I am here for your takes on Dani. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought her x Jon smelled of hot garbage. Like at best she was meh, and then when the two of them met I was just like "oh no....you're an entitled bitch". And now that its been years since I last consumed GoT, my thoughts have fermented into "oh no, she really is a conqueror" "oh no, everyone loves her because 'pretty badass lady'" "oh no i'm the fandom minority again". Anyway, where was I. She and Jon had no chemistry. The end.
The *only* way putting them in a romance even makes sense in concept is when you realize Benioff and Weiss gave Jon the Young Griff arc. It's why they gave him a Targ name, beacuse if they call him "aegon" then they can fufill that part of the books without ever having to establish Young Griff as his own character. He is the supposed son of Rhaegar Targaryean and Elia Martell, he goes to Westeros with intentions of using his better claim to take the throne and intends initially on marrying Dany, and it's theorized heavily that Dany will see his claim as a threat and the Burning of Kings Landing will come down to Aegon against Dany.
Jon Snow has nothing to do with that. He is a moral opposite to Dany as a charecter, and we've seen him time and time again be at strong odds against people with her morals. But by giving him the Young Griff arc, it means putting him into the romance spot when it makes no sense for him.
Hey I put a read more beacuse I cannot shut the fuck up about how this relationship is just rape and abuse but beacuse Jon's a man we think he wants it.
All of season 7 Jon is so out of place because he doesn't belong anywhere near Dany's Iron Throne plot, and he's being forced to interact romantically with a charecter that clearly he does not like as a person and is uncomfortable with.
But, Dany is the sacred cow of the GoT/asoiaf fandom. You love her and if you critizize her for villanious actions or morals then you are using bad faith towards her. While I personally don't like her, I don't mind other people liking her but I despise that her stans all refuse to allow any conversation about her being a morally bad person. A person who enjoys cruelty and death, enjoys creating fear and is smug when she can control others. That is not a person Jon would love, let alone even respect.
Their entire relationship wreaks of abuse, of Jon being forced into this and knows he cannot leave it without risking his and his families lives. Remember when Tyrion gave a very small level critisism of her actions and she angrily accused him of treason and siding with his family instead of her? Well what do people think would she have done, if her attraction to Jon was refused? Someone who she took all the defenses away from, all the power from, and could have killed at any moment (dont make an ygritte comparison mimi dont make an yrgitte comparison this is a different anti jon x fandom female fave charecter post).
I don't care how the show frames it, or what the intent was. What we got on screen, was Jon Snow being held prisoner to an immoral, cruel, military conquerer. And when that woman was attracted to him, she essentially forced herself into his life and gave him all but no choice. The Jon bending the knee scene and..the uh...boat...scene...later...uhhh....anyways, those to me feel so out of charecter. You cannot convince me Jon did any of this willingly. He is clearly trapped in this situation and cannot leave and is only with her beacuse she is violent and bloodthrirsty. But beacause Jon is a strong, capable man, it's not talked about as if he's the victim and that is insane to me. (Oh my good god the ygritte comparisons are almost laughable send help).
I don't consider a lot past season 5 to be canon, but if I am forced too, then I refuse to accept Jon was a willing participant in that relationship.
Jon's parentage reveal will always be about the revelations of his mother, and the understanding and acceptance of WHY Ned raised him the way he did. And how it was both his parents, his mother and his adopted father who loved him and kept him safe. The very fact that Young Griff's entire story is based around whether or not he truly is Rhaegar's son as opposed to that being a twist reveal is beacuse HE is the charecter whose Targaryean links is the important one. Jon's story is about him as Stark, and is always shown to be the moral opposite of Dany.
Their relationship in the best senario is not canon, but if it has to be, then there is no world in which Jon is there of his own free will. He is being forced into this relationship against his will. But considering his other love interest was another charecter who essentially forced him into a relationship against his will, and we were supposed to root for that tells me all I need to know.
Dany is a sacred cow charecter, and her stans are unreasonable in defending her. When you can like a charecter and critize them for their actions. Ned Stark was an idiot for ever trusting Petyr Baelish, Catelyn Stark's spiteful attitude and neglect of Jon Snow is was abusive behavior, Theon Greyjoy was a moron who ruined his own life for a father who long since abandonded him. Bam all charecters I love and there are some major flaws that I refuse to defend them for but thats also what makes them good charecters. Their flaws arent writing flaws, they are personal flaws for them as people.
Dany is not allowed to have personal flaws she is always to be justified even with incredibly bad faith defenses, but when she is flawed it's the writings fault not hers. Dany is a cruel, sadistic, controlling, military tyrant who enjoys watching her subjects fear her and her dragons. And she forced Jon Snow into a relationship with her beacuse otherwise then he is against her and we already knew she has no use for people who dont support her to be alive.
Jon Snow deserved better then to have both his love interests be domineering, controlling, abusive women who forced him into a romantic and sexual relationship.
Also, I mean, incest being normal is only a learned trait from Targaryens supporting their own blood purity. Jon was not raised to think incest is normal. Dany thinks its normal beacuse she and Viserys both were raised to think that, and Young Griff thinks marrying Dany is normal beacuse he too was raised with the mentality that Rhaegar would've been raised with. Jon finding out Dany was his aunt would've had Jon looking right at Sam and just
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Can I just say, y'all can miss me with all that
Jet = Introvert
Maddox = Extrovert
Like y'all homegirl's friendly but avoids people and feels like they cursed her whole bloodline. Jet seeks out people, actively once he gets over his whole ' camp sucks, theater suck, life sucks ' attitude. Even if he's not talking he still hangs around them in the group where Maddox consistently separates herself. Jet only leaves in response to tension with his sister.
Episode 1 - Admittedly where the first impressions happen.
Jet: arrives at camp, and immediately goes to the cabin where he interacts with roommates. Hangs out with other people nearby. Stands by the crowd despite knowing he doesn't care about the events of the summer, and not being required to (assuming Val is absent as a choice rather than a flight delay)
Maddox: does her specific duties and sets up stage. Takes a letter to the office instead of showing Ashlyn where it is. Songs the welcome song and then goes off stage to work tech then stand alone, not rejoining the crowd. Goes to the office for unknown amount of time.
Episode 2: ( the whole episode has everyone in an environment where Maddox is, whom Jet is pointedly avoiding )
Jet: avoids camp activities and leaves once he does show because Maddox is there and it's awkward. Notices that 'Maddie's new friends' immediately flock to talk to him and leaves.
Maddox: wakes up early and leaves to get the bugle to play the wake up call, helps set up, but is alone on the sides for every exercise. Preps hair/makeup alone, resists help, stands off by the curtains until arguments start and then jumps in to save EJ. Returns to standing off to the side and behind the group when Jet shows up. Leaves after dinner to the woods to set up newbie night, spends long enough out there to worry Gina.
Episode 3:
Jet: goes to the spot in the woods he knows Maddox frequents and finds Ricky. Immediately spills all his business with his struggle with his parents and his music burn-out. Talks about his home life and medication changes, his grades, ect. Spends the night suddenly being personable and cheery with this total stranger he found at the shrine. Sees that he upset his sister and goes after her.
Maddox: wakes up early and checks cameras from her office, sets up the tent kits, calls Carlos out on his shit and then goes off alone. Briefly flirts with ashlyn then leaves when she is gloriously shot down. Infodumps about the forest and completely missed Kourtney's objections sets up her tent, presumably alone, as she has to be able to leave to scare campers. Starts to fill her role as the storyteller but gets insecure and leaves to the corner of the woods that only she and Jet can consistently find.
Episode 4:
Jet: (absent due to aforementioned Maddie hates me complex) when he does come back it is immediately to the crowded movie room rather than his cabin.
Maddox: panic over missing brother. Sits apart from everyone and thinks intently, due to missing brother. Learns he went home and is not lost in the woods. Goes to build sets and let the campers paint them. Notices Ashlyn and instantly tries to redirect. Spends roughly 30 secs before realizing she said literally anything about her personal life and leaves. Meets up with Ash at the movie, but does not move to follow her to the seats, staying by herself on the wall. Asks EJ if he's fine briefly, but then continues alone to wherever. I assume her spot in the woods.
Episode 5:
Jet: actively participates in the morning meeting, does his part in the exercises. Opens up about his issues with Maddox to Ricky. Goes off to sing the best song.
Maddox: is silent at the meeting until she performs obligatory mlm/wlw hostility to Carlos. Awkwardly attempts to look bad at her job and more emotional than she is. Reveals exactly #1 fact about her (she owns a dog, who is not dead). Stands off to the side and frequently walks off. Accidentally reveals #1 more fact and God forbid a single minute full of inner thoughts and then tears out of the barn like a bat out of hell. Goes to the barn that she thinks is empty ( I hc to get the things she left in there earlier so she can then run away and go home, but stops when she hears Jet)
Episode 6:
Jet: makes a point to be a part of the action. Tell Ricky why Maddie is so pissed at him. Give more insight to their homelife. Cheers on Kourtney when Maddox has wandered off or something. Goes back to the cabin with Ricky in it and harasses him briefly.
Maddox: tudors Gina in camp. Gina straight up asks her to open up the response is 'brothers, amiright?'. does some of the events but also just kind of disappears from some of them. Brief return of the flirty Maddie with Gina during it's on. Instantly exits the crowd once they won and stands by herself.
Episode 7:
Jet: joins Ricky's birthday snack fest. Goes to the Honeycomb to talk to Maddie. Goes off to find Ricky and the others once he gets sort of called on inviting the ex to the dance. Stands up and sings before joining the boys with the post prom traditions.
Maddox: gets up early enough to be fully dressed when the others are still getting ready. Talks to Jet then Madison alone for most of the night. Enters the dance for the final song. Tells the barest explanation for their issues. Goes to the cabin that she thinks is empty to be alone. Stands apart from the other two while supporting Kourt. Gives close friend EJ a half-assed shrug answer to her relationship with Madison.
Episode 8:
Jet: has full integrated with the wildcats at this point.
Maddox: also mostly included, but tends to hover to the side or to stand by one person. Goes to leave with EJ before Corbin sings. Waits for everyone else before signing the wall. Does not join the curtain call. ( My school always had the cast feature the crew once ensemble takes a bow )
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Kindred spirits appear when you least expect them (geddit?).
Normally it wouldn't be a massive deal hating something popular, bc inevitably, everyone's gonna hate something popular at some point in their lives. But what do you do when you hate Me Before You and LOVE Sam Claflin, what do you do then? What do you do, when you see an article about him and get that dreaded feeling in your stomach as you click to open it, bc you know that film will be mentioned? (I want to hug every journalist who doesn't bring it up. Nicely done work, Men's Health.) What do you do when you see all the comments from people who love that film saying how much they cried? (Why? WHY???? What is there to cry about? How easily impressed people are by a cheap tearjerker?) What do you do when that film is sold as the best thing in romance, a True Love (how?), a "doomed love story" (how????? Romeo and Juliet is a doomed love story, not this trash). What do you do when you know there are much, much better, more quality films with Sam to watch, with better developed female characters AND love interests--but everyone ignores them? What do you do?
Will: You're the only thing that makes me wake up in the morning.
Also Will: kills himself.
How truly inspirational! /s
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