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iwouldservehim · 1 year

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At this point I don’t know how many of the people making awful arguments against Rhaenyra are plain stupid, or manilupating facts on purpose/acting with willful cluelessness, and I stopped making a difference.

But to have seen all this uppity, condescending ‘criticism’ about how Rhaenyra should have done better by being a pious and obedient woman enough, and having children with a man blonde enough, and ending it with a flourish about how “burr burr bastards bad” by name-dropping the Blackfyre Rebellion... and not see a single bulb going off about how they prove all their “criticism” is turned to dust by that instead of a big gotcha!

The Blackfyre Rebellion concerns a woman most pious, most obedient, most innocent, most suffering in silence and doing her family duty, who has a most blonde son as her very blonde husband King... and she is accussed of adultery and said son of being a bastard. Only because there was another likewise blonde dude sitting close by that treated said woman in a better way (the bar isn’t even high) than her rapist ‘unworthy’ husband AND likewise because Daeron, just as Rhaenyra, wasn’t conforming to his own (man’s) gender expectations. And so a lot of greedy or bigoted people rubbed their hands at being able to weaponise moralistic buzzword to get theirs (like the whole bunch of you).

Literally NEITHER Daemon Blackfyre or Daeron were even bastards - Daemon was literally legitimised; and don’t go ‘eheheh, but Naerys-’ literally didn’t want to fuck ANOTHER guy, she wanted to be a Westerosi NUN. But either party would throw around the same bullshitting attempts at brainwashing with hidden bigotry behind pretense rightousness to further their own agendas and whatever they deemed was the more beneficial endgame for their own political interests.

If you had any brains or honesty at all, you’d compare Daemon and his supporters trying to depose Daeron to what Aegon and the Greens did to Rhaenyra. Even if Daemon is legitimised, he is Daeron’s younger brother. And he and his party are betting on literally the same hate for gender nonconformance, and throwing around insidous comments about a woman’s sex life, and how it makes her child subhuman.

If Rhaenyra was the most well-behaved and selfless of women, and had the blondest of kids, she would just be Naerys, because the system they live in doesn’t EVER EVER EVER award this glorified duty, sacrifice and compliance - at best, it takes advantage of their convenience. They would have literally easily spilt tales about how they are Daemon’s bastards given their Kingdom wide suspected history and the fact that he’s the next close male relationship around her and also being such a “good, sweet woman” in this scenario comes with a sprinkle of a “this feeble, simpleminded thing wouldn’t even have the ‘manly’ qualities needed in a leader, tsk tsk”, because it has always been about stealing the throne by people who wanted it for themselves, who were always known to want it for themselves, and finding some reason or other for it.

#asoiaf #hotd #anti hotd #rhaenyra targaryen #aegon ii targaryen #daemon blackfyre #daeron ii targaryen

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lastoneout · 9 months

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Talking critically about about One Piece below pls feel free to ignore me completely I just have to get this Out Of My Head or I'ma go insane

So I've reached the "Sanji is transphobic" part of the comic, and while I can't deny that is a very accurate description of his behavior, I must say I'm a little miffed that up to this point I have seen this framed as if it is entirely a problem with Sanji as a character and nothing more when like...THIS is how Oda is choosing to depict trans women:

I have been told that things get better and that there is a trans character in one of the latest arcs, and tbh this is very frustrating bcs I actually quite enjoyed the way the drag queen/gender liberated characters were portrayed in the previous chapters, it wasn't perfect but it was far more nuanced and sympathetic and progressive than what we typically see in anime, so yeah seeing this INTENSE backside directly into what looks borderline indistinguishable from a transphobic political comic is just.....it's not great.

Like I am really desperately trying not to be a Sanji apologist here, bcs his behavior sucks and I will fully acknowledge that, but I think framing this as a "Sanji" problem and not a problem with the comic overall is maybe minimizing the issue.

I will say I think given that the previous depictions of genderfluid and trans characters has been good that Oda isn't trying to be transphobic outright, I doubt he would write cool trans characters if he genuinely hated trans people, and I understand that he's added another trans character, plus the manga has 1088 chapters and this stuff is around chapter 600 so they came out a long while ago and I don't like holding old stuff against people, but yeah it's just weird to me that so much blame is placed on One Single Character as if the manga otherwise is very progressive when again, the narrative and thus the author seem to be validating Sanji's opinion or at least are completely comfortable making a painfully long and very transphobic "creepy predatory man in a dress who others find revolting" joke.

And that's not even getting into the sexism and racism and fatphobia(which ones weird to me also that none of the other characters are labeled as problematic for saying or doing bigoted stuff, it's only Sanji who gets that treatment?? I get he's easy to hate but this inconsistency is bugging me) and like...guys at some point we have to acknowledge that Sanji and all the other characters are behaving a certain way not because they are real people with agency, but bcs they are written by a human who has flaws and biases and yes, uninformed, bigoted opinions.

Plus like...idk imo framing it as a Sanji problem also rings hollow to me bcs again he's not real. It feels like letting the people ACTUALLY responsible off the hook when they're the only ones who have the power to change anything. Sanji didn't decide to be that way on his own, he's incapable of such an action, and he can't change his behavior or the writing of the comic, he isn't real. Oda wrote him and the others like that, and he can change things too.

So maybe just put the blame on the correct shoulders pls. That's all I'm suggesting.

Edit: Also maybe just me but imo there's nothing about Sanji's characterization that signals to me that he would obviously find trans women disgusting?? I know there are plenty of slutty men who love trans women!! And while he is a creep, them writing that the character who most openly loves basically every woman he meets could obviously never find a trans woman beautiful or arousing is like....IT'S A CHOICE.

#got to the transphobic bit and have thoughts #but this is rambly I'm just trying to get my thoughts in order and such #also that panel is just...it's bothering me #honestly is making this part of the comic hard to read #one piece critical #fandom salt #cw tranphobia

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septembersghost · 11 months

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As a WOC I get some of the critiques for Taylor but based on the timing of all this, it does feel sometimes like I’m being used as an excuse to say every filthy thing possible about Taylor. It’s okay to give her a little grace. And the other thing I’ve noticed is even pre that guy people were already being terrible about Taylor the minute Joe was gone. So it kind of makes me feel terrible for her that she really needs a relationship for people to treat her a bit better.

i hear you, you do not deserve to be used as a shield or a prop for people whose central intent is to bash her just because they hate her in general. that's not uplifting or amplifying you, nor anyone.

it's related to why i've been so upset that people are calling m*tty a n*zi - criticize him, criticize his gross and bigoted actions, but the moment they start to misuse very heavy terms like that, terms that have significant meaning, then any rational argument and criticism loses all its weight, and they're making the situation worse. (i wrote a long post about this a couple of weeks ago and then made it private because i was afraid of being attacked on here, which in and of itself speaks to how toxic the conversation had gotten, where we couldn't even speak up and explain why certain parts of it had become harmful).

anyway, the people doing this, talking over woc or other marginalized fans, using inflammatory rhetoric, they don't actually care that any of us were hurt or concerned, they only want the excuse to hate her. it's not fair that anybody should be used to further that toxicity rather than being centered as a person, and it's wrong to see our identities fractured and wielded to tear her apart when that's so far away from what we were trying to talk about when this started. it's very clear to me now how much of this was driven by people who were anxiously awaiting the day they could attack again, to swarm at blood in the water. the vile things being brought back up and said with no hesitation about her, the people openly hoping for her to come to harm, i wouldn't trust a single one of them to truly care if we needed them, you know? because they have done nothing but exhibit a complete dearth of empathy, and vicious enjoyment at ripping a woman to shreds. the impact that all the old accusations have had, all the cruel and sexist press we thought we'd moved past, was just lingering beneath the surface waiting to be pulled up again. i find it very disturbing and unpleasant.

it also makes legitimate criticism difficult because everything always reaches this tipping point, where it goes from rational and thoughtful discussion to unfiltered vitriol. how do we find a balance where we can fairly say, this is why this is upsetting and needs to be taken into account, when everyone ends up turning it into hyperbolic rage like, this person is a disgusting evil narcissist untalented slut and i hope she dies. those are nowhere near the same universe of a conversation!

"it kind of makes me feel terrible for her that she really needs a relationship for people to treat her a bit better." and have you noticed how people define her completely by the man she's with? i said this to a friend, but anyone who believes that sleeping with a dirtbag has ruined her forever is outright perpetuating the most old-fashioned kind of puritanical shaming, where women are judged and seen as tainted because of men. it's awful, it's a really awful mentality to see still happening!

and yeah, it started brewing the moment she and joe broke up. that is not to say she has handled all of this well, there have been a lot of missteps, bad choices, and bad optics, and some of that is probably directly because of the fact that she's struggling with a destabilizing change in her life. we can understand that while not excusing all of it. people are rarely black and white, and this situation has been complicated. disappointment doesn't mean not showing someone any compassion at all. "It’s okay to give her a little grace." i completely agree, and thank you for saying that, you are obviously a kind and thoughtful person. <3 i hope you've been doing okay.

#anonymous #letterbox #i have so many thoughts about the terrible way this has turned and how upsetting it is to see it #thrown out speeches

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lionews · 9 months

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hello everyone! same anon here. while some of you were a bit rude i do understand what you’re saying. i think i need to clarify a bit more on what i mean/respond to some stuff

‘It's mostly because they bitch about how people don't spread their markings and then flex that they don't spread theirs’

‘to the anon defending jester here’s him…”

i do agree he seems to a bit… crass? to put it nicely? it just seems he’s passionate about certain aspects of the game and that’s whatever. on top of that, i think people are allowed to criticize mods and aspects of the game, even if it’s done in a rude manner.

‘here’s jester being EXCITED OVER the panic of not having certain applicator bases anymore’ and i just think that’s a bit… silly? it’s mean, even if it is a joke.

‘jester wants markings to be spread but doesnt want his king’s markings to be spread. jester wants to protect raffle lionesses, jester gets angry over someone agreeing with him (even though imo he seemed to be a bit perturbed rather then angry?)’

the commonality is that these things aren’t real. they don’t matter. while your anger comes from how he acts or hypocrisy of those things and i get that, in the long run it doesn’t really matter.

what i see is a man who is immature, bluenosed about a silly game, but ultimately harmless. he’s not a bigot, or a dangerous person, he’s just… annoying. he’s not worth pages (literal, actual pages on this blog) of your hate because he said something stupid or irksome. it just feels like an echo chamber… like, those sisyphus memes if you will? you aren’t getting anywhere. you’re doing the same things over and over again.

this is getting very VERY long over something i wrote late at night and kind of expected to be glossed over, but what im trying to say is it’s just not worth your time (i would argue that lionews isn’t worth anybody’s time, really, but that’s not my point).

tldr; jester is not worth your time. you should just block him and move on so you can curate your own personal lioden experience. this just doesn’t seem like a good outlit and keeping him unblocked only seems to make you all more and more upset.

i hope this makes more sense… i don’t think ill come back here because this blog makes me very sad… lots of anger, some of it deserved but most of it not.

i doubt i will change anyone’s mind with this? but i thought i’d put it out there anyway. enjoy the rest of your day! 💛 —🌻

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musclesandhammering · 2 years

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MCU Opinions That’ll Have Me Burned At The Stake Pt. 1

(Because it actually worked out really well when I did this for Supernatural. BE WARNED: This is largely Loki-centric.)

1.) I feel like most of the movies/shows released in the last 5 or so years have been heavily geared toward casual fans. And I guess there’s nothing wrong with that! But for me it’s annoying as hell.

2.) I hate the MCU version of Wanda Maximoff so fucking much for many many different reasons.

3.) I have a very strong dislike for the MCU version of Steve Rogers for multiple reasons, mostly because of the level of American imperialist propaganda coded into his character.

4.) The movies’ version of Tony Stark is an objectively better person than Steve, and at this point I’m not even sure if Marvel made the billionaire the Big Hero intentionally as capitalist propaganda or if they just don’t see the irony.

5.) Nebula and Mantis are both way way underrated. They have such interesting backstories and are so sympathetic and likeable and it’s frankly a crime that there aren’t more people stanning for them.

6.) Thanos wasn’t as ground-breakingly complex and multi-layered as the critics and dudebros like to claim. All of his “emotional” scenes could arguably have been genuine in an extremely narcissistic and delusional way, but they’re diminished by the fact that there were a lot of villains prior to him that were much more psychologically complex and actually sympathetic to boot (which… he wasn’t).

7.) Thanos’s plan also made no sense at all, considering he claimed to seek balance in a twisted sense of duty- but said plan actually screwed everyone over worse and made resources issues even more detrimental. They should’ve just made him a full on genocidal psychopath or had him trying to court Hela. One of the two. I honestly think this was just the writers being short-sighted and lazy.

8.) Every version of Thor (and all his supporting characters as well) post-Age of Ultron is absolute trash. He’s a joke, he has zero emotional depth, he’s thematically shallow, he’s boring, he’s embarrassingly out of character…. Just, ugh.

9.) I hate Sylvie. Not just her relationship with Loki, I literally hate that her character even exists.

10.) Natasha deserved so much better than being reduced to a love interest in AoU. It wasn’t cute, it didn’t make sense at all, it wasn’t good for the story. She shouldn’t have had a romance subplot at all.

11.) I actually really liked Clint having a family and a farm. I think it really suited his character and added a little bit more depth to him.

12.) Team Tony made a couple mistakes in Civil War, but they were more or less in the right. And Team Cap was almost all the way in the wrong.

13.) Iron Man 2 wasn’t even that bad.

14.) Iron Man 3 is one of my favourite mcu films, everybody else simply lacks Taste.

15.) Sam deserves the shield way more than Steve, but I’m conflicted cause I don’t want him to be the symbol of pro-American propaganda :/.

16.) Bucky and Sarah are cute as hell together.

17.) Doctor Strange deserves way more credit and adoration, I mean mans puts up with some SHIT I tell you.

18.) Either Wanda is the most powerful sorcerer in the mcu and a total heartless piece of shit OR she’s a sympathetic victim possessed by the Darkhold to do awful things and isn’t really that powerful at all. You can’t have it both ways.

19.) Loki is ridiculously sympathetic and gets the shit end of the stick almost 100% of the time, but I’m pretty sure he agreed to work with Thanos of his own free will, before the sceptre had any influence on him. (Make no mistake, he was definitely mind controlled and tortured at some point afterwards, and that should be acknowledged, but like….. he’s not ENTIRELY without blame here, let’s be real. I think he got himself into a mess and then just couldn’t get out).

20.) Frigga is just as bad as Odin, let’s not kid ourselves. I actually can’t stand her.

21.) Thor never actually changed his bigoted war-mongering superiority-based mindset. He just decided that he likes humans, so they’re exempt from it.

22..) Harley Keener deserved to have just as big a role as Peter in Tony’s life.

23.) I don’t mind Vision, I think he’s a pleasant character. But his relationship with Wanda is the most mind-numbingly boring shit I’ve ever seen my GOD.

24.) Bruce was one of my favourite characters, specifically for his calm confidence. That all went out the window in Ragnarok. Ruined his character too.

25.) Taneleer Ativan, En Dwi Gast, etc (Celestials) should’ve been way more powerful than they were.

26.) Rocket is my favourite member of the Guardians. Peter Quill is boring and annoying and Gamora is more sympathetic but still not very interesting.

27.) There should’ve been less action and more time for them to all live in the avengers compound together like 2012 fanfic 2.0. I like the scenes that are fairly calm where they’re all interacting with each other as a group more than the fight scenes.

28.) LGBT representation in the mcu has been pathetic thus far, but I guess it’s like that in everything so..

29.) Ultron was a superb villain but everyone seems to think he’s mediocre. (Top 3 best mcu villains: 3-Ultron 2-Killmonger 1-Loki. Yes, Loki was a legit villain at one point, don’t @ me.)

30.) It’s the biggest crime in cinematic history that Loki never got to come full circle and fight side by side with the avengers. He literally didn’t even interact with them ever again after the invasion (except Bruce) and that’s just tragic. They were setting his storyline up for that! It was the perfect progression. But noooo.

#this is part 1 cause I actually haven’t watched any of these movies in years lmao #I’ll probably think of a lot more later #Loki #avengers #marvel #mcu #mcu wank #marvel criticism #unpopular opinion #hot take #anti stuff

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dearweirdme · 11 months

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1) https://twitter.com/pink_romantics/status/1347352155099955201?t=y_w_Lr9lIxIwjKlLZ6tvfQ&s=19

those are screenshots of what park seojoon said about women

2) https://twitter.com/hopeworldien/status/1398461588030607366?t=neiYnXnYt3WABBzok3lEwA&s=19

that's park bogum defending his conservative homophobic church. and below is another screenshot of details about that church and his history with it.

https://twitter.com/vvjktae/status/1398624340644700164?t=QpypRiJYmJaYvrqdBzDZzg&s=19

i can't find screenshots of wooshik's case but he liked an Instagram reel mocking Amber Heard's rape testimony against Johnny Depp then unliked it after getting called out. but here's a tweet talking about it

https://twitter.com/dramatikturtle/status/1623460032116322307?t=BiOwgqm5YMUY-DniIlS5NQ&s=19

i know nothing about peakboy or park hyunsik but yeah. i won't be surprised if they turn out to be problematic too.

i don't hold tae accountable for the shit his bigoted friends say or support, but him being friends with them is still enough for me to be sure that their twisted views & opinions don't affect him directly or personally and thus he can live with it. almost everyone of us has horrible friends that we don't always agree with, but it's impossible staying friends with people who hate what you are. a poc won't befriend a racist, a woman won't befriend a sexist/misogynist, a queer person won't befriend a homophobe, etc.

Hi anon!

Thank you for your input. I’m not quite going to agree with you on this, and I kinda hate it because I’m by no means a supporter of misogynistic men and their behavior. But, I feel these things should be looked at in context.

Park Seo-Joon said those things in an interview from 2014. That’s a long way back and hopefully he has learned from the controversy it caused. But also, he was talking about himself, what he wants in a relationship. To me this is by no means an indication of him not accepting a friend’s relationship with a man. He doesn’t want it for himself, and he has real conservative ideas about what he wants in a woman, but it doesn’t say anything about his believes on queer people.

Yeah, churches are tough. I’m gonna be honest, I don’t know what to completely make of this.. because it’s still vague. If indeed the church is homophobic than he is very wrong for standing by their teachings. His words though communicate that it is a normal church, we don’t know what normal is to him but from all the criticism he got it’s clear that what he wants to communicate is that his church is not what people say it is. I cannot deduce from this if the church is actually homophobic and I can also not deduce from this that Park Bogum is homophobic. I don’t tend to automatically believe screenshots from random Twitter accounts because twitter usually sensationalizes stuff like this.

Very insensitive, very stupid even, but it’s not an indication of him being homophobic (and that’s of relevance here, not misogyny).

While you point out misogyny, that doesn’t directly point to Tae’s friends not accepting him as a queer person. I honestly see this so many times in my surroundings (and I live in a progressive country) where men will expect their women to take on a traditional role, yet they’d be fine having one of their friends having a same sexe relationship. People have different standards when it comes to their own lives.

So are Tae’s friends stupid and ignorant maybe? sure could be… but these things to me aren’t proof of them being unable to accept one of their best friends being in a queer relationship. It’s also so little evidence. Did they have to get used to it? Probably. Do they love Tae? Most likely. Will they accept him for who he is even though they wouldn’t choose that live for themselves, I think they would.

#anon #taekook

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creolesasuke · 2 years

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AUTHORS, fuck not books maybe i can't even read

Since I also got your last message (I'm assuming that's you anyways) that asked for book recs I'll give both authors and books that I think you should read from them. Note that I will be including some...umm....Questionable writers here since there are some whose work I still feel can be incredibly relevant and powerful, but I'll nevertheless still add disclaimers so that you can avoid them if you'd prefer. I hope I don't have to say that reading and engaging with an author's work critically is not an endorsement of their politics. But ANYWAYS:

Toni Morrison: Toni Morrison writes with such power, grace, and wisdom that it's hard to imagine anyone disliking her work. What's interesting to me about her is that even though she's from Ohio, her novels have such southern gothic sensibilities that I sometime consider her a southern writer. But I think was makes her distinct from say Faulkner, O'Connor, and other southern writers is her optimism, very different from the southern modernist's tendency towards cynicism. Sula, Song of Solomon, The Bluest Eyes (huge cw for csa and abuse), and Beloved (a book about the generational trauma of U.S. slavery so once again read with caution) are my personal favorites.

Virginia Woolf: Reading To the Lighthouse was a transformative experience for 17 y/o me. I had never read a novel that so perfectly captured existential longing and ennui. And after reading Mrs. Dalloway, I soon regarded Woolf as my favorite writer. Until I learned she was a huge anti-semite and racist. Yet I unfortunately can't discount the massive impact she had on me as a writer, and for that reason I have to mention her.

James Baldwin: I love James Baldwin even though I can only read his novels only once and never again bc they make me want to die. Giovanni's Room is literally the saddest novel I've ever read. James Baldwin was famously a bit MESSY she was a MESSY GIRL, but I still love this man so much honestly. Even though thinking about Giovanni's Room makes me pass out

Alice Walker: I've only read The Color Purple, and I probably will not read more of her since she's a raging anti-semite, but even so I can't deny how much this book affected me the first time I read it. It's funny bc The Color Purple film is such a staple of Black American culture and yet so few people know that in the book the main character is explicitly a lesbian. The novel is epistolary, being entirely composed of letter between Celie and her sister Nettie, and this depiction of black sisterhood is one of most authentic and endearing in literature. Cw for csa, racism, misogyny, lesbophobia, abuse.

Zora Neale Hurston: the mother of African American literature. Curiously enough, she was relatively unknown until 1975 when Alice Walker published an essay on her in Ms. magazine. Their Eyes Were Watching God is a landmark work of black southern fiction.

Suzan-Lori Parks: Postmodernism has become less and less appealing to me as I grow older, but something about how Parks deconstructs the black experience (boy do I hate that term) and presents history as like a collage of fragmentary signs and symbols keeps drawing me back. She can be so opaque and cryptic and yet it never comes across as pretentious or contrived. The America Play and Topdop/Underdog are my favorites. A lot of her plays depict racism but almost in a comedic way. If you aren't a fan of dark humor/shock humor then steer clear.

Derek Walcott: Omeros is the only thing I've read but it's still one of my favorite long poems of all time. I don't know much about him as a person but I love love love his use of language. One of the most inventive writers on this list.

William Faulkner: William Faulkner was just about every genre of bigot you could imagine but because of that he presents one of the most authentic depictions of the southern experience you'll ever read. As I Lay Dying and The Sound and the Fury are my favorites, but I'm planning on reading Absalom, Absalom next so who knows. His short story A Rose for Emily changed my life. Cw for just about every act of violence imaginable, especially antiblack racism.

Tennessee Williams: A gay neurotic mess of a man whose plays essentially introduced the southern gothic style to American theater. Also a huge racist. The Glass Menagerie perfectly encapsulates the feeling of being gay and misunderstood understood in the south, even if the main character isn't explicitly gay. A Streetcar Named Desire probably needs no introduction, though I once again must warn you that there is an (infamous) rape scene (it's not explicitly shown but heavily implied). An extremely disturbing, almost expressionist depiction of masculinity vs. femininity

James Joyce: My favorite writer (unfortunately). I really cannot explain to you why I love this man so other than him being Irish and Make Pretty Word. Read A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and Dubliners before Ulysses. In A Portrait of the Artist there's technically a brief mention of statutory rape between the narrator and a sex worker but it's very brief and written in a highly metaphoric manner. I don't know much about him as a person other than him being a drunk and chronically ill. Perpetual virgin also. So catholic it'll make your bones ache.

Gabriel García Márquez: One Hundred Years of Solitude sophomore year of high school was another formative literary experience, and was actually the first Latin American work of literature I'd ever read. To this day whenever I try my hand at writer I always veer towards magical realism, so influential this book was. A Very Old Man with Enormous Wings is my favorite short story. I'm currently trying to read El Amor en los tiempos del cólera and El Colonel no tiene quien le escriba in the original Spanish. Failing spectacularly ❤️

Clarice Lispector: BASED. BASED. Lispector was a Ukrainian Jewish woman whose family fled to Brazil during WWI, and thus a lot of her novels relate to her experiences as a Jewish woman. The Passion According to G.H. is almost a feminist reimagining of The Metamorphosis by Kafka and it absolutely will haunt you for the rest of your life. Extremely high on my list of favorite writers, alongside Joyce, Woolf, Morrison, and Shakespeare, and that's only after having read one of her books. Incredible woman.

Jean Genet: I'm still reading Notre-Dame-Des-Fleurs but, and I normally don't do this, learning about Jean Genet personal history has intrigued me almost more than the novel itself. He was just such a fascinating man and from what I can tell was a massive ally to black people. I haven't finished the novel yet but from what I've read he has a very interesting conception of gender and sexuality, although I'm literally only like 10 pages in. He almost reminds me a bit of John Waters in that his writing explores transgressive sexual and gender, but different from Waters is Genet's aestheticism. He's a very lyrical writer. I don't know if I recommend him so much as I'm interested in seeing that y'all think about him.

#long post #anonyme #i purposefully didn't include earlier writers since that would make this post even longer #BUT if for whatever reason y'all want to know my opinions on pre-modern lit lemme know

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jeremy-ken-anderson · 1 year

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Ism Traps

Bro. Broseph. Brosephalus. Brocephalopod.

Hear Me.

There’s this whole cottage industry of Woke Brands that are lazily writing altered editions of pretty-okay but sometimes problematic older media. Disney’s been trying and failing to make good live-action copies of its golden age for almost twenty years now. There’s also a whole cottage industry of Anti-Woke Critique Channels, and...

I’ve seen the figures. I know how ridiculously much content someone has to produce in a too-short timeframe in order to have even a shot at making it financially on YouTube.

...but it’s still hypocrisy when they talk about the laziness of the Woke Brands Show writing and then the writing of their own show is lazy. It doesn’t mean they’re wrong about the laziness they’re calling out, mind. Just that they’re hypocrites.

Oh, and bigots.

What I’ve found, watching these critiques, is that woke brands are Bigotry Enticement Snares. Someone with a bit of privilege and a Lotta opinions will come barging in and they’ll have legit things to say about poor writing

- the Little Mermaid remake only mentions a single mother and a single father for Ariel and her siblings, but every sister is a different ethnicity. This is weird enough that it at least could have used a lampshade. - taking the role of ramming a ship into Ursula from Eric and giving it to Ariel makes it harder to believe that Triton would reverse his long-standing view on humans. If nothing else is added to help sell that idea the ending may come off hollow or even unbelievable

but then they’re enjoying the sound of their own voice and get going on

- maybe this is a psyop to make more women in black neighborhoods hate men. Did you know black people have the most single-parent households of any race? (No mention of mass incarceration here. Also totally ignores how Strong Independent Woman Don’t Need No Man is very much not exclusively an idea presented to black people)

Listen.

I get the urge to correct people who are arguing badly.

But when you’re a critic and correcting people who are arguing badly for equality and freedom you have really got to stick to focusing on just the bad argument. You go anywhere else when you’re talking about it and whoopsie-daisy you’re outing yourself.

You can also call out a brand if you think they’re trying to cynically sell a pale copy of the feeling of being a good person to you. HBomberguy’s Woke Brands video does so for like half an hour straight. It’s beautiful. But a bunch of people in the conversation are literal fascists and they’ve worked in this idea that the seeking of equality or freedom or security for marginalized people is the problem, not the cynical point of sale by the massive corporation. And if you’re lazy, or perhaps just foolish or even merely a little too tired when writing, you might regurgitate one of these ideas you heard and absorbed without examination because it had snappy wordplay. Maybe it even rhymed!

My first piece of advice is to take extra care if you’re critiquing a woke brand. If you’re making fun of Hitler you don’t need to think very hard about your insults to avoid expressing bigotry. If you’re making fun of Miss Marvel you do. Of all the penalties for white men to experience, “it’s a little less work to make fun of us without coming off as a bigot” seems pretty tame and totally fair.

My second piece of advice is that if you do overstep on one of these things, yield the fucking point. You double down on one of these conversations and you’ll find yourself swiftly surrounded by allies with tiki torches or white sheets or swastikas in a real hurry and they’ll all have Nifty Ideas to sell you once they’ve chased off “your attacker.” That Way Lies Madness.

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I have some pretty horrible things to say, most of the time, about most things. I might be judgmental, I know I am a tough critic. I can see how people can think I’m a racist. I could see how people could think I’m homophobic, funny story, well I had a primary care Dr. once, He was gay. When I started at the practice, I asked them if I could have a female Dr. he was the only one available at the time, and in a couple months, they may have some openings, and I’m like ok, I will try and wait. So I keep seeing him, until it was time to have my ladies appointment, and I have that appointment with him, that was the last time I saw him, until my significant other and I were at a function, and looking for food and stumbled upon him, at one of the local gay bars, wearing only beach shorts, one of those I don’t know sea shells necklaces that surfer boys wear, and some of the same type of shoes. From then on he became Dr. Twink. Lol, I had stopped seeing him way before that, and for 2 reasons. One before my ladies appointment, I had heard him talking about my case, in the hallway, loud enough for me to hear, through the door. I know that if I heard him, everyone else did too, and I didn’t like that. The next reason was after my lady parts appointment, I had definitely decided that having a male Dr. for this was a boundary I was not going to be able to fold on. It had nothing to do with him being gay, but everything to do, with him being a man. Also at my first appointment with him, he asked if I was a CIS gendered female, I was like “I don’t know what that means” he told me it meant that “I was born a female, and Identify as female”and I said “do you mean I’m a woman” and he answered yes. It wasn’t until a couple days ago, I understood why that would become a focal point in my life. As far as being a racist, I don’t think so, probably more of a bigot. I hate everyone equally to be honest, I am only maybe 30% pro black, I do not have a black card, and I have some extreme prejudices against other races, but they are based 100% on experience with them, not stereo types.

I am not a negative person at all, I am just hyper sensitive, to vibration. I am clairvoyant, and that is off putting to most people, which I can understand, I’m not easy to manipulate, b’tch is a defense mechanism. I don’t even try and be nice anymore. As a southerner, I have a charm, and awe about me that is mysterious, and makes people curious. Persons not bred in the south, see this as manipulation, or somehow phony, and I had to learn to turn it off. It can come off as flirtatious, and I do not want you lol. I am just very sweet. Until you f’ck with me, then I’m sour. Like a power puff girl. I didn’t become aware that I was considered, homophobic, until I said during pride month one year, I “wasn’t proud of being a bisexual, or homosexual person, because, it is mental illness, and that isn’t something I’m proud of” It was a statement I still stand on that hill, and I am entitled to my opinion, it’s not law but, that community, is very sensitive, you know how that goes. I am currently married to a transgender person my spouse is female to male transgender. I am supportive of him, where as, I use his proper pronouns, and I call him my husband, because I respect him as a person, and I don’t attack his identity, unless, he starts f’cking with me, and then I make sure that it is understood that, I have been respectful all the time, but only for your benefit. You being a man is your reality, not mine.

As a disclaimer, I make it known that things I say here are thoughts and feelings, I have already discussed with my partner. So if he reads this and acts all hurt and distraught with someone else, I don’t know what to say, because we’ve had these conversations. I support my partner in every way, I guess really except that. I can hardly take transgender people seriously because this is a choice that you made. You can’t turn 30 and decide that you “are a man” From the time a baby boy is born, he begins conditioning as a male. Until about 5, he doesn’t even really know or understand sex. He probably doesn’t learn this until he is school aged, and then he begins understanding, the difference. After puberty sets in though, he begins if he has the right kinds of parents, learning his place in his home, and the world. This developmental stage is generally when gender roles are beginning to transpire. You take out the garbage because you are a man. You learn to mow lawns or shovel driveways because you need to learn to earn money, because you are a man. If your dad is in your life, he begins to teach you about proper interactions with your female relatives, like first your grandmothers, mom, and sister type relationships, and then your aunts and cousins, like those types of things. You learn how to be friends with girls, and at some point, someone teaches you about how to interact with women in relationships, and the role you play in them. The same goes for girls. I think that this development is delayed though, and somewhat off when you are a male who is raised primarily by your mom, and the type of father you have if you’re raised primarily by your dad if female, works the same way, and even in those types of situations, there is someone for everyone. I’m not saying that if your trans there isn’t, but there is a certain amount of extra shadow work you need to do if this is your situation.

I spoke in earlier posts about how my partner expects me to go half with him on everything, and be 100% financially responsible for myself. I am definitely capable. I have always had a job, or some type of legal hustle if I didn’t, to provide for myself financially. But being raised as women by the type of mothers we have, we weren’t taught to seek husbands who would provide for us, the way they are supposed too, because of the hurt they never healed for, from men who’d hurt them in those areas. We were essentially taught that we needed to be independent, and care for ourselves, and if we did have husbands, we were taught to make sure to “have a plan” in case things don’t work out. I was fortunate enough to have my father present through my entire life, and he taught me that this was an injustice to me. How can you openly love your husband, if you must always in the back of your mind, be thinking, this sh’t may not work out. I need to make sure I have a plan in case it doesn’t. With that type of thought process, my mother taught me to mistrust in relationships, before I even had a reason. I faced most relationships with that thought process, and they failed. I was partially at fault for their failure, because I had the attitude that I am able to do this with or without you. That is a gift and a curse really. A gift because yea, I definitely can, and will. A curse because I didn’t have much experience choosing partners, chose the wrong ones, and I always stayed in long term relationships, way to long because I can do it without you, but I don’t want to, I prefer to do it with you, so I stay until I just can’t take it anymore. I digress, when you don’t have positive males in your life, teaching you the roles you play, even if you grow up to be a trans man, with those positive male role models in your life you know your place and role in the life of the woman you choose. Regardless if she is a career woman, or stay at home wife, you know your place, you know your role, they will align effortlessly. The same can’t be said of trans men without those role models. You essentially become the men you were most exposed to, or lack there of. That is enough said.

In the order of male to female or “trans women” I think that it works the exact same way. Unfortunately we don’t see how well rounded trans women interact with society, we only ever see the negative, I’m assuming because well rounded trans women, are somewhere, being happy minding their own business. It is the quintessential “Karens” of trans women we get the pleasure of coming in contact with. They simply will not do. In the first place, If you are a trans woman I question your motive. Probably because when dabbling in any female territory, men are sketchy and untrustworthy. I learned that, because of my own experience with sex abuse and assault. It was driven home when I worked for several agencies, that catered to persons with developmental disabilities. On one hand, you had an agency who forbade male presence in all female group homes, you can not work in them if you are a man. Discriminatory or not, we are just going to avoid all together taking the risk. On the other, I have had the pleasure of working with ladies who were of the most severe disability, who had been violated. One of which has a grown son. He knows her, and knows what happened to her, understands how he was brought into this world. It breaks my heart to think about someone sexually assaulting this women, who has a baby like mind. Her carrying a child to term, and not understanding what is going on. But it is the nature of the beast. I had a conversation with my spouse, and voiced concern. If a transgender woman came into the woman’s bathroom while I was in there, I probably wouldn’t even want to go anymore. How do I know that you are in fact a trans woman, and not some perv, dressed like a woman, who gets off on watching, or listening to women go to the bathroom? I would never trust your motives.

Like any “Karen” trans women seem to be the most narcissistic. I have read stories about how they are demanding to be transferred from male to female prisons, arguing discrimination because they are not allowed to work out in all female gyms. There is a story about a trans woman cheer leader, who murdered another female student because she stood her ground, citing that it made her uncomfortable to have this person, changing and showering in the locker rooms with her and the other girls, because clearly this individual is a man. Might I add most of these women, still have attached penises. “She” choked that girl to death, for expressing concern for what her reality of the situation was. A trans woman competed in a woman’s swim meet last year, won, and was given a medal, that in my opinion “she” had no right too. As a woman, biologically born a woman, I really resent being called a “cis” gendered female. I was pregnant for 9 months with each of my children I was not a “birthing” person. I came into my moon cycle when I was 13, I am a woman who has a period not a “menstruating” person. I breast fed all of my children, I did not “chest feed” them. All of these innuendos, to make trans women, “Feel” more like women, when you would “feel” like a woman, if you were in fact a woman. Why do I have to have a label because you need one?

The need for attention, repressed insecurity, lack of boundaries and inflated ego, is enough for me to call narcissist. Not to mention the distorted realities, unrealistic expectations, and disregard for other people. Allowing people to “be who they want to be” has simply gotten out of hand. Who is more vulnerable than biological women? We can be offended by nothing, they are allowed to be offended by everything. A new generation of oppressors of our rights, to our own bodies or even to exist. I don’t care how “phobic” you think I am, I would prefer to have medical doctors, OBGYN’S, and dentists who discriminate. I believe that inclusion should be a choice, not something that is forced on you by the government. I read a quote where a biological man, was adamant about choking a trans woman, if it were revealed after they were intimate…. I could only think well, that’s fair cause she would definitely choke you if you called her a man so…..

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kill-your-authors · 4 years

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Another Van Scene Take

The thing about the van scene that gets me is...I really don’t think Joe goes off like that on a regular basis. Like, I’ve seen so many posts about how Joe gives that speech every time someone says something homophobic, or I’ve seen posts about how Joe just waxes poetic all day long to Nicky about his love for him and like...believe me I Dig That Too. It’s both funny and very sweet to think about.

But my personal impression was that the van scene was actually a special occasion. For starters, because of the most obvious: They’ve been captured. Regardless of how dangerous their job is on a regular basis, regardless of how often they’re injured or killed, I don’t think it’s every day or even every once in a while that members of the Guard get captured. It’s my guess that this is the first time anyone’s captured them, only hours after Nicky explained to Nile that being captured is pretty much their worst fear because it could potentially mean centuries of imprisonment or torture.

One theory someone else had on this site (unfortunately I can’t find the post just now) was that Joe allowed himself to be captured because Nicky had already been killed and captured, so even though Joe had the opportunity to kill a few of the guards or try to escape, he didn’t because he wouldn’t permit himself to be separated from Nicky, nor permit himself to die, therefore leaving Nicky to wake up alone in the van or next to Joe’s captured dead body. It would be horrifying. Traumatic. The scariest moment of Nicky’s life undoubtedly.

And so, they’re in the van, Joe is alive and trying to make sure Nicky comes back to life. Nicky comes to, realizing they’re captured and surrounded by armed guards. They’re speaking Italian so as to not be understood by the guards. It’s apparent, that in this moment, regardless of how scared they are, they’ve got it under control. They’re pros, after all. But nonetheless, this had to be the scariest God damn moment of both of their lives.

And then, the guard makes that fucking comment. “What is he, your boyfriend?”

And Nicky makes that exasperated face.

I see a lot of people theorizing that that face is Nicky’s “Oh here we go again” face, the face he wears the moment he realizes Joe is about to go off, reciting poetry in the name of his love for Nicky on the spot. I like that theory. It’s funny. But I really don’t think that’s what’s happening.

I think that’s the exasperated face of someone who has been the victim of others’ ignorance for centuries now, taking different forms based on time and place, but nonetheless, the discrimination these two must have witnessed over the years...All after Nicky himself, personally overcame his own bigotry to be with Joe. Nicky was literally ONE of these men back in the crusades. Sure, it wasn’t over sexuality but it was nonetheless rooted in ignorance as he himself describes Joe as one of the people he’d been taught to hate. And imagine how fucking infuriating it would be, to witness people mindlessly HATE just because they’d been taught to, for centuries. It would be fucking soul-crushing. It would be the kind of thing that makes you lose faith in humanity. For fuck’s sake, sometimes I lose faith in humanity because of this and I’m 26! Let alone 900 some years old. Plus we all know from watching Andy how critical it is to what they do and to enduring being immortal (and especially to Nicky who states more than once that he does what he does because it is the right thing to do), to believe in humanity.

And I think in that moment Joe saw Nicky’s face, and he saw how hopeless Nicky felt, and knew how scared he was, and realized that Nicky, who is the type of man to look Merrick in the eyes and tell him his time is coming and look the doctor in the eyes and tell her she’s immoral, essentially, Nicky, who is the type to tell someone exactly what he thinks of them, Nicky, who is usually the one to give the speeches to the latest homophobe or bigot or just fucking asshole in their presence - not even have the energy or motivation to acknowledge this guard let alone look into his soul and say something that will echo in his ears until he dies. That look on Nicky’s face breaks Joe’s heart.

So what does Joe do? He does it for Nicky because Nicky can’t. He goes off tenfold. He tells them not only that they’re ignorant but goes way above and beyond to show those men how little the implication that A) they’re dating and B) that that is worth mocking in their opinion, matters to him. He makes it a point that he’s only offended by the guard, not because he implied that Joe is gay, but that he would reduce their love to something as inadequate as boyfriend.

And you can see how this effects Nicky right on his face. How touched he is. How inspired he is. He’s reminded of all that really matters - Joe.

Not only that, but following this Nicky’s attitude pretty much does a 180. They kill the guards (I imagine they would have anyway. I really don’t think they killed the guards FOR being homophobic, even if that was the icing on top. I think they’d have killed any men who are in the business of kidnapping people for the profit of a corrupt CEO, particularly ones putting their own safety in immediate harm’s way) and as soon as the armored van doors are open Joe and Nicky are both, as a team, mocking Copley and the rest of his team of guards. Nicky nonchalantly asks about removing their restraints - as if he doesn’t know that isn’t going to happen. Nicky’s once again able to look someone in the face and tell them exactly what he thinks of them - this time it’s Copley he tells that they’re usually a better judge of character.

Joe joins in, complimenting the plane, and the two trade back and forth. Nicky mentioning the TV and Joe asking about Champagne.

This behavior, while first and foremost is just fucking hilarious, I think serves a greater purpose in the characterization of Joe and Nicky and their relationship. By the time they’re on the plane they’re back to their old selves. They’ve gotten their bearings enough to externally appear calm and unworried in the faces of their capturers, for one. But also, I think just about everything they say to each other, almost everything they do throughout the movie, but especially from the van scene on, is a purposeful attempt to always be comforting each other. To always be strong for the other. Mocking their capturers on the plane. Bumping heads after Joe has been stabbed. Talking about Joe’s bedhead. Bringing up Malta. Everything they do until they’re free, is a purposeful attempt to be strong for the other.

It’s really...so fucking well written, you guys. The portrayal of Nicky and Joe in this movie, and especially the van scene, is one of the most realized fictional relationships I’ve ever seen.

#the old guard #joe x nicky #immortal husbands #yusuf x nicolo #meta #long post

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avillainousmagician · 2 years

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Something I like about coming here after spending a lot of time on reddit is that here I'm not constantly seeing people compare my sexual preferences to that of paedos or rape fetishes or whatever other Worst of the Worst ones there are. The FA community over there is tiny compared to here. Here I see a lot of positive and nice posts about it.

On reddit people act like if you find fat people attractive that means you are, I dunno...holding them captive and force feeding them against their will? Which I am very, very, very not into. Not even in a fantasy type way. I'm okay for people to write that kind of smut but it isn't for me. And I have a big problem with people doing non-consensual stuff irl with it, like using it as a control thing. I'm very Soft Feedism™ with Much Consent. And most of what I see isn't remotely like whatever these people who compare it to the worst fetishes seem to be imagining.

These people seem to think that the fat person in the relationship doesn't want to be fat and doesn't find it sexy. As if only the 'feeder' is the one getting any enjoyment out of it. Which is just not the case. What about gainers? Single gainers? Couples where it's a mutual thing? And the various other nuances in the community? Nope! Apparently none of that exists and it's just Evil Feeders. People get really nasty about it. Also just about fat in general, outwith their criticism of the fetish scene. People are really overt with their fatphobia. I hate it. I know I'm small and slim, but I can still have it upset me as someone with a fat partner.

I'm just sick to death of people talking like I, and people like me, are evil. Sometimes they even start trotting out some kind of... late stage eugenics bollocks? Not quite eugenics but similar. I've seen people argue that, basically, it should be illegal to be fat. What the fuck? I hate people saying shit like that. It's weird and nasty. Fat always seems like The Last Taboo. People can't be nasty about other things because that makes them a bigot (rightly so) but then they can be as awful as they please about fat people and nobody bats an eye. I hate it.

My man and I have fun. A good deal of it is fantasy for monetary/practicality reasons. Everything is nice and consensual and we both enjoy it very much. It's not me doing anything against his will.

#personal #ffa stuff #ffa shit #female fat admirer #ffa bhm

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kitkatopinions · 3 years

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I just watched the video from twiins iink and other youtubers about toxicity in the fandom and its super cool and better late then never but its a bit late? To confront the fandom i mean. Like i remember when v5 was airing that people where actually pissed that Jaune was touching Weiss... in the healing scene and that Ruby took his hands away so he wouldnt non con touch Weiss, not to you know see what is happening to the wound. Like it was a whole thing, it wasnt one person? And now we are at v9 so i just wanted to ask your opinion if there is some hope for this fandom i guess ✌

Short answer... No, I don't really think there's hope to fix this fandom. It's gotten to the point where the fans aren't even listening to writers like Eddy Rivas and pro-RWBY youtube streamers like Murder of Birds about maybe not wanting the r/rwby subreddit mods to ban all rwby criticism posts from the subreddit.

Long answer, every fandom is toxic to some extent, but the way the RWBY fandom is, is worse than anywhere else I've seen. Every fandom has ships and characters you're expected to like and get hated on if you don't, every fandom has at least one character that people have decided it's illegal to like, every fandom has at least one character that makes mistakes but is good that gets huge and unjustified hate, every fandom has writer-worshippers who get angry at criticism or dislike or people pointing out author bias, every fandom has characters who got assigned sexualities whether or not it's canon, that results in people getting attacked for 'not adhering to it,' every fandom has an evil/bad character that has fans who will get angry at anyone who doesn't feel sympathy for said evil/bad character, and every fandom has tons of people presenting their headcanons as accepted fact. I can't think of a single one outside of the most niche/tame fandoms I've been in that doesn't have these.

But in the RWDEdom, it's considered a rite of passage to get a hate anon, it's treated as 'making it.' Even after blocking likely over a hundred people, I still see the people posting in the RWDE tag that all RWDE posters are horrible bigots. I recently have gotten several messages from someone calling me - a queer woman - a sexist homophobe for criticizing the sexism and homophobia in a man-written show, and what seems like the same person has sent similar anons to tons of other RWDE blogs.

I've openly admitted that there are bad RWBY critics and I've even gotten in arguments with and wound up blocking fellow RWDE posters. I've also disagreed with several RWDE posters who I don't block, because disagreements are just that, disagreements. I also admit that there are tons of regular RWBY fans and posters who are very nice people, who are just trying to enjoy the show, who just like the show. I don't mind, I don't have any problem with that, we just exist on different sides of this fandom and I think that's good. And you know what? Lots of them have points, because there's lots of good in RWBY. But the toxic RWBY fans will never admit that there are lots of good RWDE posters, or that some RWDE posters have a point because there's lots of bad things in RWBY, and that it's okay to disagree on some things. The toxic RWBY fans have in the past harassed and insulted even the easiest on the show, most generous towards the show RWDE blog I've ever seen. And no matter how much RWDE posters try to avoid interacting with the general RWBY fandom and especially the toxic people, people still insist that we're trying to destroy the show and force others to hate RWBY - while they themselves try to bully people into dropping their blogs and demand that they like RWBY.

Honestly, I only have a couple of working theories on why this fandom in particular has gotten so bad. Peer pressure taking over and guiding the generally accepted viewpoints is common in fandom, but I think one reason why RWBY has it worse than usual is because the fandom is smaller than other, bigger works like ATLA or Harry Potter, so while fans are just as devoted, there's less 'subfandoms,' less variety, fan theories get around easier... I don't know, it's just a theory. Another theory is that first off, the starting fandom of RWBY was already loyal to Rooster Teeth and into their content, and the people involved in RWBY have this kind of 'friendly interactive' persona with their fans that make their fans feel a deeper and more personal connection. So they feel personally criticized or feel like a friend is being personally criticized, and get offended. And it doesn't help that people involved in Rooster Teeth and the making of RWBY like writers and voice actors sometimes insult or get angry at critics themselves and make it public that they feel that way, which just encourages the toxic RWBY fans. And sometimes it feels like they put their anger at critics into the show - making Nora (portrayed as in the right) yell at Ren (portrayed as in the wrong) that Yang and Blake definitely make sense as a couple, having Yang and Blake respond to Marrow asking if they ever do missions apart with anger and coldness, having Robyn drag Clover's name through the mud after people were angry at them over queer baiting Fair Game, and turning Ironwood into a comic book level pure evil villain after some people weren't siding with Team RWBY in volume 7 - which again, just fuels the toxic RWBY fans.

Toxic RWBY fans will often say that they're fine with criticism, just not hate and bashing. Ignoring the fact that bashing is also not illegal and is fine so long as proper tags are used, and how they should just block the tags if they don't want to see it since it's their responsibility to cultivate their internet experience... The goalposts for what they consider 'allowed and good' criticism is varied, always moving, and incredibly hard to follow.

1. Criticism is fine, so long as every post with criticism also recognizes the good things about the show. 2. Criticism is fine, so long as it's completely unbiased. 3. Criticism is fine, so long as it includes no insults, no rudeness, no sarcasm, and nothing that's less than the nicest delivery - despite any actual hurt or offense the show might've caused you. 4. Criticism is fine, so long as it only is for small things and not big complaints. 5. Criticism is fine, so long as it only is for big things and doesn't include any nitpicks or personal opinions. 6. Criticism is fine, so long as it doesn't have anything to do with the moments people have generally agreed 'no longer matter.' 7. Criticism is fine, so long as it's not criticism of the main characters or other characters people 'should like' and isn't in favor of characters that we're 'not supposed to root for.' 8. Criticism is fine, so long as you criticize the actions of characters and not the writers, actors, productions, etc. 9. Criticism is fine, so long as you're only criticizing technical things and not bringing up any mistakes the writers might make on things like the portrayal of women, their people of color characters, their handling of real world issues, ableism or toxic masculinity. 10. Criticism is fine, so long as the criticism only fits the exact ideas of every RWBY fan that might get offended, and adheres to every headcanon we should have come up with and immediately accepted.

It's an impossible struggle. And I think that at this point, the toxic RWBY fans have dug in their heels so deeply that even if Miles Luna himself came to them directly and told them 'hey, stop being so irrational and just block the RWDE tag instead of bullying people,' they would say 'Miles, I'm sorry but you don't understand that these people are of the devil.'

#rwde #anti rwby #anti rooster teeth #rwby bashing #rwby hate #rwby criticism #RWDEdom #anti fndm

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tobi-smp · 3 years

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well ! to describe the situation briefly, someone reposted one of my posts talking about the recent harassment campaign for technoblade and were (naturally) harassed into deleting that reupload because twitter is just a knife tornado hungry for their next victim

this is upsetting for a lot of reasons (the perpetuation of this cycle of harassment and abuse even on the small scale being the most important), but what I felt was actually my place to comment on in this particular situation (it’s not my place to speak for the affected person) was to address how the blatant use of bad faith interpretation used to interpret any person or content that the twitter hate mob wants Removed as bigoted or problematic was Blatantly used to force someone to remove my commentary on this Exact phenomenon. and the fact that I both pointed out the ableism in the technoblade situation And faced ableism for pointing it out Sure Says A Lot about the current climate of the situation.

I use twitter pretty rarely and when I do it’s not really dream smp focused, so I’d appreciate it if people who feel safe spreading it around on twitter would do so would do so: (Link) but just passing it around here is totally fine. note: I didn’t use any screenshots or names for anyone or anything except myself because I’m not here to put anyone on blast.

Here’s a comprehensive list of my posts on the techno situation up until now: (Link 1, Link 2, Link 3, Link 4)

and I’ll have a text version of my response/explanation under the cut

The entire point of my post is that people, namely the original creator of the thread but Many Many More, were making smaller but objective allegations (things that are objectively true, like techno making a joke on twitter asking if hitler is a lesbian) and mixing it in with Far Harsher allegations that take reading a situation in blatant bad faith to interpret it the way that they have and treating them Both with the exact same weight.

Doing so both enables people to bolster the smaller allegations (it’s much easier for people to care about the objectively provable things if they can also buy into the idea that he’s either genuinely racist or just out and out cruel) And it uses the smaller allegations to retroactively strengthen the case against technoblade in these stronger allegations (it’s much easier to accept that technoblade had intended for this to be a joke when you list it Alongside a laundry list of edge humor that paints him in a bad light presented with commentary on how he’s an objectively awful person).

One Of the points I made was Not that technoblade has adhd so therefore we can’t criticize him, that is a surface level bad faith reading of what I said and just overall poor comprehension of the post itself, but that the fandom has a history of treating technoblade in ableist ways, particularly when it comes to reading his tone but far and beyond that as well. The cherry picking and blatant misinterpretation of the literal only point in which I mention his neurodivergency to discredit the point I’m making is literally just proving my argument for me. People are willfully using bad faith interpretation to justify stronger allegations that make their criticisms look better so they can strong arm people into acting how they want them to act and doing what they want them to do. People want to force technoblade fans to shun him and force technoblade into a position under them so they take an instance where his tone is blunt while trying to share a petition get justice for george floyd and they overtly and unashamedly interpret it as him mocking the death of a black man so they can shame him and the people who support him with accusations of racism. People see a take they don’t like defending a man they’ve decided is bad so they take the only mention of adhd in the post and twist it into coddling people with adhd to excuse racism to pressure and shame the reuploader into taking it down and apologizing. It’s weaponizing marginalized people to use as blunt objects to hurt someone, which damn well isn’t activism.

When I, as a person with adhd, autism, and anxiety, recognize when largely (not entirely but Largely) neurotypical people are taking advantage of the flexibility in how tone can be read to clearly come to an unfair conclusion intended solely to hurt someone and I recognize that tactics like this leaves neurodivergent people particularly vulnerable it is not your place to tell me that I’m “babying people with adhd.” recognizing bigotry against people like me is not babying and reducing it down to that is ableist, Point Blank.

At any rate, the point I was making with the end of my post was Not that technoblade is excused from having to apologize because he has adhd. It was pointing out the fact that the conflation of provable minor offenses with major offenses that he’d Have to defend himself against Because they’re bad faith readings of what he said creates a situation where he both Can’t address the situation in its entirety without leaving himself vulnerable for more misinterpretation and harassment And can’t take anything that’s been brought up in good faith (meaning that he Very Understandably wouldn’t feel comfortable addressing it when he’s well aware that it exists for the entire purpose of harassing him).

Disagree with that point, agree with it, whatever. Just don’t paint it as something that it’s not just so you can tear it down easier and harass people over it. Genuinely it is disgusting to me that my words were used as a tool to hurt someone else and people should feel ashamed for what they’ve done. They won’t, but they should.

#technoblade #discourse #I can't message the person who reposted it in private and I absolutely don't want to make them respond to me publicly #and risk even More backlash #so I'm just gonna wish them well here and hope that they're taking care of themselves

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femmeharringrove · 3 years

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so niki has two dads. so what?

if you say anything about it, she'll kick you. and if principal kane wants to meet with her fathers, then so be it.

that only happens twice - first with steve, who walks in with sunglasses high on his face, a cup of coffee in hand, and a stance that makes the shorter man in front of him admittedly uncomfortable. niki is almost gleeful as she watches her dad stare blankly at the principal, then tug his glasses down to eye him more critically. not a word is spoken, there isn't a sound outside of the gentle swishing caused by niki's feet kicking back and forth. when the silence is broken, it's by steve, voice bored and uncaring.

"what's the problem, mister kane?" principal kane looks a little intimidated by the man in front of him - as he should be, niki knows.

"uh - well, uh, you see, nikita got in another fight again with a student, and -"

his words come to a halt when steve's hand comes up to stop them, the other hand perched comfortably on his hip. his head turns to face his daughter, and while his face is deadly serious she sees the sparkle in his eye and knows she's in no trouble here.

"nikita," he drawls, "did you get into a fight today?"

"yeah," she replies, without an ounce of remorse.

"do you want to tell me why?" he pushes, and she does, so she tells him.

"joey carter said that nobody wants to be my friend because i have two dads and that's wrong." joey is full of shit, as uncle dustin likes to say. she has plenty of friends, and all her friends love her papa and her dad. because steve always makes them the best snacks and takes them on all sorts of trips and takes the time to get to know the kids. and billy lets them do his makeup and carries them around the house while they squeal in delight. their parents might have been unsure at first, but steve and billy have made friends with most of niki's friends' parents. but the carters are gross people and their son is no exception as far as the eight-year-old is concerned.

"thank you," steve hums, before turning back to principal kane. the hand he'd held up to stop his talking lowers again and he places it on his other hip. "principal kane, where is joey?"

"why, he's in class," the ruddy man replies. steve's eyebrow arches in the way it does when papa says something dumb, or when niki tries hiding something from him.

"and why is that?" he presses. "are we just allowing students to verbally harass other students now?" principal kane gulps.

"well, you know how children are -"

"i do," steve cuts in sharply. "i'm raising one. do you know how long it took me to teach her not to say fuck because it's not a nice word?" nikita stifles a giggle at the offended look that crosses her principal's face. "picked it up from her aunt," steve continues. "kids just soak these things up, you know." steve pauses to sip on his coffee, hand raising to stop the man from speaking, and then he continues. "joey's parents are bigots, i know that very well, and i'm not surprised joey's picked up on it. but if nikita here said fuck in class, you'd reprimand her for foul language, yes?" he peers through his sunglasses while principal kane nods vigorously.

"of course we would." steve nods his approval.

"i take comfort in that." the glasses come off after that, and steve leans forward to meet the shorter man's gaze. "now, if one of your students says hateful comments towards another, would you do the same thing, mister kane?" niki grins at the way her principal shifts uncomfortably.

"I - I suppose, yes," he stammers.

"you suppose," steve repeats, mean and critical. "well, in that case, if you suppose, i suggest you get to calling the carters. nikita and i are going to leave you to it." principal kane tries speaking up, but steve's already got his sunglasses back on and he holds his hand out to the smaller brunette in the room. "let's go, honey. say goodbye to principal kane." nikita hops off the chair and waves a cheery goodbye before happily walking out with her hand in her dad's.

later that night, he's reading her a story and she snuggles against his side, enjoying the gentle brush of his fingers through her curly hair, and she can't help herself.

"hey, dad?" steve stops reading, sets the book down to look down at her.

"yes, baby?" and now nikita huffs, because she doesn't know what she wants to ask. they've talked about this before, both about gender and sex, and sexuality. she knows some people think something's wrong with her dads, but she doesn't hear it often. it shakes her a little when she does.

"why are people so mean?" she settles on. steve's face falters a little.

because there's no easy answer to that, is there? he and billy have been raising her for eight years, they've been together for five of those years and have only been open about it for three. they've been talking about getting married, about having one more kid together, about moving and settling somewhere new, but he knows no matter where they go or what they do there are always going to be instances like this, people like the carters and this kane asshole. and as much as he aches to protect his baby from that, he can't.

so he and billy have taught her the importance of kindness and understanding and respect. and at just eight, she has such an understanding of those concepts. she's absolutely brilliant, and beautiful, and more precious than steve will ever be able to put into words. he studies the face that peers up at him, brushes her bangs from her face, and holds her close so he can rest his chin on her head with a sigh.

"well, kita, sometimes people are scared," he tries. "remember when papa gave you seaweed that one time we went to california?" he doesn't have to be looking to know her entire face scrunches up in disgust.

"yeah, but that was gross," she points out, making the same face steve makes when he eats something he doesn't like, trying to get the taste off her tongue. steve laughs softly.

"to you and me, yeah, but not to papa. he grew up out there so he was already used to it, but for you and me it's scary. green stuff from the sea? icky, right?" nikita nods against his chest. "well, some people haven't seen gay people before, not like papa and i and our kid living like other families. and that's new and scary. and sometimes, when people get scared, they act a certain way." steve tries thinking for another example. "like when papa brought that beetle inside and scared me, remember that?"

nikita will never forget the way her dad scrambled over the couch trying to escape the bug. she'd laughed until the beetle took flight because that really was scary. the pair had screamed around the house and steve had absolutely refused all of billy's apologies the rest of the night, huffing and pouting while nikita giggled at the sight.

"you hit him," she recalls. it hadn't been hard, just a couple of swats on the shoulder while scolding the blonde man. steve nods.

"yeah, which was mean," he agrees. "but sometimes, people get mean when they're scared. obviously, something like having two dads or liking another guy or gal isn't the same as bringing in a beetle, it's much bigger than that. and when people get mean about the bigger things, it's more than just a little hit on the shoulder."

she gets that too, as much as she doesn't like it.

nikita sighs and wraps her little arms tight around steve's waist.

"i don't want people to be mean to you," she decides, and steve knows she loves him, of course he knows, but it warms his heart to hear a reminder of it.

"i know," he sighs. "but we can't make other people be kind. we can only be kind ourselves, yeah?" the girl nods and smiles up at her father.

"you're the most kindest" she announces, and then niki rests her head against his chest again. he doesn't start reading right away, but his voice sounds a little wobbly to her when he does.

the second time principal kane has to meet with one of her dads, it's over a father's day event in class and professor kane specifically requests billy instead of steve. he shows up a little greasy from work, looks from the principal to a mother and her son, to his teary-eyed little girl, and knows there's about to be trouble.

nikita doesn't know if it's hurt tears or angry tears, but misses hartwell's words sting and she can't get them out of her head. her son jeremy's words had hurt even more, and so a now ten-year-old nikita had punched him right in the face.

"something has to be done, mister hargrove," the principal says. amy hartwell scoffs.

"something indeed. we'll be pressing charges, that's what will be done." billy fixes her with a glare.

"you're gonna press charges against a kid?" he questions incredulously. "i know my girl, she doesn't do that unless he messed up big time."

"my son would never do any -" the woman begins, but nikita has no time for this. she doesn't want to sit here and listen to them act like jeremy is innocent.

"he said i can't bring my dad to school because i don't have one!" she snaps, and billy almost snaps too.

"well, it's true!" jeremy shoots back from the safety of his mother's side. "tell her, mom." now amy looks usure, and principal kane shifts uncomfortably as billy's cold glare flashes to the woman.

"yeah, tell her," he repeats, low and threatening. "better yet, tell me." amy shifts her weight and steps back.

"well, everyone in town knows her mother got pregnant in some indianapolis bar," she has the audacity to say. "the girl's never met her real father." nikita opens her mouth ready to protest and hurl insults, but billy speaks first.

"nikita doesn't have a mother," he growls. "her father gave birth to her, and i raised her. we're her dads, and she can have either of us at this little party, got it?"

"it's not healthy to feed her lies like that," amy argues, "you're poisoning her mind, it's dangerous -"

"- no," niki's dad cuts in. "what's dangerous is saying all of that within three feet of me. what's fucking dangerous is teaching your kid how to be as fucking disgusting as you."

"mister hargrove!" principal kane cuts in sharply. "i will not have you threatening misses hartwell like that!" billy turns on the man with an aggression nikita has never seen from her pa, a wild gleam in his glare and his lips set in a snarl. the principal shrinks back.

"what a time to grow a spine," he bites. "you've let her walk all over my boyfriend and i, i'll say whatever the hell i want." principal kane looks a little scared, backs down pretty quickly. but billy is on a roll. "i know how this works. you think steve and i don't know what assholes like you say behind our backs? huh? well, we do. and it's fucking ridiculous. steve has more balls than you-" an accusatory finger gets thrown in principal kane's face - "and more class than anyone in this stupid hick town is capable of. and you know what? i get it, we can't stop you from being ignorant dicks. but what i can do, and what i will do, is step in when someone brings this shit to my little girl. do you get that?" billy's yelling stops and both adults look at him wide-eyed with shock. jeremy looks scared, and niki thinks he should be. with a decisive nod, billy ends the conversation, he scoops niki up after that and she can feel him shaking as she hides in the safety of the crook of his neck. "you wanna sue us? sue us. we'll return the goddamn favor, trust me." and he stomps out to his car and just stands out there for a little while, clinging to nikita until she stops sniffling.

they don't really talk on the way home, and when they both enter the house steve looks a little confused.

"aren't you both supposed to be places?" he asks, but the little tease in his expression fades into worry as he gets a better look at them. billy leans in and kisses niki's forehead chaste and soft.

"go get changed," he mutters, which she knows is actually code for when he doesn't want her listening to their conversation. she obliges and disappears up the stairs she's known her whole life, right up to her room where she gets more comfortable clothes. she hears steve yell, "she what?" at some point, but mostly the pair are quiet. when nikita does tiptoe down the stairs eventually, they're in the kitchen, her papa's face buried against her dad's neck while they whisper to each other. it looks like billy's shaking again, but she can't tell.

steve catches her after a minute and kisses the top of billy's head before calling her over and holding her tight. "i'm sorry you had to deal with that stuff today," he offers, mumbled partially into her her hair. she remembers the things he said about mean people and clutches onto him a little tighter.

that night, aunt max and uncle dustin come by for dinner and take her out for ice cream, and when she comes home steve gives her a bubble bath with extra bubbles. she doesn't love letting him bathe her all the time, but sometimes it's fun, especially when he does extra bubbles. he finishes and dries her off and takes his time with her hair, and before long she's just about ready for bed.

her parents work her through the nightly routine, and they tuck her in to bed together like they do every night one of them isn't working late. but after steve plants his pattern of kisses on her face and leaves, billy stays. he sits on the edge of her bed and looks a little unsure, which is strange because as far as niki knows, he always knows what to do.

"honey," he starts. "you know what they said today isn't true, right?" nikita nods easily.

"yeah. dad's my dad and you're my pops." nikita knows, to some degree, how she came to be. she knows steve didn't have her with billy like that. but never once has she ever had to doubt her family, and no one's dared do it to her face. not before today.

"okay, good." billy nods, reaching a hand out and rubbing her shoulder. "people like misses hartwell and her kid, they don't - they don't get it. and i'm so sorry that you had to hear it, and that you had to hear me yell like that."

"and say all those words dad tells you not to?" she adds quietly. billy breathes out a laugh.

"and hear me say all those words dad tells me not to say," he agrees. it gets a laugh out of nikita, much to billy's relief, and he leans forward to hold her by both her shoulders now. "i'm serious, babycakes. i don't care what people like that say. you're my baby, you hear me? always mine."

"always yours," she echoes, leaning forward and throwing her arms around him in a hug. billy plants as many kisses as he can manage on her head and face, before laying her back down and adjusting her covers.

"i love you, green bean," he tells her, and she murmurs in kind before watching him move to the door. he pauses when he gets there, then turns to her sheepishly.

"hey, about the bad words," he hums. "i won't say anything about it to dad if you won't. deal?" nikita makes a thoughtful face.

"can i have ice cream and a kitten?" he snorts at that.

"you have several kittens, baby. but ice cream is doable."

and when amy hartwell knocks on the door the next afternoon talking about billy's offensive language, he only gets a claim of innocence from his boyfriend and a confused look from his daughter who doesn't recall a single bad word from the meeting. steve looks back at the woman and misses the grin nikita shares with billy as she chomps on a bite of ice cream.

#sad boy hours but niki and bill's shenanigans are very important to me #steebie writes #harringrove #steve harrington #billy hargrove #co parenting au #stranger things fanfiction #stranger things au #tonight is 'be sad but appreciate billy and niki' night

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aropinions · 3 years

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So What Is Exclusionism, Anyway?

As I've looked through inclusionist circles, I've come to a startling realization that most of them have an extremely skewed understanding of what exclusionism is (along with its various offshoots, subtypes, and related beliefs). They equate it to hatred of whatever group is being excluded, and they don't think people part of the excluded group could ever support exclusionism.

So, I've decided to write a long post to clear up some of those misconceptions. This post is mainly targeted to inclusionists and people wondering where they stand on the inclus/exclus sides of various types of discourse, but if you're exclusionist already, please feel free to reblog or boost it. <3 Thanks in advance for reading!

I'll start by introducing myself. Hi, I'm Ivy, or at least that's what I go by on here. I am a heterosexual, aromantic female. I am neurodivergent (ADHD, so forgive me if I ramble or write in a scatterbrained way) and have several other mental illnesses that I don't wish to talk about online. I do not have gender dysphoria, but I do not "feel feminine," and my personality has been described as rather masculine. In fact, many people in the inclusionist trans community have tried to convince me that I'm nonbinary because I don't feel a strong connection to a female gender, and I'll talk about that more later in this post.

I'm going to put all my relevant discourse opinions on the table right now. (In the next paragraph, I'm going to explain what all these labels actually mean and why they don't automatically make someone a horrible person.) Contrary to popular belief, I am not a trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF), an aphobe, a transphobe, or a bigot. I am ace-exclusionist, aro-exclusionist, trans-exclusionist, transmedicalist, pro-LGB, and gender-critical.

Now here's the fun part. Bear with me -- we're about to debunk the myths about these opinions, explain each term's real definition, and talk about some of the reasoning behind the beliefs.

Exclusionism, as a blanket term, is the belief that gatekeeping is necessary to make any group or community meaningful and safe. Various types of exclusionists fight against the lumping together of various marginalized identities or groups, because they believe that letting different types of people into spaces meant for more specific groups will detract from the safety and functionality of those spaces. They do not hate the groups they are excluding, and they typically want to exclude both ways. For example, ace exclusionists don't want allosexual LGBT let into ace spaces any more than they want asexuals let into LGBT spaces. Many exclusionists in LGBT discourse support the exclusion of groups that they themselves are part of, because in addition to the idea that it's harmful to the main LGBT community to lump them into it, they also think their group deserves its own recognition as a separate thing from the LGBT community. Exclusionism is not hatred.

Time to get into more specific terms. Let's start pretty simple, with truscum and transmeds. Someone who is truscum believes that people must have dysphoria to be trans. Someone who is transmedicalist believes that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, and that transness is a medical condition synonymous with gender dysphoria. All transmeds are truscum, but not all truscum are transmeds. Most truscums and transmeds are against MOGAI, neopronouns, gender microlabels (e.g. genderflux or demiboy), and xenogenders. Most truscums believe in nonbinary people. There are some transmeds who don't believe nonbinary dysphoria is real, but they're not the majority.

The direct opposite of truscum and transmed is "tucute," which denotes a belief that dysphoria is not required to be transgender and gender identity is completely unrelated to biological sex or medical disorders/conditions. Tucutes also generally support MOGAI, xenogenders, neurogenders, microlabels, and neopronouns.

Next, we have bio-essentialism. Bio-essentialism is the belief that oppression is based on biological sex, not gender identity, and that identifying as a different gender than your birth sex doesn't automatically mean you are oppressed. This doesn't necessarily mean bio-essentialists believe that gender doesn't exist or that you can't identify as whatever you want, just that your social oppression is based off your biological sex. Not all bio-essentialists are truscum or transmeds, but most are. Bio-essentialists prominently use the terms "male" and "female" to describe biological sex rather than gender identity, and non-radical ones will use "man" and "woman" as blanket terms that include transmen and transwomen while maintaining "male" and "female" as words for biological sex only.

Then, we have the big bad term, TERF. I've seen a lot of people misuse the TERF label, so I'm going to try to clarify its actual meaning. The acronym stands for "trans-exclusionary radical feminist." It's important to break that down into two main parts -- TE and RF -- because trans-exclusionists are often called TERFs when most of them don't fit the "RF" part of the acronym at all.

Trans-exclusionism (TE) means that you believe transgender issues/discourse/activism should be separated from LGB issues/discourse/activism because they are fundamentally different. L, G and B all have one thing in common: being attracted to people of the same sex as you. T is about someone's gender, not their sexual orientation, so trans-exclusionists believe that the LGB and the T should not be lumped into the same community. It doesn't mean they think trans people deserve less respect or are not real. Most trans-exclusionists are also truscum or transmedicalist, but not all are. Many trans-exclusionists who are also feminists are gender-critical, but not all are. Pro-LGB is a synonym of trans-exclusionist, but in my experience, people who describe themselves as "pro-LGB" are more likely to also be gender-critical than those who identify themselves as "trans-exclusionist."

Radical feminism (RF) is a subset of feminism that -- in addition to general feminist beliefs -- is anti-porn, anti-kink, against the makeup industry, and very often openly misandrist. Radical feminists are not always trans-exclusionist, and trans-exclusionists are not always radical feminists (in fact, most aren't). Most radfems are anti-capitalist, and all are against pink capitalism and rainbow capitalism (the commercialization of feminist ideas, gay rights, etc.) Most radfems are truscum or transmedicalist, but not all are.

All TERFs are also gender-critical. "Gender-critical" people are bio-essentialist, but they go a step further to say that gender identity is a meaningless term, and that biological sex is the sole basis of oppression. However, one can be gender-critical and still support trans people if one is a transmedicalist. GC transmeds believe that trans people are still oppressed in society according to their biological sex, not their gender identity, but that social/physical transitioning is acceptable as a treatment for the mental disorder known as gender dysphoria.

Neither trans-exclusionism nor radical feminism is inherently transphobic or hateful toward transgender people. To differentiate a regular trans-exclusionist from a TERF, ask yourself if the person fits the radfem beliefs outlined above. If not, they aren't a TERF.

Now that all of that is covered, we can talk about the last couple types of exclusionism I want to touch on -- asexual exclusionism and aromantic exclusionism. These almost always come together as a package called aro/ace-exclusionism or aspec-exclusionism, but it is technically possible to be ace-exclusionist and not aro-exclusionist (or vice versa), though I've never personally met someone with such beliefs. Aspec-exclusionists believe that aspec people should not be included in the LGBT community because the lack of sexual or romantic attraction is a completely separate struggle and involves separate experiences than having attractions that exist, but are not heterosexual. Some more extreme aro/ace exclusionists strongly gatekeep aromanticism and asexuality. These ones don't believe in microlabels on the "aro spectrum" or "ace spectrum" such as demisexual or grayromantic. They maintain the belief that if someone has sexual attraction (regardless of whether they actually pursue people sexually) then they are not asexual, and if someone feels romantic attraction at all (even if they don't pursue romantic relationships) they are not aromantic.

Aro/ace-exclusionists, regardless of their beliefs on aromantic and asexual spectrums or microlabels, are not inherently aphobic. They only want aromanticism and asexuality to be separated from the rest of the LGB or LGBT community, and treated as their own distinct identities.

I hope this post was informative, and if anyone has feedback on anything I should edit, they should let me know in replies. Regardless of your beliefs, if you actually read this whole post or even just scrolled to the bottom, I'd like to offer a sincere thanks for bearing with me thus far. If you are an inclusionist or otherwise disagree with the things in the post, but you read it anyway, I have a lot of respect for your willingness to hear opinions other than yours rather than blindly blocking out everything you disagree with.

No matter who you are, I hope you have a great day. <3

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