he finally got to get out of dodge and save the kids in the process. Good for him. Happy divorce, dude
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bmblboop · 2 years
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Character Dynamics I’d wanna see in an Eda Spinoff
Give me Raine and Eda and Lilith and everyone at Grom
Give me the between-the-walls hideout being Eda’s base of operations/safeplace at Hexside
Give me Eda saying something flirty, Raine saying something flirty back and Eda blue-screening because no one’s ever done that before and she doesn’t know what to do.
Give me Raine trying to nickname every group project with an acronym that ends in -ATS.
Give me the RATS Play
Give me Eda and Lilith playing Grudgby together
Give me an episode or two where Lilith gives in and takes a break from her self-induced stress over school/Covens and has fun with everyone.
Give me Odalia ruining someone’s day with divination magic ie. ‘The spirits look unfavorably upon you’ and then someone having the worst shit luck possible for the duration of the episode
Give me Aladarius crumbs I want the Drama
Give me more P A L I S M E N
Give me Young Darius vs Young Raine theater kid drama. I want a full blown rivalry. I want ‘I will never work with you’ to be said in their first shared episode. I want the richest dramatic irony. I want scenes we can screenshot and say: “One day, these two will work together to overthrow the emperor”
Give me a ‘whoops an abomination experiment went wrong and now we are handcuffed together even though we hate each other’ episode
Give me VP Bump becoming Principal Bump
Give me the scenario in which Darius meets the Golden Guard, and how he became his mentee
Give me the first half in the seven months before Eda gets cursed, and punch us in the gut with the second half, set after she gets cursed
Give me Lilith spiraling in fear and guilt over the curse and wanting so desperately to tell someone but holding back every time she gets close. Give me Raine trying to figure out what Eda is hiding from them until she caves and tells them she’s been cursed. Give me the sisters’ first falling-out if you want to see me cry
Give me a heartbreaking doomed mentor plot line where GG helps Darius become the best version of himself, how to think critically and use his magic to the fullest, only for GG to perish or ‘disappear under mysterious circumstances’ by the end of the show. Give me Darius’ suspicions of foul play and sowing the seeds of rebellion against the Emperor
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fortunelowtier · 1 year
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AHAHAHA GET FUCKED ODALIA, BITCH
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nekostar4004-1 · 2 years
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I'm curious if we ever gonna see development with Odalia.
So far I don't really dislike her for being some type of antagonist or bad mother (I usually don't hate characters who are written to be bad, unless it's shou tucker, fuck that bitch I despise him with every inch of my being.)
But I also don't like/find interest in antagonist characters who are written to be bad just for the sake of it without any motivation behind, if they're interesting or mysterious enough to keep my interest while just for being bad, then I have nothing against it. But so far Odalia didn't really impress me with that (personality wise), I feel like all that evil was there for no particular reason but to give Amity the background of her downfall. Which I think could've been done without making her mother such an annoying karen or that unnecessary evil by making an abomination attack her daughter for protecting her friends (unless you aim for a psycho parent, in which case I'd assume you'll give her a major role later on but that doesn't seem to be the case) what I'm saying is, if she's a background character don't make it exagerated for no reason.
I wasn't one of those who had to wait every week for new episodes while s1 was airing, I binged it in like 1-2 days (I'm a late fan). But despite that, I imagined Odalia to be manipulative in a sense that wasn't "right in your face" type of way, like being subtle about it and heck even trick people that she was a nice person and Amity was just being unreasonable towards her (if Amity displayed hate/deslike towards her before we meet her) until it was shown that she's nothing like the mask she wears, and give the audience a moment of realization when it happened like "Oh, it all makes sense now". Idk I think it would've add more to her character. I want to like her as an antagonist, not be annoyed by her.
A background idea I had for Odalia if the writers ever decide to do more about her, is that her reason/obsession to make Amity thrive comes from her probably failing as a student when she was the same age (and an Irony to that will be Alador being in like top 5 best students if he was competing with Darius, I'd put Eda no.1 and Lilith no.2) and from there other ideas can rise. Now it's not a necessity to give Odalia a sad backstory for that and have her parents disappointed in her or something like that (this theme is overused) but maybe have her tricking herself into a mindset where power=success and gain power by all means weather good or bad will give you the success you're thriving for and make yourself known. And for more interest points, make that become an obsession where she feels that even with all the power she gains is "never enough" and that obsession will eventually center her attention towards her kids and that's where Amity comes in. I haven't figured yet a more clear reason or start as to why this happened but so far the middle is like this.
And I just realized how much I rambled about a background character. That tends to happen whenever I see potential somewhere lol.
Edit: well season 2b happened and now I'm disappointed. Ignore everything I just said. I'll proly make another post on things I deslike about season 2b.
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acewithapaintbrush · 1 year
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"My dad has the hots for your dad!"
Amity can only stare as Hunter slams his hands down on the table she is working at. He glares at her with narrow eyes and a mouth pressed firmly into a thin line. The perfect picture of determination and confidence. 
"What. Did you just say?" 
He immediately deflates at her pointed and icy tone. His hands leave her table and fidget with his overalls and hair instead while he squirms from side to side, eyes averted and cheeks blushing. 
"I-uhm. I read that in one of Mama Camila's books. It- well, I mean, it means-" 
Amity cuts him off. "I know what it means. Didn't Camila forbid you from reading them?" 
Them being the small paperbacks with the half naked humans on the front. Usually a woman in distress with a very well built male, rescuing her from certain doom with wet hair and big abs. The first time Camila had caught Hunter reading one of them she'd almost burst a blood vessel and ripped it right out of his hands. 
"Nonononono," she had chanted and hugged a perplexed Hunter to her chest, carding a hand through his hair. "Those books are way too spicy for an innocent, cute boy like you!" 
Hunter huffs and puffs. "I'm an adult. She can't tell me what to read." At Amity's raised eyebrow he mutters "And she didn't find the one hidden under my mattress." 
He shakes his head and takes her shoulders to shake her a little. She allows it, 'cause she can see how agitated he is. "But that's not the point! Darius has… he likes your dad. As in like-like! And we gotta figure out how we feel about that." 
Amity thinks about Darius. The dashing rebel, who had been pulling the strings of an uprising in the shadows from the start. A headstrong abomination user. He would definitely be a big step up from Odalia, that's for sure. 
She imagines Darius as her father's new partner and discovers that she is more than okay with that. 
Amity is not naive. She knows her father needs a headstrong partner at his side, someone who is not afraid to take the reins in a relationship. Not like Odalia, who's taken that to mean that she should micromanage every facet of his life and turn him into someone he is not, but someone who reminds her father to eat and to leave work alone every once in a while. 
"I approve." Amity says and seeing Hunter's desolate expression narrows her eyes. "You got a problem with my dad?" 
"What?" Hunter lets her shoulders go as if they have burned him. "No, of course not! He's super cool! I just… Arrrrrg!" He rapidly runs his hands through his hair. "I just don't know if I can handle a second parental figure!"
"Uhhh."
He starts walking up and down in front of her, Waffles flying after him with happy little trills. "Things with Darius are good right now. He told me to call him Dad and it's… It's yeah, you know? But it's also a bit awkward sometimes, you know? The only father figure I ever had before… Well. And we are still trying to find our rhythm, you know? How am I supposed to deal with another parent right now?"
"Hunter!" Amity has to shout to get him to stop. She can't believe she is having this conversation right now. "Hunter. You do know that you have like, four parental adults in your life. Don't you?" 
He blinks at her and his blank face tells her everything she needs to know. She wants to face-palm so bad right now. "What?" 
Amity starts counting on her hand. "You call Camila Mama Camila." 
"Wha- But that's just-", he splutters. Amity talks right over him. 
"Eda calls you her Fledgling at least once a week and she and Raine are kinda a packaged deal. Grandma and Grandpa Clawthorne call you son so often, I don't even know if they know your real name. Every time Lilith fusses over your scars she mutters 'my poor boy' under her breath. And let's not forget Willow's parents who took one look at you and had the adoption papers ready." Amity looks at her hands, which have barely been enough to count on. "Oh look at that. Not four but eight, actually."
Hunter looks gobsmacked and not a little teary eyed. Amity pats his shoulders, just a little relieved that he has apparently forgotten about their parents budding romance over this new revelation. She'd rather not get involved in that for as long as possible. 
"Face it, Hunter. You are pretty much public son number one at this point." 
🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦
There is no reason for this except that I had the image of hunter saying "my dad has the hots for your dad" and me running with it
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evies20dollars · 2 years
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God this episode really was such a good critique of capitalism and how it's literally destroying our planet, but those with power don't care so long as they turn a profit. When Amity said this line, it hit so hard for me and the metaphor only kept going from there. 
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This right here is a feeling that I think a lot of gen z and millennials feel. We’ve been protesting for years and of course we shouldn’t stop raising our voices, but it seems like no matter how much we do, even the world leaders who pretend to care won’t lift a finger if it means they don’t continue to get the political donations and profits they want.
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In terms of the capitalism critique as well we have Odalia shown to exploit her workers (as well as abuse her husband) and threaten to force their children into child labor as well if he does not comply with her demands (and tbh we've already seen towards the start of season 2 that she forces Amity already to demonstrate for Blight Industries).
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The shipment imagery of a tired Kikimora picking things up draws comparisons in my mind to Amazon warehouses and the haste in which things must be shipped to people, always to the harm of the workers in the factory.
Also, to drive the point home further, we have Odalia using the word ‘business’ constantly, even when not literally talking about Blight Industries.
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And of course, we can’t forget the way companies wipe their hands of any responsibility for how their products might be used, drawing a huge comparison in my mind to the U.S. military industrial complex, for instance how the U.S. companies (Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, etc.) and the U.S. government itself routinely sell arms weapons to other countries, frequently in support of genocides like what is occurring in the show (Bangladesh is one example off the top of my head, but there are many others).
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The U.S. military also happens to be one of the biggest carbon emitters in the world (see here and here), bringing the climate crisis metaphor full circle. 
This episode was so fucking good and I really appreciate everything the team did here-- they really went all out this episode to criticize capitalism and on the platform of Disney, a notoriously capitalistic and monopolizing company no less? Fucking iconic.
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yardsards · 1 year
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willow at amity in 1x15: i can't say we're friends, but it's... a start
amity at alador in 2x14: it's a start.
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luz at amity in 2x8: everything is so crazy right now, and i have no idea what my future holds, but it would be so cool if you were in it
amity at luz in 3x1: i know things are scary, and i don't know what the future holds, but it would be so cool if you were a part of that
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alador at odalia (in front of amity) in 2x20: this is too much, even for you
amity at boscha in 3x2: this is a bit much, even for you
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i love her little tendency to use social scripts she learned from other people
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sepublic · 2 days
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The Owl House Pilot Leak!!!
            Oh my titan.
            The Owl House’s original pilot episode (basically a bunch of voiced-over storyboards) just got leaked and OMT. Watching it felt like experiencing the original magic of the show all over again… Reminding me what it was like to fall in love the first time!!! The hype and rush, the excitement to type down my thoughts after a new episode, analyzing and gushing over both big and small moments, the details!!! The pilot has reiterated all over to me again why I love these characters, from Luz's powerful earnestness, to Eda's chaotic demeanor! It’s like having the whole show open ahead of me, the possibilities endless when knowing this is just the beginning and we could go anywhere from here!
            What’s interesting is that Luz’s conflict with Camila doesn’t really exist here; In fact Camila isn’t present or mentioned at all! What brings Luz to the isles is Amity, who’s been learning in the human world, under the guise of being a human by disguising her ears! It’s alluded to that Odalia and Alador made her do it, though we don’t know why…
            But WOW that must’ve been so meta, doing S3 with Amity stuck in the human world with Luz, hiding her ears! It must’ve been a fun way to bring back the older concepts in new form! And indeed, we see a couple of stuff we’ve already gotten glimpses of, such as the storyboards of Luz offering her friendship art to Amity! I love that we get to see the actual scenario of how Amity accidentally defended Luz in the first place, since we heard that but didn’t get to see how it turned out.
            It’s interesting that Lumity is basically the inciting incident of the story, though I can see why the final version opted instead to emphasize Luz’s conflict with her mother. Especially with how she chooses to stay in the isles in the final draft, which leads to guilt over lying to her mom, having her ‘coming out’ moment that eventually occurs in Yesterday’s Lie, etc. So more agency when it comes to Luz losing her access to the human world. Plus in the pilot, there isn't the same emphasis on Luz trying to live out her dreams of being a witch, and her obsession with stories that ties back to Manny and forms the basis for a lot of other themes and arcs.
            That said, I also appreciate what this alternate take offers, and how Lumity helps tie everything together, it really is the queerness that is such a foundational part of the ‘weirdness’ theme that the show is about, and it’s intertwined with the pilot! God Luz being heartbroken when Amity dismisses the drawing… And then crying when Eda compliments it without realizing who it’s about! Or maybe she did, she could’ve recognized Luz there and figured out a way to stealthily make Luz feel better…!
            I love Luz routinely lock-picking her locker because she presumably forgot the combination! And it’s interesting that we have a setup of there being multiple dimensions that the Boiling Isles has access to, and not just the human world and Demon Realm. That plays a role in the climax, more on that later. Given we have what is basically an airport for different dimensions, I wonder if we would’ve seen Luz find her way back home much earlier on, under much less intense circumstances, in a S1A episode?
            The ‘Emperor’ is also alluded to in the pilot, which we didn’t get actual mention of until the fifth episode in the final show. He apparently dislikes humans and wants Luz brought over to him, is this still operating off of the ‘Pupa’ version of the character who claimed to speak on behalf of the true ruler, trapped in their metamorphosis by him? So maybe he wasn’t always human, or maybe this is Belos’ hypocritical way of ‘protecting’ humans by keeping them away and in blissful ignorance of the demon realm.
            We also establish Hexside much earlier! IIRC Hexside was always part of the show, but executives pushed for it to have more emphasis, which the crew continued to follow through on in S2 onwards because that had already been set up. Lilith is the principal, and I recognize the storyboards of her, including her bat transformation! We get a Tinella Nosa cameo, we see Amity, and there’s also a brief cameo of Willow too! Nice way to set her up before her proper debut.
            The ‘barrier’ containing King’s crown turns out to just be a regular human locker, which makes me wonder if the writers updated the final draft to make it a force field that only allows humans through, because of the whole Belos twist. Which makes me wonder if in this draft, Belos is Pupa, who never was human, or maybe they realized the opportunity to insert foreshadowing into a big twist regarding the main villain. Makes me wonder if the house we see Amity enter in the pilot, which is on sale, would've had any significance like in the final show. Love how Tinella Nosa is a student at Hexside, and also Dana having to occasionally insert lines for Wendie Malick and others was great.
            Lilith is a lot more openly adversarial, which is different compared to how her actual debut provides a softer side to her; I imagine this would’ve been apparent in a later episode of the ‘Pilot AU’, and her transformation has me curious; Was she originally the one with the curse, but then the writers changed it to Eda? Or did they both have a curse? Eda also has an owl form she can summon and control at Will, maybe all Clawthornes have a beast mode that’s less of a curse and more of a talent. Lilith ends up trapped in another dimension, which makes me wonder if she’d have a temporary replacement –possibly Pilot Bump- or if she’d return offscreen. We see the portal key get destroyed under much more casual circumstances, though it’s less as big of a deal for this and the established ‘dimension port’ we saw before.
            (Also, Amity recognizing Luz in the hallway… Everything to me!!!)
            Warden Wrath doesn’t exist and neither does the Conformatorium, it’s Lilith and Hexside. With her as principal and Amity as student, I wonder if we would’ve gotten more of their relationship in the pilot AU, if Covention was a way of carrying over that former connection since Amity would be a teacher’s pet in either version of the story. And speaking of ties to Covention, it’s interesting is that Eda’s chest gem seems to be linked to the Emperor’s Coven, as ‘Pilot Kikimora’ uses it to control her. Curiously, we have a scene at the end mirroring what we got with Lilith in the final draft of the show!
            I feel it implies that Eda DID join the Emperor’s Coven with Lilith, if only for a brief moment, but then defected; But the chest gem is basically the pilot version of the Emperor’s sigil, except with the explicit function of being a shock collar. I find it interesting that Eda still has the mirror to contact the EC with, instead of just getting rid of the thing. Is she a rogue agent who hasn’t totally cut ties, because she can’t? Won’t?
And the fact that Pilot Kikimora can just shock Eda at will makes me wonder if the Emperor is low-key just letting Eda roam around, which makes me wonder if he’s aware of the familial connection, is using Eda to find Luz, already knows about her doing that because of the time loop, etc. We’d of course have gotten an episode where Luz finds out about Eda’s connection and helps her deal with the gem… I realize now that Luz learning Eda also wanted to join the EC with Lilith is a carryover of this idea.
I can see the ups and downs between both versions; The final draft sets up Luz’s conflict with Camila and the reality camp, which is foundational to her character arc throughout the whole show. Her pain over being ‘sent away’ is just so vital that I appreciate its inclusion in the first episode. But I also like the inclusion of Lumity and the earnest desire to be friends with someone who showed her, unwittingly, any kindness at all! We get explicit bullying from Luz’s peers in the pilot, but in the final draft we also get her thoughtlessness that plays a big part in her S1 arc. And Luz’s arrival in the isles is more intertwined with Eda and King in the final version, which also feels right; The show is about these three in particular!
All in all, this was wonderful to watch! The magic was experienced all over again, not just in watching an episode, but also commentating on one that was just ‘released’ as well? I thought the last time I’d do anything like this was with the series finale Watching and Dreaming… But as Luz said, it really comes full circle with watching the first episode all over again! So maybe we have other stuff to still look forward to after all… At the very least, we have an eternal anticipation with an unexplored universe ahead of us, that will never reach completion; So it's like our ever-lasting final gift from TOH, and a good last one. So until next time: BBBBBYYYYYEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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djljpanda · 1 year
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Hiii can I please have a The collector(The Owl House) x male reader? Just something platonic with the reader and the collector cuddling pls🫶
Tw/ Spoilers For The Future
Alrighty. This Is My First The Owl House Request And Fanfic So Wish Me Luck.
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The collector couldn't sleep cause after everything that is happening is still a shock for him.
When he tried to wake up king he wouldn't budge so he left the room to search for something to distract him as he wander the halls, he had found you his 'father'.
"Y/n-Dad!", you jumped turning around to see the star like child. "Oh collector shouldn't you be in bed" "Well I couldn't sleep and King wont wake up so I thought me and you can play" "Well sorry collector you do need rest" "No I want to play" "But you do need rest" "No" "Yes" "No" "Yes" "No!".
The collector screamed crossing his with an angry face. "You know if you sleep you can play a lot more and have more energy" "But I have nothing to sleep with" "What if I put you to sleep, doesn't that sound nice".
So here you were with the collector as you started to tell him a story about how the sun tried to marry the moon but she could not as she had to take care of he daughter.
"So that is why we have a crescent moon, Collector?", you said looking down seeing the small child laying on your chest.
"Good night Collector"
Bonus-
Odalia: Where have you been all night
Y/n: Being a parent
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milfcamilanoceda · 1 year
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Toh spoiler
But it's like not even the fact that The Collector is a child, it is the fact that he is a child surrounded by toxic and abusive adults. Like it is not a coincidence that the three adults they interacted with this episode were all established toxic adults and people who should have never been allowed to be around children and spent all their time imposing their power over kids whether it be Terra being your classic sadistic teacher making them play her sick games and joking about 'killing'and 'poisoning' them, or Odalia who is controlling mother who saw her kids more as an investment, or Philip who literally creates grimwalkers just to kill them off. Like this is so fucked up. Like with Terra and Odalia couldnt do shit to Collector cause neither of them have any power over him and yet they still try to insult him or manipulate them, but Philip, my fucking god Philip back on his bullshit. He knows how Collector is and how to manipulate him and it is just so fucked up!!! After centuries of being alone with only Philip as company, they are finally free only for Philip coming back and starting manipulating him and you just know he was going to possess them before switching. And KCHIXUTZUTXYICHCCOYCIYGX Collector just wants to be a kid and play games and he genuinely loves King and thinks of him as his best friend but they are surrounded by The worst adults ever and i wont be surprised if the other collectors were like that.
Also the sheer contrast of this with Camila and Eda and Lilith being a genuinely loving and worried adults. Camila who is not only worried about her own kid but the physical, mental, and emotional health of every single kid in that school and just trying really hard to stay strong and that conversation with Luz VOUFIYIYFIHDIYXGUIFYF7AR. And Eda and Lilith being in absolutely hopeless situation but still trying everything they can to help King and HNNNNGGGHHHH. Someone please pluck Collector out of there and put them into the arms an actually caring parent he needs this, he deserves this.
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lizard-dumbass · 1 year
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Alright so the TOH brainrot has come back in full force after the finale came out so now i too am making one of them lists of things that i liked/stuck out to me. Also sorry if this ends up just being a bunch of incoherent nonsense
HOLY SHIT TITAN!LUZ. the design is so cool what more can i say. Furthermore,
HOLY FUCK LUZ DIED????? i was so not expecting that and good lord was it heartbreaking. Eda and King's reaction to Luz's death were also heartbreaking, and so was the Collector finally realizing what death really is. And oh my god puppet!Camila crying as the balls of light pass by her, showing us that she has had the realization that her daughter died. After the grief and trauma of losing Manny, Camila and Luz had a heart to heart which made their bond stronger than ever, only for Camila to lose Luz aswell.
LUZ SAID THE THING! NOW EAT THIS SUCKAAAAAA!!!!!
THE BOILING ISLES IS BIGENDER BABY! i honestly love the titan so much now. His bad girl coven t-shirt and glyph pants and dad-bod are absolutely everything. (Also what's with the little hooty worm sticking out of her eye socket??)
The goddamn bread pun 😭 that warms my heart so much
The raeda in this episode was IMMACULATE. I was really hoping for a kiss but i'm still happy with what WAD gave us. The loving stares, Raine's absolute joy when Eda and Titan!Luz came to their rescue in the throne room, the hugs and nuzzles, the cuddling in their new nest, etc. They seem so relaxed and happy at the end. The world has been saved and now they can finally live their lives together and rekindle their relationship. Oh and how could i forget the EARRING SWAP!! they're wearing eachother's earrings!!! I've seen quite a few ppl interpreting the exchanging of earrings/jewelry as a marriage custom in the demon realm, implying that Eda and Raine are married in the timeskip. I never cared much for the idea of raeda getting married but you know what? I like this headcanon.
Raine whistling raine's rhapsody/eda's reqiuem.
Hunter is a palisman carver! And he has a new palisman! Apparently the little blue jay's name is Waffles and that's just adorable.
Raine also has a palisman now and it's a little fox! I wonder what their name is though.
The entire hexsquad has matching Flapjack tattoos! Also Flapjack's grave, that gave me so many feels. But im so happy to see how Hunter has healed!
Harpy Lilith!
Eda is the principal of a school now?
Eda's hook arm! Also just everyone's new outfits/appearances in general. I love Raine's fully white hair and their scars and their outfit just oozes gender. I love Luz's outfit and punk eyeliner. I love Amity's hairstyle. I love how Lilith kept her short ginger hairstyle. I love Gus's new hair and his little beard. I love Willow's shorter hair and sporty outfit. Mattholomule has a real mustache now!
Fuck yeah they figured out how to remove sigils so now the BI residents can do magic like the Titan really intended!
Aladarius canon??
Everyone reuniting with their dads. Amity running to Alador whilst Odalia just stands at the side with an annoyed face. Fucking priceless. Willow's dads kissed on screen! Hunter thinking no one would be there for him only for Darius and Eberwolf to show up and accept him into their family. my heart 😭❤️
Eda and Camila finally got to meet!
Luz reuniting with King and Eda made me sob so unbelievably hard.
Luz and Vee graduated together!
Luz goes to college in the demon realm!
I thought she was giving all her Azura stuff away at first but i think she's actually bringing it all with her to college.
I love everything about Luz's quinceañera (or should i say KING-ceañera)
I love the very last part where every character we've come to know and love over these 3 wonderful years (except Odalia lmfao) say "Byeee!" to the audience. What a perfect way to end this series.
I think that's it lol i have so many thoughts
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One of TOH's big problems is that the characters are very clearly divided into black and white, which just leads to other problems.
In season 1, they tried to make characters more complicated. There were also characters like Willow and Gus, but the rest still had more elaborated and realistic characters. Amity wasn't a thoroughly bad person, she had some positive moments, but she bullied Willow. Twins were shitty siblings with violent jokes, but they were still not antagonists, they could apologize to Amity and even tried to help her, not forgetting to play a joke with her. Eda was a good person from the very beginning, but at the same time she was a fraud and a shitty teacher. Lilith was a villain with a more or less human motivation. Camila loved Luz and wanted the best for her, even in ways that were unpleasant for her. Yes, even for the first time Hunter, even though he was an antagonist, was also not a black and white villain who is evil because he is evil.
And then everything sank into oblivion. The actions of twins haven't been mentioned, now they never prank anyone and behave like caring, stupid siblings, especially Emira. Camila says that she was wrong about everything, Luz was just expressing herself when she brought dangerous snakes and fireworks to school, and Camila is actually a nerd like her daughter (although I'm sure now she will indulge Luz in any of her whims, otherwise Luz will run away again). Lilith is now a cool insecure nerdy aunt. Amity and Hunter... Enough has already been said about them. Eda doesn't mention crimes anymore, she's just a caring mom in love with her ex. And the fucking Alador lost all his sins and it turns out he was just standing on the sidelines while his wife abused the children and himself, yes, truly believable.
And in the meantime, the antagonists who didn't have time to be redeemed, even those who had the motivation, became evil for evil's sake. The whole past of Belos? Oh, guys, I'm sorry, he's just born evil, the local god himself told us. Can Odalia really love children and wish them the best? No, she hates them, she needs money, money, money, she's stupid and supports genocide for money, yeah! Kikimora has family problems (like Lilith)? Fuck it, she's just dumb and mean. Only Boscha partially avoided this, but it's true that what was done to her was also badly prescribed (they scored on her for a season, then abruptly pulled out when no one needed her anymore). At least they didn't make her Miss Cherry Ice Cream Sweet Girlfriend for Willow, and thanks for that.
I hate that the characters who initially didn’t let me quit the show on the second episode turned into a pathetic semblance of themselves. My God, if I turn on the channel for kids now, the characters from these cartoons will have more character than Amity and Hunter in season 3. TOH wants to seem like an adult cartoon raising adult problems, but his characters are on the level of first Disney movies about princesses. Here you have evil villains who deserve only death and good characterless cardboards, you should feel sorry for them. In 2021-2023, it's completely irrelevant.
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Oh, the great maker of trauma for the beans that are part of Princess Luz Au, heed my query and answer me:
Did Luz get any big bad evil guy energy or skill from being raised by the waste of space previously known as Belos?
I mean as we all know Luz is a precious bean, but I think she deserves to be a little evil towards bad people, like I assume that Hunter is already planning how to murder (or worse) Amity's parents, even if he isn't fully aware of it/is in denial that he is planning the horrors on the for making Amity, but I stay with me for a moment and imagine the verified cinnamon roll Luz Noceda Wittebane putting the fear of Titan into Odalia after learning that she abused Amity.
Also, her snapping out of it after Odalia faints out of fear (and pain), and panicking that she is just like below only for her parteners to be like, 'nooo~ it was hot normal and perfectly sane thing to do'.
this answer Might be disappointing in some ways, mainly: i don't Think luz would be physically violent with them without provocation, and i also don't think she's likely to lose emotional control around them. she'd want to be just as poised around amity's parents as she always was around belos and always is around the coven heads.
HOWEVER. as for the questions of "does luz know how to be scary" and "did she learn that from belos": UNEQUIVOCAL yes. to both.
i've been wanting to play with luz in this space with amity's parents for A While, actually, so. have a little fic :)
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"Oh, Amity is my pride and joy," Odalia says, placing a hand over her heart. "I taught her everything she knows."
"Yes, I did get that impression." The Empress smiles, rising to her feet. "It's incredible how much she's accomplished in spite of you."
Odalia's breath catches around a shocked, bitten-down laugh. "Your Majesty, begging your pardon, I believe you meant 'because of-'"
"In spite of," Luz repeats, very firmly. "It's fortunate that Lilith Clawthorne has taken such an interest in her wellbeing."
Odalia's smile doesn't waver, but it does remain frozen for several seconds before she says, "I suppose Amity feels the need to invent an adversary. Some great trial she overcame to earn her place here. It's understandable. Children often lack the foundation to understand the sacrifices their parents make. She had a very privileged upbringing."
"Amity has never spoken unkindly of either of you," Luz says, although this she seems to mean more for Alador, whose face may give more away.
She steps lightly down the stairs from the throne, joining the pair of them on the ground. "Amity rarely speaks of either of you at all, actually. That isn't why I've called you here."
Odalia's voice turns cool, corporate. "Then how can we help you, Your Majesty?"
"Did you know that Blight Industries has a higher rate of workplace accidents than..." Luz slides a folder out of her tunic, flips it open, and raises her eyebrows. "...any other company on the Isles?"
This time, Odalia's laugh covers something else. "That's - that's preposterous. Our workplace safety records are excellent. Why, we haven't needed a single intervention by the Healing Coven in... oh, is it three years?" She taps the side of her mouth, frowning. "Four? Five?"
"That's fascinating," Luz says. "Not even for a scrape?"
"Abrasions heal quite well by themselves, given time."
"Absolutely fascinating," Luz repeats. "Did you know that it's illegal to purposefully deny people healing services?"
Odalia scoffs, incredulous. "For scrapes?"
"I know," Luz says pleasantly, "I was surprised, too. There are a lot of laws like that, it turns out. Text on paper that hasn't been enforced in half a century. From what I understand, this one is a holdover from early Empire anxieties. People were terribly worried about not having access to personal healing magic anymore. So healing services had to be protected."
Odalia's smile has become more teeth than pleasantry. "What a fun little history lesson. I'm sure you know all sorts of facts about the early Empire."
"It turns out that it's very easy to put laws in writing," Luz says, "without the intention to enforce them. My father, may the Titan bless him, had precious little interest in the rights of individuals to be seen by healers. But this isn't his Empire anymore. And I find the topic just captivating."
Odalia has stopped trying to hide her impatience, now. "So you'll fine us for not having healers on hand to wave away every little paper cut. That's fine. I apologize for the oversight. We'll settle up and make sure that going forward-"
"Mr. Blight," Luz says, ignoring Odalia entirely, "would you kindly remove your gloves for me?"
Alador startles.
Odalia doesn't glance at him. Her eyes are fixed unblinking on Luz. She speaks through her teeth, nearly a hiss. "Don't feel compelled to do that, dear."
"I assure you, I can compel him to do that," Luz says. Then, in a tone that would almost pass for apologetic if it wasn't so practiced, "I am sorry to compel it of you. I try not to compel my subjects very often. But if you find it difficult to remove your gloves, my scouts would be happy to assist you."
The scouts around the base of the throne don't move. Odalia's eyes slide uneasily over them anyway.
"That won't be necessary," Alador says, speaking for the first time. He pulls the gloves off without fanfare, holding up his hands.
Half of his left ring finger and pinky are conspicuously missing.
If Luz is uncomfortable with this revelation, she sure isn't showing it. "Oh, that's so interesting," she says, leaning forward to get a closer look. "The Healing Coven keeps meticulous records, and I'm certain a partial amputation was never reported to them. You were born with all five fingers, yes? I'm sure Amity will attest to that."
"This was from an accident in my personal lab," Alador says, with the mechanical precision of something rehearsed. "The severed digits were not... salvageable."
"It's so amazing that you were able to make that determination," Luz says, "without even needing to consult the Healing Coven. You must be a very proficient magician."
Alador blinks.
"Regardless," Odalia interrupts, "it happened outside of Blight Industries. The company isn't liable. You haven't 'gotten' us."
"Do you ever test Blight Industries products in your personal lab, Mr. Blight?"
"Prototypes," he says.
Odalia makes a sharp, exasperated gesture. "Alador!"
"That seems like company business to me," Luz says, still pleasant, still conversational. "Now, I will be fully transparent, before you accuse me of anything with regards to prejudice - it is true that I hate you both. It is true that I've hated you both for a while now. If you feel like I'm targeting you because I hate you, then you're very astute."
Odalia's fingers twitch, threatening to curl into fists.
Luz continues, "However, it's also true that there is no bias where my judgment is concerned. Not legally, anyway. So it doesn't matter whether I hate you or not. Whatever I decide to do with you is the Titan's will. Government is amazing."
Odalia exhales sharply.
When Luz doesn't waver, she shakes her head. For the first time, her voice cracks - properly cracks. There's a tiny tremble in her hands.
"Amity won't forgive you if anything happens to us," she says - but there's no bravado, no power, only pathetic uncertainty. "Regardless of any... petty grievances she may harbor. Family is everything to a Blight. She won't forgive this."
"I know that," Luz says. "I promise, I have no intention of doing Amity any unkindness. It's not her fault you two have chosen to be what you are."
Another sharp exhale. Odalia's breathing is ragged, audible. She's clearly not a woman accustomed to fearing for her own safety.
"That's fantastic news!" she chirps.
Luz's smile is beatific, magnanimous. The serene expression of someone who's never questioned the divine right of kings.
"Unfortunately, I'm not wholly opposed to doing an unkindness," she says, "if we can't seem to reach an agreement. It's really up to you how this goes."
She looks from Odalia to Alador and back, tilting her head.
"So. How badly do both of you want to live?"
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Watching and Dreaming spoilers
Just some random headcanons for season 3 (a lot of my Lilith bias is gonna show):
Eda and Lilith did have the big talk about everything between S2 and S3. They both finally opened up about a lot of things and that's when Eda actually forgave Lilith for cursing her.
Eda's haircut was somewhat of a result of a breakdown. Lilith offered to fix it a bit, but Eda refused. Meanwhile, Lilith got her hair cut after the big talk with Eda and she's the one who suggested it to get rid of her past self.
Lilith's glasses got broken when dealing with Owl Beast Eda. She can't see well, but she does see better than Raine did without theirs.
The first puppet to be freed by the Collector was Lilith. She panicked at first cause she remembered what happened in Eda's nightmare. She even quickly checked her hair to be sure it's still ginger.
During her conversation with Amity, the first thing Lilith did was apologize for what happened at the Covention. Amity told her that she was actually grateful for it since it gave a chance to talk to Luz.
Darius' abomination goop tied Odalia's shoes together once they both were turned back.
Steve questioned the Hexsquad about Matt and his safety.
Amity was so excited to introduce Alador and Camila to each other and did it right in front of Odalia on purpose.
She also introduced Lilith to Camila as well.
Mike Socks (Lilith's palisman) has been hiding in Lilith's hood this whole time.
Luz told Camila about Eda being a criminal, but only the sense that extended to Belos' Coven laws. Hooty was to one to mention Eda's other crimes, making the Owl Family very nervous, but Camila was very accepting and didn't mind Eda's other crimes.
Hooty was the one to suggest to make the Owl House and his door the new portal door.
Hooty and Luz love Lilith's new style.
During the Owl Family reunion at the Owl House, Stringbean transformed into a bird.
Luz drew her Titan form for the rest of the Hexsquad to see.
The Hexsquad parents all thanked Camila for taking care of the kids and did a bunch of small favors for her.
Luz introduced the Boiling Isles to the LGBTQ+ community and a bunch of people started wearing colors of their flag thanks to that.
Might think of more stuff later on.
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