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emmanelson · 2 years
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PACEY WITTER AND ANDIE MCPHEE IN DAWSON’S CREEK SEASON 2 (1998-1999)
you andie mcphee are the girl that i love to hate. i love to hate you too. - dawson’s creek season 2 episode 7 / i'm afraid because you're the single most important being to ever grace my existence. andie, i am falling hopelessly in love with you. - dawson’s creek season 2 episode 11 / it's just that i molded you into this person that i thought you should be. i thought it was what i needed, you know? i place this unfair burden on people just so they can save me from myself but i realize i don't need a knight in shining armor. i need a partner. someone i'm proud to love and who's proud to love me back in spite of all my faults and it's you. you're the one, pacey. - dawson’s creek season 2 episode 15 / my life began when i met you andie, and you never gave up on me so i'm not going to give up on you. so please, andie, for the love of God, come out here and choose me. - dawson’s creek season 2 episode 22
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aroaceleovaldez · 15 days
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in your most recent tyson post, you said something about leo being distinctly autistic-coded and I was wondering if you could elaborate on that? it sounds really interesting (sorry if you've already posted something on this, I couldn't find anything though)
Of course! I do have a specific tag for talking about Leo's autistic-coding/traits - [here], and [one for Nico as well].
The main aspects with Leo being autistic-coded actually have a lot to do with Nico being autistic-coded, because it's the comparisons between the two that most clearly indicate Leo is autistic-coded rather than it just being his ADHD or etc.
So with Nico being autistic-coded, it's very clear in the Titan's Curse that he's intended to be autistic. First, the first series has a repeating pattern of secondary characters being very distinctly neurodivergent-coded in different ways (Annabeth's adhd/dyslexia, Tyson's down syndrome-coding, Nico's autism-coding). With Nico's introduction, he's pretty stereotypically autistic and we're given a lot of descriptors about him that are notably not attributed to him being ADHD, like it would be for other demigod characters. He doesn't register social cues such as people getting annoyed at him, he's asking/making inappropriate or impolite questions/comments, he gets particularly upset about change (such as Bianca joining the Hunt) and generally gets emotional, and one of his most notable traits he's introduced with is the fact that he has a special interest (MythoMagic) - and we're shown that this special interest particularly colors how Nico navigates the world. While ADHD has hyperfixations, we don't really get much acknowledgement of hyperfixations with demigods usually - Annabeth gets a little, but most others don't and it's not nearly as focused-in on as Nico's is.
Then as the series continues we see these traits stick with him and him start to show or voice more traits that similarly indicate he's autistic: He regularly mentions how he doesn't understand living people and prefers the company of the dead (social issues). He has more notable stims than other demigods (twisting his ring, fiddling with bones, etc). He's indicated to have strong sensory preferences (usually wearing mostly black/aversion to bright colors, usually wearing layers/his coat, multiple times he's described as wearing loose/baggy clothing or clothes too big for him). He has specific comfort items (his ring, likely his jacket(s) as well). We later get even more information about his special interests (Mythomagic/mythology/history and an older interest in pirates - the latter he specifically notes likely heavily influenced his feelings towards Percy). He struggles with emotions and facial expressions and tone. He struggles particularly with ostracism and feeling like he doesn't fit in and has something distinctly different about him from the people around him (who notably, all have ADHD, which indicates it isn't the ADHD that's making him feel that way), and other characters regularly describe him as being off-putting because of his strange behaviors - again, different from specific ADHD traits they recognize. And that last point is kind of notable because we have Hazel and Bianca for comparison - we know people are off-put by both Nico and Hazel because of being children of Hades/Pluto and their powers/aura, but other characters get past that general feeling of discomfort way faster with Hazel. And even after characters get past the death stuff with Nico, there's a second thing that they aren't moving past that isn't a factor with Hazel (Nico's autism).
So that brings us to Leo - Leo is paralleled to Nico a lot. And there's some very specific traits about him that we know are autistic-coding because of how they're used with Nico: He similarly struggles with social cues/etc, and in a very similar parallel to Nico describes how he prefers the company of machines to people because machines make more sense to him. He has similar types of clothing/sensory preferences (again some stuff with layers but also - pockets! He likes having pockets and things to put stuff in! He's even introduced as having a jacket with lots of pockets), and he has a distinct special interest (machinery) that we specifically know heavily influences how he views and navigates the world (constantly comparing things to machinery, describing things with machinery metaphors/terminology, etc etc). He even describes his entire general worldview to Hazel and it's a machine metaphor. He also similarly struggles with ostracization like Nico does, the only difference being that Leo specifically puts on a persona to compensate for areas he knows he's lacking in and very explicitly describes it as a means to make people like him, because without it he normally struggles to fit in (He's masking!). We also see notes of characters describing that similar discomfort with Leo's behaviors that they do with Nico, except without the aura of death this time. And when we're in Leo's POVs we see a very stark difference between his masking and his actual personality/behaviors such as his internal dialogues or how he behaves when he's alone. Also, like Nico, he stims more than other demigods, though for Leo it's more attributed to his ADHD. Leo also, more often than most, similarly struggles with tone and reading the room, such as making misplaced jokes/comments or etc.
But yeah! It's really interesting. Also it's just a fun thing that ADHD/dyslexia and autism have comorbidity, so it makes sense that we see demigods who are also autistic. It's also really fun to look at how other characters are coded in the series, what coding looks like in the riordanverse specifically (usually it's tied into the mythological stuff - like Chiron being in a wheelchair but he's actually a centaur, Grover being introduced as having a muscular disease but he's actually a satyr, demigods having adhd/dyslexia, Tyson being coded as having down syndrome but he's a cyclops, etc etc - it's a lot of specific metaphor stuff that I've talked about a bit before), and to look at how characters are compared to one another.
#pjo#riordanverse#leo valdez#nico di angelo#autistic nico#autistic leo#autism#analysis#Anonymous#ask#long post //#woof sorry that got long#im very passionate about this topic#re: characters being paralleled#Ms. ''Constantly Neutral - No Emotions'' Reyna looking at Nico stimming in the exact same way she does (twisting ring)#and internally going ''We have a lot in common. I don't know how I feel about that.'' is one of my favorites.#like. reyna. ma'am. you might be autistic. good luck with that.#with the pattern of coding in the first series i do suspect Rachel has some coding as well but i haven't been able to pinpoint what it is#I think it may be the whole seer thing and the fact that she could see the future#even before becoming the oracle/despite being a mortal rather than a demigod (who just get rare prophetic dreams normally)#and in BoTL her entire thing is that she's able to see things that no one else can and that's how they navigate the maze#particularly also with how the labyrinth is treated/how it affects people within it (see: Chris)#and how the only other seer in the first series - May - is characterized and her coding compared to Rachel's#also something something the seer traits become more prominent once Rachel meets Percy#something something metaphor about only being able to recognize neurodivergency traits once you're familiar with them#so Rachel meets Percy = introduction to the community > Rachel recognizes her own traits/symptoms > gets a support system (oracle)
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thebigqueer · 3 years
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Pjo dilfs/milf time! Paul x Sally x Poseidon headcanons?
oooh!
okay so i honestly don’t think paul even realizes he’s bisexual until a while after he proposes to sally 
anyway, i think poseidon still comes by every now and then, and especially when he finds out that sally’s getting married 
and at first paul is a little iffy when he finds out that poseidon is coming over cuz like “damn im human but my fiancee’s ex who’s a god is coming over can i even compare ://” 
but when he meets him he’s like “???? i don’t??? feel that jealous strangely???” 
that’s cuz he’s actually attracted
he actually doesn’t really understand why he’s feeling this way??? he thinks that maybe it’s just poseidon’s godly power and shit but like after a while he realizes that “oh fuck??? i think im actually attracted to him??? weirdly??” 
so yeah basically what i’m saying is that poseidon is paul’s queer awakening <3
poseidon does end up coming to their wedding! it’s actually by paul’s insistence that he comes
 anyway they all become pretty good friends along the way and kind of ruminate over percy’s absence 
technically poseidon probably wasn’t able to really come down but i think he truly made an effort when he could just to let them know that their son was safe, or at least show them that he was ready to support them
okay that was a pretty bad set of headcanons and im really sorry!! :((( my brain is so fried rn but!!! thanks for the prompt!!!!
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percyjacksonfan3 · 3 years
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The Last Olympian Thoughts
So because I have absolutely 0 self-control or restraint when it comes to this series and its characters, and for The Last Olympian in particular, I could not put TLO down. Because of this I figured I couldn’t do the usual photo reaction posts I have been so far, because the spam would just be ridiculous, so I am stealing the idea from @yourstrulytaaay​ to do a masterpost instead. (Adding a Read More cause this got ridiculously long)
Fun fact, TLO came out right after i finished reading the series for the first time so it's the first PJO book i bought  and my only hard cover one for the og series. I checked the year and turns out it was published 2009, which means i was actually 9 when i read the series for the first time. I realize this is not really a fun fact but i thought i was older when I first read the series so it's blowing my mind a little ‘cause now I’m 21 and everything hits different and i still have so much love for this series and the characters Okay onto book thoughts: - i was right that this book is gonna destroy me, the first line alone made me so excited and nostalgic it's ridiculous - I love Rachel and Percy sm tbh. Her being a bit of peace and normalcy in his life without always reminding Percy of who and what he is is so good for him. Just a little escape
- of course by the end of the book that's not the case any more but by the end he's lived his prophecy so he doesn't need it as badly, plus he and Annabeth are solid again - Percy saying Annabeth has been hard to be around lately... Ouch my heart. Luke really is the last thing that keeps them from being together and Percy is so jealous and Annabeth so torn and in pain, i feel so bad for them both
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- Beckendorf 🥺🥺 - the telkhine with the Lil Demon lunchbox!! I forgot about him. Percy: 'i left him alive, partly because his lunchbox was cool' is one of my absolute favourite lines tbh - Paul taking Percy crabbing and being imperative in helping Percy kill the giant crab 💖 Paul Blofis is important and deserves the world, okay? - aw Percy, you can't save every demigod bb
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- 'i had to fight him eventually. Why not now?... What difference would a week make?' Oh Percy you have no idea - real talk tho, the fact Kronos possessed Luke's body would also mess me tf up. Percy keeps forgetting it's not Luke anymore and yeah, that would be so so hard and confusing af, like what another smart little mind game for Kronos to pull on top of everything else - the fact Percy fights Kronos before getting the Achilles Curse and actually doesn't die within seconds is... Astounding. He kicks him in the chest! And yeah Kronos is weaker and still adjusting to Luke's body, but Percy is having trouble fighting Luke cause they used to be friends - Percy breaks Kronos' time magic!! Like?! Boy is POWERFUL.
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- OUCH - honestly Luke, Thalia and Annabeth's family breaking the way it did... Don't talk to me. Poor Annabeth, Luke betrayed them, Thalia joined the Hunters because of Luke's betrayal so she's pretty much AWOL all the time and then Luke dies. Like Rick wtf, my heart can't take it? -Percy and Tyson having each others backs when talking to Poseidon in the underwater palace is the brother-brother relationship we love to see - Percy trying to stick a sand dollar in the vending machines at school 🤦🏻‍♀🤦🏻‍♀ - the whole underwater interaction at Poseidon's palace? Perfection. Awkward family drama and all - Connor falling out of the tree when he sees Percy because he's so excited 😂😂
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- k, ik Clarisse isn't perfect but tbh if i was a child of Ares whose father was disrespected and hated by my fellow campers (ares deserves it but still) and that disrespect trickled down to how the other campers treated ME (which if Percy is reliable here, it obviously does) then i would also be irritated at being used for muscle and nothing else? And just expected to fight with the people who act as if they'd rather not have Ares kids around the rest of the time. Like Clarisse isn't totally wrong - Percy reading the prophecy, seeing he's meant to die and just being like 'i do not see it' and refusing to outright think about it makes me so sad for him - (but it taints every action after and he's super reckless afterwards bc of it- including finally breaking and accepting the Achilles Curse) - (also him taking this as the last straw and finally beginning to show Annabeth how he really feels, cause fuck it, he's dying anyway) - Give me more info about Rachel's backstory and family Rick!! -  how did i forget Percy willingly eats chocolates that taste like cardboard because 'i didnt have anything against cardboard' like sir? Ik Silena didn't want them but still? - 'she'd always been cute, but she was starting to be seriously beautiful' STOP, MY HEART CAN'T TAKE IT - Percy staring at Annabeth and forgetting what they're talking about cause hes so distracted 👌🏻
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- hmm yeah... For some strange reason.... - i forgot how Percy totally bombs this convo bw them and now want to cry 😭 Annabeth is trying to talk about what's important and Percy, you sweet oblivious man, you're shooting her down without even realizing - love that they're both on the same wavelength tho. Percy two lines before, hmm it's cool to date ppl from other cabins, wonder why im thinking that around Annabeth, my best friend in the world, and then Annabeth a beat later, hmm, let me bring up Silena and Beckendorf and how it's important to be with the people you love when you have the chance, no way Percy will miss this huge hint right? - they're the best - k i honestly forgot Percy full on physically intimidates Leneus like that - luke telling his mom if he ran away the monsters wouldnt get her..i can just imagine luke crying when he says good bye before running away because he thinks it's his fault his mom is like that and he cant take care of and protect her anymore because it's too hard - uh oh now i have angsty pre-lightning thief luke fic inspo... Him, Thalia and Annabeth on the run... The ANGST -  Rick holds absolutely nothing back in this book and i am in pain - HESTIA!! 💖💖🥰 - actual loml - i love that Rick titled this book after her and that he wrote such a great series about the importance of family (biological, found or otherwise) and home, and that he said actually Hestia is the most important bc shes the most humble and keeps the peace and knows when to fight and when to yield and you protect what you love, which is your home - i just... Adore Hestia - Grover! Missed you babes - Hades is so so horrible to Nico, always comparing him to Bianca :/ - but i do love Hades, Persephone and Demeter together they make me laugh - oh god the River Styx - Achilles 🥺 - Annabeth being Percy's lifeline is, and continues to be, A Lot™ - 'my name was Percy Jackson. I reached up and took Annabeth's hand.' LOL Why am i crying? - Like the fact there is no Percy without Annabeth, and that remembering her literally reminded him of who he is in his very soul... It's fine im fine - i won't even get into the parallels of her being his lifeline now and then later when Hera takes his memories but leaves the memory of Annabeth for Percy to fight to get back to (anyone who wants to yell about it with me... Feel free to message) - badass Percy is my fav Percy tbh - him defeating Hades?? Like? Hades is arguably the most powerful god, okay - i feel bad for Nico but if i was Percy I'd do the exact same, Nico, sorry man but this is a high stakes time crunch deal and Nico is literally the only hope of persuading Hades and distracted by his own internal stuff - flashbacks to Luke, Thalia and Annabeth hurt, ow - George and Martha are the best - damn i forgot Hermes full on nearly kills Percy here, yikes - Luke stop cockblocking Percabeth challenge
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- i love!! Percy's love for New York!! So much!! - Percy leaving to live in New Rome in HoO is a lie and this is all the proof i need for why - the fact the entire last half of the book is the battle and aftermath... Such great buildup and pacing. All the tricks and twists and battles in this War of Manhattan? I would not take out a thing, Rick, you legend - of course then the final battle in hoo with the gods is what? Two pages? Ugh, don’t talk to me about my hatred for BoO and HoO - 'no detours you two' is still the cutest thing!!! - THE HUNTERS!! Thalia i missed you - good job Percy, you finally spent your sand dollar - Minotaur!! - 'dont i get a kiss for luck? Its kind of a tradition right?' Percy finds out he's gonna die and is out of fucks to give and honestly I support him - also Michael just standing beside these two while they're flirting like umm 👀 👀 while a monster army marches towards them, nbd - Annabeth taking Ethan's knife meant for Percy!!! Cause she just knows his weak spot without him even telling her! They literally invented love - Feral Percy is so scary omg, i love how well Rick incorporates the Achilles Curse in this novel, with the whole heightened weaknesses and stuff ans the parallels to Achilles arrogance being what killed him and Percy's loyalty, fierceness and protective instinct being his own heightened weakness - the fact that Percy is the one who inadvertantly kills Michael Yew tho, I'll never recover from that - the fact Hades offers Maria di Angelo a golden palace by the Styx like how Poseidon offers Sally a palace under the sea tho. Let's talk about that parallel - the entire talk with Prometheus is so so good - not me picturing young Luke hiding in the closet to get away from his mom when she has an 'episode' -i love callbacks in stories and all of the callbacks to the rest of the series in this book make me very happy (medusa, minotaur, the underworld, Rainbow!! My baby!!, Daedalus and more) - Percy summoning a wholeass hurricane against Hyperion - the Party Ponies! They're so chaotic, i love it - Dionysus! 😁 I can't help it, i love him - Percy absolutely losing it when he sees Sally and Paul asleep in the car 🥺 - Rachel telling Percy he's not the hero screws with him so much :( poor bb - although i really really love how Rick wrote this, it's so refreshing to not have one chosen one save the world, but a combination of people - the drakon, Silena and Clarisse make me cry - the Patrochilles references, im not okay - Annabeth giving up on Luke after hearing what he did to Silena and Percy telling her that doesn't make him happy 😭 that whole interaction makes my heart ache - Percy giving Hestia Pandora's pithos 🥺 - and Hades, Nico and the others coming for a final attack is so badass, i love it - listen im glad the og trio were the ones to confront Luke on Olympus but the fact Thalia got so close and then pinned by a statue of HERA makes me so sad. Ik her and Luke were finished and she coped by cutting him off completely and giving up all hope but i would pay money to know what they would have said to each other to say goodbye - Ethan 🥺 - Poseidon joining the fight against Typhon is so cool, such a great scene - 'PEANUT BUTTER!' - Annabeth you brilliant badass you - RIP Luke, you werent great but you werent the worst either - the gods just rolling up seconds too late, wondering wtf happened in Olympus and who the dead body is - the chapter where the Olympians meet and give out rewards is one of my absolute favourites (again i am incensed we didn't get anything like this in HoO) - will Percy turning down immortality ever not make me scream in glee? No? Alright then - Annabeth being relieved like Percy was relieved at the end of Titan's Curse tho - oh Hermes :/ - its so hard reading all this and knowing what comes in HoO... Like it's such a cathartic, earned and mostly happy and peaceful ending and then HoO comes along and undermines it all - aww Rick let Paul see Olympus somehow pls, he deserves it, he killed a dracanae - (i would also love to see it) - Percy being more upset Rachel took his pegasus than her going to Camp and possibly dying, lol, priorities dude - i honestly think that Rick had other ideas for the second Great Prophecy and how things would go down in BoO, cause the prophecy like... Barely applies to BoO, Doors of Death are in book four, and explabations of it is all so unclear when Rick is usually pretty good with that stuff - PERCABETH - lol Percy complaining about privacy when he and Annabeth are caught kissing literally in the middle of the very open and public dining pavilion, okay - BEST UNDERWATER KISS OF ALL TIME - that's it and im a glass case of emotion - very happy to say that this series remains my favourite of all time 💖
 If anyone ever wants to come gush about anything Riordanverse related feel free, because as you can see I have a lot of thoughts about it all
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nessaiscute · 7 years
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you wanna know what? I’m gonna go all out here.
I’ve stated time and time again that I think Caleo is one of the more healthy percy jackson ships. and i think I’m gonna state why. So lets go into one of the most popular ships in pjo : Solangelo. I’m gonna state several points as to why Caleo is a lot healthier then Solangelo.
Okay. I’ll be the first to admit that Solangelo has some pretty cute moments. But can i state how..... unhealthy this ship has the potential of having? Did Nico really need a ship to be happy? Now i know this will get me a lot of shit so allow me to explain a huge difference between Leo and Nico. Leo wants to have a girlfriend. This isn’t something he has to have. Leo isn’t summoning demoic halfbloods like Theseus or is he getting other half bloods killed by working with Minos. Leo isn’t going this far to be accepted into his friends. He would easily be happy  being with friends. 
Nico..... can’t really claim this. at all.
In order for Percy to notice him Nico will do almost anything. Like every single thing Nico did in the first series was just to get Percy to notice him. Gods bby i love you but this isn’t healthy. Please love yourself before you start seeking something like this.
Also, am i the only one that feels Nico needs to atone more for what he did in bol? Like, sorry Rick. I’m not going to forgive him for getting people killed. People died cause of Nico. Does this not bother him? Leo is always being weighed down by the fact that hes the 7th wheel for reasons he can’t really help. Its not his fault that everyone besides Calypso doesn't find him attractive. Like.... how is that Leo’s  fault?? Also, its not Leo’s fault he crushes easily. and even for all of Leo’s easiness to crush he can’t really compete with how desperate Nico is to find love.
On to ship moments. The whole ‘doctor’s note’ thing. Okay, soooo Nico gets to break the rules of the camp but.... Ella can’t?? Ella would need this shit a hell of a lot more then bloody Nico does. and what the heck makes Nico so speical? Also, this is a violation of Ethics on Will’s part. Will can’t be putting his boyfriend above everyone else. Nico has to follow the rules of camp like everyone else. Again, I’ll go back to Ella. What happens when she has an anxiety attack  in the middle of the night. Is she not allowed to get Tyson when she needs him or would that be ‘breaking the camps rules’ Would Ella get yelled at by Chorin or Mr. D? Do you see where I’m getting with this?
The ‘You’re staring’ moment. I have a lot of strong anti feelings bout this scene. am i the only one who feels really bad for Pablo? Like. Nico flat out hates him simply cause Will might be attracted to him. Also, doesn't this remind us of something simmilar? Like.... a straight pairing that did this? Like... .Percabeth vs Perachel?? Remember how everyone hated that? How Annabeth is a ‘bitch’ or Rachel is a ‘fan girl’ and gods do we not recall all the Rachel hate? What do you think the Solangelo’s are gonna do to Pablo? and How frightening must it be to know that the child of death hates your guts cause of his boyfriend? You all were shitting on Annabeth for being prissy at Rachel so get pissed at Nico for doing the same. If you’re gonna call Percabeth unhealthy cause of ‘jealous issues’ then So is Solangelo.
Now that Im done analyzing the shit out of Solangelo lets compare it to Caleo.
Leo as i said just wants to find someone who makes you happy. And when he meets Calypso he is deeply annoyed. Just as much as she is. he dosen’t know what he did to piss her off and at this point he’s sick of girls treating him like shit. Of course you all would call this ‘random’ allow me to get it though your skulls:  DEVELOPMENT YOU DON’T LIKE IS NOT RANDOM. JUST CAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE THE WAY SOMETHING GOES DOSEN’T MAKE IT RANDOM. GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES  And this is my biggest annoyance. you can’t stop shouting random over and over. If you would just read the books without your ‘the only one who can’t find love is leo’ goggles. You would realize that this ship is very beautiful and before you cry ‘two weeks of knowing each other’ Nico and will know each other for two days? YOUR POINT???????! but back to the matter at hand; Calypso and Leo fight cause they are annoyed with each other. But they try different things to get Leo off the island but nothing works. and after each attempt they learn different stuff bout each other and Calypso starts to grow feelings for him. Its slow and steady. *cough* unlike Solangelo. *cough*   Leo really wants to save her. Its not bout him anymore. he could care less if Calypso dosen’t like him. He dosen’t think its fair for Calypso to be trapped here. No, Leo isn’t a ‘fuck boy’ Leo loves Calypso to the point where he will do anything to save her.
The lost Trio. Okay, if you don’t know me in real life you probally don’t know how much I HATE the team 7/ Lost Trio type of bond. there is nothing i hate more then the three way bromance that is two people in love with the other one having to suffer. I hate Sakura cause of this in Naruto and I certinally don;t like jason and Piper for doing this to Leo. when i actually like leo but i can’t stand Naruto. its not bloody fair. Why does Jason and Piper get to be in love but Leo can’t? I mean, you all think Jason is just as much of a fuck boy for ‘hurting reyna’ right? Stop being hypocrites. Its no wonder leo wants love. Jason and Piper can’t stop making out with each other?? and yet Leo is suppose to not be bothered by this? Leo isn’t suppose to want to know what this is like?? Sorry tumblr but once again you aren’t being fair. You aren’t looking at this logistically you can’t put down your ‘leo is a fuck boy’ goggles to debate this rationally. its no wonder he picked Calypso. The lost trio didn’t love Leo. Let me say this again: Jason and Piper didn’t love Leo Valdez   
Hmm am i missing anything else? I Think i covered all i wanted to. Well, thats all for now
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